It's over, isn't it?
>>90630096whoho
>>90630096The writing has been on the wall for a long time at this point
>>90630096
Slowly been following modelers and animators, now recently following graduated members from EN. Its over
>>90630096Yes gura is out after valentines stream
>>90630096>isreal
>>90630351My question is why wouldn't she just start streaming as Senzawa again instead of reincarnating?
How unusable is the board going to be if Gura actually graduates?
>>90630583She's probably just getting a new model for Senzawa (maybe a blue shark)
>>90630583Probably just a 2.0 rework, the Sen model is like 5 years out of dateOr a new character, but back in the before times she was kinda sad to have to change her skin, its been a while though so maybe she wants an update
>>90630096Not like she's going to stream anyway if she graduates
>>906306257th trumphet level of alert
I kinda want Cover to get a real wakeup call because it's obvious there's some real problems
>>90630096also why are all women streamer names the same
does she follow doki yet
how long until LemonLeaf has another anti-parasocial meltdown and as a result resorts to classic cuck ASMR?
>>90630583pretty sure they cant vtube on pl while in hololiveother pl activities are fine such as fleshstreaming and posting videos etcsource: i pulled it out of my ass so might be incorrectcant think of a single case where an active holomem has streamed as another chuuba
>>90630096Just have them all graduate and make a "we have holo at home" indie group at this point.I really like Fauna's model though, if she goes back to her old one or a remake of it, I'm honestly gonna have some trouble getting used to it.Even Dooby who looks 95% like Ame doesn't quite fill the void.
>>90630825IRyS?
>>90630096>isrealHoly fuck.
>>90630791I remember this one video an anon posted shortly after Fauna's debut where LemonLeaf mocked viewers for leaving after she mentioned her bf on stream. It was pretty brutal. I wish I'd saved that video. It really makes you wonder if she'll change her tune now.
>>90630096>The #1 Gura wasn't just a shitpostIf Gura leaves, it's total implosion
>>90630825AZKihttps://youtu.be/G9jSDLJgTFk
>>90630746Gura has pretty much soft graduated already; people will be pissed but it wouldn't be as big a shock if she'd been streaming full time first.
>>90630825There's at least three historic examples of this not being the case.
>>90630764No, but Fauna does >>90630971
>>906301682view nobodies.
>>90630625It's be more Aqua reaction than Fauna reaction. Gua's been checked out for a while now, nobody would be surprised.
>>90630906What for real?Salute to the guy willing to date a vegan.
>>90630402>The Writing>The Wall>The Writing being physically located on said Wall>The Writing that is physically located on said Wall being there for an extended period of time
>>90630876(me)my bad she doesnt seem to actually use the other vtuber model despite streaming on the other vtuber (not so vtuber i guess then) account
>>90630625Nothing but shitposts and bait threads for at least a couple of weeks if not more. Makes sense though since it'll pretty much mark the true end for Hololive in the west. Whatever she chooses to do afterward has the potential to be even worse.
>>90630096Goodbye goomba...
>>90631124Yeah it was something she was apparently very open about and used as a cudgel to own the parasocials. Cover took a real gamble hiring her even if it worked out in the end.
>>90630971and Moonaand Irys
>>90631023true, it's a least a 6th trumphet. A 7th would be a sudden and unexpected one, like a Sora or a Foobs
>>90630625Well...>Before Chloe and FaunaI think literally no one would care except for normies. Chumbuds here (if there are any) will just feel jaded because the past 3 years has been on-and-off wishywashy shit.>After Chloe and FaunaSame as above, but now everyone (normalfags and anons) will push the narrative HARD of "Cover being evil behind the scenes" whether true or not. But obviously 3 talents graduating so quickly isn't a good look
>>90630625Chumbuds are the loudest and most annoying gaggle of SEAfags around, so the board will become as useable as /jp/ was in 2019.
>>90631224>cover didn't want her to mention her new bf yeah, me on stream so she left
>>90630096I hope every chumpedo ends themselves when it happens.
>>90631377>the board will become as useable as /jp/ was in 2019.They deserved it!
>>90630583Holofans start rumors and start making noise and causing trouble. She wants to amicably leave. That's her final gift to Hololive and the remaining talents, even after years of mistreatment.
>>90630825Azki and Matsuri.Azki's was a while a go (before officially becoming Hololive IIRC) but Matsuri's is VERY recent.
