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==REMINDER TO ALL MENHERA==
>M: Please don't get merch because you feel pressured or anything like that. DON'T do anything that you don't want to. We really mean it, okay?
>F: So you know, maybe you're like, "Oh, well, you know, maybe if I make a clip maybe more people will discover FUWAMOCO from there!" - it's true, but maybe you REALLY don't like video editing... Maybe don't that.
>M: However you want to, okay?
>F: You know, oshikatsu's supposed to be fun! You know, just tweeting, being loud -
>M: Being HERE with us!
>F: Yeah!
>M: That's all - that's MORE that we can ask for!
>F: Yeah, being like, "Ah! My best friend, you know, I REALLY like these vtubers called FUWAMOCO!". You know, those kinds of things, you know...
>M: So, please, don't feel like, "Oh, THIS Ruffian is doing all this and I'M not doing ANYTHING"...
>F: No. You know, oshikatsu is fun for everybody and ANYBODY!
>M: You should never feel like that, okay? So PLEASE don't compare yourselves to somebody else, okay?
>F: We just want you to have fun. You shouldn't feel pressure.
>M: We don't want you to disappear because of something, you know...
>F: Yeah, so, you know... if your smile's in trouble...
>*Both shake their heads*
>M: Just don't worry, we just want you to be here with us.
>F: Yeah, we wanna protect your smile and have fun together, Ruffians!
>M: You got it? It's not work! It should be FUN! We understand that you compare yourselves to others and stuff like that... SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY "DON'T"! We get it, you know? Because we felt it too before, okay? *reads chat message* You wish you could superchat more? IT'S OKAY! DON'T WORRY! We want you to have fun.
>F: And you know, it's the little things that count, too, you know. So, just sending a tweet like, "BAU BAU!" - that helps, you know?
>M: Yeah! Do what you can!
>F: "I'm on break right now, you know! I had a real delicious sandwich! FUWAMOCO, I had a delicious sandwich!" ... You know, it makes us happy to know that you're thinking about us cause sometimes, you know, we get a little bit lonely. Like, "are the Ruffians thinking about us...?"
>M: Please don't worry, okay? *reads chat message* You can't write well? It's OKAY! Don't worry about it!
>F: But it makes us really happy to know you're thinking about ways you can help us, Ruffians...
>M: We don't want you to get sad and be like, "I can't enjoy FUWAMOCO anymore because I compare myself to other Ruffians", okay?

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1 hour of chatty and 2 hours of reading the same repetitious "we'll always be with you too!" superchats, oh boy

>>90630898
BAU BAU

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Fuwawa is for kissless virgins ONLY

Do you think the short of Fuwawa's floofies bouncing was too soon?

>>90631406
I just self-insert as the Ruffian being thanked by FWMC for "always being by our side", since I'll never be thanked for being by their sides myself.

>>90631847
Gotta pay up to get that direct distinction.

megaanon
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>>90630898
BAU BAU

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>>90631922

>Burgers and leafs love Fuwawa
>Europoors and SEA loves Mococo
What does it mean?

Is twitter fucking up for anyone else? Several tweets missing from their actual page, but I can see them in the home feed. Small indie 40 billion USD company btw so christ forbid their website goes 24 hours without being a piece of shit

>>90631922
I find the fact that she's wearing Mococo's clothes the hottest part about this entire set

>>90632020
Yeah, it's the focus of the dialogue too.
>uu, using Moco-chan's clothes as you please for this kind of thing...
>if she finds out, she'll be angry!
and so on

>>90631997
Their latest tweet isn't showing for me.

They rt the kindness tweet and no surprise phoenix jumps on that with his own kindness clip tweet right after.

>>90631997
>Is twitter fucking up for anyone else?
Nope

>>90631985
A*ssies love the great Pero as all true shitposters should

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Cute.

>>90632864

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>cover opens an office in commiefornia
>change in direction

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2nd EN with the most streaming hours

>>90632928
bless her for trying but people are out for blood and nothing will stop them

I love FWMC, but I can't really trust what they'll say about all of the shit going on in Cover. They are too blindsided by their gratitude for getting accepted into Hololive to be critical in any way, they have a lot of things they want to do there, so they won't say anything bad about management, obviously. They are "strong demon dogs", they always hide their insecurities and frustrations from us, so I don't expect them to say anything negative, I only hope things don't get any worse for them...

>>90633035
Streaming hours watched not actual hours streamed.

>>90633035
shiori wtf

>>90632792
They can, but probably only during lives and after giving Key loads of money
https://www.youtube.com/live/tJqCyCoZ4wA?t=6m26s

>>90633233
Mori also said in mengen she is happy. It really is down to the individual on how they take this new direction. I do expect one or two more graduations on the EN side.

>>90633277
Ruffians are retarded and only care about things that fit their delusions, surprising.

>>90633035
Koyori is a monster. 2063 hours. wtf.

>>90633233
>they always hide their insecurities and frustrations from us
No they don't lol

>>90633233
Listening to Kiara right now, I'm expecting much of the same.
>There are many reasons for people to leave
>We understand where you might be a little shaken up by this and are fearful for EN
>But we're gonna keep moving on
>It sucks for her fans and we feel bad if you liked watching her too
>But you can't see everything happening
>Things change over time.
>We're feeling the same with talents we like leaving like (Kiara=Morning Musume, FWMC = dempagumi
About the only difference is that Kiara usually is willing to shit on management when she doesn't like something they're doing.

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>>90633233
You would say this about anyone. Miko said something similar, Mori said something similar, Kiara said something similar. You have your opinion and you're only looking for validation. When people say "I trust the talents" there's always a "who agree with me" implicit in there.
You should trust your oshi and no one else, basically, because it's a multifaceted issue with a plurality of opinions even among talents. You can find people who will give you whatever answer you're looking for.

Please stop making me horny, FWMC, this is a solemn occasion.

>>90633732
It's funny listening to Kiara talking about how even if there's shit that she doesn't like about management, there's no shot they'll change even if other people leave for similar reasons. I will maintain my anti-management mentality forever.

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>>90633413
I'm honestly really worried about their health. They can be as "happy" as they want, but their bodies are not going to last if they keep sleeping and eating like shit. I just want them to pace themselves a bit better... Also, I get the feeling that FWMC morning is gone and done. They replaced it with even more homework and I can't see them cutting back on that homework to do FWMC morning again.

