>Gura-"Hey, could I have this fun stream idea?">Management-"NO, it'll be a brand risk">Gura-"Could I at leas-">Management-"NO, it'll be a brand risk">Gura-"...Okay well maybe I could just..">Management-"NO, THAT'S A BRAND RISK">Gura-"How about I create a stream where I fart in my mic?!">Management-"BRAND RISK"Now, I understand Gura's frustration.
>>91142692It's strange how none of the hard working girls have this problem.
So Suisei, the golden goose of JP, says that the talents could do whatever they want...Gura, the golden goose of EN, accuses management of gatekeeping her from doing fun things...
>>91142692>brand riskHi homobeggar sister. Maybe it is time to visit your homo threads and give you a talking to if you are going to keep using this meme?
>>91142692Honestly if only there's a way to stream without affecting the Holo brand
>>91142748>Gura, the golden goose of ENThat would be FWMC. Gura is an old, stinky fish now that is in the trash.
>>91142784>Honestly if only there's a way to stream without affecting the Holo brandIt's called not doing copyrighted react content, and that is her entire problem.
>>91142692If you have to come up with a ridiculous scenario to blame management and give her no blame, then it's probably just cope.
So many corposlurpers in this thread
>>91142871As already stated >>91142807 she really did want to do react content and needed to be told why this wouldn't fly in hololive. That was her entire plan for creative content, the same boring shit all Twitch e-thots and grifters like Asmongold do.
>>91142744>Mumei>Ina>Ame (this is literally the reason she left)We watch streams here, shillcuck.
>>91142923It's the middle of the workday right now in China. The wumao are out in force.
>>91142941EN was a mistake
>>91143397Ok that gave me a chuckleYou should go into comedy anon, you'd go far
>>91142692dont care, stream liars bar.stop trying to stand out so much and just do your work.
>>91142744Fpbp lmao
>>91142692It's a bit of a jump from there to not doing any streams at all.
>>91143397>hard working>Mumei>Ame>watch streamswhat streams
>>91142744Which ones?
>>91142788Fuwamoco is cringe.
I already knew Holoshills would turn on her once she shit-talks Cover. I was fucking right lmao.
>>91145742what do you expect? They think they're so different than nijisissies but they are just the other side of the same coin. It's pathetic
>>91142692>talks about HOA>is confirmed to suffered a flood or 2>phasebrowns: how do i turn this into Holo = bad?never change
>>91142744Other girls can get away with more stuff because they are not the face of Holo EN like Gura, the lower your numbers the more freedom you have.
What was the “fun stream idea”? Rather, were, as there were supposed multiples.
>>91143397>MumeiCollege>InaStreams, has other obligations on top of it.>Ame (this is literally the reason she left)Oh no internet hort can't stream more than once per month in this studio space I bought and somehow forgot to check if I could get a stable internet connection! Oh the internet line isn't working? Tummy hort ate bread which is totally not my own stupid fuckin fault.Yea I totally believe Ame, totally not a stupid lazy bitch
>>91145916>College can only be attended by 18 year old retardsPlease grow a brainstem.
>SEA hours>EN seethe>doxxshit
>>91145994>you cannot possibly attend college again
>>91142788gura had wider appealwhere as fuwamoco only appeal to toddlers
>>91143397I still don't see ame doing anything
>>91142744Kiara? Or we going to ignore all her previous rants?
>>91145916>29hahaha, no shes not.
kys doxxniggers
>>91143397
>>91142788FWMC is fucking teletubbies-tier. Actual brainrot.
>>91142692Then leave?
>>91142692you have to go back
>>91142692She is the brand so I understand management. It's almost better if she does nothing rather than ruin her reputation.
>>91146347It's easy to forget about Kiara, in general
>>91142692the "fun stream idea" was react streams btw.
>>91142941LMFAO
>>91148252No it isn't. She's embedded in EN's culture whether you like it or not.
>meanwhile shiori does a bunch of weird shit and has no problem mentioning the weird shit she wanted to do and was told no Really makes you think.
>>91143397:)
>>91145950>>91146150>it's normal to keep flunking and dropping out of college well into your 20's going 30'sHey, with all that studying she'll revolutionize the whale cum academia.
>>91145639Go back your discord you teenage coomer.
>>91148922Shiori flirts back at her manager, so it makes the HR meetings worth it.
>>91142744They do - most if not all of Holo girls do. They just dealt with it because for them, the pros of being in Holo far outweigh the frustration.That's why when a girl doesn't feel she has much to gain from being in Holo anymore and has enough money to live comfortably, she'd just leave (i.e: Fauna) - for better or worse
She's basically Mickey Mouse at this point. Disney has bigger restrictions on the use of Mickey compared to other characters because he's the brand symbol.
>>91149159It's not normal to watch Teletubbieswhen you're older than 4. Teletubbies with tits don't change that.
>>91142744>>91148922It’s obvious that Gura has unique EN rules due to her image. Bringing up regular Holo’s or JP doesn’t really mean anything.
>>91142692I thought it was Gura who didn't want to stream but what if its Cover who are actively preventing her from streaming in order to "protect her brand"?