>>90630096Kino duo incoming, but I hope she can get a more mature, leaf-colored redesign. I don't think this pink loli works in her favor, and it would be a better contrast to Senzawa, who's a pretty good fit personality-wise.
I assume that at this point every sane person knows Mumei and Gura are also leaving in 2025You'd have to really force yourself to be blind to cope around it
>>90630583her avatar is stolen from hinako note so she'll probably get filian'd the minute Comic Cune finds out that she's been merchandising their character
>>90630825Mori streamed with ironmouse and everyone in chat pointed out the obvious.
>>90630625Would be an improvement, unironically. Having her just stagnate isn't fun for anyone except shitposters.
>>90630825This guy is right. No live2d/3D vtubing while you're a holo. You can do pngs or flesh though.
>>90631633She changed it enough to be legally distinct, I'd say. Not like Filian who just shamelessly pirated a pre-existing avatar.
>>90630625>boardlolThe entire site and every site thatleeches off it will be unusable for a week.
>>90631633>blue eyes>star pin>stolen
>>90631383Watame chan why would you do this to me t.t
>>90630096Not holo don't care
>>90630096GURA’S REIGN IS OVER IT’S FUWAMOCO’S ERA NOW
>>90631613At this point I hope they are. It's the only way we can get Fauna/Gura/Mumei/Ame collabs ever again.My respect for cover/hololive is officially rock bottom.
>>90631759grim
>>90631633filian was a worst situation, i feel like Kuina and Senzawa are legally distinct enough.
>>90631377That's not a nice thing to say about ruffians.
>>90631759Oh so that is why hololive feels so soulless and off now.
>>90631613>MumeiI don't see why she wouldn't try to ride Hololive till it stops being profitable after she finishes her studies.unless maybe Dooby, Doki and Mint make stupid numbers this/next year, holo is still her best option.>Gurayeah she's gone. probably just finishing up some projects before becoming an Affiliate like Ame.
>>90631684>no live2dSee >>90630971
>>90631855She's not becoming an affiliate. She's graduating and not giving the black company the satisfaction of leeching off her IP.
We're so back broshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps7zhDeCK0M
>>90631773Meh. It would be Twitch shit and also have collabs with the trash there like filian or the vshojo circles etc.I'm not keen on it overall.
>>90630096Who(res)?
>>90631945What a strange collaboration choice this was.
>>90631377>Chumbuds are the loudest and most annoying gaggleFuck are you smoking? Chumbuds just sit in their general hugbox, occasionally dealing with disc raids. Every time I asked for people to show me any recent proof of them being annoying, there is nothing.
>>90631633Legally distinct inspiration, while Filian was literally the same pre-made model. No one would entertain any kind of lawsuit regarding Senzawa, you can't copyright blue hair, tufts or ahoge.
>>90632001She explained it. Belle slid into her DMs and she just said okay. That's the kind of spur-of-the-moment thing she can never do since becoming a holo.
>>90631613The problem with theories about why Mumei would leave also require her to give up on indie vtubing as well. Gura already quit years ago.
>>90631689>>90631779>>90632045hell, Filian, gosegu and someone who shall not be named all shared the same model at one point
>>90630825Several of the holostars do it regularly >inb4 holostars isn’t hololiveTrue, but upper management have the same reporting line, at least, so you might expect some consistency of rules
>>90631920She's has practically been her status for 3 years now.why would she stop quite literally free money.If Ame did, She'd follow suit.the only other person I see graduating in Promise is Kronii if the fallout is bad, but she seems happier than ever recently.although we haven't seen another affiliate like Ame (Chloe will stop new merch, so she's practically graduated)
>>90632045dunno how japanese law works but there's proof on her channel of the outfit and accessories being changed only slightly. That with the marketability of senzawa leads me to believe there could be onenot that I know if they'll even care, the artist for hinako note makes porn of the characters now anyways
>>90631633Okay Nintendo
>>90632115No, why?Mumei is simply friends with Doki/Ame/Gura/Fauna/Mint and will join them in their new vtuber friends group they want to start in 2025.
>>90632155Why are you formatting like a faggot?
>>90631945Belle Delphine was cool when she was still only edging the internet
>>90631759always has been
>>90632018>Fuck are you smoking?Ah, so you don't understand just how massive and underaged The Goob's audience is. Well, I'm not petty enough to grudgepost you when the inevitable happens.
>>90632215maybe I am, I'm too much of a coomer that I've jacked off to IRL traps.I need to stop jacking off so much.
