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Man I love Fauna
So that it hololive is just done?
>>90681895No, we can hope they renegotiate and convince her to stay and put out a statement detailing exactly how they fixed the problem.But, hey, they'd rather leave us in the dark rather than explain why they drove off one of their talents and alienated a bunch of extremely loyal fans.
Love forever
Now that the dust has settled, is cover dumb as fuck or is Fauna being unreasonable?
I hope Fauna tells her real thoughts about her time at Holo like Ame did just after redebuting
Honestly I'm glad Fauna is cutting ties with the Bae-typesThough it feels like there's been something weird between them for a while really
Im not coping
>>90682073No, but they're going to suffer some really bad bruises soon. Maybe a broken bone.Everyone better be praying you don't see another graduation because this feels like the cusp of a flood of them.
https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1863402925256822934https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1863402925256822934https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1863402925256822934YEAHHHHHH!
Most of this thread seems to be made up of kids or neets who never felt like switching jobs just because they were tired of the current one or wanted to try something new.
Shitting on the girls is badShitting on management is fineIf you cannot abide by this you're gutter trash and need to stop eating pagpag
>>90682123both
>>90682123little bit of column A, little bit of column B
>>90682123>>90682184>>90682194What could she possibly have on her side to be "unreasonable" about?Remember, headcanon isn't reality.
>Hololive will die after Coco's graduation!>Hololive will die after Rushia's termination!>Hololive will die after Aqua's graduation!>Hololive will die after Fauna's graduation!And yet, it keeps thriving.Hololive will never die baby.
>>906821663k likes lots of positive feedback, we are so back nijibros
>>90682168Fauna literally said she didn't want to leave though. You have a poor attention span, probably because your brain is rotted by the internet, so you can't even comprehend a less than 5 minute graduation announcement.
https://x.com/shiorinovella/status/1863415528523489515
>>90682168If I could leave my job yet they would still pay me money for free to use my likeness then I would gladly accept that free money, not refuse and cut ties completely.
>>90681385will ID get her ass for posting the names of the ID girls? I'm pretty sure she's the first one who dared to do that
>>90682123Yes probably
>>90682168Yeah, yeah Helmite, go continue your Hyperwar with Ernoul
>>90682179No one would have to shit on the girls if they contributed to my narrative against Cover.
>>90682293The pervious poster was just a liar.
>>90682249>speculate reasons without speculatingare you genuinely brain damaged
EN numbers looking pretty good for their standard without fauna. Why the doom posting?
>>90682168It's also full of seamonkeys like (you) that will say the most absurd shit just to absolve management of blame
We like Hololive here. Go back.
If my understanding of this whole affiliate bullshit is correct. Affiliate is a graduation, but in attempt to make shit less depressing and to confuse people they change the wording.I'm only curious why some girls choose to become an affiliate instead of graduating?
>>90681860They literally answered that already. Their response was "emphasize all the perks of being a Holo", so in their eyes if you're not interested in the perks then they're not going to change how the company works just for you.
>>90682249What is so bad management wise for her to the point of completely quitting? What was she being forced to do that the other girls have no problem doing?
>>90682249That rrat is as valid as the 50 other ones that have been spun up today. Everything discussed since the announcement is headcanon, no one has any proof.
>>90682179Am i supposed to be mad shiori and bae are still happy in hololive
>>90682249simply just a poor work ethic and resistance to any kind of change
>>90682401Oh, so you have nothing? Great, good, glad we cleared that up, trash.
>>90682168i think her reasons are a bit more complicated than that anon
>>90682425
>>90682436Free money. I would take the deal too, not shitting on them.
Can't even bring myself to watch Biboo anymore, my usual #2, Fauna leaving might really break the curse Hololive has over me.
>>90682485>doubling downbrain damage it is
>>90682304Not if the terms of that involved sometimes going to Japan.
>>90682320wait did the dumbass post Reine's stuff? If yes then I hope the fucktard gets railed
>>90682466Great question. Why would someone walk away from a million dollar job (supposedly)?
Today, I will remind them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3IrMM0jc9M
>>90682444Fauna said she didn't want to leave, didn't mind singing dancing and idol work, but was leaving due to disagreement with management.This is clearly a problem and Cover needs to understand what exactly the nature of this disagreement was and if it was really worth losing their second most popular EN streamer.
>>90682553Retarded jungle monkey
>>90682478
10K DOOOOOOOORYA
>>90682444They should because losing Fauna is the single biggest blow to the company they've had since losing Coco.
Raid baby
This may not be the sole reason for the management discontent, but from what has been said it seems like Cover has poor backend systems to support both management and talent. It would explain the great variance between different managers. Usually good systems, like proper documentation in a shared system or shared knowledgebase would reduce this variance since everyone would follow the same processes. This also helps with accountability as you would normally have higher up managers review the lower ranked on their performance.
>>90682563Nowhere is it implied that affiliates actually have to do anything.
>>906825884thShe's behind Mori and FWMC
>>90682487You don't know her reasons any more than I do.
>>90682553>not even the first time Cover has mismanaged a talent>or the secondk, thanks for your inputdidn't answer the question thoughwhat do you think Fauna is being unreasonable about?
>>90682297Shiori is amazing. I don't care what anybody says.
>>90682466I think a big reason was having to go to Japan. Kiara thinks they could skip even FES if they wanted too, but I'm not sure Fauna could be that assertive.
>>90682263isn't this worrying though? If Coco, Rushia, Aqua, Ame and now Fauna and Chloe are expendable... Won't the company abuse this power?
If the meltdown over Fauna is this bad, how bad is it gonna be for Gura?
>>90682640>Moriisn't a streamer>FWMCcan't even get 10k consistently while Fauna is consistently Subaru-tier
>>90682574
>>90682640I said streamer. Mori and FWMC don't get Fauna streaming numbers. You're talking about holistic popularity.Their most popular streamer after Fauna is probably Biboo, I don't have the exact tables in front of me but I'm pretty sure.
>>90682602meant for >>90682485
>>90682123Both. It's the manager not getting fired and Fauna being fed up with that
Well biboo saved that collab numbers, good job numbers farmer
>>90682685You didn't choose the right oshi.
>>90682168>the reason for my graduation is disagreement with management>goes on to list that she's not unhappy with anything else and wants to continue doing the things she's already doing>wanted to try something new
>>90682076NTA that would be the dream but it's not going to happen based on how the other girls are reacting. Feels like management gave up
>>90682485https://litter.catbox.moe/8dt52b.ogg
>>90682702Probably not as bad to be honest. Fauna came out of nowhere right after Chloe's announcement which is a big reason why it hit so hard. I love Gura but everybody expects it at this point and she hasn't really been actively streaming in like 2 years now.
>>90682263
>>90682702its gonna be great, and than mumei right after too
>>90682681Thats my biggest assumption as well, meaning she hated it that much, kinda weird and extreme if you ask me though.
>>90682436The main reason is to keep the IP profitable even after graduation. It is also made vague on purpose so the fans don't feel as bad as they would with a full graduation.
>girls have 3am meetings>"no management is fine"lol?lmao?
Apparently there's a retard leaking on X every Hololive EN member PL(except justice) and there's also some members who just got their real name doxxed. No link for obvious reason.
raora is more esl than id
>>90682620I wonder how many of the upper management can speak English, because not being able to take direct feedback from the talents about their direct managers seems like a pretty big flaw.
>>90682528you will be here in 2 weeks kek after her final stream, tho probably as a lemon ig
>>90682436The only downside of not taking the affiliate route is that you can't join other corpo
>>90682702Not really, i will be celebrating (good)
/#/ I am unable to have opinions of my own, what do I think about all of the happenings recently?
>>90682263JPs have several dozen 5views keeping the branch alive. EN just lost its 2nd biggest hitter and its 1st biggest is basically dead, and no longer have any consistent 5views, plus the EN fanbase aren't massive bootlickers.
Oh, I didn't even notice Shiori streamed.
>>90682702>Gura and mumei don't stream >Fauna doesThere's a difference anon
>>90682864yeah, he's an avid NijiEN fan
>>90682862Just uproot your life for your job and move to Japan when you don't speak any Japanese bro
>>90682702Real bad if she comes out and says management sucks like Fauna did.
>>90682702depends on how she presents itI think worst case scenario will be if she doesn't even do a goodbye announcement herself and it's just a poof, cover announcement
>>90682886FAUNA JOINING VSHOJO CONFIRMED
>>90682702Gura will do her best to butter up the company and not hurt it with rumors because she's also a bootlicker. She won't even give a reason for graduating.
>>90682702It's pretty bad. Even if you don't believe her, Cover has no one to replace her.
without fauna the branches average will plummet..
>>90682620Yeah, feels like a case of grew too quickly without taking a step back and performing a self-review. Hopefully they'll do that, and they'll ask the talents first and foremost, and directly as well, no intermediaries, and listen to any complaints that they may have even if only one or two talents share the complaint. I don't mean they should 100% do what the talents demand, but they should at least have a dialogue about it. I can't imagine not doing a review with how the year has been.
>>90682436Affiliate is literally a response to that investor after Rushia got fired about how investors wanted to keep selling merch of retired IPs. Cover found a way to do it that wouldn't piss off fans.
>>90682702You're about to find out in the next two weeks. They be cooking in their private accounts.
>>90682792Yeah, the ones that hurt the most are the ones that come out of nowhere. it's going to hurt financially but as long as Gura is diplomatic about it, HoloEN will continue to move forward.
>>90682842All of Fauna's issues in the past year can literally be traced to the Japan trip, it was the beginning of the end.
>>90682263Yummy yagoo’s cock
>>90682872as long as she doesn't take the Dooby route of collabing with the most insufferable whores possible right out the gate then yeah I will be
>>90682914I think you should think about Chiyaya's thighs, then say the first word that comes to mind.
>>90682939What's sad is this is what Cover really thought would happen.
>>90682923EN fans are shits. Good riddance.
>literally every girl are fine with the change>even bae confirmed that moom is okayIs fauna fighting this battle alone?
>>90682914You hate Hololive but if your oshi is a remaining Holo, you have no choice but to keep supporting it. In a way, Hololive is like ISIS.
>>90682870Yeah but her accent is actually cute.
>>90683037Eh, she most likely will, and I'll just ignore those streams unless I'm desperate for her voice in which case I'll just watch all her streams anyway despite hating those grifting whores.
>company gives you 5 new cute girls>still complain about old and boring ones leavingyou guys need to evolve
>>90682977yeah gura is the vtuber mascot for the rest of the world. japan has pekora/marine/korone/etc.but gura leaving is like mickey mouse leaving disney.
>>90682702I don't know why fags are saying it won't be as bad, it'll definitely be even worse especially because it'll be in conjunction with the meltdown over Fauna.
