its so over
>>90265807yeah its over
guys, what's our cope?
>>90265807...
>>902658072 more weeks
>>90265807Shiori isn't on there either though.
>>90265995Oh no
>>90265807Wait, what? Really?That doesn't make sense though. Even if she wanted to leave, they'd still have merch rights for the character. Why remove her?
>>90266058Peak sloppa
>>90265807Yes, because she's not in the project? What even is this? Are you expecting to see a picture of a bottle of ketchup when you buy a toblerone themed shirt?
>>90266077People are saying it's because the shirt is for the eurobeat album which gura wasn't on.
>>90265807??? it makes sense to remove the people who werent involved in the thing they are advertising no?
>>90266093Right?kek, sisters are so pathetic.
>>90265807goombus utterly MINDBROKE you.
Gura being on the sample merch can only mean that she was supposed to be part of the album until last minute. Why else would they commission a design with Gura and get a sample of it?
>>90266077>That doesn't make sense though.They fucked up the original merch, Gura wasn't even supposed to be there because she's not on the album this merch is related to. OP is deliberately baiting, though the intern phrased it ambiguously too.
>>90266104This is the most logical conclusion, but schizo chumbuds will still refute it somehow.
>>90265807this is from the eurobeat album retarded fucks
>>90265807You mentioned Gura again...you just doomed another Niji...
>it's overit's funny>nothingburgerit's funny
>>90266341>doomed
>>90266320yesbut tell me why they have art of gura for it?could it be that she was supposed to be on the project but chose to slack off?something big will happen, you will see, just wait two more weeks
>>90266192>Message Gura >Hey Gura, do you wanna be on the Eurobeat remix collab thing>6 weeks later: "ok yeah sure">A month later, remember that Full Color doesn't exist>Oh shit we have to remove her now since her song can't be thereThey probably JUST heard back from Gura to confirm and revise this. The power of 600 employees.
>>90266405Yeah sure. Now fuck off.
>>90266405I was going to reply seriously but in the middle of typing I realized how retarded you are
>>90266421damn, wish I could wait 6 weeks to reply to work related emails
>>90266405because they probably commissioned an art for the entirety of the branch? Adding 2 more people to the commission would hardly make a difference. If there were 10 other talents that were not included and only gura had an art while the other 9 didn't then you're on to something. You're just trying to build a sandcastle with a single grain of sand right now.
>>90265807OG t-shirt because OP is a fag as usual
>>90265807lol it's overWho is the biggest chuuba? And I mean globally accepted, not a chuuba only popular in bugland.
>>90267012Pekora.
>>90266989>The design is still under development. The actual product may differ.Woah
>>90265807I felt something was wrong when they removed her when she already had a song done by the artist. if Gura suddenly disappears from the up coming racing event ring the alarms.>>90266270You think everyone who points obvious stuff like this out or makes Gura hates thread is a Chumbud? Are you ill? People were saying Dragoons were insane for thinking something was wrong with Selen.
>>90265807this is proof of something.
>>90267189>up coming racing eventThis is why nobody takes you seriously btw.
>>90265807It’s astounding that a company as big as Cover still makes mistakes like this. Do they not have any quality assurance staff to make sure only the participating talents are on the merch?
>>90266152AAAIEEE
>"Gura are going to do a minimum effort and sing just one song?">"Gamlic beb">"Fuck.. we have to remove her from the merch now.."
>>90267378>nijien on an incline
Are there any implications for this aside from the unlikely "SHE'S LEAVING"?
>>90265807Gura is actually fucking dead. Not figuratively dead either but literally deceased and buried 6 feet in the ground. WAKE UP SHEEPLE
>>90267756gawr gura the character is dead, in minecraft
>>90265807but why tho
>>90266192>Gura being on the sample merch can only mean that she was supposed to be part of the album until last minute. Why else would they commission a design with Gura and get a sample of it?They expected Gura to join the eurobeat remix event the same way that management expected her to shill her anniversary merch. Cover is doing their best to act like HoloEN is okay but whatever caused Ame to leave is definitely causing some behind the scenes fights. That would explain why her plushie wasn't restocked and management refusing to work on the Full Color MV.
>>90268105She wasn’t a part of the event and she was mistakenly added to the merch. This is Cover correcting their mistake
>>90267706i noticed too lmao, i guess the drama is starting to wear off
>>90268183I can't wait to hear the dirt she pulls out. I think it will make the whole Doki situation look like a mutual disagreement
>>90268200at least it didn't involve the japanese government this time!
>>90267066hahahahaha, no she can't fill the shoes. She is just JP friendly, but too ESL for international market
>>90267012FWMC
>>90268330they're only popular with literal children
>>90268444teletubbies with tits
>>90268444Cry about it. They're the biggest ones out there right now.
>>90268444based trips and trve, cocomelon aah stream fr
>>90268330they need to be normie friendly anon, otherwise thry are not useful to increase the audience
>>90265807Oh no no no chumkeks don't look
>>90267012i guess mori but she'll always have haters for being a cringe white girl rapper so theres that
>>90268674>criticizes FWMC for being content for children>talks like a literal childYou should tune in one of their streams then
>>90268637More like the biggest FLOPS amirite bros
>>90267066Based
Whatever happened to Full Color anyways?