>>90632096... sounds like a + for her staying with covet
>>90632356Nah. Black company deserves to die.
>>90631759BAU BAU
>>90630583The real question is why would she start streaming again at all when the reason she stopped has nothing to do with being employed at hololive.
>>90631947Even more reason for me to hate cover for ruining everything
>>90632422what was her reason? (I don't watch her outside of karaokes/collabs)
>>90631759So idolshit and endless voicepacks/merch? No wonder vtubing sucks I want 2020 peak EN back...
>>90630096Members who are learning Japanese are staying with the company. Members who don't care about learning Japanese are going to leave. Simple as
>>90632422Yagoo cum guzzler, please remove yourself and refrain from commenting.
>>90631759>FUWAMOCO’S ERA NOW>couldn't get their 1m goal with a year with 2 people>no one else in their gen is even closewow what a thrilling new era this is
>>90632516Dead-enders that don't have any self-worth or recognition of their own value are staying in the company.
>>90632516Ya members who want EN to be sidecar to JP will stay I guess, which is why I'm ditching holo
leaf also follows the orc
>>90632491burnt out from streaming, going independent doesnt fix that.
>>90632625no she doesn't
>>90631124Yeah. I kinda feel bad for him tbdesu
>>90630971>shes gonna stream on twitchYES SEAFAGS GET FILTERED LMAO
>>90630694She hates sharks. She wanted to be a cat.
> Gura orchestrated the removal of Omega so she could manipulate holos to graduate
>>90632677blindchama
>>90630625They may have to actually implement rangebans even if only temporarily and even then that might not be enough.
>>90632659Maybe livestream Mocap sex with dooby will.
>>90632798member streams said shes gonna be a sunflower
>Holosummer dead with no explanation, and with that no updated swimwear, and no swimwear at all for new members>members should be getting individual swimwear like before, now that the company has a lot more resources and money, but nope>VSPO can do that though for their talents, but not Cover>Holo marika is dead>Holo Sports Fes is dead>one month late on announcing New Year's Countdown line-up; might not happen at all>Fes still not announced>newer members aren't getting outfits in a timely fashion at all>still many delays on 3D lives and many members not able to do them on the important day itselfIf you're still a Holofan, maybe you should worry more about the company itself rather than what members are choosing to do for their own sake.
>>90630791I hope on redebut, so it filters all the filthy unicucks out of the leaflets or whatever her fans will be called.
what other streams was she close with besides shondo?
>>90632659Psst, that's her saving your black company's reputation. See how you are blaming her instead of the company?
>>90633002Unfortunately, she likes Nyanners
>>90632987Yeah, but what about Nijisanji? Nijisanji is really bad. At least Hololive is no Nijisanji. Think about that instead.
>>90632516you WILL learn Japaneseyou WILL danceyou WILL singwhy is yagoo like this? Are all japs obsessed with idol industry that much?
>>90632406OK ,whore
>>90633291men can't be whores
>>90630096Gura couldn't even handle working 2 hours a day, obviously she's getting the fuck out of there now that they're tightening up the belt and making them actually work for real.
>>90631633>so she'll probably get filian'dother than GSC dropping her Nendoroid, she got away with it.
>>90630625It would stop being a Holo board.
We are at the gates of total corpo destruction, holy shit is happening.
>>90632516More like Asians who are used to being corp slaves will stay.
>>90630336>>90630351>>90630583>>90630096OH NO NO NO AHAHAHAHA
>>90633616PHASE CHADS RISE UP
>>90632516>learning Japanese
>>90632018The 40yo pedos in the gura thread are not the same as the endless mass of underage casuals who form the majority of her fanbase.>>90631674This is just her natural state now.
>>90632159It's about the same level of redesign as Neuro-sama's new model, with the added bonus of the inspiration not being related to vtuber models at all, so it's not like they can claim to have stolen and slightly modified anything. And they could just make the point that the Hinako Note character in turn was stolen from Konata of Lucky Star, another blue-hair ahoge :3 schoolgirl. The design is just too general.
>>90630906>girl who seems nice is actually fucking evilLmaoWhy are they always like this, no wonder women say they would have bullied her back in school.
>>90632759>all the graduated holos and nijis become phase/vshojo-liteGRIMPippa and Lemon collab when?
>>90633777Didn't know Mori was a jap
>>90633976Well, it shouldn't have been too surprising from her friendship with Shondo.
