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>What is /asp/?
/asp/ is a thread for Vtubers to give and receive advice related to Vtubing.

>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
Most people would recommend against streaming on YouTube if you don't have an established subscriber base from making videos.

>Is there an audience for X?
Would you watch someone do X?
Is someone already doing X?

>What video editor should I use for editing clips?
DaVinci Resolve, Kdenlive, & CapCut if you don't feel like spending money or pirating, otherwise use Vegas Pro or Premiere.

>I have a question, is it okay to ask? Will I get real feedback?
Ask away! If no one responds, try asking again at a later time.

Open company auditions:
Hololive (Open indefinitely): https://audition.hololivepro.com/en
Niji (Open indefinitely): https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1780415989332816307

Useful links:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
Op-Sec: https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166
Common Trolling techniques in /here/: https://pastebin.com/24DaTTvm
List with most /here/ aspies https://rentry.co/asplist

Previous Thread >>90108496
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>>90153799
Omo is gonna get called out for being friends with Gumpai one day
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>>90154171
list of gumpai-adjacent vtubers?
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>The one drama vtuber I follow is going all in on gump

Even though gump is openly anti-self posting on /vt/, I'd suggest everyone avoid being openly /here/ for at least a day or two
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How do you start a stream catered to female viewers if you know for a fact all your early viewers are going to be male?
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>>90154171
Gumpai is getting her karma today, and Omo will too someday.
I can't wait.
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>>90154429
Can you at least say which dramatuber?
Is it Rev? I wanna check if I show up and be ready to do damage control for associating with her.
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>>90154486
It's probably VtuberCringe
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>>90154429
500 on nothing ever happens please.
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>>90154486
Mizutamari/under the tea
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>Gets community noted
>>90154437
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>>90154593
Ew, gross. Genuinely kys
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>>90154593
>a literal nobody
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>>90154715
Eh, he's a friend of a friend what can I say
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>>90154812
Skab, you should probably stop hanging around Gumpai's kick chat.
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>>90154812
Mizu just comes across as a run of the mill male vtuber sexpest. Never liked that homo
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>gumpai is the main character of independent vtubing for the day
>AGAIN
truly our most powerful retard. this is why I kinda love her
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Elfin is attacking her too
https://x.com/elfinpsyop/status/1860759182644838490

Pippa, Kiki and now Elfin.
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I love you F
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>>90155045
seeing all the most annoying vtubers in the world come out against her really puts things into perspective
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>>90155177
case in point
>>90155159
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>>90155177
The only edgy vtuber that has supported Gumpai is Pafu, who is a nobody compared to the other girls.
Even denpa has shat on Gumpai.
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>>90155309
real retardation recognize real retardation
(positive, not derogatory)
(love ya pafu)
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>>90155045
I knew this retard was going to blow up someday but didn't forsee how. This is all really entertaining. Love you gumps.
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>>90155177
It's free clout. Shit on bad person while topic is popular and get more eyes on you.
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what is the uwumerch though? they have a chance to do the funniest thing and drop her
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Making merch for someone without asking is weird though im not sure i get why people are shitting on her
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>>90155471
it was a commission
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why did he even have extras of a hand made plush?
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CHADnia -chan, eliminate these whores attacking our queen
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This gump bitch acts way too unhinged for someone with a father in her life
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>>90153799
Throw it out here to aspies
I want to get some more experience editing clips, and I was thinking of doing a few and letting people use them how they please (upload to twitter, youtube, throw it out, whatever) the clips would generally be like this, subtitles, with a bit of fun editing where I can fit it in, but I just need a clip you think would be funny to showcase like this.
https://litter.catbox.moe/1pzopz.mp4

DM juicenoose on twitter and we can talk it out.
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Behead those who insult gumpai
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I have never wanted to have sex with Gumpai more than I do right now
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>>90156049
Go to Offkai and the deed can be done.
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>>90156049
Save yourself for someone you have mutual passion for, brother.
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I love gumpai and I hope me being in her fanbase doesn't weird her out
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>>90156225
she'll have apologized and pledged to do better by then
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>>90155701
It was probably just extra fabric. You can only buy fabric in so small of quantities, and you would likely need very little of certain colors depending on the design. Since the pattern is already made and the fabric is already bought it would be very easy to just make a few more.
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Gumpai should post a naked dogeza on her X. Not only would her fans love it, it would also make her haters feel bad for bullying a mentally ill girl.
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>>90155714
lol. there are too many. imo anyone who pisses off this many vtubers is doing something very right
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Why am I dead tired with 0 energy on every single one of my days off if I actually sleep the right amount
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gump quadrupling down on her take is so funny to me. everyone is seething like crazy
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hoi hoi my momateys, I am once again live! I came back victorious from japan uu guess who is live once more! uu https://www.twitch.tv/momomovt
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The funniest part of this was Pafu getting threatened with legal action and immediately backing down.
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>>90156866
I'd give pafu some illegal action if you know what I mean hehehe
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Pafu probably has aids
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>>90156902
I want pafu to call me a nigger
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>>90156866
The funniest part was Pafu losing her job, even if it was months ago.
She is always taking L after L.
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>>90156970
That was a bit
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>>90156966
do you want to be pafu's pet black guy
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People switching sides

