They are turning on him. Twitter is yelling at him.Where did it all go wrong?
Blackrock
where it went wrong was when cringe ass faggots called him “best girl” and continued beating this dead and shitty joke into the ground
>>90613647when the suits started making decisions
>>90613647He doesn't even call the shots, he's essentially the king of a constitutional monarchy, he's just a figurehead, Twitter is retarded as usual.
hiring useless 600 workers to run the company
A-chan leaving was the death nail. Everything was unsalvageable after that.
>>90613647>Where did it all go wrong?going public
>>90613695genuinely the most retarded talking point ever pushed on /vt/
>>90613647>caring about bluetterAnon, these are the same fucks who'd call Niji a "black company " one minute and buy merch the next. They are unprincipled bitches.
>>90613647I saw this comingno one has GabeN status forever
>>90613875You're still seething?Give it a fucking rest, this has nothing to do with you.
>>90613825Oh no, not the Corporate Memphis.It's over.
>>90613895Gaben is smart for keeping his company private unlike shitgoo
>>90613790>death nail
>>90613895GabeN keeps his company private
>>90613750>Ceo>Absolute zero powerIs this the new fucking cope? Before Fauna announced her graduation you guys were willing to suck his dick while calling people pointing out the new direction as antis and refusing to acknowledge there is indeed a new direction.
>>90613790ESL freaks raiding /vt/truly end times
>>90613945I just hate twitterfags. I was using niji as an example. Another would be how they treated Pikamee pre and post graduation.
>>90614021Shut up, Panko.
>>90613647Launching Twitter.
>>90614116Literally who?
>>90614160Exactly.
>>90613647EN and opening the door to the fucking tourists.
>>90614027>you guys were willing to suck his dickNot me
>>90614361correct
>>90613695Don't Blackrock owns like 0.5%?And I bet nobody in Blackrock even knows what Cover is, they just bought a bunch of Jap companies as part of an Index or something.
>>90613854It's just some /v/ cross boarders. They've been screeching at blackrock for like 3 or 4 years now
>>90614406There was that one anon who posted a drawing of yagoo with a cut up gray sweater when asked if they're a yagoo dick sucker hours after Chloe's announcement but before Fauna's announcement. I didn't manage to save it for grudgeposting
>>90613647who would have guessed back to back graduations within a couple days would really set people off on-edge, after it was already feeling like there were uncomfortably too many this year -before- that.people need to let him know that if he's willing to sacrifice limitless talents in pursuit of some stupid concert or stock value, the fans aren't gonna put up with that and will start imagining a post-Cover world. we existed before hololive, we will exist after it, but it's up to yagoo to decide how long that process will take.
>>90613647nooo not the heckin redditman
>>90613647Not his fault, he hardly makes any of the decisions.
>>90614740>set people off on-edge?
>>90613647shit got mainstream, we shouldve gatekeeped harder
>>90613647Yagoo was never on your side, when you peel off the "haha funny meme guy" mask he's just another CEO trying to milk his company for everything its worth. Going public should have raised red flags a year ago.The amount of dumb niggers that will never understand that makes me painfully aware of the average age of the average /vt/ denizen.
>>90615314as in they're nervous and aggravated at cover. with mel/aqua it didn't really hit close to home, ame was sad but people could see it coming a year+ away, and chloe was again just not well-known to us. but fauna was a daily staple for a very long time and still considered very relevant and important to the branch. losing her seriously hurts, it'd be like if JP lost a staple, still-relevant member (maybe someone like okayu).
>>90613647His next con appearance is going to be real interesting. So long to the "Best Girl" status.
>>90615636if you think /vt/ likes him too much don't go to twitter or reddit or discord. although today for maybe the first time I've seen to this degree like 90% of the comments on his fauna tweet amount to "do better, stop fucking up, fix your shit"
>>90613647CEO worship has always been cringe. It may not be 100% his fault but this at least dispels the idea that he’s this infallible entity who’s your friend.
>>90613790The term is "death knell" since you don't seem to understand what you said wrong.
>>90613647>company goes public>becomes shitthis always happens and will always happen. Shareholders are scum that should all be executed for the damage they have done. Shareholders should NOT be allowed to interfere in how the company operates! it's time we changed the way ownership and management works!