>>90633976that's why I only used Fauna as fap material, whores don't deserve much more
It really is the end of an era...
>>90633449sorry whore I already told the American-Statesman. a doctor is on the way to cut your cock off and make you a vaginaI shall pray that you aren't a jeet so you won't get raped to death
>>90630825as far as explicit vtubing with full blown rigged l2d/3d model you may be right. kronii, for instance, just uses a static image unless she's gaming, in which case she uses nothing. i'm pretty sure coco used kson a few times though with a rigged avatar, but that WAS a long time ago.
>>90634269they used to hate each other for a bit before becoming friends again
>>90633002
>>90632987>projects like Bloom and Blue Journey that were supposed to promote original music are dead
>>90632939is it possibleto watch this member stream anywhere as a non member?
>>90632987>fes still not announced it is. watch streams vspo fag
>>90630906Oh she had a "We can't be friends" on LL before Fauna? BASED BASED BASED BASED
>>90634460They've been friends again for at least a year now. LL made an appearance on Shondo's birthday stream last year.
So the new top independent vtuber is gonna be a loli cat with blue hair and a trident foot some reason?
kekfeet wonhttps://warosu.org/vt/thread/89708929
>>90633931shhh it's an original and unique design
>>90631556>Matsuri.She is on a different contract than the other Holos because she (somehow???) manages to convince Cover to renew under the original terms of her old contract every time it's up for renewal so i wouldn't use her as an exampleSome like Azki and Irys were also under unique contracts but unlike Matsuri i have no clue if that is still the case
>>90634660proof ?
>>90634288Genuinely don't understand what makes them like this though. Like men exist to fund their exist of fun. Is it because fathers never discipline their daughters nowadays? And then they get walled and blame men for 'abandoning' them. Sad! Well it probably won't happen to Lemon, at least as a vtuber she can keep up an illusion to her cuckboys.
>>90630906She’ll probably change her tune considering how much money she would make
>>90634463Fauna liked Stronny? What about Pillow? I want to know if all the faunaclones are in one box.
eh gura is rich enough that she can comission a new model if she wanted its not exactly a issue
>>90634575The line-up. My bad. I should be specific. The line-up.
>>90634693The top indie vtuber is Cookieswirl followed by Ironmouse.
>>90635067There's no saving someone as retarded as you, so no additional explanation needs to be provided
>>90631759I was so excited for FWMC at the start but eventually realizing they will never ever drop their kayfabe outside of genuine accidents killed any interest.
>>90635241Uh oh roastie melty.
>>90635148Every single graduated holo has more than enough money to get a new model with Doki or Sayu tier rigging if they wanted. It might cost them as much as a new car, but they have hundreds of thousands stashed away.
>>90635277>they will never start using roastie voices while talking about how they support queer rights in japan so fuck them!Normalfags lmoa
>>90634895Shondo fucked up the playback but it's clearly Lemonhttps://youtu.be/hGcutchEBGk?t=13051
>>90632159I think you forget that japanese law doesn't matter anymore if she goes back to senzawa. as long as it's legal in usa, she can do it.
>>90635130I believe Fauna was making RP ASMR first, then Stronny arrived shortly afterwards then Pillow. Pillow started her channel in 2020 but became a vtuber only last year. She's now one of the most successful indie vtubers on youtube, but Fauna will take that title from her soon although she's obviously came from Hololive. Fauna would be retarded not to stream on youtube.
>>90635475At the very least she'll put VODs on youtube. A lot of people consume twitch tubers that way.
>>90634491>Gura #1 Fan>Not HoloLive #1I'm noticing.
>>90635277keyfabe is what makes them good and different from regular fleshtuber whores with vtuber avatars
>>90635453I was under the impression they made amends but were not gonna be friends ever again, shit about grooming and stuff. And Shondo said this like one or two months ago. Or am I mixing it with someone else?
>>90635365bitch please if yagoo told these weebs to shill some dei blackrock slop they would do it don't act like if these soulless corporate characters are above it.
>>90635729>hurr durr it's differentKayfabe is bullshit outside of occasional references. It's inauthentic and infantile. All vtubers are normal human beings, with normal lives, normal boring responsibility and most of them have normal SOs. If you prefer kayfabe over real talk, you're part of the idol corpo problem
>>90635475Pillow is a new normie on the scene and it's really obvious how she's only starting to acquire vtuber meta skills relatively recently with relative success It's interesting to watch her development
>>90632987>canceled niji concert
>>90635905Don't know, maybe. The birthday video message from LL was all I knew about.
