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>>90540686Justice couldn't even keep five people since debut, my man. Holy fuck, add that one to the list no one even remembers. lmao The fifth talent that backed out early.
Really will miss Fauna
Like, sorry, but I can't support Cover anymore. Ame and Aqua were one thing, those two barely streamed to begin with, but the Chloe and Fauna double whammy is too fucking much to believe it's not a Cover problem anymore.
>10k waiting roomThe numbers are going to be insane, she is going out like the queen, goodbye my beloved, fuck you cover.
Yagoo really should clarify the company's vision after recent events.
>>90540686Promise and earlier gens lived through garbage management. Then things got better. Now things are getting shit again and nobody that went through that wants to go back.Advent hasn't been broken yet and Justice were introduced into it so they don't know better.
so this is how it ends, how fitting that mori is the grim reaper talked about EN going strong yesterday
so likethe fuck is gonna happen here
So can we admit that idolshit is a bad idea yet?
This Shiori stream is hilarious
fuck, she's my holo oshiwhat is happening
Yeah, I'm thinking it's about time someone like Eugene A started Hololive 2: Virtual Boogaloo. Cover's focus on dumb bullshit like Holoearth simply isn't worth it.
>>90540686If >>90540665 is right, then maybe they were inducted with the new rules, and recently-ish they tried to rollback it so the others also had those contracts. But that's just a rrat.
YAMEROOOOOOOOOOOOOO
There are like 60 talents in hololive. Why do you need to overwork everyone?
So will she finish the World Tree?
I told you she hated Idol shit and would graduate. I guess i was right, the Musical was the last thing she would do. MAN IT FUCKING SUCKS BROOOO but fuck the writing was on the wall. But if its gonna be this bad that they fired Mel and a ton of others just fucking left them i kinda want my oshi to leave now too.
Shes not graduating, screenshot this because in two hours i will be vindicated. you're getting drama farmed for views
>>90540933How is it so hard not to find shit management? Shit. Do they just hire control freaks or what?
Whoever said Noel can't sing LIE THEIR FUCKING ASS OFF!Check this rendition of her Bidibeda herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcssoY84nOI>TELL ME SHE CAN'T SING, MONGOLOID!
https://youtu.be/H88oI5uX3jM
If Fauna graduates, I’m done. I can’t keep going in like this. This is the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Whatever Cover is doing is causing a mass exodus and I’m not sticking around d for the remaining girls to watch this shitshow any longer. It’s been a good six years. Started watching Hololive back in 2018. While their faggots cling on to Cover’s leg, desperately holding on, the girls are falling off at an alarming rate. I’m sorry but I’m getting out of watching vtubers altogether, this shit is starting to depress me. This used to be a bright spot for me, but I can’t do it anymore. This just fucking sucks. Fuck Cover and their homo cocksucking management.
Sound the trumpet
>>90541035>you're getting drama farmed for viewsnigga by her or what
>EN losing both it's #1 and #2 streamersWtf happens now?
>>90541020Ame doko?
>>90540960Ye, wish she created more hype about doing it
>>90541039It's a Japanese company.
>>90540955Same with all the "Pomu will graduate!" spam. Say it enough and someday you'll eventually be right.
World Tree status?
>>90541035Mumei just retweeted it.
did u rike it ?
>>90541121they are not wrong
>>90541039Jap managers are always shit due to their culture. Cover was the one somewhat-exception. Now it isn't.
>people are surprised that the girl that pays 50% of her revenue to Cover just to receive problems and menial tasks is graduatingperhaps provide managers that actually does shit next time ggnore
is mumei nextnot stirring the pot, shes been very sporadic for a year and a half and has pretty much hit all her goals too
>>90541135Advent and Justice will shine over time.
>>90541135Imagine if VSHOJO Manages to nab them LOL
>>90541121I keked.
I hate thisWhy is she leaving???Is she gonna be an indie or just disappear??
>>90540944I'm guessing she's gonna move it when she wakes up
>>90541177I had a good 4 years watching hololivebut If someone creates hololive 2 not in japan i'm ready to move on
Gura just tweeted
>>90541177>lucks into success>like all jap company somehow fucks it uptale as old as time
https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1862990280959336936https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1862990280959336936https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1862990280959336936
Time to start archiving all the member streams and screenshotting all the member posts
Minato Aqua was rightApologize
>>90541255she is 100% going back to being an indie.
>>90541163
The worst part about this is that we're losing iconic talents with impact like Ame and Fauna and you're expecting new shit hires like Nerissa or ERB to be the future of ENIt's looking grim
>>90541315The issue is a non-Japanese company won't figure out the culture. A Japanese culture will have a shit slavery ethic.
She has been streaming a lot less lately so I can honestly believe that something is going on in her personal life and that this is her announcing a hiatus to deal with that.
>>90541175Thanks for confirming you are a nijispy working for cover
Is Gura merely a myth?
Do u rike?
>>90541229Who knows but Fauna leaving certainly won't be a + in the column for her staying.
>>90541229Maybe. Kronii definitely is though after recent events.
Unironically don't care as much as I did with Chloe. Because that one at least had the feeling of losing good fap arts.
>>90541388>new shit hires like Nerissa or ERB to be the future of ENNo, I'm expecting the likes of FWMC, Biboo and CC to be the future of EN.
>>90541334This fucking leech
She's not graduating btw
NOT GONNA LIE LADS, At this point imma assume the dumb rrat about Cover wanting to mix homos with girls was true but that shit got delayed from the backlash. Cover is so fucking stupid
>>90541388At least the Japanese side has the likes of Raden, Hajime and Niko to carry things if they lose any more important members.
>>90541334Fuck off. This shit makes me actually angry. Fucking leech.
>>90541379Oh, man, it would be kino as fuck if she graduated and burned that shit down.
>>90541454Unironically yes, let's get rid of all the omegay hires and create a new holoEN that actually feels like hololive
>>90541229Hard to say. She's uncharacteristically low activity but as we just saw with Fauna, Chloe, and Aqua, it's not the people who aren't streaming who are leaving.
>>90541334She knows something
>>90541454Maybe Omega wasn't so bad after all
>>90541388>iconic talents with impact like Ame and Fauna The only graduate fitting that critera was Aqua
>>90541255Going back to indie ofc.Hell, she already has several times.
Please be hiatus please be hiatus please be hiatus please be hiatus please be hiatus
>>90541521straight up if she doesn't I don't even think I know what would happen
>>90541388>hire music holos>they cant even debut with an orisongthey must have singer-songwriters out the wazoo in the applicant pile but they did not have the numbers like some shitty cover singers had
I haven't check out what is happening, now I understand the doomposting. Coping that is a 3d live annoucement and she is just clickbating.
Fuck this gay earth
>>90541454Reminder that he isnt the leader for HOLOEN anymore, mr Jap did nothing wrong
>>90541315>If someone creates hololive 2 not in japanGood luck not having it devolve into retardation in less than a year.>>90541404That's the problem. Shit like Hololive is always a lighning in a bottle, like, look at the rest of the industry, Holo was never the norm, they were the exception.
https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1862814090793812163I just realize the implications of this bae tweet, fuck
>>90541581Well, Ame....
>>90541615no shot bro, everyone's retweeting and moving their scheduled streams
What the FUCK is happening at Cover this year?Fauna’s the only member I’ve had membership for and over 2 years, it’s over bros
>>90541627There is a zero percent chance that it's GOOD newsThere is a non-zero percent chance it isn't graduation but the chances are not high and people have two hours to do nothing but sit pretty and wait
>>90541627Nah
>>90541334Wouldn't be surprised if this leeching dumbfuck played a role in this decision fauna is making
If this is really another graduation Cover really needs to clarify what this future direction is soon, because whatever the fuck it is, it's clearly creating a lot of problems with the current talents and fans.
>>90540933>>90541039I personally think it is just too demanding and suffocating being a Hololive member. She is such a pure soul that she might have even got fed up seeing trolls and falseflaggers use her to shit on her friends.Being indie might actually be financially viable now and less suffocating and she is also not going to be the first in EN so it won't be that shocking.
