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>>90716044*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking>https://vt.poi.cat/Hololive sites>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://holosongs.com/>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/Twitch sites>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/>https://streamscharts.com/
niggas won't bake and then complain about a default kobo thread
oh ffsanyway i think shiori should take a holiday to japan while its cold and biboo and her should get under some blankets and keep each other warm
>>90715818>Ironlung pr department If Fauna ends up in Vshojo then we'll know where all the astroturfs where actually coming from.
>>90716077who are you replying to
this one
>>90716044Fucking Kobo Thread
No Hoshimatic this year, other than for one of Suisei's tour stops, right?
Has vtubing peaked? No new debuts seem to come close to the old guard.
I've been telling you all for years that JPfags basically turned into nijiniggers. It was obvious back during hlzntl when they rushed to defend Cover, only to stop when it turned out actual JOPs were mad too.
>>90716077Yonchan is dying tho...
>>90716143Probably yea
>>90716135no one nigga, do you see any red text in that post?
Sleepy Biboo my beloved...
>used, loose cunny opOH HELL NAH
SHAKA MOGGED
>>90716077kek, i said the same shit when faggots were crying because "muh Ao OP thread"
>>90716146>No new debuts seem to come close to the old guardIt's all according to plan then.
>>90716077i was taking a shit
biboo and fuwamoco are gonna have lots of sleepovers
>Mori flirting with e-celebsWe really are back in 2022 grim times
>>90716195AIEEEEEEEEEE DARUMA-SAMA YOU CAN'T
>>90716237Come up with something new will ya?
>>90716044Dude you could’ve at least not used the same image
>>90716233Advent saving holoEN yet again, this is what it means to be GOLDEN
>>90716237It's fine, multiple JPs (the standard setters) are doing it too.
>>90716237>2022h-huh? but vcr was this year
>virgin, tight cunny opOH HELL YEAH
>>90716233That's hot as fuck
>THE SACRED NUMBERCHAD SANCTUM
>>90716237is this real or nigger cuckposting over konichiwa again?
Biboo doing another 12 new years event like she did last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpmAOd5rVoMkyuuuuuuute can't even tell you how excited about this clip the beggarcords are, her knowing most of their names and what they're about is like utter 100% confirmation to them that all of the girls are talking to them behind the scenes constantly
>>90716389Oh nice, her streams last year were really fun actually.
>>90716403Isn't this old? Why are they freaking out about it now?
>ReGLOSS 3D Live Reach the Tophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYvks57cQA >1st Album "ReGLOSS"https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mchguozrz3dFDusBI-DFmOiDYdKew6Hb4>Feeling Gradation *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=u4uDiV3u-do >セプテンバーさん / September-san (cover) *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQ-npgd2Ok >快晴 / Kaisei (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7QcvdHk70 >青と夏 / Ao To Natsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAk_ZGfvdw >青のすみか / Ao no Sumika (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=efF_c9D-R-A >Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0 >奏 / Kanade (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw >My Dearest (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s >DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg >名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok >Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI >カバー曲 / Cover Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR>歌まとめ / All Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1
>>90716430No, she just did this stream last night
>>90716403kek she's teasing on purpose
>>90716385I checked out her stream and she was in a car with like 4 dudes I didn't recognize and they were all laughing histerically at some jap shit I didn't understand
>>90716392He simply cannot comprehend the holos being anything else but fully funded by the cabal can he?
>>90716389>Move to Japan>StreamNANII?!
>Miko changed game in the middle of the streamI thought ame graduated for this?
>>90716403Wow they're right, she really does know a lot about HolostarsLooks like they got another fan on the inside
>>90716430>numbernigger doesn't watch streamskekaroo
>>90716403the funny thing is the nobody is paying attention to the beggars right now because of the current drama, so this will end up on nothing
>>90716392Is this rider guy some form of troll? Every post of his reads like some reverse unicorn-kyoukai LARPer.
>>90716489depends on the game
>>90716233please invite koyo
>>90716477grossmy own fault for giving her a chance recently
>>90716403>isn't this guy... what his name again?>jutard seahorse on screen>ah i know this one! its Magni!
>>90716536KonKoyo...
>>90716526They can't decide if they want people to connect the current drama to the blue faggot or this
>>90716276because its fucking ennacuck baking these, how oblivious are you?
>>90716489Different frame
>unicorn-kyoukai Discordvermin circlejerks
Biboo is going to stream twice a day now that she is in Japan
Miko is going to address the twitter allegations shortly
>>90716403>who is this one? is it? Oh it's *random shitter*Yeah real big fan when she can barely remember their names
>>90716527He's just insane and a flip
>>90716385she's riding around with a bunch of dudes who i have no idea who they are, singing Black and Yellow by Wiz Khalifa
Where is Scott?
Advent payday2. That will be glorious kek
Make sure to pay your respects to the fastest growing vtuber in the world.
>>90716403>A stream where she talks in detail about talents from all branches including people long graduated like Coco and Sana (because they're there) very briefly.>Also has a heartfelt talk about the current events and the "doomposting". 500 comments on the holo subs and growing btw.>There's already some slight anti-ing toward her starting to form for "bootlicking".>Beggar clips the part talking about DUBAI with the comment section being the usual "Invisible gun and the insta post on the homo sub that probablyy has more traction than anything DUBAI do themselves.How are beggars not the biggest holoantis again?
>>90716403>Shiori announces Ame aquarium tour>"oh she's totally gonna ignore the homo tank haha unichads we're winning so hard">she spends a ton of time going over the homo fish, she knows all of their names and brings up specifically homo moments she's watched>"uhhhhh homo beggars are so pathetic why do they care that she's clearly interested in the homos?? w-we're still winning right bros??"This is just sad lol
/#/ is NOT a billboard for your WHOchuubas.
>>90716610Fauna and Chloe graduating and the resulting shitstorm really rattled them huh?
>>90716527He’s just a very mentally ill NEET in his 30s from flipland
Going camping with Miko
Fauna
>>90716605Do you want to bet she will move her stream to JP hours ,now she doing trial and error
>>90716733
>>90716673>MaaruWait... Isn't that NotChloe ?
>>90716690They can't help themselves as seen below your post
Post your guilty pleasure whochuubas
>>90716731Is she making fun of Riona?
>>90716733The dookie of hololive
Was Kawasaki Sui sub-botting? Her views for her videos, shorts, and streams seem too low for her subscriber count, and her sub growth suddenly sped up one day, and then started slowing back down again as soon as she hit 1 million.
>>90716740Why do you comment on streams you don't even watch
>>90716766
>management tried to stop Biboo from rushing to move to Japan unless she was absolutely sure she wanted toI thought you fags said cover was forcing them to move?
>>90716237let her have this anon, those eggs aren't getting any younger she already think about getting a third cat.
>>90716805If you havent noticed, antis have been spamming /#/ and global for 12 hours
>>90716823Like shitposters here actually understand how Cover works.
>>90716733The Moses of Hololive. May she free and lead her people out of captivity.
>>90716403I mean we pretty much knows she watches the homos behind the scenes since that one Altare 3D stream
>>90716732bullshit but somehow not really farfetch
>>90716673Oh and also the fastest growing US channel in any category.
> Kaela gonna an heroAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Miko is still doing the 400 million yen joke
>>90716044Kobo, the queen of Kaigai, the cutest gaki, the funniest child, the strongest Idol WON BIGLY!
>>90716789who? and yes it looks like bots
>>90716879>having a melty over her fansKEK
>>90716830white girls unity Shiori is honorary white
>>90716733Our queen
>>90716851Yes and we are unironically okay with it as long as she doesn't make their relationship public
Correct thread here ->>90716087>>90716087>>90716087
phasecuck feasting using holo grad news...
>>90716900That would be preferable to what actually happened.
>>90716912fuck off
>>90716823Saplings were really going through the anger stage yesterday, every rrat possible was thrown out.
Miko is going to talk get in fags
>>90716392>pre sankiseiLeast obvious HoloAn
>>90716912>Fauna OPAnti thread.
> The era of the 4 Kings(2018-2020)Kizuna Ai, Kaguya Luna, CyberGirl Shiro, Mirai Akari were the big dogs of vtubing.> Golden Era (2020-2022)Includes Myth mania, The T word drama, and everything up to the grim era> Grim Era(2022 -2023)The fall of Hololive EN and the rise of males in vtubing such as Luxiem> Sliver Era(2023- early 2024)The debut of Advent and Regloss marks the high point of Hololive everybody is happy with little to no drama. Breaking Dimensions, Enreco , and Holofes are huge hits. The collapse of Nijisanji EN and EN small companys has done permeant damage to the industry>Dawn of a new Age(Late 2024-)Hololive lost major talents back to back, Nijisanji is struggling, Vshojo launched Vshojo JP the main vtuber market is in volaille state.
