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Sup bitches
saplings lostgo back>>>/vt/lig/
https://x.com/yagami146/status/1862473078816837654https://x.com/water_aquarium/status/1862553148608647329These are the most logical and likely reason why holos are quitting in drove imo
im towa
>>90636900Not now, Selenfag
>>90636867im gonna eat that out
Squirm to me Nijihomo Loser
I'm so happy I never have to see you again, Ennacuck. I sincerely hope you die from prostrate cancer then burn in Hell with the rest of your family.
>>90636874Everyone in this picture will graduate btw
As a SEAChad I LOVE management. I don't care if entire gens graduate. As long as Yagoo is okay everything will be fine.
Calm down.
>>90636874thread theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR9Nov26YFA
>>90636911>my Holo oshi is now an indieAh well, shucks but>YOU ARE NOR PART OF /lig/Bitch please, /lig/ doesn't even talk about notAme
What did Kiara actually said? No meme answers
SNO run this board. Shitting on Fauna outs you as a tourist and a bootlicker.
>>90636830anon, you're ignoring the fact that Mori DOES realize it and that's what's making her feel mixedand it's more than her, the sponsorship, music release and performance opportunities the other girls receive still exists thanks to so called "new direction" and that's why majority with them stay and deal with it
>>90636991Won't he still be going after IRyS?
>>90636817Yeah she was in Shirayuri Productions
Chances Advent and ReGloss started getting worse contracts than the ones before?
>>90637004Anon...EVERYONE in hololive will graduate eventually.
>>90636911This is going to be /uuu2/ just like always now, and in a months time and beyond
>>90636922>https://x.com/yagami146/status/1862473078816837654>https://x.com/water_aquarium/status/1862553148608647329Mio already disproved that.
>>90637016>crosspostingthe desperation lul
My condolence to the saplings. Your salty tears helped with my fever. It is finally coming down to 99. My cough is much better now.Have a Fauna. Enjoy your last moment and say your prayers hopefully it can reach Jesus during his birthday.
>>90636967Rude.Fauna might be a loser, but she's not a nijihomo.
>>90637024yeah ame (and now fauna) is a part of /big/, the thread about indies that actually matter
>>90637004Good, then I can drop Holo for good >>90637030“Miko’s pussy tasted good”
>>90637046He's lost half his reason to live. This thread needs more IRyStocrats or he will have no one to talk to or take his baits. I am worried he will kill himself now...
>>90636874BASEDKRONII IS NEXT RIGHT AFTER THEM 3
>>90637074mio is a witch
>>90636874Only time will tell
>Outlived Fauna/#/ BTFO yet again
>>90636911I'm not going anywhere. And I will keep spamming the EN tally every time Lemonleaf gets gold to remind you how Hololive isn't worth shit without Faufau in it.
>>90637159>KroniiBut she has done nothing wrong? She is friend with kronies right?
>>90636922Pfft why are they worried, this is definitely an EN only problem, right fellow SEAChads?
>>90637174Mio specifically said that overwork wasn't what put her in the hospital and she told people to stop shitting on management too.
Can saplings and chumbuds just fuck off already? The the girls are happy, don’t ruin it for them
>>90637113Stop pretending to be a Christian, seanigger.
200k soon!
>>90637015chu
>>90637122>moving the goalpostJust like /xhlgg/ huh?
>>90637200honestly I'm eager to see /#/ begrudgingly having to accept Twitch CCVs
Just woke up feeling refreshed and radicalized. Ready to spend my entire sunday shitting on the kafirs in holo management.
>>90637216If I can't be happy then no one will.
>Another Graduation that isn’t WawaPic related is my thoughts
>>90637216You shitpost with Bijou yet do not understand the massive talent gap between Myth/Promise and Advent/Justice. EN is literally dead now. No one will stick around for a bunch of SEA girls with uwu voices.
>>90637244SHONDO MOGGEDHOLOPIGGIES WILL ALWAYS FOLLOW
>>90637218But why
I never liked Advent. That Nerizzler shit turned me off them forever. I even had it in my filters at one point.
but seriously whats mumeis fatenot even baiting, shes doggedly chasing a college degree and has alluded to returning to drawing again on other accounts, very sparse and sporadic streams for over a year
>>90637216chu chu
>>90637244She's going to absolutely destroy HoloEN's numbers lmao.>Who would win? The combined might of the strongest vtubing agency in the western world? Or one cute gaming ex-kirin? The results may shock you!
>>90637122Fuck you, Lemon will have her own general just like /uuu/. I will never associate with the scum of /lig/ or /big/.
>>90637262No.Twitch can compare to twitch numbers, but comparing twitch to YT has always been and always will be fucking retarded.
>>90637074>company propaganda says there are no issues within the company
>>90636840Imagine if Fauna had a manager that actually cared
>>90637330I asked
I can't stop smiling, /#/brosWhat a great day
>>90637356Yep, just like dookie and doobie amirite?
>>90637216>the girls are happyThat's why they're all panicking and running attempted damage control after 4 in 4
>>90637394I trust the talents more than twitter randos.
>>90637386well, depending on how hard former saplings push, you're about to see said retardation come to life
>all of these graduation predictions and every single one of your predictions before this were wrongfucking kekno one predicted thiswhat makes you think i will believe you now
>>90637330Based and same. There is probably a 10 year age gap between the average Myth/Promise fan compared with Adventrix.
>>90637244is she going to dunk on justice, regloss and flowglow?
>>90637244Dooby, Senz, Shachi, Lemon mini Group soon? Anyone else might join?
>>90637408We can tell from your insane amount of shitposting that you're very happy, yes.
>>90637386I'm going to be posting notFauna's numbers every day in this thread and you're going to take it.
>>90637296>Bummer I guess
>>90636922Yagoo is on the girls' side, hes just been put in the cuckshed by the other suits and has no power now
>>90637476MAID MINT
>>90637476Stop trying this shit, you repugnant brown faggot.
>>90637471And that is a good thing ojisans are on their way out
>>90637442No one is going to put them togetherAt the most you'll see a Twitch-exclusive tally Which was already recommended, but the schizo didn't care to do it themselvesThen again they may not like that because it would put some other twitch vtubers in the shade
>>90637476a full women group is not going to work without a mediator
I really love the way this guy draw Botanthe extra plumpness is really nice its just barely enough to not be fat
>>90637448>no one predicted thisBitch I told (you) she's gone the moments she dropped that shrimp vid but (you) called me a schizo.
>>90637342Mumei is already loaded and is focusing on college. She probably doesn't see Hololive as worthwhile anymore.That's also why CC wanted to collab with her as much as possible before she left. Just as she did with Ame, and as she did with Fauna.
>>90637489You might not want to do that after a month of her being indie and her CCV starts to drop
>>90637506>we lived long enough to see squirmbeat asslick CoverIt has to be something genetic for seapes
>>90637408Karma working in real time was amazing
>>90637476Doobyfag cope
>>90637475That’s not even a question, only one of those shitters that can compete is Biboo and that’s because of bots and raids
>>90637489You're free to do so, as long as you don't take the next step of being utterly retarded and trying to compare twitch and youtube numbers against each other.
>>90637509KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO, man I love that picture
MAN DOWN
It's hilarious how right Fatgur was in the end. Council really didn't do as well as expected.
>>90637541The average Myth/Promise fan is 28 to 34. They could have been buying hololive merch for decades but Cover is breathtakingly retarded.
>>90637419How many HoloEN members who aren't on their way out have better noombers than doob?
>>90637605What was this bloke working on?
Been in /#/ long enough to see it come to a civil war between loyatly to cover vs Former Holos.
>>90637585>Biboo>Justice, regloss or flowglowDumbass
Japs jinx
Your first mistake is trusting him
>>90637218Nice try. It is imperative for me to prove that I am Christian but at the same time I know it is not wise to compromise myself to swatting especially in a state that hates us. I would refrain from invoking the name of Christ as much as possible after this because it seems like it triggers infidels like you instead of the targeted audiences.
>>90637433>I trust the management dog to not lie to me about management
>>90637642All of them outside of Shiori, basically.
