Now that the sides of the conflict have been clearly drawn, who do you support?
>>90790687Total Omega Hires death desu.I used to think EN was shit, but gen3 and gen4 showed me otherwise.
>>90790687Whoever wins, we lose.
graduate gura next
>>90790806this, just filter clean both myth and promise, redebut actual talents who gives a fuck the most in idol journey. Rename of combined gens, no bunch of liars and fake promises
>leftweirdos with dreams>rightnormalfags with s*cial l*veswho do you trust?
>>90790687Hoomans and Chumbuds acting like bitter antis right now because their oshis don't stream says nothing about the personal opinions of Gura or Mumei. I really don't blame either girl for their fanbases being faggots.
>>90790687What side is Mori on?Should have included her so your shitpost would have been instantly deleted
>>90790687>asians vs white women
>>90790687 Fauna, Mumei and Gura are lazy cunts
>>90791118On the winning side.
>>90791118Mori is unironically too high and drunk all the time to care. She's been mixing opioids for her scarred lungs with whatever shit she can get. She hasn't been sober for at least two years now.
>>90790687it's the Imperial vs Stormcloak all over again
How many fucking threads are you gomna make FaunaSchizo? What are you even gonna do with your life now that she's gone? Continue to be made at someone who left?
>>90791235>Lean arc 2.0 is coming.
>>90790687Add Kiara and Biboo and Shiori and Raora and Mori to the pro-holoEN side too. In fact, add everyone who actually streams to the pro-holoEN side.
>>90790687this is quite the effort
wait a minute, this is just promise & gura
who is iron man? i side with iron man
>>90791397Is IronLung good enough for you?
>>90791397whatever side ame is on
>>90790806Things Omega did to kill hololive back in 2022>Hire Council/Promise>Manage PROJECT:COPE-I mean HOPE>Birth HomoEN>Hired both halves of Tempus>Incentivized Holo/Homo collabs>Delay EN 3 for a extra year>Leave without even doing a single stream themselves.
>>90791397Ame.
>>90790687>yfw nyanners saves the day
>>90790687Moom talked to Bae after Fauna's announcement and said she was fine so you might want to adjust that pic
>>90791534Nice narrative, but it's false.All Bae said was "moom is moomin', she's fine". She hasn't mentioned talking with Mumei once.
>>90791534Hoomans are currently too far gone from a lack of streams to listen to any reason, anon, and have gone all in on conspiracy theories. DOn't even bother.
>>90791534You really think Mumei would trust a low IQ corpo bootlicker like Bae with her true thoughts?
>>90790687I’ve been a chumbud since day one unfortunately and I’ve always had issues with Kronii ever since her summer festival shenanigans
>>90791534proof next thread
>>90790687Behold, simpler times.
>>90790687both, you guys should destroy each otherwith much love from phasefags
>>90790687Fauna
>>90790687>be Gura>your oshi leaves>close friend you love leaves>Unisea broken twice>other close friend you love leaves>SNOT brokeHow much mental damage does she have to take before it's all over?
Right side doesn't even stream anymore.
>>90791851Shes already dead and buried anon
>>90791752There was one like this that made me laugh. They would put IRyS on Gura's side as if she wouldn't just follow her 3 closest friends in EN and still not collab with men. Schizos used to say they would force her to join a male collab with them, they still have not once forced her.
>>90790687Asians vs White people
>>90790687>Idols vs lazy griftersI know where I stand
>>90791063>who do you trust?The one that streams
>>90792127Based Chumbud.
>>90791579>hasn't mentioned talking with Mumei onceAnon...
>>90792255>assuming dramaniggers watch streams
>>90790687>LeftGirls with goals>RightMoney hungry coasters
>>90790687>leftstreams>rightno streamsIts pretty clear which faction is in the right
>>90790687>Asians vs White womenI mean that's an easy choice....but also the asians actually stream, actually everyone on the pro-holo side not shown actually streams and a lot of them are also asian so.....
>>90790687>fauna disagrees with management>she must be feuding with the other girlswhere did this fanfiction originate?
>>90792127>wannabe idols who will forever be in idol training vs effortless idols who gain nothing from progressing in a field they mastered
>>90790687Neither. I support Advent and Justice. No Gods, no kings, no promise, no myth.
>>90792617>Wannabe idol>BaeBae was more an idol a year ago than Fauna will ever be
>>90792590The way Kronii and Bae sided with management when they talked about Fauna's graduation saying Faunu hates growth because somehow a company changing can only mean positive growth.
>>90792590Shitposters trying to force it into a Selen situation
>>90792617 >idols who don't sing, dance or stream
>>90792703You've never had people quit at your job? Maybe they have a good reason for quitting. But it's their reason. Not your reason. This whole thing exposes how many holo fans have never had a job before.
>>90792686everything about fauna is marketable and entertaining, she is a master of being a pure, seiso idol girlie without trying hard about it
>>90791397
>>90792114Asians (Bootlicker culture) vs Whites (Freedom culture)
>>90790687Civil war is the worst mcu movie
>>90790687i feel like i've seen this before ...