>Miko: I've talked about this in my mengen stream yesterday >Miko: You guys know the thing, that one that has veen on twitter>Miko: *is it about the 400M yen income*>Miko: Yes, and to be frank, it's all true>Miko: If you're in this job, honestly you can't go back>Miko: the nature of the game is to save up as money as possible I don't know where she's going with this, even chat are warning her she's going ro be flamed for this.
well, this general should be slightly better now.
>>90716766Just fapping to them on pixiv count? The blue cunny+redhead short stack kenomimi from nijijp
>>90716905>their relationshipWhat the fuck are you talking about?
>>90716912stop being so late retard, now kys
[Biboo news] People think she is Japanese
>>90716992good...
>>90716992She speaks it well, so I get it. Once she actually learns the language she'll be fine.
>>90716952stfu faggot
>>90716952She's slowly revealing her hand
>>90717029Why so mad?
>>90716733Faufau
>>90716969okbeggarsvtm are saying that she is dating the blue fag and flayggot
Migo addressing the drama again
>>90716673>>90716864Oh, so lemonleaf posting IS allowed ? We can even post lemonleaf clips, right ?
>>90716733Love
>>90717024I find it funny that the japanese can't distinguish between different asians just because they say a word in Japanese. Bae also talked about how people believed that she was Japanese
>>90716766Recently found out panko sounds similar to mumei so ive been watching her
>>90716823>Management doesn't want Biboo to be assimilated into nip culture and losing her edgeI understand...
>>90716912Typo? Your link seems to be dead friend
>>90716733I was able to listen to her ASMR again without feeling too sad
>>90716992Moving to Japan is probably way easier if you're an Asian.
>>90716823It's almost like management saw what happened with fuwamoco and wanted to make sure Biboo was prepared.
>>90717058Pull up the usual webm come on, like isn't being posted thousands of time already, don't forget to samefag "lily...."
>>90716691That's the funny thing. She spend less time in the homo tank than over ID and she didnt even know the name of the majority of the homos. Her chat had to tell her 6/10 times. The only one she actually recognized were Shien, Robert, Groombullet and Shinri
>Miko: And the other thing too>Miko: About Chloe's suspension of activity >Miko: as well as Fauna's graduation shortly after>Miko: And everyone being shocked with the news>Miko: To be honest I was too when I heard the news>Miko: And because of that I can understand why people felt anxious and concerned of what's going on in the company
>>90716823A lot of things have been revealed in these last 24 hours, especially about bts work
FAUMINT LOVE! FAUMINT LOVE!
>>90716952>400M yen incomeWhat was this about?
We really need a homo graduation to balance things out
>>90717185Full armpiss termination onegai
>>90717078>All rook same is real even for AsiansSurprising.
>>90717185>awe need 4 homo graduations
>>90717147Is that you sapjann
>>90716044What the fuck is with all these threads with default Kobo as the OP?
>>90717118https://files.catbox.moe/6wfjl2.mp4lily...
>>90717185>Coco & Sana graduate>Dumb and Dumber>Mel terminated>Gamma terminated>4 graduations>upcoming 4 homo graduations
>>90717129how to say things without saying things
>>90717185Nah drop another gen, even if it's worse for shitposting it's better to spread the audience even more to push all the homos to the absolute limits and collapse the system
>>90717185Shiori and her boys are gonna be around for years and you're just gonna have to deal with that
>>90716403shiggas should correct her
What the fuck is Miko saying?Why do she think saying this is a good idea?
>>90717226>catboxCoward
Biboo now discussing if Pebbles have backs...
>>90716805Because it simply not possible, sponsored and job meetings are usually done in morning or afternoon JST.lesson for idol begin at midnight and recording at afternoon.You address are reveal so you can hide from mane-chan.I can assure you the world don't revolve around hololive and those boss won't listen to damn excuse such as talent still streaming so meeting is postponed.Remember ENReco where Advent have join.late or leave mid-games for pull of the dark?
>>90717226qrd?
>06 decwho will replace fauna?
>>90717268She's setting nature on fire
im starting to think biboo doesnt like living in japan
>>90717226>I love it here
I'm making a declaration! We will run towards the top!>宣言しちゃいます! うちらトップ目指して走ります!(with all my might)>(全力で)Is it becoming popular!? Online ticket prices will skyrocket soon!>人気出ちゃいます!? すぐにネットチケット高騰(rapid growth)>(急成長)Idol No. 1 (full smile)>アイドルその一 (笑顔全開)Idol Part 2 (Take care of your fans)>アイドルその二 (ファンを大事に)Idol #3 (Sweat is a medal)>アイドルその三 (汗は勲章)An idol>アイドルたるものBe loved!>愛されよう!My legs are shaking from morning practice.>朝練で足がガクガクですI want to borrow the help of a sleepy Manako cat.>眠気まなこ猫の手借りたい"Super hard every day">「毎日超ハード」(he to he to)>(ヘ・ト・ヘ・ト)There are days when I want to cry when the haters say that I'm not suited for it.>向いてないってアンチの言葉で泣きたくなる日もThere are days when everyone around me leaves me alone>周りのみんなに置いてかれる日も(I want to clench my teeth and hold on)>(食いしばってしがみつきたい)He told me to do my best even when it was tough.>しんどい時でも頑張ってって言ってくれたからI'll sing with all my heart and soul until my voice reaches you!>全身全霊声が届くまで歌ってみせるよ!A shout from you! A call! I'm going to do my best!>君からのエール! コール! マジで頑張れちゃいます!(Breaking the limit!)>(限界突破ー!)Full house! It's crazy!? Admission is restricted everywhere!>満員御礼! ヤバい!? どこも入場規制中!(Great success!?)>(大成功!?)Idol Part 4 (My spine is straight)>アイドルその四 (背筋はピンと)Idol Part 5 (keep bangs)>アイドルその五 (前髪キープ)Idol No. 6 (No snacking!)>アイドルその六 (間食はダメ!)Because she's an idol>アイドルですからSo cute>可愛くね"Is it Inokori with red dots?">「赤点連発イノコリかあ」"That's my seat.">「そこ私の席なんですけど」“I’m at the bottom of fortune telling.”>「占い最下位だー」(Great evil!?)>(大凶!?)He told me to do my best even when it was tough.>しんどい時でも頑張ってって言ってくれたからI'll sing with all my heart and soul until my voice reaches you!>全身全霊声が届くまで歌ってみせるよ!Who is your number one? You know without me having to say it, right?>君の一番は誰? 言わなくてもわかるよね?(Let me hear it)>(聞かせて)Pushing is strictly prohibited! Absolutely! No one but me can see it!>推し変厳禁! 絶対! 私だけしか見ちゃダメっ!(Of course!)>(当然!)Idol No. 7 (Always positive)>アイドルその七 (いつもポジティブ)Idol Part 8 (Sometimes Ataku)>アイドルその八 (時にあざとく)Idol Part 9 (Greeting Must)>アイドルその九 (挨拶マスト)Idol #10>アイドルその十"thank you">"ありがとう"A shout from you! A call! I'm going to do my best!>君からのエール! コール! マジで頑張れちゃいます!(Breaking the limit!)>(限界突破ー!)Full house! It's crazy!? Admission is restricted everywhere!>満員御礼! ヤバい!? どこも入場規制中!(Great success!?)>(大成功!?)Mogumogu porridge! (Mogumogu porridge!)>もぐもぐおかゆー! (もぐもぐおかゆー!)Nanano Lunar! (Nano Lunar!)>なのなのルーナー! (なのなのルーナー!)Carve your way to the top!>トップ目指す為に刻めよ!Ten idol articles!>アイドル十ヶ条!
>>90716403Shiori just loves attracting unnecessary drama towards her, huh?
You know Cover is shaking right now and doesnt want to be label as AnyColor2.0 that Hololive girls had to calm the fans downWHATS THE PURPOSE OF THE MANAGEMENT AGAIN?
THE INVISIBLE GUNIT WAS REALALL THIS TIME
>blaming management
Yep, this is the future of HoloEN. Complete meltdown of numbers on freaking MonHun. >timeExcuses. Mumei could and has put up karaoke frames at these hours and gotten similar numbers.
>>90717356post memberships and merch
>>90717356Management just found Biboo a place to live so I'd say they're doing some things right.
>>90717223Better Kobo default PNGs than 20 fauna OPs because some cuck can't cope with the fact that she quit
ANDROIDS ARE SEGREGATED IN BUSES JUST LIKE DA BOIS
Fuck, even Lamy is defending managementhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKyGiHJpwJM
>>90717390holoEN is finished
>>90717404Haha so true ennacuck, hope your savings arent totally burnt through
>>90717402Awesome. Countdown isn't happening this year, while Nijisanji is doing one. Happy?
