A thread for the Tamer of Tutu and God of Ghostcat, Calliope Mori
>>90507058Mori if flat.
Remember to your Mori, Morp, Morpo, and Calliope
>>90507079Forgot my image...
I don't want a cool woman anymoreI want a goofball
>>90507146Would a "cool women" not know what the phase "Spitters are quitters" mean and accidently say on it stream in front of thousands people?
>>90507121Forgot your second verb, too
Remember to love your Mori's MIA 3rd catIgnore that fuck-up I made lol
>>90507504Based couponbeat lmao
have you debs already figured out your Grimoire wardrobe?
>>90507627Probs gonna watch it naked like I do all the other streams.
>>90507642at least wear a funny hat for the occasion
>>90507627Probably some ripped jeans (cause I'm manslut) and a Mori shirt (maybe with some sleeves if it's cold)
>>90507627I'm trying not to make clear plans until I have a ticket to minimise disappointment if I miss out in the rush.
>>90507627I'm going as a weird fucking cat
>>90507627Probably going to wear the limited edition GxG shirt I ordered. Maybe a jacket, but it's LA and I hate feeling sweaty.
>>90508297do you think the glow in the dark ones are going to be noticeable during the concert
>>90508316I hope so.
>>90507627full default Mori cosplay
>>90508011a WC cosplayer similar to smol ame/migo would be pretty damn funny
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1862799555236163617
I can’t believe Mori is dead
>>90508891Dead serious about going to the Las Vegas Sphere!
>>90508891Well yeah, she's death (straight up)
Is there really a non-zero percentage of someone from EN leaving? I'm worried a bit.Yes, it's Gura, but I can't help but be worried.
>>90509212Real shit, if she wanted to leave she would've already done it ages ago, if anything it should be reassuring that she's content in current state
>>90509710Yeah, we've kind of already gotten past the bumpy period where she might have feasibly left.
>>90509710Yeah. Gura seems content with just appearing in the occasional 3D performances and Cover seems to be ok with that.
Who turned Mori gay? Kiara? Ina? Kronii?
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1862812499185422659
>>90510107Hololive did over time that broke down her catholic guilt.
>>90509212There's always a non-zero percent chance. The fact that so many holo members stay as long as they do is a testament of how good working for cover is. And Mori will be saying for sure since her and Cover's vision match
I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse that I immediately think of mori whenever I see any girl drawn with long pink hair
>>90510107Me I’m very bad at sex
when is mori’s biological urge to make a baby going to override all of her other goals
>>90511148Around 2 years
>>90511148The second that house is built, she's going to see how big it is and imagine seeing children running around in it.
>>90509212Both Aqua and Amelia's expensive memberships and low streaming frequency proved that their activity policy was to 'Quick & Easy Money-making'.If Gura learned from Amelia how to start Patreon, she would graduate.
>>90511148When she adopted me.
I've been working on something involving anagrams and it's just spat out that LIVE AGAIN is an anagram of VAGINA LIE.That is all. You're welcome.
I'm watching the Starseed VOD from the morning and holy shit gachas at this point are the literal definition of word "slop". UI, story elements down to the pretentious title they give you, all this shit is so fucking streamlined with some additional elements getting shuffled back and forth. But Mori is cute and horny so I'm enjoying that part at least.
G'nite
Were there any other standout moments of Mori being horny during the starsneed stream? I saw her reaction to the feet art
>>90510107Saku
morning debbies, how was the mengen? I was watching in bed late at night and I think I dozed off before it ended
>>90512352It was chill. Mori's a total worry wart though and aught to get a chicken lamp or something to treat her bad case of the SADs.I can't believe she's already picked out a name for her third cat though.
>>90512352Emotional, intimate. Great listen while drawing or doing something like that, if you're not into the MM gameplay.
https://youtu.be/_ePRnLeJ548?si=FUgGtDItShVzLQrGHuh, Fake Type made a song using Miku.
>>90513057DYES did. He made a whole album of miku songs then at the same time had others do covers of those songs as well. Remember when Marine and Gura provided vocals for one of his projects? It was that.
>>90513057>>90513134https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnDCLRUw8qgO0oI0xrYsaGmSRzauH9ycs
GTAbros we're so backThough it will be ironic if she insists that she needs to take a break yet she does VCR GTA again
Pussan reunion ikz
>>90513264Oh is Pururu joining? it will be nice to have some more fun together.
>>90513264It’s a break of 1 maybe 2 days
>>90513455It's literally just tomorrow lmao. She said she will be doing a collab the day after if schedules are good or just a solo stream otherwise.
>>90511703I wouldn't call it slop because it seems competently enough made to me, but I do feel it's "pandering hard". Even Mori went "Wow, it really strokes my ego" at one point.
What do you guys think Mori will do during VCR? I know it's a pipe dream but I hope that she roleplays a loud western sheriff for the 15th time, that would be really unexpected and fun.
Oh yeah, who was that girl who wanted to met Mori during VCR Rust but chickened out?
>>90514348Yoichihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WadTaFG3XuA
>>90514406I think it was this specific cliphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8yncOQcf0o
I'm tired of events, I just want solo streams or 1on1 collabs
>>90514472>only 31 hours of solo streams in the last weekTruly a man dying of dehydration iin the Great Lakes
I'm perfectly happy with the amount of streams and events going on right now.
>>90514554VCR Rust, ENreco, hologta, 7 days to die. It has gotten a bit much lately
>>90514745VCR rust happened 7 fucking months ago lmao
>>90514470
>>90514775This year has been a blur to me
https://x.com/GXTsang/status/1862716566963724659Would you still love your Mori even if she got corrupted by the ruinous powers?