DU BOIShttps://x.com/hololive_En/status/1863417810401268073
>Fauna graduates>Rrats explode hitting every holo fandom>Every holo has to tardwrangle their chat and kill multiple rrats>Intense fear of holo girls leaving like FaunaWhy can't management just issue a statement that they fucked up? They're having their talents tardwrangle for management's mess. Hate management, take a bow for fucking up
>>90683086We'll find out if it was just empty corporate talk, because Fauna wasn't the only one reactivating RM accounts.
>>90683060I don't want to think about any flopglop
>>90682620Who needs good back end support for hololive. We need cover to diversify it's business now! Debut Flowglow, promote muh boys and add more employees to holoEarth
>>90682263i mean, it's basically "dying", they are changing
>>90682766thinking you can choose oshi means you never found a real oshi
>>90682862>Kiara told management to fuck off and do meetings at a time convenient for her>they did itIt's that easy, the girls don't have to take management's shit if they don't want to
>>90682886Been thinking about this. We know that VShojo basically poached Kuro (as retarded as that was), is it possible they could have poached Fauna?
>>90682871That is where good systems would help greatly. If everything is properly documented in a shared system, you can review things especially if flagged as urgent. Nowadays text can quickly be translated and doesn't need a swath of translators doing things in-person.
>>90683149oh yea, that will surely cheer people up
>>90683106Unfortunately I'm not part of the "new audience" they are seeking.
>>90682436Royalties
>>90683002>diplomaticAfter all the instances of management screwing her over? Screw that. She should go full scorched earth.
>>90683157Well, if Fauna's accusation has weight, they could lie, then get called out later and potentially tank all of EN, or they could tell the truth, and POSSIBLY tank EN....So stock-holders are demanding silence instead. They public now, so they are fucked.
Well if you want some news from the NijiEN side of camp, Millie released her schedule and did not mention Petra's birthday, but did mention Maria's birthday which is on the same week. Finana similarly mentioned Maria's birthday in Membership but did not mention Petra's.Good chance that Petra may be getting terminated?
>>90683086>works on my machine
>>90683006kek, basically sums up this thread currently.
You guys know that Hololive's main market is JP, right? Even if there's a hit in EN, JP is as strong as ever
>>90682249I feel like if there was anything damningly bad on Cover's end, the recent graduates would've given some indication, or maybe Kson would be rambling about sources say or something, but they've all been utterly mute on the topic.My best rrat is that there was a pivot on the backend that created a lot of opportunities for the majority of the girls, but also closed off some opportunities for the minority. I'd guess it has less to do with investors being pissy, and more to do with Cover dealing with more Japanese big corpos, and those corpos are the ones insisting on drastically more JP corpo autism than Cover ever did. So the ones dropping out are the ones who can't or don't want to deal with that corpo autism, which unfortunately in EN means the two whitest girls bailed out. Inversely, this would also explain why so many of them suddenly started planning moves to Japan, and arguably why the most productive ENs are the ones with the best JP language skills and/or experience dealing with JP corpo autism.
>>90683198>it didn't stickI guess.
>>90683106
>>90683280Hasn't Petra been gone for months? She's just waiting out her contract to graduate, that's pretty obvious, anyone even in /nijiEN/ would tell you that.
>>90683166Aside from Gura's shitposting she kind of was. Who else?
>>906831065 new cute girls> niko : 268k> chihaya : 163k> vivi : 138k> su : 119k> total : 801kleaving> mel : 862k> aqua : 2.2M> ame : 1.8M> chloe : 1.3M> total : 6.1M
>>90683280Anon, I don't think any of the jp speaking nijiEN members are getting terminated.Furthermore, why would any of them get terminated? Niji doesn't terminate for being a shitter
>>90683227blackrock chads love this
>>90682864>ISREAL>12K FUCKING LIKESYeah just shut down the EN branch. I'm sure the EN girls are nice, but we can't risk having these faggots running around.
>>90683037She 100% will. Fauna is one of the only ENs who talks fairly regularly about watching other streamers, she will slot right into that.
>>90683311JP market is saturated. The only way for massive growth is outside the market.
So with HoloEN right now, the entire EN scene seems pretty grim
>>90683325>words words words>notice "Kson"tl;dr
kek>>90678779
>>90683252Holo has grovelled over the years for fucking up, this shouldn't be any different, they have a few days to respond but I'm very unhappy with how they made such a mess. Speaking the truth and admitting they fucked up made them stand out as a good corpo. Time will tell how they handle this
>>90683385
Crazy how my oshi is still the cutest girl in all of vtubing
>>90683149just what i needed, more homo retardation, giving me hope for the future!
>>90683198I guess Kiara loves arguing. I imagine it gets too much if you still have to scream at management for the dumbest shit that they should already know four years down the line.
Gura just tweeted check twitter
>>90683392>I don't think any of the jp speaking nijiEN members are getting terminated.Ironic that you say that when the first termination was their most JP member at the time (Yugo), and the second termination was another JP-adjacent member (Zaion).
>>90683385>>90669358
>>90683252What exactly is Fauna's accusation? All we've got is disagreement with management, nothing specific.
>>90683457But she's actually sick
>>90683106DEV_IS isn't Hololive for me. I don't care how much the other girls try to include them, they feel like a spin-off.
Why does it feel like fans of non-Hololive corpos and indies are ganging up on Hololive? This is a massive attack both within and without
>>90683404To be clear I'm specifically referring to like, Filian types.Don't think I've ever heard her mention herIf she wants to do a stream with Lilypichu or Mint I really don't care.
Roboco will outlast all of EN
>>90683509It's almost like Cover should release the NDA and let the concerns be addressed, huh?
Why do these faggots do this? These drama shills are the worst thing to happen to vtubing. They just stoke the flames of discontent.
>>90683227>>90683344>One runt defines the whole gen
>>90683157It's Monday NOW. They might be writing up a statement.I can't imagine what made them release the announcement on a Sunday, but it might be that they didn't expect the backlash to be this strong.Which... why not? Back to back graduations?
>>90683252>Fauna's accusation>accusationFucking hell. They're just saying shit now.
>>90682992You know they won't, Omega was free to reign with no pushback until Gura herself complained. Even then they only took out the head but not the people that forms management.
>>90683421Everyone who couldn't deal with JP corpo autism bailed out. Not Cover's autism, the JP companies that they're working with.
>>90683509Read between the lines, she said she loved everything about the job and wanted to stay. If she's leaving over disagreements with management it means they wanted her to leave and she disagreed.
>>90683587CCGG is the one thing saving justice. Hope nothing happens to them.
>>906834572 things faggot1. She never went inactive on her roommate account so she didn't "reactivate"2. She was talking about actually being sick, lmaoShitposting loser.
>>90683574Boy the chat on her first stream back is gonna be so shit lmao
>>90683603They sure are retarded for not anticipating this much anger
>>90683574You've been fucking warned so many times that this would happen, but we let them off easy since they were focused on NijiEN.
>>90683227>shit from the early 90sDo you even check the image you post?
>>90683647No, she was blunt. "I'm leaving because of management." That's not ambiguous.
>>90683421corpos wants a piece of cover's cock but that comes with more retarded corpo nip retardation so some girls are meh or ok with it and others just dont want to deal with it
>>90683470your oshi needs a good pounding
>>90683495Just depressed RTs after the fact
>>90683587You said 5 cute girls and I simply refuted that, pick your words better next time retard
Why there's a tweet trending doxing holos' RM and some real names? do they know that even some holos dont want to relate their shit with their RMs?
>>90683190That is the funny part. A good backend system with everything being documented allows you to start automating shit. This means you can eventually drop 70% of staff or offshore easy Tier1 stuff to places like the Phillipines.
>>90683389old subs>fake and gay>already left the hobby and just too lazy to unsub>don't care about hololive or vtubersnew subs>on the edge of vtubing>building the future right now>interested in the current moment
>>90683198I mean just look at Towa, the master of killing the managerAs long as you assertive enough, you can deal with management shit unfortunately Hololive full of doormats
>>90683689Yes, management forced her out. That's the accusation and Cover needs to address it.
>join hololive to establish an audience >bail knowing that your audience will follow you regardless and keep all the profits to yourselfWill this be the new meta going forward? Do you think Cover knows that they're effectively doing charity work for their ex-talents by letting them go?
>>90683574This fucking faggot.
>>90683657>it doesn't countlollmao
>>90683683So if someone was found to be a serial killer in the 90s, it's wrong to arrest them in the current year? What the actual fuck is this logic? There's a time decay on coalburning now?
>>90683623they went through 4 grads in recent times, this isn't like the omega case you know
>>90683746Who has the highest manager kill count? Lamy has 3 that I know of
>>90683086I will never trust homo collabers especially with Fauna graduating. They knew it was a job and they did it anyway while shitting on their fans.
>>90683709jfc GG with the league..
>>90683457This one is actually and genuinely sick. She was already talking about her nephews and nieces coming over with all kind of flu symthoms
>>90683574>>90683665Ngl i kinda hope Fauna takes like a 2-3 month break before she starts back up so a bit of the retards sink back into the clay first.
>>90682123>Kiara thinks they could skip even FES if they wanted too,Shiori straight up said that no idol activities are forced and she could skip anything she wanted to
>>90683504sigh...>KroniiNever went inactive and has always posted pretty frequently on her roommate>IRySNever went inactive on her roommate and has always popped up from time to time to post. She has also been verified in the past and it's a confirmed gifted blue check>MumeiAgain, has never been inactive on her roommate and has consistently posted stuff on it>BaeYou are going to have to post this one. I haven't seen it
>>90683541DEV_IS is hololive in everything but name. Regloss girls didn't even know what the fuck DEV_IS and thought they were applying for JP7.
>>90683547>likeHas it been any different?
>>90683701Post-Selen shock has emboldened dramaretards plus Nijinigs are super pissed their corpo died
Fuck it, I'm subscribing to RMs.See ya, Space Cowboys.
>>90683793> the "new audience" they are seeking.Was the topic.Are you even capable of following a trend?
Support Cover at all cost
https://x.com/TOPRE_REALFORCE/status/1863387611609616772Botan and Laplus Keyboard collabs.The sales and stock numbers are very interesting
>>90683723>the current moment in question
>>90683106>5 new cute girlsALREADY 3K SHITTERSLOL, LMAO EVEN
>>90683423>2082kek
>>90683746>unfortunately Hololive full of doormatsyou're right. if i had to list the top pushovers of EN i would've listened ame and fauna at the very top. those two have not once in their lives stood up for themselves.
>>90683765There's no benefit to staying unless you're only there because you like other holos and want a place to belong to. There's nothing any company in the world can do to solve that problem without oppressive use of non competes.
>>90683858Kronii facepost was something else tho, completely out of left field.
>>90683574this is based behavior spread awareness so that every fan knows where to find herif you don't support this you are anti simple as
>>90683647Fauna's activity over the past year doesn't really seem like someone who adored the job to me, more like someone who was getting burned out.