>>90633035
Air time top 20 ranking(hrs)
1. Koyori 2063
2. Kaela 1475
3. Aki 1271
4. Pekora 1162
5. Biboo 1133
6. Lui 1063
7. Subaru 1052
8. Okayu 1045
9. Luna 1024
10. Mori 991
11. Ririka 946
12. Watame 944
13. Miko 881
14. Noel 800
15. Reine 798
16. Flare 788
17. Fubuki 772
18. Kiara 743
19. FWMC 730
20. Polka 724

>>90633867
>spoiler
They've assured us over and over that FWMC Morning would be back in March. If they were to ever go back on that, especially for homework related reasons, then I'd hold it against them forever. Even more so considering the main reason they gave for even putting it in hiatus in the first place was so they could get some more rest

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I love Fuwawa
Today I'll let a very cringe comment on their members stream VOD

>>90633958
I look like this

>>90633504
Yes they do. There's been multiple times when they admitted to us that they've had REALLY "ruff" times recently. They almost never tell us while they are going through it, they tell us after the fact. We get a needy tweet, just to discover a few weeks later that they were*severely* stressed and feeling "off" when they did that.

I love FUWAMOCO, simple as that.

>>90633685
That ERB stream hours is so misleading. I am pretty sure 1/3 of it are rebroadcasts.

>>90634101
They've never told us EVERYTHING that's been going on with them, but to say they've never been open to us about any insecurities they have is just outing yourself as someone who doesn't watch streams

>>90633867
Aren't we seeing improvement already? Back in summer, Mogogo will be stubborn and try to power through and end up falling sick and getting suspended. They are now pacing it better.

>>90634249
They are, also sleeping 5 hours instead of 3. People just don't like that it cost streams instead of homework.

>>90634101
They are not direct with their words but you can catch it here and there. For example, Mococo was saying she can't sleep because she feels she is not good enough compared to their senpais(in terms of their singing and dancing), them feeling they are getting worse at singing, them wanting to sign up for more singing and dancing lessons because they don't want to get left behind etc.

>>90634330
You're right, because when I hear 'balance', I assume it's at the cost of something that doesn't affect me directly and when it is, I won't like it. I am self-centered and this is my entertainment.

>>90634067
But they are not really getting any more rest, they admitted to us that their balance is still shit and that they still don't get enough sleep, they basically replaced FWMC morning with even more homework.
They want to do FWMC morning, but they'll also want to keep doing the extra homework. They can't have their cake and eat it too, eventually something has to give, and we already know what they prioritize between homework and streams.

>>90634522
>But they are not really getting any more rest
They said they are sleeping more now.

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Even kawaii positive genius has cut her streams.

>>90634616
So they've gotten a little more sleep, but still sound like ass every other stream because they're being put through the ringer on the back end constantly which leads to "Sorry, we can't do the stream we have time for because our throats are too messed up from all the bullshit we've been doing on the back end".

>>90634616
Nta but Mococo quite literally said that anyone who thought they were resting more last week and this week "were dead wrong"

>>90634616
They said that they still don't get enough sleep, and rest doesn't even necessarily mean sleep. Yes, maybe they are sleeping 1 extra hour per day, but is that really an improvement if they also do 3 extra hours of homework were they strain their voices even more?

>>90634707
Because casuals still think days of no stream are rest days. They always get a few "enjoy your rest" messages every time they have off days. They're the kind of people to bring up clip comments on stream, they're unfortunately not very good at separating extreme casual opinions from regular viewer opinions and will spend time talking to their regulars about things not a single person still watching deep into the post-game part of a stream thinks. Nobody who was still there at that point thought that.

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>>90635109
BOY HOWDY I SURE DO LOVE ALL THIS HOMEWORK

>ehehe nigger bau bau

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>>90635551

>>90635551
why is she like this?

>>90635551
Stop. Fuwawa loves and respects black men, she would never say that.

>>90635796
no thats mococo
furara is the most right wing french canadian hololive member you ever seen

>>90635796
no one respects blacks

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>>90635796

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>>90636145
Mococo loves them though

>>90636420
no, not true

Don't make me post it

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>>90636015
She's just fluffy...

>>90636462
Mococo has a strong preference to brown men, and Fuwawa only likes white men.

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>>90636890
only in your chink cuck fantasies

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>>90636462

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https://x.com/Farethiak/status/1863256580776485300

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They did their best

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>>90636948
>>90637012
I see a pattern here...

>>90633413
>Mori also said in mengen she is happy
if mori is happy about how things are going that can only mean things will get much worse

It's genuinely baffling there's such a ruckus over that tree bitch. Now people suddenly think they care when all her career she was seen as the runt of her gen, the one with the weirdo fans, the one who can't sing or dance, a lazy two-faced whore. People never let her go on the "I'm not your friend" yab because there simply wasn't anything else to talk about. Meanwhile even when she did stuff you was being laughed at, her porformance at Breaking Dimension was publicly discussed as the weakest of them all. Her numbers hardly reflected much success yet retards and normalfags are pretending her leaving is a big deal.
She probably just wanted to appear in live concerts without having to take dance lessons nor having to go out of her way for work events.
Believing the words of a fake woman like her to heart is naive at best.

>Esl
Not reading allat

It's because it contributes to the trend you moron ESL.

>>90637379
Twitter is broken for me.

>>90637993
>the runt of her gen
In terms of numbers that was always Bae

>>90638206
But now he'll post her subcount and say that CCV doesn't matter.

>>90638206
At least Bae did projects and people talked about her.

It's obvious, ESL moron. 1 is bad luck, 2 is a pattern. And that's only HoloEN in the last 3 months, if we add HoloJP then there's been 4 graduations in the last 6 months, from high profile members too.

>>90638206
>Bae
I hope she's next.

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they do not look like dogs at all, more like a cat and fox mix

>>90638461
Fubukers....

>>90638461
They look like my wives

>>90638461
Fuwawa doesn't look like a dog, she looks like a hungry succubus.

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>>90638522

>>90638326
theres only one cuck that talks about her

Why is Fuwawa so obsessed with raping the Ruffians? Does the word "consent" not mean anything to her?

>>90638326
Not even brats talk about Bae lol

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>>90638675
Did you forget about her favorite word, Wuffian?

