Ogey Edition>What is /lig/?/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.>Why /lig/?Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.Numbers for 12/10:1: https://twitch.tv/nihmune (4,333)2: https://youtube.com/@MintFantome (4,153)3: https://youtube.com/@Dokibird (3,994)4: https://twitch.tv/dooby3D (3,962)5: https://twitch.tv/Sykkuno (3,900)6: https://twitch.tv/OliviaMonroe (2,888)7: https://twitch.tv/OniGiri (2,342) *Tie7: https://twitch.tv/AiCandii (2,330) *Tie9: https://twitch.tv/camila (2,283)10: https://twitch.tv/Limealicious (2,185)Non-English:1: https://twitch.tv/Kamito_JP (4,698) *Japanese2: https://twitch.tv/akamikarubi (3,126) *Japanese3: https://twitch.tv/nacho_dayo (2,752) *Japanese>Wait isn't that one a corpo?/lig/ is a thread for chuubas of a decent size who aren't defined by their corporate branding, either due to the small size of the corporation, lack of brand cohesion, or the independence and lack of oversight granted to the talents>/lig/ Numbershttps://lignumbers.neocities.org/>Twitch Clips Guidehttps://pastelink.net/34vd5>VOD Archival Guidehttps://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide>/lig/ VOD Archivehttps://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig>Koikatsu cards (SEEEEEEEEEX)https://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA>/lig/ Wheel of Nameshttps://wheelofnames.com/49w-z2x>Tiermakerhttps://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--16586688-3>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg>Upcoming BirthdaysDecember 18th - SelkieDecember 19th - Neuro-samaDecember 31st - Naiyospede>OC material for the OPhttps://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw>Ducks(embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) https://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)Other useful threads:>>>/vt//wvt/>>>/vt//corpo/>>>/vt//flip/>>>/vt//haha/>>>/vt//indie/>>>/vt//mint/>>>/vt//swarm/>>>/vt//vrt/>>>/vt//vsj+/Previous Thread: >>91452710
Love my wolf wife
I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
Ecto
my wife is having her anniversary party in one hour yippee
erm
>>91459199
I'm autistic?
>>91459217obese
>>91459214How many years?
>>91459214Blussy
atashi nekomrow
Dya talking about the ai cat game (no melty)
>>914592524
>>91459272dya showing her pussy live on stream
Menace sex x31
Computer generate Nina NTR
>>91459214I wonder how well she can hide the depression today after the bad news
>>91459309Sadly no
>>91459334qrd?
The Witcher 3 did have shit progression.
my wonits
>>91459343she owes some money due some medical bills and her doctor wants to do electroshock therapy on her next and she is really afraid of it, just seems like a stressful situation for her overall
>>91459214blue toes
Fuck I've been sick for like two weeks, why does the flu suck so hard.
>>91459393>she owes some money due to medical bills>her doctor wants her to do more shiterm
>>91459393>electroshock therapy
>>91459393>electroshock therapy????¿
distressing lack of batposts
>>91459420vax status?
>>91459393Ah fuck that does sound nasty. I hope she can have some fun today nevertheless
>>91459446>>91459449I think her doc was talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy
>>91459446>>91459449It's unfortunately pretty common here in Finland especially if medicines don't work on you
uu bep
>>91459393>medical billsisn't she a fingol?
>>91459459non vax
>>91459484Does she have a fansly
Happy Monday lig I blub my oshi and hate the sun!
>>91459497isn't this pretty much the same thing but you're just asleep during it?
>>91459499I miss old Lice
>>91459393>she owes some money due some medical billsdo burgers really?
>>91459497>>9145949970 to 120 volts are applied externally to the patient's head
>>91459499Lisää sähköä päähän!
>>91459569alice sataana vittu
>>91459531yeah but there's nothing on it yet https://fansly.com/Saeko
>>91459499What if she loses her memory? it's like the most common side effect and can fuck up your entire life
>>91459558yeah, but only 800 miliamps
>>91459594>forget about being a menheraIt's a win
>>91459552You don't have to pay medical bills anymore in america, it's best to just ignore them.
