She's ranting about Ironmouse situation and how she was attacked in the past too.

It's between 2 and 4 things

>i wanna address two things
>well, four things
>maybe three things

>one of them pisses me off
>there's a few things here
>one of them is 100% my fault

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I'm already feeling lost.

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>bad website
Is she talking about us?

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>sounds of very fast typing
Turns out it was YouTube chat message.

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We can keep pushing, we're so close, right sisters?

So TLDR, she loves us. Is the thing that pisses her off, or the one that is 100% her fault?

tl;dr so far
>people say i don't appreciate the community
>that's not the case but it's possible people miss it because i save that stuff for the end of stream because twitch viewership goes up with time, unlike on YouTube
[not true, Hololive streams go up in viewership/stay at same level and only drop when entering superchat reading]
>after all the bad things i tried to stay away from other people, both online and irl, i was fine being alone because i had you
>you guys are the only reason why i kept going
>i would have quit streaming if not for you

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>I doubt want to be a vtuber anymore
>wish I could flesh stream but am a Christmas cake
>I give up on my dreams. Am happy with you guys BUT
Jesus, Sayu.

>>90246295
kek

Now she's complaining that girls have to put on make up while streaming unlike guys. She's saying she wants to be a hybrid streamer (irl + vtuber) and wondering if she should continue or not. She's admitting that she's past her prime in terms of looks.

Personally, I don't understand the issue. Why does she desperately need to show her irl face? The whole point of vtubers is not showing your face. You don't need make up etc. this way.
Hell, there's no need for vtuber model / facecam at all. You can create content without that.

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lucky guy is getting roasted hard live
2 minutes scolding ToT

>>90247341
What did he say?

>>90247442
I didn't catch it fully. He was complaining about her mods earlier.

I'm tired of streamers fragility.

>this will be hard to listen to for a lot of people

>i read a lot faster than my mods do

oh boy it's starting

>>90247477
there's a replay function on her yt stream. anyway poor dude, got scolded like she's her mom

>>90247695
Her stream only shows twitch chat on screen. Banned people get removed from VOD chat afaik.

>I was jealous of streamers who don't have to interact with chat
uhhh Sayu, pretty much every big streamer used to be a small streamer in the past, you aren't the only one

>>90247242
>Personally, I don't understand the issue. Why does she desperately need to show her irl face?
Literal woman problem, especially lonely femcels ones who never get any compliments for their looks

Goddamn the raid alert was shouting over her.

>>90247242
>She's admitting that she's past her prime in terms of looks
Most of the big hybrid chuubas don't even show their face on stream (Squ, Shon and even Onigiri wear a facemask). That's the magic of it.
The difference is that she keeps posting her face on social media and even has a paywalled lingerie photoshoot

>>90247242
to me she is just losing her shit becsuse she wants to be bigger than she is. She isn't small enough to be niche and ignored. But she isn't big enough to be mint or doki. She is the middle and she clearly hates it. She wants more out of her internet fame and it feels like she wants to start flinging shit to the wall and seeing what sticks.

This is all crazy talk to me after signing to an agency like a week ago.

>>90248307
Sayu lingerie where?

Anyone know what sorta stuff she talks about on discord?

I don't really agree with her. All vtubers who reached 1M subscribers did many good things (except Niji EN males).

>>90248527
It's the chobits cosplay on her fansly

I think she's simply emotionally stunted if she can't appreciate online relationships same way as irl ones. I have no issues doing that. The person I connect the most with, I never saw and I do have close irl friends.

>>90247341
that subhuman went salty over her following a certain horse

>>90248991
Rima?

>>90248760
That's pretty far from lingerie, it's just bare legs

>why don't you be normal?
>you could do better!
>I hope they graduate as vtubers
>I understand it's their choice but you could be so much more
Jesus fucking christ Sayu, you don't get to decide what is better for other people.

I'm starting to understand her however, this stream is eye opening in a lot ways. She doesn't like vtubing. She doesn't respect it. She treats it as something inferior to other career paths or even to other content creation styles. She's only doing vtubing because she thinks she can't make it big, become famous, any other way and this "inferior" way is her only option at reaching current numbers.

>>90249184
It is lingerie. Very cute panties and bra. Shame about face though.

>>90249184
I'm not sure what you're seeing but the set contains 7 photos

She never posted on forums, reddit or 4chan, she was spending time hanging out with friends.
Huh. Interesting.

>>90249362
>She never posted on
It's not a lie if she's a lurker

>>90249488
Well, it wasn't the strict kind of 'never'. More of her habits of spending free time in previous years.