Did Mori play Yakuza 0?
>>90515068I think she only played Like a Dragon for a sponsored stream years ago.
https://files.catbox.moe/sohie6.jpgtoo much?
>>90515396a bit
>>90515396Don't care much for muscle mommy Mori, Mori with a cute pudgy tummy is better. Also pubes, non-canon
>>90515646Pubes should be cannon, not too much tho
>>90516140What is this? I saw a few others post it on twitter.
>>90515060Corrupted? You mean enlightened.
>Mori liked thishttps://x.com/Sneightow/status/1862789034864509162
>>90516422>only shipping tags no normal art tagslmao
>>90515396How did she turn you gay?
>>90516422Cute>>90516616She has good taste in friendship (and "friendship") art
had to leave halfway through the stream how was the rest of it?
>>90513264I thought the next one was supposed to be red dead...
>>90517892Red Dead Online is barely functional even in its base form, they probably just gave up
How are tickets for the show going to be done? Ticketmaster or some Holo specific service?
>>90518092cum tribute contest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKceEOf2Z68
>>90518351Oh shit I love Unravel 2
>>90518351hot pink on pink action
>>90518351Raora is Mori's third cat
>>90518613big cat means big trouble and big tiddies
>>90518670Makes sense why Mori is trying to get a bigger house, Raora's fat tits would take too much space, Mori's milkers already occupy more than half
>XCOM 2 Ironman save bricked itself for no reason
>>90519732modded?
>>90519732Nope on PlayStation
>>90520142oh well, rippart of why I never do a pure Ironman is cause of my mods losing me the save couple times and me just saying fuck itI just hold myself to the standard of not reloading but still made manual backups before and after every mission
why is morp awake
>>90520824probably crunching out the character designs for the MV, rest day my ass
>jwu>more vcr soonnice, no need to disturb my sleep hours
so what are the codes for starsneed? do i get them automatically or did Mori have a code we had to enter in the game
>>90514745Anon you really need to get a grip on the passage of time. 7DTD was the most recent of those and that was almost 2 months ago
>>90518351Noice
The advent calendar is backhttps://holoen-advent.com/That dancing deadbeat? Me.
no Meep to morp?
>>90524433CHaDRock is becoming more of a thing, wouldn't surprise me if she's the first guest on the podcast
>>90524503today is break catching up on UM deadlines day
>>90524526Mori with the MILF hatAlso, IRyS and GUYrS...
>>90524503why are you asking this? you didn't watch members or saw her tweet?
>>90524433>>90524526Very cute
>>90524798Artists is trying their darndest to manifest a Deadleaves collab (Mori likes that duo name, so I'm gonna use it from here on)
>>90507058mori calliope is shit.
>>90526557Yeah, the shit.
thinking about becoming mori’s third cat
I'm honestly surprised at how few mimics Mori's had to deal with in DS2
>>90529623theres only a few up to aldia's keep, I think each one has a piece of the dark armorafterwards theres a few more
>she's already wondering if the Queen is the real bad guykek, I wonder how much of that is osmosis or just her making lucky guesses
Do the Hologirls know what Unrailed is? They recently released a sequel and it's a great 2-4 player coop game.
>>90529905>I was looking forward to a battle with the Queenoh she fucking knows on some level
Grabbing Mori's tit while going "Honk! Honk!"
>>90526557My shit, true.>>90531031Mori knocks your teeth in and calls you an asshole. Roll 1d20+4 for psychological damage, roll 2d20+15 for physical damage on the roll of any 20 you die immediately. If your race is deadbeat you heal for 2d20 on any roll of 20 for damages.
>>90532449First roll 8Second roll 10 and 20
What are we getting other than VCR slop this coming week?
>>90528799>ywn be Mori's third cat and take a fat shit on her carpet
>>90524526>CHaDRockI thought we were going with CHAD (Chaos, Hope, Amethyst, Death)
>>90532879You take 20 damage, if you're a deadbeat roll 2d20 for healing otherwise you perish.>>90533856Mori has toxoplasmosis let's gooooooooo!
>>90514472Same tbhdesu, the novelty has really worn off on these "week long multiplayer sever" type games
What do we think, Is Mori going home (to be with family) for christmas? New years?
>>90534881brb, let me ask tutu
>>905347109 and 17, so 26
>>90534976Ms. Stinky Mori jr. Would kill me for even asking those questions.
>>90534976Ask her if she knows where Mori hid the cat treats. I need to know for reasons.
>>90535155You live with a minor concussion. For some reason this makes you like Mori more.
>>90535291I would've accepted a major one for my Mori
>>90535478she's eating out of my head btw
Oh no, Fauna...
Fuck me
oh shit not Fauna https://x.com/ceresfauna/status/1862980884451729484
well that's what she was upset about
wtf is cover doing holy shit
>>90536589I'll simply denyvthe possibility until she says it outright.
>>90536255There's zero chance they let two graduation announcements happen within like 48 hours each other, or that her contract is expiring so far away from Council's anniversary I'm gonna bank on this being a hiatus of some sort
>>90537041Did you pay attention to Mori at all
considering Mori was 100% set on "getting off the internet" today, I'm really not optimistic. Fuck.
>>90537564>the one with the UMJ deal and two sololives saying things are find and she like the directions it's going.anon mori is the worst person at reading the writings on the wall.
I'm glad EN has gone strong for so long but I can't stomach losing any of them...they're all great...
>>90537788People leaving because they personally don't care for the direction things are going doesn't automatically mean things are turbo-fucked. It just means they personally don't care for the direction things are going.