>>90637191How does Kronii do it?
>>90637653ok larper
>obvious ennacuck larping as squirmbeat scenario again
>ReGLOSS 3D Live Reach the Tophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYvks57cQA>1st Album "ReGLOSS"https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mchguozrz3dFDusBI-DFmOiDYdKew6Hb4>Feeling Gradation *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=u4uDiV3u-do>セプテンバーさん / September-san (cover) *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQ-npgd2Ok>快晴 / Kaisei (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7QcvdHk70>青と夏 / Ao To Natsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAk_ZGfvdw>青のすみか / Ao no Sumika (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=efF_c9D-R-A>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0>奏 / Kanade (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw>My Dearest (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI>カバー曲 / Cover Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR>歌まとめ / All Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1
>>90637244What's her fanbase's name?
>>90637677>seagroid thinks this is an EN only problem
you WILL watch liggers and you WILL enjoy it
>>90637668I haven't watched anyone after Council debuted. Can't be bothered to remember the shitters.
>>90637489LL 2K DORYAAAAAAAAAA
>>90637642All of them?
>>90637605>SEAAnd nothing of value was lost
Holy discord raid
>>90637605this implies he has drawn his art in a "sane" state of mind
>>90636922Yagoo isnt in power anymore. It's Kaneko and the HR guy
>>90637476Add IRyS…… honestly it’s kinda shit how the 2 most well known En RMs never follow them huh
>>90637587I dont think that will happen, except by the usual suspect who always does that
>>90637743I asked
>>90637710Spite
>>90637030Some of it>>90632864
>>90637806post your recap
>>90637743>I haven't watched anyoneFixed.
>>90636874
>>90637748You're going to be in for a rude awakening when she consistently beats out the top EN girls over and over and over again. No one left in EN has close to the numbers that Fauna had. She's a mini-Gura, chumbud prime. Don't say I didn't warn you.
>>90637787YikesBut IRyS loves idolshit and singing and LIVING IN JAPANSo IRyS will never graduate
>>90637825That is a meme answer. It's literally making fun of Yakuza next week and suit up KFP posts.
>>90637850>1/3whos a next
>>90637850BAAAAAAAASED
>>90637663>a civil war between loyatly to cover vs Former HolosIt didn't happen when Aqua and Sakamata who were objectively more popular worldwide, you know that >this thread is heavily, monitored, I would say in favor of the person who is running away with her fans' money now># is the most influential thread, if you count # as the only general in /vt/It was pretty influential back in the days, but after some guy started monitoring it in May 2023 everything came downhill. A lot of people left and only like a handful left in # understand Japanese now.
>>90637787Add Nerissa
>>90637852One would think this thread would learn after Aqua took most of her numbers with her
>>90637476Aren't you forgetting someone?
>>90637850
The catalog is a wasteland of the lower classes as expected
>>90637852ccgg are gonna be the only ones keeping EN afloat after this, but honestly I can't imagine them staying more than a couple of years
Some anons have been asking "how about now, Fubuki?"I would like to remind you that the real Fubuki died when she downgraded her model last year.It hasn't been safe ever since.
>>90637740Only Ex Holos
>>90637899No one in /#/ actually gives a shit about JP besides their numbers. This is /uuu2/. A revolution here will light up the entire EN scene.
>>90637722lemontomos
crazy people think the only actually funny Vtuber is going to have trouble going indie. I bet 90% of you still think she's an ASMR bunny.If Ame can do it because she has a cute *hic* somebody with an actual talent for streaming is gonna be just fine
Nigga I don't feel so goodLast time someone got 3D, someone will get firedhttps://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1863221517418451440?t=CbrokQX36Q1_xEfoNwzmhg&s=19
>>90637852Lol. All it needs to happens is for another Holo like Ina or CC to stream Minecraft/FOTM in Fauna's former timeslot and nothing will change. Fauna was not special at all.>>90637933>Seriously comparing Aqua to FaunaSaplings really are fucking delusional, holy shit.
I went from being here every single day and watching 20 hours of streams to only watching Fauna in the past few months. If I was still full on into chuubas this shit would be devastiting, especially regarding my allegiance to Hololive. Now I just don't care. Fuck Fagoo and these retarded niggers. Fuck this retarded hobby filled with sea negros and retards.
was there some allusion to faunas graduation being leaked in advance?
>>90637891this nigger didn't even read
>>90637663Only seachimps were loyal to Cover over the girls. They're still awake which is why you still see Cover fellation
>>90637825>"it is management's fault">but you are staying>it is not like this let me explain to youProceed to explain nothing at all, just throwing up buzzword and said "it is complicated". Oh well, it is easy to blame management for saplings to cope but all of us know there is more behind the story.
I'm enjoying this holo civil war arc ngl
>>90637959CC and GG subs haven't even beaten Sana's yet
>>90637985Hahahahahaha
How many months before she reincarnates?
>>90638030Leaked early 2023With a confirmed graduation date.
>>90637985I'm glad you sapcucks got what you deserve
>>90637985>This is /uuu2/Anything to say to this post? >>90637113
>>90637419>dookie was a 3k shitter before leaving>3-4k shitter now>Dooby was 5-7k shitter before leaving>6-8k shitter nowActually yes, recent graduation show she should continue bringing about the same numbers
>>90638056t. Samefag
>>90637938
All the white women are leaving HoloEN. Pretty soon it's only going to be infested by chinks and seagroids. What can you expect out of DEI policies though.
>>90638132Both those posts were made by the same schizo
>>90637959>unironic ex-nijisister is going to keep EN afloatuh holokeks our cope?
>>90636659Challenge failed I guess.
>>90638163All three posts you mean
ah time for small corpo asmr see you cucks
large indies global was right
>>90638140>6-8k shitter nowWait till the dramabuff ran out like with dookie.
>>90638099one
>>90638212Which drama?
>>90637330Advent and Justice always seemed like they were trying to usurp Myth/Promise instead of supplementing them. Corporate was way more heavy handed in their formation, and they were molded together to fit specific roles including a forced gen-unity their predecessors lacked. It was all very uncanny valley in a way. People got into a tizzy whenever Myth or Promise members got into spats or had minor fallouts, but at least it was organic and natural. You'll never see Advent or Justice have any breaks in "unity", not because it doesn't exist, but because it's contractually forbidden. Gotta go for that true idol fakery.
>>90638161go back /pol/ retard
>>90637825>"Thank God this is a members' stream."uhhh
>>90638140dooby is getting boosted by the bigger liggers, it's artificialfauna doesn't have the same pulling power or connections
>>90637934Dumb fucking bitch probably tied at the ankles by the phase contract
>>90638112>Actually biting retard bait and spewing it back out all over /#/ againkys
>>90638161>All the white women are leaving HoloENand this is a good thing, I dont wish a single white woman works for asians, asians will never understand whites and whites will never understand asians
>>90638140>Dooby was 5-7k shitter before leaving>6-8k shitter nowOh really? Cause last time I watched her, she was doing a multi-game stream on Twitch and she couldn't break 5k. ON TWITCH.
>>90638181They uuuuuuh became Gura's sidekicks!
>those sub lossesSapcucks...
>>90637419No one in EN has even half the talent of Fauna. She's going to be a consistent 10k streamer as always, especially now that she has access to indies outside Hololive. Face it, HoloEN is dead. It's the Age of Indies now.
>>90638293
>>90638212But Dookie still gets her corpo numbersMint still gets her corpo numbersDooby is still getting her corpo numbersYou have your head buried in the sand
>>90638212She literally got 12k a few days ago and only gets the lower numbers on twitch. I was being generous and lowering her numbers but you wouldn’t know that faggot
>>90637330kill yourself Biboo schizo.you cant even buy merch poorfag
>doki and mint need more big name indies to leech from>convince fauna to graduate with maximum drama, hoping to have another selen/niji moment where the company will start to be seen as evil, which will drive away others to graduate too and have the fans rally around faunacan someone explain why this isn't correct? why is biboo moving to japan if cover is evil? why are mori and kiara not doomposting if cover is evil? why are most JPs and ENs saying that nothing has really changed recently?