>>90683858>>90683782
>>90683574Of course this fucker
>>90683574>LL fans are mostly dramafags nowLiterally selen/doki 2.0
>>90683858>IRySBruh she doesn't just post. She does an almost monthly fucking stream. It's crazy people bring up Kiara and Mori when she unironically does more than them.
>>90683701Dramafags don’t care about what the girls want, even if they pretend they do.
>>90683900MORESLOPMORESLOPYUMMY YUMMY
>>90683886What does that have to do with anything? The new girl likes coalburning books from the 90s because she is a modern day coalburner existing in 2024, dumb shit.
>Aqua leaving>it's talent issue>Ame leaving>it's talent issue>Chloe leaving>it's talent issue>Fauna leaving>"IT'S COMPANY ISSUE, MANAGEMENT ISSUE, MICOMET HARASSMENT">everyone else has come out and said they have no problem with Cover>"THEY'RE BEING BRIBED OR THREATENED BY HIGHER UPS TO DO DAMAGE CONTROL"Why are you like this?
>Raora: i would like to become mama in Hololive>Mori: ?!?!?!?>Raora:in drawing, in drawing>Mori: oh okay
since this is the /#/, can we talk about the incline of drama tubers? they've been eating so good
>>90683574>NijiEn dramaLETS GOOOO!! TOTAL NIJIEN DEATH>HoloEn DramaWHY DO THESE FAGGOTS DO THESE?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvWDYtrRDlE
>>90683923>those two have not once in their lives stood up for themselves.Fauna did in order to unfuck her 3D Debut when they decided to last minute tell her they didn't have perms for a song she chose.
>>90682263at this point even if hololive turns into kurosanji they would still be leading the industry because the competition is not trying at all
>>90683987Yeah I'm sure Fauna who didn't even want to do shorts streams to maintain her chat quality will be happy about that lmaoHonestly makes me think >>90683848 may end up happening, she's not dumb, she knows what it's gonna be like
>>90682862>>90683198Advent have also never complained about meetings at unreasonable times
>>90683603Cover is used to the JP fandom being passive as fuck. The only time the JP fandom has been actively angry at Cover was the HZNTL into Gen 0 anniversary shit where they snubbed Advent in favor of the homos.
>>90675084
>>90684019>see a pattern>someone confirms pattern>NO DON'T THINKthanks for your input, but your opinion is trash
>>90683923This was painfully obvious with Fauna, she would specifically talk about how she hated confrontation. Maybe she's just not suited for dealing with JP corpo autism.
>>90683800They didn't even do the bare minimum of checking how management is treating their talents much less actually providing good back end support. They'd rather have a promise member graduate with no affiliate status than fucking check their insides
>>90683996She is making bank on those Patreon streams too. Although she hasn't done one in a while.
>>90683913One runt does not define the whole gen
>>90683385Shion made a new account
>>90683923>Both can't speak Japanese too so they can't complain to the higher-ups>Both don't have a love for Japanese culture so they can leave easilyProbably worst combo
>>90684059They're sucking Hololive dry, but if Hololive is gone from the West, where else can they suck?
>>90683955i think it was probably about doxxniggers and btvnegros cuz she trashed on them about not using glasses
>>90684114Her comments recently about the story of her debut lore and it got mistranslated to giraffe. She did say that at the time she would've gone along with it, but now, she would put her foot down
>>90683709Made me checkFuck you
>>90683955she got oneguy'd during her red day
>>90684019It can be both a talent and management issue at the same time. Those things arent mutually exclusive.
>>90682993I don't know. For me is a very shitty and shady way to keep their corpse alive if, in the end, they will not even come back for a cameo or participate without pov in a branch collab. I don't see orca or ame joining future projects.
>>90683765I mean as long as they put in a good 3 or so years I don't see a problem
>>90683822Would it be Towa?
>>90683574
>>90684245I don't know how many Towa killed
>>90684019>Aqua softened the announcement with workload mention>anons can call her lazy>Ame didn't give a reason at all and kept saying she's not gone gone and will come back for things in the future>anons can call her greedy>Chloe softened the announcement with workload mention>anons can call her lazy>Fauna crashed the plane with no survivors
Jannies??? Do your job?
>>90684137yeah I don't fucking get it, this is the most obvious shitty oversight that I can see have already happened. If there was oversight, they could've parted amicably but no, it was cold. So fuck management
>>90684003their keyboards are pretty good tho...
>>90682993Which is funny, because no one fucking explained to the investors that this business is ENTIRELY based on FOMO. You get one fucking shot with the girls and that's it.
>>90683822Watame has had 4. 2 in 2020 then 1 for 2021 till 2024 and the current one
>>90683900Laplus having more stock and outselling Botan shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone with a brain, Botan is one of the least popular holos in one of the least popular gens
anything that happens next is faunas fault she didn't have to call out management
>>90684059Each other. These fags are parasites they NEED drama.
It's rare seeing Hololive being on the other end of shitposting when it's usually Hololive fans trash talking other corpos
>>90684060I can't speak for anybody else but I've always called guys like him and False faggots even when they were going after NijiEN. They were vultures grifting hard off of that situation.
>>90684035>collect the semen from her fans and inject the donation from the best specimen>don't tell anyone who you chose, or even better have no way of knowing in the first place so it's anonymous >every person that send their dose will think they are the father, it's a community childlooks like a win/win for me
>>90684344Mane-chan you can go kill yourself you paycheck parasite.
>>90684279>"Do you feel in charge?"Based green woman.
>>90683923>unfortunately Hololive full of doormatsThankfully that is getting fixed with new gens like advent and justice being generally more outgoing and assertive
>>90684019>Why are you like this?It's called having basic reading comprehension.>says verbatim that it's management>schizo rrats that predicted the exact talent and date also indict micometWhat part are you struggling with?
>>90683157>This fag think Cover is the same as it used to beWelcome to post IPO Cover and enjoy the ride
>>90684194Qilin (Chinese version of Kirin) is both a mythical creature and the word for giraffe because Zheng He brought one back from one of his voyages and the Ming Court decided it was the mythical beast.
man
>>90684398Aww you mad? Fauna-chan is gone while the managers are still here
>>90683923>>90684421>women act like women>"this is a problem"westrot
>management depresses gura to the point of quiet quitting>management now pisses off fauna to the point of quittingnote that the top 2 who are also unicorn friendly are getting burned while the homo collabers feel perfectly finesome kike is doing this on purpose
>>90684240It's for the manga/anime or whatever IP project they want. It would them as NPC just like any non-chuuba characters in the storyI don't think they would make merch unless it has a connection with some manga project
>>90684019Because 4 times in 4 months is a pattern and only the dumbest of seamonkeys can't see itAlso you are wildly blowing shit out of proportion, but I guess that's expected from seanog damage control
>>90684444we'll see but they're def not escaping the multiple allegations, they're under a microscope now
I hate the fact that the Dookie fallout pretty much normalized PLshit. I sude to think that the nudge nudge wink wink bullshit was annoying but these cocksuckers just straight up namedrop and link shit.
>>90684493>mask offAnon... this isn't the own you're hoping for.
>>90684093>The only time the JP fandom has been actively angry at Cover was the HZNTL into Gen 0 anniversary shit where they snubbed Advent in favor of the homos.Got links/screencaps? I didn't know about this
>>90683574Don't check the people she's following
>>90684096now this one i can agree, GG also has those little moments of frustration/depression like PoruPoru gigimama hate!
>>90683106>>90604899>>90645511the company that makes the talents popular and not the other way around, of course
>>90684019They're not getting bribed, they're covering their own asses so that the fans stay.
>>90684360What’s Bizarro World like?
>>90684537stop noticing patterns
>>90684576She follows homos? fucking hell thats it, im done
https://x.com/amami_amii/status/1863421795816419824
>>90684575You could probably just go look at the HLZNTL related tweets, and at how they memory-holed the fuck out of the project.
>>90684566it's not like people here didn't do their best to stoke that fireor the Sayu shit before thatit did make it better of vtubers themselves, but it stripped some magic out of vtubing in the process
>>90684566We're all at fault for going along with it because with Doki it was being used against Niji, but now it's used with everyone.
>>90684537Why did they also ghost Kronii? It was also because she ignored the homos after the two quit. Why is management ignoring the blue homo? It's because he's no longer pushing for more hololivexhomo collab. It's all about that community without boundaries vision they like so much.
>>90684137Do they have proper systems or processes in order to even do that? It sounds like they don't.
>>90684537>while the homo collabers feel perfectly fineAme?
>>90684566their feelings matter more than the actual target of their moralfagging, always happens with these types of culture crusaders
>>90684656she follows pippa bro arguably worse than homos
>>90684566Explain why you think being a fan of the talent and not the cartoon character they wear is bad. Use your words.
>>90684360i know this is shitpost but some ppl actually believe shit like this so i'll tell you alreadyno, you absolute retard, at much i just laugh for 1 min and then move on to catch up some vods, i do not fucking care about anything else than hololive
>>90684705>>90684732Western vtubers don't have to follow the outdated jap bullshit
Here's your new direction bro. U rike?
>>90684732>WeDo you mean all the drama monkeys coming to this board looking for 'forbidden' knowledge and anonymity to say retard takes and shit the place?
>>90684537fine theory, now explain why the homos are getting shat on by manager too
>we are never forced to do anything we don't want to do>we swear>must participate in Fes and forced to travel to Japan>tha tha that that doesn't count!
>>90684780Ame checked out ages ago back when her homoshilling flopped, and just wants indiebux which is why she's an affiliate and hasn't started spamming male collabs.
>>90684801They are a weave of both things
>>90684877You didn't explain shit. Try again.
big cat means big pussy
>>90684781and nobody cared about this tweet and keep doing whatever i want because muh social points
>>90684566and then they wring their hands and moan 'how could this happen' when the massively increased exposure finally hits a jackpot on a motivated-enough schizo looking up their shit on archive.org and arriving at their doorstep to offer their personal 'help and support'
>>90684762They don't. It's why diverting resources for their other projects and branches was retarded without stabilizing Hololive's foundation.
>>90684852>Numbers hates JPs nowWow, things have really changed around here.
>even kaela is calling fauna a liarits joever boys...shes a lying grifter
>>90684788Who else?
>>90684866Are you implying the homos have the same manager as the girls? There's no correlation.
>>90684566it was always going to happen desu. Even before selen everyone knew who kson was and all graduations were big deals across the vtuber sphere. It's impossible to keep to keep the lid on something hundreds of thousands of displaced fans now want to know.
>>90684732I told halschizo and his legion of seashart discord buddies to fuck off with his False worship from this thread
>>90684864I don't get this picture, it seems like there are still millions of yen. Qrd?