>>90537788so basically you're the exact kind of person that's making Mori depressed
Just let the girls stream if that's what they want. Mandating performance/travel stuff isn't healthy.There's plenty of talents who do want to do that stuff.
>>90538078when it's some of your top talents that are leaving it does mean thing are going into that direction.
>>90538341Anon, let's be realistic. I like Fauna, but she really doesn't do anything.
>>90538237don't think for a second mori wouldn't have walked out with ame if she could have, the only thing keeping her in holo is the UMG deal.
>>90538473Anon, I'm sorry, you might be retarded
>>90538473>don't think for a second mori wouldn't have walked out with ame if she could haveGenuinely asking, why she would even do that? How does that logic work in your head lol
>>90538473You are fucking stupid there was nothing stopping her leaving
>>90538473see >>90537564 but also apply it to her whole career instead of just last night
>>90538473Anon, I hate to tell you this, but you've been in a coma since July 2021.
>>90538473>
>>90538698People aren't rational when they're sad or angry
>>90538698>>90538820>>90538822>>90539114>>90539137you all know as well as I do if she did get that UMJ contract she wasn't going to stick around.
>>90537041If the past few "affiliated" graduations are saying anything to me, it's that while the girls enjoy streaming, some don't necessarily enjoy the work they need to do behind the scenes for the increasing amounts of events, concerts, sponsorships, etc and are stepping away. Cover may quite literally be suffering from success in a way.Anyway, here's a cute Meep (Classic)
>>90539691Once again there was nothing stopping her leaving after she was also down after her sololive so what's your point, don't come crying here because your oshi is graduating and not her.
>>90539691Well we don't live in your stupid reality, do we? Just go take a walk or something, dude. You're not thinking straight
The girls themselves are the ones who are feeling the strain of the constant growth and expansion demanded of a public company, these same pressures didn't exist before (at least nowhere near at the same level) unless it was pressure/work the girls picked for themselves
I'm just praying it's like a 1-month hiatus...
>>90515060Me on the tummy
At least we know now that it isn't anything to do with her personally. Hopefully it's just a hiatus, but I'm not holding my breath.
>>90540198Maybe, Fauna seems to have a lot of health problems.
>>90539868Mori's locked in with a music contract. I'm not even sure she CAN quit anon
My only coping mechanism right now is that Mori would have 100% joined in the LoL collabs if she knew it might be the last Fauna collab
>>90540363This is ontop of the Visa situation. She is tied to Cover unless she can come up with another job to sponsor her.
>>90540198I'll be disgusted with myself for thinking it but I'll be relieved if her cat had died or something and she's taking a break because of it.
>>90540541Outside terminations I don't think graduations ever happened this far away from anniversaries/contract renewals. That is probally the strongest proof.
>>90540777Doubt it, Mumei retweeted and they have that specific thumbnail that they always tend to use
>>90540777She would have done a note in chat saying its not graduation, seems in bad taste keeping it vague no?
>>90540915>>90540941Let me cope.
We never got that 1 on 1 Fauna collab...
>>90540363>>90539740would you look at that, a /#/ faggot, kys and go back
Deadbeats
I can only hope that Mori stayed off the internet today and just took a day off like she said she would.
>>90541468He'll go in global and say uh oh deadbeats are having a melty
>>90541520
>>90541602Is her collab an off collab with raora, I'm thought unravel 2 didn't have online co op.
Luv me cute Mori
I'm really conflicted, I want to be worried about the direction things are heading in for Hololive but Mori herself seems like she's sitting pretty. If I get a bit doomer-y about the company it feels like shitting on what Mori wants to do but if I just say everything is fine because it's going good for Mori then I look like I only give a shit about her to the expense of other Holos.
>>90540883It wasn't a termination but wasn't exactly normal either but Coco's was no where near her anniversary.
>>90542323Mori explained enough in last night's members. She's in it for years at least. She really wants one big thing, something to the tune of RIP to buy a house. She's in Japan for the rest of her life.
>>90542323Mori wants to be an idol, some other vtubers just wanna stream. I'm sure holo appreciates that Mori is so dedicated and willing to work hard.
>Aqua>Ame>Chloe>Now (most likely) FaunaI also get the feeling there's more coming soon too...
>>90542701That's the problem, if some girls just want to stream then Cover should just let them do that instead of chasing constant growth in all areas and making the talents shoulder the brunt of that. That's what I actually originally hoped dev_is would be, talents focused more on performance side stuff to take the pressure off the the girls who just want to stream games.
>>90542896I don't understand what's going on. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that some Chinese company is headhunting them.
>>90542636>She's in Japan for the rest of her life.Im sure that won't backfire on her
>>90543077It's not just the concerts, it's the meetings, the perms.
>>90543077Well you know how the japanese are, they're very strict and want to bleed that stone.
>>90529905There’s a big portrait of her that gives massive curse if you look at it
>>90543129>I don't understand what's going onThat's because you're looking for conspiracies
the worst part about being a deadbeat is that you have to watch hololive forever and see every graduation
>>90543129My guess is behind the scenes they're demanding more idol activities rather than streaming activites; more singing, dancing, concerts etc most of which will require them to be in Japan for it, so either they're constantly travelling, or they have to move (like Biboo). If they're not able to commit then they have to leave i.e. become an affiliate.
>>90543510>he thinks mori won't peace out once it clicks things are in the shitter
>>90543077>if some girls just want to stream then Cover should just let them do thatWhy? This ins't a new thing. Of course some talents have always had more of a gamer/streamer feel but Hololive has been an IDOL company for a long time now. Everyone joins in for HoloFes and it's always been like that. It's always been advertised as an idol company, I get the Myth girls joining in and not expecting that since they were experimental, but after that, everyone knew what they were getting in to. That is no excuse.