>>90638212It's been 2 months
>>90638163>>90638187I am pointing to my own post yeah because I want them to repent. Why would I repeat saplings' mindless schizoid talk? Are you coping because you think only 1 person is fed up with that schizo who is no longer monitoring now?
>>90637825Amazing. We learned absolutely nothing
>>90638315Faunas yapping and general stream entertainment skills have only become better and better so she should thrive as an indie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9gDgzgeQYc
>>90638305That can't be everything...
>biboo and FWMC moved to japan>fauna gone>kiara in europeHonestly I think Nerissa might meltdown and graduate if something happens to Gigi or Shiori.
>>90638161good this is a chink hobby, the grifting e-whores can leave anytime
>>90638254>mythpromise boomer anti hololive alreadyoh I'm laughing
>>90638335She got 12k from a special event stream. Also, still riding the post-graduation buff. Some of you really are a little retarded, huh?
>blaming management
>>90638416Nerissa still has ERB
Happy Christmas!!! Can you believe it?? only 2 weeks away!
>>90638431post your recap
>>90638285>uuuTouche. They are not even good sidekicks, not joining Gura's project. Gura still have most streams with other Myth members.
>>90638305The fuck did Reine do
>>90638469Nerissa and ERB have no chemistry as a ship or really as a streaming pair.
>>90638491Having saplings in her fanbase.
>>90638282>on twitchShe would get like 5k or less playing Mario sunshine or New Vegas and then jump up again when she played anything interesting. Don’t pretend to be a numberfag when you don’t know shit idiot. Those ranges are the Average, and guess what she then went on YT and grabbed 11k the next stream without any raids or bots unlike Biboo.
>>90638475Allahu ackbar negro
>>90638468Because sapkeks are coping.
>>90638293>73k tweetsWho the fuck is this
>>90638364I can't believe Doki and Mint convinced Aqua and Chloe to leave too.You are hopelessly retarded.
Sad for the girlsSad for saplings outside of this place (Some of them are still my friends)BUTI will laugh at you fags till the end of timeUnironically deserved
>>90638404Golden gen
>>90638469>
>>90638558
>>90638293Would it be better to start something new instead of using that?
Apologize to Kson she was right and tried to warn us.
>>90638468seatard
>>90638558I have no idea but imma guess Nerissa since she the Twitter brainrotted one
>>90638542>Thanksgiving Special w/ Family Members
If Advent and Justice are seriously the future of HoloEN, Cover is absolutely, 100% fucked. How are you going to make money off 3k Shiori or 2k ERB? Biboo is a failed Gura clone and Fuwamoco are the fakest bitches I've ever seen. CCGG is the only good thing left in this rotten corpo.
>>90638305>hololive losing subssaplings are pissed kek
>>90638592I'll take that as your concession
>>90637653Post membership
Anyone else thankful that shitposts are dumb as fucking bricks? They literally outlined their whole shitposting plan in advance>saplings vs holomems>lig vs holo>spamming the cripple tally with twitch numbers while pretending to be a sapling>ame vs fauna>advent/justice vs holoen
>>90638478post your merch
it was fun seeing saplings cope when you pointed out that the gaming idol didnt streami was right again and got called a schizo anti over it too
Maybe that it's just me getting older, but doesn't it feel more in the recent years like it's impossible to have just nice things anymore? Everyone just seems to desperately cling on the vestiges of what was once their joy, before that eventually crumbles away too with nothing to replace it.
G-guys, Chloe is graduating too...
>>90638542Bro, Twitch counts people who are tabbed out or have the stream muted. 5k on Twitch does not equal 5k on YouTube. The other was a special stream, first time ever that her family was on stream. I like dooby, but you need to stop being a mongoloid.
>>90638699its literally just selenfag and one other spamming on cooldown
>>90638533That's any pair involving ERB.
>>90638659BAU BAU
>>90638542>Biboo out of nowheredon't give yourself away that easily vermin
>>9063869990% of all those shitposts are being made by a single schizo so I guess that's why they seem more stupid than usual.
... Will Mumei announce graduation today or are we good until after Holofes barring termination?
>>90638722EOP board.
>>90637681Oh you’re a fucking adult convert at best go away and shut the fuck up. Nobody says infidels you freak.
>>90638722Who?
>>90638721That's why you gotta be a normie with kids, a mortgage and picket fence, otherwise you will rope as you get old
>>90638722Sorry anon, seaturds are busy running defence for Cover and they need JP to be a perfect wonderland for that to happen. Any irregularities there will be forcibly memoryholed.
>>90638659>idol and music is the future>hires 0 singer-songwritersand no CC being able to compose a bit of music doesnt countwhat fucking retards, there has to be a lot of indie pop singer-songwriters in their applications but I guess they cannot compete with old ani cover singers because the new management only looks at numbers instead of quality
>>90638659ya but also ccgg are worthless too, 8k on a collab with no one live is pathetic
>>90638699Add that one obvious seatard that keep calling other sea too.
>>90638438Ame was a 6k average before the graduation announcement btw, you acting like these numbers is what she had before is the true sign of stupidity. Also I forgot to include Sakuna, she also getting her Holo numbers and will still do so after the buff is gone.>muh ksonThe one who joined Vshojo, the one who started fleshstreaming and can ONLY get those numbers anymore thru fleshstreaming? Also coco was a 4k shitter unless she was doing meme review anyways
>>90638699This entire thread only exists as a shitposting ground. Why are you mad?
Christmas came early huh? I am so happy!
these will be gone soon, people will still talk about her for the first couple of months, people will start reminiscing about her in the first couple of years, and then people will start forgetting about her existence after 5+ years as the fans come and go
>>90638722She'll anyhow become an affiliate and will get Cover's support, Fauna on the other hand will go back to being an indie
>>90638722one of my coworkers who i worked with for more than i followed fauna died last week, i feel sadder about fauna than about his passing, take it for what you will
>>90638827That collab was on a major debuff channel, though. if the CCGG collab was on CC's stream it would've broken 10k.
>>90638721Just follow an indie that you like that can do vtubing full time and she will do it forever (or until she gets a menhera attack that ends it but that is a risk for corpo vtubers too)
>>90638854Thankful*
>>90638767Until the roster and key visuals for the next Holofes is announced, no.
>>90638726Twitch isn’t her main audience fucking tard, she literally said on her 1st stream that Twitch would be her “idgaf” streams and YT would be the planned ones
>>90638659What, you don't have trust in your GOLDEN GEN who SAVED HOLOEN? Come on, who are you? Homosis?
>>90638832lucky bitch, i'm still waiting for my damned merch
>>90638659Myth>did not quit despite how bad management were for the past 4 years>CouncilQuitting one by one, mostly because they are not fit to be part of hololive in the first place which is why they are quitting. Literally brought nothing to the table, EN branch was almost invisible on wider youtube.>AdventOne (pair) of them made their effort to get 1m sub. Others are feeling the enthusiasm too and are catching up>JusticeFinally EU has something of their own. Karaoke-fags also have someone who can do EN karaoke non stop.
>>90638863She's going to be my main form of entertainment in the future, just like she has been for the past 2 years
>>90638832really looking forward to the tree-kun plushie
>>90638722She graduated for me already, back when she schizoed out over fucking ghosts.
>>90638853Ok, you can keep being a moron, I don't care. Just don't get mad when people start making fun of LL's numbers and grudgeposting you.
>>90638491>The fuck did Reine doHer sub growth is so slow she isn't beating the cull. She ticked once in the last 30 days and she just lost it
>>90638882GayFuck Off
Why are 21k watching Watame at this time?
>>90637997>If Ame can do it because she has a cute *hic* somebody with an actual talent for streaming is gonna be just finenice to see sapkeks are still seething about Ame, I remember when you said unlike Ame Fauna will see hololive to the end because she loves hololive but she was the one who ended up throwing everyone under the bus unlike Ame who went out of her way to avoid that, get fucked
>No Ame>No Fauna(Mart) En Reco2 is gonna be grim bros, I don’t wanna lose anymore but chances are we will….