>>90541669It's not a hard formula. Hire women that don't hate men and don't run them into the ground.Can't find women like that in the west and they won't treat them normally in the east.
>>90540933It almost feels like Cover is replacing all the oldheads who aren't yes men with newfags that don't know any better. I knew that IPO was going to be bad news, but it's unreal to see what this company has become. This isn't going to be some massive public implosion; it's going to be a slow burn where talents steadily trickle out.
>Almost 5K watching DABOIZ flirt with a girlGotchu chuds.
>>90541682She sent that for the orca though
>>90541421Something did happen months ago and she's been sour about the corpo vtuber experience since.
numbers
>>90541705Yeah, it's why I said hard to say. And even then Ame left before Gura who everyone expected for the first from Myth.
>>90541682Yeah, it's over. Fucking hell.
>>90541740Who moved their stream?
My giant fucking cope is that it's gonna be about her never participating in FES or something similar again. But I'm 99% sure it's gonna be a graduation. I hate this
>chat set to subscribers onlynumber 1 indicator. she expects the chat to be zooming.
Mint probably contributed to this. Undoubtedly she's talked to Fauna about being an indie.This is becoming the worst case scenario for HoloEN. Its biggest strength is its relationships and atmosphere, but that can also become its biggest weakness. With fauna graduating who is to say other talents wont follow and simply continue collabing with her and other holo talents? It would be a holobox, but indie.That is hololive's worst enemy, and HoloEN should be in housefire mode, though it might be too late. Fauna was pretty central to Hololive relationships.>>90541521if it turns out to be long term hiatus then people will break out in delirious cheers, pic rel. Its that level of grim right now.
>>90541829DYRBI?
>>90541682She's considered it a few times already too, already doomposted about maybe that being the last birthday live.I wouldn't be surprised if Ina is finally done with Cover's shit too after the visa shit
>>90541805Anon, if you think eleven women are like that, then I have an NFT business to sell you.
>>90541018the live girls need to earn millions per month just to cover expenses
>>90541454How the fuck were things better under omegatr00n? How do you accomplish that
>>90541940I hope she outright fucking states it's about management and drops an ultimatum instead of bouncing.
>>90541824Could this be Shiori's time to incline
>>90541597>More people upset with management now than even during their rulingI kneel Omega, you were the wrangler we never knew we needed.
>>90541795They won't. In Japan, they are never direct. They will absolutely pretend nothing is wrong and that everything is fine even if big names leave, same as they always do. And if you don't like it, they expect you to leave quietly. These are the times when cultures collide the most.
>old talents are either quitting or running dragged by work load>new hires can't carry the weight>bloated management and endless bureaucracyCover is basically post-2008 Germany
I can hand out some cultural imformation pamphlets to ease your integration back into /lig/we got some cultural competency workshopsyou know the drill
>>90541949...A-Anon Holo chats are always subs only
>>90541795>he thinks Cover still has the streamers' interests in mind, not the investors
>Raora just delayed her streamYa it's over now
>>90541928Korone delayed
now i know what this was for.
>>90541982>if it turns out to be long term hiatus then people will break out in delirious cheers, pic rel.Would be a bit weird if the hiatus is due to health reasons or something though
>>90542073nigga now ain't the time for jokes
>>90541994I mean, I can always fantasize. It's why I watch VTubers, after all.
>>90541982>Its biggest strength is its relationships and atmosphere, but that can also become its biggest weaknessThat was always the case, which is why everyone assumed suits would at least keep the retardation to a minimum to keep any inconveniences to a minimum. Apparently that was too much to ask.
How do we make this about the homos?
NERISSA I KNOW IT'S EARLY BUT PLEASE GRADUATE, I DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT COVER ANYMORE
>>90541454If it means more Advent and Justice? Sure. FuwaMoco, Biboo, Cecilia and Raora have been the best EN hires aside from early Gura/Ina when they were more active.
>>90541121i blame gigi
>>90542073>he thinks we'll be using his faggoty thread
>>90541928>>90542113
>>90541982>if it turns out to be long term hiatus then people will break out in delirious cheersIf it’s not graduation it’ll be the loudest colective orgasm ever register in the story of this site
>>90542155sapling here.I'm sorry
>>90542114Ic
>Shirori pulls a guerilla stream.No fucking way. Bets management made her do this to distract everyone?
Maybe she really is gregnant...
Fucking shit cover, not everyone needs to be a fucking idol. You could just let Suisei do her thing and let other talents enjoy being anime women. Fuck.
>>90542155sapling here.Kys
>>90542176>tfw your oshi already signed her soul to Cover and she confirmed she wont leave any time soonhelp
>>90542073>/lig/Go groom your 3view shitstains, this is /BIG/ business.
>>90541454is he even still in charge?
>>90542208gg did nothing wrong
https://youtu.be/pV70B8ypbO8
Ffs stop being mentally ill for once and pay your respects
>>90542215You got nowhere else to go, homeboy
Are HoloEN revolting over how Cover treated Gura?
>>90541642>everything good is by Jap but everything bad is Omega that was fired but still somehow has influence over HoloEN!The cock sucking of this fucking SEA Mr Jap by you faggots should be studied
>>90542113FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>90542073Anon,I’m done with vtubers after this. The girls of Hololive were the only things decemg about vtubing and now that they’re fucking off, I’m gone.
>>90541949dumbass
Guys maybe she's just announcing a break that she's going to be traveling. Or moving or something.......
Yeah this seems nice right now IRyS
>>90542343Keep dreaming fag
>>90542155I am so sorry
I guess I'm going back to watching movies or anime or something after this.
>>90542372>cockCockanon…
Ex-corpos tend to get a big numbers boost when they first return to being indieBut then long term, numbers are lower overall.I guess from the streamers POV the lower numbers are worth it for whatever reason? More freedom, closer knit community, no restrictions or need for perms, no need to sing or dance or do meet and greets or attend office meetings...If you can still make enough money as an indie I think it must definitely be appealing
>>90541982>Its biggest strength is its relationships and atmosphereand that is being seriously damaged with 2 HoloEN graduations so close together. I just can't see how everyone in cover thinks this situation is okay
Everyone keeps saying management, but management has always been dumb and overly strict dating back to 2020. So why now there are four veterans suddenly quitting in short order? I think either there has been a change in the compensation model, or Cover now requires tangible metrics and work loads to justify the talents' remuneration.
>>90542339>just stop being mentally ill>he said, in the insane asylum
>>90542305Japanese company does what Japanese company does. Not adapt to market demands.
>>90542305it aint about being an idol retard, that doesnt make sense for the JPs that left. its probably because they want to treat the girls like they are working office jobs
>>90542322You aint gonna scout a new crop of shitposters before I pick out the best prospects lil bro
>>90541982IDK man, at this point I'd almost rather her pop back up in a month or two as a indie than have some serious problem that knocks her out for like 6 months or more.
>>90541454Yes bro rike it a rot
>>90542113no?
>>90542305When will you retards realize it's not the idol shit. Sakuna is still moving forward with idol dreams anon, it's something else internal.
I feel so bad for girls like Noel, who are probably going to stick with Cover for real despite everything, because things are only going to get worse the less girls there are since Cover will expect more from each one to make up for those who left
>>90542411keep your word
>>90540776Whats causing EN and JPs to exit, but not be so much of a problem that HoloStars and IDs are staying?
>>90542315>guys, health hort (cough, cough), indefinite haitusCan't stop her from just chilling.
>>90542225>>90542391At least actually check, retard. Delaying her stream would just make her stream at the same time as her announcement
Looking back it now makes complete sense that Fauna completely skipped HoloGTA. That last trip to Japan did something to her. Shes completely checked out on idol stuff and interacting with Jp Holos in general. If you have no interest in the JP side of the company being an indie is objectively better for you
>>90542411>now that they’re fucking offDamn you really liked Sakamata that much?
>>90542115Let's hope it's not for herself as well
Fauna was honestly one of the last ones I expected to graduate. Sure, she didn't care about the idol stuff and travelling to Japan, but she always really loved streaming and was part of all kinds of collabs. This really feels out of nowhere.
>>90542482that cope doesnt even make sense since Ina overlapped sana all that time ago anyways.