>>90543708Lmao, you are SO fucking mad Mori is here forever after shitposting for 4 years that she is going to graduate.
>>90543077>Cover should just let them do thatI mean they do? Fauna specifically hasn't been to Japan to record since like 2022, and nobody really seems to have an issue with that
>>90543510I only started watching recently but it seems like I joined at the worst time with so much doom, gloom and people leaving. At least Mori keeps it positive most of the time.
>>90543708shoo
https://twitter.com/petra__fyed/status/1862633654440055019
>>90544029JP company don't fire you like that they just bully you into quitting if you don't wanna do something.
>>90544303I really don't like the clown lipstick she always uses.
>>90543077Fauna has been in like 2 voice packs this whole year, her only real 3d appearances have been the 2 paid concerts, like 2 appearances and the Promise group live. She doesn’t take sponsorships, take much of a role in organising collabs or release music
>>90543941nta but I figured Cover wass very hands-off considering what Gura, Shion, Ayame, and Mumei have gotten away with. Pushing Concerts at the expense of "just being streamers" is putting the cart before the horse. Streams are where the connection between Holo and fanbase is made & strengthened and because that bond is strong the fans want to go see their oshi in concert. Without that bond there is no sustainable business model. You can throw out models with nice voices behind them all day but if nobody cares about them there is no money to be made.
Mori is wearing a MILF hat in the Advent calendar
>>90544819FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKK
It'll be interesting now that cover is offering affiliate as an option if people choose the full on graduation option anymore
>>90544420>JP company don't fire you like that they just bully you into quittingHow do you "bully" someone who sits on their ass playing videos games as a job, out of their job? lmao Mind you as well, there's several other Holos who have 5> Covers/Originals in their entire career and only perform like once a year FES
>>90544916Doesn't really matter if they're the same in practice
>>90544303sex sex sex sex
>>90544922they make your life a living hell.
>>90544916If 'affiliates' ever return for a special event then we'll know; until then it's just graduation under a different name
Maybe “affiliate” was the worst invention ever.ENs have a higher percentage of their revenue from streaming than JP, so it makes a lot of sense to use Hololive as a stepping stone.
>>90544916affiliate is nothing more then a meme so they can sell merch
>>90545071Until someone in Holo does a Rumble return affiliate status is no different from a graduation.
So obviously this is what soured her mood on Wednesday, but any chance this is why she's taking a mini break this weekend?My mind's connected those dots just now, but I'm defaulting to thinking it's a coincidence as historically she's repeatedly been the one to stream first after a big announcement to take the bulk of the pent up emotions, grief and questions from fans.
>>90545327I think it is more so they can finish off any projects they were working on at the time.
There's one very weird anti hiding among the concern posts for some reason. Wonder why he chose here
>>90543077Yeah just look at how much they force some Holos like Shion and Ayame to do stuff.
>>90545562Just one of those guys who has been saying "Mori is goign to graduate soon!" since 2020 throwing a tantrum realizing she is here forever.
>>90545513It's just a day off, but it's not a coincidence it's on the day of the announcement (whatever it is)
man, I get why she's so stressed about the Sololive nownot even couple weeks after, multiple things happen that would affect people's support and faith into Holo and HoloEN, at time where she and other girls need that thing to be a smashing success
Considering the signs I'd be happy with even an indefinite hiatus desu
>>90545513>So obviously this is what soured her mood on WednesdayI'm not really so sure, surely she's known about this months in advance
>>90544440I bet it leaves cute kiss marks thought.
>>90545589Well I'm sure at your grocery store job they'd just force you to work the freezer till you quit.
Mori just retweeted it... FUCK
>>90546158
>>90546158I feel like you could make a good classifier for "is this announcement a graduation or not" based on number of retweets by other members
Mori retweeted Fauna's stream announcement, it's over
>>90545962>2 hours of typing/working I'm exchange for playing video games for a livingStill a pretty sweet gig honestly...
>>90546158>>90546310>8AM on her "break day"No other reason she would be up
>>90545326>Maybe “affiliate” was the worst invention ever.The thing is, it's always ostensibly existed, since Cover has always held a policy of "Graduates can return whenever they feel like" It's just now an actually official piece of policy instead of being like a unwritten agreementWe also don't really even know if they make money off it cause thus far the only existing affiliate hasn't done anything
>>90545831My guy, Raora and Gigi have a Poppy Playtime stream due to start an hour before this announcement. Unless you're batting for the argument that this isn't a graduation at all (it is), then they sure as fuck didn't know at the point they published their schedules at the start of the week.
yeah it's a graduation I hope I'm wrong but it's looking that way if even Mori retweets it
>>90546449damn it Mori, you were supposed to take the day off...
>>90546520I guess the talent other than Promice didn't hear about it.
Maybe the whole EN Original Song is going to be on Fauna's channel?
>>90547145Anon, Mori is funding it. It's goign to be on her own channel.
It may not be the only graduation.
even Shiori retweeted it
>>90542636>She's in Japan for the rest of her lifeI dunno why I'm imagining a granny Mori among Japanese grannies after reading this lol
>>90547891I can only see mumei or gura if they are but I hope not.
>>90546700Hitting a button on twitter isn't very demanding
>>90548189hopefully it was her manager
im glad mori calliope will never graduate because she is living her dream of being a singer, songwriter and performer. A musician in all ways she ever wanted.She will be the driving force to restructure hololive for a better future.
No EN can graduate until the full EN song is done. Death denies them their relies.