>>91459597idc man no one should be shocking anyone's head what a psycho idea
>>91459594>can fuck up your entire lifewould make no difference in her case then
>>91459594she will most likely get a caretaker
>>91459631now that i agree with
so you're telling me if I move to Finland I can get a cute, autistic, mentally AND physically ill gf?
smug eurotrash assholes kill yourselves
>>91459671yeah she's a dyke though
I feel sad now..
>>91459673I look like this and I do that
>>91459678Obtain employment.
>>91459700you're always feeling sad
>>91459584Was just checking but thanks
mooo
>>91459700just have fun with her today
God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)
>>91459700Dont you mean blue
God needs to send me her to make up for his sins
>>91459671Getting a Finnish gf is impossible.
>>91459739I doubt you'd go this far but she does post the r34 she commissions on the subs channel on her discord.
>>91459673this slut
>>91459793*fingers your asshole*
>>91459700Are you fuckers never not talking about how miserable her life is and how you better give her money now or something? She’s not even going to be a 3view soon enough.
>>91459836I like your bait
>>91459594It's fine, she can always go the Hemmingway route
>>91459540>Monday>It's Friday Open up your cheeks Max
>>91459836she barely breaks 100 on a good day lol. the volume of posts doesn’t even sort of match up
>>91459806not with that attitude
>>91459817you're kind of weird
>>91459817*giggles and farts*
>>91459740https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du75-mUBoos
>>91459376It had a lot of bad, copy pasted locations, bad ui, bad hid, bad quest log and map, terrible quest design, useless mechanics, bad enemy ai, bad balancing, game breaking bugs in the main quest, removed the entire thing that made Witcher 1 unique, useless loot, bloated skyrim level quests to pad out the world. But i won't point it out again because I don't want to be called an anti again
>>91459898thanks
>>91459914:essaying:
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
How about you get a girlfriend instead of begging every vtuber to start a fansly, anon
Could Layna be fixed by shocking her head?
>>91459891https://twitchtracker.com/kuul lol
why don't you suck my cock you prancing lala homo man
>>91460066
i like grape
>>91460066we both know you don't actually have a penis or testicles
>>91460033just ignore the schizo he's been on this for years
>>91459673Coqui while chat is grooving to Ocho
This could be us (Me and Olivia Monroe)
>>91460097No it does a good job proving his point, she/they/whatever is barely a 3view and the amount of posts it gets in this thread is ridiculous compared to others
>always on time for her stream>I'm a "hello" in a spam of 500 others>she never notices me>maybe she says a quick hello as she greets 100s of people>guys show up late to her stream almost every day>They dont even bother to make time for her on special stream>posts "hi, what did I miss?" or something>she and chat always greets them enthusiaticly giving them personal attentionI finally get the "fashionable late" thing. I put in evert every day to be with her and she doesn't give a shit but the guys who have no respect get personal responses every day. I hate how even in tubing you can't escape normu real world bullshit
>>91459891that's pathetic. is this really what passes for a large indie in 2024?
>>91460136bruh
he's really upset today kek
>>91460129It's not that ridiculous. She's not even posted every day. There are multiple low 3 views who are vastly more popular here.
>>91460136t. shondophile
>>91460079Say aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I think Joru would be a really nice mom
>>91460033"large" indie
>>91460186
>>91460129Stop moving your goalposts schizo
>>91460136Pathetic.
>>91460150>is this really what passes for a large indie in 2024?No. But this thread hasn't been about large indies since the wvt faggots took over
>>91460233kissing Nazuna's tummy
>>91460240you already got your splitshut the fuck up
>>91460226The goalpost was barely a 3 view and that didn’t change? You are mentally ill
>>91459836>>91459891>>91460129>>91460150
>>91460269i see you're a letter of the law kind of shit eating faggot
starting soon
>>91460319What law? I was just pointing out the volume of posts she gets is absurd for how low her views are.