>>90684537Don't be dumb. Kiara and Irys are fine, Mumei didn't get shit for her silence during the homo collab and never got into another one, zero pressure on Advent even after the hilarious FWMC incident.Gura's passion was destroyed by permissions autism. Fauna might be this plus pressure to meet numbers or participate in things she doesn't want. Homos are not the pattern you're looking for.
Kaela is saying something but my connection is cutting in and out. Sorry if I got any of this wrong She'll do what she's the best at and wants to do things she can give her best at , which means gaming streams and not karaoke. Cover songs and events is what she can do right now, but not karaoke.In every meeting she has with her manager, they never force her to sing. They just talk about her game plans. It's all game projects.
>>90683423LolLmao
>>90683603It was that bad the reaction? I was out just for a day to clean my mind. Although I would understand the feeling, not even a week and another holo graduating with the same phrase> Disagreement with management
>>90683086Yes.
>>90684801Explain why aren't you respecting the talents who want to separate their personas/personal life >>90684781
>>90685001Okay, but, they don't even keep up keyfabe. That shit was dropped a long time ago. We've long since gone beyond being fans of the "character" and more about learning their personal lives and behaviors.So, why is it bad to be a fan of the woman instead of a corporate IP?
>>90684852no one saying they have to, but part of the charm was the focus on character as its own existencenow it's more of a classic VA deal
>>90684873Fes is technically not mandatory but you know if a girl doesn't participate mountains of graduation rrats would form about it so obviously the girls want to avoid that
>>90683574Hope you enjoy your new company saplings, lol
>>90685069It's not the idol activities that's the issue. It's >Traveling to Japan
>>90684732>Wekys nigger, doki endorsed it herself because she wanted to transfer all her fans over out of spite
>>90684873chiara said you can opt out of FES if you wantbut who would turn down partying in japan? maybe only shiori
all of hololive is siding with management looks like fauna was the problem after all
>>90684566I’ll at least say that /haha/ seems to treat Doki as an exception to the rule and not a precedent. They apologized to /who/ for the dramabaiting clipnigger who prompted the tweet here >>90684781.
>>90685082You should see the replies to Yagoo's generic as fuck tweets under both Fauna and Chloe's graduation posts
>>90685110>corporate NDANow that you have a perfectly logical answer trying to dodge with a deflection, your turn. Answer.
>>90685156chuchuchu
>>90684873>forcedFucking newfags.
>>90684962they are both cover co employees of course there is correlation, also according to your theory management is trying to push the homocollabing, then why are they abandoning the homos?
>>90684939You glow
>>90685186Nice try, raidchama.
>>90685069FWMC having a similar-esque message. Wow is every Holo having to tardwrangle their chat? I'm surprised holoID also got hit but I know holoJP had Pekora complain about rrats.Fauna shitting on management caused such a cascade, this is based for her frustrations.
>>90684801I have no problems with supporting the people behind the funny cartoon avatars. In fact I encourage them. What I don't like is dramaniggers fanning the flames and dictating what you should do. It should be a natural occurrence not an obligation.
>>90685143Kill yourself Mahdeen, you pedophile.
Fauna is just one person, and people are much more likely to believe a group over an individual. Just like what happened with all of NijiEN forming a narrative against Zaion, if everyone says there's no problem with management and Fauna can't talk about the specific problems because of her NDA. Everyone will side with the remaining Hologirls over Fauna, and Cover will survive this rough patch just fine. Nothing can destroy them short of having a Selen type disaster in the future. Obviously they don't have to actually smear Fauna like what happened with Zaion, but convincing people that the management problems are happening to only Fauna should be a piece of cake and the fanbase will eat it up. Instead of seeing management as a company wide problem, people will just write it off as Fauna's personal issues with the company. Everyone will forget all about it soon after she graduates, and will get distracted by the next gen or a cool Holo event.
>>90685064Oh I must have missed the part where those 2 are the top 2 ENs and prime targets for culling, instead of the 2 I mentioned. Also I don't know why you kfp shills keep naming Kiara as unicorn friendly when she gives attention to shit like koefficient.
>>90685079>Who cares not my oshiThat's what I'm getting here, Never has it felt more cold than now.
>>90684864Right now there's virtually 0 difference between dev_is and hololive. This is most likely just the result of oversaturation.At least post their numbers after they collab with homos or something.
>>90684866They aren’t, they’re transitioning to getting equal treatment and complaining about not getting pampered more than the girls.
>>90685143The management made her do it
>>90684873They aren't forced to go to fes. Atleast try to pretend you're not a nijinig.
>>90685143Homobeggars really desparate over an old follow
>>90682168Because in real life 99% of people don't drop a 700k a year grossing job because they "want to do something else" you spoiled faggot.
>>90685064Kiara addressed the permission thing being one of the things that notably improved over the years, yet the further we go the less involved Gura was, so that ain't the pattern either
>>90685153And we went along with it because Niji was the target. We're like politicians who change laws when we're in power only to hate it when we lose power and those changes are used against us.
>>90684864I don't like it, and even less when they are using the holos to save their fuck ups and pet projects.
>>90685207>corporate NDA>looks at past MoriLMAO nice answer faggot, now kill yourself
>>90685272>I don't like dramaniggers!Okay, great, glad we agree. However, that's just another deflection. No one cares about the drama niggers, none of them are above 3-view. They're a non-problem.
>>90685011Don't look at Holox monetization stream numbers.
>>90685186so true seaniggie, let's all shit on some more talents while we're here. Can't have managemennt losing face after all!
>>90685158She said you probably could, but no one has ever really tried besides haachama who was on hiatus. It's also 100% a black mark on your record management will treat you differently than the members who went.
>>90683325I think people are honestly making more out of this then it is, it's probably not one single thing but a bunch of little things that she was dissatisfied with. Though honestly I think the biggest factor is Doki, Mint and Dooby broke out solo and proved that it was possible to redebut successfully. I have no idea what the financial side looks like but I'd imagine for Fauna she probably didn't make that much from corpo deals being EN and not living in Japan, she had a lower sub count then most, but as I understand had a good viewer-to-donation ratio meaning she has cultivated a smaller but more loyal viewership, even if she loses a percentage of her viewers if cover is no longer getting a cut she might not be making that much less money. And I know that everyone thinks it's no big deal but seriously travelling for work is fun maybe the first 2 times, then it's a huge pain in the ass that completely disrupts your life. Every job sucks and has things you don't like but once you have an alternative and start doing the napkin math in your head and realize you could maybe take a small paycut but strip out a ton of the bullshit it's hard to come back from that the first thing I thought when I heard the news was "yeah that makes sense, if shes gonna go solo, right now is the time to do it"
>>90685256It's a good thing, give more proof against the retards going "b-but idol culture". Oh who am I kidding, they tried using that shit on Fauna despite her explicitly denying that on her announcement.
>>90685151>medium about virtual entertainment>force people to physically travel across the worldThis is where Cover lost the plot
>>90685291The Zaion situation was a bit different though. I don't know if you were around for when she was active as Zaion but she was a fucking mess, like, a total schizo.
>>90685207nta but you are retarded as fuck, she's commenting on the behavior of people who are not bound by NDA, not her own inability to link names together
The idea that Fauna would want to skip fes is hilarious
>>90684873The "talents can opt out of anything" line is super disingenuous and only believable to those who've never actually held a real job. If a company says Saturdays is "voluntary, you don't need to come in" but everyone else does anyway and you don't, it's not voluntary lol. You will absolutely suffer for it going forward, either by getting worse positions or less support. It's even worse for Japanese work places. Just dare to leave before your boss does even if the work day is over and now you're on unpaid time.
>>90685348>"past Mori"And who might that be? Are you saying she posted RM on her professional Mori account?
>>90685346Dev_is is Hololive and whatever shit cover does once again. Fuck em
>>90685375>she has cultivated a smaller but more loyal viewershipshe was the #1 girl wtf are you talking about?
>>90685158>>90685312>Fauna-chan, you can technically not do Fes, but that means some of your privileges will have to be taken away>you can not do Fes though>I will remind you again you can just not do it
>>90685402She literally spelled out that she didn't want to leave, that she liked being an idol, that she really came to love singing, and these motherfuckers are still using that angle. Absolutely baffling.
>>90685194Did they now? Because up until that point dokiniggers would non stop namedrop her well before that clip caused that response.
>>90685400That's not what was said at all and we already finished the back-and-forth with them agreeing RM stuff isn't a problem, you mongoloid.
>>90685479>Totally making stuff up
>>90685291Good, just like sport.Team>individual
>>90685302I'm still here for you sapbro. No matter what happens, we're both going to make it.
>>90685156chuuuchuchuchu
>>90685429It's probably on the same line as team building activities.
>>90685429>HUH? Hard work is rewarded? NO WAY.Yeah, Saplings that was the thing that Fauna was missing....
You guys didn't do anything when Aqua graduated, why should JP holofans do anything when Fauna graduates now?
>>90685304That's the main issue with them, they should have been something segregated from Hololive. But I think they want the device to replace hololive with that 'new direction' to a magical place with a bountiful invisible market.
>>90685338She can say what she wants, but Gura's second song is still in purgatory, so licensing and perm bullshit is still a major problem.>>90685301Since when is Fauna a top 2 EN?
>>90685158Shiori might have hinted at that being a possibility with her saying idol work is not her priority but I don't think she would mind going to japan for a few weeks for recordings, the last japan trip being 3 months long was too much for her personally
>>90682073It's over. Yagoo will sell his controlling stake and retire to hokkaido to raise a special "nu-wagyu" cattle strain. Roboco will be found dead in a pile of garbage. Noel will get a boob job so she has the biggest tits in japan but the silica will poison her and she will get molested while in a coma. Miko will retire and raise 5 children. Pekora will suffer complications from her anti-cat allergy meds and also go into a coma with noel and be molested too. Flare will molest both of them after being committed to a psychiatric ward due to seeing a clownfish. Koyori will up her streaming game and start doing 16 hour streams. Momomomo Nene will finally succeed in capturing a large beetle. I don't care about the rest.
>>90685431He doesn't remember the dice in her first mv
>>90685343are you literally retarded? if the person themselves wants it then it's fine, but obviously not everyone is fine with it which is what we are talking about now in the context of some doxxtranny naming every single holo
>>90685429Yeah, this.>It's voluntary, but there will be consequences.Shit's transparent.
>>90685482What did you expect? They're just empty retards searching for a high in any way they can.
>>90685207>NDAeven for indies «PL» are pretty taboo
>>90685523
>>90685333Some people do indeed give up money out of choice, or take a lower paying job for one reason or another.
>>90685456So is kson
>>90685301I bet you get really mad everytime IRyS personally responds to Kanauru.
>>90685520
>>90685563>some dice counts, trulylol oh my fucking doxbeats are now fully delusional, DESPITE NOT GIVING A SHIT ABOUT RM STUFF ALL THIS TIMEWhy are you even arguing against me at this point?
