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>>90740788Never happens to Mori. Work more.
>HoloEN>fans can't even write comprehensible english
>>90740788aww your shitty bait only a single reply? here's another to break that record
>every reply is bootlicking sasuga interns
Ina literally had her visa revoked and she still said it's just a problem of one or two higher ups and not all of management. She also said she's still gonna remain for a really long time despite the problems. Makes me wonder what exactly happened to Fauna
>>90740927>>90741108It's not bait, she did complain about ithttps://youtu.be/J3ERu05HUBc
>>90740788>>90741479
>>90740788>i don't know understand howyeah i'm not reading the rest of this ESL gibberish. learn english.
Oh well.Fauna should have learned Japanese and moved to Japan.She just couldn't lick like Bae.Too bad, so sad.Bye bye~!
Why do they expect fans worries to be invalidated when most of the graduations had management issues. Don't fucking sweep it aside by saying you know the full story and we don't. The information we have is the things that pop up through graduations not bts stuff why would you just sweep it aside. Is it wrong to feel and think this when you won't even fucking tell us what's the issue is, talents makes up hololive not some suits viewers don't care about. Why go so hard in defending them and brushing everything off and treating it as some kind of amicable graduation
>>90741710>>90741710>I don't understand how Management doesn't see these problems. Last stream Fauna was complaining and finally revealed that she had all sorts of problems with her 3d debut. Her manager didn't do shit and there were a lot of issues due to the language barrier, they didn't let her sing LMSH and she had to fight for it, didn't even have any help with choreograph so she just sit there and sang it. AND despite knowing beforehand that that song would cause DMCA issues they didn't do shit about it and her VOD got taken down for a day or so. No wonder Fauna doesn't want to go back to Japan and deal with that shit again. Useless fucking managers.
>>90740788This is what happens when you cheap out and hire the lowest 'qualified' people into middle management positions.Happens to many companies when they get big and have to cut corners to appease shareholders.
>>90740788its weird that ive literally never seen this mentioned anywhere before now. most members bad news like this is shared multiple times.
>>90740788Huh, so it really was just her manager.This definitely does track with how Moomin was treated when she was undergoing surgery, and how Towa doesn't like her current manager. Seems like the execs at the top demanded an overhaul of the managerial structure and replaced the ones the holos had comfortably known for years with stricter suits.
>>90740788USELESS FOOKAN MANNY CHAN AYYY AYYY FOOKAN DO SUMDING FOOKIN KUNTS
>>90740788have problems with managers > ask them to change their ways > they don't change > ask another manager for help > no help is given > go to a person that's above themwhy are they so autistic to just piss me off?
>>90743036management complaints are very normal, if someone tried to screenshot every complaint by Kiara about management it would take days
>Management continuously fucking over a talent with incompetence and negligence >Signs that they want out of the company months in advance>Fans don't have the will to speak about it because they'll be called schizo anti>It all starts getting aired out but the corpo slaves continue to bend the kneeGolly gosh, where have I seen this before?I'm sure this is a first time incident and it's absolutely not a repeat of dogshit management.
>>90741689Crazy that the company actually prefers to keep these shit managers over the moneymakers.
>>90743768And just like Niji, Cover has shills /here/. They even peddle merch. >>90720446
>>90743796Anon, they kept the Redo Of Healer manager in the company. If they can keep an actual sexpest, they'll keep an incompetent manager too.
>>90743796Its always been one of their main problems from the start with keeping around shit managers.
>>90743796Filthy gaijin are no match for thousand-folded steel Nippon managers
>>90740788I'm sure she'll be able to handle all the networking and shit when she goes back to being an indie. Everything will always work perfectly, it was always just management specifically targeting her because they hate her. Absolutely.
>>90741392That's not what the post you're replying to is saying ESL faggot.