Dya has dom energy but sadly doesn’t use it to her advantage
>>91460374Read: >>91460172
>>91460325Really sucks the energy out of this thread
This inis kind of hot
>>91460550it's just you
Dya slapping her pussy live on stream
>>91459552kuu is from finland but good one retard>>91460374same with meredith, menace, para, nino
>>91460586The only one of those remotely worth constant posting is Para.
>>91460136I pretend to have wife and kid in some chuuba's chat and she always reads my messages and responds to me even if there are 100s other chatters
>>91460582we don't like her
>>91460699
this is now a bat thread
I think Saru should be meaner and sluttier.
>>91460772this is always a bad thread
thinking about chuuba girlcock
>>91460793you mean BAT thread freaking IDIOT
Uuuuuu I want to start to do other things during sarus stream, I still want to wat h her but during the gaming sections where she's just gaming I want to go outside for a bit. BUT I don't want to become estranged from her or make her think I don't like her anymore, I know she says, just like a lot of other vtubers, that it's OK not to watch them all the time and that there are vods so you should never feel fomo for her but I still think she will think differently of me if I don't watch every stream fully. But on the other hand she has made that comment before when someone said they can make a game of her that "real game devs don't have the time to watch streams all day" so maybe she will not just understand but also think more highly of me if I do spend less time with her and focus in what I want to do, but then I still don't want to miss out on time with her because I like spending my day with her. I also think it's unfair to expect her to stream consistently for 6h every time when I just decide on a whim to go do something else instead of dedicating my time to her too, like imagine showing up to spend time with a friend and they leave to do something else while you're still expecting to sit there and pretend nothings wrong. I got some wireless earbuds so maybe I could start to do other stuff while still listening to the stream since game streams don't have a lot to look at anyway, it's the start and end and dinner break where you need to watch, unless she plays a game I really want to see but then I'll try to watch stream and make it a big event with drinks and food anyway
TIME FOR BLUE
>>91460793>>91460813You guys are a riot!
>>91460700I don’t fucking care you queer
Shondo is free
>>91460820dude go outside it's just a tv show
Filian is a wonderful person who is worthy of love and support
>>91460820saru does not think about you everwith 100% certaintynot reading the rest>>91460835no im a bat HAHAHAA
>>91460847Strawmanning our relationship as "just a TV show" really underwlvalues what saru and I have and shows you don't understand what I mean
>>91460832Hell yeah!
>>91460881as a demon of change I'm saying you should listen to those impulses lest you torture yourself in indecision
>>91460747women love taken men
[4VIEW NEWS]** IMPORTANT **deme doing reactslop and has a subathon tomorrow** IMPORTANT **
>>91461006Giri?
>>91460989we don't watch her
>>91461036shut up meathead
belated from another thread as bill paying anon, but I always offer to pay peeps bills, friends, vtubers, or just people in need. The world is shitty enough and people need as much help as they can get. Anyway ima go back to listening to streams and suffering learning to parry in elden ring
If Saru saw what gets posted here she'd be disgusted.
Olivia Monrodent is watching you
>>91460989Is she still being a whore after the break up?
>>91461047I think Deme is pretty cringe ngl
>>91461084She's not single anymore
Do we like Layna?
>>91459188>willed an Okami sequel into existenceYour wife is powerful
Holy shit how the fuck do people have the endurance to wake up and then actually do productive things this is fucking insufferable.
>>91461112Stop being such a big baby
>>91461112willpowerwake up at 5am and workout fagtard
>>91461111She is the #1 okami fan
>>91461084They got back together
>>91461029Yep>>91461101I thought she broke up with her bf?
>>91461112By not having 10 different sleep disorders like you have.
why have all meat's collab partners dropped her except 3am? she have to beg snuffy to collab again lmao
>>91461156what do you do for a job
>>91461158>#1 okami fanah yes the #1 okami fan that calls amaterasu "okami"
>>91461176They got back together
>>91461159God she a mess
There's no way vesper is THAT sick, she's just ditching because she can, right?
>>91461176
>>91461112I don't have the endurance but I have to do it anyway or I'll become homeless so it's the lesser of two evils
>Doesn't oneshot a boss >Gets annoyed why do people watch this?
