Why was EN's reaction to Fauna's graduation so lukewarm compared to Ame? Everyone was so heartbroken then and now we mostly got generic "we wish her luck" responses
Fauna bad Ame good
Because everyone secretly hated Fauna.fpbp/thread/catalog/website
>Ame graduated>Rest of EN : fool me once, shame on me>Fauna graduated>Rest of EN : fool me twice, shame on you
>>91275318She existed respectfully and gracefully. Fauna on the other hand throws a bitchfit like the karen she is.
>>91275415>Management approves a graduating message for you>Doesn't inform others of the timing, making them believe it was a sudden decision >Gives approved messages to other talents that single you out and throws you under the bus>Now everyone hates you, and managements deflects all the blame from themSasuga, black company. Riku is blushing.
>>91275713Incredible. Every word of this is fanfiction.
>>91275318they had time to process itthats it. thats the real reason.now stop shitposting
At least wait until the actual graduation day before casting judgement? Retard.
>>91275713Meds
>>91275318Fauna threw management under the bus.
>>91275756If Fauna threw a fit, and what she said on the announcement was not what the company wanted, the stream would already be taken down, and she would need to issue an apology, you fucking retards. Hololive wanted this. And it seems it worked, judging by the average reaction.
>>91276023>Doesn't inform others of the timing, making them believe it was a sudden decision Wrong >Gives approved messages to other talents that single you out and throws you under the busWrong>Now everyone hates you, and managements deflects all the blame from themWrongThe only thing that was even close to correct was >Management approves a graduating message for youWhich doesn’t feed into any narrative without making things up to accompany it
Fauna is abandoning the fans and the other girls.Threw management under the bus by being a vague basic bitch.Pretended for months that she was happy and talked about future plans constantly knowing for months she was going to graduate at the first of the year.Fuck Fauna.
>>91276370>talked about future plans constantly knowing for months she was going to graduate at the first of the yearThis is a very odd move to make, yeah. Would be nice to have an explanation for it.
>>91275318My magic 8 ball is telling me that Fauna is graduating over something really dumb and the rest of EN is incredulous at her
>>912762771- IRyS confirmed while they knew she was gonna leave a while ago, the timing came out as a surprise2- The messages just coincidentally have a lot of similar bullet points, including Bae who got a bit emotional so she just kept repeating it like a broken record.3- I thought that was your point, retard. I'll take the concession.4- My point is, any blame that falls upon Fauna about her specific wording during the announcement, should also fall upon Hololive, since there's no way they didn't go through it, or advised it, or if neither, they would have deleted it afterwards.
>>91275318Council was renamed Promise. Fauna walked away from it. Now they are a Broken promise. If they want to be an idol group they have to rebrand again. I'd be annoyed too.
>>91275318Fauna chose to graduate instead of affiliate, and tried to hurt Cover's brand by saying she had problems with management. This had the potential to hurt the other Holo's bottom line because any damage to the brand effects how willing fans are to give them money and buy merch. Naturally you wouldn't feel warm feelings towards someone who tried to put your job at risk.
>>91275318Fauna is a VEGAN.Vegans are shit people.
>>91276527If Cover didn't want her to say it was "disagreements with management", the stream would already be taken down. For your argument to be true, they either have to be completely retard to keep that up, or they intended that have the fans attack Fauna for "her" wording, deflecting blame from the company. So either they're incompetent, or they're a black company, pock your poison.
>>91276527This. Doody/Ame has the option to return back if the Indie stuff doesn't work out and has a place to return to meanwhile Fauna on the other hand...was a total Karen. The difference is night and day.
>>91276652>why don't they just take the stream down>takes the stream down>OMG THEY'RE SILENCING HER, THIS IS PROOF OF THEIR EVILShut up.
