>>91356513
>picrel
Chuuba is a shit term coined by EOPsharts. This are idols, and they are the frontiers of what Vtubing is all about.

>>91356513
They didn't speak-a my language
Nor did they smile and give me a Vegemite sandwich

>>91356513
Company went to shit and I didn't feel comfortable supporting him or the company anymore

I found better ones.

>>91356513
The Bau Bau gimmick is getting old I wish they were something cooler

>>91356628
>This are idols

>>91356628

>The frontier of this new type of entertainment is being exactly like this other thing that has been around for like 50 yrs

>>91356628
>This are idols,
Yeesh ESL faggots should really learn to speak ENGLISH before trying to shit on someone else

>>91357923
I can speak English and everyone knows what OP was doing, anon. Seethe, mald, and shit yourself in their defense.

>>91356513
Fuwamoco promising nothing will change and moving to Japan. Surprise! Everything changed.

>4 streams a month
>half of them shill streams, the others are hour-long flavor of the month "Streamer games"
>Japanese so I can't even catch her live

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>>91356513
Mori didn't stream enough games I liked and I kinda forgot about her for a while. I came back for monkey, but she dropped that like everyone else.
Vox turned out to be a massive asshole, but I also forgot about him for a while before the black stream.
I didn't get around to watching the rest of Elira's Xenoblade streams and then black stream happened like a year later.
Selen got fucking annihilated and Doki didn't stream enough games I liked.
Nina left and streams on Twitch, making it harder to keep track of.
Mumei didn't stream.
This will likely be one of the least schizo answers in this board's whole history.

>>91360156
Appreciate the honesty and unschizoid-ness

>>91358240
>their
go back

>>91360486
This is a vtuber board, there are real stinky femanons here
One even posted tits, but then started attentionwhoring
You never know

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>>91356513
Bau Bau!!

>>91356513
Why

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>>91356513
They left Hololive

>>91356513
Because my penis started bleeding after a while.

>>91356513
Pippa fell off harder than anyone else in the industry, she is completely cucked and safe edgy I never saw Simeone pivot this hard from her persona. People claimed back in the day she would pull a nyanners sooner or later but this is so much worse than that, at least pulling a nyanners would require some courage.

>>91361466
Honestly bro I think she was more false in her earlier years, like she was trying extremely hard and all her opinions perfectly matched with the opinions of this side of the internet. She seems at least more honest now and the people around her seem to appreciate her more

>>91356513
>fuwamoco
they turned into teletubbies and I'm too old for that
>dokibird
too many male collabs
>mumei
doesn't stream
>rosemi
selen shock made me unsub from every niji
>gumpai
she raped her own career

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>>91360156
Oh, I also used to watch both niji&holo too before the infamous black screen. I primarily just watch holo and some indies now... honestly don't see a lot of people in the same boat as me.

>>91361466
You definitely know Pippa softened her opinions to avoid fucking Sakana over.

>>91362260
I'm in that boat as well. I think there are a fair amount but even mentioning it on this board is like a magnet for getting called a faggot

>>91362260
faggot

>>91362516
>>91362549
like pottery

>>91362516
>>91362549
>>91362260

Like fucking clockwork

>>91360156
I forgot Rosemi.
Black stream happened, but I also just stopped watching her after she was done with DMC games.
>>91362260
There was a time when I cheered for the nijiholoEN collabs finally happening. I didn't actually want anything out of it, but it sounded like a neat thing.
The stability of NijiEN was convincing enough back in the day if you weren't looking for rrats or watching enough people to see the rotten eggs.

>I AM NOT YOUR FRIEND YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS
she's gonna cry when she goes indie and realizes nobody follow her after she told the only pepple who will be loyal to fuck off

>>91362821
It was just Pomu & Selen that made me care. I left when they left, but ironically enough haven't kept up with them that much since they've become indies. I still chime in from time to time, though

>>91362821
Because of the terrible things that happened people will forget how amazing niji was in 2022. A little golden age and maybe the best en vtubing I've ever seen

It wasn't worth staying up past 12 pm EST on worknights. See Kronii, Mumei, IRyS. Unless they stream from 8-12 pm EST, they're VOD or clip-only.

>>91363349
On the surface, that is.
There have been problems long before the black stream. Maybe things could have still been salvaged with real management to tardwrangle everyone, but that didn't happen.
And that's the kicker: many people were fooled and the revelations poison those memories.