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>>90638675
>Does the word "consent" not mean anything to her?

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>>90638675
>>90638745
>Eheheheh~

>>90638461
They're vixens aka megitsune.

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>>90636200
Fauna just graduated? Wow... I didn't know that, you're telling me now for the first time.
She had an amazing career, what else can you say?
She was an amazing vtuber, whether you agreed or not... she was an amazing vtuber who led an amazing career.
I am actually sad to hear that

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>>90638675
>Does the word "consent" not mean anything to her?

>>90639171
Got me to laugh. Thanks Anon

>>90639171
fluffy for prez

>>90639171
Kek

>>90639271
I love her...

>>90639171
I voted

>>90638745
>>90638934
>>90639050
>>90639263
She can't keep getting away with it...

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>>90631997

>>90639793
employees arent web servers

>>90639793
Jokes aside, it’s insane how over staffed they were

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i wish theyd stop putting the hololive logo on paid vp wallpapers

>>90640071
I wish they'd release official naked FWMC wallpapers.

Hey can one of you post a link to their most recent tweet for me. Twitter is broken for some reason

>>90640071
Post the wallpaper

>>90640222
The retweeted their next stream, but this is the latest original tweet https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1863262517935673669

>>90640222
https://twitter.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1863262517935673669

>>90640222
https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1863262517935673669

>>90639891
Yeah there really is no reason to have that many people. Plus outside of bots twitter is pretty much the same with the same occasional issues, bots are only as bad as they are because AI has gotten better and the overall quality of the internet has become worse.

>>90640365
Why is she like this...?

>>90640477
Don't worry, Cover definitely needs the 500+ employees they have right now to manage their talents and 'work on getting perms'.

>>90640705
when will the jews pay for leeching the goyim to death?

>>90638110
https://x.com/search?q=from%3Afuwamoco_en&src=typed_query&f=live

>>90640837
This is useful, thanks. Who knows when twitter will fix itself

Cover is dead
Hololive is dead
FWMC's dream is dead
And it's all the fault of some green hoe

>>90641088
THE QUEEN IS DEAD BOYS

>>90641088
Hololive was a startup that was funded by venture capital. They were always going to go public and lose their soul, it's what venture capital does. But hey, they'll make a lot of money before they burn out.

this faggot pissnix taking advantage of the situation to fish for a retweet from them

https://x.com/phoenixdawwn/status/1863239975619195208

i really hope they move on from him forever, stupid attentionwhore get the rope

I don’t care about Fauna’s graduation. I’m not sad in the slightest.

>>90634089
How did I miss this
god I've been out of it the past few days

>>90641292
He's one of the biggest fags I've ever seen. In my top 3 ruffians that can't graduate and disappear forever fast enough. I don't know why they interact with him at all he's an ass

>>90641277
What do you mean "But hey"? Hololive wouldn't have existed otherwise.

>>90638329
Who are low profile members?

>>90641617
It's edited, it says natto originally. Fuwawa would never offer herself up to the Ruffians. Fuwawa exists to be taken hard by force.

>>90641631
>In my top 3 ruffians that can't graduate and disappear forever fast enough.
I feel like if you start paying that much attention to other fans of your oshi you are getting in too deep and should probably take a step back

>>90640071
>>90640253
what voice pack
was there a new one?

>>90641811
Yeah, but I missed the quote tweet at all https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1862508079100960955

>>90641808
Mel, Aki, all of ID, Flare, La+, Lui, Iroha, All of DEV_IS, Bae, Mumei, Kronii, GG, Raora, ERB, Shiori.

>>90641846
Sex with wuffians situation voice

>>90641825
it's not hard to when that faggot takes all the air in the room and they shove his shit down our throats. it's infuriating

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>>90641811
>It's edited
Meds.

>>90642065
Just don't look at the usernames of who they retweet

>>90642189
That's basically impossible unless I stop using Twitter. And even on streams him and the attention fag squad are constantly interjecting and being brought up. thanks for always being by my side superchat spam absolute insanity shit I want to smash my keyboard and monitor sometimes that they enable this and ruin the stream experience and their career. they have over a million fans not 10

melty

>>90642426
Well lucky for you Hololive seems hellbent on appealing to the masses instead of a few fans so eventually streams will stop all together. The average person doesn't have time to watch hours of streams. Soon everything will just be clips and concerts.

>>90642553
the masses don't like seeing three people get public blowjobs on their Twitter every day. no one does. Even more so that they pathetically beg and feel entitled to it

>>90642682
The masses don't follow on Twitter that much or they don't care. In fact they want them to collab with Koeffiicent or retweet Banned /vt/ memes. The majority of "fans' are very different from this board. It's sad but true.

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if they don't go beyond saying they're doing their best and trust them today and there are no meaningful changes improvements or reassurances tonight I think I'm out not only watching them but hololive and vtubers in general. it was a short but fun run. I feel like I joined at the worst and best time simultaneously

>>90642777
Are we supposed to cry and give up? Or keep fighting against this faggotry until it's truly over? I am getting tired

>>90641292
This is so shameless that I will lose a lot of respect for them if they are so easily manipulated.

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Hello ruffians!
Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!
Day 481: Today I've done my anki and immersion reps. No new cards for Anki, I'm just maintaining core 2.3k deck. For immersion I've watched two episodes of an anime.
FUWAMOCO love!
BAU BAU!

It would be better if it wasn't members only, they should address their entire audience publicly after something like this (like Bae is)

>>90643875
Wrong.

>>90643875
Retard.

>>90643875
vW ua agur
You should know what I said based on your previous experiences

>>90643875
they don't view people that aren't giving them something as worth caring about. They're planning to farm a lot of superchats again today and all of those people are members. might break their top 10 most sc stream. They are damn good at taking advantage of people when they're vulnerable

>>90643875
No it wouldn't
They wouldn't give their honest thoughts and feelings outside of members. It's better for them to do it this way

They're going to cry 100%. It's best the things they say tonight won't get clipped

They should play the ramen stall game that Watame is playing. They can roleplay cooking and serving ramen to customers at night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0h3usbNd3I

>>90644126
>They wouldn't give their honest thoughts and feelings outside of members
They also won't do that in members either

I'll be blunt. they better not try lying to us again tonight.

>>90644943
I’ll be blunt, you will never be a woman.