>>90717248>Shiori and her boysCheap bait but if the blue fag has caught any clip of her stream talking about her take on the management thing he probably doesn't "like her" anymore.
>>90717226This mp4 will become relevant come January
>>90717390>Mumei could and has put up karaoke frames at these hours and gotten similar numbers.she never did a karaoke at this time tho
>Miko 42k>Pekora 24kKek
>>90717297Mococo
>>90717226Isn't this like four years old?And isn't this dude married to some asian chick now?
>Miko: there's no drastic changes>Miko: but yes, things are different from 2-3 years ago>Miko: personally I do feel get busier every year, my schedule become more packed as time goes on>Miko: but it's really not a bad thing
>>90717282papa Arkhand collab
>>90717447Don't reply seriously to the shitposter. Now they're going to keep replying to you until you stop
>>90717440proof next thread ?
>>90717390>file.png>holoEN>seethe>holo vs holo Everytime.
>>90717379You don't beg with a gun
>>90717479>Miko: there's no drastic changesBullshit.
>>90717268She's burning saplings as we speak
>>90717479Management dog
>>90717501>everything that doesn't fit my headcanon is a lie
>>90716143suisei won't even be in new year countdown stream (unless she lied and will do a surprise appearance)
>>90717532>t. chronigger
I wish Fauna just gave a non-answer like company direction because the way it stands it makes it feel like something is a lie.A management issue is unironically solvable. If she isn't leaving because she wants to why isn't she fighting harder for it? I don't believe Fauna is lying, but it seems like she's leaving for nothing based on just her statements. Yes, i'm still in the denial phase
>>90717492Where's the announcement? We're getting Fes news in two days and there's still nothing on the countdown. Last year's announcement was early November. The year before was 1st December. We're past 1st December.
>>90716392>>90716944I was about to mention that and it matches one of the holoan that posts in this very thread
>>90717445I don't think the blue faggot likes many of the girls, especially the ones who likes Harry potter
Most grays I've seen in Miko's chat in a long time
>>90717479Why are we trusting someone from management faction again?
A reminder that Ennacuck and Faunaschizo are in the same discord
>>90717512
>>90717475who do you think make all that music she uses for streams?
>>90717532Keep sucking management cocks, Miko.
>>90717226Eeeeewww
>>90717475we're getting raided by the trooncord, they werent even here last year obviously
>>90717413>troublesome blue woman and orange woman agree Owari…
>Biboo has calves made of steelHot...
>anything for u king
>>90717172their average income based on cover's financial reportpeople keep asking every single holo about itof course they all denied it they need to act like poorfag in order for their fans to spend more moneyshe's trying to turn it into a meme and already planned to do a stream about it
>>90717552You're the one shitting on holo, nijisis
>>90717571Drama is very effective at attracting tourist
>>90717438KING gold
Management is good.
>>90716403She had trouble telling which one was which. It’s amazing how much they try to stretch things.
>>90717611Cover bootlickers.
>>90717407ROBOCO BTFO!
>>90717587oh its not even the guy she was ACTUALLY dating it's just fucking arkhand?Lmao
>>90717573Because they are the idol faction
>>90717104Same! Which one were you listening to?
>>90717582Still reusing the same images huh ennacuck, not surprising
>>90716900>fauna graduate >Ame graduate>Sana graduate>Gura soft graduateLOL
>>90717390So it was saplings keeping EN alive all this time?
>>90717639
>Miko: But the times when I do feel there's too much work>Miko: It's always because I accepted to much work than I can handle>Miko: we need to be professional, so we cannot cancel the jobs we already take>Miko: so it's very important to know your limit>Miko: I'll probably die mentally and physically if accept every job I was offered
>>90717713Ever since 2022
>>90717560Because she's setting up her indie landing and making some vague statement about management allows for easy PR from the corpo bad dramafags. She's not stupid, she saw what happened with Dokibird.
>>90717532Everything has gotten slower (outfits, 3D live delays) and big events are disappearing. The only thing that we're getting a lot more of is weird sponsors for laptops, and shaving equipment, and airports.
ID4 never
>>90717589Without Miko there would be no hololive, Miko is THE management herself at this point>>90716489Liar's Bar new update still got many bugs, the game crashed several times so Miko is playing another game
>>90717701
Fauna please reply to any holomems who responded to your tweet, prove them wrong.... just one reply....
>>90717701>>90717747>one minute
>>90717223It's one dude that has been doing it since June to annoy people. Yes he is that big of a loser.
>>90716849That's Coco
>>90717747Fauna is literally doing a huge collab with the other mems tomorrow during minecraft... I don't think she needs to reply to tweets to prove anything.
>>90717728>The only thing that we're getting a lot more of is weird sponsors for laptops, and shaving equipment, and airports.This is what people meant when they talked about the "nijification of hololive" btw.
>>90717475>Isn't this like four years old?>Isn't this dude married to some other chick now?Yeah Nyfco sisters spammed the proof of that here for a while before getting made fun of for not being able to tell the difference between very obviously different looking white women
>>90717639kuzuleech literally can only get big numbers by leeching tourneys and others now lol
>>90717223>>90717701>>9071774295% of the anti posts are from this one person
>>90717742FUUAARK KOBO WON BIGLY
>>90717475That's why I taunted the fag to post it, same clip after all this years
>>90716733Finally a good post
>>90717413>Lamy, the most critical JP, doesnt understand but tells that fans (antis) should chill out
>>90717701>>90717714BASED!Never stop, King.
>>90717785No, it's just that she doesn't care at all. Some member shared what they had in mind to the situation, but she ignored them.
>>90717734>Without Miko there would be no hololiveLast I check the Daisenpai and co-founder of Hololive is SORA, not Miko.
Are we still seething about management
>>90717589Miko is above cover
>>90717226This is why I will never be a hololive fan. I can see my self sharing the same space with resentful and petty fans. Same goes with niji too.
>>90717725She's not that stupid though, why would she want those types to follow her? They only want more drama, and are fickle so they will ditch when they get none
>>90717701100% a Kobo fan btw.No way this guy is a falseflagger.
>>90717904Most of us understand that management is good after Miko, Mio, Subaru, Lamy, Korone, Marine and others clarified the situation.
>>90717734>Without Miko there would be no hololiveChill buddy that's sister level of delusions
>>90717185working on it
>>90717904>nothing changed>everyone is just deflecting and closing their eyes and ears>whelp whelp whelp, that's it, we're all out of ideas>pack it up, boys, and stop le seething
Unreal that Fauna spent 3 years building up so much good will and such a loving fanbase only to flush it all down the toilet in one 5 minute long video
>>90717904>WeThat's nousagis and saplings
>>90718027You forgot your kobo image LOL
>>90717445I don’t think she’d like him all that much either, since Cover won’t even bother sending her the peripheral that he’s getting late.
>>90718027>>90718033Ennacuck...
How's the general vibe against management now from EN and JP fans? I saw a lot of the girls defending them and saying that most people are mistaken. Has that cooled down fans or are they still angry? Personally Im still a little mad
>>90717904I trust Miko, FBK, and Kanata so no.
>Biboo keeps her Christmas decorations up all year roundI love her.
I CAN HEAR MALE VOICES IN ANYAS STREAMNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>90717660delet!
>>90717944They give you exposure and help existing diehard fans figure out where to go. Also pump subs for a while, which makes your channel look more impressive.
So it was just Fauna's made-up story all along? considering the number of Holomems disagreeing? Yikes.
With Chloe it feels like it’s more of a failure of her manager managing their talents health. The really good managers like Watame’s old one knew when to force her on break for her own good so she didn’t kill herself working. With Chloe her manager was more concerned about the limited studio slots going to waste.
>>90718018They've finally seen that ex Holos can survive even as indies and are scared shitless. This would've been unthinkable a year ago. Cover is going full damage control.
>>90718071shove a knife up your ass
>>90718063Most fans understand that management are the victims in this situation. The only ones still attacking them are shitstirrers.
biboo is gonna give me her gyatt for christmas
I only have 1 viewing device and have to choose between saving riona or chammers. Sorry chammers, riona needs more saving based on the numbers.
>>90717904Since 2021, neither Fauna or Miko changed much
>>90717881Because those talking about it don't have fucking idea what going on.Those that understand is keep their mouth shut.
Fauna mention!>chama sees giraffe >oh fauna fauna, deka kirin
>>90718144Cute
>>90717904Nuanced takes understand that management is NOT a monolith (as is the case for most corpos that have multiple layers of management) and that unfortunately for Fauna, she drew the short end of the stick and had a combination of a shitty personal manager + (most likely) unresponsive middle management.