>>90249326
On Fansly? I only see one. I found another on the photographer's deviantart. Guess I need to look harder

>camilia stalker incident?
>it's common sense to check for trackers

>>90249815
She's not wrong, but she could phrase it a bit more diplomatically

>>90249864
It's something to say on 4chan or in your small circle of friends, not as a content creator in front of huge audience.

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This hag will literally gouge your eyes out.

>I'm not trying to comment on other people
>I don't say specific names
...
You didn't have to respond to that comment, you know? And you did specify you were talking about camelia later.

>>90249966
The irony of her rambling about not wanting to talk about other people after just doing it

>>90250097
Yeah, I was rolling my eyes when she said that.

Are we going in circles now

I've heard her talk about her "lost relationships" quite a bit. I think she needs to seek out a therapist, because this is not healthy. It sucks but at that point its time to just move on.

that last bit sounds like Zaions mama didn't want to talk to her afterwards.

>I had an artist friend I was close with
>because I was fired from the company, she couldn't respect me anymore and we stopped talking
>could I earn them back?
>I don't know, maybe if I reached out to them but I don't have strength to do that

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>this stream
Keep on being a loser tranny enabler cuck sayu

>actually it's a good thing that I pathologically read all the mean comments

Sayu now saying don't harass other people in her name
This is the same whore who personally thanked her schizos for bullying quinn

This woman is a mid level gaslighter but I can see how thousands of low IQ retards would fall for her sleight of hand

>>90246181
Oh, so she's making every single thing about herself like usual
Thanks for the tip Anon, I won't even waste my time watching this

>>90248324
After listening to whole thing, I think you hit the nail on the head.

WHAT
the only reason she joined NOA was because she FELT she needs to do it for the PUBLIC eye? not for herself?
?!?!?!

>>90250761
Quinn deserved it though

Damn, two Sayu threads? What did Niji do this time

>>90251058
Other thread was made 15 minutes after this one.

>>90248324
Ding ding ding. She has been in the crazy amount of 'limelight' so to speak. And yet for some reason her numbers don't reflect that. Even her past meltdowns about people ignoring her were partly about being 'denied opportunities '.

>>90246181
She didn't mention Mouse at all, other than to say that what she'd say would have nothing to do with connor's video.

>>90251041
She was saying earlier she was doing it so that she could get away from just being an ex-Niji. Of course, that came on the heels of a rant about getting screwed by Niji.

>>90248324
It sounds more like she's pissed that a lot of options closed to her and she lost so much progress with networking after getting terminated, since apparently a lot of friends ghosted her, even outside of streamers, like an artist friend who dropped all contact the instant she got terminated.
She's just doing her best to avoid all contact with other creators now because she's scared of being rejected or ignored again.
Understandable and kind of fucked.

>>90251058
More like her fans can't keep the general going so they make threads like that to keep her relevant /here/

>>90251126
Yeah she didn't mention mouse by name but she clearly referred to Ironmouse situation by specifically mentioning Connor's video.

>>90251241
It is, but she's mentioned this issue quite a bit. Nearly two years on, its for the best she seek out therapy.

>>90251254
...So you're saying she's ranting about Ironmouse's situation despite explicitly saying that connor's video has nothing to do with her stream?
Jeez, just go back to spamming fauna threads. At least those were entertaining.

>>90251286
And she has plenty of willing collab partners and sponsorship's at this point

>>90251311
Are you retarded? That was a liveposting comment. A reaction to what she was saying at that time, without knowing how rest of the stream will look.

>>90250761
She thanked her fans then because quinn is small shitter and harassing him wouldn't have any consequences. This time, however, if some of insane fans went after any bigger streamers it may cause her trouble. So there's that.

>>90251345
a liveposting comment that completely lied about what she was saying in an effort to make her look worse?

I see psychoknights have arrived to shit up the thread.

>>90250097
If any vtuber doesn't wanna talk to her, it's because of nijisanji. There can't be any other reason. If you disagree you are a sister.

>>90248324
yeah this is the annoying it because she's already in the successful side of vtubing tho I respect the grind

>>90251396
No, it described what was happening at that specific moment of the stream. You disagreeing with the interpretation doesn't make it "completely lying to make her look worse". You are jsut a mentally ill cultists who is feeling personally offended because a comment on 4chan wasn't praising your idol.

Why does this keep happening? has she tried therapy or anything like that at all?

>>90251461
She's a dramawhore, my dude
And she just makes EVERYTHING about herself, for fuck's sake
t.Not a sister, just someone that won't fall for her grift and pity parties anymore

>>90251619
I think that anon was sarcastic. I don't blame you because I needed a second take myself.