>>91363604
I'm just talking bout the content but yeah I remember even at the time hearing things and getting the feeling that all was not exactly well. At that point they could have pulled it together but as we all know that was never to be because of the nature of the place. That's what made it kinda hurt tho was that they threw away the good thing they had and the good people like pomu and selen

>>91356513
They collab with men. I can feel they've changed after that

>>91356513
>Calli
Literally her feminization, "old school" edgy/fuck everything attitude Calli was my oshi
>Ina
Got bored
>Kronii
It is true that there's something about her personality that just pushes people away, also her "community" feels like it's just her paypigs baiting clip material 24/7, she hates them yet it seems like the rest of viewers just don't exist to her
>Rissa
White woman gaming, I still lurk her zatsus tho

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>>91356513
Her humor and jokes just started getting obnoxious to me and her content felt stale too. What allured me to Shiori was the traumatic sad girl vibe she had, but I think her joining Hololive actually fixed her. She's a good person,, but I just don't enjoy watching her anymore.

>>91356513
Met them irl years ago when they were struggling to be popular and a comment they made pissed me off so much I remember it when I hear their voices

>>91366644
meds

>>91356513
>Moom
Doesn't stream and barely cares anymore
>FWMC
Became soulless and huge management shill bots when they moved to JP along with the non-stop nip viewer cock gobbling getting really fucking annoying. Also streams way less now too

>>91356513
The ones you just posted.
>Reason
I am not Japanese, they straight up don't want my gaijin ass to watch them so I just stopped

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>>91356513
Some faggots harassed her to the point where she felt forced to graduate. I tried keeping up with her on her new channel afterward but gave up after a while, especially once the subbed clips started to dry up. It's just too much of a pain trying to keep up with JP vtubers. Plus I really miss her old model.
I also used to watch Ars pretty regularly but fell off after discovering Hololive. Plus, I think it was around the time there was some weird shit going on involving people using clips to harass the talents so Niji started restricting clippers a lot which just meant I saw her less and less in my recommended.

>>91356513
I've almost completely stopped watching anyone who streams after 11PM in my timezone. Trying to keep up with them makes me a cranky menhera the next day

>>91367423
Fwmcs viewer interactions really turn me off the kinda of "we will never leave you ruffians" stuff. I really like how they interact with other talents it's just the chat interactions feel weird and false to me. I get that there is a market for it

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>>91356513
>favoritism towards extremely obnoxious paypigs became more and more and more blatant to a point where she would legit just be having 1 on 1 conversations with few of them
>every stream was said annoying faggots basically driving the entire thing with unbearable TTS spam coordinated in their circlejerk discord and her just reacting with "haha so true" and "heeeyyyy stoppuuuuhhhh"
>issues with her corpo turned into an excuse for a permanent decline in effort and care and overall content quality, as she made insufferable vagueposting her new M.O. to the point she now has one of those sekrit klub twitter accounts basically just to vaguepost and emotionally terrorize her gachikoi for kicks
>became more involved with one of the most unlikable and fake women in vtubing and it started rubbing off, or just started becoming more obvious with it as she stopped caring in general
>started multitrack grifting with an actual streetwalker-tier whore PL model and content, like she's given up and accepted the Bad End

>>91357156
agree bau bau is fucking annoying as shit.

>>91356513
Ame: Actually, she's kind of a jerk
Calli: Still watching her occasionally
IRyS: She's fine, I just drifted away
Kronii: Abandoned kino Minecraft villain arc
Moona: Abandoned Minecraft in general
Kaela: Too artistic for me
Pomu, Selen: ;_;
A few others in NijiEN: Because NijiEN
Neena Makurano: Actually, she's also a jerk
Sara Nagare: She's fine, I just drifted away
Jerry: Too much whining; her chat is awful
Skye Shinryu: Strong start but fell off hard
Orion Juno: Went indie and disappeared
Mozumi Pichi: THAT'S NOT MY FETISH
Xin Asuwa: Still watching her occasionally
Camizole: Irregular Twitch VODs on YouTube
Furi, Scarlett: Because VReverie
Doki: Her new model is awful

Still watching with some regularity:
Mint, CCGG and Raora, Ayla Yew, Kokone, Amora, Daiya, Tomoe

permabaned me :)

>>91357156
>>91371324
this
You can't just bau bau your way out.

>>91356513
>certain chuubas
>can't resist using holo pic
What's with all this falseflagging

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>>91356840
>watching only belgian chuubas
I approve

>>91356513
>Too much Minecraft
>Too many obscure indie games
>Stopped streaming regularly
>Streaming schedule no longer lined up with my active hours

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>>91357156
Like what, demonic dogs?

Apex.

