What does "affiliate" mean? Will Ame and Chloe make con and hologra appearances still?

>>90700087
This is only the beginning. Prepare for The Final Yab.

>>90700441
It means Cover gets to still sell merch of them. That's pretty much it

>>90700087
It's actually pretty freaky how Holodrones try to silence people from shit talking management and try to hide talents complaining about management as much as possible. Forcing someone with rona to go record is fucking black as night

>>90700677
Micomet send their regards

*yawns*

>>90701140
How many times have you polished Yagoo's cock?

>>90700087
I’m not clicking that link but I don’t believe you

>>90701042
Say whatever you want. Just don't pretend like hololive's current drama invalidates Nijisanji's.

>>90701174
You can just read the comments and read the Holodrones trying to get Chloe to shut up about Hololive's black practices

>>90701240
Nijisanji is the fucking scum of a company and should burn down but man don't use that to shield Cover. They are fucking up and I don't want them to end up like that shithole.

>>90701373
Cover would have to do deliberately sabotage themselves to end up as dogshit as Anycolor at this point. I don't see them doing that.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2UyDHEdnY&t=1284s

>I was wondering if it was okay, but then I coughed.
>20:07 I thought it had decreased just a little, but the next day my coughing increased again for some reason, and I thought, “That's not right, but it decreased a little today.
>20:15 I was coughing a lot, and now I'm still coughing, but I have a stuffy nose, a coughing fit, and a cough
>20:23 I'm coughing lots now because I have an intense coughing fit.
>20:34 I'm still coughing because I feel like I'm drowning and I'm choking and coughing, basically.
>20:42 I've recovered to the point where I don't cough if I can't have a single breath >20:48 I've been coughing 24 hours a day except when I'm sleeping. "I can't do this anymore,” and then I thought, “Well, maybe this is it.
>21:11 I thought, “This is probably bad,” but I had to go to the recording studio. I had to go to the recording session . So I had to go to the recording session
>21:22 And it was really, really hard for me, but I had to go...
> 21:28 I had to take two songs, and I didn't even know if I could take two songs. But we were talking about how we don't even know how to play that one song, so we're going to try it anyway.
> 21:41: I was told to do it, so I did it, but I was coughing so hard, it was like...
>21:57: I heard that people are allowed to work from about 10 days after the virus is gone. I'm not sure if it's safe or not, since it's the 11th day of the corona.
>22:11 : I was doing it with a cough that wouldn't stop forever, and I didn't feel nauseous at the time. I was coughing a lot, but I was coughing so much that I was coughing when I sang. I was really nauseous when I was coughing.
> 22:33: I told him I was going to throw up and he said let's take a break and I was like, “I don't think so, I'm going to throw up. I'm going to take a break, and I'm going to throw up, and then I'm going to take another"
> 22:44: "I'm sorry, but there's nothing I can do about it".
>22:51: And then I took it, and then I took it again, and then I took it again, and then I took it again, but honestly, those two songs. The quality of the song is like a scrub, and her voice is too sharp! I can't even get a note roll and I'm done with it.
>23:12 :I'm just so sick of it... I really don't know what's wrong with it. I didn't want to put this stuff out there, but I had no choice, so I did it.
>23:23 :I'm sorry, but after it's over, there's just so much talking... I don't know why it was so rattling and glaring.
>23:35 :I was told i had to record it the next day. I told him I'm sorry but I can't do it. I'm sorry, but I can't.

There's more

>>90701172
getting sleepy here, got anything new for you to tell me?

>>90701240
Roru rumao
I thought you faggots keep trying to imply Holo is white
Turns out Holo is just a few shades brighter than Niji kek

>>90701954

>"If you don't get it right, let's just do it again"... no, it doesn't make sense.
>25:20:I'm going to use my throat and use my throat and use my throat and use my throat and use my throat and use my throat and use my throat and use my throat and use my throat and use my throat and sing.
>25:27: I'm not sure what it is, but I have to do something else, so when I'm doing that other thing, I lose my voice.
>25:34: I asked her if it's okay if I lose my voice during that other thing, but she said no, but she said it's okay if I lose my voice during that other thing.
>25:41: I know, I know, but I've been told I just can't help it, and I'm not sure if that's even possible.
>25:51: I'm saying that she's really saying that... I was shocked because I didn't understand what she meant, but of course, that's the premise.
> 26:07: I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have a schedule that keeps you in poor shape, of course I can understand that you're scheduling your work and I understand that you're trying to get people to listen to you.
> But if you really want to do what you want to do, if that's what you're aiming for, it's definitely not a good time to do it.
>26:28: I'm not sure, but I don't think the people who are supporting me feel good about it, so I don't think it's a good idea.
>26:35: I told her I couldn't do it, but she said she couldn't help it.
>26:44: I was like, “Are you serious?” But I still think it's a little bit too much. I think it's really important to take care of your mental health.
> 26:57: I'm really hoping you'll hold on to it, at least as a product... but the quality is so shitty.
>27:06: I really didn't want to do the take, and then after that, I was like, “Oh, my God, I'm going to have to do the take".
> 27:13: I was like, “No, this can't be happening." I mean, there were two mistakes on the management's side, and I was like, “Oh, no, that can't be right." I was like, “Oh my God, that's not possible.
> 27:36: I was really upset and depressed, and I went home and cried. I know it's like, “Don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry.
> 27:51:But I was so depressed.
> 27:56: I thought I had to say it more strongly, but this time it didn't matter what I said.
> 28:13: I'm not sure if it's because I'm not feeling well. I'm sorry, but I just can't help it if I'm sick.
> 28:27: I think it's especially true for Corona, but it doesn't matter to Mane-chan, who's willing to take on the challenge.
>28:39 And when they use such strong language, you know they want you to do it, you know, so you have to be careful.
28:46
I don't want to hurt her, and I think about it too much.
>28:57: I'm not sure if it's too much trouble or not.
>29:10: I knew that if I went home feeling like this, it would probably not be the best performance.
> 29:16: I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to give the best performance if I go back and do it like this, but I don't have a throat voice, and I didn't have any voice at all.
> 29:24: I don't know what to say, but I'm going to say this.... I thought it was impossible, and I didn't care if he got mad at me or not.
> 29:35: I just wanted to say I'm sorry to you guys

Wait until you learn what a “job” is, it’s horrifying.