>>90635905Grooming?
>>90635941rope yourself normalfag
>>90636155It was a toxic relationship. Shondo was pretty sure she was getting groomed at some point.
>>90635967Pillow really isn't good at most ASMR techniques. She is entirely carried by her fake voice and the embarrassed girl act she puts on. Her usage of toys is primitive, to the point where she's even being shown up by some of the girl she had in her vtuber 101 class. Fauna's ear rubbing and blowing are consistent and slow to get the most out of the experience. They both do positive affirmations, which I can't comment on cause I hate that shit. If Pillow used her real voice I might give her another chance, but until then I'll stick with the more proficient one.
>>90636221Your kind is dying and you know it. Corpos are the ones that force kayfabe. Indies always end up dropping it shortly after debut. Guess what timeline were in right now? Get fucking fucked unicuck nigger.
>>90634088Mori and Kiara are special cases since they were failing nobodies before Holo.
>>90636312yea, just like fauna "groomed" gura after getting into hololive, aka made an effort to become her friend.
I started saving a year ago to go to Japan and by extension Holofes 2026 but it's looking more and more like there won't be anyone I care about left by then...
>>90636312Jeez, Shondo is a shitstirrer.
>>90636221>posting the literal most famous example of kayfabe breaking as a defense for kayfabe being an iron ruleIf you want to rope yourself for being a normalfag, please do it somewhere else. I've seen enough pathetic wastes of flesh in my life.
She’s done everything but shout from the rooftops that she’s leaving.
>>90631759Baused
>>90636762The difference being Gura wasn't a literal child
>>90636312>Shondo was pretty sureShondo is a literal schizophrenic who cannot see reality for what it is and has ruined relationships and was prepared to knife her family at one point as a result. I feel bad for her, I really do, but that's a factor far too many people want to ignore.
>>90630625Usable enough. Not everyone on this board gives a shit about gura/hololive even though they're very aware of either. Catalogfaggots and shitstirrers will do as they do but will mostly leave unrelated threads alone
>>90636334I agree with most of things except>embarrassed girl act she puts onI don't think it's acting Also let's not pretend Fauna is good at ASMR, she was mediocre at best as well
>>90636841Kizuna was only good as she was in character cope & seeth
>>90630625anyone with half a brain can see she is on her way out
>>90631759BAU BAUIDOLCHADS WINNINGINDIEFAGS SEETHING
>>90637211That still leaves most of SEA unaware.
>>90637079Most people that do ASMR are garbage at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNvlyycWzQ
Most vtubers that do ASMR are not good at ASMR.
>>90637154>kizunaYou must be a pretty big fan of Gawr, huh?
UHH BROS?!
>>90635453>Shondo how's that bad? it isn't the fucking orc
>>90630168TotallyNotFauna I'm assuming.
Since we can talk about senzawa, Lemon leaf, Namirin, Dobby, Dottovu, and others, can we have the name of certain demon removed from the list of banned words?
>>90637602no...
>>90637770No because she's not leaving, retard.
>>90637602who?
>>90636987>uploads sus asmr content as an underage>"reeeee why is everyone grooming me"
>2 hours later>doxxthread still upDid mods abandon this board or what?
>>90630096LemonLeaf should update her bio to include #1 fan of Ceresfauna
>>90630625Depends on if she takes an affiliate graduation when she leaves
>>90637861Neither is Namirin, Dottovu and everyone else
>>90637602Who? I never trust anyone named Lily or Emily because those are the top tranny names.
>>90637865>>90638267not who, hoo
>>90630096Honestly, her situation is so funny. Whatever she does, follow this person or that person, change status, anything, will be hyperanalysed by everyone and inevitably cause insane reactions. It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out she's only doing these follows because she enjoys seeing those reactions, I would too.
>>90637913>doxxI don't think you know what that word means
>>90637602A collab between the two (or more specifically Yuni Luna's current incarnation) really well set the catalog on fire, holy shit.
>>90638489Pippa would back out immediately. She's been blowing off Kson forever.
>>90637602ah, yes. now i see.
>>90638384Don't feed the tard.>>90636312Groomed by the most heterosexual member of Hololive. Yep. When did that happen? Between her seeing monster come out of her walls or her 6 hour catatonic episodes?Some chuds really shouldn't be around crazy women, they're ready to believe anything a literal schizo will tell em.
