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Holiday cheer - Edition

>What is /fig/?
/fig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss idol vtubers who play fighting games and (beat em ups), either from large companies, small ones, or indies, as well as to discuss fighting games about Hololive and other vtubers in general.

>So is this thread about fighting games or Idol showdown?
Neither: this is a thread about idols and fighting games.

>But what is an idol?
An idol is something unobtainable and moe that makes your kokoro go doki doki (WIP)

>Is {X} a fighting game?
Temporally we will define fighting games as games fighting idols play.

>Are beat em ups a fighting game?
No, but we will use the loophole above provide a home for them temporally as well since most of the fighting idols also play beat em ups. If the genre seems to have a revival at some point, we would recommend splitting this thread (again).

>I have no friends, can I ask for games here?
Just post a request in the GAME ANCHOR

>Idol Showdown stuff
IS patch notes: https://steamdb.info/app/1742020/patchnotes/
Beta builds: https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1660016297164390405 (embed) (embed)
Twitter Tech: https://pastebin.com/XQtD5D1y (embed) (embed)
Tiermaker: https://tiermaker.com/categories/video-games/updated-idol-showdown-characters-1434585

>HoloXBreak stuff
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2719150/Holo_X_Break/

>Glossary of Fighting Terms
https://glossary.infil.net/

>Hololive Smash Clone fangame (EN side)
https://x.com/holoforcedev/status/1866244112220901843

>Hololive Smash Clone fangame (JP side)
https://twitter.com/AoiSora_3D

>Fighting Idols
Seeking for a chuuba who plays fightan? check our well catered selection of seiso idols (and a few extra):
https://rentry.org/figidols

>Recent Fightan Streams
- Nemu 2nd impact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhXmYY5WVTU
- Amayui streets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rKqWlsqoWE
- More Amayui streets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3wv5LtHdiI
- Azusa streets: https://www.youtube.com/live/FLnTQxXth1g
- Maria Marionette tekken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQgUdn0xmL8
- Nana streets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye4pbjGeuwc
- Tomori streets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyl81RrnUwU
- Super Meche fighter friday Groove on fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmGEfwGqhfQ
- Hiyori Mokami tekken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwEUMiNYm7M

>How do I git gud? (Youtube videos)
https://pastebin.com/pnzsYe4C (embed) (embed)

>OFFICIAL GUIDE TO PLAYING FIGHTAN (Will be updated): https://rentry.org/vaqrg8r4

>Lost your motivation to play fighting games? Read this cute girls manga:
https://mangatoto.com/series/94090

>"FT10 NOOB!" "My oshi can beat your oshi!"
Take that somewhere else, this thread is full of newbies who just want to play the funny idol game. Be nice.

>How do I git gud? (Youtube videos)
https://pastebin.com/pnzsYe4C (embed) (embed)
>OFFICIAL GUIDE TO PLAYING FIGHTAN (Will be updated): https://rentry.org/vaqrg8r4

>Lost your motivation to play fighting games? Read this cute girls manga:
https://mangatoto.com/series/94090

>News for December 13th, 2024
- Coyo still dying as we speak
- Niji tekken tournament soon
- Clive announced for tekken, Shimada pops off while everyone else groans
- Virtua fighter 5 beta out NOW but also virtua fighter 6 isreal
- /fig/ will be playing against /tactical/ in the next unity cup for divegrass

>tigers
https://www.twitch.tv/zoolifetiger (embed) (embed)

And remember: No discords, no names, no fighting. Only idols and love. wao!