Or else what? You'll make more annoying posts in this thread?

Where will they go when hololive inevitably falls under?

What's our battle plan for the members stream? What goals do you have or things you want to hear from them?
>>90644943
They haven't lied so far. Lying requires intent. Situations changing or promises broken down the line don't mean that they didn't mean what they said at the time.

>>90645144
Hopefully somewhere they aren't in a position to exploit mentally ill men and their kindness. It's disgusting how comfortable they have gotten with taking it all for granted while always wanting more more more for doing less

>>90645266
>Hopefully somewhere they aren't in a position to exploit mentally ill men and their kindness
That's literally all idols and vtubing though.

>>90645252
If I keep saying I'll have a million dollars yet continually do nothing to make that happen it is just as bad as lying not only to yourself but others. It's worse coming from them when they have a supportive fanbase that worships them as gods. They've been saying they would improve this for nearly a year yet not only have they not it's gotten worse and worse. They don't get to lie and say they're doing their best but they're tired when the overwork is almost entirely their own fault

>>90645252
They shouldn't make a promise that they can't keep, and if things change they should be open and honest about it.

we're doing our best ruffians!
it's tough but we are doing our best
we're always here for you!
>4 break days a week, minimal communicating

>>90645252
>Lying requires intent
Which they have. They're choosing to be blindly optimistic and ignore reality completely for reasons I don't understand. maybe they think people will leave if they stop pretending everything is always perfect? which is retarded and untrue but they are retards so who knows

>>90643875
That will be retarded. Not their genmate, not their problem.

I think they will try to lift our spirits and I'm grateful for that but they also have a huge blind spot when it comes to themselves. Even the most autistic Ruffian can tell when they are tired or overworked, they don't have to tell us, we can hear it in their voices and see it in their mannerisms. They need to understand that Ruffians will not be happy if their oshis are not in good shape.

They don't care about their health so neither will I. I'm going to continue to praise them for overworking and beg them to join every collab and event. I'd they ever miss a voice pack or stream I will make sure they know how disappointed it makes me.

>>90645477
>They don't get to lie and say they're doing their best but they're tired when the overwork is almost entirely their own fault
I do agree with this, DESU. They keep complaining that the are tired, they don't get enough sleep, they want to spend time with us... But they are the ones that put themselves in that situation.
What should I take away from the next time they say that they miss us or want to spend more time with us? "Oh, FWMC really want to spend time with us, but they are voluntarily chosing NOT to do it when they could very easily do it." There's a point when actions speak louder than words, and if they don't actually feel like that, then I'd rather they stopped saying those things.

I wonder how many of the people constantly giving them advice on their health are fat fucks. I'm guessing near 100%

>>90646456
I'm a fat fuck but I also get plenty of sleep and plenty to eat. That's how I'm fat. I'm also not doing physically demanding stuff like dance practice and I don't have thousands of fans who want to see me and I should stay healthy for.

>>90646456
There were maybe 2 or 3 fat fucks out of 50+ ruffians at BD and nearly everyone agreed they wished fwmc took better care of their health. Amd that's coming from some of their most diehard fans. I'm frankly so disappointed fwmc don't seem to care at all and immediately dismissed all feedback or criticism with a bau bau and we're doing our best

>>90646185
I'll get REALLY irritated if they talk down on us again.
Yes, we KNOW that there are a lot of people depending on you to do that homework, FWMC, but that does NOT mean that you have to accept literally EVERYTHING. Just fucking pick the most exciting projects, stop doing every single voice pack and being part of every single overpriced merch.

Things are rough right now but I have faith in FWMC. The last time they were super busy with something, we got the darndest thing I've ever seen come out of Vtubing, and it really meant a lot to me.

I fucking love timeloops

They say they will be here forever but proceed to do everything they can to make sure their health won't let them last 5 years. I just don't get how they can be so short sighted. I would have thought after 1M they maybe would focus on you k own trying to survive until the VN and sololive happen instead of going even faster. they're speedrunning burning out before any of those heavily time gated goals can happen, it's asinine

>>90646688
My guess is a song cover, christmas concert, and a year end concert. Then they still need to think what to do/practice for their bday.

>>90646667
What I don't understand is how they don't see their own actions are in conflict with their words. I actually agree with them. You are part of projects that have a lot of people involved. People are relying on you to deliver. So isn't it also disrespectful to not give your best shot at it? If you're constantly showing up underfed with little sleep and thinking about the other hundred things you have to do, you are not going to be able to give your best effort. Spreading yourself too thin just means everything you do will be sub par.

If I hear
>You know, we’re FUWAMOCO, we’re fluffy and fuzzy
>We’re still newbies
>We have so many ideas but we’ve just been SO busy!!
>We’ll keep doing our best!
>We want you to be excited ruffians!!
I’m closing the tab

Feelings are cloudy...

>>90646765
just wait until the stream where Mococo repeats the same 3 sentences over and over to every single superchat between tears. She's worse than anyone here at it. None of this would be an issue if they just were even 10% honest with themselves and ruffians. Stop fucking lying and pretending it will magically get better

>>90646456
Not me.
>183cm
>90kg
>SQ: 210, BP: 175, DL: 240, OHP: 100
That said, even if a fat fuck says "be healthier" they aren't wrong.

>>90646782
So true. 2 more weeks

I was sad yesterday but I'm over it now
I wish we were getting a chill gaming stream instead

>>90646823
So isn't it also disrespectful to not give your best shot at it?
I've said that and got ignored by them and attacked by the clique so I just gave up trying to say it. I am in full agreement with you though. It's almost worse to agree to something and half ass it like they have been than to turn it down at the start. No one us going to be upset if they have to skip a few projects because they're overloaded but people will get genuinely annoyed or worse when they say they can do it but then barely make it by the deadline. not even mentioning the worst quality because it's rushed and they are not at their best focus

>>90646893
So true

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Twins should kiss!

>>90646839
>"We want to spend more time with you Ruffians!'

>>90646981
Careful. Saplings said this very thing to Faunaschizo until those 2 more weeks abruptly came.

>>90646688
Look, I really liked their 3D debut and BD, but all those highs don't mean anything if we don't get any downtime, and Christmas REALLY needed to be that for some of us. I thought FWMC understood that, wanting to spend Christmas with us because not everyone has family or friends to spend it with.
If we don't get a special Christmas stream with FWMC this year I'll lose all hope of things ever getting better in the future.