https://x.com/busujimabibi/status/1860737630335349012
https://x.com/busujimabibi/status/1860108496387342347
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>>90157142
I'm not black. :(
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>>90157055
She did really loose a job
a foot job
done by me
I have sexy feet, send a dm and i'll give you -20% on my feet onlyfan, never touched Pafu's penis so they are virgin
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I will stand by Gumpai no matter how retarded she gets. That's what unconditional, romantic love is.
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Oh literally everyone in the indie vtubers community (and Phase Connect) is coming to support this guy.
https://x.com/LPT_kusa/status/1860691893899919673

Gumpai is gonna be mega blacklisted now.
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>>90155471
They're shitting on her because she tried to cancel some vietnamese basket weaver, who has more clout than her, over like $20 max.
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>>90157207
lol...
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The best move is to not reply to anything from this and laugh from the sidelines
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>>90157409
It's going all according to gumkaku. Trust her plan!
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Her model kinda creeps me out ngl
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gay sex with cute boy vtubers
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>>90157581
I liked the angel better it had gap moe with her insanity
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hey can you aspies please stop making me like gumpai more by sperging out on twitter
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>>90157581
I think it fits her. I like it.
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>>90157651
Molesting Haru's chest!
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>>90157728
Gumpai should cry about how she's a teen getting bullied by a 30 year old hag.
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Absurd the reaction she's gotten from such a milquetoast post. From people older than her! Vtubers need to touch grass. Imagine if something actually went wrong in their lives.
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Just noticed her follower count drop by 100
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>>90157974
all phasefag tourists who only followed her for her edgy tweets I assure you
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>>90157728
Based bonni. I love her.
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>>90157974
I saw her go from 14.1 to 13.8
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>>90157728
kinda based bonnie
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Do you guys think gumpai expected it to be the le based and epic redpilled side of vtubers to be the ones going against her? It might be time for her to take the kamalapill.
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>>90158312

I mean even Elfin went against her, kinda says something
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>>90158312
The most extreme right winged racist people are still siding with her and defending her.
The majority of people have abandoned her because she's attacking a literal nice guy in the community, who is beloved by many including the other "edgy" girls.
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>>90157728
nothing more sad than seeing a bunch of 'not gonna make it' tubers scramble for a crumble of clout
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>>90158460
>a literal nice guy
never trust a nice guy
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Why are we turning this into american politics what is wrong with you people
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She seriously has dug herself a grave with the type of fanbase she has, kind of worry about her safety
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>>90158460
I'm talking about people with actual followings, not literal whos who can't affect anything.
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Fuza must have fucked her brains out for her to be this retarded, why would make such a big deal about something so minor? she's burning a lot of bridges for literal pennies
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>>90158556
Worry for the safety of Vietnamese puppetmakers instead
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Gumpai should just tweet that her account and persona was just a social experiment, then delete and start over under a new name somewhere else.
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>>90158556
A lot of chuubas have gun nuts in their crowd and there's patches available for sale too of a few of them, I wouldn't be that worried.
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>>90158602

Just sayin, if it ever gets out that she gets a bf these are the type of people that will feel betrayed
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>>90158568
She has basically gotten herself blacklisted from all relevant vtubers.
The only one that are gonna accept her racist ass is Pafu, Cody, Ineda and all the other problematic NGMIs
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>>90157879
>teen getting bullied by a 30 year old hag
Would it be inaccurate to compare Bonni to Andrew Dobson at this point?
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>>90158371
She should go on a massive racist tirade and suck up some of their fans, preferably not about SEA since those are their primary fans. This is a great opportunity for her.
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>>90158615

Lmao gump is the nikocado of vtubing
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>>90158709
>teen getting bullied
nigga she's 25 hagdom is knocking on her door rn
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>>90158802
You're thinking of Timmy Thicc, the Harvard guy
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Better to live authentically with few friends than to be popular while hiding your true feelings and self. Gumpai is simply performing a mass filtering of the unworthy. This is honestly one of the most based things I've ever seen a vtuber do.
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>>90158580
She just mentally ill and just a shitty person in general. Very little of what she does is thought out, her emotions control everything she does.
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>>90158959
I never understand racist people.
They all seem to say that openly racist people are being authentic and real, and everyone else is fake.
Have you ever thought that some of us are actually not racist?
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By gumpai's own words, I am in a relationship with her.
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Mond was right
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i don't care, i just want to fuck her and omo at the same time
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The moral of the story is: Choose the targets of your callout posts wisely or at least vaguepost for plausible deniability. There's so much value in operating in the shadows, without the flash.
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>>90159031
It's just about not hiding who you are
Those whores pippa, elfin, kikin and nyaru are moralfagging while hiding their true self. It's pathetic.
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>>90159096