>>90638721>>90638900Nah I'm done with everything after January. I don't even know if I will wait that long, it's back to anime and vidja for me, indies are not the same as Holo and will never be and Holo is not Holo anymore either. The only thing keeping this hobby alive and different from fleshshit is gone.
>>90638940Councilkeks will cope but they were objectively shit for the majority of their career. Only Irys has an excuse with being completely fucked over from start to finish.
>>90638882This looks gay, is this FPS related?
>>90638721THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE GREEN WOMAN IN HOLOLIVE
Wrong thread sapcucks. This is the holo thread.
>>90638892>debuff channel at same time that has nearly the same average viewsnice cope justard
>>90639027therapy sheep is cute
>>90639033There will be no ENreco without Fauna.
>>90638940You haven't witnessed true desperation until you see a shitposter force himself to positively compare ERB against Promise.
>>90637899>but after some guy started monitoring it in May 2023 everything came downhill>A lot of people left and only like a handful left in # understand Japanese nowNow that you mentioned it, its been some time since we have the tally. Even tally anon is fed up with him.
>>90638721>WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH
>>90637997Fauna's talent was getting lucky and getting nearly 2 full years of HoloNA's primetime slot for herself while everyone else wasn't streaming.
>>90638995She will be getting 15k for a month and slowly go back to the 9k range? Yeah I know what’s gonna happen, biboo will get 10k and enna cuck will shit on her along with some of you others. I’m ready for it
i think we are in dire need of EN5
>>90638940FUNGUS COVID WAS ALWAYS RIGHT
>>90639027shes healing my hurt
>>90638305htf did the homo lose subs, he released a group cover today
>>90638659>Ex nijisister is the only good thing left in hololiveayy lmao
>>90639097I for one enjoy the karaoke. It is not the best but it will do. I don't watch anything else from her.
If you don't trust cover trust Friend...
>>90638557Coping about what? We are having unprecedent amounts of graduations for Hololive standards. New gens both on the JP and EN side are doing significantly worse than the older ones. All while Cover is wasting a retarded amount of money on shitty mocap studios and a fucking Ark clone no one asked for.
>>90639033This why we got Justice so fast after Advent but Justice idk, it ain’t enough, we need another Gen if Gura and Mumei leave too
>>90639153That won't fix management
i just can't stop thinking about LL Cool J everytime niggers shitposting while saying LL
>>906391402025 really is gonna be the year of grudgeposting saplings still living in fantasy land. Fauna was always mid as fuck. She was a 2view without Hololive, don't forget that.
>>90639169They hate him because he told them the truth.
>>90639190Friend ain’t gonna say shit she gets costumes and studio time all the time.
>>906392393view, actually, sometimes hitting 4view
>>90639190Fubuki would never betray us.
>>90639202Unironically if Erb was a real talent and not whatever Erb is, I would be much more optimistic about HoloEN's future.
>>90639212It will because management is responsible for upcoming gens. Jap never needed to care about Myth or Promise because his career rides on Advent and beyond
>>90639190FTFY
>>90639191>New gens both on the JP and EN side are doing significantly worse than the older onesNIJISEETHE Can you even name the new gen of nijiEN? They are nothing compare to hololive.
>>90639190I believe in them
>>90639272Erb is literally a wasted slot, it was basically a Homo hire
>>90639191You can't argue with them, they'll just jump to a new girl and blame the previous one. It'll never be the company's fault, how dare a talent even insinuate that!
>>90639190There is no friend >>90637973
>>90639191How is Cover spending their own cut on things got anything to do with whatever Hololive management is failing at? There will be seperate teams running all this shit.
>>90639307>the 2 Asian onesI guess only the white ones have feelings (yes that includes IRyS)
>>90639307Based
>>90639045Same, it's a shame but no way I'm downgrading my enjoyment by watching indie shit, the rest of the corpos are equally trash.
>>90639300I don't know why you retards keep defaulting to Jap. Head management is the problem, which is why JP is on fire too. Pull your head out of your ass. Things will not get better as long as the main office remains unchanged.
recommend me a good romance manga
>>90639191>Fauna graduated>now it is the time to shit on other holos because Fauna is no longer related to themDo saplings really? I remember some people don't accept the mediocrity of numbers for the new gen despite showing the graph which is barely above 5k ccv average.
>>90639045dont bother with anime, Sony is making sure to turn it woke too. But ill keep watching some holos, i dont hate them.
>>90639045Unironically true, I guess I was getting back into sports a bit. Might just be the drunk fuck watching sports on his spare time again. Ahh what a nice 3 yrs that was bros, it made me happy
>>90639462Bloom Into You
>>90638863Or she will become a laughing stock like Kekson and Michael Cat.
>>90639191>saplings now have the same rhetoric as the nijinigsDamn, I would never dream to see the day.
>>90638699But the spamming is so obvious it's easy too ignore
>>90638863Ill be 38 in 5 years and probbly have dementia
>>90639191You can't post stuff like this while sea is awake, it will make them very angery
>Faunaschizo vindicatedThis is actually the worst thing that came out of all this/#/ is truly the laughing stock of /vt/
We are going to get 2 en gen in 2025?
>>90639045I got the final push yesterday, see you on /a/ bro o7
>>90639190Nah, I'm sorry, I can trust a JP as far as I can throw them when it comes to EN management. I don't think there was a single JP getting even half the shit IRyS did up until recently, and even then there's clear fucking problems on the EN side compared to JP.
Used to only buy the concert days my oshi came out on but I guess I can just start pirating all of it from now on.
>>90639190Talk to us then. She's hiding.
>>90639541>dementia at 38sapling...
>>90638699Which discord are you trying to blame right now, schizo? You probably need meds the most here. Other people are having fun discussion and put out valid point and all you said were>boogieman points
>>90638659>If Advent and Justice are seriously the future of HoloENBiboo is the next in the Ina/Fauna stable line. She has a high floor and a high average. Her ccv numbers were a bit below Fauna's but not by much. She'll likely incline with Fauna leaving.CC is the next in that line and her numbers are a bit lower and in EU hours, but she will also likely incline. She serves as a great start to get the numbers rolling for the day.FWMC is the very high ceiling low floor, tourist magnets. They have a solid role.GG is quite a bit lower but has shown to have good tourist draw and ceiling in the right circumstances. Potential woman I guess.Raora has solid numbers in an odd timeslot for EN.Nerissa's numbers are a bit all over the place, but still a high potential ceiling. Will probably also incline over the next year. High potential with music to.ERB gets pretty good karaoke numbers when she feels like streaming I guess.Shiori despite her best efforts has okay numbers for the "runt" of the branch. Largely a niche audience that might not watch holo with out here to.EN5 will come in May, they just need couple of good ones in there to fill things out a bit
>>90639455You must be unaware of how office politics works. If his golden goose was on the chopping block, he would do whatever it takes to keep them on board because that's his performance review. When it's Fauna who has been around for years succeeding with or without him, there is no reason for him to stick out his head to protect herPeople management is always careful to pick their battles correctly because you only get so much leeway or so much influence
>>90639563Wow /a/ has terrible taste.
I miss Fauna
>>90639556I am so happy. The chad has won.FUCKING WON THIS BATTLE AGAINST THE MOST VILE SHIT THAT RUIN THIS THREAD
>>90639033>no Gura>no Mumei
>>90639556Is he? When you say she is going to graduate every single day you will eventually be right.
>>90639563No retarded dragon girls?
>>90639674It's cute you think I'm going to leave, especially if she reincarnates.
>>90639563Ping Pong is kino and Cautious Hero is good. Idk how that’s supposed to be autism, the cautious hero literally was doing the right thing the whole time to save his beloved.
>>90639668
>>90639684>First promise to graduateHe kind of won
>>90638863Think I'm going to learn to draw Fauna, draw her from time to time
>>90639111RIP tally anon. Actually this place has gotten slower especially during late EU and early NA hours because of you know who. Less and less people are enjoying the thread because of rampages.