>>91275318If anything I think Ame's graduation soured things because we all know Fauna will be back as some other bitch and pretend Hololive never happened. What's the point of the song and dance? What's the point of Gura sharing nostalgic memories? What's the point of Kiara bawling her eyes out? Fauna should just leave tomorrow and rip off the bandaid so she can redebut with the audience she gained from the blue dorito.
>>91276446>IRyS confirmed while they knew she was gonna leave a while ago, the timing came out as a surpriseOf course, but the “sudden decision” point falls flat given that. Unexpected announcement maybe, but only the timing of going public with it>The messages just coincidentally have a lot of similar bullet pointsGiven the nature of the announcement and the concerns of fans, this is expected. All of a sudden every vocal fan is going nuclear about management and how bad they are, and how the company’s direction is hurting the talents, and how worried they are that everyone is going to leave sometime soon. It’s only natural that the talent statements would address these concerns and fall into a similar outline. “Hi, it was her problem with management, not everyone’s. The company’s direction is different, but most of us don’t have an issue with it. I’m not planning on leaving anytime soon.” Similar, but only because they would be given the circumstances>I thought that was your point, retard. I'll take the concessionOgey I guess, I don’t understand this one>any blame that falls upon Fauna about her specific wording during the announcement, should also fall upon HololiveFine I guess. It’s just worth considering that if they approved anything, it was the general message of “disagreement with management.” How she phrased that was likely on her, considering how Aqua did the same thing but in a different way. We can’t know this, though, so it’s a moot point.
>>91276652Imagine the positive PR if management suddenly took her graduation announcement stream down. Do you even think?
>>91275415>bitchfitI don't think any reasonable human being could have predicted saying "I had disagreements with management" would cause such an autistic shitstorm from the socially inept retards that inhabit this fanbase.
>>91276759Of course, why would the company take it down, it would reflect badly on them. Instead let's let it up and have Fauna take all the blame, even though we approved the message. We also won't clarify it in public, of course. Hololive is a Black Company.
>>91276984This board has been full of mane-tomos ever since the announcement. There's no point in trying to reason with them.
>>91276984Yeah, the fan meltdown was honestly shocking to see. I think it caught everyone, talents included, by surprise.
Fauna threw everyone into a shitstorm of having to damage control for the company because people were going wild with conspiracies. Now admittedly this would have happened to some degree simply because of graduation spam - but she objectively added fuel to the fire and even made sure to shoot down alternative explanations (some of which are doubtful such as not wanting to be an idol).That being said it does feel like almost no one is actually sad about her leaving, especially contrasted with Ame. I hope she at least bothers with a proper goodbye stream, its bad enough already that they became too lazy to even do concerts which even fucking SANA still bothered with
sure smells like mentally ill brown in herego back to your discord
>>91275318We don't know. My guess is that Ame graduated because Management kept cancelling her 3d ideas while Fauna graduated because she dislikes going to Japan.So Ame looks like a victim while Fauna looks entitled, the other girls (Kiara, Nerissa, Mumei) don't like going to Japan either, but they endure it.
>>91277583Hololive threw everyone into that shitstorm by allowing her to say that on the approved announcement. The fact that they haven't clarified things themselves, instead let the talents do it, is 100% because they want this reaction, they want fans to think Fauna is the odd one out. This is classic Nippon work tactics, the only surprising thing is how quickly holofans turned out to be exactly like nijifans.
>>91277737shut the fuck up, indietard.
>>91277737Guarantee you most Hololive fans who aren’t secretly antis are thinking, “It sucks she’s graduating, but at least this isn’t the mass exodus we were afraid of, and she’s leaving on good enough terms. I hope she does well in whatever she does next!”
>>91277769Corpo slopper faggot
>>91278365minority, silence. Go back to your thread.
I guess Fauna attacking management was the last straw for the majority of the fanbase.
>>91278589In what terms
>>91275318Fauna is a lukewarm egirl compared to Ame who is a spicy Cuban.