>>90542073She'll have her own thread, /lig/ sucks only shitters that can't maintain a general use it.
>>90542338then stop being shit at your job and then maybe talents wouldn't leave
>>90542073No thanks, I will fuck off to better pastures
NOOOOOOOO
>>90541949Biggest retard of the thread, congrats. I know it wasn't easy.
>>90542460You can make a living with just 300 or so viewers, but you do have to grind.
>>90542498>I feel so bad for girls like Noel>NoelRaidchama, at least read the briefings.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY feel like crying because I don't there's a future in which Fauna leaves but Mumei stays...
>>90542418Nah, she wouldn't put (the serious kind) in her title for that.
Wait... are they FORCING the girls to move to Japan? Does anyone know? Could this be the actual problem?
>>90542024they're not allowed to do that
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>90542113Still the same for me
Man why the hell is at FST +2 I just want to get trough and go to bed and cry
>>90542713Dont make me cry anon
>>90542467>Cover now requires tangible metrics and work loads to justify the talents' remunerationThen why are the homos still around?
>>90542460If Fauna goes indie she'll never have to worry about money again. Holomems make 100s of thousands a year at least. Even if Cover takes half, she'll be set.
>>90542731Thats the dumbest shit someone has said this thread anon, Congrats
>>90541581>Aqua>streamingare we still in 2021?
>>90542763And what will they do? Get prissy? Fire her?
>>90542596As another anon said, if Raora does move her stream, it did come out of nowhere and it's over.>>90542024Cover ain't retarded with their NDAs like Anycolor.
FUCK
>>90542731No retard, JP wouldn't be on fire if that was the problem
Biboo... get back on a plane RN, don't fucking pay that deposit
I know the dread you're feeling all too well right now saps
>>90542804So that management can be awake to tweet it out
>>90542731>cover wants to expand into foreign markets>makes all foreigners move to japan
Janny can you clean up /uuu/
>>90542731No
>>90542418i could be a big hiatus but... idk anon, my hopes are low
>>90542166>the warm and atmosphere must be for all of holoprot. yagoo
It's The Times They Are A-Changin, boys. Advent and Justice will be the new frontier for HoloEN. Same with Dev_is in JP's side. It's been 7years since holo was formed. new wave will always overtake the old. That's just how things are.. the cruel nature of time is Change..
All you faggots saying that you are done. You'll be back being schizos in couple of days. You will never be done.
Ah, so this is why she agreed to streaming League. Might as well do it before she graduates.
>people keep moving to Japan to help their careers>never make a hub in the UShumu humu
>>90541177I liked it more before the perms shit happened
FRIENDS UNTIL THE END!!!!
https://x.com/search?q=%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A6%E3%83%8A&src=saved_search_click&f=liveJPs are also melting down
QRD on the Phase yab? Why is the thread being spammed?
fuck this shit now Gura will have even less reasons to stream
There is no need to be upset
>>90542976>implying she will go back to doing RolePlay ASMR GF RPnah, she got the audience now, she doesnt have to go that low.
>>90542596i mean imagine being told you can still make money off your persona you built in hololive with the affiliate deal and youre freely able to stream on your RM. You'd genuinely be dumb to not take that deal
>>90542338>The top comment I hate these fucking retards so much. When Aqua said it was because of the company changing ffs of course it's the company's fault.
>>90543060This.Real mysterious how there's so much damage control when the idea gets floated about the Japan moves, when we already know the girls were doing it to help their careers.
>>90541229I would have said no, but I could see this changing things
>>90543023I get this. But nah, honestly losing steam over this whole vtubing thing. Once my favorites graduates, I'd just move on to different stuff.New gens is for new gen of viewers.
>>90542571I watched a lot of Aqua and Fauna. But if Fauna is leaving, then it’s pretty clear things are changing within Hololive and not for the better. Why would I stick around for the others I enjoy when I know it’ll lead to an inevitable heartbreak? Nah, I’m probably checking out of vtubing if this is another graduation. It won’t be the same if they become indies again and no longer interact with the other girls.
>>90542804Same. Just pull the trigger already bastards!
Please be nise to the large indie sluts
I uh, I had an update for the editorialized tally but I feel like it may be in poor taste at the momentDo you want it or should I scuttle and wait for another day
>chloe before Iroha>fauna before KroniiThis is super unexpected. I always thought those two were content hanging around but I suppose whatever bs works required in the background were just too much to deal with.
>>90542713>their original song from BD didn't even get released officially>it might never happen at all
I think it's over for reals.
>>90543142Imagine being Gura>loses BF>loses Oshi>loses JP translator buddy form Umisea>Loses her most loved KouhaiShe aint staying, just wondering whats holding up her leaving at this point.
So basically anyone that didn't physically go to new york for breaking dimensions is graduating
>>90543168Unless it's some sort of trick to get access to the indie IPs. Which, considering the management rumors, I can't actually deny would happen.
>>90543165I bet she fucks off streaming entirely for a long time
>>90543296do it fgt
You guys are genuinely fucking retarded if you think Fauna is graduating.
If fauna does decide to go indie, would you still follow her? Even if it means potential mint collabs or whatever
>>90543228still not watching Phase
Hololive really started out having one of it's best years ever and will end 2024 with it's reputation ruined
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>90542917Honestly this could maybe, in the absolute slimmest of chances, be the one point against graduation because they forced Ame to do it in the middle of the night.
>>90543299It actually makes sense. The mid always thinks they have better chances if they stir things up.
>>90543351Gura effectively left before all of them
>>90543168But you won't be able to stream with your Hololive persona anymore or collab with your Hololive friends/colleagues.
>>90542910Based SakufamiAs much as it hurt, Sakuna is genuinely happier now ( pc issues aside ) and so am I. If Aqua thinks the company has gone to shit, then it has gone to shit. Simple as.
>>90541510>>90541541>>90541541You lunatics actually deserve your oshi to graduate.
>>90542910>aqua and fauna were in your top 5 most watched streamersShit sucks
>>90543100GOOD DAMN LOVE ME THEM DOOBIES>>90543418of course, my Love was always for Hololive not fucking cover corporation.
>>90541018Don't they have like 600 employees or some shit? Man, imagine three different managers shouting at you for voice pack shit or pinging you in the middle of the night, I'd probably go insane too.
>>90543351She's so far gone she won't even quit. She'll just ghost and leave her memory like an infected wound.>>90543411She would have said something by now, Fauna's not the type to let shit hang. And if she just "forgot" then she's being an ultra-dumb bitch.
ID too strong pls nerf
>>90543299Kronii is gone too after that randomass post
Kurolive....
Graduating before 1mil subs.....
>>90543411Just like Chloe right?
>>90543469>collab with your Hololive friends/colleaguesRetard most of them will be out soon
Who inclines the most from fauna's graduation?
>>90543411We got two hours to find out who's retarded and who isn't, but I can't make any guarantees about who wins and who loses.
>>90543456yepShe was the proto-affiliate without publicly mentioning it
>>90542731I have been wondering that for months. So many chubas, corpo or not, have started to move to Japan and I honestly wonder why. They can't all have fallen for the "living in utopia" meme.
https://poal.me/alf0q4https://poal.me/alf0q4https://poal.me/alf0q4https://poal.me/alf0q4 .
>>90541982I blame Kiara, probably she started it. When that orange retard started collabing more with the other girls just for pettiness because CC debuted, she probably started to introduce her indie 'friend' to the other girls. Before that, only Kiara was open about her. Now for a couple of months suddenly the other girls acknowledge her existence. I hope that orange retard and her 'friend' burn in hell.
So what exactly is the plan here? They have to know that their talents get popular off of streaming first and foremost and yet cover seem to be moving away from that. Did they completely miss azki suddenly blowing up or something.
>>90542038He just didn't have the power to shit on the girls harder. They all deserved to be tied to the same stake and burned.