>>90646839
kek, you won't last a second then...

>>90647036
They don't care what you want. Members streams are basically venting streams for them to cry for support that they then twist into justifying the byllshit they are doing to themselves. People need to stand firmer and let them know we are not okay seeing them hurt themselves like this. It's worse for everyone when they agree to something and fuck it up because they have 50 balls to juggle. Prioritize and give yourself time to do each thing justice. It doesn't have to be 100% but you also shouldn't be ok with disrespecting all of the other people on the project by making them wait for you to get something right or making rhen settle for less than your best

Isn't it rough here?

>>90647074
That metaphor about the million monkeys on typewriters is even more apt than usual, then.

>>90646839
>>90647064
>There are so many games we wanna stream!!
>No no, homework is GOOD! We WANT the homework!
>Mane-chan does her best ruffians!!
>We’ve been trying to find a balance…!!
>Slow and steady progress!!
>Y’know…it’s like, y’know? Yeah… so… ehehehe, y’know?

>>90647211
mucho texto

>>90647243
Don't leak the script, Pero.

>>90645715
It's impossible to know what promises can and can't be kept

Why is it always phonefags?

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>>90647353

>>90647353
NTA but definitely some promises they shouldn't make. "Nothing will change after we move to Japan" was a dumb promise even at the time and I even said that, only to get shouted down by delusional Ruffians who called me an Anti. They need to be realistic about their goals and everyone will be happier.

>>90647386
It will be wild if mumei graduates too.

>>90647427
Will it? She's basically been gone for years now.

>>90647353
You'll always have a decent idea before making the promise, and if you are determined enough you can keep the promise most of the times, but as I said, if you CAN'T keep that promise then you should be open and honest about it.

>>90647409
How are they not being realistic about their goals?

>>90647409
They never said this. They moved BECAUSE they wanted it to change. Same as Biboo. They didn't want to be your babysitters for the rest of their lives, they have ambition. What they promised is the regular stream time, and sure enough they're even pretending they still have DST for that reason, and moving stream times in their own timezone for the sake of the illusion of the stream times not moving.

>>90647427
A lot of people wouldn’t be surprised.

When you think about it, the taipei karaoke perfectly illustrates what their biggest flaw is.
>An event reaches out to FWMC with an opportunity because fans and staff are excited to hear them perform.
>FWMC accept without thinking because they say yes to everything
>the con is happy and it goes without saying they expect fuwamoco to deliver because they seem to always do it
>a week ahead of it, mococo's voice starts hurting.
A normal person would see they had a big commitment to an event ahead and rest. But Mococo is autistic and stubborn and views streams and everything else as a commitment she also has to uphold. She's now choosing her own stubborn ideas over a promise she made to the con to perform in good health.
>con comes, she shredded her voice before it completely and barely makes it through
>many streams after canceled, suspended a week
All because they couldn't be honest and make any prioritization or decisions. I'd they want to do a karaoke at a con then ease up on other work especially screaming on streams. I doubt that event ever asks them back because they saw their commitment meant nothing to fwmc.
It's the same for all the othe projects they agree to. People expect them to give it a reasonable effort and have standards but fuwamoco are compromising on those left and right and killing themselves to barely get by the finish line on everything instead

>>90647427
Not really. The entire gen was a mistake. We should all just pretend it never happened.

I still don't get the issue. They like homework, they are doing homework. They are still streaming, more than most EN. And we even get repeat games on schedule now.

>>90647409
>They need to be realistic about their goals and everyone will be happier.
I’m sure Papa Puppy said the same thing to them before he got BTFO.

So it's all over huh. We all lost faith in FWMC. We don't even want to watch their mengen.
The general public lost faith in hololive as a whole too.
Maybe they didn't go down with much drama, but it's like we're a radiation expose moving corpse...

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>>90647517
They think they can do everything at once with no loss of quality and no damage to their bodies.

>>90647619
Because their reputation goes down the shitter the more they make commitments then fail to deliver at an acceptable level.
They promise streams with a schedule but end up canceling them constantly. They tell events they'll put on a show them blow out their voices before hand. They cry about wanting to spend time with ruffians then sign up for every random fucking thing under the sun.
Sooner or later people will just get sick of being gaslighted and move on if they haven't already

>>90647632
I’m just tired of the bullshit. I’m tired of them spouting the same repetitious bullshit ad nauseam. I’m tired of them taking a fuck load of homework and then complaining about a lack of sleep over something that’s self inflicted. Tired of the forced giggles and Mococo telling us to be excited. Tired of the voice packs I only listen to once out of curiosity and then never again. Tired of it all.

>>90647776
Then move on. Instead of whining like a bitch here.

>>90647792
Why would you respond to an obvious ESL shitpost?

>>90647718
That guy is baused.

>>90647517
They want to find "balance", but are not willing to slow down on homework to find that balance.
They want to spend more time with us and play lots of games, but take all the homework they can, keeping them too busy to stream.
They want to stream more RnR, but constantly strain their voices with homework making those RnR's impossible.
They want to be better at singing and dancing, but they are always tired because of the homework and can't give their 100%.

>>90647619
This. People point to them saying they miss us as if them not having as much time was a contradiction, but it just means they have more important shit in their lives, and this is a good thing. Their dreams come first, always have, always will. You will not change them.

>>90647776
>then fail to deliver at an acceptable level
Was that revealed to you in a dream?

>>90647078
It's not Christmas yet

>>90647887
For an idol, her fans ARE the most important thing in her life, or they're supposed to be.

>>90647619
Honestly, I will be MORE worried if they tell me they hate homework but are forced to do it.

>>90647815
The fact I whine this much has to show how much I care(d) bout them. I don't want them to fuck it all up like this. I want them to have a healthy life where they can actually remember what happens each day instead of sleeping in taxis and missing entire months of their memory. I think I care to a fault and should have cut my losses for lack of a better term mo than ago when it became clear they aren't going to change. But I'm stupid and still hope for it. I should just give up though because I'll feel worse if I'm around when they have another inevitable health crisis

>>90647619
>I still don't get the issue.
Homework bad, but also streams bad (not that I watch them anyway). They should only be streaming the games I want to see, not the ones they play or preparing for events I'm never going to watch.