>>90743796Maybe the managers think if they get rid of all the talents that they'll be the ones sitting in front of the camera and Cover's audience would be thrilled to hear about their ideas.*strange thumping noise as someone gets ran over*
>>90740788>Fauna's song with mumei vanished into the void >Full Color by Gawr "Face of Western vtubing" Gura also gone to the void >Ina kicked out of Japan bc visa oopsie>Shiori saying it occasionally takes months to get ideas approved
>>90744886STFU you actual ESL retard. OP probably didn't proofread his post. It's only one word, everything else is fine and any EOP should understand it.
>>90745189Naw, there are some that actually want to help out the talents but also there are those that just want to do the bare minimum which are the troublemakers. I didn't know her situation with her manager was this bad so I wouldn't be surprised if she asked for a new one and they denied it which caused her to leave.
>>90743796You now remember that Mel's manager wasn't fired but simply shifted around.Not a god damn thing changed in years.
>>90745695And then they fired Mel.The Taimanin manager won.
Fauna was right
Kiara raves about her personal manager, right? Why dont all the girls just share her.
>>90745189They made jp talent sit and laugh at their jokes on the official jp channel.
>>90745583I could easily imagine she finally mustered up the courage to request a new manager and was told to "try to work it out" instead. I would quit on the spot if that happened to me. Cover is great in a lot of ways, especially for a Jap corpo, but their shitty management has always been a major point of criticism.
>>90745583Hololive production was a very bad idea mixing two entirely different managers and staff was retarded.
>>90746173No way. That's Stalin tier shit.
>>90746173That was my favorite video. Basically pressed a gun to their back as they made a bunch of jokes that makes Dane Cook look like Dave Chappelle Everyone in the comments hated it.
>>90746173>>90746442link?
>>90746417https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nexhYTQCDygCheck out the comments
>>90741318>problem of one or two higher upsA single bad apple spoils the bunch. There's a reason it's a company's duty to fire incompetent trash into the sun. It's because one retard working at your business fucking things up makes the whole thing collapse if you don't deal with it. Evidently they didn't get rid of these fucking morons if shit like this keeps happening.So everything is fucked. Since now you never know if your requests are going to go through one of those worthless sacks of shit. Therefore now you never know if the things you rely on to work yourself will ever actually get done. Therefore you cannot trust company process to deliver acceptable results.
>>90746483>>90746503
>>90746173I remember when this board screeched for a dozen hours, because it's JP so nobody really cares, about how "it was all made up by the antis" or some other self-fellating shit. Which is weird, because as mentioned in that very same sentence, it was JP so nobody cares. What the fuck was the point of that kind of pathetic counter-argument about something fans just didn't like, because they watch Vtubers to get away from the schlock that is Japanese TV's cult of personalities and shitty jokes?
>>90740788WAIT WHAT HAPPENED? D:
>>90746057Kiara is probably a full time job
History repeated itself...
>>90746503>>90746562thanks
>>90746503Thanks
>>90746733>>90746939Make sure you report back and let us know how much you laughed.
>>90740788the goal is to keep making threads like this in rapid succession so people get sick of the topic and then nobody cares anymore
>>90743768But does HoloEn have the equivalent of the corruption of an Elira clique?
>>90747042This is going to be like batat watching normie YLYL isn't it?>where is the funnies? Please let me out already
>>90747042I didn't, I'm of the same opinion with the jp comments.
>>90747265I think Elira clique gets a bad wrap. When a workplace is cursed by fucking awful managers who can only do exactly what they're told to do by their boss (slowly) and atrocious official processes, the only way for a company to be capable of continuing to run is if the workers get together and invent a parallel set of systems to keep things operational.Elira and friends unironically saved NijiEN for a pretty lengthy period of time.
>>90746057doesn't she have the same manager as gura and ame. gura was meh with her and ame actively hates her and fought to get new one pretty early on.
>>90747363Congratulations. You're not a drone.>>90747265I think this version of the clique is the managers fucking with talent as frequently as they are.>>90747561You will never get me to feel sympathy for Elira after that black screen video.
>>90747213 you must be new here that has never workedif anything it just makes people hate hololive harder
>>90745695I've brought that up multiple times over the years and always got called a liar/Nijisanji fan despite the notice Cover put out literally saying he was reassigned rather than fired.