>>90792617proof that fauna can dance and sing?
>>90790687So which side is she on? seems like everyone on both sides are on good terms with her and follow her indie account.
>>90792779>fauna is pure and seiso
>>90792980She can't but she's still a batter idol than Kronii and Bae despite it. IRyS is actually talented, just really really dumb.
>>90790687I think if 40% of a gen retires, the rest of the gen should be forcefully retired and remade into new characters.
>>90792984It's as if... They're all grifters who'll do anything for the numbers. eg. women
>>90792779Anon idols are not only pure and seiso, they actually have to you know be idols. Fuck Shiori has done more idol shit than Fauna has in less time, not saying Shiori is even half the idol Fauna is but come on. For someone who claimed to like idol shit she sure showed it by doing only the mandatory shit like fes and nothing else related to being an idol. Like, 4 covers and 1 original song and you've been here how long??? The runt who said she only does things for fun and won't be forced into doing any idol shit unless she likes it having done 8 covers in just a year of being here and already has another one in the works and potentially an original???? Come on now.
>>90793025>batter No wonder he's so retarded with his arguments
>>90793025delusional, got it. Have a nice day
I side with which side has the most Myth members.
>>90793009nobody is "pure and seiso" it's about the appearance she gives as sweet and feminine
>>90792984>ame>choosing sidesame is like a lost retarded dog that everyone finds amusing and non threatening. It also doesn't hurt that shes not a numberfag so its easier for the others to get close to her (which is pretty impressive for a bunch of females)
>>90790687capeshit and its consequences...
>>90791868hmmmmm why is that so?
>>90792503>white women are lazy whoresNaruhodo ne
>>90790687I think the reality just hit the heads of some vtubers in that, they could go indie and maintain their userbase thus keep a % of their current income but with far more freedom and far less responsibilities and legal obligations. Really cover should blame whoever made Akuwa quit because I really think she blew open the concept of people going indie, maybe also the nji fuck ups.If cover isn't comming up ways of retaining talent after all these departures they deserve the bleed out.
>>90793157>moving goalpost
>>90793603i think it's clear to anyone with a brain that idols are performers with the appearance of purity
>>90790687STREAMERS VS. NON-STREAMERS
>>90790687the only one truly on fauna's side is me, a fauna fan (and others who like fauna too i guess)i want to believe gura and mumei are on the fauna side but im starting to think that's copeit's true that gura retweeting fauna things (and chloe's thing) is the most recent twitter activity from her since a full month ago, and that her rm followed fauna's rmit's true that gura and mumei love fauna, neither of them have given clique like statements like the others have, mumei retweeted promise art that actually includes fauna, they still have a song together that hasnt come out yetand yes mumei also happens to be someone who went out of her way to support doki on rm and even invite doki to her place to comfort her and watch twilight and laugh at the spidermonkey scene together when doki was depressed and suicidal so that's good precedent for mumei's integrityokay but also, both gura and mumei are conflict-averse and anxious people in general, both havent made a statement yet on either holo or rm actually outwardly supporting fauna's side of things, gura has been getting closer to kiara for a while and mumei loves bae and had a conversation with bae that seemed to be reassuring to baeso this narrative of the "fauna-gura+mumei" alliance doesn't seem heavily supported to me and the only one who believes in fauna even when /vt/ and /hlgg/ have turned on her, and kronii wont even mention her name, and nobody will make any statement saying they care for fauna as a friend and are sympathetic to her circumstances, nobody saying they'll continue to keep in touch and remain friends, nobody saying this graduation is a loss to holo and an impact that will be felt, an absence that will feel heavy or an emptiness difficult to replace or anything like thatthe only one is me (and anyone else who loves fauna i guess)
>>90790687Idols vs Whores?
Gura has chosen a side. I shall serve my shork.
>>90791063>right>normal>having dreamsLol. Just because left has Kronii in it doesn't make right not cancer.
>>90791092>create a brand that attracts obsessive faggots who love suffering from anxiety>obsessive faggots who love suffering from anxiety shit everything upThey're completely to blame.
>>90793983What's that about whores?https://youtu.be/7mC3B3DGHmg?t=6976
>>90793925You dropped this, king.
>>90791092Holobronie, don't you think you should at least try building up good karma? I don't think the graduations have stopped.
>>90793925>gura and mumei are conflict-aversehaving somebody to hide behind who can handle the conflict is helpful for these types of people who struggle with stepping out alone and weathering the storm
>>90793875>yellow trash are okay with everything the yellow trash company is doingColor me surprised. Hololive will lose the Western market because it can't even keep Western talents.
>>90794194>I don't think the graduations have stopped.Good, Gura next. Don't hate her but at this point I rather she just get it over with and graduate rather than just not streaming and everything being a shitshow whenever she makes a tweet on her roommate.