>>90615738Yeah, he might get lynched even.
>>90615867>Shareholders should NOT be allowed to interfere in how the company operates!Look up Dodge v. Ford Motor Co., companies are court mandated to put the demands of the shareholders above those of the employees or customers.
>>90615858for all intensive purposes the misspelling didn't even matter since everyone understood anyway
>>90613825>globohomo art stylethe reddest of flags
>>90616145It certainly is a doggy-dog world. Mistakes like this are a diamond dozen.
>>90613647Only sisters are terminal online twitter tards
>>90616323> Twitter tards> Posting on the cesspool of the interwebs, 4chanHave some self-awareness.
>>90613647He's not management
>>90615942No. Sentiment is turning away from "Holy shit it's best girl Yagoo" but it's more confusion and a desire for answers than anger at him personally.He'd get swarmed with people demanding answers, not get attacked.
>>90613647Good, CEO worship is subhuman behavior
>>90613647>blackrock investors>dei bullshit>make a base in commieforniawent woke gone broke
>>90616643>cesspool of the interwebslol4chan is just reddit with optional usernames, you can't even say nigger on this board anymore without risking a ban from a flaky mod
>>90613647Funny how they think he has power when IIRC he holds less than 50% of the shares in Cover Corp.
>>90613647not anymore
>>90617751why would he be forced to sell in 2023 when hololive was already doing well?
>>90613647MiComet
>>90615729>Aqua>not relevantRetard.
>>90613647i thought it because they want to go to CN market again?
>>90617667you can, as long as you don't add the forbidden 3 letters in front
>>90613647>Where did it all go wrong?Myth
>>90613825>>90613970>>90616147The art styles the least of your worries retards. The problem that investors will ruin everything in the sake of short-term profit.
>>90619689he was minority ownermajority wanted to go public because this makes their shares of company to have value since they are now publicly tradedthis always happens with VC backed companies who want something from their investments
>>90613647Holy fuck not twitterfags!!! Anything but that!
>>90615867Would he make some of next holoENs niggress?
>>90617468Was no Holosummer this year due to blackrock pressure?
>>90613647All the leaks point towards him losing control of the company and being pushed out.
>>90620577So that's why there was no holosummer this year, for it is problematic for Jews?
>>90620615jews want to destroy everything straight men like so maybe
>>90620615>>90620577Absolutely braindead morons
>>90620615its simpleholosummer doesnt bring enough money and is controversial and risky thing for shareholdersyou are never gonna have it again
>>90620665Yeah. We could see niggress holomem with dreadlock in next year.
>>90620577You people really need to make up your minds if the Jews are driven by profit or cultural subversion. DEI and profiteering are two opposed values.
>>90620713we already have worse right now
>>90614494yeah it's even less than that. this is literally all on yagoo he owns the most shares by far.
New non binary talent soon
>>90620771Holo has fallen... billions must be holocaust'd.
>>90620741squeezing holos for max profit until they quit and cover shares are cheaper to buy so they can grab more and control more of the company for even more pozzed shit isn't contradictory
>>90613647>Where did it all go wrong?when the hobby got overrun by newfags who don't lurk and never saw korosans or El gatos streams/clips of them reminding you that nothing lasts forever so around ENs debuts
>>90620823Ironic that most black companies are woke. Why do Wokism make black corpos? NRS,Naughty dogs are black company infamous for crunch and woke.
>>90620713Is there even a black vtuber? That streams regularly?
>>90620836Holo has fallen. Billions must be holocaust'd,
>>90620577As always, when capitalism fails its someone else's fault. You look at the company, it's 98% Japanese owned, but no, it must be something else, not my precious CEO and investors being worms, look, one of the countless worthless worms is a Jew.
>>90620943Funny that most Black corpos are Woke. Why? Black lives matter, but staff lives doesn't?
>>90620943>98% Japanese owned>uses pozzed western DEI art where half the people are blacklol yeah okay totally consistent
>>90620911alexialife or something is a maried sheboon who does reaction streams on twitch
>>90613647(((Investors))) are running the show now.Talents can either bend the knee to the globohomo agenda or they get kicked out. They went after games, now it's vtubers turn. >To anybody who does not understand what's happening: (((they))) force companies to go public, then buy up their stocks, and finally dictate the rules.>It's already happened to game companies and it's happening again to vtubers.>Read this: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/436041404/>Props to Fauna and to those who will stand their ground. Expect woke bullshit indoctrination and sluttification from those who will bend the knee.