>>91461192overpaid corpo slave in tech
>>91461194Yes
>>91461224I don't watch her for the gameplay
>>91461239>overpaidokay now find the motivation to 5am workout when you're underpaid
>>91461239Give me your money
>>91461282i did the same thing when i was unemployed but keep coping
>>91461224She's good for being retarded.
>>91461182I think the sleep disorders are just a natural reaction to everything else.
>>91461332>unemployedfind the motivation when you're underpaid and employed
https://www.twitch.tv/silvervaleWolf wife live!
>>91461364What if you have central sleep apnea?
Since its dead hours i just want to start some shit, snickers >every other candy bar, the only thing that comes close is kitkat but it can get too sweet because of the chocolate, snickers has nuts that dull the sweetness and it also makes you actually full unlike other candy bars.
>>91461191Why is it always esl?
>>91461393I don't eat candy
>>91461393Kitkat is better than snickers and comes in more flavoursGreen tea kitkat is peak
>>91461224Losing to a boss disrupts the narrative flow of the game. It feels much better to win on the first try and experience the story in the heat of the moment then to be dulled by repeated attempts of the same scenario
>>91461428While true that kitkat has more flavors you can't ignore the fact that those aren't easily available like the standard ones, in most cases you would have to order kitkat from Japan if you want different flavors
>>91461389Juni I know you are really passionate about sleep apnea but crashing out from a dream after it provokes a single thought about how life is going isn't a breathing problem.
>>91461445I wonder if a chuuba that just read books to chat would work?
>>91461490Being exhausted after sleeping indicates that other sleep cycles are shit too and not just REM.
>>91461476You can get them off amazonCheckmate
>>91461112you get used to it
vtubers? Just kidding. I don't care
i am engaging in "the great game" with the_smasher over who wins the right to groom kuu's hag pussy
>>91461428You would have an opinion on chocolate
>>91461532Some ASMR chuubas try that
>>91461112dingus can be eaten by bugs
>>91461533I'm exhausted because I get kicked from sleep after like 5h and every minute of thinking after makes me more and more compelled to try and crack my skull on the nearest wall.
Saru talking about Italian woman stereotype is very ironic.
>>91461112Sometimes I wake up and go to the gym before going to work. >>91461382And she's stalking us from the windows.
>>91461675Your move
>>91461684you know women like chocolateif you give it to them they'll suck your dick and maybe fuck you
>>91461751>"Oh fuck my wine" said the French woman while eating snails
>>91461779when i get my next paycheck i'll buy her bondage boots
open the windows lig
>>91461783I have no experience with obese people flirting strategies but that sounds plausible for you
>>91461809>man has never given a woman chocolateAnd you wonder why all these people are virgins
>>91461802Based
>>91461847So you just need to exchange chocolate to fuck as a fat person? People at my weight usually have to go on dates first
tob stole my tob points
I will not engage with someone who has never even given a woman chocolate and followed into getting their dick sucked ez because instead they decided to go on some lame ass date to the arcade that smelled like ask body spray
Saru has a midget pussy and exaggerates her accent. There are some rumors about her not so impressive mental aquity too.
>>91461966Maybe you can engage with a treadmill instead
>>91461912This is some really sad cope
What if I put my cock in Saruei's retarded midget pussy
>>91459327This but NTS
>>91462064You'll have a retarded midget cock.
>didn't Ike the ililian boatc>says a one liner that's funny and slightly sexualN>owctshe likes the Italian gielSaru like me when I watched her first time years ago
if someone was mean to kuu i think i would just kill them
>>91462117
>>91462064Saru can't keep a bf because her bussy death grips it too hard and guys refuse to have sex with her more than once
haha WOW sorry guys i was pretty drunk last night when i was making those posts about ecto
>Silver watched game awards with Chilledoh no she's going to pull Nyan
burger king foot lettucethe last thing you want in your burger king burger is some foot fungusbut that might be what you just get
>>91462188Chills? The silly voice guy?
>>91462188Art you a year late?
>>91462165I think it had more to do with her BPD but OK.