Bitch really need to understand she need to take a day off when her mind regress into Woman Moments

>>90251584
Yeah. She's medicated now, too, and completely changed her streaming style to make herself more "safe."
Unfortunately, her antis are pretty tenacious, and staying in her own lane to heal isn't going to bring back any of the relationships she lost from getting fired and having her career torched.
>>90251461
It's not even just vtubers, but even people outside the vtubing sphere who she WAS friendly with ghosting her forever the instant she got terminated.
She had the friends before Nijisanji. After nijisanji they were gone.

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Today I will remind all sayu faggots

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>>90251767
She still has had plenty of people willing to help her, even before the Doki drama though.

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>>90251784
remind us of the image you made of a random facebook meme and are the only one to ever post in sayu threads with the same filename?

>>90251767
Her antis aren't especially tenacious relative to a lot of others. She just has an unhealthy compulsion to acknowledge them and get herself worked up about it. She literally talked on this very stream about how she basically can't help herself from reading every comment even when she should just ignore them.

>>90251784
Meh, I don't like her anymore, but that's weak bait.

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>>90251461
>>90251767
Could it be because sayu is a mentally unwell insane sociopath who chimped out at artists and other people like kenji multiple times? Burning bridges everywhere she goes is her specialty

>>90251862
She got to collab with fuckin kson and silvervale. I mean cmon, I get that certain people ghosted her but the whole "she was all alone and shiet" schtick gets old really really fast.

>>90251939
Anon that person punched a cat while having her model on stream.

>>90251939
She is on good terms with kenji. He is a somewhat fascinating guy tho.

>>90251767
>her antis are pretty tenacious
None of her issues this year were cause by tenacious antis. She's just overreacting to any(-thing she perceives as) criticism.

>>90251962
No, he did not. You're a pathetic dramafag who happily joins witch hunts without doing any research.
He was slapping his cat on the back/ass and it's something his cat enjoys, many cats do. He wasn't hurting his pet.

>>90248593
Yep, blue dorito can give you a head start but to reach 1 mil you need something more. Something that even a few of the Holo girls are still trying to find.

>>90252074
If she didn't like it, wouldn't she run away?

>>90252135
I doubt minimum wage can handle her current living standard

>>90252158
I meant the cat
https://youtu.be/GQHQbkMpr5o

>>90252135
Kek I was just watching that video. But yeah, cats do enjoy that kind of slapping which might look heavy to clueless people but isn't actually harmful.

>>90252074
Cats don't usually whimper pathetically after something they like happens.

>>90251939
>>90252000
Funny thing is, it was Kenji who started the whole drama and cancelling of Shonzo (the artist, the papa of Shondo) which Sayu happily jumped on to join. Ironic, isn't it?

>>90252208
They do, retard. It's clear you never owned a pet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=517yf9XkQdk

>>90252324
Anon, the alternative timeline would've been sisters smearing her as siding with an animal abuser.
What would you have done in her position?

>>90252379
...simply not voice an opinion at all? That's always an option and usually the best one.
Anyway, sisters were smearing her regardless (and so did Kenji's fans, a year later too) so no, she didn't gain anything. All she achieved was undermining her own integrity and showing to anyone who wanted to give her a chance that she doesn't deserve any sort of trust. She will throw them under the bus whenever she feels like if it has a chance of benefitting her, not caring about truth or justice, despite what happened to her. She literally did to him what Finana and Hex did to her less than a year before. Except she had no pressure from someone above her to do it, she chose to do it on her own.

>>90252541
>...simply not voice an opinion at all? That's always an option and usually the best one.
Anon she was literally on the screen during the viral clip because he was working on HER model. While he was offscreen allegedly abusing his cat, her face was the only thing on stream. She HAD to say something.

>>90252541
>a year later
two months later*
man, it's been a rough year

>>90252599
No she didn't have to say anything at all. Her being on screen is irrelevant. The drama was about the artist and the cat, not about a model he was working on. She made it about herself because she wanted to. She was trying to win internet brownie points by participating in smear campaign with fellow evil people. She was bullied in the past so she wanted to be a bully too when she got a chance. That's all there was to it.

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>>90252599
Nobody gave a shit about her being present in that video
>>68135153
>>68140577.

Can you go back to fighting about the ongoing stream instead
That was funnier

>>90252688
It's called being content brained. She was just doing good PR for herself. Can you blame her?