>>90718142nta but HOLY FUCKING ENGLISH
>>90718095Manager gacha is suck
>>90718116>victimsoh those poor payroll thievesthe victims are the fans
>>90717440Suisei killed the Countdown when she refused to participate.
whats with up with all these low number shit in hololive? jesus christ the flopglow
>>90717685That aint me, I did download this image /here/ though
>>90718059Nousagi spotted Pekora loves niji btw
>>90717904Yes. Forever and ever. I unsuscribed from every single Holo channel. Fuck Cover. Fuck investors. Hope Fagoo chokes on a dick.
>>90718085>still trying
these VCR streams have some impressive churn and/or cull, Mori's 5h VOD is at 127k despite only streaming to like 3-5k
>>90718096Aqua really was the Catalyst that triggered the domino effect. She showed you can dominate as an indie (ex-holo)
>>90717771Why Kobo? I haven't kept up with any ID stuff, did she do something?
>you HAVE to side with management>you HAVE to side with Fauna Why can't I think Fauna had bad experiences with management but that not everyone did and the situation is just complicated?
>Miko: Differences in direction with the company >Miko: to be completely honest I don't know what they're talking about>Miko: For most holos I know, they have a goal in mind and we're all working hard to achieve that>Miko: Even if there are things that's harsh or need to be done, we bite our tongue and grind through it>Miko: So if anyone's leaving, I think there's just something they want to achieve that just can't be done here>Miko: Well it's 400M yen a year you know, its not something easy to let go of
>>90718188It's really something Cover is gonna need to address going forward, it's pretty clear that a bad personal manager basically means you're going to end up getting higher graduation risks.
>>90718096As big a failure as Kson is, she's still bigger than any other ex-Holo will ever be.
Silence ENflop, the Queen of Kaigai, has shown her superiority over your branch.
>>90717904Management deserves to be seethed at and constantly be under scrutiny, if only so they treat the girls right
>>90718142Tell us anon, what is actually going on and how do YOU know what it is when the girls don't?
>>90718243Because it's the hottest holo v holo in town
>>90718205Seems like a problem when so few hold so much power.>Mio and Subaru can't be bothered to do sports fes anymore, so it's kill
>>90718218>implying you were ever subscribed in the first place
>>90718217
>>90718218>Fagoo Sister you're not being subtle
>>90718188Pekora got the worst,she have to show her new manager the rope.
>>90718253>>Miko: Differences in direction with the company >>Miko: to be completely honest I don't know what they're talking aboutLMAO you can't just fucking say that Miko
[biboo news] she is gonna go shopping with zeta and try on sexy underwear in the change rooms together
>>90718225Lots of tourists who didn't know any better. I'm sure they wont make the same mistake again
>>90717959>>90717816It's amazing how the Selenfag never moved on from shitposting here
>>90718188The more popular you are the better manager they will give to you that explains why holostars and fauna's manager are shit
>>90718243That’s what most people are thinking, but the spammers want outrage and conflict instead.
>>90718261Fauna is negligiblea dekinai gaijin who's not even a team playergood riddance
This is bizarre I remember when nijien was imploding from the selen fiasco you never saw the jp branch sticking up for them doing damage control like holojp is doing right now
>>90718307HOLY SHIT MIKO
>>90718266She's a literal fucking 3view.
>>90716673She'll probably pass Mint before she even re-debuts.
>>90718253Miko is trying really hard to make the 400M joke land but it's really not
>>90718095Yeah, Chloe worded it in a way to say that her manager kept giving her new work instead of allowing her to get a breather. Korone and the others have managers that would outright stop them from working if they see a problem.
Fauna eclipsing Bae and then graduating would be the funniest "fuck you" to that corpo rat
>>90718307She meant she doesnt understand it in a non threatening way
>If i was in the normal society i would be worth shitIf being a dreg to society is a requirement to be a top vtuber, how come the homos haven't produced a first army?
>>90718348can she defeat Sakuna before she redebuts or will Sakuna reach 1 million first?
>>90718243Why isn't Cover addressing the fact that their management failed one of the members?
>>90718213>nousagi kek, you wish Ennacuck. I'll be watching Fauna btw and LL
>>90717475He's married to another white girl who is way hotter than Fauna. Dude won.
>>90718253>>90718307never trust a bitch who used to do asmr porn. same goes with friendo
>>90718243So you're siding with fauna
You know the rrats are getting pretty weak when the namecalling for calling them out paints you as every side
>>90718369>Cover's gonna keep her gold plaque
>>90718304That shit’s funny to be honest. As an outside perspective.
>>90718340Cover have used holomems as meatshield since the dawn of time
>>90718217TOP FUCKING KEK; this is turning pretty much like an "early life check" at this point
>graduation rush and depressed cucksAll these departures and yet none of your oshis can compare to even 1% of Kiryu Coco and what she accomplished. Her legacy? like NO OTHER.
>>90718295>thinking homo merch sellskek
>>90718188Part of the problem is that they rotate managers a lot so even if you get a good one you might get stuck with a shitty one later.
>Biboo excited to finally have friends to hang out with irl.
>>90718468
>>90718447WHO?
>>90718340You seem to forget a JP is also graduating, they likely care more about that.
>>90718330>The more popular you are the better manager they will give to you>Shiori was given arguably the most competent manager in EN
>>90718369Not that fucking hard lmao.
>>90718388they're part of the number 1 chuuba agency: Hololive Production88million subs combined doryaaaaaaaTOP OF THE WORLD
>biboo jealous of JP and ID being able to see each other so easily>kiara jealous of JP and ID being able to see each other so easilyTHEY ARE
>>90718355it's really not a joke
>>90718447I kneel
>>90718411Uh oh edited
>>90717621how do people not know the difference between revenue and income400M yen is the average amount Cover takes in per vtuber (sum of past 4 quarters) but talent compensation was 59 million JPY on average, which is a good income but not earth shattering and doesn't take into account the talents' work expenses like MVs/music production/stream asset commissions, or income taxes paid by the talent. Granted that's an average that includes the homos but the top earner in hololive brought in 4.5% of total revenue, so if compensation is proportional to revenue that's still 231 million yen, which is a lot of money but only a bit over half the "400 million average" figure, and most he top 20 would closer to 100M yen annual gross income.
Mangers drama it's simple look at the patterns all those defending management live in Japan or speak Japanese while Fauna is a eop who can't speak Japanese and lives in the USA her experiences are going to be wildly different than the girls who live in japan or speak Japanese.
>>90718243Fauna only mentioned she had disagreement with management over streaming related stuff,now it spin by schizos to Fauna is lazy and complaint about overworked.
>>90718447Lol, the only thing Coco holds is the superchat record. Aqua surpassed the graduation numbers.
>>90718501GEY
>>90718243That's called being a centrist. No one likes a centrist
>>90718441>phasecucks are being falseflagging faggots againCan't really say I'm shocked tbdesu
>>90717172>400M yen income>What was this about?Some antis took Cover's 400M yen total revenue per vtuber stats from their financial report and tried to spin it as how much money each member is making
>>90718376It sounds like she's shitting on Aqua, Fauna, and Chloe
>>90718501REAL HOLOS
>>90718501if pewdiepie could get his animals to japan and move you can too wawa
>>90718449they'll buy the remainder. It will always sell out
>>90718364Her manager probably cares about their career more than their talent
https://x.com/irys_en/status/1863600744919945324https://x.com/irys_en/status/1863600744919945324https://x.com/irys_en/status/1863600744919945324DON'T LOOK
Graduation soon
>>90718530Don't make me bring out the copypasta and embarrass your dumb onion
>>90718486Her numbers is shit her manechan is not doing a good job promoting her
Not gonna lie, the Miko = management rrat is starting to sound more and more real...
>>90716673She's online?
>>90718553Sure sure
>>90718304That’s common practice in the company. New managers are usually assigned to experienced managers and vice versa, on the basis that whoever survives being Haachama’s chew toy/Suisei or Towa’s go-fer is able to handle just about anything. Might not work as well with HoloX having been around for longer and EN management had to be built from scratch, but that’s how it’s been for most of JP.
>>90718290Part of why events became boring (and I have no fucking idea why anyone wants them back) is they all became about promoting whatever the newest gens were instead of reuniting the classic members. Why would members continue to fund and volunteer on Sportsfes when it's just a vehicle for promoting all the members they have no connection to. Even the stupid Godfield tournament that just happened was all about promoting new gens.
>>90718447Then why did YOU left?
>>90718530Aqua surpassed the YEN superchat record iirc, but Coco still holds the DOLLAR superchat record
>>90718591>file.png
>>90718486Kiara had the best manager in EN as her personal manager for years (Jenma). She has a new manager now, the British girl that she was training for like half a year.
>>90718553No she's saying just like us, she doesn't get what the fuck "difference in direction" means exactly
>>90718516show pippa membership
I miss pre-2021 hololive...
>>90718456Why the hell they rotate managers
>>90718631Yeah, that's a screenshoot, good job anon.
>>90717185>>90718008Kek, nuke the entire branch while you're at itShe won't come back
>>90718596Bring it out you dumbfuck.