>>91462260Both are possible
She gonna play the Ezio trilogy
saru rage my beloved
I love my dog
What if Bat played modern games
>>91462332AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>91462382what if you stopped postingwhat about that
[Silver news] She has tons of okami merch including nendos, slippers and clothes
>>91462382She hates modern games
no >>91462382
>>91462358repulsive
>>91461966if I sucked your cock would you give me chocolate too
Saru's being very grumpy today. Is she still on her period?
>>91462488doesn't some guy here have a period calendar
Why is your oshi your oshi
>>91462488Hasn't started yet, should be soon
It got so cold i had to switch to a sweater, i fucking hate cold bros
>>91462588me too bro... want to cuddle up under a blankie and watch bat together?
>>91462442uh oh melty
>>91462614Yes lets watch her do randomized zelda :)
>>91462400No faggot
i miss joru
>>91462525Its the pre-period rage
>>91462524Wish I knew. For some reason being around her makes me feel peaceful as long as I don't think about things too hard.
>runs into objects with the horse>fall off>"THIS FUCKING HOOOOOORSEE"
you guys i like kuu
>>91462172i like the ecto postsi find them cute and funny
when i get drunk for some reason i stop watching vtubers and start watching minecraft slop, like 100 days kind of slop, I don't even watch minecraft content but when im drunk it hits different
>starts rudely yelling at chatters>gets gifted subsThis is why other women hate her
>>91462876I've been subjected to exactly one of those videos and I already feel sorry for you.
>>91462172im thinking mating press
>>91462883anyone with a functioning brainstem hates her
>>91462847Why does her raging make my pp hard?
>>91462476ye
>>91463004why are you upsetdo you want to talk about it
>>91463004Femanon detected.
>>91463029>>91463038what the fuck
>>91463054what
Filian pwns this thread fr
>>91463054ANSWER ME
>>91462358When is she back anyway? I saw her talking about being in Washington DC yesterday
Layna deserves leukemia
>>91463012For me it's that though her rage comes on quick and intense, it always comes off as somehow harmless and correctable. The rage just asks to be dicked down in response.
Bought a smoked chicken leg, gonna DESTROY it later
fat dog cunt dying on the operating table after a botched gastric bypass
schizo retards
>>91463335RIP Vienna
>>91463296uh oh melty!
ah I see, he's throwing around his random bait again to see what sticks
>>91463019really?
>>91463335
What is the mass of pookie's fat head?
>>91463455Typically the chocolate comes first yeah
>>91463296kek, this could happen because she's obese
I want to fall asleep with my dick in Moriko's pussy! does it even feel good when it's just sitting in there all soft with no stimulation?
>>91463505real lulz for me :)
>>91463514Your instincts kick in to thrust there's a lot of of nerves that fire from even the slightest movements
>>91463514sengoku rance has a scene like this
>>91463514am I the only one always having a pee after sex to avoid utis?
>>91463514This anon is soaking.
Good morning /lig/ I love my oshi.
>>91463688it's moriko just pee inside
>>91463514it doesn't really stay in onced you go limp
Saru does not share lusies empathy for that girl who fucked 100 guys
>>91463721micro penis anon…
>>91463742mom said it's average
>>91463784why did you show your dick to your mum
>>91463739Good, no one forces her to do it, she brought it on herself.
>>91463804Outside America family nudity is normal
>>91463804it actually was yours
I like it when kuu laughs
>>91463877
https://files.catbox.moe/gzazcy.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/3ywx59.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/udit82.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/w1guef.png
>>91463877>>91463919now kiss
>>91463928heavenlyfather
>>91463931heh
>>91463928disgusting
>>91463739Lucy sees someone cry and starts crying herself
>>91463739>lusies
Can you really just buy kangaroo meat in the store?
>>91464123in australia yeah
Olivia enjoyers, should I watch the deodorant review vod?
>>91464152Then how the fuck did Saru get some in France?
remember anny?
