She was a flower, she wasn't one of the troublemakers like Coco or one of the menheras like Rushia, or the uninvested like Sana, or the ones who with grievances or split with their own side work. It makes no sense.
People spending too much time on the management complainThe real doozy is the "i love being an idol"Which is very funny since she's the one who did the less idol shit in the whole company
>>90802212>you will learn japanese>you have pointless meeting in JST>you will travel to japan>you will be a jpop idol
don't worry, her friends are going to follow after her soon
>>90802467She has friends??
>>90802625Yeah, me.
>>90802352>she's the one who did the less idol shit in the whole companyYou can be an idol in EN only if you are willing to uproot your entire life and move to Japan
>>90802212it makes sense. now they are hiring former jpop idols as vtuberseven in the newer EN set up it looks like they are going towards the idol route >Nerissa- can sing>FWMC-wanna be jpop idols>Biboo- already moved to japan>shiori (no clue)>liz- can sing>Raora-lives in japan>CC-plays instruments>GG (no clue but has done jp covers)
>>90802696She is not your friend
>>90802718Yeah retard that's why all her genmates did 3D lives and not her even tho half of them are NA
>>90802212We are in the season of holofes homework. I wonder if it's related somehow.
>>90802696Gura please talk to us
>>90802724Anon Justice is probably the EN gen with the worst singers in HoloEN apart from ERB who is fantastic but can't speak Japanese. Justice is also the only gen with 0 Japanese speakers, and no one there is a dancer either.There is no idol push, it's the same as before
>>90802766One solo live does not an idol make, my friend
>>90802212Based anon so misogynistic it doesn't even occur to him that a woman might have agency
>>90802212She wanted more money.
>>90802212She's a black talent, cover are better off without her
>>90802724Shiori has been doing whatever the fuck she wants since debut and said nothing is changing for her. Also>plays instrumentreally?
>>90802936gigi is a dancer (evil ass devilish information from the depths of hell)
>>90803273Prancing and galloping is not what I meant by dancing, I meant more like Kiara or Bae who have extensive experience in itUnless you're saying Gigi can do that too
>>90802212>fauna>not a troublemakeryou never watched her. The amount of times she tiptoes the line is incredible but you fuckers do nothing but ducktape the mommy or innocent bullshit to her and refuse to listen to anything else.
>>90803336cant talk much without getting absolutely decimated by Jesus Christ and all of his saints, just wait for when she does something
>>90802212Why her what? Is this what holofags have been reduced to? Group bullying and smearing just because someone wants to leave?
>>90803423Just look at this thread. The brainrot is real
>>90802724Playing instruments =/= idol
>>90804101is mayonnaise an instrument?
>>90802724shiori plays the piano
>>90804253Not to the extent where it's usable for commercial purposes
Shouldn’t have crossed the Time Lord
>>90803239Shiori's existence is proof enough that Fauna didn't get forced out over insufficient idol work, stream times or viewership numbers. Given the kinda and very weird hypocritical PR that's been suddenly coming out, I wonder if it really is some clique thing.
>>90802212Phasengro is having fun I see
>>90804682>forced outShe left.
>>90804682What clique?
>>90802212She wanted to get as much people on her indie channel, there's no other explanation. She wanted to be the new doki, but she forgot that she needs an actual complain
>>90804682She doesn't want to travel to Japan and uproot herself for a month. It's very simple.
>>90806441I can see more of EN leaving if they are forcing a lot more centralization and time in japan
>>90802212Fauna does not deserve all this hatet. pemaloe
>>90802212She was a flower, as in she gets inseminated by numerous males? AHAHAHAH;
>>90805648She does have an actual complaint. Management is ass. Hololive rolling out damage control doesn't change that
>>90802212>one original song (made 2+ years ago)>one cover (made 2+ years ago)>refused to travel>refused to do any 3D that required recording outright, such as lives >in nearly zero voicepacksShe was about as uninvested as you can get without dropping streams, in which she was only middle of the pack in terms of hours put in. Fauna was cute, sure, but she didn't do anything.
>>90803417Do you really think Gigi's dancing is what got her hired? dyrb
>>90807547I can't believe the cover is +2 years old, feels like it came out somewhat recently. Maybe my perception of time is slipping...
>>90807126All the girls are saying they are happy and it's not management's fault, so now Fauna will take all the hate. That's what cover wanted.
>>90808529You mean management forced them to run damage control.
>>90802724>Shiori(noclue)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHRSOksETrU
>she wasn't one of the [...] uninvested like Sanadoubt
>>90810139That's what I mean. Cover is forcing all the girls to do damage control on their behalf and fans are already pilling on Fauna because everyone else says management is great actually.
>>90810337no, you mentally ill retard, YOU are forcing the girls to damage control. you monkeys keep asking them how much they hate their lives and when they're quitting. you even made IRyS address the fact that she ate a fucking steak on stream
>>90810473Ah, a drone.
>>90804199It is when you gargle shareholder ojii-san mayo.