>>91371841
>Aster's cocksleeve

>>91369430
That sucks I heard she was on of the good ones

>>91356628
Based
Fpbp
OP BTFO

>>91371489
> :)
you should be perma'd from life, too

>>91371489
If I pull that mask off, will you die?

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>>91374689
It would be extremely painful.

>>91356513
i can't stand the bau baus

>>91356513
i hate apex and valo

Stopped watching Kiara for a while because she was in a really bad headspace and mood after releasing her album. Came back because she was really forward and honest and aaid that she wasn't providing good content and saw multiple long-time fans talking about needing a break from the negativity. She's doing a lot better and I think some extra vacation and the month break for the house move really hlped her mental state and general mood.
Tapered back really had on FWMC. Used to watch every stream but not it feels like they go far too hard for the JP audience. Also just got board of their regular gaming streams if they aren't something I'm interested in, their gimmick can only go so far.
Reine I just stopped not because of her, but more because there were other EN I was more interested in. I still tune in for big stuff and watch most of her horror game psudo-VN streams.

>>91362260
>>91362516
Hey faggots. You should go on a date

>>91375468
But there were at least three people talking there

>>91361466
I haven't watched her in a long time, why is her voice that way now

>>91375835
She just talks without putting on a cute voice now. The whole facade with her is basically eroded. It kinda makes sense cuz she's shared enough about her life to make any pretense of being a cute anime girl almost laughable

>>91376023
She can still be a Made in Abyss anime girl

>>91356513
Fuwawa's laugh

>>91356513
Most replies referring to FWMC have clearly never actually watched them in any relevant capacity or else they would drop them instantly.
They've been anime teletubbies since debut. If that doesn't appeal to you, it's obvious enough that you'd never stick around past initial impression.

>>91356513
time to be completely honest
if peo was a part of hololive i would watch her much more
peo streams so consistently and her streams are so consistently nice that they're just always reliably nice to tune into

but you can only watch so many vtubers, peo's streams are so long and her timeslot is inconvenient, she doesnt get clipped as often or talked about as much or appear in the streams of other people or have interesting fanmade things about her come out as often (all things that would improve if she were in hololive), and peo's consistency also means that if i skipped a peo stream i can tune into another and she'd be the same peo, whereas with the holos if you miss something then you might be missing out on a whole arc or a memorable moment you'll regret misssing

>>91376337
That actually was my initial impression and was enough for me to decide they weren't for me. But then I saw their shenanigans in hologta and led me to appreciate them a bit at least in their interactions with other members. They are quite good at making comedic situations happen.

>>91356513
So we are showing our bodycount?
>PekoMiko
They literally started to hate eachother
>Ame
I realized that holoEN was lacking something back then when they got used to streaming to a big audience and they won’t be english speaking HoloJP. They weren’t as funny, cute, charismatic and didn’t really wanted to play character in a slighest. Also their interactions felt forced. I watched mostly Ame and I dropped her specifically because I kinda got bored and ot wasn’t worth for me to fuck up my sleep schedule (t. euro). I doubled down on my JP reps
>Suisei
I still love her music, but I kinda got bored, because her streaming content weren’t as entertaining. Also I’m retarded and I couldn’t learn japanese
>Beatani Chisato
She graduated
>IRyS
I got filtered because she started speaking japanese half of time and played mostly FOTM slop. Also it may be my schizo delusion, but I realized that she doesn’t really hang out with anyone until she has something to gain, but that is something I realized after I dropped her
>Axel
He burned out and became boring. Probably because he was bullied by management to drop vulgar act
>my 2view from Twitch
I watched her solely because she played games I used to. Also she spoke my language. I lost interest in those games and with that, in her
>Fuwamoco
I feel that if you watch enough streams, then you can predict what they will do, because they are trying too hard on acting retarded. They are too schematic. Their GTA arc fixed this a bit, but I already switched oshi by then

>>91361466
This. I don't think there's any vtuber who did what Pippa did this year, she made a 180 on her persona without making it feel like she was doing it. I kept telling myself it was fine until it wasn't anymore and it all clicked, I don't even know what the fuck happened she went away not with a firework or a mega yab but like a fart in the wind. I don't even post in /pcg/ anymore but the last time I did most of the old Pippa posters were gone.

>Ina
Honestly got bored of her. Will still watch clips of her.
>friend
Streaming times, still want to watch her sololive
>not ame
I hate twitch
I still watch Kiara/Shiorin and now gigi. Peo too but she also doesn't have the best streaming times

>>91356513
>Gura
it was kinda annoying for me how retarded she was during the last parts of her Outlast stream during month 1

>>91377023
Who the fuck do you regularly watch?