>>91142788FuwaMoco are what normies think what vtubers are
>>91142692She could do satzu streams and everyone would be happy, guess "throat hort".
wait, so the reason so won't stream is because she's not allowed to do react content? management isn't allowing her to do that because of copyright concerns?
>>91149336they also killed all her shorts ideas
I swear.... Gura must has struck an insane deal with Hololive just to make sure Gura doesn't leave. Gura basically doesn't have to do shit unless it's anniversary recording. That's how much she's worth to the company.Also, people loved Gura when she did crazy stuff like putting up her middle finger. THAT is what made the Gura brand. Being too safe is boring as fuck. In fact, anyone who knew Gura's name before Hololive loved her for her unhinged memes.
>>91148681that would have been so based, I wonder what Gura's TikTok feed would have looked like
>>91142692t. Gura's mind
>>91142788Extremely merchandisable shark girl the same color as company branding pls understan
>>91142744No man you don't get it they just really, really, really have it out for Gura. The only way to hit back is by giving as many red supas as possible to her. That'll teach evil management a lesson!
>>91142692>I want to stream but I can't! >Why you ask, ehm... you see its because... the management! Yes, the management won't let me!If she genuinely wanted to stream she would just tell the management to let her stream what she wants or she will quit.If she is so important to Cover they would have to at least compromise on her demands.
>>91142692Maybe Gura should just stream a game or something? Oh wait I forgot she prefers to play most games off stream, but oh nyo management is the reason she has nothing to stream.
>>91142748>Suisei Idea: I got a new song in me, I need to colab with X artist though>Gura idea: I want to play Dark Souls and take a shot every time I dieGee no wonder Suisei can do whatever she wants and gura gets cock blocked
>>91149927Anon, imagine if Mickey Mouse was a sentient person and not just a drawing. Disney would do ANYTHING to keep old Mickey in, no matter what. AND would also try to cock block him on any unsafe thing he might do, even if the fans love it when he would slip out of control for a bitGura is Mickey, she is now the face of hololive, her character NEEDS to be what they need to be, but her the person is not that so they cock block the fuck of her and whenever she slips a bit we all cheer
>>91142692Anon you are making shit up about a girl that has a video of herself fully naked as a loli on youtubeYou might want to work on your fairy tales a little
>>91142941>creative contentWhy are so many content creators genuinely creatively bankrupt?
>>91152741Do EoPs rearry?
If Gura wants to do react content so badly, why not just do watchalongs of YouTube videos? Shiori did that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZV75TKeg5o
>>91142692>Gura>actually wanting to workLMAO
>>91152626Ceci is doing exactly that "Gura idea" but with Sekiro
>>91142744hardwork is code word for management's "cock puppet"
>>91154056she also did the "fart in the mic" stream
>>91145584Mori.Kiara.>>91146347'MEMEMEME chicken voice' doesn't count.
>>91142788Fuwamoco like bijoe is Skibidi tier.
>>91149336Imagine how much of a drunken mess she’d have to be for it to get to that point
>>91142692rrat
>>91148922yeah but nobody actually watches her, so noone cares
>>91142744Anon are you really asking why the talents who constantly fight with management are less likely to work hard for Hololive? They aren't going to feel like doing their best if they have major complaints especially when management is causing their issues.
>>91142744Fpbp
>>91142748EN management is just retarded. She was unironically happier under omega lol
>She's the face of EN, she has way more restrictions!>Meanwhile the face of JP is Marine.
>>91142744They hated him because he told the truth
>>91142764watch streams you poorfag moron. Gura used those exact words yesterday
>>91148783Absolutely not. Kiara needs HoloEN much, MUCH more than HoloEN needs Kiara.
>>91142748The golden goose of Jp is marine. And marine does a lot of questionable things.
>>91142744>it's strange how the girls that suck up to management and their fax machines have an easier time dealing with themyeah man it's strange how fire is hot and liquids are liquid haha wooow so crazyretard
>>91159026>Meanwhile the face of JP is Marine.You mean the person who faces a bunch of restrictions all the time? Marine is a good example of how far one can go in that position.
>>91142744because they do what they're told and don't have any creative vision they personally want to share
the real brand risk is holopro
>>91162039this, if you treat it as a regular job you will thrive in hololivestream the games you have permission for, do covers of the songs you have permission for, do zatsus, never deviate outside of thisnever have independent thoughts about what games you want to play, songs you want to cover or the making of orisongs
>>91142744It's not a coincidence that all of those "hard working" girls are also super boring and never do anything interesting.
>>91154216Mori and Kiara have complained numerous times about management and a bunch of other things. Its also hilarious that you use them as examples when they were the most hated EN members for so long.
>>91142692gura will never leave holohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rib7YFtc4Ww
>>91162503That just describes the whole RN branch though. There are no good EN vtubers.
forsen is playing with gura RIGHT NOW
>>91162604The hate made them more powerful.
This would hold a lot more weight if she actually had a history of creative streams. The actual creatives are still actively streaming.
>>91164681Gura probably proposed sone idea like an unbirthing stream and management said wtf no. Maybe I’d be more bothered if Gura actually mentioned what all these “ideas” were if they were reasonable.