Other useful threads:

>>>/vt/hfz/
>>>/vt/mayo/
>>>/vt/nepolabo/
>>>/vt/brg/
>>>/vt/fvr/
>>>/vt/towa/
>>>/vt/jong/
>>>/vt/pcg/

previous frontier: >>91342196
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Anchor post for finding games. Idol showdown, Street fighter, Tekken, Fightcade. Anything goes, just keep in mind that not everyone has the game you own
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super meche was playing Groove on fight today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmGEfwGqhfQ
I'll check out the vod later though
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kwab
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why thread ded
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>>91466382
too busy fapping to chun-li doujins
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>>91465325
I was going to post it but /fig/ was dead when she started
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMi0Plk81x8
kanna playing kekken
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>>91467526
finally
Sex duck
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kanna does NOT want to see sweaty shirtless men in tekken today
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harpie SEX
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oh
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https://x.com/LRizzen/status/1866592545305923934
guess this is the art she was talking about
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FIGHTAN BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY
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>>91468439
she stopped playing fgs for over a month we'll be fine
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>>91468439
recording her sex tape with me
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>>91468370
I was right
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too sleepy for kekken, NOW we got too cocky
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>no tekken
kanna....
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>>91468670
>>91468737
Just wait for the Clive dlc to be playable. All the girls will be running back
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>chat telling her to rest
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>>91468439
press F to play respects
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>>91467213
and mai isnt even out...
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you say this but most people cant stand knowing they lost because of their own mistakes, this is why lol is the biggest game on earth and fighting games are dying since 1999
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it's no use, en figgers have betrayed us, I will have to learn japanese OD BLITZ が -4 で c.lp が ASS の場合、ED プレイヤーはBURGER KINGまたはMCDONALDSで仕事を探さざるを得なくなります。
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>>91469521
Ikemen clive will bring them back
the only thing women like more than tekken is FF14
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shimada already thirsting anyways https://x.com/ShimadaTiger/status/1867389597531222490
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>>91469752
she is right on the no one else part
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>>91469513
That's why I blame my losses on the other guy playing a high tier character and calling them carried
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guess she was also playing VF https://x.com/ShimadaTiger/status/1867454575751692693
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https://x.com/BuffGigas/status/1867582924209762393
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>>91469752
all lesbians have at least one fictional man who's the exception
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while not the fighting game, maybe botan will also try out VF https://x.com/shishirobotan/status/1867521031424160052
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>>91472297
anime men look like women anyway
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skibidi
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>>91473843
>akuma
>ken
>ryu
SHOTO GODS WE ARE EATING GOOD
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>page 10
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dima tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/dimatheduchess
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da wose with my favorite tekken tag 2 character https://x.com/Rosemi_Lovelock/status/1867432454866207037
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Did the coyodachi team do well in their tournament
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>>91477098
snoop dog would had been unironically a top tier dlc
but in MK1
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KIARA WILL PLAY TEKKEN
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>>91479414
no she will play another 20 jrpgs
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like it or not, generic broody sexy final fantasy boy WILL bring in the chuubers to stream your fighting games
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big brain blanka main: https://www.twitch.tv/olko_official
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>>91482222
i wont complain if it actually works
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>>91482222
why do you, as a man, care about how other men look like? You should be thinking of ranked
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>>91484525
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lib
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I don't even know what I'm doing anymore. I'm just pressing buttons and being a retard
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>>91488027
let the neuch flow through you
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>>91484752
the wisdom of the ancients
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>>91488027
you reached tekken level 3
at the final level, you dont even press any buttons, you are just a retard, and win
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its weird this menu select makes the game feel older than games older than it
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>>91488826
>>91488826
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aiMf9kSlk-8
it took me my entire life to play tekken like a child - Picasso
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>VF is a bunch and kick button + a gaurd button
>everything else is macros
uh, interesting choice
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>>91489786
its called virtual for a reason
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ded
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>>91493038
>practing jamie for two weeks
>got invited to a local
>decide to pull bison instead raw without practice because fuck jamie
> still wreck to top 8