>meidos being trigger happyWish you did the same job in the board
>>90543630Dooby
>>90543418nobody is gonna follow her. she's gonna fall off harder than kson. absolutely 100% 3view status within a year
>>90543418Yes, but I like Minto anyway. Gonna really miss the model though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE
>>905435901mil isn't really the massive milestone it used to be
>>90506342
The [RISE AND FALL OF HOLOLIVE] video essays are going to hit so hard in like 5 years
>>90542460>stagnant water becomes putridit's the nature of entertainment. if you don't do new things or doesn't have a goal to reach. You'll eventually stagnanted both in content and in yourself. That's why holo and niji are in the lead. they try something new even at the risk or hit and miss
>>90543617i dont think so
>mass holo graduation before homos do>it's also the above average popularity onesreally starting to hate cover ngl
>>90543351Whatever she has that's supposed to be coming out next year is anchoring her. It's the primary reason why people that keep chimping over her le impending graduation are retarded. But she's not re-signing that contract next year
>>90543142To be fair, she was technically the first one to "leave" ever since she decided to not stream anymore years ago. She is, however, more incentivized to leave for real and officially now more than ever before because who the fuck is she even gonna talk to in holoEN anymore. All of the people she liked are basically gone.
I'm just here enjoying the extra time I got for CCGG.
>>90543540They're actually hiring 100 more people next year, but some of the girls still share a manager. Isn't it great?
>>90542463yes I wanted to focus on the EN side. The JP side has a broad depth of talent, and as Chloe fits in that, she isn't criticial to the atmosphere. Its a loss, but one that can be covered. Aqua was more difficult but her long breaks helped soften the blow as the atmosphere existed independent of her for a while.But EN? The fairly back to back graduation is very brutal, especially since Fauna is a Hololive stream mainstay, and has been for a while. She is going to take a significant chunk of fans and probably integrate into the Doki-Mint-Dooby circle which will emerge as somewhat of a competitor on the EN side of streaming. This will also encourage other talents who aren't specifically interested in the idol side to jump. I'm looking at Kronii, Mumei, Shiori... maybe Bijou, maybe not. I think she would stay she is a real holofan. Gigi and Erb will probably leave ina few years, the opportunities hololive can offer ERB are very limited. Raora would stay, CC is a question mark.
When are the announcements for Holofes?
FAUMEIORISONGDOKOINCOMPETENT FUCKS AT COVER
Now there is no more attachment for gura to holoEN....
>>90543661i guess you're just gonna have to learn to love indies now that you're oshi is gonna become one, lil sapling. feel free to continue seething about Kiara impotently, tho
>>90543651It's because Hololive is fucking retarded and won't make a US branch so they can get their shit done without staying up till 2am. So they just imply, "If you were here, it'd be easier." Then they're working under unknown Japanese laws, which would probably make the problems worse for them.Which would be a legitimate reason to bounce. Honestly, it's black company shit if true. IF true. But I see nothing proving otherwise.
>>90543630No one, this is gonna leave a crater in the box. Maybe in the short term the people who would normally get overlapped benefit a little but this is a corrosive situation medium and long term.
>>90543707kson burned any goodwill she had by bunking with vshojomeanwhile dooby and sakuna are doing perfectly fine
>>90543733it keeps happening
DEPLOY EN5 RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>90543774Remember this day when it happens to you in a year or two, Adventbaby.
>>90543418I'll check out her streams. I hate collabs though so I wont be watching those
Honestly everything mori was dooming about during last nights members stream makes complete sense if it was about fauna
>>90543744Miyazaki now is not the time for the flowing water themes even if I appreciate and understand it
Now my only hope is that Mumei and Gura don't follow suit. Though knowing Mumei, she's probably next.
>>90543540Because like 80% of those 600 are working on a MMO that will never launch because the only reason they've money to keep developing is because of the girls, but now they're all quitting
>>90543785>above averagethey're the diva-types less likely to take shit from management. To put it less favorably, they're bitches to work with
>>90543739the same shit that kills any start up company that has big time loyalty. THey start following the money of the POTENTIAL people that can join instead of keeping what you already have happy. Its same shit over and over again, from sports, from gaming companies, SHows, whatever. FUCK MAN!! i just want for something to be fucking different for once....................
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Gura's graduation is gonna be a tweet from her account and the official company account
>>90543418and risk surprise malecollabs asmr
>>90543925Yup. This, if it IS a graduation, is going to cause real harm. Even if it is, just leaving a scare like this is going to make viewers kind of antsy for a month or two.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>90543733The Holo Winter is coming...
>>90543929fauna without the hololive filter is vshojo tier, brother, possibly worse. at least vshojo doesnt make tasteless jokes about natural disasters
Cover needs to come out with a statement at this moment, I cant lie this is getting close to Niji level fck up when Riku had to apologizeEveryone knows its not due to mismanagement but the direction and Cover needs to explain what is the direction they have decided
I-Is this karma bros?? I'm not watching non blue dorito.
>>90543967Most of Advent and all of Justice have been flopsI don't want EN5 I want Fauna
Did Destiny's yab seriously mindbreak you all this hard or sth
Not Fauna... she was the hottest in all of EN...
>lose Fauna>gain ERBHologods we're still winning
Is it over?
>>90543915>most fans decide to fuck off from vtubers altogether and the girls and the company end up losing more money than if the company just stopped trying to make things harder on the gurls
You rike?
>>90543418It's not so much "if" I follow her. I have to. Her voice is the only thing that keeps me sane
>>90544053She won't. She's already gone. If she doesn't graduate, it'll be purely by tweet, something like, "I'm gone. Cya."
>One of the most reconocible faces of JP branch gone>The top SC earner for 2023 gone>The number 1 EN vtuber MIA>The number 2 about to graduatewhat the fuck is going on man why is cover so retarded these are generation talents you fucks, your brand isn't worth shit if every top talent is gone.
Yay, 14k dorya...
>>90543351Sometimes i do wonder what Gura is still doing in hololiveLast stream over 60 days ago by the way
>>90544104>flopskill yourself retard
>>90543820Turns out that everyone that said Holoearth was gonna kill Cover were right. I honestly didn't think it would blow up on them that badly.
>>90543219well that's exactly my point. it was good while it last. there's no need to force yourself to liking the changes that happened. i'm still watching hololive untill the day my oshi graduate. then, that's it.
>>90542713stop...please
>>90543820it's the girls' fault for not wanting to share resources with holostars. They could have shared managers/staff/directors etc instead Cover have to pay for essentially two infrastructure
>>90543967>deploying a dozen meatwaves to offset mass graduationswho do you think they are, nijisanji?
>>90543545Not for long, It's clear that girls that hate the idol part will graduates slowly. I wonder how long before Kaela announce her graduation.
Well if the twitter leak about 4 more graduation after Sakamata is true, then I guess it's Fauna + 3 more (most likely one of them is Shion since she were vagueposting about 2025 on her roommate).
I propose that the "change in direction" for Cover is something very basic and far more simplistic. This is my super crazy insane theory:>They want the girls to work more on Cover-funded projects, double or potentially triple the workload >they now require a bigger cut of the girls' money as well, no extra incentive, just a flat out loss for the girls while they desperate try to disguise the sudden change
WE NEED EN5 EN6 and EN7 STAT
>>90543411I was saying the same thing to the sakamata doomposters, and her announcement was way more vague
>>90544209I'm fine with this. No need for the dumbass fanfare that some of the girls like doing.
>>905439702 MORE YEARS
>#1 fan of gawr gura and
>>90543590Mel had a hard life.
cecilia won
>>90544282Oh God lord.
wtf, why are they giving Hololive haters what they want?
>>90544104>I want FaunaWe know and you will be here shitting on other girls even after Fauna is gone.
>went in aqua's stream expecting a prank>gets graduation >went in ame's stream expecting nothingburger>gets graduation >went in chloe's stream expecting voice change>gets graduation I'm gonna go into fauna's stream expecting graduation. Let's see if that changes thingsWish me luck guys.......
>>90544189YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
>>90544152agreed desu besides gurano one can replace her mommy milkies>>90544235anon chumbuds have known she'd go indie after a live in 2025 since that member stream early this year
>>90544087>but the direction and Cover needs to explain what is the direction they have decidedbut they did they chose the california path
>>90544282OWARI DA
>>90544388>70 votesPretty meaningless poll but I'm happy for CC anyway.