>>90718679Keep spamming your anti posts all thread parasite
>>90718238Just the latest in a long line of chubas the selenfag use to avatarfag with.
>>90718501Cover lapdogs
The Hero of Taiwan.
>>90718551this is just like when 6million yen became 6million USD during the late artist payment yabour numbermancy may be retarded, but they're smoking something else outside
>>90718494These are the numbers Cover is sacrificing so much for
>>90718561Kiara owns a house now so it’s too late
>>90718670>Shion>La BrujaLMAO
>>90718217Hoyo boycott ah post
>>90718526>compensation remuneration, its the money they take out of the company. If they chose to let's say invest in 3 MVs that year that totaled 100M yen, then that number is taken out of that figure. Miko is talking about what her share of profit from Cover is, that 400M yen figure is actually not unreasonable for top talents like Miko (say if she brings in 2B yen or 5% of all revenue and her average combined profit share is around 20%)
>>90718627Cool. What happened to Holosummer and where are the swimsuits?
>>90718608Isnt that an alert to tell you there are new videos on the channel you havent seen or visited the channel
>>90718664Miko is Japanese and most importantly 1st army she wouldn't get it
>>90718753>Molested by a fan
>>90718583>https://x.com/irys_en/status/1863600744919945324this probably irritates /HIRyS/ more than it does saplings
>>90718583This has to be on purpose at this point
>>90718441typical
Oh biboo...
>>90718344Exactly.
>>90718486It also helps that she has basically neutered him. He was her butler when she was in Japan, buying her groceries and smut.
>>90718494Bae can finally spend her time with da bois
>>90718664Who invented that cope anyway
>>90718621>New managers are usually assigned to experienced managersexcept that manager name is called Pekora-sama(the new mane really call her sama)
>>90718792you need to take a rest.
Biboo would be so easy to kidnap
>>90718583Truly Flare of HoloEN
>miko talking about human resources development
>>90718664Because difference in direction is a standard vanilla explanation for why you're leaving, but cant explain exactly what that difference is.
>>90718825I remember kiara talking about how one of the EN managers walks around with a tea set or something when there EN girls are around and I always just assumed it was Henma
>>90718673Train new ones, give the new girls someone to show them the ropes. You can request staying with a manager if you don’t want to rotate (Kiara and Kronii would probably quit if they had to give up Jenma and Kroma)
biboo trying to say google is cute
>>90716892https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs86f6tbWatcKVt7emv9hfQI remember her channel being way lower in the rankings before, and now she's over a million subscribers.
>>90718740IP value first Idol second streaming third
>>90718795>Virus accounthow many children this one groomed
>>90718897Seeing how Fauna has been pumping out shitpost covers, I think Cover forbidding that is one of her gripes. Gura had a similar gripe too.
>>90718916
>Fastest ever holojp to hit the 1 million subscriber milestone>Became the #1 superchat earner in the WORLD withing a mere EIGHT months of being active>Earned over a MILLION $ in superchats in her FIRST year of being active>Generated over $700k in superchat revenue in a SINGLE month>Holds the record of generating the highest ever superchat revenue in a SINGLE stream $300k+>The MOST INFLUENTIAL VTUBER EVER>POPULARISED ARKino in Japan>SINGLEHANDEDLY cultivated a culture around throwing superchats>SCARED nijisanji into initiating a "ghost superchats" money laundering scheme>Her debut month had the ENTIRE vtuber scene in a chokehold>Reached a 100k subs in just under a week. the fastest ever at the time. (Everyone KNEELED)>EVERY single person who ever dared to collab with her was branded as a dirty stinking LEECH (poor Kanata...)>First EVER holomem to hit 100k concurrent viewers>First EVER holomem to hit 200k concurrent viewers>First EVER holomem to hit 300k concurrent viewers>First EVER holomem to hit 400k concurrent viewers>First EVER holomem to hit 490k concurrent viewers>Popularised early morning streams with her Asacoco morning show>CONQUERED Reddit and turned it into her playground>Her Reddit shitpost reviews were so Popular that even the leech (Pekora) would camp Coco timeslots for some funnels>So POPULAR to the point that even hololive's (then) Chinese fans would feel threatened of her COLLOSAL popularity and threatened that their status quo of wanting to monopolize hololive would dwindle even further>THE HERO of TAIWAN>Made HEADLINES and had the entire vtuber scene and the WORLD on its knees>The LEGENDARY ORANGE DRAGON>So LEGENDARY in fact that TO THIS DAY the sheer mention of her name is banned in Chinese media (such as video games)Kneel worthy legacy in my books.
>yeah there is like one manager for 2-3 talents
So just like that we hate Mori again?
>>90718740???
Biboo is an adult now...
>biboo excited about public healthcareamerica bros....
>>90718330Funny you said that because Marine just talked about how she got a new Manager around April this year that was new to the job, and ended up making mistakes when managing the deadlines and scheduling work for her 3 million celebration.That manager then ended up quitting soon after which made Marine go menhera
>>90719010Who
>>90718315Kaela's gf being stolen by Biboo
>enter the numberfag general thread >anons are jerking off to meme dragonIt's over for /#/
>>90718825To be fair, I’m pretty sure Henma is used to that sort of thing already, he was in the process of transferring Mumei over to Kroma when she wasn’t eating in Japan because she wouldn’t go grocery shopping by herself.
>>90718991Maybe. She was given permission to do a ton of shorts though. I think the shitposts on notFauna's channel are more to get peoples attention, and possibly a hint
>> Kson will play HoloCureinteresting
>>90717156>https://litter.catbox.moe/sg0qmr.pngOh yeah, this is your average twitch indie btw.
>>90719040Holos actually get good healthcare from Cover if they live in Japan iircWhen Mio was in the hospital she got her own private room.
>biboo has insurance nowmaybe fauna should've moved to japan after all...
>>90719062>grayall gray chat don't really matter
>>90718777Prudes like Suisei don't like it.
>>90719083I mean, who can stop her
>Affiliate status only an option for girls with over 1 million subs>Fauna hits 1 million before graduation, becomes an affiliate
>>90719054whats even funnier is she playing as a dude
>Fauna graduates>Promise immediately parties at Yakiniku
>>90719010Sapling bros how can we compete
>>90719019again?
>>90719113Why the fuck did you take a screenshot of half the screen?
>>90719088i'd still hit it
>>90719044Newbie manager needs to manage non-menhera experienced holoStill don't understand why management let newbie to manage their money makers
>>90718897It pretty obvious thoAqua = sololive and stop making her travelAme = creativity differenceChloe = reduced or better workload adjustmentFauna = streaming related
any rrats know the reason why Bae didn't join the vcr this time, while Calli did?
>>90717904chloe's manager 100% fucked up by making her go to recordings while she was still sickthere's no two ways about itthen management who did nothing to help her also at faultso yeah "works on my machine" is not an argumentchloe should've called them out publicly and let cover deal with them
>Biboo being racist to bugsBased.
>>90719010>Became the #1 superchat earner in the WORLDhighly disputable now>The MOST INFLUENTIAL VTUBER EVERLMAO not even close to Miko and Pekora levels>Reached a 100k subs in just under a weekLMAO many Holos achieved that BEFORE even debuting>Made HEADLINES and had the entire vtuber scene and the WORLD on its kneesSo is Gura, Miko, Marine, Pekora, and SUISEI. Coco is nothing special.>Kneel worthy legacy in my books.Pfft, cute joke.
>>90719083>I was in Hololive too y'know
>>90718846I mistyped, I meant to say new managers are assigned to experienced talents. Thanks for pointing out the typo. Pekora has serious seniority in addition to all the other reasons why her manager would address her deferentially.
>>90716477>Feminization
>>90719083>i need to remind them of who i am(vtubing jesus) and leech for a bit.
>>90719083I'm surprised she hasn't played it already
>>90719122I never find Kson want to do anything with Hololive except Haachama is her oshi.This is the first time.
>>90719083I mean it's the patch with yonkisei
>>90718924Managers have jobs too, Miko's old manager who she had come to her Sololive was promoted years ago and they hadn't interacted much since then.
>>90719044That's a trainee manager her true manager is still there wether the trainee leaves or stay temporarily
>>90718163>Nuanced takes understand that management is NOT a monolithit is in a sense that they are protecting each other and basically stand against the talents>she drew the short end of the stick and had a combination of a shitty personal manager + (most likely) unresponsive middle management.don't disagree with that tho
>Extreme Desperate method to try and rival VCR kek
>>90719101She hates japanese food
>>90718996Why are you describing yourself? Kobo won btw.
>>90719070Everything she's been doing for the past month or so has, in retrospect, been about setting up her indie landing.
>>90719010I miss this bitch
>>90719236Ennacuck...
>>90719083She smells blood in the water. It's time to poach.