>>91164681That's why it's believable. Management itself deifies Gura and her market value too much, so they harass her for every crude joke or weird thing she says.
>>91164193You mean JP
>>91142744THREAD OVER
>>91161049Yeah, about wanting to do reactslop you nigger
>>91142744Kek
>>91142744aqutan...
>>91173072Burned out
>>91145824Look up the archives of a certain drunken gremlin. All of those and more.
>>91142788This really baited out the casualfags
>>91162039Seems like cope since the Holos that thrive the nlnost like Pekora, Suisei, Marine and Miko all have very strong views on what their content should be and have all built up distinctive brands from scratch
>>91162039>>91162360You are two of the dumbest pieces of shit I have seen on this board. Never post again.
>>91143397good one
>>91162604I mean /vt/ seem to love girls with no motivation because it's "cute" Kiara and Mori have shit to complain about because they constantly organize something, usually like 3 things you need to give management chance to fuck up. On this note I have no idea what Fauna could possibly have a problem with going the way of least resistance her whole career perhaps she demanded Cover stop taking a cut from her supas or something which btw they should at this point.
>>91158580>constantly fight with management that sounds like a headcanon
>>91181396/vt/ love the no motivation Holos because they're the ones who are most like twitch streamers. The sooner you come to terms this board is flooded by secondaries who hate everything but bitch basic game streams and homo collabs the better
>>91143397Lmaoing at the bootlickers replying.
>>91145823https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcIYQeYzN1g
>>91154056CC isn't singing in Dodger Stadium
>HoloENs that have social autismInaGuraAmeFaunaMumei>HoloENs that are not completely hopelessthe rest>HoloENs that don't stream and blame management for itIna (occasionally on hiatus)Gura (permanently on hiatus)Ame (left)Fauna (left)Mumei (regularly on hiatus)>HoloENs that have issues with management but can resolve them and can stream regularlythe restI'm sensing a pattern here.
>>91197380goodbye cunts
>>91161102HoloEN management doesn't give a shit about Kiara, but she and Mori are the only ones trying to keep Myth together as a unit and HoloEN together as a group.
>>91142748Earnestly she just needs to change managers, find someone who’s willing to go along with her brand of BS
>>91149927>>91152741Makes a lot of sense and why she's semi-retired at this point.I wonder why she can't do things outside Holo to make her creatively happy. Like what are they going to do, fire her? They're super desperate to keep her and it seems like her fans will follow her wherever.
>>91198426She's a bit menhera
>>91198463she's got the chops, it's a shame she can't break out of her cage
I wish there was a way to get management to understand that the people who follow Gura do so not because she’s brand safe, but because she’s entertaining. Maybe once another talent manages to become “the face” she’ll be freer
>>91198562 (me)She has the biggest leverage against her employer to demand many things and negotiate. I hope she eventually learns and figures it out.
speaking of brand risk, did you know that nijisanji terminated a vtuber just for making a deez nuts joke without the knowledge that deez is a real nuts company.Did you know another time nijisanji thought it as a brand risk to release a cover of a song that had all the rights taken care off and the cover was going to portray niji in a positive light but Elira was so bitter about the success of the vtuber who put out the cover that she rugpulled her at the last time?Another time Elira was a so jelous of someone else she denied what that person thought was "a dream opportunity" for some benign reason?Yeah, its kinda crazy how nijisanji deals with this shit. Meanwhile Mori can make an NTR joke without a problem and only gets asked to change it, though she had no obligation to comply, and Marine sexualizes her character, who is supposed to be like 17 years old to no end.All in all, I think nijisanji really is a horrible company that really punishes too hard for "brand risks".
>>91198683Classic Niji deflection. It would be like Nijifags saying, "at least we're not as bad as Wactor!" Everytime someone says anything negative about them. There's room to discuss multiple vtuber companies having shitty aspects. Being a few shades less black than Niji isn't some huge win that makes a company a perfect paradise where nothing's going wrong.
>>91198896making an elephant out of a fly is typical nijisnake behavior and should be shutdown. Meanwhile you all are protecting a sociopathic piece of shit that has no problem going over corpses and denies that her actions had anything to do with attempted suicides of coworkers. Please reevaluate the hill you want to die on.
>>91199235NTA but several talents graduating because of management isn't a fly.
>>91152773that was before Cover was publicly traded
>>91142692Why doesn't she just do it? What are they going to do? Fire their mascot?
>>91197380now this is a level of schizoposting never achieved before in the entire history of this board
>>91200373Pay her less? Who knows what's in the contract.
Must be tough hearing voices in your head
>>91142744>Hard working>Girls
>>91142692GJ management-san, keep it going
>>91152741Imagine if Mickey Mouse was a cute little shark and he liked to stream video games but he couldn't anymore because he was being imprisoned by an evil wizard with magic powers
>>91142692BEHEAD MANAGEMENT FOR NOT LETTING HER FART INTO THE MIC
>>91142744Why you have to bring up Suisei like this? Gura shrill corpo. dick like ever--ohhh.
>>91142744FPBP