>>90638912Yagoo waiting until Fauna's announcement to tweet at Chloe makes it seem like it's over for now.
total sapling death
>>90639191>unprecedented amount of graduationsOnly Fauna and Aqua have graduated this year.
>>90639563>Ping pong and WttNHK mehI knew you numberfags were retards.
>>90639676The 3 hats girls l….(someone post the fanart)
>>90639632Still sticking to ENStill ignoring the problems in JPIgnoring that the goose itself seems ready to fly the coop.It must be amazing living in your fantasy land.
Will Gura show up to collab with Fauna one last time, or does she despise Cover that much to the point of doing it in the next iteration instead?
>>90639306>>90639383>>90639484Yes. Despite what sisters love to say my oshi is not Cover but the talents. If said talents start fucking off then I have no reason to keep supporting Hololive.And just looking at EN things are not going that well, they used to be so above the competition a year ago it was not even fun. Like genuinely nothing else in the western hemisphere competing with them. Now we have a bunch of 3-5k streamers from HoloEN getting mogged by indies and ex Holo talents.
>>90639706I don't care about you, personally.
>>90639749uh oh Ennacuck having a melty cause xer spam gets deleted on sight
>>90639045I think I'm just gonna stick with some holos and not get invested in any future gens
>>90639526Saplings have always been the worst fanbase. We should have let the IRyStocrats roll them a long time ago.
>>90639816I don’t think she comes back
>>9063923990% of Hololive were 2 and 3 views before
>>90639819NIJISEETHE
>>90639124Her slot was considered a debuff for years until she started getting good numbers in it
>>90639816Anon, she may not come back for Fauna graduation, but she's 100% not streaming with leaf.
>>90639522i don't think Fauna want to be the Jesus of vtubing or the Judas of vtubing
>>90639749Tally anon was late one day, all you're doing is outing yourself
>>90639819The Fucking Ai is literally the top Vtuber in the west now with Gura gone
>>90639455>I don't know why you retards keep defaulting to Jap.Wow, why didn't you ask that question when this thread was busy fellating him back when Advent debut?
>>90639816she came for ame, already retweeted fauna
TOGETHER AT LAST <33333
>>90639706>>90639819Seeing you guys turning into holo-antis is both cathartic and hilarious.>>90639840IKR
>>90639896She didn't incline until Ina stopped overlapping herHaving someone of a similar streaming style start right before you is objectively a debuff
>>90639556By that logic all schizos will win in the end, it's just a matter of how many years of their lives they spend being miserable for it
>>90639944basedbasedbased
>>90639949Where in my post said I'd become an anti? All I said was I'm not leaving.
>>90639944this is the last time i ask for this, post your recap
>schizo tries to argue that theres no schizo in this thread>schizo cant stop himself from posting his usual schizo stuff
>>90639896No it wasn't. Ina was solidly the #2 in EN for a long time when she had the timeslot to herself.
>>90640033I just laugh at his samefagging and hide his post with stubs and read the next post
>>90639896Absolutely wrong.
>>90639923You really cannot separate a decision made by branch management and a decision made by top management in your stupid little seabrain, can you? Jap was responsible for Advent, so he gets praise for Advent. He's not responsible for the rot in the main Cover office, so he doesn't get the blame for that. Do you understand? Or is that too hard for you to comprehend?
>>90639944I can't wait! When will be their first collab?
>>90639563>mostly old animeThe fucking state of the industry
>>90639684I mean ... Yes? Reminder that the US don't need to win a direct war against the USSR, just outlived it.Same logic here
>>90640042These posts are always fucking stupid because that's like saying "HEY CC HAD A DEBUFF SLOT BUT SHE WAS SOOOOOOO GOOD SHE GETS 8k+" when it's about the talents in the slots and not the actual slots themselves
>>90639955>She didn't incline until Ina stopped overlapping herNot true at all she was continuously inclining before Ina went on her big breaks. Her numbers were starting to get fairly strong to. Ina's break really just solidified Fauna's incline
Thankfully the remaining Japanese holos are all safe.
WTF IRyShttps://x.com/irys_en/status/1863264825515901012?t=nsYLBSS_twq4plwLWx_-bA&s=19
Fucking helmite is really out here going "Gura's being a lazy bitch is actually normal" just because he doesn't like doompostingHe was great for shitting on homobeggars and nijisis but when it comes down to it, he'll shit on anyone to defend Cover it seems
Watch Ina go back to streaming regularly next year, getting the same if not higher CCV than Fauna, and all of a sudden /#/ becomes /wah2/, like Fauna never existed.
>>90639631>bibooPlease god no
>>90640011You sure don't express yourself publicly as such but your other friend sure did.
>>90639898She literally followed her already on Senz, if there was ANYONE Gura loved it (besides Ame) was Fauna. She wouldn’t stop talking about her even in members
>>90639563>2-3 good anime>rest mediocre redditslopWho made this list?
>>90640201She also followed dooby when she graduated. Collab soon, right ?
>>90639999I mean, I'd rather he died before that, but consider he didn't
>>90640186It's hilarious because around mid 2020, /#/ was saying this exact same thing about Fauna.
>>90639749You're not slick faggot
>>90640033People like him are the reason I don't feel any sympathy for his race when they were bombed by the Js.
lamy council status?
>>90640165Go archive dumpster diving for the charts of EN at that timeShe was inclining because everyone in Promise was inclining before Ina left. It wasn't until Ina left that Fauna inclined against the trend of everyone else started reclinedNo longer having constant overlap improves averages
>>90640177Good for him. All this doomposting just because Fauna doesn't want to travel is insane.
>just saw the newsFauna is running the same model as Chloe, they bailed when they've seen a bit of hardship in their career, and left their fans just like that>managementBullshit reason. When did you see Myth quit? Actually Sana quit due to "management issue" too that fucking phrase cover all sorts of things you guys are dumb if you don't think she has skeleton behind the closets she doesn't want to tell her ex-fans.
>>90640175Tbh it’s kind of funny but the Asian part isn’t needed, that’s literally anyone poor at a Buffet
>>90640177>he'll shit on anyone to defend CoverThe only thing he has done is respond to those who shit on all the other girls, sorry that you feel called out?
>>90640186
>>90640186God no what? Because you dont like her?
>>90640177hes right though, gura streamed like once a couple a months before, always drunk
>>90640335Fauna was never part of Lamy council.
>>906402412 more weeks amrite? Oh wait….
>>90640349>skeleton behind the closets
>>90639612Guess you have a guilty consience, I never mentioned any discord, I just picked a few retarded falseflags that I saw while skimming the thread and called them out.>fun discussionLol
>>90640395
notGura twitter activities is like her way of herding sheeps. “I followed _ , go check her out”.
>>90640349Sea rushing to management's defence. Again.
we are not friend
>>90640388
>>90640335Lamy is showing some worrying signs too.
>>90640450it's the era of Kitanai FuwaMoco now...
>>90640349They are in their seething phase right now. In a week you can see all of them turning into acceptance phase. Look at these posts >>90639191>>90639819Holo-antis in the making.
>Fauna has a melty over having to travel>THE COMPANY IS DYING!!See how insane you people sound?
>>90640111I'm sorry, but as someone who also has a fucking jobHe's not Advent's manager.He's EN FUCKING DIRECTOR.Also, need I remind you PROMISE was formed during his time?And management should not only pointing fingers at the goons below them, but also protect his team from upper management's retardation.If he couldn't even so that, then he failed at his job. Simple as.Speaking of ...>PicrelNice banner btw, I hope he can look at it everyday to see how much of a fucking failure his project has become.
>>90640335Lamy herself is leaving tho
In 2025, when Biboo is regularly pulling 10k+, /#/ will gaslight itself by saying "akshually we've always liked Biboo here".
I trust Mio more than I trust any EN. If she says management disagreement is just an excuse, then it is just an excuse.
>>90640488Yes, saplings are just Fauna's wallets. She got the yacht she wanted now she is quitting.