>>90637602>17.6K posts
>>90637602Dis gonna be fun
>>90638689>anon starting to wake up to the fact he's watching mentally ill women act like little girls on youtubeWait till you get close enough to one of them to get accepted into her "inner circle" in her "private" discord
>>90635067No. Sometimes you turn out this way regardless of upbringing
>>90638689That's ~10.5 tweets per day if she has been tweeting constantly every day since she created her account. Is this just a woman yapping thing?
>>90638689>>90638919Looking through her timeline it's pretty much all retweets of art of owl/general bird memes. She probably just scrolls for a few hours retweeting nearly everything she comes across; still far too much time on social media though.
>>90638919The vast majority of her tweets are scheduled animal content. It balloons.
>>90637602Am I supposed to know who this is?
>>90637602Is it actually HOLOver for the OG EN bros?
>>90637602wait...is that Pippa?
>>90639284See >>90638489 and >>90638548
>>90639386People didn't question Cover rapid fire introducing two new gens after they said they'll concentrate on their existing staff instead of pushing out new whores?Intriguing how /vt/ doesn't notice.
>>90637602>Fauna collab when>Probably neverWell to be fair it isn't Fauna anymore.
>>90638686You speak like a true schizo.
>>90639163>It balloons.>balloonsAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE YAMERO
>>90639511Am I supposed to know who that is, either?
>>90639742>holonormies>not knowing one of the biggest EN vtubersChecks out actually.
>>90639799he's baiting
>>90637602it seems like my favorite EN Holos are all graduating.
>>90637602
>>90630096>it's a nothingburger bros she's not leaving!!don't let the door hit you on the way out, saplings :)
>>90634830>somehow???I'm sure there's a Japanese businessman who is very satisfied with her performance.
All you need to know about Fauna in a single image.
>>90640247She also follows Doki, a fairly recent change.
>>90630756The 2nd most popular holoEN just quit and the 1st most popular could very well follow, in fact they're probably paying Gura to stay just to be a mascot at this point. If that's not a wake up call then say hello to nijiEN 2.0.
>>90630096Based. I hope she follows her strongest shrimp out of this hellhole and starts a new golden age of EN indietubing.
>>90630825Yeah that isn't true at all. Nayuta streams a few times a year as a vtuber
>>90630096Gura, when you announce your graduation remember to say that you love being an idol and it's not the reason why you're quitting. Very important to avoid anti-idol sentiment.
>>90637770did you just come from the Gura X trending tab?
>>90640451Gura is absolutely graduating in early 2025.
>>90640451>The 2nd most popular holoEN just quitMori quit? Finally
>>90640247She follows dottovu anon. She hasn't made a purge yet.
>>90630583Because she already didn't stream before Hololive. Why do you people think she's going to magically get motivated after losing the ability to get tons of money for doing literally nothing?
>>90640637Why is kronii the bad guy now.Did I miss some new lore?
>>90640916Not saying she's the bad guy. I'm just saying Fauna and Kronii are not friends anymore.
>>906313772019 was fucking nothing.2021 is where the nijisperg went full meltdown tier over AsaCoco and started spamming the fuck out of the board.I think, or was it 2020.. ? I remember egging him on. Shit was funny. Fucking retard is still seething today about Hololive in the Niji /jp/ thread.
>>90631633You will never be Japanese. Stop trying to be as retarded as they are.
>>90631633what do you mean, that’s not senzawa?
>>90639534Doesn't help that every time someone says something negative or worrying about a corpo here, 5 people will jump in claiming it's a deflection thread
another mental illness thread I see
>>90633886
>>90630351Oh yeah, she's following 2win, she's a big shot rigger who rigs for the biggest indies and vshojos
>>90630625Not as big as you would think. There are a large number of newer HoloEN fans from the Advent debuts that have probably never seen a Gura stream live. That is how shitty Gura's schedule has been.
>>90641149why not
>>90630245They have to plan quitting a long time in advance if they want to still be a vtuber. Even with their deep pockets it can take anything between 3-12 months to get a new model+rig+assets/etc ready.
>>90641729>HoloEN fans from the Advent debuts that have probably never seen a Gura stream live
>>90637602>Nobody knows who this is>Nothing but vague postsThis board fucking sucks
>>90641995>I don't know why yuni and lily are so you have to spoonfeed me>no one will spoonfeed me, so /vt/ sucksgo back to fucking plebbit
>>90641955Its true. Advent brought in a lot of new fans and Gura hasn't been around.