>>90702536
It's illegal for your job to force you to work when you're sick

>>90702536
civilized countries legally require employers to offer sick days

>>90702628
Civilized countries also take COVID seriously

>>90701954
grim

I think anons can generally agree that if they were to put themselves in her shoes for a second, being asked to do a more strenuous part of your job while you've fallen ill sucks ass and you'd also not wanna do it. It's like being called in your job for the dinnertime rush while you've got a 38.6 C fever. Finding yourself in a position where the best choice is to work while you're ill, when doing so is counterproductive to healing faster, is not ideal. Rrats are different. The fact that she did this under these circumstances is real, according to her. Believing otherwise means you think she's lying, which she (most likely) isn't.

The entirety of Hololive fans need to acknowledge that what she went through is real without misconstruing or inventing "what she meant".

>>90701954>>90702528
Grimdark

>>90701240
No one even talking about Nijisanji here nigger. Take yagoo’s dick outta your mouth for a minute and try to think.

>>90702844
I think the most damning part is her being forced to sing even though she's throwing up every time she sings and her manager straight up saying
>I don't mind it if you lose your voice singing the next song though

>>90702844
yeah this is pretty cut and dry, >>90701042 is right in that it's awful how this was essentially ignored

>>90702528
I'm very interested in what she said but I'm not good at understanding JP beyond some basic words I've picked up from anime. Did she say whether she told anyone that she was sick?

>>90701954
>>90702528
This is disturbing, not only did she have COVID but she also had other health conditions before this, she could've actually fucking died

>>90703113
From the translation, she told them she had Corona and they had her go in for recording after ten days. She went in, started coughing and throwing up during recording so she said that she couldn't do it anymore but they basically said that there was no choice

>>90702844
The most shitty thing is her throat is her most important asset as a vtuber yet they are forcing her

>>90703113
They know but Sakamata had no choice.

>>90703216
If I remember correctly, She had surgery at beginning of year.

>>90703207
I see. But from the translation, there's nothing that tells me if Chloe informed them she's too sick to do what she needs to do properly.

The translation says "I heard that people are allowed to work from about 10 days after the virus is gone. I'm not sure if it's safe or not since it's the 11th day." This makes it sound like management asked her how long she'd need to recover and she decided on ten days, at best. I'm not looking for reasons to defend Hololive, I just wanna know the truth of what happened.

>>90702628
>legally require employers to offer sick days
if you live in a real civilized country then you have no cap on sick days too (unlike america)

>>90703360
No and she clearly want to rest more but Mane-chan want to take this challenge.

>>90703373
where I live we have five fully paid sick days but unlimited sick/medical leave which the government will pay a small amount for, seems fine to me

>>90703360
There's an obvious language barrier and the translation is shit but it sounds like she went in sick and it probably wasn't of her own will.

The more obvious thing is her telling her manager she feels like throwing up and her manager tells her to take a break so Chloe had to insist that she's going to keep on throwing up if she sings. Then her manager basically says
>There's nothing I can do about it

At that point, most regular jobs would have just told her to go home

>>90703360
> 27:36: I was really upset and depressed, and I went home and cried. I know it's like, “Don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry.

Are you blind?

>>90703207
This is the price for being popular in the mainstream. Becoming soulless.

>>90703487
Jesussssssss

>>90702513
Your problem is you having to make up enemies to serve your point, instead of making a point to criticize your enemies.
Stop assuming everyone who disagrees with your creepy corpo apologism is all from the same group.

>>90702513
Shut the fuck up if Hololive have problem inside that does mean Niji is better than Hololive.

>>90703777
Nijicope

>>90703807
I talk shit to Niji and you me Nijicope?

>>90700919
also they dont have to can projects already in the works involving them

Holodrones status?

>>90703553
I'm trying to understand the specific sequence of things that happened so I know who deserves to be held culpable. It's one thing if Chloe comes in without telling anyone that she was still feeling bad because she thought she'd be up for it and pushed herself to do it. It's another if she was forced to do it. Her feeling bad about the output after it didn't turn out the way she wanted can be a product of either scenario. Thank you for typing, but the energy that went into your fingers was wasted by leaving three words that serve no purpose other than to make you feel good about yourself by calling someone out you perceive to be stupid.

>>90703930
Too long don't read

>>90703975
Thanks for being willfully illiterate and ignorant. Your uninformed infantile opinion will not be missed.

>>90703930
She says
>I had to go to the recording session
>I was told to do it so I did it

I don't think she wanted to go otherwise she wouldn't have brought up how sick she was that morning. She also at least clearly told her manager that she was sick as shit and her manager basically forced her to sing anyways

>>90704046
My point is more valid with you.
And I know you will miss me very much.

>>90704082
I see. One last point I'm unsure of. Hololive's recording stuff are in-house, right? They aren't outsourced? I'm asking because of that shit with YAB and Nijisanji. I don't know whether she's talking about her experience with a manager from within Hololive or some manager that came in that might be related to the recording studio/staff of the place she might've been doing it with instead.

>>90704082
This anon understand language.

>>90704156
A rarity among vt anons

>>90703360
Is it actually important whether she explicitly told them or not? She said she was going to throw up during a recording and that should be a concern for the staffs.
I understand that sometimes you just have to suck it up and do your job, but we should have been talents first management later. Is that kind of unreasonable? Yes, but you have to understand this is not a normal job and this is how Hololive become big.
Why should we accept the talents we support and treat preciously get treated like this by the staffs?

>>90700087
SMELLY WOMAN I WANNA PLAP HER AWOOO

>>90700087
Huh weird, Cover prevented Magni from streaming when he had Covid so the second time he got the bug he lied about it.
Guess some managers are just assholes.

>>90700087
Downside to laughing while talking about mistreatment makes people not view it seriously. That's what she did, unfortunately.

>>90704224
I asked for the sake of chronology. But after listening to the story from Chloe herself by checking the timestamp and reading the translation to double check my understanding of what she's actually saying, it seems as though she was told to do it and didn't have it in her to really stand her ground to say no. She probably didn't have the energy and will to go through a big disagreement with whoever was in charge at the time so it's definitely also a cultural thing, but jeez.

>>90700087
This is a lie. Holomems are not overworked. Never have been. Management is super accommodating and make sure that doesn't happen. Never mind having to work while having COVID. Bullshit.

>>90701042
>muh rona
fuck off phasecuck

>>90704082
At around 33:00 onward, Chloe talks about how a mane-chan was comforting and reassuring her like a motherly figure. I'm left confused. So was this the same manager, and thus the manager was being strict on her in the recording and comforting after the damage was done? Or was the person in charge at the recording studio different from the mane-chan she's talking about?