>>91275318all things considered Fauna didn't have any real impact on holoEN and she will only be remembered for being the uuu squib girl.Amelia, on the other hand was a founding member and le creativitë girl
>>91278589She didn't attack management, she stated that she's graduating due to a disagreement with management. This is most likely related to re-negotiating her contract, permissions, product endorsements, or required work/schedule. Without more specific information everything is just speculation. At least with some past controversies it was clear that certain ex-talents were poorly performing and had anger management issues that complicated matters.
I refuse to even engage with this line of reasoningit's antis stirring shit up, no one reasonable is having a full on melty over "disagreements with management"I'm not playing your game, fuck youAme had very little backlash because she was already soft graduated for years
>>91275385I think they say that in Texas. Maybe it's in Tennessee too, but definitely Texas.
i look forward to gura graduating for health reasons vt will lose their minds and nah i'm not saying it will happen even if gura died they most lilkely not tell us ...
>>91275318I think it is because it was too much with Fauna leaving, I mean it comes after three major graduation announcement which put Hololive under pressure and with Fauna for the same year and just a very short time after Ame and Chloe? Yeah kinda bad timing, this is not Fauna's fault too, she have the right to graduate whenever she wants, but the timing had indirect repercussion on everybody, so they tried to calm things down with statement like " we are happy here " which some of you interpret like anti Fauna statement but whatever
>>91279393Cover didn't even calm people down with Gura being away for dealing with a cancer scare, letting grey gays flood her videos with negative comments.
>>91275318Because Ame had like 10 days until leaving so everyone tried to spend as much time as possible with her and got very emotional. Fauna still has 3 weeks so girls are relatively calm, but there's a big chance we'll see a lot of tears around the New Year
>>91275318No one likes vegans. Remember how much of a bitch she was towards Bae while talking about them eating together? And that's ON STREAM. Imagine how insufferable she is offline.
>>91275371>Not even the first post Nigger
>>91277583>Fauna threw everyone into a shitstorm of having to damage control for the company because people were going wild with conspiracies. Now admittedly this would have happened to some degree simply because of graduation spam - but she objectively added fuel to the fireThey use the Cover NDA to stop talents from giving a full explanation so wouldn't management still be at fault? They wouldn't compromise with Fauna but they could at least give fans an honest explanation. They are making the choice to keep the disagreement extremely vague while other Hololive talents say that we are never getting a clear answer.
>>91275318Ame didn't outright graduate: she's basically gone on furlough until she decides if she wants to outright leave. That means everyone has to be much more careful on how they deal with her, because she might not actually be gone forever; at the very least, management wouldn't want to risk future merch sales, so everyone would be pushed to play nice.Fauna isn't doing the same, so you'd have the opposite: some people will see it as a chance to grab some of her fans by playing nice, some will blatantly resent having to address the graduation at all, and some just won't care. Since there's no financial incentive for management to do more than enforce a vague silence, there's a higher chance that things might get messy.
>>91276823>the timing came out as a surpriseThey should have released the holofes stages before the graduation announcement. Let everyone guess why 2 people were missing.
Ame didnt criticize the companyFauna did and the people who benefit from the change of direction came out to say "Fuck you, got mine" like the selfish cunts they are
>>91275318Ame didn't oust Cover as a black company.Fauna did and Cover isn't letting the others say ANYTHING apart from what management approves beforehand in case it one day gets played back to them in court.
>>91275318Because Ame spearheaded vtubing in the western market. She was the first to make actual big projects and not just covers.
>>91276984It wasn't Fauna's announcement in a vacuum that caused the outrage, it was the fact that it came 2 days after Chloe announced she was graduating for the same reason
>>91281557based mane-tomo
>>91282631Chloe was a combination overwork and health issues. Kanata and Fubuki immediately debunked the overwork issue though.
Man, I hope years from now some ex-employee leaks what was actually going on Cover.
>>91275371/websiteGod I wish
>>91275318I dont get it? Is there a difference?
>>91280145>They use the Cover NDA to stop talents from giving a full explanationHow would you know?
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