>>90620771This is still so hilarious to me. Among countless of her likes, there is a popular romance author, who made a bunch of novels.
>>90620771She would support BLM.
>>90621070That pic very explicitly says that author is FAMOUS FOR coalburning shit. Don't act like it was some random one shot that nobody knows about and the rest of her stories are high fantasy or some shit.
>>90621148Cuz Jews love this working culture ironically. Most woke companies are black companies as well.
>>90621022Yeah not someone holo would hire unless she has a Japanese husband
>>90621067Thanks for making me lose my time reading five posts that have nothing to do with the situation. I should have noticed it was worthless when you said "expect more sluttiness" when Hololive has been getting less erotic with time.
>>90621299Which is why they started forbidding the handcam streams and anything that showed real flesh, right? Because they are moving towards more flesh.
>>90613647oh no, not twitter! they don't even watch streams, how will he ever recover!
>>90621426When did that happen? Last one I remember was Pekora doing the watermelon rubber band thing which wasn't that long ago.
>>90613647He should have put his foot down when they came for Fauna. What a fucking waste.
>>90613647>Twitter is yelling at him. Where did it all go wrong?When tranny darling decided to fuck off. Noone gave a fuck just yesterday.
>>90621527>not allowing the talent to leaveain't that a nijisanji tactic? kek.
>>90621546He is not seething at Japan, just at retards that think a Japanese company can do no wrong, it must be some external force.
>>90613647Is Yagoo a figurehead?
>>90621756he is quite literally blaming japan while typing in racist engrish
>>90613647>They are turning on him.Post screenshots NOW!
>>90621809>RacistWrite that sentence in English then run it on a Japanese text to speech.
>>90621964sorry but if you're trying to deny the racism of that post then you're simply a mentally ill kike
>>90621809Yeah. Is Naughty dog Japanese company? Which was infamous for crunch? Bout NRS, they are using scorpion who is Japanese kombatant as representive, so seems legit.
How come nobody can come up with a corporate governance system that allows for democratic control of the company, while preventing the elected individuals from tanking the company's revenue?
>>90621870
>>90613647I'd wager it can be boiled down to>Block the girls from doing what they want>Don't support them when they want or need it
>>90613647>blackrock>DEI garbage>abusive overreaching management>not paying their staffI saw this coming the moment they debuted Sana and Irys
>>90613647When he tried to kill the unicorns and hired males and promoted them while also licking Chinese boots
>>90614072I remember some faggots saying she was never bullied or something
>>90622058>Only one nation can have bad companies, if American companies are shit, Japanese companies must be good
>>90622418Why are most black corpos woke? I cannot see this Terrible hybrid of East and West, in the name of Xel naga.
>>90622567Cuz Naughty dog is Sony's too.
>>90622418What about that do you disagree with? They define their diversity as their talents doing a variety of stuff.
>>90621070it's dogwhistle
>>90622664If we are going by that logic I can do it with any Holo. PekoRap? Rap is black music. Miko being obsessed with Los Santos? From a game that glorifies a bunch of black people and was made by a Jew. Marine saying she is Based? Based, comes from rapper Lil'B and is hood slang.
>>90622662patently not true when it's becoming increasingly clear that the "new direction" that people are quitting over means forcing everyone to work overtime for corpo slop instead of just letting them stream
>>90621148Have you seen Cover's shareholders?
>>90617468Why is it always Humanshitfornia instead of any other state
>>90622662>inclusive and diverseyou know what they mean, it's not about doing a variety of things
>>90620572YesObjectifying women is a big no-no so that's why you'll see less of that and more male pandering instead
>>90613647>Twitter is yelling at him.Good.
>>90613647Who's they? Nijisisters?
>>90613790no.. the real moment hololive went to shit is when they stopped making yagoo as the merch model.
Even JP are asking wtf is going on and shitting on them in the japanese announcement.