>>90252927
It's over. She's starting to game now. She said her piece and hopefully she does go fleshie so she becomes off-topic for /here/ and I don't have to see any more of these retarded threads.

>>90252975
>going full fleshie
Considering she joined a vtuber corpo I don't think that will be happening anytime soon

>>90252951
>Can you blame her?
Yes, I can.
She did an awful job. It wasn't good PR. It may have seemed like one in the moment short term but it was a disastrous move long term. Acting emotionally is rarely a good decision, especially if it involves harming another person ('s reputation).

Anyone who saw what she did realized it's better to stay away from her because there's no telling when she'll betray them too and throw them to the drama hungry dogs for the sake of "just doing good PR for herself". Why interact with someone like Sayu when there's hundreds of other vtubers who are safer and don't speak up on every imaginable issue? Also notice the date. This was right before Selen's termination. That could have very well been the reason why people didn't reach out to her even after it became cool to hate Niji and support ex-nijis.

>>90251124
>for some reason her numbers don't reflect that
Because she tells potential new fans to fuck off because she can't groom them to attack other people.

>>90253126
All that you wrote is cool for 4chan, doesn't work well on twitter. You need to learn how to play the game. If tomorrow that guy got 'vindicated' for the lack of a better word maybe and dramatubers turned on her maybe people will bring it up. Considering both of those events are unlikely to happen, I'd say she did good long term, PR wise.

Other than that, it doesn't matter. Of course I respect your personal opinion tho.

>>90253126
Doesnt really help she constantly undermines every sort of good will and PR she gets with the bimonthly mental tirades on stream, stupid takes, shooting shots at random innocents (like Camila here), or general two face behavior - One account shes all mega downer / leech for attention, the other she is open to her most loyal fans who she congratulates and thanks for harassing others in her name.

>>90253487
Anon, go to bed. You've been seething in sayu threads for hours now.

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>>90253236
There's a reason nobody was reaching out to Sayu when Doki was getting showered with support.
Doki never spoke ill of other people in the scene. Sayu... the opposite.

>You need to learn how to play the game.
Oh really? Where are her results then? What did she gain from it?
Reminder,
>March 2023 - Zaion termination: Kenji releases 500k video smearing her
>Feb 2024 - Kenji started harassment campaign vs Shonzo about cat """abuse""" and """racism"""
>while also failing to even notice that Sayu is visible in the clip, she is worth less than dirt in his eyes
>Sayu joins Kenji's witch hunt on twitter in the efforts to cancel the artist
(you claim this is a good move on her part)
>1 day later Selen is terminated
>Apr 2024 Kenji makes up a drama about him being doxed
>Sayu shits on him on twitter saying he deserved getting doxed because he was mean to her a year ago
>Kenji remembers who the fuck Sayu is and relaunches another harassment campaign against her

>>90253536
I mean I rather tell how it is from my time following her from being Zaion, to now, than be glazed to the actual problems she has.

Also I’ve been here 5 minutes, also first time i’ve posted in here lol.

>>90253671
Did you also know that she was actually the one beating the guy's cat offstream? It's true.

>>90253671
When I say a good move pr wise, I specifically meant the shonzo thing, not the rest. You could say it was hypocritical of her considering what kenji did to her but like I said, people don't care about that shit in reality.

Anyways I'm tired and gotta go to sleep. So goodnight.

Rewinded for precise numbers.
Sayu spent 63 hours straight and $2000 on her Nijisanji Genshin account.
She uses that as an argument that she put in time, money and effort into trying back then.

>>90253935
amazing

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It's funny how schizoknights are shitting on Sky Rainpuff in the threads while Sayu gladly plays with him on stream.

>>90253935
>$2000 on Genshin
Some people just shouldn't be allowed to use money

>>90254284
It was completely unnecessary too. She just didn't feel like playing with weak characters / didn't have enough imagination to think of how make it interesting. So she whaled hard to get overpowered characters in the easiest gacha game on the market where you can clear endgame with lower rarity characters since launch to this day.

She whales c2 Sigewine without reading her kit several months ago. She only checked her skill description today and realized she hates it and will never use her.

>>90253935
literally anything would be better than fucking genshin
just buy gunpla and put them together and film it

>>90256318
She does do that, actually. She's made quite a few gunpla on stream.
Hell, the other day she built some kind of little ghibli diorama using wood bits.
Genshin's mostly her comfort game and she does it if she's stressed out and needs to zone out for a while, but back then that WAS her main content. She was one of the biggest genshin streamers at the time and you couldn't separate her from the game. Hell, it was likely the reason they even hired her.