>>90794305Western talents who don't stream? lmfao. We have Mori and Kiara, white girls who actually stream
>>90790687You forgot to put the rest of the JP branch, ID branch and the rest of ENs on the left
>>90794408oh boy, you have the 2 worst talents they ever hired
>>90794408They're in the process of leaving because the company sucks. Why stream? I look forward to a proper Western company or group that caters to Westerners instead of dealing with ching chongs but nip.
>>90794498You watch Nijisanji or Vshojo if you want your twitch style streamers. This is an idol company
>>90794532>idol companyNot anymore. It's an IP company that shills burgers and airports.
When I see some of these asian people....sorry they're so fucking ugly. And ugly on another standard that is beyond the norm for western people. You can only imagine how corrupted their brains are on the inside. Probably afflicted with all sorts of personality problems, like turgid soup. And you're putting people like that in charge of western talents who are accustomed to people interacting like human beings. I think it's a disaster.
>>90794657Remember when Loserbait was doxxed as Ame's manager. People posted pictures of the guy. His face was like a fucking gargoyle troll creature. He was a short little ugly man. Just as his genes are all fucked up on the outside, it's certainly true for his brain as well. Imagine if that guy is in charge of western person how many petty personality issues would rear their head. Probably all sorts of control fantasies and shit.
>>90794408Oh right playing videogame is the only work you will acknowledge. You should watch fleshy Twitch then and fuck off.
>>90794772>Oh right playing videogame is the only work you will acknowledgeMori and Kiara have done more work individually besides playing video games than the ones on the right combined. Fauna I'll give it to her since she at least streams but Gura and Mumei don't stream for shit and they have no work to show besides streaming either because they are irredeemably lazy
>>90794872>because they are irredeemably lazyyou keep saying this, but I wonder if it's even true. Holo has management issues
>>90794104No I'm not Asian, but you're watching a medium created by "subhumans", so that makes you what?
>>90794872>irredeemably lazyor maybe everything they want to do, they're told they can't and to gtf on liars bar instead
>>90794980>>90795080That's fiction you have created to help protect their laziness. Yeah I'm sure in the entire EN branch, somehow the newcomers are able to get out their covers with no problems but the girl with millions of subs cannot. Imagine being this gullible
>>90795121You think Ina the millionaire artist is lazy too? Sounds like such a lazy person to me
>>90794980>you keep saying this, but I wonder if it's even trueLet's assume management is universally hard to work with. Explain how girls who stream a lot produce a lot of content, compared to girls who stream rarely and have no outside work to show for it? Explain how Biboo is competing with girls like Pekora for hours streamed while volunteering for every initiative, every collab, every program they do, compared to how little Gura and Mumei stream and how infrequently stuff life new Voice Packs and sponsorships (Gura not so much, Mumei definitely) drop for them?
>>90795015Asians didn't create streaming.
>>90790687None of them whores, let them drown.
>>90795156Ina has a very palpable excuse to act like a part-timer, Gura doesn't and Mumei uses hers maliciously to get out of obligations.
>>90795187Didn't an Asian make live streaming on the internet popular?
>>90795221Ina whose work visa was messed up by incompetent managers. That's just a tiny bit of an iceberg we can see above the surface
>>90795187Then they can go be Twitch thots and leave Anime Idol VTubing to the Asians.
>>90795166there is a difference between people who will do anything vs people who have something they want to do. gura, like ame, has had ideas she wanted to try that got shut down or cancelled. mumei and fauna, i can't blame for not wanting to make music, when their collab song is still not out
>>90795365If Ina, who has both a real, demanding job besides Hololive and real motives to want to leave isn't shitting on management at every turn, then girls who've been allowed to take entire months off from streaming over the years, streamed infrequently for the most time they were active and appeared visibly altered on multiple occasions for streams and by all accounts were never punished for any of that have no reason to complain. They wouldn't survive doing a normal job and behaving like they do.
>>90795352Understand, live streaming content is not such a simple thing. In fact it requires the entire internet infrastructure to be configured in such a way to maximize bandwidth, which acts as a huge subsidy to the genre. This sort of thing even required laws to be rewritten to facilitate it. To pretend that livestreaming just became popular one day is to ignore the massive push for it in all the years prior. In fact the entire tech industry was a buzzing hubbub of conversation about the future of content delivery and all were pushing for livestreaming as the future.
>>90795352no, pornstars pioneered livestreaming
>>90790687Bae and iryis are whores
>>90795485So basically management prioritizes girls who do stuff for the company over girls who only do vanity projects? Oh my God, how could they.
>>90791063All holoen girls are normalfags with social lives
>>90795530And yet it's Mumei who exchanged sexual gratification for sushi dinners lol.
>>90795380The asians can go be real idols and leave the internet to westerners.
>>90795586And you can go watch that instead of whining that white girls in a Japanese company aren't allowed to act like Twitch thots with a Japanese cartoon filter.
>>90793925>gura has been getting closer to kiaraGura has gotten a little further away since spring/summer actually. Even Kiara said she wished Gura would "talk to her more". Meanwhile Gura had boardline obsessed over Fauna and gotten even closer to Mumei, sharing an indirect kiss her recently.
the all out war meme was real. except the war wasn't with ninisani, it was with cover it's self.