>>90622160What's bad about this? I only mind this shit when it's forced down the throat in entertainment
>>90622952Knowing how lazy management is, they picked a standard business form for the presentation and filled it.And if you answer to a DEI form isn't talking about how many spics and trans you have but some non answer about how you do a diversity of things, what I take from it is that it is not something you take seriously.
>>90622798Define corpo slop
>>90624046beats me, they always talk about needing to spend so much time in the studio yet I have no clue what comes out of itwhatever it is, it's corpo sanctioned and forced on them, not """"diversity""""
>>90623956now this is just pure copiumyou're ignoring the bread and butter politically loaded term "inclusivity"
>>90624432Call it whatever you want. I am involved in marketing, I know DEI/ESG are basically in all default forms these days, and Cover's one paragraph approach to the section came off to me as incredibly lazy, which is similar to what I do when my employer doesn't give a shit about the topic, except I actually like, say they have like, one disabled employee and donated to some tax fraud charity long ago.
>>90624730cover basically already turned into /pol/ the moment they started going political with DEI/ESG in their homepageit's the future that you chose for letting them set up shop in california
>>90613647I have a gut feeling he's being removed by greedy investors and about to be replaced with a yes man that only answers to them. In retaliation, he is sinking his yacht and willing to go down with it.
>>90624751You are trying too hard, I guess you aren't even /pol/, just a false flagger.
>>90613647Fauna isn't just my oshi. She's my kamioshi. She's so sweet, kind, absolutely silly. The Hololive I know and love would have given her the time and space she needed to sort through her problems. But it seems they're gone, replaced by a company that puts their bottom line first and the talent second. I refuse to see this as Hololive. This company calling itself Hololive isn't the one I began following years ago. Losing four talents in just a few months?! And Iroha being so stressed she couldn't even speak during her anniversary?!?! I expected to end the year hoping that the Niji talents would leave. I didn't expect to end the year hoping the Holo talents would leave. It's only getting worse, and I think it's only a matter of time until we hear Fubuki is leaving, confirming all our fears on just what the company has become.
>>90613647Stars
Is this the retard thread? The /v/ refugees are showing their ugly face and nothing makes sense.
>>90617468Why are chuds so angry? In fact, why is this hobby so infested with them?Aren't you the biggest unicorn wallets for liberal streamers like Fauna and Kiara? Why turn on them now?
Are you Holojobbers going to jump onto the VShojo bandwagon in 2025?
>>90624623>>90623956and i am involved in project management and contingency planning, and i can tell you we have stringent policies strictly banning politically charged slogans and other loaded keywords that could be misconstrued as alienating a specific portion of our marketed audience, especially regarding young and impressionable childrenif you're pretending that this bullshittery isn't political pandering, your manager would've fired you a long time ago with that flimsy excuse
>>90620449Basically this.The other option is to try and buy them out. Problem is if the company is doing well. Which Cover was. Theres no incentive for the VC investors to accept a buyout offer as they'll likely get more from the open market.
>>90620741>DEI and profiteering are two opposed values.No thing aren't. It's simply a corporation trying to gain as wide of an audience as possible, casting the biggest net they can. It's that simple. I don't know why people try to frame it as "they're taking the white man down" as a stupid shit like that. They don't even care about these people. They just care about a chance at bolster their numbers.
>>90627358>It's simply a corporation trying to gain as wide of an audience as possibleThat's the excuse they try to make when in reality it's all just political propaganda to make people vote in a certain direction. Lobbyists know no bounds and will exploit everything and everyone even your hobbies.
>>90627358How is excluding a specific type of race equivalent to "casting the biggest net they can"? That shit is the biggest lie they've come up with. Imagine making something like this including all races except black people with their affirmative action political pandering, how do you think they would feel? It's all only meant to divide and segregate people for money not much different from dividing people in wartorn countries and making them war against each other for profit.
it's easy to side with the talents against a company. all these people, especially on the EN side were failures until they joined Cover. never forget that.
They should've split Hololive in two, one for streamers and one for Idols.Oh wait, it was like that at first and they were at their lowest point until streaming made them what they are today.
>>90613647>Where did it all go wrong?
>>90628184>Excluding a specific type of raceWhat corp is excluding Whites and how?