>>90630583Because the model is old. Even if the design won’t change much, it would need an update to make use of new upgrades
>>90641995it’s Pippa dumbfuck
>>90641995Someone literally says who it is in the replies, and you can still find a short 7 minute video which you only need to listen to for a few seconds to realise who it is. You are too retarded to live.
>>90642149on paper it definitely makes sense. but i wandered off after 2022, so to me council is still the "new" gen and most of my mental image of holoEN is from what it was like in 2021. obviously i am now quite out of touch.
>>90641149>>90640637QRD?
>>90630096>had more social engagement than Gura in 2 months
>>90637602That might not be recent, she was one of the earlier EN vtubers(you can see that account is from 2020), and at 500+ followers it's pretty safe to say that lily was just following everyone back in the day.
>>90642575If someone knew, we would all know, you're not gonna find any real answer, only rrats. The only clue that exists is that it seems to be something on Kronii's part, Fauna still seems to have some appreciation for her
>>90642575Just schizo rrats about Kronii and Fauna hating each other (or more specifically Fauna disliking Kronii). Never seen any real evidence other than very circumstantial shit.
>>90642575They stopped talking and ignored each other as much as they could after their 1 on 1 off collab.
New follows!
>>90642942It's Holover.
>>90631640Doesn't count, she didn't do it as a vtuber. For that matter, Kiara and Noel don't count either.Azki has done non-Holo vtuber streams, see >>90630971I'm pretty sure Kson did some vtuber streams while Coco was active, using the model she made in V-Katsu, a now-defunct free version of Koikatsu which only had the character maker maker and didn't have any lewd outfits available (e.g. no crotchless panties). She can't use that particular model any more, because Illusion revoked perms globally when they closed V-Katsu; she can make a new 2D or 3D outfit based on the IP she created in V-Katsu if she wants to, but the actual model itself is forever lost due to licensing issues.I have no idea whether or not Mikeneko did any vtuber streams while Rushia was active, and I can't even hazard a guess as to whether any Holomems' roommates have done any vtuber streams while those Holomems were active. If any of them have, I'm confident someone smarter than me will mention it in this thread
>>90642942This reminds me - The fact she had to graduate because of her back injury and holoshit not giving her a lighter workload due to her main job taking up a lot of time was already a GIGANTIC RED FLAG 2 years ago.It's a problem that has been building up. It's not a new one. All the members with careers (most of them at this point) will quit inevitably. Only completely useless weeabs like Kiara will be left.
>>90643557Her back was already right and she didn't have to work in any thing that required her to move, she was the one that after quitting inmediately said that she was healthy and that everyone should fuck off. She was just not made for this and only joined because Ina told her to, but she's not a monster like Ina
>>90630096Who is she gonna vent to first?
>>90643848Speaking of Ina>nominated for best art vtuber>has a grand total of 5 drawing streams the last 2 years
>>90630906For the hundredth time I am reminded why women bad.The solution isn't to get emotional, it's to be apathetic.My stream slave is there to make content for me, it it's slop then i stop watching, if it's good i keep watching.Simple as.
>>90630168newfagew f a g
Maybe we will finally get ASMR
>>90630096looooooooooool
>>90643848She graduated because she was losing opportunities from her gacha projects, and that's what she wanted to focus on
>>90632516So how's that global initiative going for Hololive? At the rate this is going they will be a Japan only thing in a matter of years outside the most cringe weeaboos
>>90644125I mean isnt she the only one who can start with a blank page and have a finished drawing in like 3-4 hours?
>>90644608and then got replaced by AI almost instantly
>>90644753Only watching holodiarhea must be quite the mindfuck, huh?
>>90630336NIJI WON! (just kidding they're in the shit with us)
>>90644162That has always been how you should interact with e-celebs bro
>>90630746Multiple talents graduated in a short period and Cover's integrity is threatened. We are already at the 7th trumpet. We are gonna need an 8th trumpet if the shark goes.
>>90645223a foghorn
>>90630625Like the last day or two except multiply it by 1 million
>>90632987>Holo marika is deadLast Mario Kart tourney Towa was saying how fucking annoying is to organize the whole thing and how she didn't want to do it next year so if nobody jumped to replace her that could've been what happened
>>90633560she only got away with it because the guy who actually made her model wasn't as hardcore petty as she is
>>90644233who?