>blindly always blame managers>always hear the talents crying over manager>never hear managers side of the storyIdiots thinking its only one side thats the problem. Remember coco? Remember how the corp did everything on her behalf to protect her dumbass? And then she bailed off to another company. Fauna aint 100% innocent in this.We always hear the talents crying about the mean ole mangement but not the other way around.
>>90749037That's precisely why everybody is so curious about the reason of graduation.You can't tell me that Mumei, Bae and Gura didn't try to make her stay, this must be some colossal woman moment.
>>90749284>You can't tell me that Mumei (...) and Gura didn't trylol
>>90749284>Mumei GuraThey're the ones she close with and they're not on.
>>90749037managers exist to serve the talent, not the other way around. managers are disposable and replaceable, talents are not. cover does not realize this.
>>90749037Coco complained about Hololive's management. Then she bailed and got a manager who she likes and constantly says nice things about. Then she became Henya's manager and Henya always says nice things about her. Then she became manager for Nova and all of them seem to like her so far. Because she actually works for the talents and is competent.
>>90750033those that fail to heed the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat them the talants are what made hololive if hololive can't see this then they deserve to fail in the west just like kuorsanji
>>90747875I get it, what Elira did once it all started coming down was seriously fucked up.But there's something that really stuck with me about the aftermath of Feb 5. Why were there people constantly vagueposting "hurr durr Selen was not as good an angel person as everyone thinks she is"My rrat is that not even sisters are insane enough to push that angle. From an outside perspective that argument was obviously going to fall flat. My rrat is that argument was coming from within by niji/here/tubers.So what would be something that /here/ tubers could not say /here/ that would also offer a rational explanation for why they would bully someone to suicide? Or perhaps more accurately, bully someone intentionally, but accidentally too far.Going back to the parallel process rrat, such a system would necessarily require additional off-contract work to keep functional. So what would be expected from organs using it, is they all put in some of their own time to keep it running whenever they find free hours. That way, when a specific organ is very busy, say because they're planning a major event, everyone else is chipping in a bit of their time to make it work.Selen was unintentionally sabotaging this system. She planned too many events, overtaxing the other organs, and if the clique was so unfathomably pissed they can't even comprehend people sympathising with her, Selen probably didn't give anything back (probably because she was always busy).But now there's a problem. Because this is an unofficial system, they have no avenue of official disciplinary procedures. Their only options for rectifying this are exiling and bullying.
>>90749037>Remember how the corp did everything on her behalf to protect her dumbass?Banning her ftom collabs isnt protecting her, its throwing her under the bus to make their own jobs slightly easier.
>>90740788
>>90743796Anon... the acrylic keychains are the moneymakers. Not the streamers.
>>90750434Its really more that elira spent too much time trying to build an empire out of sand for her and her friends to find shelter in, and then lashed out in anger when the wind inevitably picked up and knocked it over. Its not an unreasonable line of logic, but it is stupid.
>>90750434The reason the "um selen is actually bad too" angle worked was because it's an extremely basic level of deflection and it's easy to assume that every last woman who works in this industry could be an insane narcissist. This is a very elaborate rrat, but it's retarded.
>>90750033Honestly they should just change their names to executive assistants with how big their ego grows by supposedly being a manager of Holo talents.
>>90747561>I think Elira clique gets a bad wrap.They did, prior to this year. The word you could say about them is nepotism, which isn't a bad thing in this part of the world because that's the entire fucking point of becoming a corporate vtuber. Almost nobody is a no-name with no connections. Not to say her's wasn't the worst of the worst of nepotism because it was, but that was legitimately their only crime.Then they turned out to be a ring of bullies on top of that, and that's where anyone sensible drew the line.
Remember when Gura asked if she could play a game and essentially got called a greedy bitch by a manager
Remember when the only two male vtubers who made money outside of Nijisanji destroyed their careers because they hated management so much
>>90749037>Remember coco? Remember how the corp did everything on her behalf to protect her dumbass?I don't remember that because it didn't fucking happen. Like >>90750033 said, management are the shitwipers for the important thing that is the talents. Management does not deserve a voice. If they want one, maybe they should become a vtuber.
