I think it looks cool
>>90246994>random bits of string all over>permanent low-budget lens flare for no reason
>>90246873chewsday innit
>>90246873weekly menhera rant
viewers down time to drama farm
She should just go on a random killing spree if she wants attention so badly.
>>90246873please someone volunteer to fuck her, she needs a good fuck
Why is she sans?
>triple the views of a normal streamGrim
>>90248196Because you're about to have a BAD TIME.
I guess I missed it
>>90246873qrd?
surprisely no op appeared and talk about it after what occur yesterday, https://holodex.net/watch/stiQW2oFD5k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stiQW2oFD5kit happened because yesterday, a retard backseat and spoil, and ruined the mood. Then she went melty and yap about stepping on graves back when she's a kid and what's her grave mottos going to be, those who stayed in the strim knows
>>90248496She doesn't want to be mint/doki anymore but can't be mikocode either because she is past her prime in looks. Also she loves her chat because they stick with her no matter what.
>>90248577>>90248633she also said she only gets the downsides of being an ex-niji but none of the upsides, so she doesn't want that label.
>>90248577she and chat yesterday dunk on 4chan aswell
>>90248833So that tweet about the video of ironmouse hate was just her being angry that 4chan is rage bait central???
>>90248833what is there to dunk on
>>90248911>>90248577think its anon referring to dis, not related to today
>>90248833If she honestly this place is worse than twitter or tiktok she's a lost cause
>>90249109no, it's everything since she made the mistake of joining niji.
uh oh another schizo thread happening
>>90246873she needs a good dicking desu
>>90246873Has she already abandoned her new model?
Hello I smell blood
>this thread
>>90249575she used the pixel model on the now private pokémon stream. I think she'll use the new model again tomorrow.
>>90250146Get out of here and go fucking stream, shork.
u ppl r sick.
>>90251222sick of people shitting on my kamioshi
>>90250216THE ABSOLUTE FORESHADOWING
>>90251301Then stop bringing her up here. She's never spoken of positively here and it's best for her mental health if this place forgets her entirely.
>>90248633>She doesn't want to be mint/doki anymoreShe does want to be Mint/Doki but shedoesn't see a way to achieve that so she's giving up*
>>90251431She was shat on just by sisters in the pastBut she just fucks around so much that she lost any goodwill she could receive from hereA crying shame
>>90251431I talk about eating out her hag pussy constantly, that's pretty positive
>>90248633>>90251601>She doesn't want to be mint/doki anymore>she doesn't see a way to achieve that and she's giving upShe doesn't want to be the because they refuse to acknowledge her existence and give her any clout
>>90251431/corpo/ loves her tho
>>90251601Has she tried not blindly lashing out at her fans/other chuubers every few months? Mint doesn't do that, and I feel that's partly why I like her more.
>>90252060you said you were done and leaving, do we have to do this again, schizo? I know you're on tva, by the way.
>>90252128I have no idea who your talking about.
>>90246873Is this girl only perk to stir shit up? I honestly feel bad for her
>>90252148I'm talking about you, doxxnigger.
>>90248577If it's forever lost to time, then welp, can't look into it. Let me know if someone archived it or something
>>90252413It really wasn't that interesting. She was just dooming and making a conversation about graves and what kind of grave she'd want, and why she doesn't want a flat grave because then stupid kids would step on it to get out of the rain like she did, but if she did she'd put like a line game or some funny line on it. Also looking into gravestone prices and how absurdly expensive the "good" ones are.
>>90252413I have it archived but I won't share it. She wants it gone, so it's gone.
>>90252128You know he's right. You know he's right and that's why all you can do is ad hominems.
>>90252581I should've archived it or something. I passed out around 3 AM and couldn't continue. Lots of fun shit happened that day that sadly will never see the light of day I guess.
>>90252627Stop pretending to be multiple anons, you can't change your typing style enough.
>>90252685Retard. Stop bumping the damn bait thread. Let them >>OP on their own until they get bored.
>>90252685You really can't conceive of more than one person having a problem with Sayu?
>>90252685I'll say it again. Sayu doesn't want "dragoon bandwagonners" in her fanbase. She wants her easily malleable sub-1k audience that she can groom into attacking anyone she mildly dislikes for no fucking reason. What do you have to say to that, chump?
>>90252873I say that she explicitly said not to attack people and that she doesn't want to be disappointed by our actions.
>>90252725I can, but I can spot this specific anti from a mile away.>>90252873>What do you have to say to that, chump?That you obviously didn't listen to what she said today.
>>90253133>>90253213All the while personally thanking Piprup for harassing people in her name on her alt account. The hypocrisy of this woman.
>>90253345what does me saying>That you obviously didn't listen to what she said today.have to do with him?
>>90253439She never stands for anything she says.
I support Sayu, but what people are saying here is true, she is engaging in self-destructive behavior that is hurting her and scaring people away from her. She says that she's over what happened, but clearly, she has not, and she can't let it go. It was a horrific moment in her life, but at a certain point you have to move forward for your own sake. She keeps bringing up everything that happened, continuously engages her haters, and talks about other livers and groups in not-so-great ways.At this point, I'm just going to move forward with my life and watch people who can make me happy rather than trying to make someone happy about themselves. I wish her the best and I hope that she can get some help.
>>90246873and the crowd goes mild
>>90254211>what people are saying here is true,The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
>>90251748>they refuse to acknowledge her existenceWhy is that, anyways? Did she do anything bad to them? Or is she that unlikeable in person?
>>90254603Doki? Fuck if i know. Mint? Probably because of the beef Sayu had with Matara in the past.
>>90254603>>90254651They met at Offkai, apparently. She was with Mata when she went to lunch with Sayu. Regardless, Mint hates drama of any kind and likely avoided mentioning her at the time to not get roped in when she was still deciding if she wanted to keep streaming or not.. Doki knows she exists ("Cy Yu not Sayu") but has been clear that she won't ever make the first move with people from her "past" as she wants to move on and forget that place existed. Sayu's also made it clear that she doesn't want to even try to reconnect anymore with people because so many of her attempts with others either didn't help or were just ignored and she's tired of being ghosted. It's unlikely that either of them will ever connect since none of Doki's events would be something Sayu would be interested in joining.In the end, she was only in that company for a few months during predebut, and all of that was without her being in the main server that Selen was in, so it's unlikely they even spoke. Even after Selen's termination and the similarities, Doki flat out refused to acknowledge Nijisanji in any way and acknowledging Sayu would've been the opposite of her goal.Sayu truly has all of the negatives+more of being an ex-niji without any of the positives (having friends to share the experience with.)
>>90248833But this board is biased in her favor though?
>>90248577This sounds like an amazing person I am glad regis altare of holostars english likes this person.
>>90252060Anon, she started this very stream by bringing up Connor's video about Ironmouse.A bit later chat asked her about recent stalker incident with another vtuber so she talked about how she doesn't want to talk about other people on stream and especially specify their namesand instead of ignoring it she proceeded to voice her full opinion on the incident>it's common sense to check for trackers, that's all i have to sayand specified she was talking about Camelia.
>>90254603A day before Selen was terminated, Sayu participated in smear campaign cancelling Shondo's papa for supposed animal abuse (which was a false accusation).
>>90255523You're twisting her words again, anon. This is basically what her whole spiel was about. >>90255593retard
>>90246873somehow this model is depressingly worse than her old one
>>90255622It's truth, faggot.
>>90255671Sure it is, grandma. Let's get you to bed.
>>90255707cultist is madwhen he can no longer lie his way out of Sayu's shitty's behaviors, he resorts to ad hominem
>>90255730No, no. I agree with you. Did you also know that she secretly told Riku to terminate Selen in retaliation for not helping her during her exit?
>>90255622
Whoa this thread was extremely quiet. How come it blew up suddenly.
>>90255755Retard. You don't get to dismiss facts by conflating them with lies.
>>90255774Yeah, I know. She's deflecting because she was actually the one beating the guy's cat and pinned it on him to take the fall. >>90255791schizo's on a melty right now or something because sayu stopped the serious talk.
>>90255791The only ones left is Sayu's fanbase are desperate cultists who can't stomach people pointing out her flaws.
>>90255622>You're twisting her words again, anon.Go ahead and clarify what she said then, instead of throwing empty accusations in sad attempts to deflect.