pretty much anyone defending her right now has that mentality, they don’t actually care about what she says. It’s pathetic
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>>90159071
do women really get upset when another woman calls herself a girlfailture
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>>90159132
She fucked up because she decided to call out someone that people actually liked.
If this had been someone hated by the fandom, Pippa wouldve been laughing at the Vietnam jokes.
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>>90158959
Nah, not giving a shit that you are hurting the people that have chosen to befriend you and become close to is subhuman tier behavior. This is something that she constantly has done since the start.
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>>90159164
its funny because elfin promotes herself to be right wing and edgy then goes back to slobbing and sucking the hands of phasecucks who feed her. It's all just money
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trying to make a casual outfit for low energy streams but there's no way to make something that looks non-tryhard that isn't boring
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>>90159259
Make/commission a super stylized but lazy png. As long as it isnt used too often people tend to like that kind of thing.
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>>90158959
>>90159164

Honestly… kind of true. If she has a dedicated enough fanbase it could be enough to support her but she’s going to be blacklisted which will just isolate her. Kind of a mixed bag.
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>>90159353
Moral of the story is to hide who you are just a little bit to be different from other girls and then you'll get a collab with Pippa
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>>90159259
https://x.com/Squiiji_3D/status/1858275964469252124
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Someone is using UWO as a reaction pic to tell Gumpai to fuck off
This is very funny in a meta way
https://x.com/terriblefooze/status/1860801362285793494
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>>90159259
On this topic, does anyone have any outfit designers they recommend?
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those plushes really were fucking ugly tho
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>>90159452
This is what happens when you disagree with uwo. Take notes.
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>>90158959
Just be yourself!
>constantly posting insane completely contradictory things for attention
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>>90159418

The only “reward” you really get for being this level of authentic is getting “BASED” in your comments and attracting a bunch of schizos, not really worth it imo.
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>>90159513
uwo won
she came here to attack him and tell him his advice was useless and that she started to grow when she did her own thing
and now look at her
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>>90159487
It's the lack of neck that makes it look strange.
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>>90159432
>fashion
*vomit*
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>>90159580
Uwo won, always has won and always will win. Honestly the only hope gumpai has now is to beg him for a collab. Knowing how nice he is he would give her a second chance without any hesitation.
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Uwo being the most successful /here/ male just goes to prove that the only way to be a successful male vtuber is to not be a vtuber.
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>>90159664
>nice
The hell? All he does is insult people here and tell them to kill themselves
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>>90159664
UWO isnt retarded.
He already saw how Twitter reacted when he made a "punching woman" machine and nobody found it funny.
He is not gonna risk getting blacklisted too.
Gumpai fucked up and she's on her own now.
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Have you people never seen fan merch being sold at cons at artist alleys? Are you gonna pretend that's wrong now and side with her only because it's her?
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>>90156866
The “sticker” wasn’t even on the same paper as the other stickers, this is just Pafu being Pafu and stirring the pot.
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>>90159753
That's actually Omo, who is a literal crab and fuels Gumpai's BPD behavior, which leads to these outbursts.
He is a trash friend.
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>>90159708
It really is funny how that turned out. To be fair, it's not like there are a lot of flesh people that do what he does on twitch, so even if he somehow was able have himself be a AR 3d model or something it's most likely he would've made it.
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>>90159809
You know fan merch receive cease and desists all the time right? Just because you can do something doesn’t make it okay.
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This is why you always silently copystrike
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>>90159536
on the other hand, do you really want the support of people who dogpile like this? it's really obvious everyone is just pissed that the guy she went after has made them a bunch of cheap little shitty toys. Maybe the phasecucks are fine with him using their likenesses, but he was in her discord and didn't even ask her first before trying to sell bootleg merch to her fans.

Doing a single commission is one thing, but he fucked up by not asking first.
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>>90159769
Yeah but the ones against gump now were the ones that defended uwo then
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>>90159967
Nobody defended UWO
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>usually avoid all drama
>one retard attacked a plushie toy maker
what a huge misunderstanding of culture between figurines and plushies, I honestly can't believe what I'm reading.
Knock off figurines are usually regarded extremely poorly in the community because they are often times extremely low quality.
Showing off your knock off is met with mockery and shame.

Plushies on the other hand are seen as endearing, no matter the quality.
Fumos, beans, etc. are all loved and cherished even if they are knock offs because it's not about the quality. It's about looking cute and having a small little toy next to you for comfort.

I can only guess that the tard didn't realize this and attacked someone making off brand plushies thinking that people treat plushies as figurines or collector items. What a fucking moron.
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>>90160002
Ironically, gumpai did.
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This is stupid
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>>90160051
I didn't see that.
Post her tweet.
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>>90159809
companies have guidelines for fan merch so they can shut things down when they can. Gumpai is free to shut down fan merch too since it's her IP and stuff. Not to mention how unofficial merch also competes with official merch which means no money goes to her or her IPs, it's someone profiting off your IP. So Gumpai is right and she's free to deny someone making something off her IP.