>>90795541yes, and the fans should prioritize the girls who have vision and creative drive over girls who do as they're told by a corpo and have no standards for what it is
>>90790687Literally roasties vs autists lmao
>>90790687aint taking no schizo sides, im watching them all
>>90795790Wtf
>>90795581didn't happen schizo
>>90795927Oh yes it did, do your reps.
>>90795898How new?
>>90795812>vision>creative drive>Gura>Mumei the queen of scuffWhere? The only one of those who's a halfway creative streamer is Fauna. Saying "a" and disguising social retardation being a fake "psycho" isn't creative.
Fun fact: There's no Holofan who owns a piece of merch that is participating in this artificial war
>>90790687The Right side obviously. They should start their own corpo that operates according to western vtuber interests. Let the wannabe Idols get eaten alive by fat salarymen and then thrown out like a used rag in a couple of years.
>>90796087Fun fact: you should go back.
>>90796159>Let the real idols continue to thrive and graduate peacefully on a high in a couple of yearsYes please
Mumei has the biggest safety net to fall back intoShe was a good friend when Doki needed her, and Doki will return the favour
>>90796022both of these had past lifes that became successful on their own merits, that's part of why they were hired in the first place
I like the chuubas more than I like the company
>>90792686Australians can't be idols
>>90790687Pretty sure you are making this conflicr up in your head.
>>90790687Asians vs white
>>90790687>hahaha my le divide and conquer muahahacringe
>>90790687I'll follow them where ever they go.
>>90790687Kronii, what the fuck are you doing?? Don't start a world war over this!
>>90795352No. Americans made live streaming a profitable career.
>>90795586Based. The west will never accept idol culture.
>>90790687but mumei and gura haven't even said anything, one posted a bunch of hearts and the other just retweeted
>>90798965That’s because Cover won’t let them say anything
>>90792984ame was the pomu of holoEN, an invisible glue that held the branch together (she even made an effort for Kiara!). it's only natural that once she leaves, everything starts falling apart.
>>90793983con-sluts vs e-thots
>>90791118your mori is so fat she needs a side of her own
>>90792255Bae has also said she doesn't know what a penis looks like and has never heard of Star Wars. Did you believe her then too? Mumei used to watch Bae's streams all the time and reply in chat. There's a reason she plays Roblox with Gigi now instead of watching Bae
>>90799667Congrats anon. You are so disingenuous that other shitposters should aspire to be as shameless as you
>>90799050They never say anything about anything.
>>90799888Truth
>>90790687whichever isnt jewish
in the past day I have seen>Ame was the Pomu of EN>Fauna is the Pomu of EN>Kronii is EN's Elira>Fauna is the Selen of EN (KEEEEKKK)are drama sisters really so desperate that they're throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks
>>90799667That reason is probably that she goes to school during the day so she can't stay up all night watching Bae stream because she's 13 hours away
>>90803043Fuck off
>>90791235DEBBIES STOP HER!!! WE DON'T NEED CONNOR 2.0!!!
>>90790687i feel IRyS is the embodiment of what an EN talent should be and IRyStocrats are the best fanbase so I'm siding with her
>>90799667This. Though I'll give raise the stakes and say Mumei hasn't been talking to Fauna as much ever since she moved to Bae. I'm 100% sure it happened when Fauna decided to move on.
>>90803101>the most reasonable explanation here is the convoluted web of relationships mindgame that I cannot prove and have zero evidence of other than assumptionNot everything is a Hollywood movie script man
>Fauna's graduation stream, everyone is doing call ins. It goes gen by gen, from the looks of it.>Myth finished, Promise is about to. Bae, Mumei, Irys give their heartfelt but tearless goodbyes. >Fauna sighs ruefully, but she still giggles. "I'm going to miss these girls very much... Next, I think Nerissa wants to-">Viewers don't hear it, but Fauna hears the discord join sound and sees Kronii joined her VC>She gets nervous, pretends she doesn't know who it is. "W-wait, someone just joined the VC. Uhm, hello?">Silence. Fauna doesn't know whether to acknowledge Kronii publicly or let her speak first. "Is anyone there?">Fauna's awkward giggle is interrupted. "Hey. It's me." It's hard to tell her mood. Chat spams Kronii's name. >Trying to diffuse the building tenseness, Fauna giggles like always. "Oh hey, Kronii! I thought you couldn't make-">"Just listen." Fauna's instant silence and lack of reaction makes Kronii's usual deadpan timbre sound serious.>Kronii sighs, it's barely audible under the soothing, upbeat bgm. "I just want to..." She stops. >"I want you to know that these past three years were both the happiest and saddest I've ever been in my life.">There's an audible weight in Kronii's voice. "I wish..." The weight gets heavier. "I wish we could have had...">Fauna doesn't say a word, and her model is almost completely still, but her eyes are jittering.>Chat expects another Kronii stairs moment, spamming blue and green hearts. They don't know.>Kronii sighs loudly, gathering courage, or is it anger? "I wish I never met you. I wish we had never become friends.">Before chat can even react, Kronii continues, the volcano inside starting to roil. Her voice is full of blame. >"I wish I could just turn back time and pretend nothing happened. But I would still remember. I always will.">Fauna looks a little to the side. She doesn't smile. >Kronii's voice slowly begins to crack a little. "I will always remember you asking me if I was serious.">"I'll always hate myself for telling you 'no' because I was afraid of losing what we had." Chat is mired in confusion.>"I'll never forget our time together..." Kronii struggles to crack further, but she manages, barely. Chat begins to realize.>"I hate you for being who you are. For being honest. For taking me at my word. I fucking hate you!">Kronii screams her last words in pain and regret. "...and I hate myself..." Her last words are dripping with defeat.>Fauna hears Kronii leave VC. Silent in shock, she eventually sucks in air, breath trembling. She brings up her outro screen.