>>90810473>made irys address eating a steak on streamI love you schizos
>>90804682If there’s clique war shit it seems like it’s everyone in hololive versus Ceres Fauna
>>90810555"They all keep directly addressing my very loudly stated concerns that they're quitting, they're forced to do things they don't want, and that they're unhappy. This is because their management that doesn't even speak English and didn't know Nerissa involved her family for an entire year are giving them scripts to read, and every single one of them are perfectly happy lying to me"- an intelligent free thinker
>>90810782not really, gura for example retweeted fauna art
>>90810855A retweet means nothing. Its like saying "eating a steak' is a jab. Until Gura actually says something, she's on no side. Same for Mumei
>>90810828>LEAVE THE MILLION DOLLAR CORPO ALONEYou're so joined at the hip with Hololive that you cannot comprehend their tactics, or close your eyes to it.This is classic black company stuff. Use the loyalists against the ones rebelling.
>>90811140it does mean something from somebody who shows almost 0 activity
>>90802625Yes, but not babski AKA the kronii schizo.
Who am I meant to watch now. Gura, moom and Ina are basically out the door now, Kronii and Mori are too miserable, and everyone else is too zoomer for me
>>90811193i don't give a fuck about the corpo, but you faggots never attack the corpo, do you? it's always idols who didn't do anything wrong. unfortunately for you, i'm from a country where we can afford food, so my brain is developed enough to see through your bullshit.
>>90812459IRyS is good. She's pretty funny and always seems like she is having a good time. Also, check out Gigi. I know she is zoomer but she has a certain wisdom beyond her years and Fauna loves her.
>>90810782I think Advent and Justice are wholly removed from this mess alltogether, and the clique shit is coming internally in Promise.
>>90812480when are you retards going to understand that its just a bunch of nijinigs smelling blood trying to take their revenge
>>90812480I AM LITERALLY ATTACKING THE CORPO
>>90802212
>>90813558This is no joking matter. 7/18 never forget.
>>90814100Holy shit
>>90802212>uninvestedNo it's this.
>other girls: management sucks>Fauna: agreed, management sucks!>other girls: no not like that, bad Fauna! why would you say that? company good!!
>>90802212Sapcucks deserve it desuNumbertrannies should all be executed
>>90802936they needed streamers to replace all the streamers they are about to lose. They aren't yet ready to transition EN away from streaming, its in full swing in japan though.
vtuber fans are so mentally ill that they cant fathom anyone would want to quit their job over any reason, not that aome of them would understand not ever having a job in their useless lives
>>90812944>GigiEw, no thanks
>>90802724GG will probably move to Japan sooner than later. She really wants to be an idol and was real hype about it around the time of the NYC concert.
the age of corpo is ending just like the age of the pimp. chuubas want independence.
>>90806666There are only a handful of active EN members who aren't already in Japan. At this point the only ones who were around long enough (Myth/Council) that they might not have known this was a requirement when signing on are Kiara and Kronii.
>>90802212I feel like Fauna either has a very low tolerance for corpo bullshit or is so meek and passive she just never complained and let stuff pile up. Or both.Others like Kiara or Kronii will bitch and moan and either deal with it or come to some sort of agreement.Cover is slow to deal with complaints. I think it's entirely possible you'll make a complaint about something, and the company will actually listen and try to improve it, but it will take them 6 months.
>>90802212why don't you ask her? She's the one that's leaving in disagreement while many are choosing to stay
>>90804682Shiori is a vtubing veteran from Sora's era. She has seen a lot of shit. She knows how to deal with management bullshit and has endured way worse than Cover's mostly well meaning but sometimes incompetent and suffocating oversight.
>>90807314She can't just blame the other party with no receipts and expect me to Listen and Believe. Who the fuck are you clowns?
>>90827144Receipts? How about confessions?
>>90827590How is this relevant?
>>90807547>>in nearly zero voicepacksthat's what really gets me, she has such a nice voice and she's great at roleplaying. wish she did more with it.
>>90827688>show me proof how management is ass>how is this proof of management being ass relevant?
>>90827758You have absolutely no idea what the >logistical issuesareyou buffoon. holy fuck you clowns aren't sending your best.
>>90827812>You have absolutely no idea what theeveryone knows Cover fucked up her work visa, you idiot
The end to all this will prove one thing. Those loyal to their oshis, and those loyal to the company.
>>90827983Cover has a story is being absolutely retarded on logistics and management>give a coco anti mod role, nukes everyone immediately>remove luna instead of rushia on an advertisement>ina's visaAnd so on, mostly just laughable, but we've reached the point where the worst of the japanese corpos' stereotypes is now affecting multiple talents.Corpos gotta step up and adapt, Anycolor failed to do it and now it's just surviving on JP and dead everywhere else. It's Cover's turn to see how they deal with this issue.
>>90802212because you aren't here friend
Because cover is a japanese corporation so its management is complete shit and they have utterly zero ability to remove bad eggs from their system
Fauna did nothing wrong
I'm honestly in the same boat. I'm tired of polarized takes and everyone who doesn't agree with X is either this or that. I wanna know why so we can lay it to rest for good.
>>90828754i must be loyle to my capo
>>90802936>There is no idol push, it's the same as beforemeanwhile Fauna:>"I joined an Idol Agency"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QFixnJw_uQ&ab_channel=CeresFaunaCh.hololive-EN
>>90802418based yagoo