>>90704243
That was in the past not present

>>90704387
Record session manager must be different her private manager.

>>90704136
She's 100% talking about her own manager. That much is clear from the VOD. Managers in mixing studios don't have the power or influence to force someone into recording.

Nijisanji doesn't outsource all recording to a different studio and some have talked about going to record at the Niji studio so it's probably the same with Hololive.

>>90701954
>>90702528
why did you stop translating at the point where she explained that her messaging wasn't indicating her intention, and that they rescheduled when she explicitly asked for a new date? didn't fit your narrative well enough?

>>90700087
Release the full song, Whorca.

>>90704489
>had to come in when sick
>was told that she had to record
>was only allowed to reschedule after she was physically unable to record despite managements attempts to force it
Not really a pretty picture

>>90704479
>influence
They fucking can if they have restricted schedule.

>>90700087
SHE IS RESET-ING HER LIFE JUST LIKE HER SONG BASED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxOjRtMv3Cg

>>90704340
>>90704542
the translation here is cherry picked. here's what happened. the recording was moved because she was sick. on the date, her mane-chan says they should try to do the recording. in standard Japanese politeness Chloe agrees and shows up at the studio. what follows is the translation above where they have a bad recording session and a similar thing happens the next day where Chloe agrees to try to do the recording

what happens after that is >>90704489. Chloe realized that she needed to actually refuse recording and ask for a reschedule, and they did

in Japan the threshold for taking a "sick day" is extremely high. if you show up then other people expect you to do the work, and it would actually be rude for them to ask Chloe to go home

>>90700087
Literally worse than when arabs enslaved african chaos people and shipped them off to do crime in the Americas.

>>90705048
>arabs
Not quite, but close.

>>90704489
>It's pretty bad what they're asking us to do in the state, and I think we can usually make something better on a different day.
>29:53 I just sent in a request for a reconsideration at the time, okay, Tarahan, and we ended up with a different date.
>30:02 :But it was another day, but my throat was completely fucked up from the recording of those two stations, and so today, I've been feeling a little bit better since yesterday
> I've been thinking about it for a long time, but I'm not sure what's really going on
> 31:22 : I don't know, but in the end... you know what people are like, you know what they are like. I thought, “Well, maybe it's me who didn't take care of me.
> 31:34: I should have been a little more forceful from the beginning.
> 31:41 :I thought that maybe she didn't understand... and maybe she couldn't understand my physical condition.
> 31:51: I'm not laughing, I'm just saying that it's really impossible. I'm really impossible... so... I can't do it... be like a knife... I learned this time that you have to make it look like you can be like a knife.
> I'm not sure if it's just that I'm not the right person for it or if I'm not the right person for the way I do it.
>32:20: It's not that this way of doing things is wrong, it's just that I don't know what I should be doing and what I should be doing.
> 32:35 But I think that the hill is not the right place for me.I have to change my way of doing things.
>32:51: I also thought that I would like the people around me to change a little more.
> 32:58: But I was reassured Mane-chan was on my side.
> 33:05: I'm glad that Mane-chan is a mother and has a child. She's like a mother to me because she's a mother and she's there for me. So I felt really comfortable with her.
I felt really comfortable with her, and I think she's an amazing person.Mane-chan said everything I was thinking before I said it, but...
>33:34: It's like things are not going to work out this way. And why is that?
>33:52: I really did think that, and I thought that I had a lot of things to think about.
> I'm really thinking about how I'm going to change things, and how I'm going to change myself.
> 34:10: I'm the one who changes it, I'm the one who changes it, I'm the one who changes this

Sounds like it was management but not her personal manager. Them agreeing to reschedule doesn't really change that they forced her to go in and record in the first place. It took her throwing up everywhere and a huge argument to reschedule even though Chloe had a bad case of rona

>>90705165
>though Chloe had a bad case of rona
She didn't have the bug. It was 10 days after being cleared but she obviously has still sequels.

>>90703207
Why are businessmen retarded. Whether they force her to sing or not, they are not getting a usable recording. Just fucking send her home, you dumb sunk cost fallacy morons. You're not getting a halfway decent recording and you're not getting your studio time costs back.

>>90704951
You're ignoring the fact that Chloe said she HAD to go in for recording and already told the other managers that she was sick and couldn't sing the songs but they ignored her. The translation flops between "he" and "she" so it's clearly not just the same manager. Nothing implies Chloe went in because she wanted to

>>90705376
>Just fucking send her home
They do, then she tried the next day and happen the same. And the her manager told her to take more time to rest. Stop knee jerking

>>90705485
Next day? If Chloe tells them she's good to come in tomorrow tell her she's a fucking retard and there's no way she'll be better by then and schedule it next week.

>>90705485
They didn't. She said her voice was fucked up after that day then she went home and cried in bed. She even started despairing over her being forced to do another take. Literally nothing implies that they let her go home. They just rescheduled after they forced her to show up and she started throwing up everywhere then proceeded to sing like shit. It's nowhere near as benevolent as you're trying to argue it is

>>90705552 (me)
Seriously if I found out someone let her schedule it for the next fucking day I'd have them fired. Why the fuck would they risk shitting a SECOND day of recording studio costs down the drain? Holy fucking incompetence.

>dude, don’t tell them what to do
>wtf why didn’t you tell them what to do!
Fishing for a Final Yab in an empty communal pool has got to be the most NDF behavior, aside from stockshit.

>>90705415
>Chloe said she HAD
How did she "said" HAD: ないわけにはいかない, ねばならない, なくてはいけない, はず. There are a nuance in the wording and without that the tone change wildly.

>>90705736
That all happened in one day. The day she streamed, she asked for a reschedule. They forced her to go in and forced her to record even though she said she couldn't and that it was basically impossible. The only thing she blamed herself for is not standing up for herself more.

Them agreeing to reschedule after she shows up and starts vomiting non-stop isn't a good thing. They shouldn't have even had her go in the studio in the first place

>>90705376
Something about time constraints or whatever. I saw someone in her comments try arguing that her being sick would "interfere with other people's schedules" or some shit.

>>90700087
Covid is literally not real so I don't give a shit.

>oh no, the exact same background noise bugs that have been giving people generic illnesses and symptoms for TIME IMMEMORIAL, however will I survive???

Try not being gay.