>>90543411anon.. it's obvious. she won't be pulling this kinda thumbnails and tittle right after sakamata's graduation if it's not in that level of importance..
>>90543540>Fauna, do you get the memo about the TPS reports?
>>90544310>I propose that Fuck off retard. Official statement now or else I won't buy more Cover shit.
>>90543818in some way im glad they're streaming right now, holding this hole in my chest...
>made hololive grow to be the giant it is now>can with her own 2 hands make it all endHOLY KINO I KNEEL AQUASHE'S LITERALLY THE MESSIAH OF VTUBING
>>90544055I don't know why the janny is sperging out over posts like these when we literally, LITERALLY have a "Amelia Watson and Dooby" general on this board.
>>90544431Anon stop jinxing us ffs
>>90544307I believe everything at this point
>>90543630Those who stream in that timeslot, like how Fauna started inclining after Gura and Ina went MIA.In other words, Biboo and Gigi
>>90544431Just like me fr fr
>>90544307>Fauna, Mumei, Gura and ShionMakes sense
>>90544282THE PROMISED REUNION DORYAAAAAAAAAA
>>90544448but what is she waiting for?
guess /#/ gonna become an indie thread now
>>90544087>Everyone knows its not due to mismanagementbut it is. It's been mismanagement from the very beginning>I am the first ENI'm not typing the rest
>>90544282BASED BASED BASED
>>90541982Mint talked about corpo vtubers realizing they can succeed without the corpo a mere two hours ago or so.
>>90544282Yep she's leaving, Shadow will love this since she always hated that she went corpo
>14k waiting this far outshit's hitting 100k+
>>90544307Add Kronii, the random selfdoxx was a massive red flag
Unironically hololive killers
>>90544459Indie Fauna will collab with Northernlion and you’re going to like it bitch
>>90544348>lemonleaf
i don't get it
>They graduated?>Deploy ID4 and Armis2.
>>90544388I already moved to CC but man am I gonna miss Fauna.
Can we finally admit that this affiliate shit is poison to Hololive? What’s stopping. We girls from applying fully intending to cultivate a fanbase and then leave as soon as they have enough merch money set up?
>>90544492Based and only good take. Shit's too opaque to care at this point.
>>905445525 year anniversary live / needing time for a graduation live
>>90544561>566THIS NIP KNOWS
>>90544453>No more Ame or Fauna. Gura and Mumei continue being absentI call this HoloEN getting cooked
>>90544282IT’S ULTRA OVER!
>No more FauMei until Mumei graduates in like 4 months >It's not a phase is never seeing a official release
but you retards told me that Kronii was soon to graduate.....
>>90544557liggers won in the end didn't they...
>>90544646>What’s stopping. We girls from applying
>>90543418I might give it a try, but I think it would feel very different so I might not too. Fauna was someone I watched alot, but I wouldn't say she's my oshi.
>>90544496And you have retards in here only melting down NOW as if Fauna was somehow nore important than AquaDog shit thread
>>90544618I highly doubt NL would let Fauna leech off him.
Thread theme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kr7pv2fin8
"two more weeks" spammers awfully quiet...
>>90544557I'm okay with this.
>>90544282THE KISS OF DEATH
>>90544636This is EXACTLY the move i would expect from Cover not gonna lie. They will probably announce the Armis homos 3D live after Fauna's announcement thinking that will get people's spirits up again lmao
>>90544646How can you argue this and not the fact that Cover themselves are poison
>>90544051Commie
It's time to go back to /a/, we're waiting for you there
I have just received confirmation that Holo ES and Holo KR will both launch in Q1 of 2025.Thank you for your continued support.
Nah there's no it's graduation I'm betting my balls
>>90544586
>>90544491How long many times, and how often, has "homework" ruined streaming?Exactly. Cover's cooked.
>>90544492you've been buying this whole time? It was obvious since even before they IPO'd
>>90544854>MHA ending>OnK endinglmao
>>90543418i still don't know why people hate mint, it's the twitch clique that's cancer like filian and bao
She not leaving stop overacting and calm down. First if she was leaving the announcement would be around ame or sana time not primetime en and Second GG has a collab a hour before which is more proof so just calm down.
/#/ should be happy about this. She's gonna get the best numbers of her career.
>>90544496how did one retarded autist snowball this whole fucking company into the groundI feel like she single handedly killed this whole company
>>90544646>you have to join Hololive and stay 3 yearsretard
>>90544822i hope they do it, so they can finally set in stone the "direction" they want, fucking retards
>>90544854I came from /jp/ though
>>90544939>he thinks /#/ cares about numbers
What music fits this mood?
>>90544854I'm only going back when Dragon ball super returns.
>>90544863DOA enjoy those shitty markets, especially the spic one.
i like the small purple streamer and her green/yellow friends. thank you
>lots of ??? colla. om shiori schedule the graduation tour.....
>dead thread all week>Mori does a "numbers" name drop>suddenly racingSo, Cover paid damage control drones or what?
>>90544854>/a/rorurumaoI haven't been to that shithole since 2014
>>90544854>no more Big 3>anime is trash Isekai slop nowya no Im good
>>90544770http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trs-SFvMtYo
>>90544561636 knows
>>90544282>>90544586>>90544885womens world is cruel
>>90544557Doing what? Seething about how Hololive still will have the biggest numbers?
>>90544282It's done.
>>90544939I'm pretty happy about this, her graduation stream numbers are going to be amazing
>>90544646At some point you have to blame Cover for massively fucking up buddy. I was willing to shrug my shoulders as this being happenstance after Ame, but Chloe pushed it over the edge. You're now at 4 in 4 months. Stop blaming muh affiliate and start lighting a fire under the suits' pants
>>90544557I'm just going to post unicorn memes from now on.
>>90542880Aqua was more active than half of Hololive in 2024, yes
>>90544909Niji hate trumps all
>>90544914ESLchama...>>90544939>/#/ should be happy about thisAnon, despite everything, the thread isn't filled with "1 BILLION POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS" retards
I'm sorry kiara
>>90544282im ok with this
>>90544990I mean, the only reason /#/ likes Fauna is because she succesfully managed to leech off Gura, Mumei and Kronii, and steal Ina's timeslot to get her CCV.
>>90544914retard
>Apologize
>>90544282oh this is actually over yeah
my theory is that Cover is going to pay the Girls less money, and that's why a lot of them are leaving
>>90544189It was Yagoo's fault.
>>90543418the moment she does a single twitch collab I'm done with EN vtubing
i am returning to big booba fleshstreamerssome of them are quite nice if you spend time digging through the shit
>>90544914Well, to be fair, Ina was legit overlapping Sana's graduation announcement, so...
>>90545041are you a real person or a bot? read the thread
>>90544152She was so fucking sex. Easily the sexiest EN. fuck this man, what a waste of a sex model
>Shiori possible filling in for fauna in league of legends
>>90544282You won, shondo. You fucking won.
>>905449142 MORE HOURS
Now I feel like an idiot looking at my merch... not because I feel bitter towards Fauna, but because I feel bad for giving Cover any money at all
>>90544804They're doomposting too lol
>>90545176based. stick with JP.
>>90544282GANG GREEN <3
>>90545190I've been here all week, that's how I know it's been fucking dead, dipshit. I also know people would go to Fauna's general instead of here. kys
RATE THE DISTRACTION SCHEDULE
>>90544854not my oshi, not my problem
Doesn’t this kind of ruin ENReco season 2? The next one is about Promise and Fauna will have fucked off by the en? It might sour the whole thing for a lot of the girls
>>90545176Let's hope she does then so we don't have to see your retarded face around here anymore.
>>90544307Mumei, Shion, and Kaela
>>90545103Honestly how? Bitching on 4chan?
>>90545182You new? Reason I changed to vtubers, even on twitch, was because they either become vtubers or degenerate hard eventually.
Oh boy here comes the graduation collab spam
R-RATE THE SCHEDULE
Well, back to watching Vinny then...
>>90545142It's cuz she's cute and somewhat intelligent.
>>90544854my oshi is still in hololive but this is alarming for the rest
>>90544646This is assuming the everybody who chooses affiliate would stay instead of just graduating if it wasn't an option. Remember, affiliate lets cover continue to make money off merch.