Yeeah baby muscular memory. The weird part is that I was still trying to anti air with the ex dp
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>>91488854
>Not pictured: my shiny metal wife
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Harada jumpscare
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>>91496685
fake spic never played kof
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rina tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/rinamarinavt
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https://x.com/KannaPixelLink/status/1867715779279425788
kanna should stop buying snoy station controllers
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/pink/ streets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyuZESs3CpU
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other pink who says JP/EN. Seems to have subs https://www.twitch.tv/rioriodayo
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>>91506136
we all wish ina had fatter thighs but this is just off model
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lib
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>>91507355
that's not Ina, it's Ina's cousin, Re'Ina
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I give up
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>>91509722
on what
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>>91509897
Everything pretty much
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>>91509980
that narrows you down to like 4 different anons here
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>>91509722
tako...
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>>91510008
Nope
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amayui streets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJTOBhc6h6o
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she's playing against acqua and its pretty even
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How is everyone enjoying the VF5 beta?
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>>91510853
i tried it a bit but I cant get used to the controls, I dont remember the last time I played VF but my brain kept trying to play it like tekken
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>>91511634
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>>91512878
wao
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>>91513660
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>>91510853
>How is everyone enjoying the VF5 beta?
I really like how they compressed the impact of weight classes ie how long you can air combo someone which has always correlated to the Final Showdown tier list. In the R.E.V.O. revision, all the previously top tier (Akira, Jacky, Taka) and solidly mid tier (Jean, Wolf, Jeffry) heavyweight classes are lighter so now easier to air combo while all the super lightweight low tiers (El Blaze, Eileen, Aoi) are heavier so they are now harder to air combo. The net result being that you don't have to worry about character exclusive combo routes like before since they have been standardized closer to the middleweight with Taka in particular being much less of a pain in the ass to combo his heavy ass since he bounces off the ground more and also easier to use ukemizeme strategies against him when he is knocked down and you need to guess how he will recover.
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>>91511456
What does it mean when your opponent just stands there and the camera keeps jittering and resetting and every time you punch them you get hit even though they're not moving?
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>>91516012
You need someone to point out that ironing out issues witht he new rollback netcode is the very point of a week long beta release?
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>>91511634
wao
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>>91509722
Never give up
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>>91516203
I thought someone had just figured out how to cheat already.
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>>91509722
Devsan...
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>>91509722
you cant give up literally every time you face a minor inconvenience dev san
being this much of a menhera is a woman's thing
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>>91509722
Just put it up on github and I'll help, devsan...
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>>91511634
ok sure
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>>91517576
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>>91519101
It isn’t a minor inconvenience, it’s something that will destroy development in its entirety.
>>91520143
Not GitHub, just join the discord
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>>91524743
>it’s something that will destroy development in its entirety.
and that would be?
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>>91524923
Graphics bottleneck
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>>91524960
of what kind?
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>>91478425
they suffered a humiliating defeat
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>>91524978
The kind that would mean the game can’t hit stable 60 even though computationally it should be able to. Graphics cards, integrated or otherwise, just can’t process to draw fast enough.
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>>91525070
I know gamemaker isn't the best thing ever, but what are you rendering that's so heavy it's simply not feasible to be achieved? Stage + as many as 4 characters + FX + UI? Where's the bottleneck? Are the character animation sheets all "present"at once or something so every character is extremely heavy to render/load?
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>>91525286
>Are the character animation sheets all "present"at once or something so every character is extremely heavy to render/load?
Yes, and there’s not much of a way to get around that
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>>91525404
figures, and gamemaker doesn't have good 3d capabilities for you to "just" switch to 3d where animations are easier to store. From the perspective of someone who tried to make a shitty holo fangame over 3 or 4 years ago, I switched to godot and it was considerably faster. How much have you coded? Godot isn't hard to learn at all and it has some robust rollback addons, I know switching engines is the last thing you'd like to go through, but you already have the logic + game design + models with animations, might as well make the switch to godot so your game can actually run, it's either that or an incredibly unoptimized game
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>>91525545
>How much have you coded?
The game is basically done.
I’ve looked into Godot some. It seems very similar to Unity, and just like Unity, it doesn’t make sense to me. The way the development pipeline is constructed is very confusing.
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>>91525633
I don't know enough since I just dropped the game I was making a long time ago and don't have godot experience, but between giving up and porting what would you rather do? There's resources online to understand gm to godot, and there's a tool to convert gm2 projects to godot, won't work all that well but it supposedly can help so you don't start from literal scratch
https://github.com/Infiland/GM2Godot
alternatively, is 30 fps at least achievable in what you have now?
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>>91525987
>alternatively, is 30 fps at least achievable in what you have now?
It hits 60 most of the time on my unit, dips to 54 at the lowest occasionally when it has to draw a lot of things at once. That’s not amazing though, since running at consistent 60 is something that fighting games require.