>>90682163You wish sapkek.We'll get maybe Gura graduation next but literally every member is saying they don't plan on graduating.
>>90685553I hope she does, I love seeing her on stage even if I understand it's not her priority
>>90685482SEAslugs don't understand English well enough to comprehend a 5 minute video. It's honestly sad.
>>90684083In Japan the holo competitors are>Anycolor- owns nijisanji and virtuareal, black company>Snoy- gave up on making their own and just own part of anykara, black company, no games>Brave- owns a bunch of shit like vspo and globie, black company
>>90685220So you're saying Shiori's manager can order Pekora around or something? Don't reply to me again with your idiocy.
>>90685376While I do applaud the tardwrangling for their chats, I want to hear the person responsible for fucking up. Bright side is that they're going to take this as a learning moment at least. What is nice with Cover is a big yab tries to be avoided twice if possible.Kind of sad a graduation like this has to cause change. Stupid...
>>90685595There were also real names in the tweet, it wasn't just PL.Anyone defending the nigger is a falseflagging Nijisister.
>>90685620I mean was kek
I asked Twitter, with good response of 670 people (with a good fraction who also wished death upon me) if they want to either>kick Fauna>kick every HolostarENguess which one was higher
>>90685255Except it was Fauna who cancelled their last known collab. Try again subhuman
>>90685552Fauna has the 2nd highest ccv after Gura, and during enreco there was even a point where her ccv was higher than Gura's.
>>90685612Oh so when you quit being a doctor and switched to painting landscapes on your youtube channel what drove that sudden change?
https://cover-corp.com/contact/Reminder, if you want your voice to actually be heard fill the form out with your shop email so they know you're serious.
>>90685620Coco was a 2k streamer in Holo though
>>90685717Anon, tell us (and provide screenshots).
>>90685532So much for choice, huh? So much for you can do what you want and there's no pressure.
>>90685333I went from a $160k/yr job to a 130k/yr job because my previous manager would force his work on me and when I complained nothing would get done, then the manager would get pissed off at me and talk shit about me to my coworkers who didn't say shit about it nor defended me. I was pretty much isolated. It wasn't a fun experience.
>>90685736okay I'll go do that, thanks anon, I'm still upset
>>90685205Wow is just like a tuesday for him.
>>90685718Bae is a bad friend and brats are bad fans.
>>90685509>That's not what was said at allso are you ESL or just mentally ill?
>>90685502I’d assume it was mostly catalogtards who would occasionally bother /who/ with it. /haha/ knows /who/ has the polar opposite stance from them on the issue and try to keep that shit in their own thread.
>>90685718Maybe she shouldn't have left Fauna hanging during a collab
>>90685780#IFollowFauna
>>90685797Proof? Oh yeah you have none
>>90685550>they should have been something segregated from HololiveNo. They should've been JP7 and JP8 instead of this retarded "different" branding when in reality there's 0 difference between them.It's been a fucking year since Regloss debut and I have yet to see anything that differentiate them from normal hololive. Just erase the stupid branch name like they did to INNK with AZKI and make them hololive proper.
Alright, I'm out for the night. Have fun with SEAweeds running every possible angle to defend Cover management for the next 12 hours. Again.
>>90685770I'm kind of the opposite, where I know I'm being underpaid but the job is pretty chill and I get to watch streams all day so I don't really want to leave
>>90685532Yes, hard work is rewarded with more hard work.
>thread darling graduatesHOLY KEK
>>90685815>no true dokinigger
>>90685812>conflating the screenshot with the posting contextESL. And you still haven't answered. Go on now. Any time.
Have people even noticed that there will be a Kanata Lamy offcollab tomorrow, with sleepover
>>90685780You really think I like the guy after all the homopro he kept pushing? Even in justice where homobeggars was supposed to die down after advent.
>>90685553more Shiboo
It feels like the “make Cover change fir the sake of the girls” sentiment has been coopted by the homobeggars. I hate those faggots so much. “We demand you merge the branches, no more sexual apartheid!”
huh and just like that only 24 hours later everyone has moved on and the girls are all getting their usual numbers, guess the people that actually watch streams don't really care
>>90685731CCV doesn't translate to profit so it would have no bearing on management decisions, homos or otherwise.
>>90684566nigger straight up naming holoID actual names and family names on twitter with thousands likes on twitter
>>90684083Cover is the best JP vtuber company and it said a lot about JP companies in general
>>90685929This is a probable RRAT, honestly, considering they're public.
>>90685900that context is that screenshot, which you said is about NDA for some retarded reasontake your meds and dilate
>>90685929We are just better at infiltration, maybe next time don't piss anyone off
>>90685893Ah, I get it now.
>>90685736filled out
>>90685660What? no dummy I'm saying the whole company is broken there is no great homo conspiracy, they are not pushing homos, nor they are pushing anything Japanese autism is slowly killing the company because they think management knows better.
>>90685936The stream is over
>>90686007No, the context wasn't, that was added after, and you don't even know the original question. Take your time and learn to read, monkey.
https://cover-corp.com/en/reportI did my job, you should all do yours.
>>90685890I still remember when saplings invaded /#/ because they can't handle shitposts in /uuu/
>>90685929They're leaping on to this and trying to make this all about their fucking homos, see that blatantly botted Altare post. I truly despise that entire branch and their horrible fans, I hope life only gets worse for them until they all quit
>>90685946>mindshare has no bearing on anything, just focus on tangible profitsHoly shit a genuine retarded cover manager is posting here.
>>90686069I'll report Yagoo :)
>>90685812>he thinks he's talking to a real humanhe's just farming (You)s doing picrel
Reminder that Holo managers rotateSo the problem is with the manager's managers
>>90685333Eh...you wouldn't believe how many people are willing to get a bit less pay if that benefits their lifestyle and health. Obviously, not many would choose a really bad low paying job, but I have a couple of friends changing good jobs and gaining less if that could let them stay more with their families.
>>90685112Because conflating the person with the avatar is a good way to put yourself 24/7 on the job and tie yourself to all the baggage in your past under a magnifying glassIt's the root of twitter cancellation where mori saying the n-word ten years ago is used as a justification to say she's a racistIt's the root of some ludicrous shitposters against kiara where they think posts made a decade ago make her their archenemy for lifeIt's how you get people going up to you on the street and asking you to hang out with them because they treat you the same way as you are on stream
>>90685936Eh, as loud as they are the drama baiting/anti crowd is super small. Most Holo fans just tune into streams they like and aren't as tapped into the "meta" as we are. The drama baiting antis also had little influence on what happened with NijiEN. Sure it certainly didn't help but NijiEN's numbers were tanking before the Selen stuff even happened.
I'm getting kind of annoyed.>BELIEVE THE TALENTSThey say, linking all the people defending Cover while completely ignoring what Fauna had to say herself.
>>90685845Seething brat.
>>90686126>only my opinion must exist, it must be botsI can tell how you voted from this one post.
>>90686081You mad bruh
>>90685959Why are they doing this?
>>90686129I don't think Fauna's mane ever change
>>90686042>it's not due to a malicious homofujo manager, it's obviously because japan is inherently shit!least subtle trannysis
>>90686135>3 am meetingsThey're already on the job 24/7, even if they weren't known.
>>90686151have you considered that fauna is not a good person?
>>90686131Yes yes we know, median income is about 38k but every neet on 4chan is a wfh google dev grossing 500k a year before taxes. Much like how I'm a senior corporate tax accountant at deloitte making 800k a year.
>>90686174God you really can't read or understand implications. sasuga seamutt, keep farming those (You)s
Let's combine live and stars into one branch already. This is the only way to go mainstream.
>ina>kronii>mumei>guraWho's next?
>>90686091Clearly it has little bearing since others bring in more cash with less CCV.
>>90685929they really ran with the lie that homos don't get any support
>>90685914>caring about management dogs
>>90686151So Fauna isn't talent?
>>90686255>management good, tholol?lmao?
>>90686151Because this isn't bullying and the other girls are saying it how it is and I'd rather believe them
>>90686163With what's happening right now I don't think brats are the one who are seething.
>>90686060your literal immediate response to anon linking that screenshot to you was "muh NDA", which is also the first mention of "NDA" in that reply chain and 2nd mention in the entire threadyou have brain damage, here's your last (You) so you can go dilate afterwards
>>90685929but we never said that? it's cover who's changing since 2023 and making the girls graduate
>>90685376>Oh who am I kidding, they tried using that shit on Fauna despite her explicitly denying that on her announcement.Yeah and someone said he was "surprised" about this
I unironically fucking hate Fauna now because all my oshi had to be exposed to demoralizing doomposting on twitter and is forced to tardwrangle their chats to slay rrats because fauna chose to be vague and refuses to elaborate what she meant by 'Disagreement with the company' when she could have just easily goes>uuuu~ I don't like traveling to Japan... there's animal products in every meals there uuuu~in her announcement or at least in the skyrim stream
>>90686255Someone whose best friend Shondo is a bad person? No fucking way bro.Probably just as a fucking schizo as her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r5gI2ernFA
>>90686213because corpo bad and needs to free the girls from evil idol activities that they get forced to do
>>90686277It's likely Shion but the thread doesn't care because it doesn't follow JPs
>>90685333This happens all the time, anon. People might burn out, or can't handle stress, or want to chase some dream. I know a lawyer who quit his job to open a pizza joint. Though the pizza joint ended up failing and he had to go back to being a lawyer.
>>90686312>reddit spacingHmm.Go back. And not just to your home but a few more posts so you can learn the question.But you're a disingenuous faggot, so I can't expect you to read.
>>90686174that post didn't call you a bot lol you're actually retarded for real
>>90686163Disgusting doxmonkey
>>90686151Most of the girls didnt say anything about Cover, just their own managers, and if you watch streams, what they did say is they like their managers. So it seems to come down to Fauna's specific management.
>>90686227nah yeah you got me I was actually the homofujo manager myself
>>90686081what’s frustrating is they’re actively sabotaging any possibility of positive change all for some shitters who want to use cover and the hololive girls as stepping stones for when they can fuck off back to being indies. only reason they’re sticking around like leeches is because they’re failing miserably at it.
>>90686332does she male collab
>>90686332https://youtu.be/0xeGE_5kSI0?t=2No, really, who?
>wildlife park in floridaDooby is visiting Gura.
>>90686255Ah yes Fauna is so malicious. She is such a cynical and evil person. Every time she looks at me I start to shake
is he right?
>>90686386So, you either responded twice, or you saw this post, so the vote comment, and got offended. Which is it?
Risu 7k dooooorya
>>90686281If profit was all they cared about then the homos would've been fired ages ago. They know mindshare is important which is why they try to force the homos into being successful to gain female mindshare. I hope you're underage and not a dumb as bricks adult.