Ame and myth in general have got fucked over by management at least 10x worse than Fauna and Ame was someone who was actually responsible with creating some of the most memorable events of holoEN history. But she didn't go ahead and throw everyone under the bus like Fauna, thats how you show you love hololive not with empty words like this. Fuana could have just left this at usual "creative differences" explanation but she decided to weaponize her graduation to solidify her future. Now every en holo who are content with their place in hololive has to adress their stance
>Praised the other girls>Thanked the fans>Explained she wanted to be an idol>Explained she wanted to continue as Fauna>post tweet thanks Asagi-mama as well>Didn't mention shit about management, didn't thank her manager at allShe was really, really pissed at Cover huh
>>90640579I will never like that zoomer brain who can’t even create her own memes and just steals everything
>>90640177>He think that retard actually care about anyone other than WatameRookie mistakeNever trust a fucking Discord mod
>>90639819Without Hololive they are just boring streamers in a sea of boring streamers. The Hololive ecosystem is what makes everything special.
>>90640186Biboo cute
>>90640177for the record he is not running damage control, hes just shitting on anti idol trannies who keep trying to claim they are quitting because le idol culture
>>90640656Oh NOW that the piece of shit admits it's not because she didn't want to be an idol like he did before. Cunt.
I find it amusing that this thread hasn't noticed the nijnigger attacks across hololive talents under the guise of "saplings" that has been happening for the last few hours
>>90640608>Didn't mention shit about managementare you perhaps drunk
>>90639631nothing of this will matter at all if they dont fix whatever the fuck is happening with managment
>>90640562All I see is you continuing to rush to blame the middleman while deflecting from the very public people responsible. It's not subtle, and very much what someone looking for a scapegoat would do.
>>90640349>Skeleton behind the closets
>>90640630Ironic coming from a sapling
>>90640602It isn't a competition for who gets fucked the most. Ame and Myth are blessed compared to others in EN. Cover management has spent 4 years sabotaging Myth and Promise and it's finally working.
>/#/ and /lig/ teaming up to shit on holo managementEnemies to lovers... utter kino...
>>90640579>akshually we've always liked Biboo hereyes? did you just miss the youtube recaps or what
>>90640734She said disagreements with management but refused to thank them for everything else
>>90640725Are you one of the okbh raiders?
>>90640725make sure to call him an incel chud too
>>90640579Majority have always liked biboo here, why are you trying to set this up as some kind of gotcha.
>>90640754>EN, PROJECT DIRECTOR>Now is just "middleman"
>>90640602Just more proof that Dokibird is the one who got in her ear about leaving. Dokibird did the same thing.
>>90640792I will never join forces with a liggernigger
>>90640792no one hates holo management more than EN fans anon
>>90640608She is so possed that she has to travel, she wants to be an idol from home and host her concerts from her home and be skinwalked in japan while she sits comfortably in her homeWhat a lazy bitch
>>90640727>attacks talentNijinig>attacks CoverThat’s us retard, we have never cared about the company but instead the girls. Whatever the fuck they are doing they can do better
>>90640602And here we have another seamonkey mad that someone shit on management, trying to turn this into some kind of pissing contest in the process.
>>90640608>praise all the people she can make connection with after she reincarnated >makes the fans think the management is at fault hereSo that the fans will flock to her reincarnated account. This is basically "Becoming indie 101". Both holos and nijis had used it. Coco and Aqua said part of the reason they left was because of management too. Fauna just wanted to farm maximum fans from hololive days with this statement.
>>90640868Proof?
>>90640304But Fauna debuted in 2021...
>>90640819Maybe now that saplings are starting to leave. Before, they would always throw a tantrum every time Biboo beat Fauna.
>>90640906Fuck you
>>90640727We did nothing and just let him bait and reply to himself for hours, pretty amusing ngl.
HOLOLIVE BOARD HOLOLIVE THREAD
>>90640602AgainMyth love.
I've seen multiple posts talking about Saplings moving to notFauna, but for those staying with Holo, which are you going to switch too after Fauna leaves? Probably CC for me if I can catch her, maybe Biboo otherwise. Unless Gura actually comes back for real, but chances are low there.
>>90640608Yeah, it sucks so much that there's been a complete fucking collapse in relationship behind the scenes.
People realize this entire thing is just from Fauna being a drama queen about having to travel right?
>>90640943Never happened.
>>90640869I never brought up Cover in my post
All of SNORyS loves Fauna
>>90640958Say it to this nigga >>90639819
>>90640792Still not watching your chuubas ligger trash. hololive was always the girls not the company, I ain't watching your chuubas.
>>90640967>Fauna was my oshi>But now she has to change the model she's using>She's not my oshii anymoreYou're not a sapling, kill yourself.
>>90640972yes. Miko, Subaru, Mio and Noel all basically confirmed that. There are no issues with management.
I took the day off yesterday. I'm sure the archives are just a sea of trash, so could someone tell me how Doki's thing did? Big numbas?>>90639462Our Precious Conversations. A storytime for it just started on /a/>>>/a/273600702
>>90641054>Big numbasnope
>>90640934Cope
>>90640821Yeah, middleman between EN and the JP office, retard. You still haven't laid any blame on Kaneko or Yagoo yet. Your management defence may not be as obvious as others, but it can still be seen for what it is.
>>90641037Yeah, bro, you're not a real sapling if you don't want to watch filian and shondo collabs and hear them talk about their ex-bf and sheeeeit
>>90640891The only truth out of pile of shits.
>>90641037Im not following her indie if she actually uses her pink loli model
>>90640507she isn't>>90640565stopping roommate shit is the opposite of "bad signs" dumb fuckplus she literally explained why she did it - as people who watch her would expect - because of her cancer scare.She is fully committed to hololive and said several times that she wants to be in hololive for a long time. She never changed that stance.Doomposting about Lamy is the most retarded shit and proof that you faggots never watched her in the first place.
>>90640767It isn't, but there is huge dissonance between talking about how much she loves her branchmates and how kind, sweet and awesome they are and also talking about how she is not leaving because she doesnt want to be there. What kind of implication is that ? What the fuck the rest of the EN supposed to do after that explanation ?
>>90640967I'm just gonna be a tourist and only watch big streams. I barely watched any other girls solo streams after Advent debuted. I'll stick with Fauna wherever she goes.
>>90641018>say it to EnnacuckWhy would you reply?
>>90637296>>90637509We hate kiara
>>90641109>I don't trust Fauna to manage her content without Cover overseeing it You're not a sapling.
>>90641054it got like 7k. was pretty bad, the chuubas weren't having fun getting stomped by pros and were literally uninstalling apex the second the final game ended. Doki ended up running damage control and apologizing for it afterwards.
>>90640727if you're talking about the retard attacking the girls, yeah of courseif you're talking about ppl shitting on Cover please go kys.. i always hated their retarded decisions but i didnt mind because i thought it wouldnt affect the girls, hell the TCG being a success made me believe that things would get even better and less annoying for the girls since they would finally understand how to make money without bothering them..
>>90641042Holo JP and expecting JP talents to stand up to boss when Japanese culture is to not rock the boat. Is up to EN fans to get shit done like always.
>>90641037>Followed the character of Fauna>Character is retired>You're not allowed to switchAre flesh idol fans expected to follow their when they graduate and do JAV?
I just want to let you guys on a little secretNerissa is also planning to graduate
>>90641138This. All of the remaining Japanese members are completely safe.
>>90640177Allies becoming enemies, even /our/ champion...
>>90640792liggers want to destroy hololive and do not understand the difference between cover and hololive
>>90640602Sensible opinion. Fauna should've just shut the fuck up.
>>90641189oh no... anyway
>>90640972Whores don't quit when there are still money on the table. The only time a whore quits is when the pimp asks her to.>>90641124True that.
>>90640177visertranny...
>>90641186If your Idol graduate and move to another group, or go solo, yes.Fauna isn't becoming a camwhore, she's going to do the same thing she's currently doing
>>90641168Her content outside of Holo has always been incredibly underwhelming. Oh, and the NTR asmr shit, can't forget about that.
>>90640177he is correct though?
>>90640725you might be a retard, anon.