>>90545066broooo i miss her voice soo bad. I just want her to speak, just tell me it over and ill crusade for you Goob.
Is Faunaschizo still sleep? I thought we would be more active.
Merry Christmas Saplings!!!
>there's still no damage control message calming people downYeah, it's fucking over.
>>90545357>intelligentlol. she visits reddit.
What about the 6000 employees? Had Fauna considered how her decision could affect those around her/
>>90545304so Shiori is back ?
>>90545150>created starsENI apologize for nothing.
How hard is it to just... Convince them not to leave?
>>90545266I don't care about JP 4views either, there's a clear difference between those and the ones who regularly get >20k ccv
>>90545318Cancel memberships, cancel merch orders. Leave comments under twitter, reddit, graduation streams, main channel streams detailing why you are doing so
>~50 full time devs (not counting auxillary employees related to holoearth)>50+ staff/managers for homos (EN&JP)that's at least 100 parasites on just payroll expenses. Gotta be worth >$1m/mo. reminder this is just payroll
>>90544854Gachaslop ruined /a/. All the best animators, artists, and storyboarders were sucked away to make gacha and the anime industry was left as a lifeless husk.
Biboo's average is going to plumet
It's been 8 months and I see no male collabs on Mint's channel. Why the hate?
>>90544282Rip
damn, just read the news. Will this bring back comfy numbers of old?
>>90545312Maybe ENRECO2 will come sooner than you think, and will be Fauna's farewell event.
>>90545453For one week and then back on break
>>90545348This is exactly the reason why i will follow her.
>>90545351Fuck, do I just go back to watching Kripp play card games every evening?
>>90542305Yeah! Yeah finally someone said it! Now excuse me, I'm gonna watch literally self proclaimed idol streamer Sakuna.
GAA 10K
>>90544886I will never understand the 'homework' shit. Seriously, what the hell do they need to do, is not a damn office work. And even less doing it at fuck you hours with japs. I said before, for everyday small things just go with NA reunions with NA staff, big things like FES, I guess could be doable doing a reunion with japs.
>>90544282Oh yeah it's done lol. EN is doomed
>>90545398He's getting buried and outposted, and he's depressed without (You)s.
>>90543630shiorin will take her timeslot
Um bros it is unironically over. I love advent and do watch them but Cover has entered its slow decline into irrelevancy.
>>90545304As terrible as usual
This will be useful in the coming days, use it well.
so nijiEN died and took holoEN with them, uh
>>90545492Rise*
anyone has the timestamp when fauna said>I will name my baby...from yesterday's lol collab?
>>90545552I've been watching Sodapoppin lately.
>Fauna graduationLOL
It's better if I just don' think...
>>90545313you sound like you want it because you're a cuck, not because it would piss anyone off
>>90545478If Fauna leaves I don't care anymore, Cover can do whatever. Best of luck to them.
For the record, 132 ppm is debut speed, it never been so over
>>90545495Cause male collabs aren't a problem you tard. It's corpo shizos thinking they'll have to anti every ex corpo for betraying their former god.
hmmm
Affiliate status was a mistake.
APOLOGIZE
>Shiori raided fauna instead of autofister collabOk yeah its fucking over
>>90545453Last week this year. After that she's gone 'til January.
>>90543411>You guys are genuinely fucking retarded if you think Aqua is graduating.
>>90545632It's true. We are like this.
>>90540776>Chloe graduation>Impending Fauna graduation>Impending Finana graduation>Potential Altare graduationWhat is going on with Cover nowadays?
I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY EYES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fVE8kSM43I
>>90545714Based Shiori
>>90545142i've been watching fauna since before she made it known she's a chumbud
>>90545103There is no new direction, nothing has ever changed, idol activities have been the core focus all along. If there's a problem it's not yagoo's fault for being a normal employee at cover.
>>90545552Forsen
>>90545632>i don't want to have to watch actually good vtubers who don't have stifling corpo restrictionsGood for you, there ain't any of those out there.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>90545676>end stream>see this>go "oh fuck okay" and retweetThe idea that Shiori missed literally all of this going down is funny, at least
>>90545714why would shiori hurt her novelites like this :(
So hiatus or graduation, which one will it be?
>>90545702why did you break her heart kronii, she would have stayed...
Wait if this was graduation wouldn't Mori be doom posting more? although it does make all the collabs Fauna has been doing and the make sense....Fuck.... I'm going to be crying at work aren't I? Please God let it be not a graduation I already miss Gura enough who if one remembers she joked she was semi retired. It wasn't a joke.
Well with Gura, Mumei, Fauna and Ame gone i guess its time to go back to being a drunk sports fag who is depressed every week because his home team is fucking shit. Guess its back to playing PS5 and smashing my controllers playing Fifa or Madden. Guess its back to life sucking again
>>90545744chumbuds were never this obnoxious
Honestly, after 3 graduations shitting on workload, and a probably 4th on the horizon, it's time for you to all apologize for calling Gura a liar every time she mentioned workload.
>>90545714>>90545813Why am I in the Autofister stream then
>>90545841Hiatus would be the good news.
>>90545841She wouldn't announce a graduation like this
>>90545770>There is no new directionMultiple members have explicitly stated on stream that there was a change in direction, including Pekora.
>>90545628Don't watch that retard.
>>90545754>Impending Finana graduationscriptkiddiechama...review your shit...
>>90545580He is also sad, all the stuff he said wasn't serious. Worse is, even as an indie, he would not be able to groom her as he planned.
>>90545647Nah, I want it because corpo shizos deserve the rope.
>>90545841All signs point to graduation. Anyone saying hiatus is on some massive cope.
>>90545552You could always come and watch Speedy with me.
So we all agree a short hiatus right?
That explains why she raided Mint, she did something she never do or ever did... The writings on the wall...
>>90545770Fucking kys you absolute braindead faggot
>>90545251and you fuckers laughed at me when i stopped watching/supporting cover after my oshi graduated.
Why do I believe that Holostars is somehow responsible for this?
>>90545935I already know he's bad, stupid, and retarded, but why shouldn't I watch him?
>>90545971Yeah
I dont think Cover management realizes how big Fauna is in the HoloEN, she is second to Gura in the amount of fans and will have the same impact in EN as Aqua had in JP
>>90545937we love whores in this thread though
>>90545851Nigger, Cover doesn't allow holomem fraternization. Fauna is graduating to be with her. It's the ultimate sacrifice.
You were warned.
>>90545946so you're a ligcuck just here to shitpost then, good to know
>>90545907>>90545971Nah, because then it'd get shitposted as being like whatever happened to dumb and dumber. Anything besides the stream just being a shitpost means it's over.
>>90544348Pretty sure this was her way of signaling graduations, she caught wind of so many people leaving that she had to say something. Or I'm a schizo, either one works.
>>90545899its not even about the workload, its about all the shit management cancels that MAKES them seem like liars. That was her points how she constantly doing stuff but everything gets blocked and then nothing comes out except maybe 1or 2 things out of 5-10 of them.
luv me girls.'ate corporations.simple as.
unironically this is the death knell of holoen
>>90545883>Mori be doom posting moredid you miss the liveposting member stream she did last night?
>>90546009Based Sakufami
>>90546033In the hopes that seeing his numbers drop will lead him to suicide.
>>90545841Seems pretty clear cut grad. You offer me pretty much anything else I'd probably take it though
>>90544854I'm reading korean novels, the non harem ones are pretty good. Anime just doesn't have the same hook it used to have.
why are you guys talking about holos in the large sapling global, cmon
>>90545941I'm too stupid to know how to script on 4chan but I wrote down corpos until I forgot about Finana (as everyone does)
>>90546087
>>90545925How would she?
I blame all these EN Graduations on Doki. She proved that 90% of your fanbase will follow you after graduation. Dooby was the nail in the coffin.
>>90545656More than Ame?
>>90546169No, he wasn't.
>>90546052sorry she doesnt have loads of dead subs from tertiary holoen fans so she is not important
>>90541035she is screenshot this and know just because you use edgy sam hyde picture doesnt mean youre right
https://poal.me/j7dmsthttps://poal.me/j7dmsthttps://poal.me/j7dmst
People mocked him when Yagoo said he wanted to make AKB48 clone, it's clear since day 1 what his vision is.