>>90613647I hope he straight up posts what the problems are.No fucks given, he didn't even want to go public anyway.
>>90628802They already did, it's called holostars>>90628848Wrong map, it should be the map of California. It all started to fall apart soon as they "moved their operations" there.
>>90629050All religious cities need to go. Suffering and division wouldn't have happened if it weren't for them.
>>90628914>Call out opening a branch office in Commiefornia being a really bad sign for things to come>Get called a schizo>"Its just for logistics bro">Fast forward to nowI would be laughing, if I wasn't sitting in the same ship as those retards.
>>90613647I don't blame Yagoo, he just lost control of the train, that much is clear to me since his interview with Coco.
>>90613647
>>90613647People who ever did the whole "HAHA LUL BEST GIRL YAGOO" meme are fucking retarded.
>>90630452Tales as old as time
>>90613647>Leave for the week end>Come back all hell break looseAt this rate its going to go down as the most epic fail in the industry from man of the year for nips to a fuck up.
>>90613825>As the workshop began, employees chose between the three values, “Bold-spirited,” “United without boundaries,” and “Outcome driven,” and were divided into three teams. They were then split into groups of four to five to discuss these two points: “What specific actions or words embody these values,” and “Why do you think so?”>While some groups engaged in serious discussions, others digressed and engaged in small talk. Overall, everyone was relaxed, and conversations were lively. Groups were formed twice with different people to exchange opinions, which allowed employees to interact with those they do not usually speak to. There was also a segment to experience the values physically by asking everyone to “strike a pose that they think embodies the value.”
>>90613647He needs to start firing staff and cut down on administrative positions before it becomes a bog.
>>90629050Yeah just look at what a good job the Spanish and Portuguese did to the Americas, I am sure if Japan hadn't expelled and contained them they would be better off.
>>90616136>Look up Dodge v. Ford Motor Co.Hmmm...
>>90616136Probably the most damaging ruling in corporation history.
>>90632336?? I am looking at it and getting 2% at most. Crazy thing is how half of it is Chinese, never knew it was that bad.
>>90620801Most shares, but he isn't the majority.
>>90633723Which is also the biggest red flag. Major shareholders can band together to kick Yagoo out from leadership or just straight up go for a hostile takeover.
>>90613647The IPO. It was necessary to keep the company alive but sold its soul to do it. He is no long in charge, and answers to the investors.
>>90634071That's just the reality. I don't know shit about corpo business, but I assume if he went public with less than a majority share, he must have had no choice. So the problems started before.
>>90634594He didn't have a choice, he said it in the most direct manner possible.
>>90634757Ultimately all of this happened with him running the company. If he's not at fault then who is?
>>90613754>hiring useless 600 workers to run the companyThe funny thing is this kind of stuff happenedat a bunch of other companies I was watching since 2016.>company gets some success>hires a fuckton of useless retards>company implodes
>>90635569Says it right there, anon. Hololive got started with venture capital. Investors wanted public trading, or a full sale.
>>90613647>Turning on himBrother, I never liked him
>>90634757What a fucking retarded answer, you just get loans and pay off investors and if they demur then you simply sabotage the company untill they know that they wont get more than your offer. They can't go after you since this is public facing company, and you can flush it down the drain in a blink of an eye. There are companies much larger than cover that did just that. He's either incompetent or outright lying.