>>90255838Yeah, did you know they're also the ones who left the kurosanji comment that Scarle liked that got everyone worried enough to start #WhereIsScarle?
>>90255838True its probably >90255826 Keeps bumping to get people to talk about her. He was talking sarcastic nonsense earlier too.
>>90255826>She's deflecting because she was actually the one beating the guy's cat and pinned it on him to take the fall.Holy schizo.
Wait no I'm on a different thread. No wonder I got confused. This one is a lot more schizo haha
>>90251601>but shedoesn't see a way to achieve that so she's giving up*Sayu has had more than enough chances to start fresh, but she’s fumbled every single one of them. At some point, if you want to grow as a content creator, you have to stop blaming everyone else, quit feeling sorry for yourself, and start making a real effort to improve your content. This board and a few random twitter posts are pretty much the only places where she gets any hate or anti-posting (or even discussion of any kind, really), and even that was mostly just random sisters and shitposters trying to bait her into reacting. She doesn’t really have to deal with harassment anymore.What I’m saying is, outside of her hardcore community, no one cares about Sayu. You see tons of vtubers, more and less popular than her, who deal with drama from twitter or other communities constantly, yet they still get clipped, invited to collabs, and continue to grow their audiences because they’re putting in the work and reaching out to new fans and creators. Sayu just doesn't do that. I get where Sayu’s coming from. Asking her to pretend nothing happened would be unfair, but she needs to turn the page on her career and make a real effort to move forward. Take the NOA thing, it’s probably a scam, but it was still a chance to start over. Instead of embracing something new, she chose a model that mashed all her past designs into one. Sure, it’s just a model, but it also represents her current mindset: it's all baggage.>tl;dr Just stop feeling sorry for yourself, get a completely new model, let go of the past, and go out there to make some new friends
>>90256128>This board and a few random twitter posts are pretty much the only places where she gets any hate or anti-posting (or even discussion of any kind, really)I wish that was the case. There's apparently a lot of people still fucking with her behind the scenes. She's an extrovert so she DID attempt to reach out to a lot of people, and while she got a few good results, most people who she knew or were friends with before the termination dropped her like a hot potato and now ignore her because it's inconvenient and awkward, with a few like Onigiri banning the word "Sayu" in her chat. A few others just hate her for being fired in the first place, like the artist friend mentioned this stream, or that one music guy she used to raid back in like 2021. She's a giant inconvenient black spot that nobody wants to acknowledge or try to reconnect with because she's just not big enough to matter and it's been so long that it's easier to just pretend she never existed. I really hope this NOA thing pans out so she's able to just find an entirely new market/community to work with since the vtubing space is effectively dead to her.
>>90248577BASED ESL KING
>>90256308>nobody wants to acknowledgeCan we stop with this "uwu wayu's so ronery" bullshit? its not 2023 anymore, plenty of people have been willing to acknowledge her, she just keeps burning bridges for no reason.
>>90256308>I wish that was the case. There's apparently a lot of people still fucking with her behind the scenes. >apparently So you don’t actually know, and you’re just taking her word for it and making assumptions about the relationships of someone with chronic depression who’s repeatedly said she’s given up on networking. That’s the baggage I’m talking about. Sure, maybe some of her former friends feel awkward around her or just don’t like her, but acting like everyone ignores her because she was "fired" is ridiculous. Filian is still massively popular after openly stealing from an artist, for crying out loud. Plus, Sayu had collabs with Zen and Filian, and even Matara went out of her way to patch things up with her, so it's not like people didn't try to help her.
>>90256308>with a few like Onigiri banning the word "Sayu" in her chati'm pretty sure this was after the melty Sayu had on stream when someone randomly mentioned Onigiri
>>90256308"I have no friends!">Punkalopi>Kson>notAltare>Tobs>Silver>PorcelainMaid>Matara (this was before the drama)plus tons more
>>90256877Look at this shit, and this was months before the Last cup of coffee drama >>90251862Sayu just wants people she can leech off of and she's mad that most of her friends are smaller or the same size as her
>>90254211>paragraph spacinggo back
>>90257183Silence monkey boi
>>90246873When she allied herself with chink bugs she made her choice, shame
she is a vtuber lolcow at this point
>>90258681That would be mikeneko
>>90258681>at this point
>>90254211>She says that she's over what happenedshe said the exact opposite...>>90255593she didn't participate in the smear campaign, she cancelled her 3D model. I do agree it was a false accusation.
>>90256308>A few others just hate her for being fired in the first place, like the artist friend mentioned this streamWhen something sounds this crazy, there’s probably more to the story than what Sayu’s saying
>>90259145Anon, they're japanese.If she's blacklisted, they want nothing to do with her.
30+ year old divorcee trash drama baiting for her teen audience.This woman is pure garbage.
>>90258768sayu is discount miguel gato
>>90259218And yet, other japanese artists like Pako have no problem interacting with Sayu. My point is, there’s a big difference between an artist not being able to work with you due to a conflict of interest and them actually hating you because you were "fired". So, if it’s the latter and Sayu genuinely believes this artist hates her, there’s probably more to the story than she’s letting on.
>>90255730>cultisthi again doxxnigger
What did niji make her do this time
>>90259282Call me when Sayu starts attacking 4chan with legal threats to doxx us. >>90259333At this point, who knows. She's been through a lot of shit and is still a bit broken, so who knows how much is her brainworms and how much is scummy people taking advantage of a naive idiot.
>>90259398>and how much is scummy people taking advantage of a naive idiot.Where is this coming from?
>>90256698>and you’re just taking her word for itshe has never given me a reason to doubt her.>and even Matara went out of her way to patch things up with herdon't steal credit from Mint, even if she doesn't want to claim it. the roach was all too happy to keep ignoring her, but Mint intervened and had them patch things up.
>>90259597>but Mint intervened and had them patch things uplollmao eventhe same mint that ghosted Sayu right after their meeting?
>>90259398>Call me when Sayu starts attacking 4chan with legal threats to doxx us.or kills her cat in a fit of rage like miguel did.
>>90259675yes, it's possible to help resolve a situation without wanting to do anything else with said person afterwards.
>>90259730lmao
>>90259754you must be at least 18 to post here.
>>90259508Sayu's notoriously trusting, which is why she gets taken advantage of all the time.If you apologize, you're cool. Doesn't matter what you did, you're friends now. Her default stance towards people is to trust them immediately until they give her a reason not to. Because of this, pretty much every partner she's had has cheated on her, her "friends" have taken advantage of her (often ending up in cheating with said partner), and of course, she joined Niji thinking everyone would be happy and nice and willing to make friends like she was.
>>90259833>If you apologize, you're cool. Doesn't matter what you did, you're friends now. and that's sky rainpuff can keep damaging her like no one else. I fucking hate that clipnigger with a burning passion, he even clipped her crying for "the content" and had the audacity to link her discord so the antis could raid it.
>>90259833My point is, I don't understand why you're bringing up the "Sayu is a naive idiot" angle when we're talking about this artist supposedly hating her. Did they take advantage of her? Did Sayu even imply that? Based on what I know about her and what you're saying, >If you apologize, you're coolit seems to me like the artist just wasn’t interested in working with Sayu for whatever reason. She probably took that as a personal attack, the artist never reached out because they didn’t feel they need to, and now Sayu is still waiting for an apology. That seems far more reasonable than "this random artist hates Sayu because she got fired"
>>90259924uh oh someone is jealous~
I only watched for a bit when someone posted on discord that she was going off. I don't get it. She just started shitting on her chat, and they were gobbling it up like sigmas. Then went into the classic streamer rant of "why can't I make more money?" + "I'm so burned out working 20 hours a week".
>>90257199Holy projection!The only monkey here is you, godwinson.
>>90260340It's the battered wife syndrome
>>90260340>I'm so burned out working 20 hours a weekGod I wish I could find a 20 hours week job with ok pay
>>90260009That guy is her fan. They have a certain worldview about things. And every single event concerning her goes through that. You may as well be arguing with a schizo in good faith.