Fauna is probably gonna get her 1m sub wish before she goes. I hope she kicks all the homos out
>>90686465ex production kawaii
>>90686322>picthe question becomes "how often" and "for how long" for the travel to Japan thoughI think after 3 years she's probably gotten tired of needing to stay in Japan for a few months each year even though she liked the idol stuff.
>>90686442Holos know they have value and careers after Hololive and the homos have no such delusions. They saw how it went for the best and most popular of them.They're whipped dogs and too cowardly to ever quit. I bet Altare comes back and keeps taking it on the chin like the little bitch he is.
>>90686281Isn't Fauna consistently top 3 or 4 in whatever merchandise they release? From that alone there's no way she isn't insanely profitable compared to most of EN.
>there are people actually trying to pretend Fauna is a bad personDiscord, pls...
>>90686329I don't trust notFauna group
>>90685859wait wait waitnow SEA -LIKES- management?
>>90686474>Marcel
>with a single statement Fauna manages to cast doubt on the moral fiber of the rest of the girls especially those saying they're doing fineIt's a brilliant move from mommy, Doki needed to try to kill herself and send a lawyer while she did it with a single 5 minute stream.
>>90686474>more resources for da bois
>>90686151So we're supposed to exclusively trust Fauna and just ignore what all the other talents have said? How does that work in your mind?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LctQ5p96bkk>gold>i'm ready
>cover fires faunas manager >graduation canceled how mad would dramafags be
>>90686332>>90686465good luck out there to formerly kawaii girls
>>90686151by all talents they also include fauna, and i mean fauna also said she loves being idols, idk why everyone in this thread running with the perception that fauna graduates because of idol and its Fauna vs everyone in hololive
>>90686247They are certainly not, they still want to hang out with their friends and family on their own time without having to worry about saying or doing something careless that can be blown up by a random passerby with a camera phone in the knowAme talked about turning around and running away the instant she saw two teamates with shirts with her picture on themReine hinted at getting bugged in her last members where she said "the fastest way for me to stop talking to you is if you say something like 'hey you sound like a certain vtuber'"
>>90686521>Fauna>Being Anti HomoLOLRORULMAORUMAOKEKKEKERINOKEKAROO.
>>90686218Kronii should have changed KroMa with FauMane, Kronii loves when girls look like little sisters that need to be protected
>>90686327You did not care about Fauna nor your "oshi" Both have already said their shit and you're going to keep pushing until you get the answer you want so you actually shit on someone
>>90686545You would think by that time they'd have a US branch, lmao. Hell, a fucking Cuban desert RRAT figured it out.But trillions to DA BOIS.
Fauna is my princess, and my princess does no wrong
>>90685890New thread darling
We were brothers-in-arms once against the threat of the chinks and the beggars, so why are we fighting now, brothers?
INDOCHADS
>>90686571Schizos are known for their non sequiturs.
>>90686657Is Uki that popular here?
>>90686665Imposters.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_cuckoo
>>90686281Are you talking about merch? SC? You surely cannot be this retarded
>>90686637And you wonder why Mousey is the top of the vtuber game in the world despite it being a JP-created profession
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
Oh right, kinda remembering the big downside to going indie.
>>90686277I hope Ina doesn’t graduate
>>90686474>marcelOh, I remember this fucker.
Please don't look at who "Fauna" used to collab with.
>>90686332CHARZU LOVE!!!!!
>>90686698Bae and mori also join in?
What happen here?
>>90686568Advent sold really well on some recent merch runs, with FWMC out-earning some of the top JP girls. Both FWMC and now Biboo very rapidly moved to JP, maybe they are planning something specifically for those 3. Sounds kind of out there I know, but maybe they thought they can take the hit of Fauna leaving.
>>90686693Did she get another raid?
>>90686277HOLOEN IS A MYSTERYFULL OF GIRLS THAT NEVER STREAMMIGHT BE TIME TO FIND A NEW OSHILAST STREAMED SO LONG AGOWHERE THEY WENT WE'LL NEVER KNOWBACKLOG HAS NOTHING NEW FOR MEI SEE THE WRITING IN THE SANDDEADBEATS FIND OUT WHAT THEY CANALL THESE RRATS CUZ WE KNOW HOW IT ENDSGRADUATIONGRADUATION
>>90686827Only mori
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1863417810401268073https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1863417810401268073https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1863417810401268073
>>90686698I hope you get terminated from life. Painfully.
>>90686794Honestly, her nepo-hire left, she's being treated like shit, and everything is on fire around her, trapped in a country she can't even tweet in.Could you blame her?
>>90686831Didn't they end the service?
>>90686881AIEEEEEE BAD TIMING BAD TIMING READ THE ROOM
>>90686784Yeah indie sucks, this sucks so bad.
>>90686698I mean Fauna graduated, so I don't think they get any special treatment.
>>90686881No fucking way.Okay, I'm done. Fuck 'em.
>>90686881wow, acrylic stando, generic redbubble mugs, and a cheki? truly a golden era for holostars
>>90686976That the only word you know? Life hasn't been kind to you huh
>>90686881lmao>Blue homoroflmao
>>90686603Other talents complained about management all the time, for years. Fauna finally says it once and suddenly management hate is all her fault? lol
>>90686501I'm saying neither is a factor here. They have plenty of high CCV talents who don't homo collab, and they're not forcing anyone. Especially on the JP side, from which the management problems clearly stem. Your homo schizophrenia is making everything about homos.
>>90686474I was pretty excited by the possibilities it opened, but so far I've seen nothing exciting. 3D lives did improve in quality but that's about it, so I'm still waiting for what this growth and "new direction" and work behind the scenes will bring. With it taking this long tho, and seeing as it is causing problems for the talents, I am becoming kind of jaded about the whole thing.
>Bettel just posted something on his PLWhat does it mean?
>>90686784the shipping isreal
>>90686332OMG CHARZU!!!!! The only indie I will ever watch.
>>90686716It's a queer phenomenon where you can probably easily train an AI to tell what is a shitpost just based on pure frequency and you'll be correct 99% of the timeBecause something actually popular won't be posted often for fear of people shitting on itYou didn't see gurame in every single thread even during the height of the craze, for example
>>90687047My post contained 11 words, sounds like one of them touched a nerve and triggered you very hard.
>>90686609Not as mad as if it just turned out to be a publicity stunt for the Promise 3D musical where the plot is about the other girls convincing her to stay and succeeding in the end.
>>90686982I'm not sure if you're serious or not, but I don't know how one has to do with the other.I would agree that this bad timing could have been avoided if the homos just had their own dedicated twitter account though.
>>90687075Was Fauna his oshi?
>>90686881Who is this for?
Fwmc said Mori was the only one helping them find an apartmentThey're really happy for Biboo because she get a lot of support from Cover since she can't speak Japanese
>>90686582Unironically yeah, I've seen the shift in posts from supporting Fauna to Fauna Bad.
>>90687141I don't fucking care what you have to say. I wasn't watching Fauna for the intellectual experience, but an emotional one. So trying to reason with me on this doesn't mean shit.
>>90683555Hmmm sure sure, then if Dooby collabs with Mint your muchobravo mindset is gonna say "Ah actually I do mind about Mint" Like a fast tracking fly changing food choices
>>90686636I get not being able to go into the details at the announcement stream. But there's literally no reason not to elaborate why she chose to do so in the next stream. Now literally everyone of her coworkers have to endure at least another day of baseless speculations and doomposting.Aqua, Sana, Ame, and Chloe all clarified why they all did what they did. But Fauna just refuse to stop the speculations going wild to the point where every member know have to kill some rrats and basically ask their fans to stop harassing their managements.
>>90687054Again, why am I supposed to ignore all the other talents shooting down rrats and only trust the vague statement of this individual talent? The other girls addressed how management fucks up sometimes in their talks, but I don't see them quitting.
>>90687108>Gets triggered by holos existing Your lack of self awareness is astounding worthless subhuman.
>failed to hit 10k even after a massive funnelYeah, people are angry.
Current StockAcrylic Stand - Regis Altare 269Acrylic Stand - Axel Syrios 270Acrylic Stand - Gavis Bettel 383Acrylic Stand - Machina X Flayon 225Acrylic Stand - Banzoin Hakka 267Acrylic Stand - Josuiji Shinri 275Random Cheki-Style Card 2311Christmas Mug - Regis Altare 144Christmas Mug - Axel Syrios 148Christmas Mug - Gavis Bettel 216Christmas Mug - Machina X Flayon 114Christmas Mug - Banzoin Hakka 143Christmas Mug - Josuiji Shinri 148
>>90685079>2082kek
>>90687169Didn't fwmc just show up in japan and tried to make it work? Biboo looks like she had an actual plan.
Kaela said "No comment" when she read a message in chat asking if she talked to Fauna.
Honestly, the only way Yagoo can save Cover at this point is to double down on whatever their new direction is, and cull more non-compliant talents with graduations until it normalizes on the fan consensus (like no one gives a fuck about niji graduations nowadays because it happens everyday). it maybe be painful on the first exits, but the damage would be minimal if it happens more commonly, then replace them with more compliant talents, then make them believe they owe their existence to the company rather than the other way around. Hololive would be reduced to slop shilling, but at least your company is still alive, and the investors are happy.
>>90685654This is the fatal trap, assuming that these companies are your competition. Their actual competition is talents who leave and start chipping away at the fanbase. One talent can't do that, but as more and more graduate it will erode things, especially if new gens aren't succeeding.
>>90687267>Biboo is Ennacuck new targetSad
>>90686976who's your hoeshi?
>>90687320Cover isn't dead, but they are getting a wakeup call. Goodwill is now at its lowest point.
>>90687178Dunno if it's SEA anon, but more like a bunch of other girls streamed and shot down a bunch of rrats. Might have changed opinions.
>>90687317Guess no one likes Fauna lol
>>90687309I'm not sure but I think they did that
>>90687309FWMC did rush it, Biboo is also getting a lot of help from different managers plus the nips are racist.
>>90684279I do wonder if Ame would come back though, everyone keeps saying Affliate status is just to save face, but what if they really can come back lmao
>>90687259It's normal to dislike people you don't find agreeable, you can't just call any normal behavior "triggered". That's pretty different compared to getting personally offended by a single word because it describes you perfectly kek.
>>90687330Easy, just ostracize their asses if they dare to leave
>>90686582>SEAIt couldn't possibly be the other girls shutting rrats down, It's SEAniggers.
I don't understand the joke
>>90687317kek and also fauna didn't raid anyone today. rrat?
>>90687371This post is Down's Syndrome incarnate.
>>90687309Biboo is Asian, that probably makes everything somewhat easier. Also has more options being one person instead of two.
>>90687371Probably is SEA if their response to that is to start shitting on Fauna like it’s an either/or thing.