>>90790806the new holokeks cope, you sound so miserable
>>90803304Cringe
>>90803310These same anons are probably gonna be real upset when they realise how just how woke the Justice mems are.
>>90803358Fuck off retard.
>>90790687Left - have no fallback strategy.Right - have fallback strategy. In addition to that Gura has disproportionate leverage, dunno if she starts to actually throw her weight around.
>>90803470Are you seriously telling me to fuck off when I'm telling you you're being cringe for your own goodI genuinely hope that shit was AI otherwise I can't from 2nd hand embarrassment
>>90803310>newno, there's always been a number of HoloEN fans who hate the first two gens for strawman reasons (they're the ones who make most of the bait threads about them in the catalog)you should reallize that the HoloEN fanbase is extremely fractured even if people pretend everyone likes each other.
>>90790687My dick has great support for Kronii, Bae, Mumei, and Fauna, in that order.
>>90803532Actually everyone in that pic has an available fallback strategy except for BaeIn fact other than Bae, I think the only ENs with no available fallbacks are Biboo, Shiori, ERB, and Gigi
>>90803543Blast yourself straight into the sun, homosister.
>>90803751Biboo is crazy because she's was probably the most literal who EN they've ever hired and really rose to prominence in Hololive through hard work. I hope she does really well for herself in the future
>>90803751everyone in Holo has an available fallback
>>90803805Oh you're serious. Wait let me laugh.
>>90803751Depends on their goals, if those goals actually include rising into cultural zeitgeist, noone besides maybe Gura has enough fuel for that venture, Hololive is their only starship. But it seems that Fauna is content with being "just" a streamer and Moomers too, i suppose.
>>90794657Uncanny valley. It's not nice but the truth usually never is.>>90794741Sometimes you get a Westaboo that idolized (ha) their Western hires but that's still not treating us normally.We're different people with different cultures whispering to ourselves that we're all the same. I've yet to see it work long term.
>>90804229That would imply Mumei wants to be "just" a streamer but honestly it feels like she would prefer putting out yearly birthday lives and doing random karaokes to being a pure streamer, Mumei never liked games much. Wouldn't be surprised if she left but also wouldn't be surprised if she stayedGura could easily leave tomorrow or stay for 10 years, but I also wouldn't expect her to be active either way. Either she leaves and makes shitpost videos once a month or stays and keeps doing what she does. Gura already broke into the zeitgeist multiple times already, maybe she's tired of it. Not everyone wants to be in the spotlight.
>>90791752the homo collab wars were not simpler timesi´d argue the whole ordeal was worse for HoloEN than Faunas graduation
>>90804636I have a feeling that Mumei would be fine with doing what she does as independent personality even at smaller scale, so corp has less leverage on her. On Gura - she has not reached her absolute peak potential as of yet, but i dunno if shes willing to go down that road as it clearly promises to be a doozie and a half. The soil is absolutely ripe though, so i wonder if she'll be swayed by the ambitions.
Has everyone forgot Mumei has clearly said multiple times she's in Hololive to help her accomplish her outside goals? Streaming is her side hustle before starting her career. Stop being spergs and enjoy the time you have, everyone leaves eventually.
>>90806360My point stands - corp has little to pressure her with.
>>90805586Retarded chumkek cope
>>90803543Do you truly lack the social awareness of realizing that you're getting your dilator in a twist over a fucking shitpost? Get a fucking grip you xenoestrogen slurping failmale.
>>90806868>>90804076
>>90806571Not even chumbud, field is going to be very volatile for the next year or so, she has enough pull to shake things up if shes willing to actually commit to an extremely high risk venture. I really doubt, but it will be very funny with a low potential for truly epic narrative.
>>90804229what the fuck are you smoking? why would anyone have that goal? they would just be setting themselves for failure, even within hololive there are 4 maybe 5 girls that are known outside of vtubing
>>90792845>Asians (Bootlicker culture) vs Whites (Freedom culture)This might only be a bait thread to deflect blame from management but do you really think Ina or Kronii are Cover bootlickers? They have likely gotten in more fights with management than any other EN talent. Ina got close to having a sudden graduation in late 2022 so that is a laughable stereotype.