>>90548140Mumei and Gura are too obvious, if they wanted to leave they would have been right after Ame since Cover apparently doesn't believe in spacing these fucking things out.
No 1on1 asmr collab...
>>90548946She's not graduating today. In a month or whatever.
I'm kinda on Pekora side with these regent graduations. She basically called both Aqua and Chloe dumb without saying it directly. These graduations just seem really fucking short sighted. I don't see why you would need to quit when you can just do what Gura, Mumei and several others do and basically just show up to special events. It's not like they stop you from doing stuff outside of hololive aside from vtubing. Even health issues they let talents go on hiatus until they are healthy again and like Haachama said, there was a point she almost graduated because it didn't feel like she was getting better, but she stuck through it and is good and streaming again regularlly now. Same with Nene recently.
>>90549989I think Ame and Fauna want to stream without having management and deadlines looming over them, so it kinda does make sense for them
>>90549989Hoping for something similar to what Miko did a couple years ago
>>90549989Chloe talked about it quite a bit, but even with management being accommodating, there are some things they're like>please, at least do Xand those were things that were hurting her/didn't allow her to properly recoverat the end of the day the girls are contracted, not self-employed and there are things they have to or feel like they have to do to retain the job
>>90549989Not streaming means missing a lot of income, unless you make money in some other you might not be able to afford it
>>90550664>and those were things that were hurting her/didn't allow her to properly recoverThen just go on a proper long hiatus like Haachama, Miko and Nene did. They didn't do anything during those hiatuses. I think that's why Pekora was so confused about their choices.
>>90549989I mean there is the theory that they are being pushed away from streaming content to more concert/idol content (which does explain why Pekora and Miko got sololives despite being nowhere near as music focused as many holos who have not gotten them like Bae, IRyS, and Kanata). This also makes sense with Ame and Fauna leaving since they don't really care for that stuff.
>>90550762Going to indie doesn't even fix the main problem of ASMR content being heavily restricted on all platforms
>>90550762>Not streaming means missing a lot of incomeHolos are salaried so it kinda doesn't really matter that much
>>90550942Peko knows how this shit works. She started from humble beginnings herself but really grinded her idol reps. Some people can't do that, and while it's a shame that it means losing people we love in the places we love to see them, it's by no means the end of the world.
>>90551290be ending yourself and doing us all a favor.
Either management or Fauna didn't notify anyone from Justice, since Gigi and CC has been stalling the whole time, and Raora just joined their stream after canceling her and Gigi's poppy collab
Raora Just rescheduled her collab with Gigi...
this effectively kneecaps her sololive, jesus
>>90551568that's not good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQcur9E89E
>>90551621Not really. I don't think many of Fauna's fans are in it for the music side.
>>90551899this a big hit to all EN moral
>>90551340Any salary (and that's only rumored AFAIK) would be much less than what they normally made for the past several years, talent compensation in the quarterly reports is strongly linked to streaming revenue in particular. Now they probably could get by with just membership revenue but most of them would probably feel pretty bad about taking people's money for months in exchange for nothing
If Cover is going to focus on concerts and the idol business, now is the time to give Mori everything she wants.
>>90552266>she asks for more cats
>>90552266>now is the time to give Mori everything she wants.lollmao even
>>90552400But first, tutugram.
>>90551568yup it's a graduation then
>>90552400>Cover has Ando created in a lab via cloning
>>90551621Hopefully that'll mean it's easier for me to get a ticket then
>>90551621Why? Were a bunch of saplings buying tickets?
>>90551038Milo specifically really pushed for a Sololive and Pekora is a fan of actual idols
I said it about Watson and it applies to Fauna. Those who dealt with the early days of EN are going to see it as time to go. (Those that don't want to follow the new direction at least) Newer gens know what they're getting into with managerial meddling and expectations beyond streaming. Those first gens forged their own paths and dealt with their own issues. Definitely worth admiring. It's sad to see something as simple as "I want to stream what I want" being a barrier, but at the same time Cover has been generous when talents do decide they want to part ways. Nobody is forced to stay or dragged through the mud on the way out.I just hope if this is one of those announcements, there is a proper farewell. So far I do not like the affiliate thing.
>>90551621>>90538237
>>90552266>now is the time to give Mori everything she wantsEverything, you say?>captcha: GAYRV
>>90552266yeah me
>>90554260It doesn't even make sense since the ones who would go to Mori's sololive are ones who watch more than fauna anyways so would be around still, if a bit sad.
>>90554899desu it's not unimaginable that DDs or fans of members other than Mori are less likely to go to an event if they're feeling negative about Hololive in general
>>90555579Alot of Hololive fans are "communal" so to say, they don't have oshis and they don't "oshi the company" per say but rather try to support all talents they can. Mori's live may have gotten alot of general Hololive fans in CA who just want to support a Holo. Things that point to "Not all is well behind the curtain" has a likelihood to scare those fans away. Its part of the reason why NijiEN is currently dying, prospective fans don't think they can invest in any talent since the company won't protect/support that talent hence why even Nijis who keep their nose clean are still bleeding viewers.
>>90556791Anon, you gotta be actually retarded to compare this to the NijiEN situation.
>>90555579Maybe if the day of her departure is within a week of the concert or something. People generally don't dwell on these things for long, especially nowadays when more and more people are just popping right back up with another name ~a month later
>>90556985he's kinda right
I didn't plan on drinking tonight but fuck me...
>>90557097Yeah if this situation was ANYTHING like NijiEN one, which it is not.