>>90687277>official confirmed Cover Corp. holostars merch tier list.Bettel >> Literally everyone >> Machina X Flayon
Did Gura change her header? I was sure it was something else yesterday but maybe I'm just going schizo.
>>90687436Is she a fucking nyagger?
>>90684876Ame views everyone equally, you talk like she wants to spam male collabs but she's just an ordinary streamer she'll collab with whoever is interesting and non mentally ill
>>90687422Just call Fauna a liar and try to stir up hatred. We know that's your goal. At least have the balls to do it.
>>90687479remembering the good times
>>90687317You can see the members circling the blue dorito wagon. They just can't outright attack Fauna, but they're using every weasel word to do it.
>>90686474I haven't seen a single new thing after cover went public
>>90687497Oh so she just suddenly thought the homos were no longer interesting coincidentally after her shilling flopped?
>>90687479>maybe I'm just going schizoyes
>>90687309Yea, FWMC just went 'fuck it we'll do it live!', and Biboo, after seeing how THAT panned out, is being much smarter about things.
>girls shit on management all the time >Peko at one point in the verge of tears talking about how she wish she could do more for her fans but ideas were constantly shut down >Fauna leaves saying it's because of management >Everyone goes "works on my machine" to cover their asses >"Oh wait I guess Fauna is a lazy liar"??????
>>90687521>membersFunny way to spell "false flaggers."
>>90687436mogochan...
>>90687466Sure but that guy is doing the whole "if you don't think cover is the devil incarnate you hate fauna" so go figure
>>90687466"Shitting on" here means saying she didn't handle the situation well at all.Shut the fuck up, Sapling.
>>90684562What else do you need to see? There is one big reg flag called IPO and you think they won't slowly sink? The company itself probably will stay afloat, but the spirit of Hololive is sinking to the bottom of the ocean.>The pillars of Hololive are still around, they are still good!The pillars are Marine, Pekora, Miko, and Suisei, Fubuki, and Sora. Do you notice the similarity they all have? They have too much to lose if they leave Hololive. >MarineShe's creative and entertaining, but the contrast between her persona and most of the holomems further highlight her.>PekoraNumber rabbit.>MikoShe's putting her all into Hololive.>SuiseiShe and Hololive are depending on each other. >FubukiShe's a hag and most hags prefer stability.>Sora One of the reason Hololive was born. She will have the most attachment to Hololive out of everyone else.>The members who graduated and are going to graduate don't shit talk Cover. Because they don't want to turn the cultists turn against them, possibly offending one of the biggest vtubing company with a lot of brands trying to butter said company up because it's the current hot thing, out of consideration of the coworkers/acquaintances/friends still working under Cover, out of consideration that they had a good time working under Cover for a certain period of time.It's a pretty damning situation when four people are graduating in such a short time, yet a lot of people still think Hololive is fine. Why should they sacrifice themselves and take the risk of exposing themselves towards the wrath of the gullible cultists by shit talking the beloved Cover and possibly breaking NDA?
>>90687479No, that's the last time she was able to actually choose her own song for Fes. Remember when talents got to choose things?
>>90687432Bae in graduation risk makes no sense.
>>90687479Didn't change anything. She just did her (by now) usual quiet depressed RTs
>>90687448>Asian but dont speak japanese
>>90687436the joke is Mococoeh not being japanese enough to understand Mahjong
>>90687560It's obvious their angle is manufactured. Hell, for sure, one guy is posting from his phone, because it's always two posts with the same length.
>>90684546Yeah, it’s the pattern called "contract renewal time" because none of them was unhappy enough to just leave early
>>90682076I have a feeling Fauna's problems go beyond management and she might have grew dissatisfied with the audience itself. That "I'm not your friend" incident was a warning sign even if this thread was in denial about it, she was always twitch at heart and pretty anti-parasocial this goes for her RM content too we all know why and it's likely that she lost *people in her life due to the pressure of being in hololive and keeping things secret that can make a person bitter. We know she also HATED the mommy shit since forever what if she pushed for a drastic rebranding and the IP rules came in the way?
>>90687582That’s also SEA.>>90687591You’re being disingenuous here.
>>90687565I'm talking about holomems. Even Bae threw Fauna under the bus.
>>90687593>sora>pillarOpinion discarded. Try constructing an argument using facts, not feelings. If Sora quit and all 4000 ccv of hers disappeared forever nothing would happen.
>>90687582This reminds of the whole "if you don't love Dokibird you're pro-Niji" shit from earlier this year.
Be honest, how many of you are astro turfing right now?
>>90687309FWMC are turbo weebs and were salivating at the mouth at the opportunity to live in Japan again.
>>90687664A lot of idiots did. We got a month to see if they crack or if they deserve to be stuck with Cover management forever.
I'm going to miss this kirin
>>90687371Maybe every other girls explained what happened with them while Fauna only said "Disagreements with the company"
>>90687560There's a difference between disliking your boss and then disliking your boss enough to quit your job.
>>90687697Welcome to the modern internet where there's no room for nuance and if you don't go 100% on one side it's immediately assumed you go to the other extreme
>>90687705I use a different kind of artificial grass now
>>90687705There's probably three people at most posting on CD and from phone.
Ojou pls shave my balls
>>90687728And there's a limit to how different people handle utter incompetency and gross negligence
>>90687629So? She looks the part at least, JP boomers are probably more willing to rent or whatever just based on that.
>>90687532>new studio>less 3d lives as a consequence>more slop shilling (sponsorships)>less streamssome happened, but not at the way you think it would.
>holomens talking about cover's new direction and they are ok with it>never mention about management good>"HURR DEY SAYIN MANGMEN GUD FDUND LIAR"why are they like this
>>90687779And it's working in dividing up the fans
You would think it would get old endlessly samefagging
>>90687560The burgermind cannot comprehend nuance, it's like >>90687521 says, if you don't 100% shit on Holo management you must hate fauna and wish she choked to drag
>>90687705/vt/ is one big astroturf. You're better off engaging with usernames you recognize somewhere else.
>>90687705Anyone whose take is ridiculously one sided and who casts blame on either fauna or the other talents, amongst others of course
>>90687593People say about Cover cultists when saplings look like some cult members
>>90687801Yeah and some people are babies who can't handle having to travel to Japan once in a while.
>every holomem that spoke on the issue after Fauna's announcement made sure to specifically address company changing directions
>>90687834Not really. Don't pat yourself on the back.
>>90687852They have spambots to assist them, that eases things a bit.
>>90687825But more voicepacks. Think of the voicepacks.
>>90687705It's extremely easy to identify the faggots if you simply remember one cardinal rule:Shitting on any holo = bad
>>90687539well yeah bruh, a new branch that has males is invited to the company, slightly interesting, so you invite them.After that, she thought they weren't interesting anymore. The end. Normal streamer stuff
>>90687870No they didnt, or you only watched liked 2 of the girls talk about it.
>>90687746shills like to play both sides, so i can see why people see everything in black and white nowadays
>>90687870stop noticing patterns, i said!
>Mio mengen>Never been told to do more idol stuff>Never been told to stream more>Never been told to play this or that game>Never been told to collab with this or that person>”会社との方向性の違い” is just a convenient phrase to use for leaving the company
>>90687870>some said the company isn't changing directions while others confirmed it
>>90687746It's mostly shitposters and tourists. To be fair that is most of the internet these days.
>>90687896What voicepacks did Fauna do?
>>90687825For EN at least there have never been more streams than there are now.
>>90687953That's the whole thing, she didn't
>>90687936Anyone with half a brain could have told you that last part.
>>90687896Fauna didn't do voice packs
Gura retweeted she could stream if she wanted to
>>90687910He didn't watch any stream
>>90688015For this management? lol Nah.
>>90688015>stream lmfao suck my 3cm dick
>>90688015She wants to stream Muse Dash.
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING
>>90687911Yeah, it's a real shame public discourse has become like this. Fucking retards all around and shills coming out of every nook and cranny. A few years ago I would've said we should institute a minimum IQ, but these days it feels like that's no longer enough
>>90688015there's still like 3 hours left
>>90687936It's about money. There I said it.
>>90687910>>90688022Why lie?
>>90687936Holo JP are bootlickers nothing new and Bae statment makes me worried the last time she talked about change we got stars EN.
Raora Schedule
>>90688015no react perms
>>90687936>Was told she had to have her muff shaved if she wanted to liveYou're basically saying they never told her she has to get paper cuts while they lopped off her arm
>>90687941>Divide and ConquerIt's scary how effective this tactic is for rulers or people on top.
>>90688115Because you dont watch hololive, threadshitter-chama.
>>90681994bros. what are other sites like playboard to track viewership but free ?
>>90687746>>90688122Case in point
>>90682576Because doki, minto,dooby and some others showed you can get similar or even bigger numbers after leaving without sharing money with the company. As always nijisanji ruined Vtubing because it started with their implosion and likely inspired holos that were already disillusioned in some way or just didn't care about things Hololive had to offer other than exposure with the audience and Fauna just wanted to "hang out".
>>90687412I can assure you. 99% of the people in your life find you disgusting compared to the targets of your hate. For good reason too because ever subhuman deserves it.
>>90687936会社との方向性の違い could be anythingIf you disagree about payment, it's 会社との方向性の違いIf you disagree about the future plan, it's 会社との方向性の違いIf you disagree about how to managing, it's 会社との方向性の違い
love her
>>90688129>total Fauna avoidanceThe company mandate went out. Let the stupid sabotaging kirin do her dumb thing until she's out.
>>90688148it's the second post of this thread anon
My rrat said that Dooby's "brother" isn’t actually her real brother but her boyfriend pretending to be her brother.
>>90688147Bae herself just said it, dipshit. Turn of x2.
>>90688015she only retweeted graduation stuffshe's going too
>>90688139It's scary how effective shitposters using this tactic too
>>90688207No wonder she didn't raid fauna lol. She's mad at her for quitting.
>>90687436Furiten means you cannot win off a tile you discarded.The 'obviousness' of furiten is key to making mahjong more a game of strategy and less a game of chance, because it means you can look at what your opponents discard to see what is safe to discard against them.Mococo not being to see this in her own discards means that she is barely thinking while playing mahjong, because its the whole core of the game.
>>90688231>her brother>fortnite>screams million>screeches like a gremlinNah, too fucking impossible, and it sounds disgusting
>>90688231He actually sounds underage. And no, I don't mean when he's doing the Mickey voice.
>>90687560the 100-person minecraft was one of the cancelled projects that made pekora sad back then. now that she was suddenly allowed to do it, she thinks the company is good now.
>>90685750more like 4K playing solo slop at a time when even holo JP was still smaller
>>90688236Im saying most of the girls didnt say it, reading comprehension faggot.