>>90719222Well, there is Coco in Holocure
>>90717297shes still pushing this shit??
>>90719236I doubt Marine even knows VCR is happening
>>90719083She needs the numbers spike dopamine rush once in a while
>>90716602My brother!
>>90719070I'm starting to suspect that she is trying to set up her post-holo career while severing all ties but it remains to see what she does the rest of the month.
>>90719291call me ennacuck one more time and I will never EVER let holofan fuck my tight booty in holofes men's room you incelcorns will have to jerk off for the rest of your life kekaroooo
>I think if I fell asleep on stream that would be uninterestingBASED BIBOO
>>90719317she's a numberfag - not as much as pekora - but she knows
>>90719251
>>90718340nijiEN would've literally been still fine if they didn't do a black screen streamif they did exactly what holos are doing now things would never escalate (but they can't cause niji management is actually shit lol)
biboo done now what?
>>90718991Thank god Cover didn't let her release that crap
>>90719177>Baeshe's catching up on solo streaming after being busy with dance practice so she didn't join>Morithere's no Holo event going on at the same time and her schedule is open in the evening so she joined
>>90719101Fauna hated Japan because she couldn’t eat anywhere cause they’re all non-vegan. She had to have Bae cook her every meal when they were in Japan together.
>>90718253KEK
>>90719101I mean, what if the "Different direction" is something outside of Vtubing that she and management can't negotiate? After all, she's still a lab rat, no?
Miko just said something important about being an idol streaming and management, clip fags will clip it for sure
>>90719403Yeah, really don't want to sully Hololive's reputation for quality. Bought your slop shaver yet?
biboo and bae are gonna sext later
>>90718340HoloJP and HoloEN have always been more integrated that their niji counterparts
>>90719188>Became the #1 superchat earner in the WORLD>highly disputable nowShe holds the record for being 1st EVER streamer to generate a $1million btw. You can't dispute a knock record in history. >>The MOST INFLUENTIAL VTUBER EVER>LMAO not even close to Miko and Pekora levelsLeeching levels yeah>>Reached a 100k subs in just under a week>LMAO many Holos achieved that BEFORE even debutingNewfaggot spotted >>Made HEADLINES and had the entire vtuber scene and the WORLD on its knees>So is Gura, Miko, Marine, Pekora, and SUISEI. Coco is nothing special.How new are you? Because this amount of coping is really unhealthy.>>Kneel worthy legacy in my books.>Pfft, cute joke.You have no arguments. You lost cuckbro.
>>90719044Managing deadlines and schedules should be done through some sort of project management system shared across management. There shouldn't be one manager who is the sole failure point.
>>90719382To be fair, Anycolor also implicated the other NijiEN members in their termination notice, while no one except the schizos is trying to blame the other girls.
I'll be honest, miko might be entertaining and popular. but she lacks the charisma to 'lead' everyone in times like this. Fubuki and Pekora is way more suited for the job
>>90719458
>>90718503>>90718253when your read chat IT IS a joke they are going along with it
>>90719427Lessons learned from Council:>Don't hire more vegans>Don't hire more professional artists>Don't hire more college students
>>90719518Thanks for your thoughts ennacuck
>>90719376is a date stream
This rat is going to keep my rock child awake...
>>90719427I bet that the reason why fauna leaving to get the main benefits of Hololive you need to live in Japan now for access to better resources/mangers and get your project ideas off.
>>90719010she is really respected by other girls to this day they seek her wisdom
>>90718369>>90718494Well, she better do it fast then
Biboo offline. Owari da.
>>90718323Because >>90719540>>90719376Always falls for it without fail
>>90719458eigo jouzu
>>90719239she literally can just cook herself you know...
>>90719625Adorable
>>90719596That has already been disproved but it certainly helps if you aren't a fan of traveling.
>>90718238People here dislike her because of homo stuff so it's easy to falseflag as her
>>90719596More like you have to be willing to travel a lot if you’re not living in Japan. Kiara still gets a lot of opportunities despite being a Euro but she travels a fuck ton
>>90719518>PekoraStop being delusional noufagi she herself admitted she is a small fry and got 0 influence in hololive unlike miko
>>90719657>That has already been disprovedennakek doesnt care, he'll keep spamming it for the next month
>>90719499>You can't dispute a knock record in history.so you can't dispute either that Aqua fucking DESTROYED Coco's greatest ccv stream ever then>Leeching levels yeahSTILL MORE POPULAR globally than Coco btwCoco took a full week to reached 100k. Some Holos today took LESS than a week, BEFORE DEBUT even to reach that. And you're saying Coco's was impressive? LMAO.>How new are you? Because this amount of coping is really unhealthyYou're the one coping here because you know I'm right.>You have no arguments. You lost cuckbro.Says the one who literally just got BTFO'd in his own post KEK
>>90719517yeah but it was already quieting down right before the black screen stream.they could've literally done ANYTHING ELSE
>>90719617She actually did cook for herself in Japan, Bae mentioned it at the time.
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING
>>90719427American girls hate japan for some reason
>>90719010>SCARED nijisanji into initiating a "ghost superchats" money laundering schemeReally funny that Vshojo and ironmouse are employing these very same tactics for her begging streams
>>90717728>the girls are being worked too hard by having their picture slapped on an electric razor, I miss when they could take it easy and perform 3D concerts all the time
>>90719505Cover expand too fast for their infrastructure to handle
>>90719517something the dramatrannies don't really get is that NijiEN terminated a girl who was in the hospital at the time, used the termination letter to smear her rather than getting her own graduation statement and then pushed multiple talents to shit on her in one coordinated fashion across the whole branch (rmeinder: the entire NijiEN at the time minus Scarle retweeted the black stream)meanwhile Fauna got to announce her departure herself, was allowed to speak it's caused by a clash with management, none of the official Holo sources questioned or demeaned her (in fact all expressed regret/gratitude for her work) and girls give their own statements when pressed by fans, with their own interpretations and feelingsit's really trying to draw comparisons from nothing just to have another whiff of Selen Shock
>>90719406>her schedule is open in the evening so she joinedso instead of doing streams for her western fanbase in these trying times and hyping up her concert she'd rather chase jp bro cock? nahone
>SEA hours>Thread is shitlike clockwork
>>90719732
>>90717904Chloe got screwed.Fauna got screwed.Management will need to fix whatever went wrong in both cases in the coming months.
>>90719596Biboo just talked about how management triple checked to make that she actually wanted to move there and Shiori yesterday said that there is no pressure to move.
>>90719427is fauna one of those vegans that just eats frozen meals?
>>90719815You can just blame a single fag
>>90719382The termination notice was also a mistake. If they weren't willing to let her graduate, the termination notice should have at least been vague on details.
>>90719751To be fair, i will riot if Mio is forced to advertise razors
>>90719596This is what happens if Fauna move to Japan,FWMC and Bae are best examples
she said most things she talked about on her mengen yesterday. the only things she didn't say is her feelings about shit stirrers and how most holos generates and get tons of money by doing literally nothing
>>90719815Cuck posters can't help themselves please understand
>>90719836No. She loves cooking and baking.
>>90719715Fair enough. Just saying that the girls aren’t facing accusations of wrongdoing that they could double down on like the Three Stooges did.
>>90719746Nerissa just really loves greasy fast food
>>90719746biboo...
>>90719760Indeed. Thanks to the girls speaking up, it's clear that the issue is (mostly, it looks like Chloe also got the short end of the stick too) one of incompetent personal managers that the girls didn't sack when they should have, and some lackluster middle management as well. Like, the overall direction = positive for most of the girls, but people have slipped through the cracks. That's not good, but it's not "oh shit, burn everything down" levels of bad.
>>90719746Yee haw Mori literally lives there.
>>90719760Yeah, it's basically dramaaddicts chasing the dragon.
>>90719864why do they cuckpost?
Kanata exposing everyone by showing they only work 19 hours a week is probably the highlight of this month. No one can complain about long work hours anymore LMAO
>>90719793She already said that streams during the day would be sparse because she has recordings and dance practice during that time
>>90719836No she likes to cook but that trip basically killed a big part of her fantasy image of Japan.
>>90719825Ryoiki Tenkai,"Mass HoloEN exodus, non-affiliation and graduation".
>>90719760I’ve pretty much been saying this the whole time, thanks for summarizing it.
>>90719596Shiori said otherwise
>>90719815It's mostly ennacuck and one or two faggy retards who shit up /#/ for 'fun' because they apparently can't find something else to do with their free time.
>>90719933Projection. Fetish. Annoys people.
This is really cuteI don't remember Moona and Fauna being especially close
>>90719933Unironically triggered by selenfag
>>90719933Bicorns
>>90719952
>>90719815Thread was worse yesterday in NA hours when Saplings were on a warpath.