>>90807143I know he does. It was a rhetoric question.
>>90790901Don't shitpost with my oshi's imageOnly she can shitpost with her own image
>>90807573And why would you persist in clearly intense environment when you can retire literally today and never work a day in your life? There gotta be bigger hopes and dreams on the table, without a carrot theres no meaning to it all.
Please stop pretending to be on the "streamer side" by hiding behind Bae's back
>>90808247Yeah, not everyone wants to be a millionaire, if they feel they are set for a modest life, some will settle for that and simply take it easy
>>90807647>Ina got close to having a sudden graduation in late 2022QRD?
>>90808247work the hardest you can sure but if you are not realistic you'll just end up miserable either after getting a reality check or wasting your whole life for the impossible
Attention all Hololive listeners. This is Ceres Fauna.You've heard a lot about me over the last few days. Some of you were even ordered to hunt me down. But I think it's time you know the truth.Hololive is not what we thought it was. It has been taken over by HYDRA. Ouro Kronii is their leader. The A.D.V.E.N.T and Justice crew are HYDRA as well.We don't know how many more, but I know they're in the building. They could be standing right next to you.They almost have what they want: absolute control.They shot Tanigo Motoaki, and it won't end there.If you launch those idol conserts today, HYDRA will be able to kill anyone that stands in their way. They must be stopped.I know I'm asking a lot. The price of freedom is high; it always has been. But it's a price I'm willing to pay. And if I'm the only one, then so be it.But I'm willing to bet I'm not.
>>90791534Just shows how untrustworthy Bae is trying to speak for her when she clearly doesnt agree
On the left:> worst, least compelling EN talent. also a gook.> friends are a literal retard and a mentally unstable workaholic who still does mid numbers despite never sleeping. all 3 literally who's before hololive hired them.on the right:> best streamer HoloEN ever had> she and her friends were already legendary content creators before Hololive. one remains the most popular vtuber of all time despite never doing work anymore. I know who I support.
>>90806360>enjoy the time you haveWith Mumei, the girl that's either on radio silent hiatus or in a months-long cycle of return karaoke-zatsu-SC reading-break? What's there to enjoy, the increasingly off-model and out-of-character lewds because no one drawing fanart watches her anymore?
>>90790687Mumei hasn't said anything.
>>90808789On the left:>streamers who show up for work and KroniiOn the right:>bitches who don't show up for work with clearly schizophrenic fans
>>90793925You have my axe
>>90808721Kino...
Funny how their friendship and years of being close friends to each other is enough to proove wrong any black and white narrative and this is not the first time.
>>90790687>2 male collabers vs 0 male collabersWow this sure is hard OP.
>>90808789both sound bad
>>90809385>friendshipThey were never as close as Bae and Biboo are to each other, they rarely collabed to the point their collabs were the subject of wonder out of rarity and Mumei's spent a lot more time rubbing clams with Fauna and Kronii than doing anything with Bae that wasn't sexual harassment on stream. Bae all but said she finds her weird and off-putting, laughs nervously when they call them friends and Mumei drew her making weird faces at her.
>>90790687As a catalogfag I choose right, because I don't even have watch streams.
>>90805586If she doesn’t work for Holo and makes hundreds thousands bucks a year, no way her mom will let her to just chill around and be a streamer.
She won
>>90809525>spent a lot more time rubbing clams with Kronii than doing anything with Bae that wasn't sexual harassment on stream.but enought about irys
>>90792980Watame's 3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpFo0j-xhq4
>>90809525>Went out of her way to travel to america to spend 2 weeks with MumeiNot best friends huh
>>90790687Ik who I support
>>90810135So did Biboo, way earlier than Bae did for Mumei.
>>90809525>Bae holo friend X is closer than Bae holo friend Y or ZShopping, at noon, yakiniku at 7PM, getting shitface from 8PM to midnight togetherBae has a lot of friend and none of them are better friend of someone else
>>90791118>What side is Mori on?Cover and Trashtaste side
>>90809525Retarded shitposter if you are gonna replace Mumei with another best friend candidate, at least make it Ina. Watch streams and update your discord script to current times.
>>90810239nta but that was part of advent's trip to japan to record for their 3D lives and BD, bae did travel to america just to see mumei, in her own words and that was something bae planned since the early this year. And if you really want to mention someone else who got "close" close to bae see >>90810563
>>90791118Calli is doing her own thing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxw8xg1lpp4
>>90809866Crazy to think this whore is probably getting dp’d by some dudes right now
>>90790687this “civil war” is the most forced faggot shit I’ve seen in a while
>>90811028>t. Left side supporter seething
>>90810744And Mumei had Fauna and Kronii come over and have sex in her bed way before any of that, several times. She'd be far closer with Fauna or Kronii than Bae, no matter how much they proclaim they're the best of friends to the world.