>>90749037>Remember how the corp did everything on her behalf to protect her dumbass?I remember then taking a list of Zhangs she wanted banned and making them all mods LMAO
>>90749037>cover>protected coco
>>90751312Yeah, those managers aren't doing their jobs.
>>90751440>If they want one, maybe they should become a vtuber.Like A-chan?
>>90751689Yep.
>>90749037>did everything on her behalf to protect her dumbassSo much so that they banned the wrong people in the chat when she was getting raided and made her have a breakdown on stream.And then decided to treat her like Chris Benoit until she got the hint that it was time to leave.
>>90743796You don’t fire people in Japan. It just isn’t done. You’d have to commit some heinous felony short of murdering and raping a school bus of kindergartners or having an ounce of weed on you.
>>90745189I’d watch that. I like japanese office ladies.
>>90752427So you're saying some kinda sexual crime is one worth firing someone over, correct?
TOTALMANAGERDEATH
>>90750033One day you’ll realize that the talent is the most replaceable aspect of the entertainment industry. I don’t think it’s right, but it’s the way it is.
>>90750955Doki is bad too, but she’s not comparatively bad to the rest of the clique. Literal psycho shit that bordered on illegal was going down on the regular and everybody got away with it.Selen was the victim in that case, it does not mean she is perfect or was without any fault in her tenure at niji. But it is a heinous sisterly cope to claim that the clique is over-hated and “selen was bad too.”
>>90751258Dumb reddit drone.
>>90750598Yeah, the insight is that Cover should give all new talents pamphlets with detailed steps on how to swap incompetent managers and that they're expected to do that if their manager is shit
>>90752705In Japan? No. Mel’s manager stalked her and sexually harassed her. Allegedly, raped her. But Mel is a grown woman so she was practically asking for it in the eyes of the Japanese legal system. Yagoo was very proactive compared to the standard response from a Japanese company to these kinds of things.
>>90743796>Crazy that the company actually prefers to keep these shit managers over the moneymakers.That's part of the retarded japanese corpo culture, you might be fucking hyper incompetent but they'll just shuffle you around if you have been long enough thereIf you go with it to it's logical extreme you end up with "madogiwa zoku" employees that cannot be trusted with anything serious so they sit on their assess and watch through the window all day in hope that this is embarrassing enough for them to quit themselvesI suspect that some of the EN managers might fall in that category, useless on the japanese front but shuffled over because they know five words in english, and this applies for most JP companies, not just vtubing
>>90749037I almost gagged reading this bait. Well done retard.
>>90752951You're correct, but it's the audience (or in the Internet age the audience's attention) that decides which talents are replaceable and which are not. Managers are replaceable from the perspective of the company.
>>90741735YWNBJ
>>90745608Mumei disliked her old manager, but I think she likes Kroma.
>>90746057JEnma was her personal manager, but now she's training a new one.
>>90746057Kiara is the manager trainer. If they can handle Kiara they can handle anyone.
>>90747265I doubt it. The Elira cliqued worked by having EN talents who were fluent in Japanese and lived in Japan. All the EOP talents had to go through the clique and since the managers were JOPs, they did all their communication through the clique too, this completely screwed over the EOPs in Niji. I don't think Bae, Mori or IRYS would do shit like that.
>>90747213I already don't care. The girls statement was enough for me.
>>90752892Numberling...
>>90744821>I'm sure she'll be able to handle all the networking and shit when she goes back to being an indieMint, Doki and Sakuna seem to be doing fine though the later two have complained loudly about the amount of work they have to do despite being just an indie>it was always just management specifically targeting her because they hate herIt's not management targeting her because they hate her specifically. Whatever is Cover's management governance Fauna and other vtubers having issues with managers got assigned the most dysfunctional parts of management.And no there's no way of knowing beforehand who's gonna be a competent and who's gonna be an incompetent manager. Take Doki for example. She's practically a one man company and even she discovered too late that a guy she hired was a fraud who fucked up and delayed her merch shipping by months. Now imagine that kind of guy appearing all over Cover. Even few incompetent managers being in the wrong place in the wrong time can fuck up months of talents' work by e.g. screwing up with permissions, copyright, 3D studio access or whatever.