>>90260009>My point is, I don't understand why you're bringing up the "Sayu is a naive idiot" angle when we're talking about this artist supposedly hating her. Did they take advantage of her? Did Sayu even imply that? Based on what I know about her and what you're saying,The point is that we don't know and it could go either way. She didn't give any details so there's no way for us to figure out who it was. Maybe some of the oldest fans would know, but they obviously won't crack for dramafags. It was just an example story she told, and we do know of several people who actually DID behave that way and immediately ghosted her because they didn't want to be dragged into drama or attacked by Nijisanji, and then just refused contact afterwards because it'd been so long. (none of these people are vtubers)
Sayu needs to remember she is an entertainer. The Sayu persona is for her audience. And this drama.dump should be left for her inner circle and family.
Does anyone have an archive of the stream up? Seems shes already deleted it before i got chance to start clipping etc
>>90261193Check tomorrow. By default she has vods automatically private and she has to manually enable them later.
>>90254909>Mint hates drama of any kind>did a 3D concert with DRAMA: THE AGENCY this summer
>>90251748>>90254603>>90254651What exactly does Mint have to do with Sayu? Zaion joined nijisanji, streamed for 2 months, then fucked off. In that timeframe, Pomu and Zaion never once interacted. Do Sayufags really expect these two to get chummy once they’re out? It’s not her responsibility hand out opportunities to someone she barely knows. And this is the Mint who never acknowledged any ex-niji besides Matara and Doki since her return no less. At least Matara helped her get back on her feet and Doki were close with her back in the company. Compared to that, what has Sayu even done? She’s more like that one weird coworkers you never talked to but now try to associate with you now that you gained some success.
>>90260041jealous of what exactly?
I still don’t understand how this board is so quick on shitting on any other girl but Sayu’s untouchable. She has done everything that makes any other vtuber a whore to burn at the stake but not her. She could be talking about her fucking around she will still have wks.She’s clearly a BPD cunt, if everyone that knows about her behind the scenes won’t touch her with a ten feet pole the issue is clearly with her.I’ll let you on a little secret: if someone’s always the victim in any circumstance, there’s something they are not saying or are great at twisting narratives.She’s on a constant drama bait spree and looking for pity from everyone. You’re setting her up for failure.
It's funnier when you know this woman is a certified HAG and still behaving like she's a teenager
>>90261523Sayu desperately wants validation from Mint and Dokibird.Sayu sees herself and her experience that she had in her 3 months in NIJI and thinks that some kind of trauma bonding makes her close to Mint and Doki.Since leaving NIJI, Mint and Doki have done big their own things and have left Pomu and Selen behind. That is why they are megastars and separate themselves from the pack. Sayu is still crying and seeking pity for her cup of coffee in that place. Those who live in the past are doomed to repeat it, and Sayu’s permanently living in the past
>>90261313She has it under membership on YT, and I rather get to the VOD before she scrapes it in case she does upload it with stuff "trimmed" out.
>>90261523Nothing really. It's just that weird idea that because they KINDA shared getting fucked by Niji they should.be buddy buddy lol
>>90261609how many times have you talked with her in private? without paying lol
>Sayu
>>90262210Nta but are you the clipper he's talking about?
>>90262418no but let's just say that i hve spent enough time on sayu's discord to know how unhinged some of her fans can get and that i'm pretty sure this one is particularly mad about not getting enough attention
>>90260900i truly wish she could stop with the constant drama and bad decisions. i used to watch her, she can be real funny and a joy to watch, yet in an instant she can ruin an entire stream and happily shit on random chatters for little to no reason, or 180 her mood for any number of reasons. i'm really disappointed by how much of an enemy she makes of herself.also i really hate her new model, what the fuck sayu
>>90261734>Sayu desperately wants validation from Mint and Dokibird.tbf, most vtubers want some form of validation from people like thatthese are not random vtubers or twitch whores, they are 2 of the most admired and respected vtubers in the western scene. mint had holos lining up to be at her halloween reveal. that is how much respect mint and doki have earned. they are at the absolute top in the west.
>>90260769>The point is that we don't know and it could go either wayAnd that’s the whole issue right there.>we don't know>it could go either wayWe’ve gone from “this artist hates Sayu because she got fired” to “we don’t know what happened, it’s just an example”. The thing is, you’re admitting there’s enough wiggle room for this entire conflict to be just a result of Sayu’s own brainworms, and that’s really important. It means, on some level, you realize you can’t take her word 100% on this, or at the very least, that, again, there’s more to the story than she’s letting onSo, like you said, let’s treat this as an example. If there’s room to doubt Sayu’s claim that some random artist hates her for getting fired, then what’s the difference between this and all the other stories?>they abandoned her>they’re ignoring her>they were friends and they betrayed herSure, there’s no denying that a lot of vtubers who used to collab with Sayu don’t interact with her anymore. But there are also plenty of streamers who did start collabing with her after the drama and eventually stopped, too. The real issue is we’ve seen the same pattern play out repeatedly: Sayu stops interacting with someone, then she shares her side of the story while the other person just moves onAnd that’s the interesting part, because supposedly everyone hates Sayu, yet you won’t find anyone ranting about her. The worst we got was Matara saying Sayu betrayed her trust, but Sayu did it on stream, so it was fair game to talk about publicly. Other than that, the only one constantly ranting about others and feeling sorry for herself is Sayu. Hell, even Quinn publicly said he doesn’t have any issues with her and that everything is cool.So, we’ve got two possibilities:>Literally everyone has decided to ghost Sayu for the grave crime of being fired from Niji, while at the same time still supporting Doki and openly sucking the cock of people like Filian, who twitter fucking hates or>Sayu herself is the issue, and most of the people who are “ignoring” or “hate” her probably just don’t care about her that muchHonestly, the second one sounds way more likely. I’m not saying Sayu’s a bad person or that she is lying, but it’s clear she has always struggled with personal and professional relationships. And after spending almost a year in an echo chamber of yes-men, I doubt things have improved much.Whatever the case, things won’t get better for her until she stops blaming everyone else for her own struggles. She doesn’t need to beat herself up over it either, she just needs to let that stuff go, move on, and even gaslight herself if she has to into believing everything will be alright. If she can’t do that, she’d probably be much happier quitting this job and starting a new career doing literally anything else
>>90246873Why are her tits so far apart?
>>90260340>Then went into the classic streamer rant of "why can't I make more money?" + "I'm so burned out working 20 hours a week".That can't be, sincroknights said that she doesn't care about money because she can go on vacations...
Have sayucucks ever stopped taking L's? I feel bad for them. Obviously Niji is a black company, but in their infinite kindness the sayucucks clung to the worst possible victim of Niji's bullshit and are now learning the hard truth that just because someone is a victim doesn't mean they're a good person.
>>90262900Sayu is a 30 something year old woman acting like a desperate school girl for the attention of much younger streamers. She is beyond cringe.
>>90264314>30 something year old woman acting like a desperate school girl for the attention of much younger streamers.EN Mikeneko
>>90264172egg hanging from a nail
>>90264341>30 something>MikeMore like 30 something plus plus plus almost 40 plus
>>90264172real tits look like that if they arent smashed together, the chest isnt a flat plane so boobs point away from each other
>>90264314Shut up Quinn>>90256803>>90256308Where did you fags got this shit ass rrat? Any retard can go look it up and see it's not true.
Remember when Sayu publicly trashed her mama for not giving her special treatment and finishing her design fast enough? And then her mama became a holo? Things like this only happen to lil Sayu Wayu
>>90264752She didn't just publicly trash her, she accused her of playing favoritism and threatened her livelihood. Sayu is a psychopath.
>>90246873Considerable design downgrade
>>90264907yeah no one wants to work with this bitch so she gets scraps
>>90264924I said design not quality sister Having a worse hairstyle and meatblob tits was her choice
>>90264824It's also why I take what she says with a grain of salt. She may have made up with her mama personally but that is irrelevant to the fact she is willing to outright lie at times and people will happily eat it up.
>>90248577I can fix her
>>90246873Roastie whore LMOA
>>90262529lmao you're off by a lot
>>90265353>and people will happily eat it upWho? Most of her longtime fans don’t even care if there are cracks in her stories, they’re just there because they want to feel like they’re supporting and helping an anime woman who was treated unfairly by the world. No one else cares about Sayu or what she has to say anymore because she’s played the rant and drama cards way too many times.
>>90264752>>90264824>>90265353proof next thread, right?