>>90634594I am going to simply a lot of things, but here's the gist of the whole issue and why most start-ups turn to shit.You have an idea for a great product or service, so you create a start-up company to start making that product or service.Just one issue: You are too fucking poor to get business started.Luckily there are venture capitalists out there, wealthy entities willing to give money to start-ups with good ideas in exchange for "a return of their investment". Now what is that return exactly? It's not just a simple loan, but a "purchase" of shares of the company. They give you cash to spend on your business in exchange for them now owning a part of your company.With funds secured, you start opening up for business. Your customers love your product and your company grows, which also includes its market evaluation. Remember those shares from earlier? Those are now worth more money too.At some point, the venture capitalists want their return of their investment. The shares they own in your company are now worth a lot of money on paper, but they can't really sell it to anyone easily. So what do you do now as a start-up owner?If you somehow managed to earn enough funds yourself, you can just buy out the shares of the venture capitalists and maintain full control over the company. This almost never happens because it requires a lot of money.Alright, you don't have that much money, but you still need to pay those venture capitalists. Now what?If you just want to retire, you can just sell the company. There are enough wealth management funds willing to buy profitable companies out there. You just sell your shares to them, giving you the cash to pay those investors, and take the rest home to enjoy life. Maybe create another start-up down the line.But what if you do want to continue running the company? You go public and list the company on the stock exchange. The venture capitalists can now sell their shares on the open market to get their investment back. Or just keep them to get an even bigger return from them down the lane. So what's the downside then?For one, you are now required to disclose the financials of the company. If those look good, the stock price goes up, and if they don't, they go down. Shareholders can now also leverage their shares to influence corporate decisions. Either directly, with voting power associated with their shares, or indirectly via threatening to pull out their investment which would crash the stock price.Cover, and Yagoo in particular is in a very bad position right now as he doesn't own an absolute majority of shares. Yagoo alone can't make executive decisions if everyone else tells him to fuck off. Worse yet, if he tries to do so, others will simply vote for him to be removed from office. He is forced to go down on his knees and suck shareholder cock or risk losing his remaining ability to manage Hololive.
>>90635708Then it's a failure of foresight, but it's still on him.
>>90636165Fair enough, not everyone is a business shark, and the people who are rarely create good things.
>>90634594Yeah because percentages of the company had already been promised to the VC's who funded the company.The IPO was when they cashed out.
Retards will say it started with homos. People who actually pay attention knew this would happen on the basis that Cover is a japanese company which comes with their whole corporate mentality. Those fuckers still use fax machines for fucks sake
>>90636425Oh yeah western corpos are doing so much better.... where exactly?
ok ok my bad
>>90636125Thanks.
>>90636125Venture capitalism sounds a lot worse than a bank loan, at least a bank loan and its interest can be paid off and it doesn't increase, and it doesn't hinder your ability to manage the company.
>>90637930It is worse if you want to be the sole owner, but no bank will lend you that much money without good collateral.
>>90613647>sold out to investors>talents are no longer people, just economic entities in a spreadsheet>"just work them harder and give them less money">"let's cuck to china"The dude probably thought he was going to make the company big, forgetting that selling it makes it someone else's company and they're far more impersonal. Dude sold his soul.
>>90628853most American companies pledged to hire more black workers after the 2020 BLM meltdown. who do you think they were going to stop hiring in order to make room for those? same goes for companies pledging to have X amount of women employees. they achieve this by not hiring men
>>90614027>Is this the new fucking cope?What cope. The whole point of a CEO is to do what the board tell him, he's their employee, not their leader.
>>90638046Unless that loan's for real estate.
>>90613647He was Gabe newell of vtubing, but when you go public it's not your company anymore.
>>90626780Investors should be flayed alive
>>90638343See >>90634757
>>90637930They're the only real way to raise the sums needed.Banks won't lend this kind of money and even if they did. They're gonna behave the same.If Yagoo wanted to salvage his reputation he'd leave Cover
>>90639868>Given direct, solid examples of the dangers of venture capitalism and the stock market>If you dislike this you must be a Tankie!Wake the fuck up anob
>>90613825The mark of the beast.
>>90641531wrong board poltard
>>90634444Checked and based
He used devil's money to launch the company. Now the devil wants his due and we're playing for it.
Going public.He overdosed on capitalism.
>>90634757>He didn't have a choicefirst of all nice reddit filenamesecondly he did have a choice and the choice was to fucking buy them out you dumb fucking faggot they were making money hand over fist for YEARS prior to going public. he just puts out that "oh we didn't have enough money to completely own our company" logic because nobody fucking knows how much (see: little) seed money he got from a variety of tech investors, because if they DID contribute a meaningful amount then you know what that means?cover would have fucking folded before hololive even became a thing. cover didn't make a dime until 2 years after the company started and hololive started picking up.
>>90613647When he opened the company to investors, we've been through this a million times just in the past 12 hours.