This is just all the sisters are left with after so many other schizos and rrats have been slain.

>>90647877
>They want to be better at singing and dancing, but they are always tired because of the homework and can't give their 100%.
You say that as if those two weren't related. Mococo was explicit in saying that even wrestling practice fell under the "homework" umbrella.
If they're working on an original song? That's homework too. The cover they're shopping for MV creators now? Homework. Anything that's cover-related but not stream-facing is homework.

>>90643875
mengen is way better

>>90647981
You are a toxic asshole. They don't need you to saviorfag them, or acting you know best.

>>90647877
Homework is and always will be the bane of actual streams of any kind.

>>90647915
No it was revealed to me in the streams where they talked about frantically messaging mane chan with tears in their eyes as they try to meet a deadline so others don't have to wait. It's noticeable in their voice packs too which have been pretty clearly worse in effort and vocal quality since the earlier part of the year. It's clear in them canceling more streams in the past few months than they did the entire 1st year of their hololive career. It's clear in them cutting every stream short, missing out on collabs, countless other things. If you want to ignore all that and say that the current situation is them operating at their best in everything that they do than I honestly think you're a piece of shit and that's insulting to their actual talent.

>>90647981
Just fuck off already you annoying fucking nigger. Holy shit. You whine because you're an autistic faggot, you can be worried without being annoying and looping every day too. Kill yourself.
The fact that you equate timeloops with caring shows your true nature as an attention whore.

>we don't want to be known as VN streams so we can't play the same games often
>play holocure 3 weeks in a row
what did they mean by this?

>>90648186
This.

>>90648186
They've directly talked about deadlines being really tough and having close calls as well as getting in trouble for some that they went over on. The nigger you're responding to will deny everything though.

>>90648186
have you stopped beating your wife lately?

>>90648289
now they'll be known as Hololive streamers...

>>90648186
Literally none of what you have posted is any evidence or argument for "failing to deliver at an acceptable level", except maybe the deadline, and that's not the first time it's happened in Hololive and won't be the last.
>It's noticeable in their voice packs too which have been pretty clearly worse in effort and vocal quality since the earlier part of the year. It's clear in them canceling more streams in the past few months than they did the entire 1st year of their hololive career. It's clear in them cutting every stream short, missing out on collabs, countless other things.
Ah, so you're just a delusional schizophrenic. My mistake.

>>90648289
they actually hate vns and find them boring. they only pretend to like vns because they are niche and make them seem like they care about obscure japanese stuff.

>>90648186
Anon, Justice themselves have been cutting streams left and right. And they are the newbies. It is just part and parcel of being busy. The alternative is for them to just give up on their sololive ambition and be more like shiori. And if that is what you want, why don't you watch shiori???

>>90647595
Why are you still posting with this script? They have improved on this. Literally just look at their con appearance days ago.

>>90648379
Damn, that would be quite the long con then!
Retard.

>>90648271
Nope. But if you want I'll be like you and enthusiastically encourage them to take on more projects. I'll express sadness that they don't have as much music as I expected for idols. I'll say they need to be in more JP collabs and streams to get a sololive.Ill ask where the promised ASMR doggy pack stream is. I'll tell them I'm looking forward to the Christmas tree and CYOA stream again this year because they were the highlight of my last year. I'll keep praising them until they are hospitalized trying to make me happy and I'll never be satisfied with him lazy they currently are.
Better?

>>90647877
>They want to find "balance", but are not willing to slow down on homework to find that balance.
Homework is inevitable, as they have said many times. Especially with everything they want to do.
>They want to spend more time with us and play lots of games, but take all the homework they can, keeping them too busy to stream.
Do they not spend time with us? Do they not stream?
>They want to stream more RnR, but constantly strain their voices with homework making those RnR's impossible.
They are the busiest they'll ever be in Hololive except for preparing for a sololive, and they're performing at events now.
>They want to be better at singing and dancing, but they are always tired because of the homework and can't give their 100%.
Are they not getting better at singing and dancing? You don't need to focus entirely on one thing to see improvement, they're not characters in a CRPG.

>>90648448
You're talking with a falseflagging anti. These fags want FUWAMOCO to burn out and to alienate all their fans trying to do everything at once.

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>>90648413
>If you want them to chill just a little, you must think they should have no ambitions!
Hello black and white schizo, how have you been?

>>90648023
I know there's multiple types of homework, but most of it is not related to singing or dancing, they are long shitty meetings to discuss merch, voice packs... And those things take away from their free time and sleep.
*They* are the ones that said that their singing was getting worse because the lack of sleep, and yet, they STILL accept all the homework they can. They can try to improve their singing by brute force doing as many singing lessons and recordings as they want, but if they actually want to improve it, then they need to do a little bit less homework and get all the rest they need.

Fighting game arc soon
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3229260/AQUAPAZZA_Aquaplus_Dream_Match/

>abusive mane-chan is kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0XW2-JvqLI

>>90648289
how many other holo talents are playing fate this week?

>>90648632
Who will Mogotyan main?

>>90648424
We haven't heard their voices yet after that karaoke. Try posting this again tonight when their voices sound like shit. Or on Saturday when they cancel streams after their barkers are dead from a week of stress. They've constantly said that their barkers are barely hanging on recently

>>90648526
Who says Shiori has no ambitions? She's had clear improvement in both singing and dancing, quite a bit, actually. People used to group her with Fauna and Ame at the start and by the time she got 3D her performances far exceeded anything these two put out in their entire careers in that specific aspect.

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>>90647718
This makes me sad. I'll never understand how someone can be so cruel to a pair of sweet girls like them. You don't like their content? Sure, to each their own. You don't like them in particular for whatever reason? That's you, you're free to like who you like and dislike who you dislike. But to tell them directly that they're worthless and that they'll never amount to anything?

>>90648718
send it as a superchat tonight because it still applies unless they start treating their careers bodies and fans with more respect

>>90648718
People are fucking nasty. Evidently in this thread.

>>90646456
I'm a chubby fuck, but I have a congenital heart problem that puts me on medication for life so I can't give any advice.

>>90647718
what are the odds this person is a sister posting in these very threads right now

>>90648842
Pero-sama...