>>90246873Seriously what does she have to complain about? Are her fans really not good enough for her? She's a divorced roastie she should count her blessings that her fans are as stupid and loyal as they are.
>>90265713Anon, everyone knows about the Yuniiho rant
>>90266347I heard rrats, but no UNCUT VOD segment was ever presented, so they stay rrats.
>>90264341She's incredibly frustrating but she's still not on the level of Mike, I don't know why anons keep claiming this. I can only assume it's ignorance of how insane Mike actually is.
>>90266467That’s cool, but pretty much everyone still sticking around these threads has seen her rant about Yunii and knows it’s not a rrat. So, have fun screaming into the void. Or better yet, explain what your problem is and why those anons are wrong. I’m sure that’ll do more for Sayu than just acting like a retard.
>>90264752And Yuniiho supposedly talked her out of contemplating suicide. God, Sayu is such an unprincipled cunt, with every passing day it's getting more evident.
>>90266688how convenient that "pretty much everyone" has seen it but no one has saved it, isn't it? and no, edited clips won't do, Sayu has always been verbose and clips cut out a lot the clipnigger deems unimportant but that actually changes what she meant.
>>90266807If that's the case, I invite you to present the "UNCUT VOD" or at least try to explain why those anon are wrong. If not, you are just acting like a retard.
>>90266467Nta but from what I remember she was discussing the delays to her new model, someone in chat suggested people who commissioned after her but paid more were being prioritised, she just said something along the lines of "maybe that's true" - I don't recall her going off on a rant about it like some anons suggest but it's still not great particularly considering how close she was (and presumably still is) to Yuniiho. I think that's one of the major things I have an issue with when it comes to Sayu - she gets one-guyed too often and doesn't think before she opens her mouth.
>>90259924>>90261609She likes him more than you.
>>90261193How to archive membership streams?
>>90266866the burden of proof is on you, not me.
>>90267270great, another leaker I'll have to deal with later.
>>90264627>Quinn from no whereNta. You were making those Sayu hate thread from before. Don't play both sides and pretend you actually kept up with the stuff Sayu has been saying.
>>90267103You do know that the only requirement to play Genshin with her is to actually play the game, right?
>>90267327Nope, you’re the one saying those anons are wrong about "something", and you’re even implying the clips they’ve watched were taken out of context. So if you’re claiming that in the "UNCUT VOD" Sayu says something totally different, it’s on you to prove it, or at least explain what those anons got wrong and what you’re trying to say. If not, then by all means, keep acting like a retard
>>90267467The other requirement is her not disliking the person. She enjoys his presence.
>>90246873sayu is turning into locutus
>>90267396She deserves it. She keeps lying for the sake of pitybaiting. Such behavior should be exposed.
>>90267486no, I'm saying they can't prove their rrats without the uncut vod, and since they aren't willing to put the vod on gofile it might as well never have happened.
>>90267562Holy retard.
>>90267496thanks for proving this anon's point >>90259833 or mine, for that matter.
Someone find the tweet of her publicly apologizing for trashing her mama and walking it back after her mama gave her what for behind the scenes
>>90267558still no evidence of her lying, and unlike Sayu I'm not the forgiving type, and I have a special hatred for traitors.>>90267672that's still not the uncut vod, anon.
>>90267672I was just scouring archives for it.
>>90267696apologists like you are the reasons bad things keep happening to sayu and everybody laughs at her
>>90267731Yuni is a pro and went on to HoloLive.Sayu is a cunt and went on to a chinese scam NAOGood things happen to good people and bad things happen to bad people.
>>90267562And what I’m saying is that you can’t even prove those anons’ claims are rrats because you’re not willing to provide the "UNCUT VOD" or at least point out exactly what they got wrong. At this point, it’s just your word against theirs.Here’s what we know:>Sayu complained about Yunii giving preferential treatment to her other clients>Sayu realized she fucked up and later apologized to herIf there’s more to the story and you can back it up, then by all means, do it. After all, you are the one saying that the "UNCUT VOD" proves that those anons claim's are rrats. If not, just keep acting like a retard.
>>90267696You are such a retard. You have nothing to support your version of the story but completely refuse to believe general consensus just because you don't have 100% of it handed to you on silver platter. Are you new in this hobby? Past streams get scrapped all the time and not everything gets archived. Precisely for the purpose of hiding bad things people said because retarded idiots like you fall for that and believe things didn't happen just because you didn't personally experience them.
>>90267731KWAB
>>90267853>general consensusnice try samefag with a grudge
>>90267853>muh general consensusconcession accepted.
schizoknights deserve their name
>>90267968At this point they are not better than sisters. Ironic.
>1 minute between posts Kekkerino
How many other vtubers have publicly shittalked their mama and had to apologize for it later? Sayu is the only one I know.Yeah, she apologized, that's cool. Nobody cares.The issue is she said something she had to apologize for in the first place. Other people don't. Only Sayu. She is the problem.
>>90268000They became what they sought to destroy. A tale as old as time
>>90267835>Here’s what we know:>Sayu complained about Yunii giving preferential treatment to her other clients>Sayu realized she fucked up and later apologized to heryes, as opposed to "anons" saying>trashed her mama for not giving her special treatment and finishing her design fast enough>threatened her livelihood>she is willing to outright lie at timesno proof of those claims. quite interesting.
>>90268082accusing your mama of giving preferential treatment to other clients is one of the highest insults you can give an artist. It insults and attacks their professionalism.
>Sisters have to resort to samefag bump spam off cooldownPathetic.
>>90267898>>90267909If she hadn't spoken badly about Yuniiho, as is the general consensus, then why did she feel the need to tweet this? >>90267731I really don't hate Sayu but the fact some sincroknights refuse to acknowledge her mistakes and issues is incredibly fucking frustrating and is actually harming your oshi - because you've created an echo chamber in which she can do no wrong and everything is just antis, or nijisisters, or even Finana as one of you keeps schizophrenically claiming. It's just baffling behaviour and I'm beginning to think more and more that the majority of """sincroknights""" in these kinds of threads are actually falseflaggers trying to portray actual sincroknights as fucking retarded.
>muh clip>muh out of context>muh dramaniggers>muh uncut vodThe full yuniiho rant was clipped without cuts:>https://youtu.be/dnP5bIRfwq0?si=1YtZ5m6sqP3JxJRk&t=503
>>90268416this is worse than I remember Sayu is a sad sad girl
>>90268354Sincroknights are absolutely that schizo. It's just what naturally happens when a fanbase gets filtered over and over until only the most insane are left.
Anyone who goslings for her is at risk of marrying a single mother somewhere down the line. It's the same emotional grift.
>>90268416finally, and one claim was proven true. still>no threats>no outright lies
>>90268416>I'll be honest: Yuniiho made me a beautiful model...BUTnothing good will come after that "but", lets see how it plays out>...BUT there is so much more I want from that model :(>and that model would have started production so much earlier too, but a bunch of other people, you know, like Enviosity and other people...they cut in front (of me)jesus, well maybe it gets better>...because I know who's model she is making because she would make them on stream you know it's not a secret. but they cut in front (of me) and I got delayed like twice>you know I have a very expensive model, and I can't even get like a lot of the arms and other attachments for it. Like this model right here, this chibi model, it is WAY MORE ADVANCED than my full body model Yuniiho is making is gonna be *snickers to herself* which is really sad. It's really sad to me. My model doesn't feel like a priority. It feels like it is just another job (for Yuniiho). So i hurts my feelings honestly that Yuniiho has put me on the backburner. holy fucking christ
>>90268664The lies were on many different occasions you colossal retard.
>>90268880time to list them, and no, being wrong is not the same as lying.
>>90268799>Like this model right here, this chibi model, it is WAY MORE ADVANCED than my full body model Yuniiho is making is gonna be *snickers to herself* which is really sad.according to some, this is not "trashing her mama"it makes me so happy her mama is in hololive now and sayu is where she iskarma works in mysterious ways
>>90265713Are you newfag or something? Did you forget about the whole "priority" saga with yuniiho?
>>90268799she is a nasty woman
>>90268916>karma works in mysterious waysyet they still met up when Sayu went to Japan, and you? just seething on 4chan.