>>90642058The problem with that argument is the investors weren't inclined to take the deal as Covers position meant their share of the company would be worth a lot lot more than anything Yagoo could offer them
>>90642717i want to repeat something that's not getting through your stupid little head>cover would not have existed to the point of hololives foundation if the seed money was in the range of billions of dollarscover did not start making anything even remotely close to "money" until 2019, three whole years after the company was founded and around the same time since they went public. the 5 or 6 VC's that gave them seed money during that time did not give them money cover could not have paid back threefold over the course of 2019 to 2023, because if they did, they would have been giving cover hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars each (which is unreasonable for a startup tech company), and would have demanded a return within a year or two, especially for a sum of money that impossibly large.i am saying in no unclear terms that the VC's who invested in cover from 2016 to 2019 combined did not invest or demand as much as even half of the money cover made in 2020 alone, let alone 2019 and 2021-2022, meaning yagoo absolutely could have "bought them out" so to speak. these are companies that invest hundreds of thousands, not hundreds of millions. the simple quote for people whose brains are too small to comprehend this fact of venture capital investments is "yagoo lied".
>>90613647E-sports orgs can't even be profitable, and people really thought orgs of niche-audience streamers would be sustainably profitable without squeezing the talents too hard?It's honestly a shame though, too many corpo chuubas are going to was out into the indie scene and dilute it with their bland garbage content. Even worse, their pathetic fans might filter in and ruin the good vtuber communities now.
>>90622503I remember going to imgur and entering a Harry Potter thread where they claimed no one was bullied from playing the game, I told them they were wrong and provided screencaps of twitter bullying and in the classic liberal cope they said it wasn't real bullying
>>90643271AnonJust because he could afford to pay them back with the company's moneyDoes not mean they're going to accept the offer
>>90629050This
After "Aqua is mad about China" I think "Fauna is mad about DEI" gotta be the most hilarious case of not knowing who the talent is.There is nothing DEI cover could implement that would send away the atheist, vegan, anti-parasocial, male collabing, male (who thinks he is a female) collabing girl.
>my japanese vtirual idol girls don't believe in my western right wing nonsense!!>I'M MAD!!
>>90644978if a VC invests 100k into your company with absolutely no background in a completely untapped PR-focused venture and you offer them 100 million to get the fuck out three years later, guess what anon, there's a good chance they'll take it. it's not 100%, it's not even 50%, but there is absolutely no point in reality where yagoo absolutely without a doubt had to go public in order for the company to not completely shut down as a result.
>>90645132DEI schizos are showing they have the same mental capacity as number monkeys. /v/ is not sending their best
>>90641522ThisCompanies are forced to comply unless they force this mark
>>90613647>Where did it all go wrong?Becoming a publicly traded company.
Who are these people crawling out of the woodwork to defend Corporate Memphis art, or deflect from it?
>>906144940.5% too much.
>>90645305replace right wing with left wing and the I'M with DEI and you get it right
>>90613825
>>90613647he unironically believes>"kari chan kakkoi"
>>90613647Should have graduated someone less popular than Fauna, she's always been very popular with the twitter crowd
>>90613647When they went public
>>90613790>>90615858Wait that is a different saying? I always thought it was a variation on the "the final nail in the coffin" saying.
>>90620771Riona does seem like a niggaboo or whatever the term is for liking black hood shit. Not saying that she necessarily wants to fuck a nigga, just that she likes the hip-hop/rap aesthetic
>>90613825>Blackrock Globohomo artstyleIt's never been more over than it is right now...
>>90613825>>90646101why did they give this nigga a lame ass haircut
>>90646264baste
>>90623806Isn't it interesting how they only hire people with "certain" political opinions?When was the last time they hired an outspoken right wing vtuber?
>>90625180They attached themselves to Hololive because every other "hobby" was "stolen" from them. They are clearly just wayward /v/irgins with all the console war shit, numberfagging and culture war posturing.
What happened to the "no politics" policy cover? Why did you betray all of us? I fucking knew this would happen the moment you made a california branch
>>90634757Yagoo always has the option to just quit and start anew.
>>90620893Because they like the culture of fear and distrust that comes with it, Jeff Bezos has for example expressed that DEI practices are good because they stop workers from unionizing in a leaked email.Also because a higher ESG score = more investment since companies like Blackrock control the stockmarket.