>Fauna's likely graduation>Mori's Rap Contest in Decemberdoes this line up
>>90557287>Fauna wins the crown>fucking diesTruly the Tupac of our time
>>90557363I blame Diddy for this
>Even Noel delayed her stream by 30 minutes Ok yeah it's not looking good
it's time your ready debbies?
>>90559287It's gonna be really funny if it's like an EP annoucment or a merch collab.
>>90557089the venue tickets go up for sale in 2 weeks
>>90559399I hope it is kek
Ouch.
wow she said it
Fuck you Cover
Damn nigga, wtf is management doing?
>>90560426mandatory genital inspections
>my laptop bluescreened just as the stream started
well fuck
well Twitter is going to light up usually when stuff like this happens it breaks the internet
>>90560589MICROSOFT HATE
so this is why Mori was questioning herself if she's actually in the wrong is...
>>90561392what
>>90561392She didn't though.
>>90561392She did the opposite of that
>>90561611He is talking out of his ass. She literally did the opposite.
>>90561392Yeah.....
>>90561392Retard
Maybe it's time to rethink the RM safety net mori
>>90561847no he didn't finish the sentence.>questioning herself if she's acutally in the wrong is....
To that one Sapbeat who always posts here; my heart goes out to you. Hopefully we get some good Fauna x Mori interactions soon.
>>90561392>>90561068would you look at that, a numberfaggot again
>>90562647not that guy but fauna might be my 2nd fave after mori and it is hitting me much harder than I thought it would. it's just so out of nowhere
This is fucking bullshit, I'm actually fucking angry. This is different than Ame, I want heads to roll for this. Hopefully the backlash will be enough for something to change within management.
>stream ends>vids about Mori going awooga to Starsneed and saying "she" loves LoL come upSadness but kek
>>90563486When you manage talent and a lot of it, you're going to find people who disagree with how things are being done.
Now that I think about it, Ame might be the only Holo who graduated that placed fault entirely on herself instead of "the direction of the company" or managment Which is ironically bit a funny since you could very publicly see that decisions they made directly negatively impacted a lot of the content she enjoyed doing
>>90563890its stupid that they cant be flexible, different talents do different things and have different strengths.Fauna's kind of a doormat when it comes to that stuff so they must REALLY be fucking around and finding out
>>90562364Go be retarded elsewhere, dumbfuck
>>90563890>two back to back graduationthis isn't a good turn over rate anon
>>90564158Yeah, I think something changed behind the scenes and if you don't have the backbone to fight back like Mori or Kiara you are just going to get ran over.
>>90564158It is very stupid that they stick to such strict set of rules
So I didn't watch the stream. What was the reason?
Well Morpo, how are you gonna lead us through this?Morale is gonna be at an all time low, what words can you conjure to give everyone confidence
well, now we will definitely get a 1 on 1 with Fauna...
>>90564158If there is anything I know about entertainment business is that it's never flexible.
>>90564521Nta but if there are a bunch of talents that disagree with the new direction I guess it’s better to just have them graduate all at once rather than a slow prolonged trickle where their passion is gone.
>>90564789"disagreement with management" and she also said that she loves being an idol and performing on stage so it was something besides that
>>90564521It's the end of the year, best time to do it.
>>90564789"Disagreements with management"
The thing that's strange to me is that you also have members going all-in like Biboo and FWMC. I imagine there may be some sort of ultimatum to either move to Japan (with company help) or be willing to make 2-3 international business trips a year
>>90564789So first off it's 5 minutes man you can watch it, but basically same as the others (unless Chloe is different, I haven't watched hers) middle management are fuckers
>>90564984That is a death wish. We make fun of the "Graduation Queue" but it is preferable to 10 talents dropping out in a month. That would shatter consumer confidence in Cover.
>>90564801I was thinking about this...right now saying something could be a double edge sword, and I think this shit falls under kiaras and moris shoulders just because they are from myth
>>90564849Dunno, I think it just takes a certain type of person. I was a bit of a doomer about the UMJ signing at the start and I'm amazed the amount of times Mori has gotten UMJ to bend the knee and am thankful for it now. That is probally why Mori still cool with things internally.
Can't you retards just support your MoriFauna's not trying to firebomb Cover
First, the VCR shit and now this. Today sucks
>>90565192Don't they have a cali branch what is that shit even used for is they are forced to go to japan.
>>90564801she cant this time, management's been directly blamed and Mori's been well-managed to her and the company's satisfactionnot even saying she's avoiding retribution from them, im saying she cant genuinely offer any comfort or condolence from her position (she can, but she cant be a lead on any of it)
>>90565192FWMC are only going to become more popular. They're both very talented entertainers and hololive with help them.
>>90565112Quitting a golden goose job like hololive because of issues with management is so crazy to me. Maybe that’s just because I’ve put up with so many shitty managers though and don’t make nearly as much…
>>90565375It would be pretty based if she did though
>>90565521This isn't the first time management was blamed. Coco blamed management.
>>90565656You'd crack eventually especially after 3 years
>>90565857Coco said she had too many things she wanted to do that she just couldnt while in hololive, she made it understandable and nobody held contempt for her because we understood what she meantFauna is straight up saying "I want to be here and I cannot" which is 100X worse
>>90565509NTA, but as far as I know that branch isn't actually set up yet. That said I'd hope cover would understand that being overbearing on this would only hurt them...that *also* said, I've seen the middle management whine about the girls daring to make requests of them on glass door, so who fucking knows
>>90565489what was that thing about VCR anyway
>>905661453 years isn’t that long, I’ve been dealing with shit for like 8 already….
>>90566402What Fauna does after will be more important than anything she says now anyways. That is literally how it always works.