>>90268564There used to be a sincroknight who'd make rather long mass replies who always seemed fairly reasonable (he was also one of the /ss/ bakers iirc) but I've not seen him for a long time. I don't know whether he's stopped coming /here/, whether he's just stopped engaging, or whether he's no longer a sincroknight. I'm be very curious to know what he thinks about all that's happened in the past few months - I think the last time I spoke to him was after her advertising her friends dating app thing.
>>90269023that shows how gracious a human Yuni is. She meets up with Sayu and even previously talk Sayu out of a mental dark space. And how did Sayu repay her? Maybe Sayu could learn a thing or two about grace
>>90269036I'm still here, we moved to /corpo/ after she joined NOA. /ss/ just can't survive and /lig/ was always ass cancer.>>90269099Everyone in the fandom considers Yunii a hero, your attempts at driving a wedge between them is doomed to fail.
>>90268799i could understand this is she was an early 20s brat vtuber. those are life lessons we all learn in our early 20s. she is not that tho she should have known better
>>90268664I wasn't the one making those claims, but let me take a shot>no threatsBack during the subathon, she was saying she was in the red because of Niji, and hadn’t done her "real debut" yet because she wanted a top-quality model. Then she mentioned investing everything she had into Yunii’s model, so that’s probably where the "threats" claims come from. Maybe? >no outright liesI mean, I’ve personally caught her lying on twitter about dumb stuff, like why she privated certain VODs, but you don’t even need to dig that deep. The last time she talked about NOA was right after coming back from China. At that point, she said she was really disappointed and frustrated with them. Her fans took it as a clear signal she wasn’t going to join, and her silence on all the other drama felt like confirmation that she wasn’t involved. Then out of nowhere, she announced her debut with them, and here we are. And yeah, lying by omission is still lying.
>>90269215>Her fans took it as a clear signal she wasn’t going to join, and her silence on all the other drama felt like confirmation that she wasn’t involved.Every time this came up *I* said that she chose her words really carefully mostly for legal reasons and that I *believed* this meant her backing out, but that doesn't make her a liar, it just means I was wrong, and you taking my guess as a gospel is on you.
>>90269154I'm glad to see you've not left the board. We've discussed reasonably before (though obviously you'd just have to take my word on that) so can I ask your opinion on two things? First, on Sayu speaking fondly of Piprup. I can understand her being thankful towards someone who defends her but the way he treats chuubas who've done nothing wrong (like Matara, and like Froot - although I guess with the latter that's separate from Sayu) is appalling. Do you not think that's an issue? Second, what is your opinion about her joining NOA despite Quinn (the woman, not the irritating wigger) leaving her management role and suggesting there are issues?
I'm starting to think that Sayu's fanbase consists solely of teenagers at this point. All the reasonable adult people got gradually filtered out after so many issues over past two years. Everybody's breaking point was different, there was no big exodus but with time less and less people were able to keep putting up with her shit. Now only desperate teenagers remain - and that would explain why their discourse style is so similar to nijisisters - they're the same age, have exact same lack of emotional maturity and no understanding of what professional behavior means.
The point of anons mentioning yuniiho incident is not cast aspersions on their relationship. Everybody knows that they are friends.It's to give more context to her actual character and that her rants about artists or certain creators not working with her should be taken with certain considerations in mind. People are to quick to label her as a victim and hate on these nameless artists and creators. Well they aren't nameless all the time.
>>90269424First point: I think whatever chastisement he got from Sayu was in private, while the praise can go publicly. I admit I can't say anything neutral about those two, because I also despise both of them, but for reasons completely unrelated to Sayu.Second point: do you happen to read /news/? The anons there have dug into the whole thing really deeply, and found her to be an unreliable narrator. That doesn't excuse the termination letter of course, but I'm pretty sure that's one of the things Sayu chastised Metishon/NOA for.>>90269452I'm older than her.
>>90269350It makes her a liar because there's no way she went to China just to randomly try a mocap suit. The timing of her debut only makes sense if she had already signed with NOA or at least decided to join them when she met them in China. So yes, coming back and pretending she was still undecided and worried about them was all a lie. That's why she was choosing her words "carefully": she knew there was some drama going on, and she couldn't just ignore it, so she needed to stall for time. And please, don't give me the crap that they somehow convinced her later, because there was barely any real prep time between her trip to China and her debut to begin with.
>>90269614Yup. Yuniiho might continue to be Sayu's friend because she's a saint and also because they've known each other for a long time and that's why she's willing to forgive Sayu. However countless other artists, vtubers, people in this scene will see it and go>uhh, I don't want that to happen to me, I'd rather stay away from SayuAnd it's not just a single situation. Stuff like this keeps happening. It's no wonder that people avoid her and it has nothing to do with her being fired from Nijisanji. It has everything to do with her behaviors, her as a person.
>>90269722Absolutely. I have said this before on /ss/ and I will say it again, her biggest problem is and has always been indiscretion. She can't just go on saying crap that could be possibly completely false and not expect others to have second thoughts about working with her.Funny, they agreed with me back then. Now they will call me a sister.
>>90269669>Second point: do you happen to read /news/? The anons there have dug into the whole thing really deeply, and found her to be an unreliable narrator. Literally the first time that someone mentions this. Do you mind to explain this claim?
>>90269669Fair enough on the first point. I still personally think it's a bad look for her to praise him publicly given the things he's said repeatedly on Twitter about other chuubas though.>do you happen to read /news/?It's one of the generals I constantly have open on a tab along with my home general, and I've baked quite a few times. As far as I can remember the only thing calling into doubt her comments was someone who appeared twice that made vague comments about her being "a snake" and seemed to suggest some insider knowledge about ALVR (I presumed at the time it was a chuuba) but when pressed (by me) they refused to elaborate. Having said that there have been periods when I've been away for work and only very quickly scanned through past threads when I returned so it's possible I've missed what you're referring to. If you could give me a rough idea of when those things were posted I'd be interested to trawl through the archives.
>>90269720>there's no way she went to China just to randomly try a mocap suitNo shit sherlock. Timestamp is 1:55:45 in the VOD, I won't link it because she showed some selfies and those aren't allowed here.>>90270141>>90269973I'll take a look a bit later.
>>90270254it is a stream it is fine
>>90270254>No shit sherlock. Timestamp is 1:55:45 in the VOD, I won't link it because she showed some selfies and those aren't allowed here.It's a vtuber stream, you can link it you retard
>>90270312>>90270375I won't risk getting nuked over it, I'm pretty sure the 2 schizos ITT would be happy if all my posts disappeared.>【BACK FROM CHINA】PRETTY PICTURES AND UH, SOME ROUGH STUFF lolIt shouldn't be too hard to find.
>>90270468I'll do it myself then>https://www.youtube.com/live/nuntFv2XgGk?si=DikSR1v1RZ3EucrP&t=6945Anon, I have watched a couple of minutes, why is this relevant?
>>90270632Because she was running defense for them meaning she'd join?I think that's what than anon meant
>>90269669>/news/? The anons there have dug into the whole thing really deeply, and found her to be an unreliable narrator.I've seen this point brought up a couple of times however I haven't seen anything conclusive that would make me completely distrust anything Quinn says. It seemed to be more of "she did stupid shit like coming to 4chan therefore she's unreliable". Yeah, sure. She is unreliable. But is that enough to completely dismiss anything she says and claim she's wrong? I don't think so. Sayu herself is also very unreliable.
>>90270632pretty bad model ngl
>>90270632>why is this relevant?Because Sayu is both verbose and uses related stories as a framing device. That's why I demanded an unedited VOD above, because what most anons would think to be irrelevant IS actually relevant. Sure, sometimes it's not that easy to follow her, but this is a public VOD, you can analyze her words for as long as you need.>>90270736Yes, this is why context matters.Off topic from the current discussion but a phase beggar appears at 2:08:21 in twitch chat and she promptly told him off, I was so happy for that.
>>90270632https://youtu.be/nuntFv2XgGk?t=7485This seems like a better timestamp, this is probably where all the assumptions she wasn't joining came from.Now looking at this though, she sounds undecided
>>90270736I mean, my original point was that Sayu went to China to sign the contract and had already joined the company by the time she came back home. So, her trying to pretend she was still thinking about it and was disappointed with them was a lie. The timestamp of the VOD only supports this, so I don't know what that anon is trying to do
>>90270632i want to squeeze her tiny titties
>>90270917>spoilerCan someone explain why phasebeggars are everywhere? There was even one begging mouse to collab with pippa yesterday
>>90270970No, you cut important context.>>90270996>So, her trying to pretend she was still thinking about itShe wasn't pretending that.>and was disappointed with themYou clearly haven't watched any of it.>>90271088I wish I knew.