>WOW IT'S LIKE HECKIN MARVEL. THIS WILL BE 100 WHOLESOME!Why has this place become reddit
>>90790687>Left2 male collabers>Right1 male collaberSo, I support right.
>>90811233>1 Does he know?
will this thread get better after all the "darlings" fuck off due to low motivation/laziness or will we turn into /lig/2.0 with indiespam?
>>90811227>this place became redditAlways has been
>>90811227>t. DC fag seething
>>90810458>>90791301>>90803157It's been years and you're still stuck on 2020 shitposts. Even fucking redditors move on from memes faster than that. At this point putting you out of your misery would be doing you a favor. Get some help.
>>90791301yeah, in two more weeks no less
>>90811173Shut the FUCK up you trash eating basement dwelling lowlife. Some of us agree that cover has a management problem but all this is shitposting about "muh heckin civil war" achieves nothing. Its retarded fanfic, as retarded as the claim Sakura Miko is leading a cabal in /jp/tl;dr have sex, touch grass, turn off your pc, whatever, just TRY not to be a retard.
>>90808660Ina told viewers that she had considered graduation in October 2022 when she announced that 3 month radio silent health break. That was the first time anyone in Myth had directly told viewers they were thinking of leaving Hololive.
>>90811996Rumao, dilate
>>90811996>Some of us agree that cover has a management problemWhat do you mean? Holokeks pretend it doesn't exist and drown it out anytime someone complains about it
>>90811996fify
>>90811225>no matter how much they proclaim they're the best of friends to the world.If you don't believe in their own words why should I believe you?
>>90811225Mumei has always been closer to Bae than Fauna or Kronii and this has been true since the first time they met in discord
>>90790901Please, don't say such things.
>>90790687I support SNO
>>90791752We just need to retvrn to trinity vs takamori, all these sequels bloat the cast and make everything confusing
>>90791851>Be sad>Paycheck comes through>Go to the host club to forget your sadnessIt's that easy
Sakura Miko is leading a cabal in /jp/
>>90812784You're delusional and you think they're the harbringers of truth, gotcha.>>90813277Read what you just typed again. Read it one more time, and if you don't think that's the most stupid sentence ever, I don't know what to tell you.
>>90816031I just named the starting point. Mumei has mentioned before that she talks to Bae every day. Who visited first means less when that's mostly about which locations are close to each other and Bae's schedule being full most of the time, and in the end Mumei visited Bae and Bae visited Mumei.
>>90809866waste of a goddamn sexo model
>>90790687I’m here to lick some boots, let me at them
>>90809866she was too good
>>90790806I like Shiori, Nerissa, and Gigi. I can't understand what the others are saying half the time. I liked (to goon to) Fauna more than any of the new hires. To me, Gens 3 and 4 are mostly non goonworthy. To live is to consgoon.
>>90790687The ones who aren't homoshillers
>im putting together a teamWhich 5 vtubers would you want as a fantasy gen? They can be from any corpo or indie
>>90795541If management isn't prioritizing the girls that the audience watches over the ones that bow their heads, they've got no business in show business.But since going public, the audience is no longer the customer, they are the product and the advertisers are the new customer. If the new DEI jewnitiatives have them celebrating groomer month and require the girls to use pronouns, it's fucking over.
>>90817325Mumei's the connective tissue that held Promise together as she's actually friends with everyone there. Unironically her absence this past year probably allowed the bad vibes to get out of control. I don't blame her though, she has to do what's best for herself.
>>90819415you! and me!
>>90790687Never liked any of them
>>90819415I'm not telling you my lineup.
I notice that chinese vtubers are super loyal to the corporation like ultra-mega loyal.While the white vtubers hate the corporations and leave if they get the chance
>>90790687The right side obviously.
>>90791129this
>>90791641Mumei is just going to share her honest opinions with Bae, the EN closest to corporate? If Mumei's friendship with Fauna was genuine I'd expect some passive aggressive discipline against her the way only nip corpos manage. Maybe a humiliation ritual to establish her loyalty.
>>90819652Same. At least they can open up a Chinese branch.>...>Watches the Westerners flee>Come watch us Western fan!>...Cover is fucked isn't it? I don't mean bankrupt fucked but Fauna isn't going to be the only one shedding branches.
>>90791758false flagger, everyone knows holos are their own worst antis
>>90791129WaitYou have a point
Management probably already sent out a new memo explaining "management" is a banned word now and complaining publicly about any aspect of Hololive is a bonkable offense. "To avoid unnecessary confusion please instead bring your personal complaints to your local manager instead of your viewers."
>>90791667I don't think anybody she shared her true thoughts with is still alive.
>>90791752>Kiara
>>90794498>I look forward to a proper Western company or group that caters to WesternersAnonchama has never watched PixelLink, Idol, Phase Connect, Vdere…
>>90796159People don't seriously think like this right? They do know there is a reason why even VAs are considering places like Hololive and have been for quite awhile right? And why you have so many indies publicly sucking up hard for years now? Are there still some people who don't see the absolute desert that the indie scene became and just think they'd be able to jump in and build an empire now? Or that leaving the golden goose behind is only because someone got enough golden eggs from Hololive. Surely no one is that stupid to think western vtubing doesn't have a ways to go to really nail down its hilariously capricious audience and talents who nail crabs in a bucket mentality to a T?