>>90719987They weren't especially close but Moona did talk about looking up to Fauna quite bit, especially around 2023
>>90720006>t. ennacuck
>>90719700>Leeching rabbit camping timeslots for some Coco funnels HOLY KEKAROOOOOO
>>90719949The fate of many a weeb.
>>90719815nigger its fucking midnight in sea
>>90719751I thought we've accepted that the overworked thing is a lie, or at least highly dependent on the individual, which in this case is Aqua and Chloe?
Miko talking about shit stirrers, she doesn't go as far as calling them niggers this time though
>>90719937Just because she's useless doesn't mean everyone else is the same
>>90719938so she would rather do vcr slop, then streamer for her fanbase?
>>90719949Paris syndrome
>>90720059>retard still trying despite knowing he got BTFO'd alreadyLMAO
>>90720002Good little pup. Post more Kobo, the queen of Kaigai fanarts.
>>90720059Isreal?
>>90719952your oshi is a 2-3 view whore
>>90720079For Chloe, it looks like her personal manager was a fucking idiot, and Chloe should have put her foot down and said -no- to some things, a lesson that Subaru learned the hard way.
>>90720069Eurotards love deflecting please understand
I know this I've seen this before I know why fauna is graduating... it's because of the shareholders... don't you find it odd the second holo Corp goes public Fauna and Chloe chose to graduate? Well I know why this isn't a "disagreement with management" in buisness terms this means the shareholders wanted her OUT. These disgusting shareholders with no sense of the product they are putting money into clearing it out making a shell of what it once was... this will only be the beginning soon these corporate needs will graduate more and more till they only have vtubers who agree with their ideas and they will all be graduating due to "disagreements with management" but I see through this... and you all too don't you??? It's up to us now we must all unite and take them down free holo from the shackles that is being public so that we can save everyone... we can do this we just need to fight for it! everyone!!!! WE CAN DO THIS!!!!
>>90720006I want to give saplings the benefit of the doubt and assume a lot of that were antis playing both sides.
>>90719834>>90719657Damm I have no ideas what would caused fauna to leave then. Just have to wait and see for more informantion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHyDw_RcaQQ
>>90720127
>>90720079While >we have, schizos aren’t known for moving on from shit like this.
>>90720154Didn't Chloe say that management tried to tailor the schedule around her health issues?
>>90719949Why didn't she ask people living in Japan about vegan places before traveling there?
>>90720184WTF?! YES!!! Finally!!!
A daily reminder that Cover would be sucking Bilibili cock if it weren't for Coco
>>90720184Oh shit they found the fax
>>90720154Do managers have supervisor? I feel they can complain to that if it exists
>>90720154Seems like Chloe's manager had no idea what her limits were.
>>90720180I'm sure some were, but I'm sure some of it was real Saplings too.
>>90720203Japan doesn't really do vegan stuff, the closest thing they have if vegetarian but even that is pretty rare
>>90720184AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PLEASE PLAY IT FAUNA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>90720069They go to sleep at 11pm?
>>90720237Dont care about your plebbit dragonOnyan graduated because Cover higherups wants her to spearhead holos B2 comebackNotice how B2shit stopped after her graduation annoucement?
>>90720184XENOMORPH TIME BABY!
>>90720176No need,when my oshi graduate I will go to together with my stock.
>>90720180I mean no shit rightPeople are clearly in a "fuck management" mood but you know how retards see that as an in to go>Yeah fuck them, BURN IT ALL DOWN!instead of most people who are going>Yeah fuck them, something needs to be fucking fixed.
>>90720237
>>90720203Veganism itself is a lot about how strict your veganism is. Most things a non-vegan thinks should be fine are not fine at all (see: infamous incidents from Fauna about fruit that touched cream or a tainted spoon). Some people make more compromises than others. And of course she's eating with non-vegans every meal since she's not alone and they want real food. Watame took her to a vegan restaurant and commented about how she had to eat such huge servings to get any calories out of the meal.
>>90720184How will the thread react when she says the same thing as the other girls about the situation? She'd be the first thread favorite to do so.
>>90719760Dramafags get a whiff of what's like to be immune and has been acting uppity since thenWhich is why I will always blame Anykara for once again, contribute to everything that's wrong with Vtuber
>>90720201People are talking about an incident from a year ago, they probably realized they had to take their foot off the gas after that, but there’s only so much wiggle room, and Chloe’s health has only gotten worse.
SHE DID IT
>>90720237Your idiotic dragon died for Nothing. Cover still returned to China and she is now irrelevant.
>>90720176>don't you find it odd the second holo Corp goes public...It has been a long while already
Oh Bae is crying. She muted herself right as she started though
My Kobo folder just grows larger
>>90719911it's easy to get caught up in the hysteria since any girl graduating from Holo is a likable, respected member of vtubing community (there's no Zaion/Selen situation where your own main "fanbase" is majority of your hates), so it's easier for people to get righteously angry on their behalf, but looking at the greater picture the promotion and accomplishments of the girls, the quality of their models, music releases and performances, the status of the company - all seem progressing in a relatively healthy direction, with a lot of more toxic notions from investors like reducing talent compensation being fiercely rejectedthere are decisions that can be seen as questionable/shortsighted, like DEV_IS confused introduction, but Cover generally had a good run based on the policy "stumble into success, consciously avoid failure", which is why their innovative ideas tend to flop, they improve on iterations and they treat their baseline (the girls) pretty well
-> TEAMYOUTUBE SPY HERESome bloke is melting down, registered his YouTube account through his student email and now his institution will delete fucking everything>I SURELY HOPE YOU BLOKES AREN'T DOIN THE SAME THING THROUGH YOUR UNIS OR WORKPLACES<- TEAMYOUTUBE SPY OUT!
>>90720381Say what? That they understand things can be rough but don't find themselves at the point of wanting to leave?What's the issue there
The MESSIAH of Vchuubing
>>90720059>HOLY KEKAROOOOOOyou will NEVER be white schizo monkey lmao
>>90720444>big girls don't cry
>>90720176i heard that shareholders are allowed to go into the office and tell everyone what to do and they get to make all the decisions
>>90720409That's my WifeRyS!
The most obvious rrat regarding Fauna isn't that she was finally fed up with management incompetence, but rather that they weren't paying her enough. The biggest reason people leave their job is money. Fauna is a consistent 5view, with one of the most loyal fanbases in HoloEN. She probably thinks she can earn more as an indie than she can on her current Holo contract. She probably asked for a bigger cut in revenue, and was rejected, so she decided to leave.
>Miko: isn't it nice to see a lot of holos does zatsudan or mengen stream the last few days>Miko: to me it really says they want to ease their fans worries even if its a little bit>Miko: makes me smile that we're all still very caring of our fans
>>90720316School is tomorrow anon
>celebrating getting permsI want out so bad.
>>90720273the supervisor might be the actual problem in terms of setting targets, with the personal manager being a second-order issue where some are an advocate for the talent while others see their role as making sure the talent does what their superiors want.
>>90720059Pekomiko schizo is vindicated
>>90720509This is a dumbfuck rrat, if she gave a shit about money she wouldn't keep SCs closed
>>90720474what an idiot
>>90720474Only idiots use emails like that
>>90720482You mustn't have been here yesterday when every girl who said anything was proclaimed a corpo bootlicker.
>>90720147Anon, >we JUST post the chart ...
>>90720484>becomes an irrelevant whore>She died for nothing as Cover slowly returns to Chinalol
>>90720509I mean that's probably part of it.Probably not ALL of it but probably a part of it for sure.I'd go out on a limb and say that literally every non-termination based graduation, barring Coco, had to do with money in some way. Not as the only or even primary reason, but for sure as a contributing factor.
Unforgotten.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJ3JJWujKMGod bless Ela
>>90719596Shiori disproves that>Idol work is not forced and is not one of her priorities >Is not and would not move to japan >Stated to have only had positive interactions with management with her only gripes being perms being a hassle sometimes (clarified that a lot of times perm holders simply never respond to cover)>Has been able to produce 4 covers with a 5th in the works with ease>Has never had a project canceled The personal manager gacha roll really seems to be the main issue
>>90720331>deleted
>>90720604So you mean when shitposters were running wild? Yeah no I wasn't here yesterday much I was nursing a hangover.
>>90720515Yup because Cover is shaking right now
>>90720474Whew, what a retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKWZJXTGTqQ
Oh hey he ran out of images
>>90720509>doesnt want to travel to japan for idol stuffwhy give money to cover if you dont want to use their services? shes gonna make more money as a lemon
im watching the jelly/lumi sleepover. they're cute. lumi says jelly would never collab with a man. she says her oshi (suisei) might and she'd be ok with it if it was for her music or career. jelly says her own oshi (unnamed) is super gfe-oriented and would never.>if she played apex with a dude I'd double die>if it was some freaking apex game I'd end it allthen they started talking about livestreaming their suicidesanyway, hope you guys enjoy this post in ten minutes when the timer runs down.