>>91377934
I won’t tell you to not gain some schizo in my general after they felt that I insulted their oshi.
You mean that I jump around? Nigga, I’m into vtubers for 6 years already. Of course I won’t watch same person for more than a year

>>91361466
best post in this thread created by an obvious phasecuck.

>>91378210
>Of course I won’t watch same person for more than a year
whoreanon...

>>91356513
I'm drifting away from holo ever since this company that had less then one graduation per year suddenly had 4 in less than 6 months. Whatever new shit was implemented or is enforced now is not worth it. Refuse to watch and support anyone until they come clear with what's going on. Unsubbed from every channel besides 3 or 4 that I still cannot let go.

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>>91356513
Seeing her act like a petty, fake bitch too many times. Still save her porn though.

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>>91356513
followed her since debut went thru the darkest days with the homo collabs, all the jabs, all the breaks but the thing that actually annoyed me was how she only talked to a certain group of her fans the spreadsheet is real

>>91382337
Aren't there other girls that have been pretty much confirmed to keep one as well?

>>91382578
it doesn't seem as obvious with other girls

>>91382639
Pretty sure Lamy was the most obvious one for years.

>>91356628
vtubing is all about retro games and cute noises

>>91382337
This is exactly the main reason that keeps me from getting into her lol. I want to but it's like what's the point

>>91356628
>this are idols
You will never be Japanese
You will never be white
You will never be considered a human
You will never be welcome here

Selen was bad at a fps i liked. So bad it made me go from watching every steam to pretty much nothing untill she got fired.
Now i ocassionally watch doki but that gameplay was so bad it ruined my perception of her as a good gamer. Which was the main reason i was watching.
Guess the game

>>91382800
It's also about reaction content and lolcow lore.

>>91356513
Zero interactions. If at least one of my comments is never read/liked/hearted, I leave.

>>91382936
It's unfortunately the case with a lot of them. No matter the branch and possibly even no matter the corpo.

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>>91356513
Mori : Mythbreakers vs fleshie TRPG treatment, lean, connor, gura party and that whole arc
Amelia : realized she doesn't like her audience early on
Vesper : realized he was boring after a few streams + he got himself suspended
Kronii : muh idole culture
Aqua : graduated

Dogs are pretty much the only HoloENs I'm still watching now

>>91356513
>doggos
/#/ proving they were botting kinda ruined it for me
Then their RM saying they were gonna ditch for their own idol company

>>91383140
And I don't mean FWMC, just some others.

>>91356513
I stopped watching gigi after she got big from ENreco

>>91356513
out of my timezone

>>91383240
Context for the latter statement?

I dropped everyone but my oshi. She gives me a good amount of content so I'm in no need to watch others, and I've grown tired of tuning into a stream for 10 minutes just to turn it off after I realize I don't really care for the vtuber or the content they make. I've got nothing against them, but they're just simply not for me.

>>91356513
I just don't feel the magic with vtubers anymore. I still watch Kanata and Lamy whenever they're live and enjoy it, but it just doesn't feel the same overall now.

>>91384398
I don't know how people keep up with so many vtubers. Even if I was unemployed without a care in the world I couldn't keep up with that many. I want to play games and do shit to. Can't just lie in bed watching vtubers 18 hours a day.

>>91356513
I stopped watching Fuwamoco because they've mostly stopped playing older games.

>>91356513
No bias but here are my gripes:
>When Gura stopped streaming to do who knows what
>When Kiara kept assblasting and complaining how she can't get this or that
>Ame as affiliate, no offense to Dooby but I prefer the detective thank you.
>Promise unity is already questionable
>Bijou brainrot cringe
>Fuwamoco Bau Bau bit, it's getting real fucking annoying now
>ERB, I never understood the point of rebroadcasts but holy shit I don't want it anymore
>Gigi? Was fine at first until her league addiction came back. Fuck off I hate League.
Now one for the homos:
>Magni and Vesper, the tempus homos fell off their only two sources of entertainment bailed on them on their anniversary and stopped watching them ever since but I seldomly tune in to the orange one.
>Flayon, fujobaiter
>Hakka, also a fujobaiter
>Jurard, buddy I don't get this hate marketing strat it clearly isn't working and you're also too loud.
That's literally it.

>>91384555
I realized why people get stuck in corpos when I tried expanding from indies to watching 2 holos. The members streams, the "streaming 6 days a week" stuff, how long collabs can get, etc. Thank goodness that most slow down a bit after a year or so, because I can barely catch up on their partners. Currently beating myself up over missing out on IRyS because there's so much out there.