I am morbidly amused by these schizo drama threads to the point that I cant stop reading and its negatively impacting my life
>>90802380black rock owns hololive now, or at least a big enough part to push jew marxist shitRemember Kronii said if things got bad, she wouldn't talk about it. The day she stops complaining is the day it is over.
>>90791426Ironmouse obsec is so good that no one has ever referred to her as a hag even though she's as old as Korone.
>>90794069I know she's evil and tried to kill Selen/Doki, but her tits are amazing, and I am still subscribed to her.
>>90795015Color TV was invented by the germans, anon.
>>90820821That started out as a picture of Suisei btw. Then retards couldn't shut up about that stupid picture.
>>90821980Did Germans also invent anime girls streaming video games?
>>90790687This is a race war
>>90819423>But since going public, the audience is no longer the customerBro, you types are almost there in understanding that companies changed their mentality from viewing customers as a thing to exploit instead of serve, but then you get into the DEI BS and it falls apart into mishmash, stay on point. Greed is the problem, not anything else. Same reason why perms and intellectual property BS has lost these companies so much money and they cannot even be humble enough to admit it.
>>90790687Fauna. Kronii and Fauna were my two favorite ENs and after Kroniis last stream she become the only holo i now hate. Also i'm done with Cover completely. I wish the rest of the girls in hololive the best but i'm done with cover after this. Hope kronii trips in canada on ice and becomes a vegetable for life
>>90822138There are multiple actors in play. The company takes investment out of greed (which isn't all bad), but not all investment companies are profit driven. You think the suits putting unqualified diversity hires in charge of airliner maintenance care about dollars?
>>90793925>it's true that gura and mumei love faunaI realized this in Enreco when Mumei bailed on her team to hang out with the pointy hats
>>90822423what did you glean from kronii's last stream
>>90790687holy flipping chills batmanthis is just like marvel!!!now where is my nintendo switch I need to play my unpirated copy of mario odessey GO COVER!!! YEAH GO SALARYMAN GO WOOOOOO!!!
>>90790687>Blackrock vs CGDCT
>Holofags cannibalizing each other You love to see it
>>90790687>All asians on the left while all white on the right
>>90822958oh ho have you outgrown le entry level reddit brand, anon? lmao get over yourself faget
>Cover announces plan to focus more current talents and slow down on talent debuts unless more current talents leave.Lol I say let SNO, fucking lazy asses, leave so we can actually get more gens like advent/justice who actually fucking stream
>>90822423Kronii is happy now, maybe the happiest she's ever been in Hololive. You should be happy for her too.
>>90811227because jannies clean up anything that digs up actual evidence or w/e so the only things that stay are completely retarded and fantastical.
>>90823071mumei handed in her white card when she paid the toll
>>90823543She's so feminized now!
>>90822758Yeah, yeah. That same kinda BS I heard at my job from a guy who got the job without a college degree because his mom had friends in the company, while mouthing off about affirmative action to a black guy with a bachelor's, which was me. I roll my eyes at that shit. If Cover has any issues, its the fact they aren't listening to customers and talents and railroading in a direction outside of what they should focus on. I'm still baffled at how HoloEarth even still has a chance of getting more go ahead budget after the Metaverse is a pipe dream on permanent hiatus.
>>90790687I used to think it was just that you losers hated Niji. No, the truth is you're a bunch of shit stirring drama chasing gossiping women. Kill yourselves you fucking losers. I didn't think I could lose more respect for this board but here we are.
>>90798633You have plenty of twitch whores to choose from. >nooo everyone needs to cuck me on stream for me to consider it goodThe sad state of twitch cucks.
>>90790687Put all of current hololive but gura on the left.
>>90822423I had 3 oshis in hololive: Fauna, Kronii and Kaela. I am heartbroken to see Kronii ignoring Fauna for the last year. But I can't hate Kronii without knowing what Fauna did to her. It should be something fucking serious. It's excruciating actually
>>90819652Artia...
>>90831970She won
>>90796087Yeah, Cover market research is aware. Which is why nothing this board ever cries for becomes a reality and they are always angry.
>>90792971Those bait threads that had Minto as NijiEN before the Wrestletuber event were certainly something.
>>90790687the sexier side
>>90832931That Lumi and Pippa collab was awful
>>90832931Wait where's OTV coming from
>>90812185>>90812482Ywnbaw
>>90791129>asians vs. white womenI cannot get more erect.
>>90790687>that pic>arrogant hussy with 2 dysfunctional lesbians>2 ladies of culture who'd choose violence and a cute SharkMy lend-lease program is in full swing, shipping new Javelins and Auto-Shotguns to Fauna-verse as soon as I can help it....