I'll say my piece, I don't feel all doom and gloom like everyone else does. Fauna is going to come back again in some form or fashion and she'll be free to do what she wants however I do think that management needs to take a step back and really look and think about what they're doing this is now 4 consecutive graduations and to the average person this looks bad when it may not be. The big problem come from the fact that Holo has had a big retention rate and now suddenly you're seeing a few mems go. I'm just happy my Mori is sticking around for the long haul but this should always be a lesson to treasure our time together with her. now back to horny posting Mori let me give you a baseball's team worth of children
I just feel bad for muh Mori. Stay positive mori and focus on yourself!!
>>90566774She said she wants to sing and dance, doing that as an indie is 300x more difficult than doing it in a corpo. She had to give up some of her dreams to do this, which means that whatever management is doing is REALLY fucking bad.
>>90566145I've been in a corpo job with loads of horrible management for a decade, but the money is good as fuck, so no I can't relate
>>90564801PRROINK
>>90565656>Quitting a golden goose job like hololive because of issues with management is so crazy to me.Not really tbqh, maybe if you care a lot about the musical/performance aspectBut you're someone who ONLY really gives a fuck about streaming, you'll probably think it's entirely to take a chunk of your audience and pivot into being an indie where you don't have to deal with stuff like perms or a manager Ironically a lot of that "stepping stone" rhetoric from 2020 is proving somewhat true, but it just didn't apply to people who are in it for the music
>>90566904They need to see what made hololive hololive and not any other idol company. They moved away from the tech root to cash cow and it's sad.
>>90567259It could be as simple as she doesn't want to go to Japan anymore for the idol stuff and they won't let her use a local mocap studio.
>>90564158Well, let me give a hypothetical exampleLet's say Fauna just outright does not want to travel, completely inflexible on this subjectShould management shill out absurd amounts of money for foreign studios instead of just paying for a flight and accommodations in Japan to make use of their equipment alongside warping everything to accommodate that?
>>90565509For merch distribution and getting US sponsorships. 3d will still need Japan because setting up a us studio for like 8 people half of which will still be incapable of getting home from it without needing a plane no matter where it is is retarded
>>90567776Fauna's actually a felon and cannot enter Japan
>>90566904I feel the same way, I'll probably follow her to her alt while still supporting the other Promise girls, Bae especially, but things going forward aren't going to feel the sameENreco part 2, 6th fes, EN concert 3? It's gonna feel like something is missing and I pray that hole she leaves doesn't get bigger.
>>90567776no, they shouldnt. Fauna's a big deal and someone they should work REALLY hard to keep but she isnt an actual superstar. i really doubt that example is the reason though
>>90567259I really wonder what could be so bad that it only affects some of the talents. Based off other members it’s not like there really seems to be a streaming quota they have to meet.
>>90567455that's the impression I get is that Hololive has become a big industry ant that they're working their talents too hard
>>90568035You have to remember at the end of the day this is a business, and these girls are hired by the company to do what they are told.
>>90566904Probably the example we should all follow but obviously won't fault those who are sad
>>90567396We are saved!
>>90568359entertainment is differentcompany has final say but losing an extremely well-liked entertainer is usually the worst case -scenario even outside entertainment companies will bend over backwards and lose money just to keep really good contractors. Fauna isnt the diva type so it must be something truly irreconcilable
Oh shit, this makes Council/Promise the first gen to lose two members...
>>90568359>you join a job perfect for you>3 years down >in your 4th year suddenly they tell you to take a trip to south Africa every 3 months >wtf No anon
>>90568035I'm going to talk like a business with this post so don't get mad and aren't my direct personal feelings. You are really over estimating how much she is worth to the company compared to it as a whole. She gets a decent amount of super chats and sells a decent amount of merch, but it's not nearly the level where they could make an exception and pay to rent expensive studios in the US so she doesn't have to travel. She would have to be pushing Gura or FWMC levels for them to make exceptions like that.
>>90568035It's what I can see being a reason, since she mentioned agreeing with Mumei and them apparently wanting to MC but also were the ones who didn't travel to NYC with everyone else
>>90566904I pretty much echo this. I don't think Fauna made a rushed decision, but I also don't think Cover management is evil...they just do need to take a step back and look at how things are. Before more talents and fans suffer. I know managers and perms protect the girls from stuff like channel strikes, but too many restrictions and bureaucracy is bad too.
>>90569057The thing about streaming and entertainers is that they grow on trees. You might lose a good talent but there are always hundreds more ready to try and prove themselves. >>90569157Thems the breaks kid
>>90569275Mumei is actually focusing on school now since she's been in limbo with it for so long.
>>90569212I mean i already said I agree with you, i honestly doubt its a money or a travel disagreement
>>90569157South africa ain't Japan, man.
>>90569435>Mumei is actually focusing on school nowiirc didn't she also have covid during BD?
>>90569440Dunno man, it's literally the only thing I can think of. since there are tons of others who don't have a problem.
>>90569473My father says south africa is beautiful.
>>90569376>streaming and entertainers is that they grow on treesya but talent doesn't.
>>90569691That too.
>>90569791Yes they do.
>>90569157I mean if you sign up to work for a company based in another country, I would feel like that’s always a potential risk. I wouldn’t blame that on middle management though. I feel like that’s more something brought up in contract negotiations.
>>90569376Ask Niji how that worked out for them. Maybe you can hear some words between the gallons of blood they spit out. Every graduation like these chips away at the trust Cover has built over these past years, if you continue to chip it will give way and then there is no saving it.
>>90570163NijiEN are dying because a talent they fired literally said they drove her to attempt suicide with bullying then decided to do a tone deaf victim blaming stream.