>>90246873Do ESLs exclusively watch this woman? I tried to parse through the thread but it's just a bunch of broken english and mild schizoposting.
>When Quinn came here to defend NOA and claimed that they aren't a black company>"based, she coming here means that she is trustworthy, I can respect that">When Quinn quit NOA, denounced them as a black company and said that she regretted getting anyone involved with them>"uuuuuh she came here, she is not trustworthy"
>>90271150>She wasn't pretending that.And you know that because...
>>90271158Anon, do you know when she streams usually? Evening/night for NA, morning for EU and afternoon for Asia.
>>90271243Because I watched this live and also re-watched it when I posted the timestamps.
>>90270802The only thing that makes me question Quinn's side of things is that although she compared it to ALVR (which she hated so much it was the reason for her coming /here/ to dispel a misconception that it and NOA were connected) and left her management position she as a chuuba is still part of NOA and retweeted the debuts. So I really don't know what the fuck is going on with her. I'd quite like her to come back (she did once) to answer questions but unfortunately there are too many horny retarded kids that'd rather bombard her with demands to post nudes.
>>90271278>Because I watched this live and also re-watched it when I posted the timestamps.No, that's not an answer. How do you know that she wasn't pretending?
I'd be crying too if I paid for a model and got that garbage.
>>90271331>How do you know that she wasn't pretending?I listened to the words she said.
>>90271150>She wasn't pretending that.She was. Vast majority of people took her words this way. Overwhelming sentiment was the relief that she most likely backed out of NOA.
>>90271543Wishful thinking often clouds people's judgement.
>>90271244The only thing I know about her is she is extremely unstable. In addition her fans try desperately to post her /here/ to try and garner some sympathy and viewers for her so she doesn't implode again next stream.
>>90271643Fact is, that's how people understood her and it happened for a reason - because she framed her words in a way which would give that impression.
>>90271698>she is extremely unstableUnfortunately true.>her fans try desperately to post her /here/ to try and garner some sympathyNo fan of hers posts her /here/ except for /ss/ (RIP), /corpo/ and /news/. She absolutely hates 4chan and most fans don't even come /here/ as a result.
>>90271643I kind of agree with this take. Her statements could have been taking either way and most anons immediately rushed to "she's backing out!"
Sayu is just an emotional vampire.
>>90271388I'll cut this conversation short because I know where this is going. You believe her unconditionally, no matter what she says or how little sense her actions make. Even if she were to say "blue" in that VOD and then claim she said "red" now, you’d still support her. The thing is, and I hope you realize this and aren’t just being purposefully obtuse, you can’t prove someone is not lying by simply claiming they’re telling the truth. You need facts to support your claims. And with Sayu, there’s never any facts, only blind trust.What I’m saying is that the timing of her debut, her model, her design, her genmates, and even their debut song only make sense if she had already joined by the time she came back home from China. So, it makes no sense for Sayu to come back and pretend she was frustrated with them and unsure of what to do next. Even if, for some reason, she was genuinely undecided at the time and changed her mind literally the very next day, she still chose not to tell anyone, letting her community believe she wasn’t going to join. And that was the general sentiment at the time, so don't give me that "wishful thinking" bullshit. You know Sayu has no filter and rants about anything and anyone. She didn’t waste any time saying she was about to join a company (the same day everything got leaked, by the way, and I don't think that was a coincidence), so it’s hard for me to believe that, after implying she was backing out or at least postponing her decision, she decided to stop talking about NOA for the following months while ignoring dramas like Quinn quitting. No, Sayu shut the fuck up for a reason. And after seeing her rant the other day, it's clear she knew people would judge her decision, so she just decided to keep it to herself.
>>90270917how much does it make sayu mald that phase is friends with mint and dokibird
>>90271825>>90272178bingo
>>90255239The /vt/ board, somewhat4chan as a whole, noAlso keep in mind Sayu doesn't come here as often as Millie does
>>90271088it is mostly just Pippafags. They are feral and have no manners or tact.also makes it funny because Pippa is notorious terrible in collabs that aren't with her comfort zone friends. She shrinks big time when in the presence of high level vtubers
>>90272203mint only cares about lia and i don't think dokibird cares about anybody in phase outside of if they can provide bodies for her events
>>90272178>Even if she were to say "blue" in that VOD and then claim she said "red" now, you’d still support her.Not at all. Remember the "hacking incident" when fans were concerned and she sperged out? I didn't defend her then, and the shit she said in discord was worse than what the public got to see on twatter. Not a big deal to me personally, women have woman moments.>and pretend she was frustrated with themShe was frustrated with specific issues, not in general.>letting her community believe she wasn’t going to join.She doesn't police us as heavily as you think. There're some rules but within that we are free to discuss anything.>that was the general sentiment at the timeHere, yes, but there are a total of 5 /here/ SincroKnights, we aren't a representative sample.>She didn’t waste any time saying she was about to join a companyWhy do you think I mentioned the phase beggar earlier? Everyone was getting sick and tired of both the vshojo beggars and the phase beggars, and the news made them both fuck off and show their true colors. muh chynah>>90272291>Also keep in mind Sayu doesn't come here as oftenI might have caught her self-hating in /corpo/ once, but that's just a pet rrat of mine without any evidence so I won't even bother quoting it.
>>90270917>I'm not interested in Phase Connect5 seconds later>we (me and Phase Connect) have already talkedwhich is it? if you were not interested, you wouldn't even talk business with them to begin with
Any good lewds of her swimsuit model?
>>90272775both things are true. from what I understand>Sayu had interest>Phase had interest>Phase made her a firm offer that was not up to whatever her expectations were>Sayu is no longer interested
>>90269036>There used to be a sincroknight who'd make rather long mass replies who always seemed fairly reasonablehe was fucking annoying
>>90272827@seion_alter has some great ones, but I don't use Patreon so I haven't seen them uncensored.
>>90272865Phase would've been perfect for her desu. They know how to handle mentally unstable hags.
>>90272735>Not at all. Remember the "hacking incident" when fans were concerned and she sperged out? I didn't defend her then, and the shit she said in discord was worse than what the public got to see on twatter. Not a big deal to me personally, women have woman moments.Then I honestly don't understand why you can't admit that she willingly stayed silent about NOA and let everyone think whatever they wanted because she didn’t want to be upfront about it>She was frustrated with specific issues, not in general.Specific issues so important that made her claim that she was thinking about if she was really going to join the company >She doesn't police us as heavily as you think. There're some rules but within that we are free to discuss anything.>Here, yes, but there are a total of 5 /here/ SincroKnights, we aren't a representative sample.>Why do you think I mentioned the phase beggar earlier? Everyone was getting sick and tired of both the vshojo beggars and the phase beggars,And this is exactly the kind of thing I’m talking about. Sayu is somehow oblivious to the effect her words have on people, but at the same time, she was aware that everyone was tired of the... Vshojo beggars? And that’s why she stopped talking about NOA after saying she didn’t know if she wanted to join? Because she didn’t want more Phase beggars? What?Anon, you can keep making all the mental gymnastics you want, but the simplest explanation is that Sayu had already decided to join NOA, there was drama going on at the time, and she didn’t want to be involved, so she chose to stay quiet about the deal until her debut. I’m not even blaming her for it, it was probably the smartest thing she did all year. The issue is, she took advantage of the trust her community had in her, and it's a clear pattern But again, you're free to think that somehow she randomly decided to join after Quinn quit, and in barely a month, got a model and recorded their debut song.
>>90273649For the "low" price of >50% of everything>losing her IP like Yuri>barely delivered scam "merch" instead of what we currently have>sudden uptake in annoying racist faggots and mandatory idpol bullshityeah no thanks.
>>90273649>They know how to handle mentally unstable hagsNo, no they don't. Sayu is the genuine artifact that "le heckin menhera sad girls dizzy, clara etc" claim to be.She would last no longer than 1-year in Phase and not renew.Some girls can be rehabilitated because of their age and inexperience and have to be coachable, Sayu is not that.