However, it's a massive PR backlash if you argue against this, which is what we're seeing right now because it's someone making something for your community.
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>>90160040
This post is nonsense. You're just taking what you think and pretending it's some central governing force. Its not even relevant. This entire debate is nonsense.
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>>90160088
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is it time to unfollow a bunch of aspies...?
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>>90157581
Art should comfort the disturbed etc etc
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>>90160133
>defended
lol, she's just dunking on him when he was getting cooked
this is like if uwo were to reply to her vietnam rant with "gumpai dont be mentally ill"
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>>90160172
Unfollow those who are commenting and saying something, it's unprofessional to get yourself involved in 'drama' like this when it isn't actively harming anyone.
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>>90160051
gumpai will switch from defending someone to attacking them and back again for little to no reason, she's got terminal womanbrain
>>90160094
the issue isn't that she doesn't want the plushies made, the issue is that she clearly went straight to blasting them on twitter instead of DMing them first
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>>90160040
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>>90160279
Who, besides Bonni and Pafu, have said anything?
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>>90159863
Doesn't mean it's not a dick move. It's part of the culture. Video game companies can technically take down nearly every single twitch stream but they don't.
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>>90160231
How is that dunking? She's saying to not do that on main because it will anger twitter, not that it's bad.
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>>90160325
Elfin, Nyaru, haven't seen anyone else from /here/ but lots of unknown 2view women who are very left leaning and only have an issue with the shit she said about the guy
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>>90160340
That's as helpful as someone bumping into a door and someone immediately after going "watch out!".
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>>90160094
All indie vtubers are public domain unless explicitly stated.
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>>90160439
Time to skinwalk as the biggest indie vtubers then.
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>>90160439
Did we all forget what happened to Filian recently, or
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>>90159071
>vtweeter
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>>90159259
Pajama's are always pretty comfy.
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>>90160786
a vtweeter having a bigger CCV than you must be harsh
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>>90155386
yes it's called virtue signaling. these dumb bitches dont know any better
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>>90160935
Mond is a literal 0view
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>>90160935
her retarded ass wont be streaming on twitch ever again for being in korea
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you know you're on the right track when you're filtering the 2view flavrs
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>>90161136
>filter everyone outside of terminally online schizos
"eeeerrrrmmmmm baasssseeed???????"
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At least Gumpai will learn who her friends really are
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>>90161234
Yes. She will be the first chuuba to truly make it on her own.
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>>90161281
this
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Everyone that decided to disassociate from here made the right call. Being tied to /asp/ is just saying you're a massive schizo.
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>>90161234
hate to break this to you, but the majority of the vtubing world is awful. the schizos are the only sane ones in this sphere
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does anyone know what manus people go with to make plushies? maybe like 25-50 plushies in the fumo style. i keep on seeing big indies with plushies but manu sources are gatekept hard as fuck for no reason.
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>>90161281
gumpai cut off 90% of her friends months ago
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>>90158959
>wtf wtf wtf wtf!!!! YOU CANT MAKE HANDMADE ARTS AND CRAFTS OF ME..... YOU JUST CANT OKAY!!!!
What a fucking sperg.

Why would anyone want to be friends with someone like this? God forbid you make fan art. Artists can make commissioned artwork of anyone they choose. That doesn't suddenly change when it becomes a plushie. The keyword here is commission, which it was. Private sale.

>heh if you aren't my friend when I do a really shitty thing and be a horrible awful person then you aren't my real friend!
People who think this way are dumbfucking stupid and is massive cope.
Want more friends? Don't be a piece of shit, but being a female is life on easy mode so they can get away with it and still have simps. If you're a simp for someone like that then you're dogshit yourself, simple as.
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>>90161457
Reality check is they were not friends then.
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>>90161281
So she can block/softblock them for no reason? So she can talk shit about them behind their backs or make tweets about how they are terrible people for who they are? Why the fuck would anyone want to be friends with that?
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>>90161384
Only a schizo would say this out of nowhere.
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>>90161457
Gumpai still DMs me. She told me to keep it a secret but fuck her.
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>>90161495
gayest fucking post I've ever read. I'm going to stuff you head first into a trash can and roll you down a steep hill
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>>90161502
She cut them off because they were females or males and she wanted to appeal to GFE, not because she didn't like them
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Should I use my main chuuba account to blogpost or should I make an alt?
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>>90161502
she literally blocks people and talks shit both behind their back and on main for no reason, she was never their friend
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>>90161590
make an alt. Using your main chuuba account to blogpost only adds drama and makes you look unhinged which stops potential people from talking to you in the long run which hurts collabs and networking.
If you're serious about vtubing, you gotta be professional.
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>follower count down to 13.7k