>>90268934covid
i hope gura isn't actually dead
>>90268291False.
>>9026844460% 25-44yo audience.
>>90269011the literal manchildren, yes
>>90265807wtf. ame is on there though she didn't part take in it?
>>90268183Both Gura and Kronii's original songs were delayed more than a year. Kronii's finally gets released, and less than a month later its part of this album with a euromix and artwork ready to go. Gura's was probably also ready to go, but since the original version didn't get released in time, they pulled the remix from the album. Hence the artwork change getting missed. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
>>90269088>ame is on there though she didn't part take in it?phasecord isn't sending their best
>>90268260keep waiting. the only thing you're going to get is ex-holostars whining.
>>90269088A being even more lowly than a thumbnail reader has arrived...
It's happening
>dramafags dont even know this shirt is about the eurobeat remix album>gura doesnt have a track so she isnt on the shirtyou guys are a bunch of fucking retards
>>90270213I agree, but so is cover for fucking it up first
>>90270298everyone is a retard except me.
watch streams
>>90269011They are manchildren (Im the manchildren)
>>90270298Cover fucked up by delaying Full Color. The art was more than likely commissioned months ago with the expectation that by then the song would be out but that didn't happen and without the actual release there can't be an eurobeat remix (which likely already exist) so they had to scramble to get Gura out of it because of their fuck up.
>be so popular you were put on an album you're not even in
They could have easily just added the existing Reflect remix to the album. It was made by the same guy.
>>90268183>They expected Gura to join the eurobeat remix eventAnd then they realized Gura's only single got an Eurobeat remix 2 years ago. Only single, you know, because management refuses to let her release another.
>>90271732>Only single, you know, because management refuses to let her release another.uuuuh no, it's because she's a lazy sack of shit who can't do her job correctly
>>90272064why don't they fire her then
>>90272084Because firing Gura would require Cover to explain why and remember what happened when AnyColor fired Selen and tried to explain why.
>>90267303always the usual suspects
I do wonder what she spends her time actually doing, but from the outside it seems like a wonderful deal in terms of the money she must make.
The only thing about Gura's situation that perplexes me is full color. Like, something has to have gone seriously wrong somewhere
>>90270949Reflect wasn't made on commission and there's likely some legal bullshit that makes that a pain in the ass if not impossible.
>>90267066>>90267012It's cookieswirlc and it's not even close.
>>90269526>rebellion is there>shiori is not
>>90272345Kronii's original from CtW also took over a year to release and God know how long it'll take for the Moom and Fauna original from BD.
>>90266077Employees don't have any rights to the character. When they leave they cannot keep on creating merch of the character independent of Hololive, hence they don't have the rights. They get a share of the revenue per contracts bound up with their employment.
>>90272410Yeah but Kronii is always in a power struggle with management behind the scenes. Remember the outfit? it's expected for Kronii.
>>90272407Nerissa and FWMC both have their own original remixes so it was either Biboo or Shiori to represent Rebellion and only one of them was present for the race so it was an easy choice.>>90272541And Gura also struggled to get her daki approved.
>>90265807She's not in the actual artwork for eurobeat remixes. Previous tweet featuring merch was simply outdated. Her song was nor remixed so why should she be on a merch specifically about eurobeat remixes? Simple as that.
>>90272541Oh hello there outfitschizo, rare to see you outside a homo thread
Finally
>>90272599Justice is there as a whole unit even if above below is the only song. Shiori was probably "punished" (I use the word loosely) for refusing to do something.
>>90266270Yes
>>90272631I have no idea who you think I am.
[SPOILER]finally[/spoiler]
>>90265807oh no no no no no noooooooooooooooo no no no no
>>90272713Anon ALL of Justice was present for the race. There's no "punishment", this isn't Nijisanji, Shiori just wasn't interested in the event and she doesn't have an original beyond the Advent ones so she wasn't included otherwise she would likely be on the keyart like Watson is (and Gura originally).
>>90272833NOTHING IS WRONG WITH HOLOEN YOU FILTHY NIJINIGGER
>>90272833>bunch of random holo events that were already explained in the past>random homo mention3/4 soon, homobeggar.
>>90266345Yep.
>>90272833>>Vesper gets a 2.0 model redesign but less than a week later him and Magni vanish followed by sudden graduationsThis is still one of the shittiest things a holo vtuber ever did.
>>90269526soo...where is Shiori? did they fucked up again kek?
he cant keep getting away with this
>>90272833Yeah, hololive has a problem with management. And it's puzzling. Maybe we can chuck it up to "japanese business mentality" or some shit like that. But before modern times we could say that EN girls are ignored because COVER is just understaffed, small indie company, you see, one or two managers in charge of the whole branch can't do everything!Now there's almost a thousand people working at COVER, and they keep hiring, but management is still so fucking bad. Now we can say that oh, they got too big too fast! There's too many people, actually, important stuff just gets lost in the endless stream of other bureaucratic crap.I don't know. That part of Altare's stream, where he openly criticizes management and is understandably pissed off, I just keep remembering it. It's not right, it shouldn't be like this. He talked about it, but what else happened? To him? To other guys? To girls? One can only speculate, breed rrats in his head.