>>90754995No, EN has been set up different from the start. For starters, no one in Myth previously knew each other. And two of the five members lived in Japan and could speak Japanese. They also had no expectations for success or making money, they were genuinely fans (except in Mori’s case she was just trying something new). They also had very hands off management but they were also more self sufficient and self reliant, they didn’t need a bottle neck to talk through to get things done.All of this is pointless though because none of them were BPD psycho assholes with plans to get their terminally online friends into hololive from the beginning. Niji fucked up from the start and didn’t even know it.
>>90755526That guy would get caught faster in a company. Just saying.
>>90755526Fauna is easy to manage so they sent her the shitttiest manager they have. Think of it like league of legends matchmaking
Cover is not and will never be perfect. There will always be some absolute pants-on-head retarded decisions comong from someone in the company. Just look at the simple fact that FWMC said they had to FIGHT to get an English version of their ASMR recording released becase management didn't think it was worth it, to two talents in the English branch. Who the fuck is that retarded?
>>90755704>t. never worked in a company beforeIn a company there are more ways to hide your incompetence or laziness and get paid for doing nothing if you're creative enough, and those ways increase exponentially the bigger the company is.
>>90753542>Yagoo was very proactive compared to the standard response from a Japanese company to these kinds of things.You mean by doing nothing until a legal threat was pressed against his company? Seems standard procedure to me, not him being proactive.
>>90740855fpbp
>>90750033Cover has an obligation towards it's employees not just contractors. I don't know the specifics regarding Fauna and I have been critical of managers with cases like Ina's visa but this is not healthy on your part.
>>90740788Why can't they suspend managers?
>>90745805Who wants to bet the "company secrets" Mel leaked was her talking about getting sexually harrassed by a manager and them still working in the company?
>>90747265Yes, the Miko clique is what Rushia was complaining to Korekore about which got her fired. Do your reps
>>90758788cover's managers have obligations to the talents which they are, evidently, miserably failing to fulfill. in spite of this, they are continually rewarded even when they sexually assault the talents.
>>90746503the bootlicker nation had more balls to call out Cover's bullshit than the EOPs, why is that?
>>90741689Does anyone have a link to what they're talking about specifically here? I'm having trouble finding it.
>>90743267It always has been, you got swooped up by opportunistic shitposters. Now they're going to not do anything to fire that bastard
>>90746503Glad to see the Holodrones aren't nearly as prominent in JP
>>90742997I need timestamps for this if any saplings are available
>oh nooo I have to dance boohoo woe is me better post another asmr meme gay shit >oh nooo I dont get to play flavor of the month game boohoo woe is me better post another asmr meme faggot shitkill fauna fat bitch
>>90760630It was when her manager didn't fucking tell her she had confirmed perms for Dark Souls until TWO WEEKS AFTER it went through. Meaning she only had about a week to play it before she had to apply for perms again.
>>90740788Not taking accountability for fucking up and ignoring someone being upset is normal at Cover, and it's culturally insensitive to be upset at a Japanese company for practicing it you fucking racist
>>90761061I understand but I need a timestamp in the VOD itself so I can manually link it for future posting/documenting
>>90745695Fuck, dude, you're right. You are an OG
>>90761204https://youtu.be/dtE1JW5ELFU?t=124
>>90761204>14th august>03:03>03:10
>>90749037Motherfuckers are really doing Coco revisionism, pathetic.
>>90741318What do you expect her to say? "Every manager at Hololive is shit and I'm going to graduate in 2025"?