>>90705954
>starts vomiting non-stop isn't a good thing
Does she said she throw up or that she felt like throw up?
Asking for someone that actually understand the language and don't read from this shitty TL

>>90706147
>Chloe crying in bed after being abused at work while dying of a virus
>This retard: "Maybe she should stop being such a pussy"

>>90706355
If you believe everything you hear, people will start lying in order to manipulate you.

>>90706310
>I told him I was going to throw up and he said let's take a break and I was like, “I don't think so, I'm going to throw up. I'm going to take a break, and I'm going to throw up, and then I'm going to take another

How much of the stocks do you own? I don't think you can even speak English

>>90703918
Currently saying that the translations are fake or that Chloe is just being pathetic

>holofags: NIJIFAGS OSHI THE COMPANY
>holofags when a holo leaves due to retarded management (which we know is a fact): I HATED THAT LAZY FUCKING WHORE AND I WILL NEVER WATCH HER AGAIN

>>90703918
>自分の体調管理がしっかりできなかったことから起因する状況を運営のせいにするのはおかしいでしょ
>Isn't it strange to blame the management for a situation that resulted from not being able to properly manage your own health?

>>90706578
They've been doing this every since Sana bailed

>>90706675
LMAO NO FUCKING WAY

>>90706069
>time constraints
Setting aside why allegedly important enough to force someone to sing with a dead throat was left to the last fucking minute, this is still sunk cost fallacy.
The deadline is already fucked. It's over. Call it in and say it can't be done right fucking now because it can't. Every moment these incompetent fucks waste trying to force a song out of her is a moment they didn't give to their higher ups to prepare for it not being done on time.
This is the sort of incompetence people should be fired on the spot over.

>>90706675
Jesus fucking Christ

>>90706433
Again, someone that could tell if she is saying that she is went to throw up or that she felt like was going to throw up

>>90703849
>DOES mean

>inb4 typo
No takebacksies fag

>>90706675
Even if it was just Chloe pushing herself too hard (it wasn't), it is absolutely management's responsibility to ensure talents don't end up ruining their own health. Not only from an ethical perspective but even from a simple business perspective of increasing the talent's longevity as a performer.

>>90706795
I'm going to throw up" means "I'm going to throw up". She said she started to feel nauseous and started having bad coughing fits during the song. It's pretty blatant that she was throwing up in the studio. If you think the translator got it coincidentally wrong that many times, I don't know what to tell you

>>90706675
>Shouldn't have caught COVID if you have work, pussy

The Japanese truly live up to their reputation

>>90706675
based

>>90706918
Seriously. Where I live businesses get big mad and put major infractions on your employee record if you're a dumbass who comes in sick and/or in a state incapable to do your work. Obviously, they would also send you home straight away and refuse to allow you to do any work whatsover.

>>90701240
It is what it is. Holodrones are literally sisters who worship a different corpo

>>90706934
So you don't understand japanese and just blindly following the translation. Got it.

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>>90702528
>Don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry

>>90707224
Ever met a woman before? Additionally, ever seen one work in a mine before?

>>90707276
>working for Cover is like working in a mine

>>90707218
>The translator is wrong

The translator gives a good gist of what happened and Chloe never once said she chose to record knowing she was too sick to sing. There wouldn't be a need to use a translator if clippers didn't try covering this up.

>>90707381
I can see how you, an opportunist, would say that, but I’ve never met a woman that does truly hard labor.

>>90707489
wat about grocery shop work

>>90707426
Is it an intentional coverup from the clippers? After all, wouldn't they reasonably conclude that clipping this would be 'malicious' thus not allowed by cover and likely to get their channel closed?
Only a dramanigger channel could risk clipping this.

>>90707426
I'm asking a very fine detail about the translation. Keep moving if you are not going to give an answer.

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I've seen this episode before

>>90707489
Maybe go outside then. Plenty of women do labor intensive jobs.

>>90700087
fubuki lied to us again..

>>90707611
That could be the case but I doubt that Hololive would actually take down videos of clips that make them look bad. I'd say it's the clippers themselves ignoring it to try sweeping it under the rug

>>90707659
Blindly saying the translation is wrong isn't asking for details. It's ignoring the details and asking them from someone else. Translations almost always give a good idea of what someone's saying

Gotta love that guy who pretends to know enough Japanese to criticize the translation, but can't be bothered to check the stream and listen to what she says.

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>>90701954
>>90702528

I remember one of the holostars said Chloe is a type of girl that should not be trusted, when she debuted
what was that all about

>>90708063
he got raped

>>90708046
Why is this taB a nobody while the obnoxious filijank is everywhere?

>>90707489
I don’t fault you for speaking in ignorance since you probably genuinely don’t know any better. But dollars to donuts you live in an affluent first world country and have never travelled to poorer places. When you’re impoverished it’s all hands on deck gender be damned.

>>90708063
She smelled that bad

>>90701954
>>90702528
>>90705165

Hi, I am Japanese and will give a full translation of what Chloe is saying; a lot of it is mostly accurate.

20:07
I thought my cough had decreased a little, but the next day, for some reason, it increased again, and I was like, "What is going on?" But then I thought, "It did decrease a bit today, didn’t it?" Yet I was coughing excessively again. Right now, it’s the same; my nose is stuffy, and I have phlegm stuck in my throat, causing me to cough.

20:15
The cough seems to happen because of phlegm; it gets caught between my throat and esophagus.

20:34
It feels like I’m drowning, making me gag and cough, but I’ve recovered enough that I only cough when there’s phlegm. Back then, though, it was so bad that I was coughing almost 24/7, except when I was asleep, though maybe I was coughing even then. It was like a never-ending cough.

20:58
Then, it settled down a bit, only to worsen again the next day. At that point, I thought, "This is hopeless. This must be serious." But I had to go to a recording session.

21:17
At the recording session, I had to record two songs. I honestly didn’t even know if I could do one. I was told, "Let’s give it a try," so I went ahead and recorded.

21:41
My coughing was so severe that I worried about infecting others. They said after 10 days of COVID, it’s okay to be around people, as the virus supposedly weakens by then. That day was my 11th day, so I hoped it would be okay.

22:11
I no longer had nausea, but singing brought out the cough. The more I sang, the more I coughed, and the coughing made me feel nauseous. I was afraid I’d vomit, so I asked for a break. After about five minutes, we resumed recording.

22:51
I barely managed to record the two songs, but honestly, the quality was awful. My voice was weak, I coughed too much, and the timing was off. I hated it. I didn’t want to release such poor-quality recordings, but I had no choice.