>look at deletedYeah it's ennacuck on the rag again, does xher period never ends??
>>90720564SCs are closed so she doesn't have to deal with the current schizos. Revenue cuts are going to be a topic of increasing importance as Holos strike off as indies. If the indies can be successful, Cover will either have to increase revenue sharing, or bleed talents.
>>90720474That’s only something you’d want to do if you wanted to curate your feed for stuff related to school projects, which is honestly a fairly pointless thing to do anyway.
>>90720509Why wouldn't she take affiliate then
>>90718441>>90718217lmao always the phasenigs
>>90720629
>>90720685Now if only they would actually ban him
>>90720631>clarified that a lot of times perm holders simply never respond to coverI bet it's western devs/pubs
>>90720550I'm curious if some managers have their own clique and they dislike holomem
>>90720705They tend to, looking at the ban logs from time to time. Then he evades the ban.
>>90720690>>90720697
>>90720631Shiori is literally the least popular and least successful member in the entire branch, why would anyone care about her opinion?
>debuts>hololive inclines into the moon>even yagoo begins to kneel yup yup YUP
>>90720550Had that discussion lots of times with middle management in my company ("my" In the literal sense too).It goes pretty much like this>customer demands X>account manager (in our company, responsible for dealing with customer) simply relays customer demand to the project teams without either pushing back, explaining the constraints or negotiating a smaller scope>team complains the demand is unreasonable or unfeasible because of time constraints>account manager hardens his resolve, demands that the customer request is done as isEven in situations where the customer is in the right the role of the account manager is to defend THE TEAM and to try to reach a negotiated settlement which attends to the customer request WHILE not simply dumping the responsibility on the team.The worst type of middle management is the lazy one, simply "carrying water" from above to below and demanding results.
>>90718795>[any shit] virus
>>90720631Shiori has male manager
>>90720550With this were pretty much guarantee that Cover will address and change this in the background
>>90720690That is retarded, you will never be able to match the revenue share of an indie just by the nature of how it works, what cover should do is focus on their comparative advantages like music deals, 3d lives, and sponsorship opportunities that indies have trouble replicating instead of trying to match them in their sole advantage
>>90720749Fauna is the least popular and least succesful member in Promise. There's a direct parallel.
>>90720753>becomes an irrelevant whore and reclines quickly>everything she stood for was in vain because Cover returned to ChinaKEK!
>>90720631FUWAMOCO didn't say it explicitly, but they mentioned things used to be really rough for them around Spring and that was when they got a new manager but things are better now
>>90720705>>90720740now only if they would swat him....
>>90719083reminder that nobody in nijisanji has ever played it lol
>>90720833Jawamei my beloved
>>90720753Yogurt was worth more than her entire career as holo and kson
If it were simply a new manager they would've just offered to replace it once they caught wind that she wanted to graduate. It's probably them rejecting all her ideas.
>>90719174fauna is the non-vegan friendly jp trips anon
Do you think the situation is>train new managers with new talentsOr>train new managers with old talentsBecause either one has problems but I can see the latter being especially bad for the EN branch if they're constantly getting a rotation of newfags at their job
>>90720811
>>90720710Sometimes it is. Mumei mentioned that the reason she couldn’t play Civ 5 in her first month was that the publisher never responded until after Fauna also put in a request.
>>90719083ex holo members are able to play that game without NDA bs? interesting
>>90720629>I can't believe I just killed ENsharts branch with my FRIGGIN mind!>FRIGGIN mindWith 80 IQ you didn't do anything and never will affect real world ennacuckold
Anyone else here watching miko? I genuinely don't know what she's going for here. not to mention it is completely out of her character to be this preachy
>>90720913>train new managers with new talentsTerrible idea>train new managers with old talentsGood idea but as a side manager not the main one
>>90720804https://yuki-sakuna.stores.jp/That line of thought is going downYes I'm aware that she's an anomaly
>>90720550This is seen as disrespectful in any company. I did it a number of times in my youth and multiple times it turned into the higher-ranked manager backstabbing me and teaming up together with the one being complained about because they have their own loyalties to each other to worry about and don't want to encourage people disrespecting their status in the organization.
>>90718253THE PROTAGONIST.
>>90720884I think management should have to come out, bow their heads, and apologize to fans when they fuck up badly enough to chase off a talent
>>90720913Make new managers assistants of old managers so they learn from the old ones
>>90720710Probably not even intentional either. Most small / mid-sized Western devs probably never expect to get someone asking for permission to stream their games
>>90720697Maybe she's thinking about joining another corpo or wants to keep that option open.
>>90720941This guy understand how important of this stream.
>FRIGGIN
>>90720822>things were really rough when they were at their best, most active and most popular>now that they're streaming way less, postponing and canceling streams every other day and struggling to reach 5k ccv without bots things are so much betterThere is no future for holoEN
>>90720059Lmao this is true even to this day
>>90720971>acrylic >keychain>tapestry that is a niji tier merch lineup anon
>>90720971She's the Holo girl that organised the first self produced sololive in the company, with all others before hers being INNK organised projects.Not every girl has the business sense to actually manage their own career and, as the industry proved, MOST aren't capable of even setting up their own internet or self producing merch without a babysitter or getting scammed
>>90720710Western devs get mad at cover requesting perms that they add retarded stipulations sometimes
>>90720976Yep, HRD here, never do that if you don't want the higher-ups to hate you.
The catalog really is trying their hardest at painting Fauna as Holo's Doki, pretty sure I'm seeing the same threads that were posted back then reworded to be about her instead
>>90719010She helped cultivate Elito English as well
Cover USA status?
>>90720059Uh oh nousagis our response
>>90720804yeah, indies will always be favored on the money side, but it's gonna be fairly hard for an indie to go>well, I had an interview in national TV and I was included in official government tourist projectsthere's a reason people like Shylily fucking kiss the ground Mori walks on despite basically rivaling her in viewership and leaving her behind in sheer revenue, there's soft power tied to being tied to big corporations
You get what you fucking deserve vcr hoe!
>>90721151Cover USA will be about the business side not the talent side so whatever
>p10Stop burning through threads
>>90721103>Implying she doesn't have the whole team behind her
>>90721175>and leaving her behind in sheer revenueI truly doubt that. Have some numbers to share to put some meat in this sauce?
>>90721175>my oshi doesn't stream but I saw her face on an ad the other dayDamn... hologods we are winning so hard...
>>90719518Miko has done a great job remaining grounded an mature during all of this.She leads by example.
>>90721205No, and you better bake a good one this time
>>90721103>first self produced sololiveSource?
>>90721280What part you are requesting source, the "first" or the "self produced"?
>>90721256kek you joke but there's probably some people here that unironically feel that way
>>90720059Based Based Based Nousagis burned
>>90720631Welp I'm worried about Nerissa she got fauna crappy manager.
>>90721307Both. I know about her first sololive in NND.
>>90720804Cover should, theoretically, be able to match indie revenue by securing better sponsorships and merch deals, and concerts than an indie would otherwise be able to get. They just have to be willing to give the Holos a bigger cut. However, given that they also have to pay 600 employees, that may not be possible. Cover may learn some hard lessons here in the next year. Right now, it feels like Hololive is on an AKB48 trajectory. They've had incredible success, will probably have more, but eventually enough of their top talents will leave and their popularity will plummet. I have seen nothing to suggest that Cover has figured out how to ensure success long term. Right now, they're just another idol group, albeit a very novel one.
>>90720913I think the way they did it with Kiara is best, she still had Jenma while she was training that new one and she was responsible for more direct issues
kek
>>90721256Not the case of Mori though and even if that was the case it sounds like sour grapes.>my oshi has to stream 24/7 because I am too poor to sustain her and she has no opportunities outside of streamingThat's sad.
>Korone is saying that everyone has their own circumstances and that she doesn't think there's anything wrong with management (at least in the JP side). However, she understands why people might worry because they care so much about Hololive. She suggests that if that's the case, fans should take a step back and focus on the things they enjoy.>She also talked about a time when she accepted every job she could because she was afraid the company or her fans would hate her if she didn’t. But she ended up realizing that she was being silly and that everyone just wanted the best for her.Another rrats slain
>>90721141Is it fair to say Fauna is more like /our/ Pomu, at least surface-level?>loves the company she’s in>loves idol stuffs>beloved by all, actually did all of nijidom like Pomu or am I projecting to fit this idea I have I forget>Is pushed away by company because of management issues
>>90721087https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hakuikoyori_an3rd>acrylic>keychain>pin badgeThe only thing different is the hoodie, and Sakuna got rubber mat. Are you saying Koyo is a Niji tier talent now?
>>90721368He said revenue share, not revenue. Indies make way less money obviously, but they get a bigger share of the money.