>>91463931
>>91464203
Saru, I already ate again. And desert. We need to work on our food syncing
>>91410612Perfect body
>>91464266she's wearing a corset
womp womp
>>91464179Are you retarded? They are like a train ride away from each other,it's next to Germany
>>91464289>A corset is a support garment worn to hold and train the torso into the desired shape and posture.The world record corset lady is basically disfigured even when she takes it off
>>91464164yes
>>91464312Oh Ogey
>>91463928Make them white I cannot self insert
>>91464348Remember when saru used to wear a corset on stream to train her body. That was kind of hot.
>>91464348>desired shape>disfigured
Is she playing the weirdass 2009 game for alpha males today?
Sarus opinion on kangaroo meat>it's definitely meat>it's hard to chew>it doesn't taste much
>>91464442Was it pre vtuber? What was she training for?
>>91464530>nooo you can't just have an opinion on if someone took something too far
Oh yeah I forgot saru cooks her meat with no seasoning. She still has a way to go to be trad, she's still eating plain rice or plain pasta with plain meat just like 3 years ago
>>91464540it's a tourist trap, they sell that for the same price as steaks when it's a pest animal purely to rip off tourists who want to try it
>>91464530reading comprehension retardanon is saying desired as in the purpose of the corset, not desirable as in beauty
>>91464572No, it was at the start of the year for her cosplay and I think before she went to Japan
grimmi grimmi grimmi
>>91464578post it for /lig/ to judge
>>91464312actually the biggest kangaroo meat consumer in eu is italy, next should be the netherland or belgium
>>91464583Is there anything more traditional than eating almost raw meat like a caveman?
>>91464617Why would they train it into an undesirable shape anon?
>>91464625I guess that was before she decided to just photoshop her cosplays out the ass.
>>91464678eating fruit
minge ass
>>91464678Getting tapeworms from said meat.
>>91464540you're supposed to use it in curry or a stew or something slow cooked. You don't eat it as a steak. before when butchers existed, if you asked the butcher, he'd give you a kangaroo tail for free and you could use that to make a stew. Nowadays it's too expensive for anything
>>91464678eating nuts (foraged)
>mhm>zipper sound
>>91464583I do this too and it's great, why change anything
>>91464646https://youtu.be/OKqnhsxk7xM?t=290
ITST HE FU KING BUNNY THAT TRIPS OVER THE WIRE I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE IT AGAIN
She loves us!
>>91464757
>>91464583She needs a bf to teach her how to cook. I can do it
>>91464791It makes me way too happy when she tela us that
>>91463335the main creator of schizo retards
>>91464683anon was commenting on the purpose of a corsetyou are complaining about beauty standards see how these are different ESLchama?dont bother replying i dont talk to third worlders
>>91464750I do this when sweet chestnuts drop
>>91464765Meat without seasoning sucks.
>>91464846Simply sear it better
Would you kiss Saru if she burped in your mouth after just shitting her diaper?
man asses mom is a lesbian??? wtf
>>91464711>>91464750We should invent a dietary trend that requires people to eat only foraged berries and nuts just because it would be funny to have random people roam the woods like an irl The Forest lobby.
Cant bake rn. Sry
>>91464889We would have to test it but I suspect the love will override any feelings of disgust like it does with other bodily excretions
>>91464846the american mind
>>91464932isnt that just keto
>>91464966It's paleo
>>91464950What caused your ban
>>91464932This but different forests are like different lobbies and some have like airsoft or larp weapons and if you get gronked while being a berry picker you have to give them up
>>91464874>just sear it even more bland Eww, just learn to cook it's not hard.
>>91464966Keto is all fats no sugarSo berries aren't keto
>>91464777There comes a point when you need to stop, was it just for the record or mental illness?
>>91465018So if seasoning is not present you are unable to cook? I can go one way or the other but it's not a deal breaker as long as you have tastebuds capable of subtlety
>>91464957>it's americans that use spicesWhat?
>>91465097>>91465097>>91465097
>>91464837You sound mad that you misunderstood the conversation
>>91465095I can eat meat that is not prepared but it always will taste blander than actually preparing it and taking the time to do it. I really like to cook though and don't look at food as just energy, I like to make ever meal good as it can be. Same goes for my care in any handling of the animal/meat before actual cooking.
>silver is crying again Why is she so quick to crying