LOL
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>>90161674
Oh no... Only 13.7k? That's terrible....
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>>90161674
More than you
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>>90159235
>If this had been someone hated by the fandom
Wow, what a highly intelligent thought.
Ever wonder why this person ISNT hated by the community though?
Maybe they are doing something that gets the love and praise rather than hate.
Just a thought.
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>>90161662
So she abandoned her friends for money. NICE. What an upstanding girl she is.
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>>90161674
There's at least 60 aspies still following her.
Including elfin.
Call out post when?
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>>90161696
Most people unfollowing her are fellow vtubers.
She lost the Pippa follow.
She's getting blacklisted.
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>>90161730
Do it yourself schizo.
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>>90161696

that's like 2view numbers bro

>>90161715

I'm a viewer don't really care about follows
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>>90160123
>This post is nonsense
>taking what you think
Or actually being in both communities and seeing how people behave to off brand and knock offs.
You're not as smart as you think you are.
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>>90160094
>Gumpai is free to shut down fan merch too since it's her IP
you're a dumbfuck, that's not how any of that works
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>>90161730
The funny part is that Elfin talked shit to her but didn't unfollow her
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>>90161796
you're talking about the same person who blocked phase people because they used a meme she made. She doesnt care.
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https://x.com/nyudachi/status/1860812748348641516 kek
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>>90161579
Eat shit, although that wouldn't be different than what you do everyday.
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>>90161885
i hate to defend elfin but follows=/=endorsement
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>>90161880
She made her IP, she owns it. She can do what she wants with it. Explain how that works then.
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>>90161666
Even for inconsequential things like game screencaps and gacha rolls?
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>>90161880
nta but that's exactly how that works if it's being sold without permission of the ip holder
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>>90161947

true, plenty of people follow simply to crab
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I love when its "dunking on Gumpai" day on the tl
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>>90161925
you're the one preaching about how to make and maintain friends all while having no friends
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>>90162002
explain people skebbing art of her?
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>>90162000
oh if it's just game screencaps and gacha rolls then it's fine, people who tend to blogpost tend to be very unhinged in them and let out dark thoughts which makes them look bad. Just proceed at your own discretion.
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https://x.com/gumpai_/status/1857214640914305041
What the fuck Gumpai, don't make it worse
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>>90161974
>Explain how that works then.
If you approach me to do a commission for you then I can make your commission. The commission can be art of any IP.
Have you ever heard of something called fan art? No really, look it up, it's going to blow your mind.
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>>90162031
>while having no friends
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>>90162200
she didnt approach him, someone else did. Fanart is technically illegal because the IP holder can say no on their end but nobody really does it because of the PR damage.
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>>90162121
holy shit
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>>90162042
parasites profiteering from non-enforcement
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>>90162267
>Fanart is technically illegal
Thank you for revealing to the thread how much of a dumbass you are.
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>>90162264
sorry but it's obvious from the way you type that no one would ever want to hang out with you
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>>90162121
Gumpai, that's low even by my low standards
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>>90162332
profiteering from fan art is up to the IP holder to decide, there is a distinction
technically if you take commission for a copyrighted character the IP holder can chose to take action against you
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>>90162451
>no one would ever want to hang out with you
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>>90155159
>mega entitled
Says the $30k donothon scammer Elfin. Go and suck your groomer manager AvgBirdEnjoyer's micropenis for some more cash you fake bitch.
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Gumpai is unironically completely in the right here and the fact that the entire vtuber twittersphere will just turn around and snap their jaws like a pitbull on a toddler because she dared to call out someone in the """"community""" is the most grim shit.
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>>90162523
And what legal documentation does Gumpai (or any average indie) have that states they actually own the IP?
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>>90162563
I think that guy's her fan, not a manager. I had to go through him to even talk to Elfin once, he wouldn't let me directly contact her. Wasn't even for a collab
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>>90162332
You're wrong. Look up copyright laws:
17 U.S.C. § 106
17 U.S.C. § 501
17 U.S.C. § 107
>Fan art without permission infringes the rights granted under this section.
>distributing and selling fan content without permission is against copyright law

https://longstrideillustration.com/guidelines-to-legally-sell-fan-art/

Gumpai does not expressedly allow permission for someone else to profit off her copyright and IP, which infringes copyright laws which makes it illegal. She can sue him and win without issues.
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>>90162686
Psd files of the model and a year's worth of stream vods
IP is not copyright.
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Bonni > Gumpai
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16 active people on the thread
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>>90162704
He became her manager because he donated 10k+ to her.
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>>90162574

bruh, she makes like $1.5k in donos on kofi, yet has the audacity to get upset over a plushie creator selling a few extras off a commission, then goes and shills her own merch store and complains that she didn't get anything for free. If she had a problem with the plushie thing she could have simply addressed the creator about it but instead chose the whiny greedy whore approach, not a good look.
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>>90162853
Yeah it's not a good look but she's completely in the right here according to the law. Which is why normal people usually dont argue against anyone making fan stuff for them.
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>>90162523
But they aren't technically profiteering, which is why private sales (aka commissions in this case) are legal and remain legal to this day.