>>90273379Not that bad, at least he showed it off, unlike Kira that graduated and his fans had to see the new outfit in a tweet.
>>90273709Nobody cares about that ultra pushed faggot.
>>90273384They only made a Biboo illustration for the Rebellion remix and there is no other Shiori song, next retarded question?
>>90273709Holoen has a problem with the management. And I am not even sure how real it is. Like, take perms. On one, it's absolutely a retarded system that cover can't handle which leads to frustrations because whoever is in charge of perms can't do its job. On the other hand, does playing a specific game on-stream matter so much that you quit over it?
>>90273931> does playing a specific game on-stream matter so much that you quit over it?I'm sure it adds up. Small irritations like that, year after year, trying to improve things on your end, suggesting something better, being ignored every time, year after year.They're playing it very safe these days. I remember how tenshi or FBK said Coco would absolutely despise current Hololive, where any step out of the line should be discussed, approved by 3 departments and scheduled 6 months in advance.
>>90265807chumbuds thoughts?
I don't want to partake in the shitpost or sound alarmist but this just adds up to the huge pile off rrats. Not saying it's over but it has the symptoms of an owari da.
>>90265807Gura isn't the only one at fault. Fuck cover for not telling us what's going on.
>>90268215Now its HoloEN and HomoEN's turn to be feeding all the drama, karma's a bitch kek.
>>90265807op is a tranny as always >>90266989
>>90275462His claim is true though?
>>90266077Because she wasn’t slated to participate in the event that the shirt was tied to (Mumei was initially going to be part of it, but it turned out they scheduled it when she has classes).>>90266270I don’t think it’s chumbuds claiming otherwise.
>>90265807Nice link
>>90266989>Thinking the OP is not a twatter faggot who saw the announcement and jumped here to faggot around instead of making a good post.At least you provided context.
>>90273709>That part of Altare's stream, where he openly criticizes management and is understandably pissed off, I just keep remembering it. It's not right, it shouldn't be like this.Unicorns will say that it doesn't matter but Holostars getting treated that badly would indicate that management does the same thing to Hololive. If the EN girls were having their complaints sent directly into the trash that would explain why fights so often escalate. Altare chose a 3D suit issue he could talk about but there is a lot of stuff they can't mention since it's covered by their NDA.
>>90274299Based kson's a whore and deserved itJudging from dooby collabing with that whore Bao, everyone being bullied by management is a whore who deserves it
>>90265807jesus christ this is my 9/11
>>90270476gura doesn't stream
>>90282378Then watch someone who does.
>>90265807It's over. also that design sucks, no one would wear that on public except those fatass weeb
>>90265807Mint calls out niji about her 3D and we have a whole 24 hours worth of bait threads. Amazing. How do I get in on the steam gift card train? Just say I cut off my dick?
>>90266093This
>>90274299Fuck youFubuki and Kanata never say that piece of shit even in her member stream.
>>90281227Chink hands wrote this post
>>90274299Fubuki never say it and Towa just mention this after dinner with Coco but not what your bullshit. KYS
>>90265807This thread will age horribly when Gura streams tomorrow or Thursday
>>90268260Obvious sisterhood aside, it would take an actually successful attempt or outright homicide for it to escalate that much.Doki's problems with management were nothing special. Pomu has gone through the same, she just didn't have ambition on Selen's level. It's the bullying and Niji's actions afterwards that made the whole thing stand out.
>>90293854she's not streaming before January. these are the holidays. she's not going to work.
>>90295016>It's the bullying and Niji's actions afterwards that made the whole thing stand out.Exactly
Why do you guys cares if a vtuber that doesn't stream graduates or not? The result is the same either way.
>>90266192Yeah people are ignoring this and deflecting to Shiori wasn't in it etc
>>90265807ahh gura didnt renew contract I see
>>90265807>Gura and Shiori did not participate>both are not on the artworkOMG THIS MEANS GURA GRADUATION CONFIRMED!!!!111!
>>90297661Some people honestly think Gura leaving would somehow kill hololive Those same people thought coco and ame leaving would kill hololive
>>90300386That because of Coco killed all rrat from /vt/ by herself. Coco never want Hololive to be killed in the first place.She want save
The sequence of events was pretty obviously:>Artist asked to make art for every member because they haven't finalized what's going to be on the album yet>Shirt graphic for preview is also made before track list is known>When track list is finalized and Gura's not in any song on it, she's cut from all of the other merch>They forget to update the shirt graphic until after it goes up for saleThe real question is why Shori, who *is* on a song in the album (Rebellion,) isn't included. The truth is probably an equally boring reason but it's still weird that she's literally the only member who's in a song on the album but not featured in the art/merch.
>>90268444FWMC is sovl. Actual EN Idols.
>>90265807Yeah, because she ditched the event
A Cover employee should be fired every day without replacement until Full Color gets released.
>>90304661If i remember correctly its because Shiori wasn't gonna be doing the race (The whole point of the album before the race got canceled)