23:23
Afterward, my voice was hoarse. The next day, I was told there was another recording session, but I refused, saying, "I physically can’t do it."

24:07
Even though I explained my condition, they kept pushing. I proposed various solutions, but they insisted. I thought, "If I record in this state, the quality will be terrible, and I’ll harm my vocal cords."

25:07
They suggested we at least try the recording and see how it goes, but I argued it was pointless. Using my voice for the recording would leave me unable to do anything else afterward. I strongly insisted it wasn’t feasible.

26:07
Despite my protests, they continued pushing. I understood they had a schedule to keep, but I felt they weren’t considering my health or the quality of the work.

27:13
Eventually, I became mentally and physically exhausted, thinking, "Why don’t they treat this like a proper product? Why are they risking my health for this?" I cried when I got home because it was so overwhelming.

28:04
I realized I need to be more assertive. This time, I was stronger than usual, but I still consider others’ feelings too much. I didn’t want to hurt anyone, but in the end, it didn’t benefit anyone.

29:03
I told them the current situation wasn’t good for anyone. It would be better to record on another day when I was healthier to produce better results. They finally agreed to reschedule.

So, Chloe is describing her struggles with severe coughing and health issues from COVID while still being pressured to attend recording sessions. Despite her condition, she was compelled to record two songs, resulting in subpar quality and further strain on her health. Chloe also highlights her frustration with the lack of consideration for her health and the quality of work, ultimately advocating for herself to reschedule future recordings. This experience made her realize the importance of standing her ground more firmly in such situations.

So in general, this makes management look VERY bad

>>90708538
thank you, japanese-san

>>90708238
The insular ones are the examples I’ve seen in common sectors, anon. They consider “backbreaking labor” to be standing on your feet for a few hours, whereas anyone that’s slaved away at three grueling jobs a day might disagree.

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>>90708538
>Hololive Management was literally going to risk Chloe's fucking life for those two songs

>>90708538
>I am Japanese
Proof next thread?

>>90708044
Reminds me of the Dragon Quest interview where the jap guy criticizes America for making him change the designs.
The cope is that it's a "mistranslation".

>>90708736
How should he prove he's Japanese?

>>90708538
So the translator was essentially accurate. Thanks for the translation, Japanese anon

>>90708538
This isn't a good look for cover, what if chloe actually died from that?

>>90708848
Walk outside and timestamp something certifiably Japanese.

>>90709049
Seems like an awful lot of effort just to shut up a bootlicker. The translator says so and Japanese person says so. Stop the cope

>>90708956
They would've...COVERed it up

>>90709122
>seems like an awful lot of effort
I see you are truly the champion of labor.

>>90709278
>Go outside, take a picture of something in Japanese and timestamp it to prove you can speak Japanese.
>The translator is lying by the way

Are you being paid for your labor?

>>90709323
He claimed to be Japanese, not simply to speak Japanese. Those are two entirely different things.

>>90708956
Probably some vague PR post which includes zero details on what they did

>>90709428
He also translated which proves he can speak Japanese. This is getting more retarded as it goes on

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>>90700087
kek

>>90704421
Do you think manager is 1 person? There are plenty of example like Towa or Lamy don't like their manager and ask them to be changed and they did, multiple times even

>>90707144
I couldn't imagine someone being forced to come in even though they have Corona. That'd be plastered all over the local news

>>90709049
>Walk outside and dox yourself so I can send lawyers to your house to sue for slander.
Nice try faggot

>>90707144
nta but where I'm from you get fired or demoted if you take too much sick leave and you are supposed to work unless ur literally dying

>>90709912
Are you Korean?

>>90709936
nah, polish

>>90709912
Where I live companies are forced to pay out all your unused sick leave when you quit, so companies try to get you to spend as much as possible whenever they can.

>>90704358
HOLOSEETHE

>>90709614
Israel?

>>90702615
LOL you must be 12. Sorry kiddo it's actually not. Welcome to the real world :D

>>90709912
Sounds fucking dystopian

>>90700441
It means you become a living, walking funko-pop with no identity of your own, but don't have to pay the graduation fees.

>>90710392
>but don't have to pay the graduation fees.
Proof?

>>90710435
I made it up.
But if there are studio cancellation fees, why wouldn't there be graduation fees?

>>90710235
Legally, you are not required to go into work. If they punish you for refusing to go to work because you have Corona. That would endanger literally everyone in the building since everyone could catch it too

>>90710578
>anon's first time learning about Japanese work culture
cute.

>>90710716
Endangering the lives of every person in my workplace so I can deliver substandard crap that needs to be redone anyway is my proud national culture.

>>90710988
>Endangering the lives of every person in my workplace
If your life would be in danger from a flu you should be in retirement and not working

>>90710578
There's plenty of companies out there that adopt the fuck around till they find out mentality. It only stops when they can't get away with it.

>>90709900
Okay, then he isn’t Japanese.

>>90711073
Imagine catching the fucking flu because your retarded boss decided it was a good idea to fish out a sick employee to work all day. Even if it wasn't the corona virus, you'd still be pissed

>>90710521
I honestly can't tell if you're pretending or not

>>90711261
Ever worked before? That’s what makes the world go round.

>>90711261
I unironically worked for a shithole that forced me to come to the office with AC that made me sick every fucking time but I don't live in Japan or anything like that

Reminder that Mike Cat went insane because she was forced to record a concert after her pet died

>>90711340
Rushia was always right and I'm tired of pretending she wasn't

>>90711340
Yeah, surely had nothing to do with being the biggest menhera ever and getting caught on-air with the alien.

Holosharts only care about the brand.

>>90711420
Well. She said it was because of Holo. You can't blame everything on the gay alien

>>90711464
Okay, I’ll blame her and him, then.

>>90711420
She actually used to be sorta normal

>>90704951
You may think you are correcting the record with this post but you are just showing how heartless and cold JP culture is with all its ‘social norms’ and ‘politeness’
If more shit like this comes out, we are gonna have another EN vs JP fanbase war like what happened with Aloe at this rate…

>>90711316
In a country with proper laws, a company wouldn't get away with getting all their employees sick

>>90700087
Thank god this happened under hololive so the western vtuber community can keep petending all is well and keep on spending.

Black company

>>90701930
You ever wondered where the niji staff went after the black stream? Hololive. Considering how much yagoo likes being buddy buddy with niji despite everything.

>>90708956
>what if chloe actually died from that?
Nothing. Holodrones don't care.