>>91384964
Just watching Biboo or Kaela stream is a full time job.

>>91385045
Biboo is another one, like every time I see her in a collab, it's been great. Whenever I see her talking to one of my faves, it's great content, but I just cannot imagine adding her to my list and not getting overwhelmed.

>>91385045
>>91385311
One thing stopping me was being afraid of how her thread might be like. Feels like most people are chill, but I forget if it was her or Kobo's fans who got their thread nuked because of art.

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>>91361942
>rosemi
>selen shock made me unsub from every niji
come back, bud
we won't judge you
hell, Selen is still in her intro

ironically fwmc got me back into watching hololive, but idk they're just so annoying and monotonous, like watching a long-running tv show

>>91367705
>Some faggots harassed her to the point where she felt forced to graduate.
that's not quite what happened
she wanted to continue streaming, but kurosanji wanted her to lay low until the stalker shit resolved
she was having none of that so she graduated and kept streaming instead

>>91385466
How come people keep spreading rumors about her having an onlyfans? She doesn't even have a fansly

>>91361466
Anon there were like four years between nyanners falling off 4chan and deleting all of her videos, and her disavowing her past and claiming that random anons 'groomed' her to make meme videos. The yabbit is absolutely pulling a nyanners in real time.

>>91385592
I have never heard such a rumor

>>91385633
Anon lied to me then, for shame. Thought she wasn't doing great for a second, still miss her

>>91356513
>migo
became a massive corpo poster after the explosion of miComet
>haachama
she became less unhinged after nearly dying
>chloe
her content shifted and did not appeal to my preferences
>kanade
I was hoping she could do more dumb shit but apparently not

at this point I don't even know what chuubas to watch

Dropped pekora after pekomiko fell apart. I liked both of them and it was clear that Pekora was the one that didn't want to reconcile. I could be wrong in my decision, but I've accepted that possibility.

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>>91356628
>This are idols

>>91385710
You can see a pattern here.

>>91369430
I'll add one more on top of that
>dota 2 on twitch

>>91356513
the nippon incident

>>91386511
We're sorry if you feel left out.

>Here you are Moco-chan, your 5% cut
>Th-thank you dear sister

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>>91386538
fuwawa probably beats mococo

>>91382337
I 100% would get a better data plan just to watch Kronii if she didn't have that much favoritism, I don't mind her randomly fucking off for a few days.

it really takes you out of the stream and make you feel like an outsider.

>>91383140
I actually miss Rushia's menhera-ness, you could talk about her (even in english) and she'd randomly like shit talking about her.

>>91379156
Sure you have, sister.

>>91385710
>migo
You're an actual EOP retard.

>>91360486
>anon is a faggot that is actually obsessed with pronouns
Find a rope, retard.

>a JP 2 view
Return to office & getting a gf fucked me hard, dropped almost all chubas for 2 years

I tried to get back to it but she's also far more inactive now.

the moments where she asks me for help thru deepl/google translate is forever etched in my heart.

>>91386501
that's included in the
>permanent decline in effort and care and overall content quality
part

>>91356513
Mankoko...

>>91356513
Black stream.

a

>>91385514
Man that sucks even more, I thought the breaks were her own doing, never realized they were Nijisanji (Guess I should've considering what we know about them now lol). Thanks for clarifying anon

>>91385512
It's like they're playing a character that fits the role well.. a little too well to the point where it no longer feels genuine

>>91387209
seethe more newfag

>>91388020
>I'm not a massive retard, you're just a new fag
Rope immediately.

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I used to like Moona but she did the male collabs so I bounced and haven't watched since. I know she's stopped but I just don't care anymore.

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>>91356513
She's a quitter

>>91388258
>Best pair of tits in EN now going to be gone
fucking grim

I dont get the people in this thread who say "she played one game i didnt like". Drama queen logic.

>>91384555
people that say they're into more than a handful of vtubers never fully keep up with them, they just watch clips or watch multiple streams at the same time deluding themselves into thinking they're absorbing anything.

>>91356513
all EN chuubas after learning japanese

>>91356513
stellaris is orbited by the worst of doxxfags.

I've dropped way too many since I give most of them a chance, I dropped all of justice after a couple of months for example, same with advent, holo X, 5th gen and well you get the idea

The only ones that I still follow and probably forever will until they retire is GAMERS and Raden, all of which I can't stress enough are amazing entertainers.

>>91382337
qrd?