>not fauna is following not pippa was fauna secretly a dramafag
>>90641054>I hate the news>I hate the posts I am seeing right now>I am going to /a/ to copeGo ahead buddy, we know this is hard on you, assuming you don't already see the red flag when she said "ure nt ma fren".
>>90641281except with male vtubers like Arkhand
I think I'll skip the NY countdown this year.
Threadshitters are not sending their best kek
>>90641329>secretly
>>90640349ESL = opinion discarded
>>90641037Everything will always boil down to atmosphere, content and attitude etc. If things change and people don't like it then there is no obligation to force themselves to stick around, likewise if things keep going as if nothing has happened people are likely to have no issues.
>>90641243ITS JUST A DEEPFAKE DELETE THIS
>>90641350Is there even gonna be one
>>90640608>She was really, really pissed at Cover huhfaumei orisong DOKO
>>90641176How incredibly hard is it to just stick to my original point of the people attacking the girls? Of course they are attacking the company as well, some with good reasons.
>>90640891This is the only explanation. She didn't give any concrete reason. She knew it is time to jump ship before it sinks. She never had any loyalty to cover and her fans.>>90641054>I'm_coping.jpgRORURUMAO
>>90640177she has never cared much for streaming.
>>90641350But you already graduated Ame...
>>90641199indeed it doesn't really seem like there are a lot of members left in JP that are in danger on immediate graduation.. BUTthere are concerns for people like korone, choco, haachama or even iroha (who 100% doesn't want to graduate but her health is AWFUL) plus somebody like shion who's probably graduating in the end of the next year unless her mentality improves.A lot of holos said they are not leaving - miko, suisei, botan, lamy, noel, marine, pekora, ayame, lap, matsuri etcPretty much ALL of them are defending management one way or another
>>90641243>Saplings when this post
Pointing fingers at management is myopic. Fauna is 50% of the equation here and should be held accountable.
>>90641189proof
>>90641328Fuck you and him for peddling the same anti bullshit everyone else did
man globie has sex designs
>>90641528Mint?
>>90641243ew
>>90640543Spineless faggots. You wanna hear a joke>What colors are saplings?Have you look at their colors? They are green!No the real answer is that their barks are going to grow up and be brwn. Saplings act like that too.
>>90639462if you're fine with chinkshit then that time i was blackmailed by the class's green tea bitch is pretty good yuri, plus it's started up a followup/sequel run a month or two back that's been pretty solid so far
>>90641528Why does she look like mouse?
>>90641432sorry being angry makes me go full retard
>>90641550Wasn't this before she made her statement?
>>90639819
>>90638152
>>90641555
>>90641615>It doesn't matter that he lied about her before she made a statement
>>90637113>saplingschizo wonHOLY SHIT
>>90641601You might need to get glasses
>>90641541numbers in my numbers thread??
>>90641637
>>90641656It was a valid inference to make beforehand, which was proven wrong, why are you arguing with us instead of Helmite?
>>90641677IM is the only queen here.
>>90641550How's doctor chumbud reacting to this shitshow? I haven't seen him in a while.
>>90641243just a vulgar whore, Fauna should be worshiping cover for making her into a household name instead she is trying to destroy the house, same with gura btw.
>>90641541Mio already confirmed that Fauna is at fault.
>>90641677Awful model.
>>90641719>It was a valid inference to make beforehand>inferenceHe literally went "UM YOU SHOULD KNOW IF YOU'RE A FAN". That's not an inference he's stating it like it's a fact. He's a fucking faggot.
>>90640967all things considered, Mori, she sticks to what she says and seems to be trucking along while giving lots of opportunities to both cheer for her and chill
>>90641105Again, upper management HAS been retarded, we knew that since forever. That still doesn't change.For him to NOT being able to deal with it despite being able to before, THAT was on his part. There's no excuse
Apparently DS3 is a comfort game
>>90640967
>>90641243OH NO NO NO NO NO
>>90638305aaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeee1k it's over
>>90641780Why are you arguing with us? You are clearly upset with him but for some reason you want us to answer for him.
>>90641677Why?
>>90640349>and left their fans just like thatI'm sure it never registered in their brain when they were making that decision after everything that happened with NotAme, NotAqua and NotSelen. They thought fans will follow them no matter what.
>>90641816Seems like a fresh run
>>90641890>. They thought fans will follow them no matter what....but a good chunk of them did?
>she's going to do the same thing now that she'll average 7k versus when she was a low 3view shitterRetard.
>>90641243I'm going to kms fuck
>>90641637>>90641555Thats just Beni with cat ears
>>90641677Looks pink to me
>>90641928Nameless King in the thumbnail
>>90641765qrd?
>if Phase Connect ever goes public, I'm gonna leavehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qcBLkShrgM
>>90641938she's already collabed with arkhand again, retardliterally 2 weeks ago
>>90641964Smaller boobs and spanish beni
>>90641802You continue to ignore that the issues are company-wide. You are attempting to throw someone under the bus to save the top brass.
>>90640967Im already membered to GG. I’ll probbly transfer my fauna membership to CC if notFauna does homoshit
>>90638416Why would Nerissa care about Biboo moving to Japan? It's not like they visited each other in burger land and Biboo is keeping her stream times and sleep schedule the same.
>>90640175>4 (Four) meatpost in a row on the same day as the vegan's graduation announcementDamn, does IRyS still carry the grudge from the time Fauna made her look for a vegan restaurant and had a meatless meal in Kyoto years ago?
>>90642056Funnily enough they will probably never grow big enough to warrant it.
>>90642029"Disagreements with management" are nothing more than an excuse for laziness. Mio confirmed that there are no issues whatsoever with management and Miko, Subaru and Noel said basically the same thing.
>>90641834>Kiara
>>90641243since she's going back to this account instead of rebranding with a new account I'm going to assume this will be the norm
>>90641211chu
>>90642121but muh grifting oshi was done wrong by them!!!
You needed to make your samefagging less obvious
>>90641890>NIJISEETHEand>COPLINGSSEETHE>NotAmeNot quitting>NotAquaShe is losing numbers by days, probably will get her average ~ 4 to 5k higher than notCoco in the end>notSelenThis is the only valid point, and you wouldn't like the reason why it is valid. She mingles with males. Her non tournament streams are not better than when she was in niji, and she doesn't really have much to begin with compared to hololive. For Fauna, she can go down the ASMR route like she did before, with more fans than before of course. You would hope that she would stream alone all the time because there bound to be dramas in the indie scene.
>>90641699
grifting lolnot even trying to subtle anymore are you
Who do you trust here?>Miko>Subaru>Mio>Noelor>Fauna
>>90642056>Her oshiI thought that was fucking watameThey can't even lie right
>>90642299Fauna
>>90642074Do you freak out when DuDul is basically the creative director of Gura Inc?
* FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *>12/01 TALLY:117,359: Fauna (Hololive) | Important Announcement (the serious kind)13,126: Gigi (Hololive) | Keywe w/ Cecilia10,815: Elizabeth (Hololive) | Unarchived Chill Times7,496: Elizabeth (Hololive) | Kara-Rewind7,414: Raora (Hololive) | Monster Hunter World>EN GOLDS FOR DECEMBER 20241) Fauna (Hololive) - 117,359 - Important announcement (the serious kind)>PER COMPANY1x: Hololive>PER STREAMER1x: Fauna>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)5p: Fauna3p: Gigi1p: Elizabeth
>>90641737Complete radio silenceLike his oshi
>>90642121>jpOk
>>90642303Aqua too.https://x.com/pipkinpippa/status/1820858223278363115
>>90642121Others have said there are issues though, almost like it's a nuanced situation.
>>90642277She's Myth so yeah.
>>90642111All it takes is a couple of collabs with Leaf, Dooby, Senz and Sachi to create a new box and influx of the majority of ENvtubing fans to switch corpos
>>90642332December tally gonna be a wall of Fauna streams
>>90642408Quitting and throwing management under the bus seems to lack any nuance.
>>90636922I saw this post in an older thread and I think this is what makes the most sense from what we know of Cover's internal workings.
QRD on the Phase yab?
>still samefagging
This is why you should always stick with Japanese vtubers.