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>>90709975
Dianko country mentioned

>>90711628
Nah, it's okay. The larper was proven wrong by two different translations so he can't even blame "JP culture"

>>90709213
CARLOS!

>>90711663
We have proper laws where I live, yet it still happens in small companies. Not because it's financially viable or a good business decision. But simply because managers of small companies are generally the most utterly retarded people on the planet and will critically understaff their companies to the point where everything is constantly falling apart at the seams and it's costing them roughly three times the amount of money it'd take to hire a new worker in dead weight loss due to stressed workers, training and hiring costs to replace the insane turnover rates, overtime hours, etc.
Such critically understaffed companies will literally collapse on the fucking spot if someone doesn't come into work because their managers can't plan for shit. They generally solve this through a combo of forcing workers to tough it out and/or forcing them to secure their own replacements if they call in sick.
Every now and then someone will crack and report it and the whole thing gets obliterated by the government, but laws can't stop people from being utterly retarded at management.

Have youtubefags and xfags known about this incident yet?

>>90712269
Holo clippers don't clip Holo drama. Maybe Twitter caught on but I wouldn't know

>>90711672
Holodrones will just bury their heads in the sand

>>90712087
Wouldn't be the first time Hololive gets obliterated by the government

>>90708666
Looks like Yagoo finally got his idol dream

And to think I consider Korea's idol culture as worse than Japan's

I wonder what other bullshit Hololive has done that the drones just covered up to pretend it never happened

>>90713470
Mel was raped by her manager.

>>90713215
It might be a Hololive exclusive issue

>>90701042
>>90700087
how do you even record if you have rona? it destroys your voice

>>90713792
I've heard of it in 2020 when Hololive was still getting traction overseas. I have a feeling that the manager is still there.

>>90714083
You don't. Clearly she was not singing very well and by her own account, she could barely talk without coughing her lungs out

>>90714163
well it's Japan, you need to outsource quitting company to a special service there because you will be shamed and made to read apology letter before workforce, for quitting
it's mind boggling for Westerners but is a norm for them
company is clan and they expect loyalty

>>90714118
Probably just got moved to a talent who keeps her mouth shut like a good idol does.

>>90713792
I believe it

>SISTERSSSSSS CHLOE WAS FORCED TO WORK WHILE SHE HAD THE COOOOF ITS LE END
cope and seethe
FBK already debunked this, it's time to stop giving the time of day to these lazy whores

>>90714258
>company is clan and they expect loyalty
expect loyalty for wages that an american make while flipping burgers
such a defeated nation

>>90714710
their productivity is shit outside of sweatshops like toyota conveyor belts
yes they expect 12 hours shifts 6 days a week but most of the time they are procrastinating
yes the overtime is expected to meet the deadline but if you average your actual working hours a week, it would barely get to 20

>>90714672
>Fubootlicker

>>90701954
>>90702528
Let's be honest how hard could it be to record some lines? You're not an oil rig technician or construction worker, you have the easiest job of all time and you can't even do it.
Why would any self respecting man support you when you're so entitled and spoiled? If hololive is now filtering all the incompetent and lazy retards then I'm all up for it just like fauna who quit because it's hard to find vegan restaurants when flying abroad, what a spoiled cunt it makes me angry to see these women waste time and resources like that.

>>90714948
Pretty hard to record lines when you can't speak

Hololive is beginning to look more like a sleazy, ruthless cult these days. Things like that are covered up and because there's not enough backlash there's no improvement.

>>90714948
>just record some vocals, how hard can that be?
>coughing constantly
>nauseous and trying to not throw up
>results are unsatisfactory
>YOU LAZY CUNT THIS IS THE EASIEST JOB IN THE WORLD

>>90715252
It's honestly so funny how there could be big pressure applied on cover i the western sphere didn't collectively decide to put cover as gods and niji as the devil. Happens in other industries as well where brand fanatism leads to everyone getting a worse deal.

>>90700087
Are we still pretending the cold is real in fucking 2024? Jesus Christ.

>>90712584
Clipping it and risk getting on Cover's bad side? Not a chance, buddy

>>90715189
>>90715383
You have a contract to fulfill, take a cough drop, drink some water and make a million dollars in 5 minutes. IT'S THAT FUCKING EASY.
Kill yourselves for excusing this lazy behavior it literally takes no time to do voice work BECAUSE ITS NOT REAL WORK

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>>90715917
Calm down, Foobs
Her throat is her most important asset

>>90716011
>Her throat is her most important asset
My penis agrees

>>90715762
Dramafags won't even take the easy views. They truly do lack a backbone

>>90715252
Hololive being caught abusing artists was the first sign of trouble and the first sign of how cultish the community is

>>90711715
Kurolive

>>90700441
It means you're giving hololive permission to train an AI on your voice and content. It won't be meant for full replacement. The character still stops streaming. But it will make the occasional appearance for merch purposes.

>>90706675
Holodrones...

JUSTICE FOR SAKAMATA

>>90715591
Schizos have convinced themselves that the cold isn't real

>>90702169
How long will you cope

>>90718374
wow took you long enough to give me another (YOU), i already had a good rest

>>90701140
*Inserts my finger in your mouth*
:)
*cums because it's actually my very small pp*
*Pulls out wedding ring*

>>90714856
So Japan work culture is a meme?

>>90700087
>hired to be an idol
>doesn't want to sacrifice everything to be one
you were never going to make it as one, sakamata.

Don't care
Didn't read
Whores are purging themselves

YAGOO WON
Hololive WON

>>90700087
>maxresdefault (1)
>?si=

>>90719226
Was this Yagoo's end goal?

>>90700087
So, I went through most of it, and...
Yeah a lot of what she said is basically what she was THINKING and never really SAID that to their face.
Suisei would've been like
> yo fuck off this is dogshit quality, I'm sick, we're doing this later

>>90700087
Evil fucking company

>>90719699
She straight up told them that she was going to vomit and they told her to suck it up

>>90719811
clearly not in a strong enough tone

>>90701240
>"And you lynch negroes"
Whataboutism is thirdie tactics.

>>90703918
Management need to put more leeway into holo schedules.
One or two days of sickness shouldn't cause such drastic changes in scheduling that you have to force talents to record in consecutive days.
And even in that case, they should've sucked it up, told her to go back and rest, dogeza'd to whoever they were contracted for those songs and compensated the money if there was any loss from their own pocket.

I can no longer believe all the "talent first" bullshit if such type of people are working in Cover.