>>90635350Towa already said they aren't millionaires, she can't just up and buy a gucci bag without thinking.
>>90644544she already made 2 in the last 12 days keep up sapling
>>90631759poor biboo she just moved to japan to be closer to cover and now this shit goes down :(
>>90630906She’s gonna pretend that never happened. Once you are inside a corpo you realize how stupid it is to die on that hill. Why leave money on the table? For what?
>>90630096both victims of Mori.
>>90645499are you telling me towa still earns less than kson nowadays? bitch is lying. Kson flew to texas just to eat a whataburger and shop at buckees and im pretty sure towa has better numbers than her right now
By the way, did they ever release their one emo song with Mumei?
>>90631759Gura IS vtubing, if she goes down the entire industry crumbles, without even streaming she pulls in more revenue within a month than the entirety of advent makes in a year. That cover would ever let her leave is the very pinnacle of delusion.
>>90635192>CookieswirlHaHAHAHAHA. We don't count Mattel/Roblox/Lego/Barbie shrill channel growth. Ask her to make a separate account and her followers to sub and switch over and see what happens. Nice try Pippa.
The truth:>2023 Apr 14, Gura messages in pre-chat "I'll do what I can when I can": https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/supana/FA8FJcgCWdM.html>2023 Aug 1, Mori commented on some whiskey next to merch of Gura, saying to keep it away from Gura implying that Gura is abstaining from alcohol:https://youtube.com/watch?v=AJ_1b4yxfQo&t=47m53sNumber of streams Gura did in December of 2022 to November of 2023:>Dec: 3>Jan: 0>Feb: 2>Mar: 4 + 1 member>Apr: 5 + 1 member>May: 2 + 1 member>Jun: 1>Jul: 7>Aug: 9>Sep: 3>Oct: 0>Nov: 1The baby was born sometime in October of 2023. This means she conceived in January. In both those months she streamed 0 times. Pregnant women experience mood swings each trimester. You can see by the rate of streams that her stream output rises and falls every 3 months. There are 3 periods of low stream output with 2 periods of high stream output between each.In her later stream, she talks about owning a "baby" book of The Hobbit, emphasizing "baby", and talks about "passing it down to ...(she hesitates to say 'my child' for a second because she doesn't want to admit to being a mother)... down the lineage":https://youtube.com/watch?v=Eg1I7rOfU2A&t=1h10m15s
>>90645609>they think any of the chubas they watch are actually singleI'm more surprised acting like a virgin for the chuds actually works.Madonna was right all along.
>>90631633It’s based-on not stolen. Stop covering for Filian’s grifting zoomer ass. She’s the only person so far who has straight ripped a model and made bank on it. She was lucky that cuck artist didn’t want to cause any trouble cause he was well within his right to take her ass to the cleaners.
>>90645787Are we back looping Gura's baby now Holokeks?
>>90645393Who organized the OG Mario Kart tourney in 2019? They should step up
>>90646007Two babies, actually
>>90630336holotrannies... we're losing too aren't we
Why would she lie? It's japan, she's not gonna get mugged, she also blows a lot on MVs since she's musically inclined while Kson isn't.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNbPJAs0zaQ
>>90645938I don’t think anyone but a small percentage of morons think any vtuber is a virgin or single. It’s like keyfabe. Her acting like she is pure is good enough for most.Even Nyanners and Vei had their fanbases get culled. It just didn’t matter because they got more satisfaction out of their boyfriends than they got out of keeping the charade up.
>>90646514>>90645706
>>90645787Yeah we know she had a baby so what?
>>90631579Go watch one lemonleaf video.I don't think you know what's going on here.
>>90646178...Wasn't it Aqua?Anonbros I ain't feeling too good...
>>90630096She may just genuinely like fauna and wants to do what she can to help her.
just take her with you this company doesn't deserve her
>>90641553deflection post
>>90630583Senzawa is clearly angry with management for not settling the disputes with Lemonleaf and Dooby but that doesn't mean she is quitting. She might be angry because of what is going on but she also made sure to tell fans that she was looking forward to Hololive projects in 2025. That doesn't make sense if she had already made the decision to leave.
>>90630625I don't even think liveposting on cooldown will keep my small thread alive. God I hate how many autistic men are on this board, I wish they'd stay contained.
>>90633616This is a good thing
>>90635475Fauna will likely stick to Twitch where all her friends are.