This thread is almost as bad as the pre battle plan 2 one was. I bet Moccoo is reading this in tears again. I wonder if she'll learn from the last mistakes and do better this time. Sure hope so, stakes are even higher now and everyone is ready to abandon at a moments notice given any excuse or ambiguity

so is there anywhere to have a comfy discussion about fuwamoco or is everywhere infested with sisters and jealous retards?

>>90648875
/cgl/twannies have been seething here since before debut, so I'd say pretty decent

>>90648696
>The alternative is to give up their Sololive ambition
That's what I was talking about. Chilling out a bit doesn't mean Sololive will never be possible, but it could help them with all of the 'close calls' and tight deadline scheduling they keep running into that stresses them out, as well as give them some extra time to just relax instead of beating the piss out of themselves.

>>90648542
Or they can stream less, which gave them 2 extra hours of sleep, a 66% improvement. Still far from ideal, but there's been progress at least.
They regularly have meetings before or after streams, we have a decent idea of how long they last. Meetings are not the reason they don't have time to sleep. As much as I still agree they shouldn't be accepting everything, I don't disagree with you there, but one less voice pack will not have a noticeable effect on their sleep schedules. Not streaming at 1AM, with both the time before and after stream it also takes, is a much bigger benefit. I think FWMC Morning shouldn't return at all. It's true that they're still usually up anyway at that time, but if they have a stream commitment, there's no room for that to change. The other stuff keeping them up aren't real time obligations, they're deadline based.

>>90648931
>This thread is almost as bad as the pre battle plan 2 one was.
The thread was pretty average at that time, though. Even as the stream started, /baubau/ looked about as how you'd expect it to look like. It wasn't until FWMC dropped the bomb about wanting to do more Japanese streams that the thread took a massive nosedive. I know, I was there.

>>90647619
People are overreacting. November has been fun. The only argument is to have a slot for them to clear VN/retro games but the streams are good.

>>90648659
Literally watch streams. They scheduled a light week and cancelled a stream because of the mini RnR. That is them adjusting for the situation instead of pushing it to the point of no return like the Taipei con.

Watame just mentioned them on her stream

>>90649006
I'm with you on the FWMC Morning thing, because it really has helped at least in the sleep department slightly.

>>90648696
Shiorin eternally BTFOing shitposters with her 3D and BD was one of the best things about this year, I'm really looking forward to seeing her at Fes now. I love Advent.

>>90649062
It feels more like them cancelling because they know about Fauna's announcement in advance.

>>90648931
People are really trying to force this as a new battle plan, it doesn't even make sense. This is the "we're not graduating, ruffians" stream. Retards who think everything is about them will try to push the same angles even in chat, I'm sure, but this one is for the normalfags posting in their hashtags and egosa "don't graduate FWMC!!! and if you do tell me your next life!!!"
There are actual paypigs posting this too, so don't tell me "these people aren't membered"

>>90649080
Fluffy fluffy LOVE
What did she say? I forgot she was still streaming.

People are just upset that they're losing another streamer. Fauna still streamed semi regularly and did relatively entertaining stuff. If Mumei or Gura left right now, the number of streams people had to watch would remain the same.

I may give up hololive if fuwamoco does not play MGS3 next week

>>90649052
people aren't overreacting. it's dramafags trying to invade every single talent's chats to keep the chaos going. the discussion points here look like they were picked up from random shitposts in global for christ sake.

>>90649004
The thing is regardless of whether they are going at 200% or 70% the sololive is still impossible in 2025. There's literally no reason to kill themselves because there are time gates in place for various reasons that make it a complete impossibility. They need to ease up and really focus on the priorities. Songs. Recordings. Practice and trainings. streams when they can. fuck voice packs, fuck shilling, fuck all but mandatory EN collabs. Give more time to breath and put your full strength into your growth and music. It's worse to continue down the path they currently are where they burn insanely bright then burn out for 6 months vs operating at a sustainable pace without major pauses. Fes, expo, birthdays, summer events, holidays events are going to happen every single fhcking year without fail so it is never going to get less busy from that sense. They're absolutely delusional if they believe cover is going to give them a break in April. They already announced en reco 2 and the next EN concert will also be in that time frame. They need to get real and stop signing up for everything that isn't major major like concerts and 3D

>>90648696
>Who says Shiori has no ambitions?
This thread, who claims that everyone who is not FWMC is a whore

>>90649162
>I love Advent
Same, I am a full blown Adventrix but my oshi are Fuwawa, Mococo, and FUWAMOCO.

>>90649387
No, just Bae.

>>90649364
I will kill myself if there isn't a VN next week. Sakura Wars, Fate, White Album, hell they can even start a new VN for all I care, I just want to see them gushing over cute girls.

>>90649387
We love Shiowi, Advent and plenty of other girls here, Baeschizo

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>>90649162
I can't wait for Fuwawa gushing about it in the watchalong. Did anyone soundpost that "not yet" thing in Newissa's birthday? It was so incredibly sweet.

>>90648931
Mococo should be sleeping or doing homework instead of wasting time here, the poor retard.

>>90649062
>a light week
watch streams. They specifically said last week and this week were the busiest they have ever been. They physically did not have time to stream on the days they didn't. They barely were allowed to stream at all but they still forced a few in because they're as irresponsible as ever

>>90649252
no, it's pretty obvious when the rest of EN found out about that due to the timing of their tweets and them taking down the other frames

>>90649487
Nice try subhuman, pretending like this thread doesn't shit on Nerissa everytime they have a stream

>>90649510
Now I am confused. Are you unhappy they are streaming or what?

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>>90649399
What about...?

>>90649381
shut up sololiveschizo

>>90649387
Nah just Bae, Mori, Kronii, and ERB.

>>90649486
>hell they can even start a new VN for all I care
Fuwawa said she really wants to play Kanon this winter, but that they also want to finish White Album
We'll get 1 stream of each and not see them again until next winter

>>90649625
Nasty. Too nasty.

>>90649615
Nice try subhuman, pretending like that isn't you. I see your posts in /ope/ too faggot trying to start thread wars. You're also the one trying to push the Jailbirds as cucks narrative.

>>90649620
Yes I am unhappy they are streaming when they're overworked. I want them to take on a lower workload in general. Streams, voice packs, random meetings on bullshit. Do what's required and do the practices and don't fill the 'extra time' with streams. use it for sleep and wellness

>>90649615
>this thread
You mean the seething sisters and schizos like you who keep trying to force the most obvious falseflags ever? We love soundhounds.
At least you've given up trying to force FWMC vs. Biboo after being completely gatekept from /gem/, kek

>>90649724
Ah and the classic deflection, kill yourself.