>let's just hold up our million-dollar recording session because a talent got sick

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>>90706675
>"Just don't get sick you pussy, you're letting the whole team down"
What Jap collectivist culture does to a mf.

>>90720192
Yes? Because them being sick threatens the rest of the workplace and strenous action can also lead to permanent lung damage for the sick person, costing the company even more money than that.

>>90720192
>Everyone in the studio also catches the virus
Great job, businessman-sama

>>90720209
That looks uncomfortable

>>90707144
I wish I live where you live. My old boss got angry at me for missing work when I had to go in for surgery.

>>90715762
It's sad clippers actually think like this

>>90700677
What could possibly be the final Yab? Rushia attempted suicide, they were caught breaking the law by the government and Chloe was wheeled out while she was dying of disease to cough into a microphone

The amount of clueless retards in this thread is hilarious. You think Japanese keemstars who got weeks of content out of Aqua's graduation wouldn't have jumped on this if it was significant? There is literally nothing a Japanese person would consider about this exchange of events as black.
Mane-chan: Let's not cause conflict with the team, I'll recommend doing the recording
Chloe: Let me not cause conflict with the schedule, I'll go to the recording
Studio: JESAS this bitch is FUCKED, but telling her to go home would be insulting her decision to come in. Let's not cause conflict

Was Chloe treated poorly? Yes.
Does this look black compared to Western standards? Absolutely. More power to Chloe for getting the fuck out. I hate working with Japanese corporate clients too.
Isn't this a smoking gun? lol, lmao even. But maybe try sending it to your favorite SEA drama clipper. This thread seems popular enough for the unaware masses.

>>90721669
Yagoo is of chinese descent and a part of the moon church.

>>90721995
But Chloe outright said she was forced to go by management though

>>90709122
i'm mongolian and i have sex with covers managers
also elon is my best friend

>>90722352
Everything is true except the Elon part

>>90721995
Were you one of the bootlickers in the comments?

>>90714672
I wonder how many antis she's gained just because of that one post that probably had nothing to do with any drama

>>90706675
I wonder if this mentality persists even if someone gets run over

>>90715533
Brand loyalty is basically just retards hyping up whatever team they like more

>>90707224
They broke her

>>90722348
And you believe lies why exactly? If that were true, she'd be terminated, not affiliated.

>>90724936
>If cover was really black, she'd have been fired for exposing them
Kek

>>90707923
She actually saids 吐きそう which is more akin to "feel like throw up" that a categorical statement of doing it.

>>90724936
It's almost like they like money

>>90714083
You can have some weak version of it, it just increases your body temperaturea and you feel weak. And then in few month body might start falling apart a little bit (or not little).

>>90725600
Whether or not she projectile vomited everywhere doesn't really matter

I'm assuming the one pushing was the one that works at the recording studio? They need to nix the retard ASAP, not only because he kept pushing (which pushed Chloe over the edge), but also, because he didn't mind that she was delivering a bad product. It'd probably be a good idea to axe her manager too. Had they pushed along with Chloe (and possibly harder), the situation might've not even come to this point.
And even if the roles are switched, both are still at fault: one for being too aggressive and the other for not being aggressive enough when pushing back. I don't want to consider the chance that both were the aggressive force, but I know that I shouldn't discount it as a possibility.
I hope that, at the very least, this will serve as a cautionary tale for the rest of the girls, so they'll grow a backbone (if they don't have one already) in order to push back when their health is at risk.

>>90727117
No, because if she actually threw up in the studio she will be dismissed immediately. Like this guy said >>90721995 japanese autism in these cases is very strong. If someone said she can do a task while feeling sick you don't attempt to stop it because you are making the other look bad.

>>90721995
>You think Japanese keemstars who got weeks of content out of Aqua's graduation wouldn't have jumped on this if it was significant?
That's probably the biggest argument for me. Dramaniggers are like sharks. They can smell the blood in the water from a mile away.

>>90727325
She said she couldn't and they forced her. This cope is stupid

>>90727222
The person that works at the recording studio IS Hololive staff/management. They have their own studio and I'm pretty sure the girls have talked about going there for recordings

>>90727646
>>90721995
>>You think Japanese keemstars
If you're talking about Korekore, he only comes after big youtubers or companies IF he gets asked by the victim directly to speak for them (See Rushia) OR he gets a tip/leak from the parties directly involved.
He is not like nousagi faggot or that purple cunt that just passively regurgitates shitposts from 4chan without ever having anything with the people involved.

>>90721995
>>90727646
When the hell did krkr get content out of Aqua's graduation???
The most he did was baiting people on Twitter that one time so he could promote his newest video and his friend's album. And then call the people who fall for it retards

>>90728639
Shameful for people to act like Korekore is anywhere near as much as a view hungry dramafag as Purple Keemstar

>>90726405
I don't think that's corona

>>90708666
Management was risking not only Chloe's life, but also others since she had a contagious disease.

>>90729315
Bu..but the two songs though

>>90708538
Holy fuck Jesus christ

>>90722055
This explains him kneeling to China again

>>90710392
>don't have to pay anything
>get free money for not doing a single thing
That's a win win. Unless you have have a bad relationship with managers or staff, there's no reason not to take it.

>>90701240
Niji is a rotting carcass at this point. There's nothing there but shreds of fetid "meat" for the most desperate vultures.
Nobody cares anymore. We had the graduation queue confirmed, all that's left is to wait for them all to bleed out.

>>90730494
>We had the graduation queue confirmed

Hi, False

>>90701930
We sure are getting a lot of mileage out of this video

>>90730354
Even the girls with bad relationships with staff decided to become affiliates though

>>90730745
Which makes those who don't take it from now on even more suspicious. It's basically the perfect golden handshake and goodbye, whereby both parties benefit.

>>90730874
It seems pretty obvious to me.
>Quit
Affiliate. Both sides still benefit
>Get fired/let go/pushed out
Graduate. You get nothing from existing merch sales.
>Get terminated
Talent fucked up, Cover has some actual incident to point to for immediate termination.

>>90731131
Getting fired is getting terminated

>>90731294
>Hurrr durrr getting fired is all the same thing no matter what
Underage faggots need to fucking keep quiet already.

>>90731371
They have contracts. They get fired if the contract gets terminated.

>>90731131
Graduating is the honourable thing to do and Fauna is White and White people has a culture that puts emphasis on acting honourably

>>90731488
No shit, but a vtuber termination is something different entirely. Being fired is also not the same as being fired "on the spot" which is what a termination actually is. Graduations have always been the default if a talent quit or got fired unless they actually fucked up, or are you planning to tell me Coco totally quit voluntarily?