Think it through. Don't let your simpery cloud your judgement.

If I was a factory made paintings of Harry Potter and selling them in a storefront that would be illegal.
However if someone approached someone to make a painting of Harry Potter and paid them $30 then it's legal.
The reason being, is that ultimately the $30 is for labor. Not the product. Hence the word commission.
In this plushie situation, the person paid them $30 bucks, and was MADE a plushie.

Private sales and commissions are very different than public sales, which is what you, and many others, get hung up on. It's also why Nintendo can't legally go after fan artists, which they have tried to do before. There are a ton of DMCAs that get sent out by Nintendo to DeviantArt. All have failed because they have no standing.
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>>90162853
And what does looking good have to do with being right or wrong?
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itt everyone becomes an expert on copyright infringement
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>>90162901
The commissioner got 1 Gumpai doll out of it. The maker wanted to sell the excess of them which would make him a profit. It's no longer a private sale when he's publicly advertising he has extras for sale.
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>>90162279
hi gumpai, post your tits
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>>90162749
Thank you very much for google searching and posting the first result.
I'm sure that took a lot of effort.
But if you continue reading and understanding what a commission actually is, as well as creating fan art, then you would find that it's not illegal.
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>>90161814
You alien bitch dont act like you arent recognizable
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>>90162901
Ok but then he went on to publicly sell the other ones that weren't commissioned
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>>90162958
>It's no longer a private sale
You're getting hung up on the word private. It's not what you think it to be.
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>>90162819
Seems like he used to be a whale for Yuko kek
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>>90162898
>>90162920

Her being in the right legally makes little difference in how huge of an asshat she is, main reason she is getting massively shit on, her PR is complete ass.
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sorry if i unfollowed you, i'll probably unfollow more people from here over the next couple days. i think it's better to just associate with the ones i actively talk to rather than follow each and every one of you.
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>>90163043
>Her being in the right legally
She's not legally in the right.
If you think that fan art is illegal then you absolutely must be trolling.
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>>90163043
Yeah well it's gumpai, regularly bans and blocks everyone here.
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>>90163054
At least say your name
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>>90163054
Now reveal who you are or accept the tag of larper, oomf
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>>90163075
The IP holder is free to deny fanart and stop them if they want to. Which she has expressed said she was against with the making of the plushie. Not to mention how the creator of the plushies is trying to profit off her likeness which is breaking another copyright law. The fact that money changed hands means it's no longer really fan content.
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>>90163043
I do not give a single shit about the law, everything she said is completely correct. The guy is putting up temu-ass plushies of her character on his store without even contacting her. How is THAT not fucked?
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>fwofie unfollowed me
FWHORE
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>>90163229
Get fwucked lol
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>>90163229
For the right reasons it seems.
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>>90163229
Just proving me right, comes, leeches, leaves. Next time you will learn to not associate with grifters.
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I'm a liberal kamala voter and I support gumpai
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>>90163068
i'm horny but that's nothing new
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>>90163229
Did you post about the drama?
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>>90163423
This better be about the detractors
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>>90155915
i like how you did the goblin thing there hope you find someone whos willing to let you practice
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>>90163229
>>90163356
She still follows me, losers
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>>90163365
dawg go jork it, i promise itll cure what ails you (lie maybe)
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if only flandzen manned up and fucked the menhera out of her this wouldn't have happened

but no, he is afraid of even talking to her
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>>90163574
It's better to vaguepost than to dm her incriminating shit she can use to cancel him later
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>>90163574
I guess Fuza's dick was weak
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Gumpai, pafu, cody and shania will spearhead the the new golden age of vtubers.
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>I'm agreeing with bvtm for once because of this drama
What has the world come to?
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Pro/anti gumpai tier-list dokko
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>>90164180
I will now defend gumpai to my death
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I love evil women so much bros
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https://x.com/RebornCraneVT/status/1860825876784431384
what the fuck are you doing?
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Gunplan, thank you fo having softblocked me before dawg, I dont need to partake in this retarded discussion now
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>>90164490
I think he's trying to get clout off the situation somehow
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>>90164180
>siding with a literal SEAmonkey containment breacher
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glorpo > gumpai
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Enough about Gumpai, we got L4D2 going!
https://youtu.be/CHRk530A8qc
CAPTCHA: D0XTV
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>>90164490
>>90164525
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>>90164586
are these 3 just a polyamorous trio now why are they collabbing every single stream
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>>90164637
they don't have any other vtuber friends anymore because they surrounded themselves with snakes
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>>90164637
>He can't get in the Pafu Polycule
laugh at this nigga
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>>90164722
no one wants to be friends with actual mentally deranged characters
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>>90164766
AAAAA I NEED THE TOXIC NOXIOUS PUSS
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>>90164586
horrendous trio
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>>90164586
finally some kino
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What if Valorant was anime? And because you're an 2d anime girl, you can simply turn sideways to avoid bullets??? These questions and more will be answered THIS stream!
https://www.twitch.tv/SlushyWater52
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>>90164836
agreed, pafu on her own is tolerable but please these faggots are so draining
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>>90164548
but enough about gumpai
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>>90162574
She is legally in the right. Culturally, she's retarded. Fan art and fan products is a HUGE part of the sphere because artists are ingrained in the space.