>>90570508These are clearly the same thing, as per the writing on the wall
The "disagreements" portion feels EN management directed rather Cover-directed honestly. It's easy to group them based on recency, but Aqua/Chloe reasons for moving on seem different from Fauna's
>>90569435Oh, I know she is, but apparently they wanted to MC and didn't and we know Cover wants them to do that shit on-site to avoid embarrassing situations with synch
>>90571078They both said differences it's top management id say.
>>90570508And they had already had gotten away with it once before. The only reason they didn't with Selen was because she had connections with tons of artists and other content creators who called Niji on their shit. Treating talents as disposable WILL catch up to you sooner or later.
>>90570163Not to say what's happening now isn't a red flag but Niji's turnover rate in 2023 and their treatment of Selen was fucking unprecedented. On paper Cover can still salvage themselves right now
>>90571078Pekora basically called them both retards for quitting so their reasons might be a bit more short sighted.
>>90571078The well of this conversation is poisoned because of people reading so much into a single sentence. Maybe that's just me, though. I can't take arms in good faith over something so vague
>>90571078Nah, that doesn't track at all, the timing is too coincidental for the issues to not at least be connected.
>>90570163NTA but Niji has literally just always had comedically high turn-over rates (they fired Gundo Mirei over a fucking baseball joke ffs), this is a behavior pattern that predates their EN (shit, the way they created their EN branch involved firing their old Indian branch which was rebranded to "EN" for a short time) Their big issue was that one of those talents who got turned-over specifically noted that she got bullied out, and this bullying specifically drove her to attempt suicide
>>90571078We also have to take into account Japan's inherent corpo boot-licking attitude.
>>90571349Reality is often boring
guys this feels like the unironic beginning of the end fauna's statement was so direct, Cover, at least EN's side, is gonna take such a massive reputational hit from this
>>90570508that was like chopping the head off a late-stage cancer patient, the males were already in decline, the fanbase was already up in arms over the cancelled concert, delayed 3D, and terrible merch, and when Pomu left they lost their brightest spark
>>90571290Look up Yuzuki Roa
>>90571705Isn't that the Niji who disappeared years ago, but they pretend like nothing happened and still put out merch of her? lmao
>>90571610I don't think so
>>90571610Mori could always get bought out by umg go on covet sell the rights to them.
>>90571610sounds a bit like you're trying to stoke some fire that doesn't need it. She was allowed to say what she wanted and has a month to elaborate on that during streams. I'll listen to her instead of you.
>>90571327Or maybe Pekora's viewpoint is the short sighted one. We won't know unless a whistleblower comes out and tells people just what is happening and I don't think any of the ones leaving this year has it in them to deal with that
>>90571610i really dont want to believe that, especially with Mori saying things should work out, and I believe Mori and I trust her, but I believe and trust that she believes that and not necessarily that she is correct
>>90571994The brain virus that originated from Coco's graduation has been allowed to propagate unabated
>>90571342>I can't take arms in good faith over something so vagueNah you're correct, the *smart* to do would be to wait and see if she clarifies what the actual underlaying issue is like Coco did, but;>Implying that anon on 4chan will be using the rational and logically parts of their brains in the face of having a opportunity to doompost about how the sky is falling
>>90571610I don’t think it’s the end but I wouldn’t be surprised to see another couple of myth/promise members graduate at this point. I think Advent on probably had a more concrete idea of what they were signing up for. At least Mori is solid and she has made good friends that are solid.
>>90572016Eh. I don’t possibly see how it could be shortsighted to make bank for as long as you can remain popular.
>>90572016Ame had literally zero bad things to say about Holo from announcing she was graduating to the final minute. Fauna seems to be the opposite. I'd personally guess that their reasons were different (with Ame's being closer to Coco's)
>>90572125Naw, Mori and Kiara are obviously solid. Ina was annoyed about teh Visa thing, but seem to still be optimistic. They seem to be letting Gura do whatever she wants because her size. Bae and IRyS are solid, Kronii was talkign about her next 3D live the other day. Mumei can be questionable depending on how her studies end I think.
>>90572016Pekora chooses stability, as long as you put the work in. Some people can't handle the work, so they leave. That's fine.
>>90572749I'd have put Fauna down as 'solid' 5 hours ago too.
>>90572125I am worried Ina is one bad day from leaving after the Visa fiasco. Kronii was talking about going to University recently but its a coin flip on if she actually follows through with it. I feel Bae is uncomfortably close to a mental breaking point with how she is sometimes. We will see if Mumei graduates from Uni to get a clearer picture of what she is thinking.
>>90572920Yup fauna had nothing showing that she was done other than some shitposting videos.
>>90572106The pitchforks are out everywhere from Twitter to R*ddit, everyone is really dwelling on the "disagreements" part. I'm not saying they should put the pitchforks away completely but they should definitely wait a bit to grab them
>>90571705>>90571863>on hiatus since 2019Jesus Christ, that's like some Shelly Miscavige shit
>>90571705>Yuzuki RoaRoa's situation was/is was SO MUCH more complicated than Selen/Doki's that it's not really even comparable >Roa have specifically "gimmick" in the way she speaks>New girl debuts with a similar gimmick >New girl graduates not long after>Rumor that Roa forced her out due to new girl encroaching on her niche >Fandom turns on Roa, harasses her into going on a self-imposed hiatus that's been in since 2020>Later in 2021 comes out that New girl is a long history of being a habitual liar, makes everything she said/did during situation>Fandom has reconcile that they possibly jumped the gun
>>90573190Yeah, I ain't saying anything until I see what Fauna does after.
>>90572920I choose not to live a life of fretting. Been there, done that. Almost ruined me