>>90759375honestly? I believe this rrat
>>90759375I mean. It lines up with their reasoning for why they fired Rushia
Anyone have a link talking about Fauna wanting to join the hardcore minecraft server and the manager fucking up? I have Kiara talking about it but can't find the link in Fauna's
>>90741315>every reply are sapcucks
>>90761809 (me)The reason why I believe it is because Mel was recently collabing with people outside hololive. There was a huge likelihood, she gossiped about being trapped and sexually assaulted by her former manager to outsiders, hell maybe even more despicable bullshit.So when the outside chuubas heard this gossip, it spread and Cover realized it. The only source of it was likely Mel, so they confronted her, admitted it, and let her go because maybe the guy who sexually assaulted Mel was in power of influence. This is why everyone was sad.Cover likely protects shitty managers and never does anything to protect their talents from abuse, neglect, and being hurt. They're never known for having good managers, only hiring good talent.
>>90762086 (me)The longer Cover ignores these real issues, the more I might go full anti on them
>>90762086I wonder if certain talents had to / have to offer sexual services to staff / investors to stay afloat (or for some big projects). It's entertainment industry with big money involved, after all.
>>90760434I don't disagree that they have fucked up but I don't know which one fucked up or how exactly they fucked/which straw broke the camels back. You're being an emotional and hysterical women
>>90749037love hololive, but you're fucking delusionalthe only thing holo did right with the whole coco situation wax axing HoloCN. it was clear Coco's manager was actively working against her to get her to quit- ban asacoco- ban EN collabs- mod her antis so they can ban her paypigs- conveniently "forget" to ask her to participate in a big JP collabkson is such a big vshojo shill now because her new manager gave her the most basic of basics from what is expected of a manager
>>90752951Manager-san could you please review the girls perm requests instead shitting on them here kudasai
>>90750598some incompetent coworker fricked up big time on a certain time... it was blatantly his fault, and the mistake can be easily avoided if only he did THE BARE MINIMUM of his responsibility.>Boss told me to cover his ass.I said no. I'm busy on my own tasks in that same project.>Boss mentions the wise-ass saying about being on the same boat, and we will sink together if I didn't help fixing the hole caused by the other person.I said I'd rather let the boat sink, hopefully dragging that incompetent idiot to the bottom of the sea, rather than letting him live and endanger others in the future. don't worry about me, I may won't come out unscatched, but I'm confident enough I could survive this sinking boat.got yellow slip later. don't care. company had to spend quite a bit of extra resource to recover from that mistake, their fault for employing incompetent nepo-hire.tl;dr: I hate those stupid propaganda. point your finger at the incompetents and kick them out.
Is it bad form to time stamp link to a member's only stream? As long as you don't outright clip it directly to youtube.
>>90759375People seem to believe it was the Dodgers stuff which led to Niji getting that shitty NBA deal, but Niji had already worked with that site for years prior and even if they hadn't they wouldn't have had enough sway to pull that one out of a hat within mere months. Plus there's the fact that Mel logically wouldn't know about it as the entire lineup was basically just a handful of people and it was only the blue ones. All of that combined with the fact that in the proposed scenario with what's her face that she off-collabed with would have had to physically take Mel's computer/laptop/phone out of her hands to get the information AND somehow send it somewhere else without Mel ever knowing until AFTER the fact? It never really made sense to me.Not saying this rrat makes much sense either, it doesn't, I just don't believe that original rrat. I genuinely don't believe the information that was shared was anything huge or even mattered in the first place, just the fact that it was under an NDA was. Which includes literally everything under her activities as a Hololive member.
>>90753163How is Doki bad? She pays artists and partners, make other people participate, band up with other indies, give fair treatment. Is not being a pushover being bad? I guess this is the same line of thinking some hologirls are going for with all the deflection and damage control.
>>90763334you are saying absolutely nothing.
>>90765968Catalog probably told him that, the worst you can say about her is that she's retarded sometimes and her fanbase is retarded literally all the time.
>>90753542Wow, defending rape and sexual harassment if your favorite corporation does it. Can you be more of a fucking cuck?
>>90766274Saying nothing is better than being emotionally led to the wrong conclusion
>>90745695Wait what? I thought all cover managers were fired and replaced with women after the Mel sexual assault incident. That shit can't be true.