>>90649252
Fuwawa was constantly telling Mococo to stop screaming during Kuukiyomi, though. I'm sure the Fauna announcement was critical for that choice, but it could very well be a case of Mane-chan telling them to cancel at least one stream anyway.

>>90649631
You believe there is a chance they have a sololive in 2025? You're as delusional as they are if yes. Even if they had a flawless career and perfect album release it can't happen logistically until late 2026 or beyond at the absolute earliest.

>>90649847
Keep seething, sis.

>>90649833
I don't even know why they go after nerissa. She is literally their 3rd sister.

>>90649858
>You believe there is a chance they have a sololive in 2025?
No one here believes this. I've never even seen anyone entertain this idea. Even FWMC would scoff at the mere prospect. What even is this strawman?

>>90649856
>Kuukiyomi
That stream again proved to me Mococo cannot be trusted to take care of her health and likely should be suspended again or at least put on a much tighter leash. You could tell Fuwawa was worried about another taipei fluffy week incident and Mococo seems to have learned nothing

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>>90649488
>Did anyone soundpost that "not yet" thing in Newissa's birthday? It was so incredibly sweet.
I don't think so, we still don't have a regular replacement soundposter.
I'll add it to the list for when I finally fix my pc

>>90649965
Because Nerissa has the second most subs in Advent? Notice that for the most part sisters have stopped seething about Shiori. Shiggers are so lucky...

>>90648463
>They are the busiest they'll ever be in Hololive
They said the same thing on summer. It seems like they are always "the busiest that they'll ever be".

>>90650000
anon, follow the reply chain, his original point is that since the sololive isn't happening in 2025, they don't need to rush now.
I still disagree because it's the opposite, once preparations for a sololive begin, they won't have time for anything else, this is the only time they can rush. But at least address his point.

>>90649488
>Did anyone soundpost that "not yet" thing in Newissa's birthday?
What thing? Got a timestamp?

>>90650000
So there's no rush, is my point. They're acting like there's a deadline for it by overworking when they should be step by step improving as they constantly preach but never practice

>>90649965
That schizo who hates Nerissa (who's probably just Baeschizo) dates all the way back to their first Apex collab. He spent all of the thread shitting on Nerissa and amped it up when it looked like Nerissa wanted the collab to end early.

>>90650046
I'll do it, one second.

>>90650046
>>90650120
I remember seeing it on Twitter and bookmarking it but I am afraid of posting it because it's made by someone the obsessed schizo goes apeshit over

>>90650190
Nerissa's also an easy target since she did a lot of collabs outside the Hololive garden with undesirables. Sucks for Jailbirds but as long as she keeps that shit separate, I'm glad she's one of FUWAMOCO's friends.

>>90649006
They are ALREADY cutting back on streams, and it would be fine, but they are just replacing those streams with even MORE homework, so it's fucking pointless.

Have FUWAMOCO sang Tsukiakari no Michishirube in a karaoke yet?

>>90649965
It's baffling but sisters have never had an overabundance of brains or sense. I figure it's because /ope/ is slow enough that they can get away with it, but who knows. Trying to anti Diamond Dogs is just as delusional, I still remember when Bibbers said she was moving to Japan and they started posting about "their oshi Bijou" in /gem/, kek

>>90650283
Who cares what schizos say. Someone make the soundpost. You can download it as a twitter video I assume?
https://x.com/phoenixdawwn/status/1859790240287949101

>>90650408
>I figure it's because /ope/ is slow enough that they can get away with it
It's 100% this. /ope/ has gotten even slower recently too.

>>90650075
>They said the same thing on summer. It seems like they are always "the busiest that they'll ever be".
From summer until April next year, yes. As they have specifically said multiple times by now and posters /here/ have pointed out.

>>90650246
Thanks, Mogogo.

>>90650120
Nerissa has to guess who she was(shiori) and asked if she is known for singing. Someone said no and Fuwawa emphasized "not yet".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJajbdH6q60&t=5380s

>>90650455
HNNNNNGH FUWAWA IS SO CUTE AND SUPPORTIVE I LOVE HER FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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>>90650455
>Hmm, not yet

>>90650529
And then when fes ends in march they'll say they looked at rhe calendars and it's filled until September. We went through this same scenario already once this year won't be different it'll be worse

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>>90650455
>>90650571
I love Advent so much, bros.

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>>90649488
I still remember being blown away when Shiori performed world.execute(me). She did such a great job. I still go back to rewatch it from time to time.

Shiori's model is so sex, I sometimes wonder if Fuwawa had it, maybe I'd just die from dehydration.

>>90650706
They won't. They'll still be busy, yeah, but they'll never be THIS busy again for this long unless they're preparing for their sololive.
>We went through this same scenario already once this year won't be different it'll be worse
We've only been through one year, so I don't know what makes you say this.

>>90650844
I just went back to listen to it again because of this post.

>>90650905
Shiori is as sexy if not more than Fuwawa. The only reason they haven't had a one on one collab is because youtube would strike the channel down even if it were flagged for explicit content

>>90650961
NTA but they have only gotten busier every time. Saying they'll never be this busy again is something they've said before only to get even busier. There's always something, before it was 3D, Anni, and BD, now it's FES, and the amount of projects are only increasing.

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SHIORIN LOVE
SHIORIN DANCING LOVE
SHIORIN VOCALOID SUITED VOICE LOVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI_kkSCX8vM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI_kkSCX8vM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI_kkSCX8vM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI_kkSCX8vM
ADVENT ANTIS ARE STINKY

>>90650961
I think he's talking about how during the move and a little after, they said that they'd be busy until September. Then July rolled around and they said December. Then they promptly pushed it back half a week later to March 2025.

>>90651048
>The only reason they haven't had a one on one collab is because youtube would strike the channel down even if it were flagged for explicit content
That would've happened during the Patra collab. Patra's tits are bigger and more obscene than Fuwawa's.

>>90651048
I don't find Shiori sexy at all. Just her design.

>>90650844
Easily my favourite performance of BD, amazing choice for a song and she nailed it.