>>90273863To be fair, considering that NOA isn't giving her any kind of promotion (she's not even on the website) and that her numbers haven't changed in the slightest, maybe she would have fared better with Phase, even if she had to give them a cut of her donations
Notice how in these thread theres always one lawyer-like poster that defends Sayu religiously. Is it her or one of her discord cucks?
>>90273730>because she didn’t want to be upfront about itYou're ascribing malintent when this was almost certainly a contractual thing. Did you see any of the Holo Justice chuubas celebrating their acceptance on their PL? No, they just graduated and left everyone in the dark, including their chuuba friends. Not talking about this kind of stuff is normal.>that made her claim that she was thinking about if she was really going to join the companyTimestamp and quote the sentences that make you believe this, I'm certain you misunderstand her words.>Sayu is somehow oblivious to the effect her words have on peopleNot at all, she's painfully aware of this, yet still can't accept it fully, that's why she's coping this hard to this day. I never claimed her to be perfect, her faults make her more relatable, actually. Just ask this fag >>90273188 how he feels about me.>she took advantage of the trust her community had in herIn what way? >But again, you're free to think that somehow she randomly decided to join after Quinn quitYou're literally putting words in my mouth.>>90273890Sayu would be Yuri'd, and she's well aware of it.>>90274181She didn't join NOA for the nooombers, she joined them for access. Access to loyal genmates she hand picked, access to music-related stuff, Metishon's 3D tech, and of course, even more ties to MiHoYo.>>90274190>lawyer-like posterI'll take that as a compliment, despite knowing you didn't intend it to be one.
>>90274181Phase as a whole has not really grown this year. For the most part they are the same size they were in December 2023. They ended 2023 hot, began to cool off in February, got hot again in the summer with some of their 3D concerts, and now cooled off.Phase are what they are and I think they hit their ceiling (which is still good they do cool things and are out there, but it is not worth it for a girl of Sayu's size and experience)She would be better off remaining indie.
>>90274515>Not talking about this kind of stuff is normal.Except she talked about it the moment the leak happened while half of 4chan was still doubting if it's even true, she went ahead and confirmed she's joining a corpo as her name was getting scrapped from NOA channel for the time being.>Timestamp and quote the sentences that make you believe this, I'm certain you misunderstand her words.Anon, pretty much everyone took her words this way. Are you really trying to play this game again after your fellow schizoknight got btfo'd about yuniiho earlier in this thread?
>>90273890probably agree with this. phase has tard wrangled some legit timebombs in pippa lia and rie (they couldn't save yuri; still 3/4 not bad) but with most of those they were younger and could be corrected -or- they eventually matured and grew out of the edgy phase. also phase has not made any super high risk hires since the first invaders.sayu is set in her ways for better or worse.
>>90275177>as her name was getting scrapped from NOA channel for the time being.Guess why Quinn got fired from that position.>pretty much everyone took her words this way>your fellow schizoknightConcession accepted.
>>90275387I'd say she's getting worse from staying in an echo chamber, her meltdown on sub account about joining CN was worse than any dear diary posts in previous months.>>90275434There's no concession retard, there's direct proof of this game already not working. You're completely delusional.
>>90275538Of course it's (you).
>>90275955You recognizing a person doesn't change the fact you don't have an argument and are just trying to deflect from inconvenient reality.
>>90274515>You're ascribing malintent when this was almost certainly a contractual thing. Did you see any of the Holo Justice chuubas celebrating their acceptance on their PL? No, they just graduated and left everyone in the dark, including their chuuba friends. Not talking about this kind of stuff is normal.>malintent Not at all, I’m saying it was the smart thing to do. But at the same time, it was pretty messed up given the context. Also, why are you suddenly pretending that Sayu didn’t announce she was about to join a company, explain how her lawyer was drafting the contract, and then vlog her trip to meet them where she showed off the motion capture suit she tried and explained the kind of things they discussed? For crying out loud, you’re the one who gave us the timestamps. You can’t suddenly act like it’s perfectly normal for Sayu to shut up the very next day after giving us all those details.>Timestamp and quote the sentences that make you believe this, I'm certain you misunderstand her words.Pass. Let me quote myself from back in the day instead: >>82716698>"I'm like working with this company">"I want to work with you guys, you guys have a lot of potential">"They are quick to learn things, and they are very nice people">"I don't want to say it's too late...">"Stuff can get better">"I'm waiting to see how things go">"We'll see how things turn out">"I'm tired of believing in new opportunities (...) They are already established in one market (...) They aren't stupid (...) So we will see">"In one hand, I'm very frustrated, but on the other, it is what it is, and I don't care too much"It’s funny because, even back then, I suspected that Sayu had already joined or at least wanted to join, so I pointed out that none of her statements outright said she wasn’t joining, and that the anons who believed otherwise were just engaging in wishful thinking. The thing is, that logic cuts both ways: she never explicitly said she was joining either. She was, yet again, being deliberately unclear and claiming to still be undecided. So, if you’re telling me now that she had already decided to join, then she lied. And if she changed her mind the next day and chose never to talk about it again until her debut, then she lied by omission>Not at all, she's painfully aware of this, yet still can't accept it fully, that's why she's coping this hard to this day. Okay, so she’s fully aware of the impact her words have on people, and she knew exactly what her fans would think when she said she was "waiting to see how things go" after complaining about NOA. Got it. Thanks.>In what way? Because, at the very least, she got a good amount of donations to cheer her up after everyone assumed she had backed out or that at the very least things were going wrong. You know very well she spent a good part of the year crying about how lonely she felt, how no one wanted her, and how happy she was that NOA was interested in her and even agreed to meet her terms. Her fans were more than ready to step up their support to balance out the supposed NOA deal falling through>You're literally putting words in my mouth.No, I’m just ridiculing your arguments. Timing-wise, the only thing that makes sense is that Sayu joined the company around the time of her trip to China. But then we’re supposed to believe she never tried to claim she was undecided about joining? That’s insane and outright delusional.
>>90276475You pretending I don't have an argument doesn't make it true. The fact that you're a doxxnigger who frequents TVA only makes your "case" worse.
>>90276721Your'e the one who responded to me with personal attacks and nothing else after I was discussing normally.I'm not a doxxnigger.I don't even know what TVA is.You're such a mentally ill schizo, holy fuck.
>>90276681>You can’t suddenly act like it’s perfectly normal for Sayu to shut up the very next day after giving us all those details.I never touched on that, actually.>and claiming to still be undecided. Your own quote disproves you, because you deliberately took a specific issue out of context to generalize it on the whole corpo. This is precisely why I always insist on unedited and uncut footage instead of clip bullshit.> and she knew exactly what her fans would think when she said she was "waiting to see how things go" after complaining about NOA.Twisting my words again, I see. I was referring to her sometimes brash nature alienating people, just to be clear.>she got a good amount of donations to cheer her up after everyone assumed she had backed out or that at the very least things were going wrong.This is the biggest reach I've seen ITT, unless you can actually point to what you're talking about. If it's the birthday subathon, don't even bother responding to me again.>No, I’m just ridiculing your arguments.You're failing.>>90277084I know exactly where the screenshots from her private account were first posted, and by you re-posting it over and over again you're just digging your own grave even deeper.>I'm not a doxxnigger.>I don't even know what TVA is.AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAABut unlike you I don't have an account there nor did I ever use the clear net, so your buddy proctor can't doxx me.
>>90277292>screenshots from her private account were first posted, and by you re-posting it over and over againWhat the fuck are you talking about, schizo?>But unlike you I don't have an account there nor did I ever use the clear net, so your buddy proctor can't doxx me.What the fuck are you talking about, schizo?
I don't believe for a single second the ultra leftist Californian has a fanbase on 4chan.Sayu threads are all made by her cuck discord.
>>90277413Weren't they the ones that spread the deleted Quinn vod on that drama reddit
>>90277364>feigns ignoranceRun along.>>90277413>muh leftistsenpai, gomenne <3
>>90277779You are truly mindbroken.
>>90277833What are you gonna do about it?