Legally it's right to shut down a child's lemonade stand, doesn't make it not a dick move
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>>90163548
i need a cute boy to jerk me off
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>>90165036
uhhhh gumpai is an honorary aryan or something
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>>90164771
>no one wants to be friends with actual mentally deranged characters
maybe you're right
maybe you're fucking right
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>>90165070
>Legally it's right to shut down a child's lemonade stand
Oh you're one of THOSE commie freaks that celebrate that on Twitter. Good to know.
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>>90165288
>THE VIET FAGGOT IS A LITERAL HECKIN CHILDERINO
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>>90165288
>ignoring the part where they say its a dick move
ok
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>>90165288
Reading comprehension
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>>90165146
shut the fuck up flandzen, you ask for friends but you push everyone away
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i bought bananas today bros
im finally gonna start replacing chips with produce
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i wish someone would vaguepost about me for once
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Fuck mond. She's a cunt.
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>>89397550
how's the recount going?
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>>90165776
I sometimes miss when my vagueposter wasn't horny and was cute
still love them because their post helped me greatly when I was feeling incredibly down
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I was wondering what to end up doing with this vtuber design, I got stuck on the torso and hair
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>>90165857
I want to fuck the menhera out of Mond and make her a mommy
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Please don't come back, zombie girl.
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>>90165981
Hint?
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>>90166005
Wow ANOTHER fish girl vtuber HOW ORIGINAL
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>>90166089
Same. I'm also black.
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>>90165075
Post it and we'll see what I can do.
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>>90166005
For hair: Big ol' squid/octopus head. Short "hair" but it's frills like thin fins. Two "horns" like you have around your jaw but like goat or demon horns.
You have options.
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>>90166123
at moments like this I regret becoming a vtuber
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>>90166107
I LOVE POPPY! I LOVE POPPY! I WANT TO FUCK HER FOREVER!
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>>90165691
did you know that banana crisps exist. They tawte pretty good
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>>90166005
well, try going with what you have and then figuring out changes later on. This is vtubing so you're free to change and improve things over time.
Usually people dont reach their perfect designs on the start and improve over time through feedback and their own thoughts through streaming over time.
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>>90166405
This is cringe shit. I hate each and every last one of you who came into this hobby to try to date.
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>>90166628
i want to date you
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>>90166580
If I've learned anything about food it's that anything that tastes good and is satisfying to eat is bad for you so whatever they do to them probably removes every vitamin and mineral along with all the fiber leaving only the sugar and adding a bunch of fat
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>>90166717
You'll regret it like everyone else who's said this to me.
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>>90166628
I didn't come into this hobby to date, but I found someone who I would like to date.
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I want to make people want to date me.
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>>90166878
Iriya...
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>>90163054
You should just follow those you vibe with or whose content you genuinely enjoy, no need to follow me just to support everyone here.
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>>90166628
I didn't come here to date anyone, I was just really happy that I made someone laugh happily
Back then I was going through a really rough patch and that post made my day not because of the cringe but because I made someone happy just by chatting with them and keeping them entertained
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>>90166780
We'll see. a/s/l?
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>>90166878
Make BFE, worked for Iriya