>>90688299SEAbro thinks 14 is legal age
>>90688236The "changes" are the product of a long span of time, not a sudden change. Promise got their 3Ds almost 2 years ago
>>90688231get some mental help anon, that is fucking disgustnig
>>90688345most of the girls haven't even comment yet, dumbass
>>90688231the kids like in middle school lol
>>90687904Kek you're right. >>90688122
>>90687560There is quite a gap between complaining about something and thinking that it is evil or should be removed / prosecuted
>>90688292I finally understand how blue homo feels after veshit and magfag left
Marine has 3 1/7 scale figure now
>>90688366So what? That makes it, what, nonexistent?>>90688122>bois shilling just now, tooWell, fuck. Buckle up, I guess.
This thread has an unfortunate number of monkeys.
>>90688384A good amount did retard, and of those that did said nothing about changing direction or whatever the fuck.
>>90688294Thanks anonI tried mahjong when I was playing Yakuza, I find it hard to understand
I'll only trust what Gura or Mumei says.
Fauna
>>90687904the only holos I shit on are ones that male collabas long as they don't do that they're good in my book
>>90688465Again, why lie? Shit, you could even be a clipwatcher and figure that out.
>>90688486>Nothing>As always
>>90688527Gay faggot stop replying too me.
>>90688429Yeah, the Age of Sigmar general in /tg/ used the left one as its OP image while joking that it could be used as a proxy.
>>90688493why do you love shitting on Bae and Mumei?
>>90688531Actions speak louder than words.
>>90687688Being a pillar is not about CCV only you dumb cunt. Sora wants to be an idol in virtual world and that was one of the main reasons why Cover created Hololive. It's true that it won't have significant impact CCV wise, but she was the raison d'être of Hololive. If she is gone due to "difference in direction" bulshit, then you best believe me Hololive's management will be burned alive.
>>90688547>tooAnd the monkey's mask slips.
>>90688384NTA, but ERB, CC, Kiara, Biboo, Shiori, and Bae have addressed the graduation on stream, that's about a third of the branch.
>>90688462stop conflating these subhumans with that cute little guy. he's just eating his melon and chillin. not bothering anyone.
>>90688207CC raided Fauna, though. If there is any avoidance, it comes from Fauna
>>90687320The HoloEN member that originally drew me to Hololive and the one that I've enjoyed watching more in the past year and a half than anybody else have both left/are leaving in the midst of direct issues with how Hololive currently operates.Why in the world would I stay for the company and not follow the talents that made it?
>>90688560I only do it while they're actively male collabing.If they aren't then they're fine.
>>90688533why are they shilling this unironic slop? do they pay more than RAIDSL?
fauna should make friends with riri
>>90688294Furiten adds and removes strategy. For example, if you are second in the final round with a spread like 36000/25000/x/x, a non-dealer mangan tsumo would not be enough to win but in traditional Mahjong you could discard the winning tile and attempt to ron off 1st place to overtake him
I have decided I cannot trust the words of people of Asian descent.
>>90688533>holos shilling JP Raid Legendsenjoy the new direction, maybe.
>>90687688Interesting take. In fact, why don't you point out when talents are valuable enough to you.>inb4 homos
>>90688207except there will be open vc minecraft mondays with girls joining.
>>90688211maybe i didnt dig deep enough, but non of them able to track or make a chart for monthly/yearly viewership like playboard
>>90683851Sure she could skip it but that would make her stand out in a negative way imagine there's another Promise anniversary and Fauna is not part of it because she would rather hang out with chat, imagine how it would look if she missed out on things like FES due to laziness and streamed all the time making it all the more obvious for everyone the optics are terrible and most people would shit on her for that.
>>90688611you will be replaced by the people who appreciates the company more, simple as.
>>90688654It's unironically over.They won't die instantly, but it'll just be a slow pathetic slide into irrelevancy over the next six months.
>>90686770>in the worldon twitch and reddit
>>90688533Yummy yummy yummy, slop in my tummy.
>>90688625Post merch
>>90688694It's better than choosing to graduate.
All it takes is a few "yosh yosh things are going to be okay" for people to suck cover's cock again, next graduation is going to be extra funny
>>90682168hololive is not a "normal job" we wouldn't watch it if it was normal
>>90687862Most fanbase always have cultists-like fans. Being a cultist for a company is retarded beyond belief. Imagine licking the boots of the suits
>>90688699who give a shit
>>90688754Are saplings going to move out after January or are they going to turn this thread into a permanent /lig/ colony?
>>90688768so you can steal my pics and pretend to be me? no thanks
>>90688694FAUNAWOULDN'TSKIPITGET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING HEADS SHE WOULDN'T SKIP ITSHE DIDN'T SKIP NEW YEAR'S DESPITE OVERWORKING HERSELF THAT MONTHSHE DIDN'T SKIP OUT ON ALL THE GUEST APPEARANCES DESPITE OVER WORKING HERSELFSHE DIDN'T SKIP OUT ON FESSHE DIDN'T SKIP OUT ON BREAKING DIMENSIONSSHE SHOWED UP TO IRYS' ANNISHE'S GOING TO BE IN THE FUCKING MUSICAL DESPITE GRADUATINGTHAT IS NOT THE ISSUEWATCH THE FUCKING STREAM IT'S FIVE FUCKING MINUTES
what the fuck does gura do all day that she cant even post a tweet
>>90687655she wanted to collab with gramps but Kronies poiosned the well
>>90688807Anybody that's held a job for more than a week knows exactly what the language they're using is. Things are bloated and people are justifying their jobs in the face of the oncoming cutting of dead weight.
>>90688835Licking anybody's boots is stupid in general
>>90688611I'm happy for you, anon. How lucky that you get a clean break from Hololive! All the cool shit your favorites are gonna do now that they have talent freedom and no homework eating up their time and stressing them out. You're going to have a blast every stream.
>Only one proper 3D live.>No solo anniversary live, birthday live, or anything of the sort.>Not doing voice packs.>Mostly absent from big projects.>Not doing her main content, which is ASMR, for some reason.>Streams are always below two hours long.>Doesn’t stream often like the others.>Her dream job is being a streamer, but she never specifically mentioned wanting to be an idol. she just mentioned that she enjoys doing idol-related things.Are we sure that she's not lying about her "trying her best?" I can't see any fruit of her effort for this past 3 years.
What in the world is the JOP reaction to Fauna of all people saying that she's leaving due to disagreements with management? Don't they have this image of her as being an ultra-chill quiet type?
>I'm doing what I can, when I can.This shit sounds ominous now, huh?
>>90688860I'm a # native. You are the colonizer.
>>90688964Post something only someone in /#/ would say
>>90688768>>90354309
>>90688635Stop shitposting Towa
>>90688892Fuck they're going to cut Miko, Pekora, Kiara, Noel, Shiori, Bae, Matsuri to debloat the talent roster
>>90688950Same as EN's. Everyone logged on to Twitter and shit on Yagoo.
>>90688937Mommy is trying her best.......
>>90688959no. that's just how ayame and shion operate
>>90688820Being a performer isn't a normal job generally but you see highly successful music acts (for example) break up all the time with the members never reaching that level of fame or fortune again. Why should it be different for these virtual girl streamers?
>>90689010>he thinks numbers is about numbers
>>90688231why not pretend to be the older brotherweak rrat
>>90688937I think her not doing anything to make money for the company is the reason for graduation
>>90689010/#/ is the cunny general
Were... Saplings always like this?
>>90689010NTA but that's easy/#/ is the best thread on the board
Now if sapling are cult they should burn cover office
>>90688486can you for once in your life just fucking trust Kiara and Mori who does more action than words.
>>90689077Chu
>>90688880Undertaking cancer treatment
>>90689010Kuzuha slipMigo slip
It's not them that left, it's YOU that left them
>>90689080Found the imposter
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5j6XIStYOt4https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5j6XIStYOt4https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5j6XIStYOt4
>>90688880she became a farmer full time
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1863440639335252307https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1863440639335252307https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1863440639335252307RRAT?
>>90689010We love Fauna here
>>90688937You forgot the part where management refused to let her do most of those things and she had to fight for it
>>90688880She is trapped in Ame's basement idk
>>90689199iroha is graduating... no...
>This post is brought to you by Cover Corp shareholders.>Please…what’s going on?>Fix your shit. Your corpo middle management will ruin your dream. Do the right thing for your talents.>Hope the Blackrock ESG money was worth destroying your company.>dude do something>You were supposed to destroy the dark side not join them Yagoo >You are losing fans of hololive from this..>Multiple talents have left this year due to differences with management. Please be sure that you are doing all you can to keep your talents. Don't forget, we are here for them, not for your company>Please take a look at your management atm to see if anything is harming the membersThere. Now you know what twitter is posting. Shitposting here doesn't' reflect general sentiment.
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1863440639335252307https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1863440639335252307https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1863440639335252307AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>90688875The question was whether she could or couldn’t (practically) skip it, not if she would or did skip it
>>90689011Disgusting if you are actually him but now I know which subhuman is behind some of the posts who shit on holos.
>>90689128Trust Mori who running off to play with JP ecelbs or Kiara who wants to drop her entire character and to watch FWMC for immersion nope I need gura or Mumei to tell things are fine.
>>90689128Honestly, Gura and Mumei would probably say the same thing anyway. Schizos are mostly pretending otherwise because they want to push this civil war angle and they’re the perfect picks to be on Fauna’s side in their made-up scenario.
>>90689199Iroha is obviously sick from her anniversary stream.
>>90688937it's really that bad wtf? All I know is she have 1 original song.
>>90688880I thought she basically works for free at an animal shelter or something.
>>90689199Things going downhill QUICK BOYS!
>>90688937This will be ignored or shit on but that doesn't make it any less true, post JP-arc Fauna ended up being a shadow of her former self. Maybe JP covid autism should've lasted longer.
myth and holox is already down to 3...
>>90689055The actual phrase is>he thinks the numbers thread is about numbersAnyway SUS
>>90689260oh I don't actually shit on themI just ignore them unless people are spamming male collab shit
>>90689199Iroha is sick. We already knew this nigger.
>>90689271They did.
>>90689221nta but what are those things?
>>90689253
>>90689077that's right
https://x.com/WC27WC27/status/1863302010113507418Liz is so real for this ...
Which has a significant impact? Chinkout or Hololive Graduation Amongus?
>>90689349HAHHHAHAHHAHA FUCK YOU JPGOOD GOODCANCEL IT
>>90688937>I HATE HOLOS!Be less obvious.
>>90689186Comfy
https://poal.me/cquf8x
>>90689240Twitter isn’t a reflection of general sentiment either if you’re not a homobeggar or Nijisister. Most people are probably just keeping quiet and seeing which way things go.
>>90689199aren't these things usually pre recorded?
>>90689349>The decision has been made to postpone the event due to management's discretion.OH NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOFIRE UP THE RRATS BOYS