>>90277292>I never touched on that, actually.>"Did you see any of the Holo Justice chuubas celebrating their acceptance on their PL? No, they just graduated and left everyone in the dark, including their chuuba friends. Not talking about this kind of stuff is normal."Anon, are you... are you a retard? >Your own quote disproves you, because you deliberately took a specific issue out of context to generalize it on the whole corpo. This is precisely why I always insist on unedited and uncut footage instead of clip bullshit.What the fuck are you even talking about? Please, elaborate, because I honestly don’t understand what you’re implying I did. My whole point has always been that Sayu claimed she was undecided about joining or not, and now you’re suddenly fixating on this "specific issue" as if I’m somehow taking it out of context.Sayu's quotes are right there, so please, go ahead and keep pretending she was perfectly clear about wanting to join NOA or that she had already signed with them. I guess literally everyone else is a fucking idiot who misunderstood every single one of her statements.>Twisting my words again, I see. I was referring to her sometimes brash nature alienating people, just to be clear.I know what you’re referring to. I also know that you keep shifting the goalposts whenever things get inconvenient for you. Want to talk about Sayu’s brash nature now? That's great, but we were discussing how she’s supposedly oblivious to the impact of her words on her fans, regarding the topic of NOA. If you’re now agreeing that she knows exactly what she’s doing, then congratulations: you’ve just admitted my original point was correct.>This is the biggest reach I've seen ITT, unless you can actually point to what you're talking about. If it's the birthday subathon, don't even bother responding to me again.I’m giving you an example of how she takes advantage of her community’s trust, just like you asked. Anon, I literally gave you the context. I’m not saying she does it maliciously, but she is fully aware of the impact her words have. Pretending she’s somehow oblivious to the way her fans rally to cheer her up is insane.>You're failing.I don’t think so, considering you’re still deflecting everything by claiming stuff like "It’s out of context", or whining about uncut VODs, or randomly bringing up Sayu’s brashness, or accusing me of putting words in your mouth. All without making a single argument worth a shit.Anon, quoting everything doesn’t mean you know how to argue. In fact, since you haven’t been able to refute anything and keep contradicting yourself, I’d suggest you stop doing it and just focus on one point at a time. You’re clearly out of your depth here. Or even better, do us both a favor and just shut the fuck up, because this is pointless.>>90277833>You are truly mindbroken.And I have to agree with this anon. You are mindbroken (and delusional).
>>90278702>Anon, are you... are you a retard?You're conflating related but still different things.>What the fuck are you even talking about?You claimed to be so knowledgeable about what happened around NOA... up until now, when it's more convenient to feign ignorance. It's obvious she referred to a firing.>My whole point has always been that Sayu claimed she was undecided about joining or notWhich I just refuted.>Sayu's quotes are right thereMissing context, of course, which has been my point all along. The VOD has auto-generated transcript BTW.>how she’s supposedly oblivious to the impact of her words on her fans, regarding the topic of NOANo, I'm talking about her brash nature alienating her from other creators and artists. Scroll up in case you missed it.>I’m giving you an example of how she takes advantage of her community’s trustI didn't ask how, I asked when. As I said, if you're referring to her subathon, then you just lost the argument, because even I went out of my way to spend money on her birthday BECAUSE it was her birthday.>by claiming stuff like "It’s out of context"I gave the proper timestamp where her point actually starts with regard to NOA.>or whining about uncut VODsDeath to all clippers.>or accusing me of putting words in your mouth.You still keep doing it.>Or even better, do us both a favor and just shut the fuck up, because this is pointless.Concession accepted.
Jesus christ. How is this thread still alive? Did the mint thing get the sisters uppity or something? There's a ton of sayu threads everywhere again.
>>90280122what mint thing?
>>90280169Pomu thing, to be exact.
>>90280122Anon, this isn't 2023 anymore. Sisters mostly died out and those who still exist don't care about Sayu anymore.The threads are results of Sayu's own actions. She keeps fighting with people now more than she was beating Kyo's sorry ass as Zaion.
>>90280268ogey sister
>>90280253what pomu thing?
>>90280338Read the thread retard. Or just fuck off if you're not gonna do that.
>>90280426this >>90259588
>>90279495Let's make this quick, because this is pointless and I'm not playing on keep entertaining your delusions:>You're conflating related but still different things.You’re the one who said that Sayu shutting up about these things is normal and gave the example of Justice, all while ignoring that Sayu told her community everything until the moment she showed doubts about whether she was going to join or not.>You claimed to be so knowledgeable about what happened around NOA... up until now, when it's more convenient to feign ignorance. It's obvious she referred to a firing.>Which I just refuted.>Missing context, of course, which has been my point all along. The VOD has auto-generated transcript BTW.First, I never claimed to be knowledgeable about anything, so it’s weird you’re making that projection now (and it's pretty funny, that says a lot about you). Second, again, my point is that Sayu was claiming she had doubts about joining. That’s the whole point. It doesn’t matter if she had doubts because someone got fired, she saw something she didn’t like while trying their mocap suits, or they simply didn’t have her favorite brand of donuts in their office. The point is, and always has been, that Sayu expressed doubts about joining, and now you’re suddenly bringing this "thing" that I (and everyone else, it looks like) took out of context. Anon, you haven’t refuted anything. In fact, I don’t even think you understand what you’re trying to argue anymore.>No, I'm talking about her brash nature alienating her from other creators and artists. Scroll up in case you missed it.And I told you I was talking about a different thing. >I didn't ask how, I asked when. As I said, if you're referring to her subathon, then you just lost the argument, because even I went out of my way to spend money on her birthday BECAUSE it was her birthday.And I did that. I gave you the whole context. Anon, keep the focus: this is about NOA. The whole point is about NOA. The subathon was another topic. Please, make an effort to keep up. >I gave the proper timestamp where her point actually starts with regard to NOA.>Death to all clippers.>You still keep doing it.>Concession accepted.Anon, I honestly don’t know if you’re being retarded on purpose, or maybe you just don’t know how to read. Or maybe you simply don’t want to. The thing is, this has gotten ridiculously out of hand, and there’s no point in trying to keep arguing in good faith if you’re just going to keep refusing to actually read what I’m saying or answer back without drowning in your own delusions about what I’m even arguing.Anyway, I’m done. Have a good day and enjoy your delusions.
>>90280564now type this without crying
>>90280564You lasted long anon. Kudos for patience.>In fact, I don’t even think you understand what you’re trying to argue anymore.I'd assume the same. His replies gradually fell apart to the point where there was no longer any sense in them.
>>90280564>Let's make this quick, because this is pointlessAccepting defeat right out of the gate. Why did you even bother with the rest?>that Sayu told her community everythingNo, she didn't. I was the dedicated /ss/ baker this year until our general died, I keep track of my oshi. It was the 4chan leak and fucking sky rainpuff spreading it around, Sayu didn't name them until much, much later.>and now you’re suddenly bringing this "thing"You didn't even watch the VOD from the point I posted until at least till she told the phase beggar off and it shows.>The whole point is about NOA.Yet you failed to point out when exactly this supposed surge in donations happened. Again, the subathon doesn't count.>and there’s no point in tryingYet you're still here.>>90280854Nice samefag from a different device with a separate IP address, except you forgot to not use reddit spacing when you just replied to yourself.>>90280628He can't, he's been nuked.
>>90281192You have no idea what reddit spacing is, schizo.
>>90281267Keep crying on 4chan, retard.
>>90280854>>90280564>>90281267You are redditspacing thoughbeit.
>>90281594That's not reddit spacing, retarded newfag. It's making the post readable.This >>90254211 is reddit spacing.
>>90281725>reddit spaces again
>>90281821Mindbroken retard.
>>90281725>That's not reddit spacing>proceeds to reddit space
>>90282022Separating two different points isn't reddit spacing, retarded newfag.
>Pokemon Fusion is back, oh boy>tune in>she is rantingOk>next stream>she is ranting againOk
>>90282660>Pokemon Fusion is back, oh boyDon't see it.
>>90284370because she privated the VOD until she gets to remove _that_ part.
>>90284583Ah, I misunderstood the>is back
It’s hot when she gets pouty and chews out chat. You don’t get it just move on
>>90284611She had that waiting room up since 2nd of September, that's what anon meant by it being back, I think.
lol
>>90286020
>>90248577>Then she went melty and yap about stepping on graves back when she's a kid and what's her grave mottos going to be, those who stayed in the strim knowsshe and hex would get along well...