>>90650391I've never seen anyone that uses either blm, acam, commie, tranny or pride flag even on twitter ever do or say anything good. They're toxic, obnoxious and always start shit with people minding their own business. They definitely don't belong anywhere near hololive. Yet cover seems to want to start this war by pandering to their blackrock investors and ignoring their no politics rule. I would gladly burn cover to the ground if it meant they get to burn down as well. Kill the cancer from its roots.
>>90613695Or Blackrock wannabes
>>90616136But isn't that just USA?
>>90622595Virtue signalling to hide shady shitClassic
>>90613647it all started in 2022 with him pushing StarsEN trying to get that luxiem fan base but the only sisters he got were in management and theyve been fuckings things up repeatedly since then
Going Public = NYC Bankers control youThe ones that turn profits to gold holdings and send money to nephew in Jerusalem.
>>90640027GabeN should be something everyone needs to learn from, but doesn't.
>>90634757I know most of you are too retarded to start a company but if you do, unless you're there to pump and dump, never take equity finance. Literally every other alternative is better. You can't let the thing you care about be at risk to a parasite. There is literally no way Yagoo didn't have any options to not take the company public.
>>90648978"Final nail in the coffin" is a completely different saying. A "death knell" is a church ringing its bell to announce a death. It's a loud sound signaling a death to all. There's no such thing as a "death nail."
>>90613647>twitterSISTERS
>>90615858"death nail" is likely a translation from another language.I don't know that guy's language, but "the last nail to the coffin" is a legitimate idiom where I come from.
>>90653677No. "Death knell" is a saying. "Death nail" is nothing. Its a misunderstanding. Like you said, it's a merging of two sayings because you thought they were the same thing.
>>90634947These are Japs, not Jews. Just as aggressive when it comes to sucking the life out of the companies they latch onto though.
>>90645987>posting LoonaWhy are you trying to get me bricked up?
>>90653467thanks I learned something today
lmao
"...we had no choice but to go public or sell, but we are grateful to be able to go public and continue the company."
>>90630452Even if streaming makes very little direct money for them compared to merch and events surely they realize that streaming is what creates those rabidly loyal fans that then buy all those plushies and concert tickets right?I mean if a pleb wagie like myself can figure it out surely multi millionaire investors can't be that dumb.
>>90657665>No choice but to go public or sellSo they were losing so much money that they were about to shut down.How? I thought Hololive was profitable?No wonder investors are trying to change shit if they don't the company's gonna collapse within a year from gross mismanagement anyway.
>>90645132It’s not that Fauna’s against it but rather that the result of it is hiring incompetent people running the business into the ground
>>90648978Final nail in the coffin implies that there have been a number of unfortunate events regarding a situation and the last event is the catalyst for drastic change, the final event being the 'final nail'.
>>90658343the investors don't care. they want profit next quarter and don't care about next year.
>>90658396No cover was originally a technology company that was funded by venture capital. They then stumbled into the vtuber industry and shifted into talent management and multimedia. So even though cover grew tremendously and made piles of money a majority of its shares are owned by investors not Tanigo or anyone directly linked to cover. A majority of those investors wanted to go public and Tanigo either couldn't afford to or didn't want to buy them out so he had no choice but to go public.>>90658721Not necessarily I always look for stable companies with long term prospects, day trading and short term trading has been statistically proven to be an inferior strategy the only reason it exists is so investment firms that live off of fees can milk money from boomers and retards.
>>90613647Why tho? He hasn't been the hnic since they went public. Hell, anyone could've seen this would eventually happen, especially after that thing a year or so ago where the shareholders weren't happy with how much the talents were getting paid and he had to try and justify the amount. Did you think those people just shut up and went away? They've been building support and gathering power and now it looks like they've started changing things to suit their own ends. Yagoo and the people he started cover with aren't in charge now and likely haven't been for quite some time. Whereas the old timers might've started cover/Hololive because they wanted to do cool things with technology and make their waifus real the people they answer to now-- vc bro investors-- are only interested in getting paid. You want to yell at him over this, fine, but it's not going to change anything.
>>90613647>New directionYeah. To hell.
>>90623689that Nbinted troon.
>>90614740see you in the next concert