>>90766764Knowing Japan, the reassignment was probably a promotion too.
>>90766764The very same announcement that revealed it to us explicitly said the guy was not fired, he was simply not Mel's manager anymore.
>>90765014I'm fortunate enough have a no-nonsense boss and executive above him. The one piece of advice that the executive gave me is for dealing with the "lazy fucking sacks of incompetent shits" is to take away their excuses until they're only left with just not wanting to do it because lazy as the only explanation and to do it visibly in front of whichever manager they're fucking over. This then causes the manager over the lazy shitbag to either kick their ass for you or reallocate resources to help them if it's actually a workload issue. If it happens too much, the c-suites if they're not retards will start getting shitty with the lout's manager and then either the lout will be thrown under the buss or the manager booted for someone less shit. If the c-suite is retarded they'll just ignore it and you need to either politic the lazy fucker out of the company or get out yourself. As for the shitty propaganda image, it does hold true when you have a high fidelity company where everyone has a good work ethic. But if you already have that, you don't need that retarded propaganda shit.
>>90766764Why the hell would you ever think that? I've never once heard this theory before.
>>90762086>trapped>sexually assaultedJust how bad was what Mel's manager did to her? This sounds like a serious crime, not just "mismanagement".
>>90761061>Meaning she only had about a weekI'm more surprised by the fact that permissions are so short, especially for a franchise that is so well-known and replayable. I knew Japanese IP lawyers were tightfisted but I didn't realize they were this miserly.
>>90767943They're not. Only Hololive has this issue with one-stream-perms. It has nothing to do with the people they're asking perms from, it is exclusively Cover's terms.
>>90768089Sorry, I meant to say one-week-perms. Same different, point is that's not a Japanese copyright law thing and you can look at literally any other japanese company to see that's not the case. Perms are "you are given them until they are revoked" and that's it, barring another MAGES scenario.
>>90752427I swear this is the only person ITT who has an inkling of how Japanese companies work.
>>90740855How the fuck would working more fix incompetent management? Retard
>>90752951>One day you’ll realize that the talent is the most replaceable aspect of the entertainment industryNot in such a visible form of entertainment as streaming. Every time you see someone have a miserable time in one company, then they reappear somewhere else much happier it's very damaging to a brand that tries to sell itself as a happy friend group. Pomu and especially Selen leaving is what killed NijiEN, but even just Nina and Mysta choosing to leave and talking about how happy they were in VShojo shattered a lot of people's positive impressions of Nijisanji. Every miserable Holo that becomes a happy indie is a big problem for Cover, and that problem becomes massive if they form their own box by collabing with eachother because it ruins Hololives image as a fantasy dreamland with no problems, and shows that there's a world outside the box.
>>90768304now follow the reply chain and you'll see he does not in fact understand a single thing about japanese companies
>>90768790>Every miserable Holo that becomes a happy indie is a big problem for Cover, and that problem becomes massive if they form their own box by collabing with eachother because it ruins Hololives image as a fantasy dreamland with no problems, and shows that there's a world outside the box.I don't quite agree with the "form their own group" part of it because there's no need to do that, with pretty much the only ex members being ones who were already friends prior + adding one more into their group, but generally speaking you've got the right idea that there's no world where not keeping their talents happiest isn't the best scenario.Maybe they could start by cutting all homework by 90%.
>>90740788Judging by what we actually do know, there are worthless direct talent managers in the company and that could be explained by the fact that there simply isn't enough manpower on that.
>>90768089>>90768244If that is the case, then I fail to see the rationale behind securing such piecemeal permissions instead of going for the biggest slice they can get away with. Nobody benefits from the pointless busywork of having to work out a renewal every couple of weeks. If the managers want to look busy in front of their superiors, I'm sure there are plenty of less obvious ways to falsify productivity.
>>90769252It's because, and this is a simple answer to a much more complex one that at this point doesn't need to be said;Cover is fucking retarded. Especially in regards to perms, for obvious reasons.