He does have fucking psychotic fans though
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>>90165146
Admit to copying other people's art much
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how do i bfe
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>>90167531
this but unironically
do I have to make asmr joi audios
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>>90167531
read woman-oriented fanfics and copy the scenarios
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>>90163054
I unfollowed you back because I obsessively check my follows. Nothing personnell
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>>90167531
If you need to ask you are already fucked
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>>90163054
I still like you even if I also unfollowed you back. I wish you would have given me the courtesy of a soft block but its whatever I'm not too sore over it.
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fuck you
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>>90167531
its so funny to me when ppl ask this like how helpless and stupid can u be? be the type of guy that can figure it the fuck out thats part of it
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>>90167658
>>90167709
yeah it's nothing personal. sorry, I felt like a soft block would be worse since you wouldn't find out til later and then question why. i have most of you saved on a list of people from here and so I still see your stuff, im just worried about the potential backlash from being associated with stuff that happens here. none of you have been rude to me and I'd like to think im amicable with everyone ive interacted with.
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Why did she betray us
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My only vaguepost. I wish he had kept pursuing me, I was warming up to the idea slowly. My world feels cold and alone again.
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>>90168324
BETRAYED AND TRAPPED
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>>90168347
mond...
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>>90168245
yeah imo a soft block is worse, and I appreciate you mentioning it in the thread to save everyone the schizo "DO THEY HATE ME?" moment. can't blame you for disassociating. good luck!
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>>90168347
fwofie...
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>>90167531
There is nothing less BFE than needing help by men who know what they're doing to teach you how to be attractive to women
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>>90168347
haru...
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>>90168347
Rura...
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Awesome. All the /asp/ie schizos I hate are beefing with each other on a public battle royale as successful corpos and indies shit all over them and blacklist them like they deserve.
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>>90168519
It's this kind of societal attitude that turns men into incel school shooters who never talk to anyone
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>>90168527
Probably this one since he was alone in the dark with time to reflect.
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All I can find by searching bfe vtuber is people making fun of bfe vtubers or bad parodies by bioholes so I can only conclude that to attempt to seriously bfe is to have everybody see you as a complete joke.
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>>90168405
fwiw if this is you or if you're the other one, im the bagel date poster too :) it was fun banter
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any predictions on gump's next move?
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>>90166405
... I'm so sorry for having said anything, I was, and still am, a mess in far too many ways, I ended up being overly needy for someone who might have not loved me like I wanted them and I never even said who I was for you to approach me. A friend already told me that I needed to stop some time ago if I wasn't even going to DM you, and later on one of your friends also told me the same.
I didn't know I hurt you so much, and I beg you to try and forgive me, I wanted so much to get to know you better, but it seems you are finally taken and somebody can give you the love that you always deserved. I never intended to make you feel bad, and different people already made me realize how much of a bitch I was being on you for never taking the steps I should have or letting you properly take them towards me. I will one day be better and more courageous, but right now I don't deserve to make you feel any worse, my cute lizard...
As for the vagueposts, my last one was in relation to getting closer to you through some of the things you were a guest in, but I also was told that it would had been a horrible idea because I would have ruined the mood for everyone else and probably made you feel uncomfortable knowing how weird I get when it comes to these things...
I can't properly tell you how sorry I'm for having ever said anything... I wish you a great day, I hope you and her are truly happy, I know I couldn't have given you any of that.
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>>90168800
I'm not reading that.
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>>90168793
she’s chilling
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>>90168347
Hint?
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>>90168800
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>>90168745
just dew it
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>>90168800
camui wrote this
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>>90169140
well it's definitely gay enough
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>>90168800
The thread being on page 10 is not an invitation to post garbage
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>>90168800
sorry I think its because I'm esl but when I said I regret becoming a vtuber it was because I no longer got cute messages like that one, please don't feel bad, I said it a few post back but your post really made my day and I have it screenshotted on my phone and my pc and whenever I feel down it's one of the post I read

love you whoever you are anon, please I didn't mean to say that you hurt me please calm down and stop feeling bad
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>>90168880
I'm venting my feelings and frustrations, this isn't meant to reach anyone particular, even if he did read it.
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>>90168626
Literally go out and talk to women rather than expecting wisdom to come from theory

It will be uncomfortable but you're a man, be comfortable with being uncomfortable
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>>90169182
fuck, to explain myself further when I say that I regret becoming a vtuber I mean that when I was a viewer I could chat and chat and chat but after I became a vtuber my brain feels that if I chat too much the streamer will think I'm trying to steal his attention and that thought drives me nuts so I mostly lurk
sorry for the misunderstanding
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I'm glad I never wasted a single second supporting Fwofie. I could tell she would squeeze what she could out of this place and cut ties like Gumpai, Zenya, Miukyun and other grifters
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>>90169344
I miss you being in my chat and spending time with me, it makes me really sad that I barely feel you around anymore.
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>>90169360
the people who make messages like this are the same people shitting on her the last thread because she wanted to give back and help the community.
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>>90169360
Maybe if this place wasn't a huge crab bucket would have stuck around.
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down to 13.5k now
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it's not my fault, but sometimes I can't help but think it is.
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>>90169397
I'm sorry but like I said my brainworms start acting up and I start overthinking
I do lurk streams in my second monitor, and sometimes logged off as well so I might not be noticed anymore
sorry
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I’m blacklisting everyone that still follows gumpai. Nothing personal but it’s just optics
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>>90169586
I miss you a lot. I hope this doesn't make it harder.
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>>90169644
You are a part of the problem
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>>90163229
Same I’m going to crab her now
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>>90169644
Lmao sad
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>>90168800
grace. . . .
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>>90169644
Wise decision. It should have been done a long time ago, but if this doesn't wake them up nothing will.
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>>90169477
she should sue her detractors for defamation
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>>90169709
please dont
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>>90168745
Literally go watch Iriya's videos
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The pleasure of Vita cumming inside me...
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>>90170840
no one would ever say this
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The pleasure of playing Stalker 2 with Vita...
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>>90170840
kill yourself vita
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>>90170934
But I just did?
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>>90171055
I mean, sincerely say this.



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