>>90731601
She did

>>90729169
I did those tests (both blood and those throat swab) and it was. And many collegues did the same and it was. Maybe those tests were false. But I had never experienced anything like it before or after and symptoms (and tests) were similar to everyone who got it.

>>90700087
NijiSEETHE

>>90700087
Hi Bint, what Nijisanji did this time?
https://x.com/NBinted/status/1863003098169676190

>>90731529
The honourable thing would be to not quit. Stay with the company that gave you your big break and stick by your genmates.

>>90716011
Can someone who speaks Japanese tell me why this isn't some cold blooded psychopath shit and just a mistranslation?

>>90732906
It's probably just a poorly timed tweet with her blissfully unaware of all the drama

>>90727897
There's a difference between the talent's manager and staff/management. And yes, I know it's their own studio, that's why I said they should fire them first and foremost.

>>90732318
You are asian or brown

>>90732318
Irys typed this

I would quit too. Shit like this in never worth the money.
Cover is at fault for not being able to protect their talents, but considering the Japanese, they'll stay in the "it can't be helped" mentality and not learn anything.
That mindset is sure to guarantee a big yab one day.

>>90700441
It means they had anime or projects involving them and didn't piss them off enough for the talent to turn them down just to have zero connection to the company anymore

>>90733884
>almost irremediably get her voice damaged because of Omegay
Why the fuck are you bringing IRyS up of all people?

>>90700087
kurolive is real...

>>90700441
chloes model is too much sex to just throw away

>>90734047
Talents shitting on management before didn't stop them from shitting on Fauna now

>>90732038
>how do i make this about nijisanji
rent free

>>90729315
>risking Chloe's life
She was having nausea and a cough. That is hardly life threatening.

>>90735353
Nausea when she is infected with a respiratory disease is not a good sign.

>>90733108
Saying you have so much free time you're bored and that laziness is a disease immediately after your coworker quits and cites overwork is at best a very strange thing to do. Then in person the only thing she said was I hope she can be happy and continue to work at her own pace, which is a subtle indication she's slow or leisurely. It isn't really drama to be aware of a coworker quitting and their reasons for doing so, Fubuki knows the context.

I'm willing to chalk it up to mistranslation but even on the jp aside they are a little weirded out by it.

>>90730562
michi even says that she doesn't know better because asian work culture all she's ever known, so she keeps divulging these stories that she knows were probably bad but doesn't realize until someone reacts to her how bad they actually are. while clearly anycolor is the worse company, I have no doubt that a lot of the bullshit practices that she mentions are also implemented at cover but just not to the same extent

>>90736097
Looking at the entirety of the internet these past 2 days i don't see any difference between holofans and nijisisters. It's exactly the same talking points and cope

>>90736614
>my oshi says you need to stop doomposting so hard about how hololive is being run, and that she's fine despite all the hardships
is exactly the same talking point as
>selen was an attention whore who wanted to burn niji to the ground because of her tantrum and is just faking her suicide attempt

>>90736614
Sisters keep downplaying bullying and attempted suicide along with organs earning nothing.

>>90708538
Cover has a long history of treating Hololive talents like garbage when they are sick but that definitely explains why Chloe decided to leave.

>>90736758
Let's be real for a second. If Selen had gotten her "neutral terms" graduation (which this Fauna graduation somewhat feels like), then nobody would have even known that bullying and suicide happened.
Yes Niji might be bad and a black company, but inbetween Pomu and Selen when the membership stuff leaked the sisters were acting the exact same way you guys are.
Actually, let me ask a question: If it's somehow revealed that Fauna tried to kill herself, do you really think there still wouldn't be holo defenders?

>>90737111
Actually, niji fans were already suspecting all that when both Pomu and Selen were clearly getting fucked over by the company, and considering how Mint has been doing she probably would've spilled the beans soon enough. So far notAqua and notAme have had nothing bad to say, and the only reason the holos are showing up to say all these things is because their fans are plastering their socials with "ARE YOU OK? BLINK TWICE IF YOU'RE BEING HELD HOSTAGE".

>>90737336
The biggest reason for that is that Affiliate was shilled heavily the previous day on how it's such a win-win for everyone only for Fauna to outright refuse it.
If it was an Affiliate graduation, nobody would care as much and it's still pretty baffling why she would refuse if it was a simple management issue

>>90701240
>wah wah nijisanji wah wah nijiseethe wah
I love seeing you holobronies get so mindbroken

>>90737111
Unless Selen disappeared, it would have been obvious that she was miserable and her absence + silence would raise red flags.
It's very unlikely for Fauna to leave just as broken as even Pomu, let alone Selen.

>>90737336
It's more telling that fucking Rushia had nothing bad to say

>>90737651
>be vegan
>give your IP to company
>they use your IP to shill the new mcdouble bacon beef and cheese burger

>>90736758
agreed. and while again anycolor is still worse for multiple reasons, looking at how this board reacts to holo graduations it's a couple days of "wow there must be some real issues if she's leaving" and then swaps to "she was an ungrateful whore and always toxic, good riddance". very similar excuses to what nijifans gave. I don't watch talent from either company so it's even more obvious

>>90737651
Affiliate is a hand wave to say, there are still project with her in production that would be released after. The fact doesn't have that label simply means that she hasn't nothing on the works. Which tracks with the rrat of not waiting to travel to Japan to record and do 3D things.
>>90737788
Mike probably would kill people for real if that is her chance to return to be Rushia again.

>>90737954
>she was an ungrateful whore and always toxic, good riddance
The only ones pushing that are the most obvious sisters falseflagging. The general mood is sucks to sucks.

>>90737954
>I don't watch talent from either company so it's even more obvious
it should come as no surprise that you're falling for such incredibly obvious falseflagging then. nobody in holo splits nor in global are saying that except falseflagging shitposters who get called out immediately. at best you'll see people saying that they trust their own oshi when she says she's doing okay even if it's a lot of work.

>>90736758
You literally have people in this thread and Chloe's comment section basically saying
>Dumb bitch shouldn't have gotten sick because it fucks with people's schedules. Be more considerate of the company

What crack are you smoking?

>>90737788
Mike did have bad shit to say, you EOP retard. She almost killed herself over it

>>90741517
>tourist discovers nijinigger falseflagging for the first time
cute

>>90741587
Proof next thread?