>>90642299I can trust Miko, Subaru, Mio, and Noel to give their subjective opinion stemming from personal experience with Japanese management. I can trust Fauna to give her subjective opinion stemming from personal experience with English management.
>>90642536>still cryingPoint out the samefags, whiny little bitch.
>>90642056>>90642303>>90642386lmao griftin plappa gonna grift
>>90638416Nerissa's family is her support group.
>fauna announces graduation>IRyS posting a lot of meatRRATS???????
i hereby declare Nene as the protagonist of Hololive.
You realize Hololive is a unity corpo now, right?
>>90642558IKR
>>90642519growing stronger every day
>>90642498thats dumb because we all know fauna's manager was literally useless and she basically had no homework besides the obligatory FES/BD/musical stuff.
Why do a month of streams instead of just 2 weeks and leave
>>90642640why was this post deleted?
>>90642498We literally have stories about Marine’s manager refusing to even tell her about things because they know she’ll agree to do everything she’s offered with 0 thought for her health
>he is coping until he can only write gibberish to distract from the topic at handsHe must be shaking right now knowing his "oshi" never treated him as a person.
>>90642640BASED BASED BASED
>>90640967When NotFauna isn't streaming I'll mostly still watch CC, Ina, and Biboo. Only streams that won't ruin my sleep schedule. Which I won't do anymore. have to be VoDs for the others
>>90642634Not you. You're still a 3view shitter.
>>90642498It's a thing that may have happened, but it doesn't strike me as lining up with this for the ones who are going. Disagreements like that have a pretty clear end point. Even if you hate the work, you still have to do it with the contracts and shit, and then when it's over, it's over, you don't have to sign up for it again.That's not what this was.
did the antis really won tho? what lies beyond the horizon for you? now that your enemy is defeated what is there to look for in life?
SOONhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KHoMGy67Wohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KHoMGy67Wohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KHoMGy67Wo
>>90642663I guess sapjanny will be sticking around for one more month
>faunaschizo samefagging
>>90642747Good
>my post "RUMAO" got deletedwtf?
stupid sapkeks and their stupid punchable facesthey all deserved this and had it coming
>>90642747anon, he replied that long before the post was hit, the nigga is some kind of bot or a retard
>>90642811
>>90642790He won an overwhelming victory, we are all living in his world
Kiara won
Sudden 3am kino
>>90642498It doesn't make sense for Fauna. Where are the sponsorships? Where are the con attendances, the voice packs, the shill streams?
>>90642498Suisei said way back in 2020 that this is exactly what happened to her and that it was painful to learn to say no to things she'd have killed to get to participate in just a year before. Nene's breakdown last year also resulted from something similar per her own words.
>>90642862who's currently the strongest among them 4? numberwise?
>>90642721nothing, they have nothing else but their schizophrenic minds
>when you realize it was all kayfabe and they didn't actually care bout collabing with men it was just a stipulation of the contract
>>90637356Ehhh it depends.Aqua for example got that level of fan transfer because she was so fucking dedicated in the lead-up to her graduation.> streamed every single day in the leadup to announcing it> streamed every day afterwards till graduation> absolutely glorious ending with Akupeko leading into the Graduation stream> released unlimited signed merch> actually signed all of it, keeping the promise.> still kept in touch with holo friends, even went out with them afterwards> kept the characters separate after indie debut (barring the AI debacle) and told off fags who were trying to blend the twoBasically the amount of dedicated Fauna shows to her fans in the coming month will determine how many of them follow her over.
>>90642929Chihaya, both in ccv and mariokart points
Hololive only grow stronger >:3
Too soon buddy, I caught the undeleted ones>>90642640>>90642663>>90642685Someone caught it 4K trying to be me.>pretend to be me>pretend that his post get deleted>just to score a win against "saplingschizos"Come here to papa. It seems like you are crying a lot. I will never abandon you, like my Lord, unlike your Fauna.
>>90642498I don't think it's that because I have never seen Fauna take on more than she thinks she can handle. The rrat about her being fed up about having to go to Japan for recordings multiple times a year feels more realistic.
>>90642976> amount of *dedication
>>90642947don't make me tap the sign
>>90642882It doesn't make sense because it's cleat not what happened. It's just an attempt to slide blame from management to the talents by making it look like the talents have all the agency in regards to whatever the problem is.
>>90643022Wasnt talk of her using ame's 3D for recording recently? Or was that just fanfiction?
>>90642947JP would never
>>90637342depends on what her parents want her to do after she gets a degreeit's usually some "normal" job
>>90642086>company-wide.I have YET to see any other girls call it quitNot even Kiara, and she's the #1 ball buster when it comes to management
/#/ is schizo arena
Looks like this hurt you deeply because you know I'm right >>90642971You cannot erase this board's sentiment by abusing your deletion powers.
>>90643022Even then she plainly said she didn't leave because she disliked the idol stuff or the "being in Hololive" stuff.I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that whatever the issue is now, was not something that existed at the start of the year.
>>90643001>samefagging faggot calling other samefagging>get caughtThis is not even how the schizo always post. Sapkeks are really mental now that the whore is gone.
>>90642450none of those are going to watch your whores phasecucks
>>90642299Not you.
rip uuu2
>>90643185>ripSchizos have always been retarded like this
>>90643120>You cannot erase this board's sentiment by abusing your deletion powers.That sounds so gay. Stop pretending to be me before you burst an artery in your brain.
saplings always running damage control to shit on the company that created herif they say to travel to japan then she must travel to japan
>>90643099Yeah it's really strange. This bias is not a good look for the moderation team, seriously.
>>90643111How many JPs need to leave before you stop trying to pin this a a purely EN issue?
>>90642721Remember how this thread laughing at ennacuck the bot nigger? Yeah ... Imagine that
>>90643099looks to me like he's hurting itself in its confusionI would be mindbroken too if my oshi announces her graduation out of nowhere
>>90643130She could be fine with the idol stuff in theory but still get tired of the travel and extended stays in Japan.
>>90643223Kiara won
>seething about getting deleted
>>90643277
>>90640394>>90641304>>90641451Comparing Gura's pre-holo activity with Gura current-day as if it's a reasonable comparison is practically anti behavior. Gura pre-holo had fucking nothing except alleged substance abuse and a toxic community, what the fuck do you expect to get from that. She's now the most-subscribed vtuber in the world and a talent managed by the biggest corpo in town. When Gura joined Hololive, she was motivated, she had goals, she had ideas, she was happy to stream and she kept up a regular schedule for a decent amount of time. After YEARS of getting her ideas shut down, getting her projects delayed, getting her 3D lives butchered, and regular casual snide remarks from management behind the scenes, they've broken her down to the level she was at pre-holo. And you think this is nothing to be worried about?
>>90643099Unicorn jannies are a fucking blight to this board istg
>>9064325610
how the turn tables
Gura should stream to distract everyone
>>90643296>deleting posts that hurt your feelings instead of actual schizoposting and roommateposting
>Fauna vs MumeiKill yourself
>>90637663Not really.Things are still in pic rel phase.Remember, nijinigs were dooming and glooming about this back when Coco left as well.>>8445392 >>11875343
>>90643313Did Helmite molest you or something? Is that why you are urging everyone to argue in his stead?
>>90643337A unicorn janny would let the evidence be presented as a warning to other unicorns. This guy is just a shill.
these discord raiders are not subtle at all
Ban the Panko cuck janny
>>90643313and yet CC has done way more then she has ever did in the fraction of the timeWhat fucking point are you trying to make?
It's up to CC to save HoloEN now.
>>90643272But she said what she said, you know what I mean?She didn't say she didn't think she could handle the strain of it. If she felt that way, she could say that. Chloe said that. So it isn't like they're preventing her from saying that was the issue if it was.She said "disagreement with management." That's different. And likely a more recent change than we may understand. At the very least, it was probably a change after Justice, not before, if I were to guess.
>>90643418
>>90643439CC hates corpos and you should too!
>>90643430>>90643439Siscord this is sad.
>>90643439>JusticeLMAO
>>90640177I mean...he's not wrong