Its time to come to a realization that Fubuki is a sellout and we can no longer trust in her.
>>90546052>will have the same impact in EN as Aqua had in JPSo...nothing? Aqua was like 5th or lower in terms of overall JP ranking. You're right about Fauna being 2nd in EN though, which is disastrous.
>>90546077They do between members, not between members and staff
>>90545971How long was the gap between Ame graduation and Dooby debut?
that is a fucking graduation thumbnail
>>90545971if anything and with how serious it sounds, i think it would be a long one, but... thats just our last hope, im not feeling good honestly
You guys should have seen this coming when Fauna didn't even attend Breaking Dimensions.
>>90546108Yep, but even after all this nobody is going to apologize for dragging her for years. This thread likes to pretend it's SNORyS but every time Gura comes up there's not-so-subtle shitting on her for being lazy. No, maybe she really does just have insane workload.
>>90546140FUCK I WENT TO SLEEP. I dont have time to go watch the stream...You got a link or do I have to hit the archive?
>>90546150I don't think he's committing suicide anytime soon. He seems extremely happy now, a far cry from what I remember him being like years ago. Veibae probably helped with that a bunch.
>>90546169The whole reason vtubing is being destroyed is because no one was man enough to chain this flip to a slab of concrete and drop him in the ocean.
>15k waiting roomsapling I...
>>90544854That's what I do mostly nowadays. Only my oshi keeps me in vtubing. Once she's gone, I'm done with this hobby.
>>90546294Kys
hi /#/u ok
>>90546261akb48 didnt have homos
If fauna is leaving im probably out, shes not even my oshi but its the sort of indication that makes paypigging for goods feel retarded.
>>90545453Forced collab before Fauna's graduation. Typical damage control shit from black corpo
>>90546277You're not going anywhere.
I told you guys, Cover has an anti white bias.
What would a serious announcement even be, other than a graduation or an indefinite hiatus?
>>90546451Wait, when did we start talking about Nijisanji?
>>90546392tourist post
>>90545561There are no homeworks, Talents are free to refuse them, If they have issues with it it's not management's fault
>>90546197Sacrificing all of them to get rid of Fauna was super worth it.
>>90546253Wasted my energy coping about Aqua and Chloe, not gonna bother this time. Assume it's graduation and be happy if it isn't.
>>90546400no i am pretty fucking far from okcover can burn for all i care
>>90546400No. Pretty fucking far from okay
>>90546365I mean she had lots of other sponsorships that no one else had so there must have been more meetings. But you are right, everyone always shitted on her including other Holo fans probably because of jealousy like everything.
>>90545470Very hard, not even 600 employees can
>>90546400NO
Homofags are the real Hololive antis. There's one Holostars fan in a chat I'm a part of and his reaction was>Let the flood gates open>Lets end 2024 with moreFucking disgusting. He only shows up to shill his boys and complain about women while everybody else has fun discussing Hololive and indies.
>>90544189Absolute monkeys paw.
>>90546400noeh
>>90546392She will still get numbers but the thread will do a 180 on indie collabs, shondo, fillian, mint, pippa etc.. when they collab with her.
>>90546511Sololive
>>90546521Actually it's a true-rist post.
17k DORYAAAAAA
>>90546511preggers
>>90546511those are the only two options honestly.. im inclining for a long hiatus considering CCGG/Shiori's mood but... idk
>>90545596My gripe is them trying to make EN pander to jp when it's already saturated with the large amount of jp members in addition to their new dev_is branch. It's too idiotic considering EN is supposed to be their global branch
>>90546558>cover can burn for all i careMask slipping off so easily, huh?
>>90546694AAAAIIIIEEEEKISS OF DEATH
>>90546703it's graduation, dude
>>90546642No, she won't. Low 4 digits at most. >5k on a special stream.
>Shiori retweeted the thingWell Shit...
>my most watched members are Ina, Fauna, and MumeiYeah, i think I'm done.
>>90546610I actually agree with the homo. Stop oshi-ing the company. If the girls feel like they'd be happier elsewhere then why stop them?
>>90545561Japs are famous for being mega autist anon, a simple solution like that needs 10 years for them to figure out
Guys...I can't even look at the screen.
>>90546610fucking retard really dont get that if all the girls leave their homos are pretty much dead
>>90546801I will literally bet ANYTHING it's hiatus.
>>90546759>Cover is my oshiYou people are just sad.
>>90546511She has cancer
>>90546277Fubuki has been doing more to bridge the gap between Japan and the world than any other mem
fauna cant graduate she never finished the tree
>>90546647That would be framed in a less ominous manner.
So Ennachad won, just like that?Will irys be next?
>>90546610Why do they get to keep going like nothing, can't we sacrfice that branch to graduation gods instead
No way she graduates before 1M
Maybe next time someone makes it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR on their RM that they're graduating soon you guys will listen instead of deflecting
>>90546703Shiori seems pretty upbeat but I'm not even sure if one of her own genmates graduating would be enough to faze her
mfw Roboko outlasted them all
>>90546694>mori retweetbro's hold me
/jp/ won...
>>90546886She's gonna burn that cursed thing to the ground before she leaves
>>90546511The only other options I can think of are like this>announcing that she won't ever be choosing to do things like Fes or concerts again (doesn't seem likely)>maybe the cat died and this is a repeat of Sana's stream about her pet dying>like an actual terminal diagnosis of some kind where she'd say "I could die soon but I want to spend the time here while I can"Far more likely to be one of the other two options than any of these
Will /#/ survive seeing the new indie getting regularly mogged by vedal, Veibae, etc?
Is Hololive really now just an idol company focusing on only music and concerts??Is that why Bae and Mori are happier than ever and people are Amle, Chloe and Fauna want to leave?
>>90546948She has seen shit. She'd have to lose a limb ER style to be fazed.
>>90547017why did aqua leave then?
A Gura retweet would convince me this is a graduation
how much $$$ do you think they gave Gura to not graduate yet
>>90546858Cover burning would hurt my oshi, retard.I get it you're sad but what you said would cause harm to all the other Hololive talents.
>>90546019schizophrenia does not require realitybut here:>2025 is the year of holostars
>>90546886Finishing the tree will be her graduation stream. Everyone will help her. And once it's done, she goes 3d, bows, thanks her saplings, transforms back into a Kirin and slowly walks off into her forest.
>>90546966retard
>The worst year of your life SO FAR
>>90546851NTA, but hand over the balls. Don't worry I'll bet mine to on being a hiatus
>>90546610this is why everyone hates faggots
>>90546966/jp/ is the dog in the room that's on fire laughing at another house for also being on fire
If it's a graduation, I hope it's just straight up gone instead of this affiliate bullshit.
>>90545691Trust the planBased yagooThey're no longer comedians but real Idols
>>90542532Holostars and ID aren't making lifechanging amounts of money, and Holostars and ID have no prospects as independent streamers
>>90546610Homobeggars just want to see Hololive destroyed so there's no more all-girls group anywhere.
>all cgdct leaving>homo enabler stays
>>90541334One of the most overrated vtubers of all time. Literal whore that only knows clout chasing.
>>90546277Yeah, I already figured it out after aqua. It doesn't help that yagoo considers her a possible candidate for head of hololiveJP. I'm sure his only reason is that she is one of the few holos that collab with their precious homos. I hope at least that japs wake the fuck up and start to demand some serious answers because that's the only thing that would make cover to be more upfront or 'honest' in whatever they are planning.
>>90546630>>90546569>>90546605>>90546558i'm sorry you're having a bad day, would seeing this help you
>>90546903Look at it from a business point of view, all the people graduating have already reached peak potential and brought tons of paying customers to COVER, so who cares if they leaveBut da bois have yet to realize their potential and when they do profits will go through the roof because they're tapping a new market segment
>>90546959Kek. Raptor legs too strong.
Only winners of 2024 are:>Phase Connect>VshojoWow
>fauna using the same exact phrase as aquait's so fucking over aqua was the beginning of the end
>>90547122They're leaving because they can't even talk about men without their fans having a melty. These girls are approaching their 30s and their ovaries are shrinking.
Fuck this shit, I'll just back to reading incest vns. At least those bitches will be around forever.
GGCC 10k dorya... I'm not really in the mood.
>>90546995However, it COULD be a fatal illness stemming from malnutrition and lack of physical fitness.
>>90547082Anybody that isn't a slackjawed retard knows Gura has something coming out next year and she isn't gone before then. After is a different story.
Man I don't even know. I still have some girls that I really like in Holo but Fauna was what really got me into vtubers after having watched the occasionally myth clip and stream back in the day.Fuck man this is gonna be rough
>>90547179Not really.
>>90546277Its been like that for a long ass time
>>90547151But enough about Elira.
>>90547122
>>90547179i would rather see fauna...
>>90547179a bit to be honest
>>90547218That is not what hers says though we can all read
>>90547262Yeah? Her too i dont give a fuck.
>>90546052/#/ won't care. Susei and Niori is right afterall that management is not at fault.
>>90544854i never left brother
>>90546277I mean Yagoo let go off Aqua, that alone should tell you that Fagoo cant be trusted
>>90546815The message is fine, but posting it in chat is Holoanti behavior and I hope xhe ropes swifty
>>90544561>everything up until now was a miracle>but now it's over and everything is normalthat nip summed things up well.
>>90547070because Cover has gone from vtuber idol to an actual idol company practices
>>90547224Honestly, it will be hard to forgive them for letting the homobeggars win after how cruel and fucked up their behavior has been for years.
>>90547017As far as I know, Chloe also liked to dance and sing.
Never been much of a Fauna guy, but it's a damn shame. I'll miss her. /#/ will be unusable for a while.
>>90547181Nah if girls with good standing are leaving unhappy then all the box fans get less inclined to spend money one by one. If your number 3 and 5 leave in the same month because a shitty company of 600 parasites can't accommodate basic things you are most certainly not going to paypig their metaverse or card game.
>>90546959Lore accurate
So, what does this say about the ones who are still in Hololive?
>Yikes this is a bad look for Holoeven the normies in chat are nooticing
>>90547237Fuwawa get off 4chanwhat's some of your favorites?
>>90547360how does that track with aqua being the first (or second, don't remember) to ever have a sololive?
>>90547390Yeah, Chloe is one of the few holos to do a live live. You don't do that unless you're invested in the whole concert thing.
>>90547426nothing in particular, other than that they have different circumstances.
>>90546277>as long as im a millionaire you can put your faith in hololive
>wanted to finish the tree >actually playing fucking Leagueshe's so out
>>90547082lolshe's not popular demandthey laughed at her face when she asked for game permsfull color is dead before arrivalthe shark is negligible
>>90546509THIS WILL BE THE NEW UNIT
>>90544577yup, and they can if the goal is just money. they absolutely can suppor themselves. Its a worse issue on the EN side than it is on the JP side because HololiveJP has grown to heights where Hololive can provide more than money, but the EN side isn't there, and likely will never be. Plus perms issues are just seen completely differently, there is no way around that. HololiveEN is at a big natural disadvantage that it has somehow made work until now, but it seems like the dam has broken. Its not an easy solution of 'just change the direction of HololiveEN' either, because that will absolutely lead to fuwamoco's graduation, calli's graduation, Kiara's graduation, and gura's if its true that she only remains due to the idol stuff.More too I'm sure, but basically this is just a great schizm in desires finally coming home to roost.
>>90547351Yep, pretty much. It's just Cover changing from being the one and only vtuber corpo, to being just another nip corpo that happens to be in the vtuber business.
>>90546108>everything gets blocked and then nothing comes outPeople don't understand how this massively kills off motivation to continue especially when it's all for the most retarded reason like brand risk, it's too risky or no reasons at all to Gura who's been in the game for years.
>>90547397Ame is good but Nerissa , Shiori , Raora, Gigi are bad ? lmao
>>90547017Anyone that stays probably drank the corporate koolaid
Crazy how everyone is leaving
Ok, with Fauna going, let's stop sugarcoating it, other members will follow.>Mumei and Gura aren't coming back long termI can see Gura wanting one last Holofest, but she's tired of all this.>Ina probably isn't extending after the visa fiascoI don't see anyone leaving in 2025 from ID, and probably not from JP either, even though Choco and Matsuri are more active on their alts.At worst, Pekora, if they actually take streaming away from her, but she has a good balance now.
>>90547542I'm telling you, I knew it was over when the Minecraft collabs stopped.
It must suck to be Justice/FlowGlow
I just had a funeral man. My life sucks.
>>90547017Didn't Chloe was one of the few who did a real-time live? If that was the case wouldn't she stay longer despite her throat?
>>90547390People that make those kinds of posts are clearly tourists. Whatever this is clearly isn't about idolstuffs. Something else at the core of the company has become rotten.
>>90546851Literally the only thing that makes me think it's not a graduation is that i'm not sure if cover would let fauna announce her graduation right after chloe
>>90547653What did he say?
>>90547397its not looking good for EN
>>90547426Nothing.
>hlgg lost its thread darling>numbers is losing its thread darlingTHEY ARE
>>90547635shion is likely to go as well. esp after losing aqua and chloe.
The sad thing is that Cover won't learn until it's too late, if they even learn at all.
>>90546365>No, maybe she really does just have insane workload.great jokebut she really is just a lazy grifter
And somehow still 0 graduation / termination for IDwild
>>90547179Not really because this is Fanart of someone that wants her to graduate
YAGOO hired all the niji staffs
I feel like between the games she keeps talking about wanting to play and the voice lessons and whatnot this seems really out of left field?
Is this Yagoo's move? He couldn't beat Selen shock so he's comboing Mel->A-chan->Aqua->Ame-Chloe->Fauna-and possibly more?I think this is overkill. How can niji ever top thisfind out on the next episode of YAB-gi-oh
>Two of the recent EN graduates are close friends with Gurais no one going to talk about this?
>>90547653This clip is old as shit. Negligible homonigger bait
>>90547635
>the ones who want to be idols aren't happy and leaving>the ones who just want to stream aren't happy and leavingat this point how do you right the ship and stop sinking?
>>90547091I honestly i could see this actually happening lol
>>90546400I got shit on by /#/ for saying cover wasn't focusing at the most important thing which is their talents. They'd rather invest in everything else than revise their rules and provide good support
>>90547672sorry for your loss anon
>>90547781Gura hasn't graduated yet though?
>>90547795All they know is posturing and lying to investors about their millions of subs
>These girls are the future of ENIs the branch safe in their hands?
>>90547808because the IDs can live like kings on scraps
>>90547874Did she recently get a new vocal coach because if so then I'm willing to go deeper towards hiatus
>my promise
>>90547797keep sticking your head in the sandmake sure you lick Yagoo's boots clean
>>90546831>>90545561Reminder that Mirai Akari went to managment asking for more freedom and they decided to close the whole project, cutting their own jobs, then let a woman have more of a say.
question for all saplings, will you guys stop watching chuubas all together or maybe move to advent or justice?
>>90547962I don't see Rissa staying for much longer as well being real
>>90547408Lol actually you're wrong, as our newly-hired TCG fatcat exec knows, the effects will be negligible because TCG fans will buy cards if you make cards with popular characters on them, thankfully we now have affiliate status so we can still make cards with that IP i was being sarcastic anon
HoloEarthHoloTCGHoloPlushie merchThese are the biggest investments of Cover and guess what they all have in common"dont need any talent input, just the image rights"This was the plan which no fan thought about but now its becoming clear
I honestly feel sick. I don't want this to be real but if it is maybe that explains why Mumei has just phased out of existence from sadness.
good luck for 3D concert without Hololive
>>90547899you don't. we already hit the iceberg.
>>90546400don't feel very good but its a more abstract worry about the health of EN. My oshi is fine though, so I'm fine.
Cover massively massively fucked up.
>>90547997>the broken promiseFuck me.
>>90547651Weird. Anyway, I bet there's a certain fanbase right now who used to hate indies, call them whores, etc, but now suddenly loves them. Can't say who, though.