I can look into the conversion process.
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on top of that, there's also this engine that already has some stuff for the logic of basic collision +fg stuff, it's aimed at classic fightans but you can ask the discord for help, this uses godot asa base as well, hope you can find something that works!
https://castagneengine.com/
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>>91526355
I wonder if it has rhomboid collision
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wao
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>>91527680
oaw
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is this game actually good or
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>>91528270
it is DMC but what if final fantasy
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>>91527793
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coyo sex
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>>91530641
noooo stoppp
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you could literally have done this anywhere else
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>>91528270
shimada is literally the only person i've seen say the story is good, and she likes basically any shounen sloppa
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>>91531774
wait im confused
what was this?
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>page 10
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>>91532656
>>91525004
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>>91533700
this doesn't help
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After playing Jamie for almost two weeks, I can conclude that people who dont have fun playing fighting games are just playing the wrong characters

Jamie has nothing
nothing
Everyone who plays this garbage is so deep into stockholm syndrome they cant see they would do better with literally any other character
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>>91535361
>do a palm
unlike honda, bison, or blanka or anyone else, its slow enough so it can be jumped on reaction and you eat a full punishment.
> do a rush
slow as fuck rush, can also be jumped on reaction to eat a full punishmet,
>do a cartwheel
drive impact
>play defensive
no tools against hadoken

Every match i tell myself " what the fuck im supposed to do" then i feel relief when i realize im not supposed to do anything I dont have to play this character.
I feel bad for those who do tho
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>>91535631
what other games and characters have you played before sf6? genuinely curious
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Green lia: https://www.twitch.tv/pmaxtaron?sr=a
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>>91536068
soul calibur 2 in a borrowed play2 and Smash bros 64, and there was one with a cow which name i dont remember
so basically nothing
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streams?
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huntress live, streets soon?: https://www.twitch.tv/huntress
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>>91556379
anyer...
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https://www.twitch.tv/kkcyber
shimada with game that ends up in fights
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>>91558535
which one is she gonna try to make out with live on stream
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>>91559161
in my experience so far she is the one getting harassed in collabs
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>kk beats shimada on reactions
she has the gene
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>>91536068
actually why are you asking? I was sort of expecting a reply...
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>>91560609
KK is inserting dominance in the force
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niji tekken tournament was going on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnDdkrgyfro
king vs king about to start
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did henemimi just say shimada's been trying to teach her fighting games?
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>>91570823
dont get your hopes up
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its kind of funny watching this and noticing the 2 next to rosemi have worst rigging than an indie
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>>91569967
>89 minutes
guess no one watches niji here
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>>91571595
I legit did not know when it was gonna happen since it feels like niji was not advertising this at all
I'm also watching like 2 other things at the same time
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I dont think its helping that I dont know these chuubas names
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>>91571453
i think mimi has enough hater in her to push through the pain
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>>91564252
I started playing fightans in 3s with dudley so I have the idea that using specials for neutral is bad since machine gun upper is shit if it's blocked, that as well as playing characters that have reactable "neutral skip" specials or needing to use resources to make them not shit on block or even rewarding on hit. Though this was flipped in my head when I saw yesterday that HOS' rock it is +3 so it made me realize that I should fuck around with neutral skip specials, I wanna get more into +r
Seeing you say jamie's neutral is bad because bad neutral skip specials/bad interaction with universal mechanics stood out to me as I mostly try to play around with normals, leading me to use neutral specials as a "fuck it" rather than a tool to use commonly, so I wanted to know what drove you to play a more "committal" neutral in my eyes since I see specials as something that will end badly for me if blocked and not much reward if it hits. I know shit about soul cal and smash64 to me was the game where I chose kirby and did the rock move so I can't make conclusions
Also the cow game is Fighter's Destiny I think
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BEAR KINO
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>>91572610
>I wanted to know what drove you to play a more "committal" neutral in my eyes since I see specials as something that will end badly for me if blocked and not much reward if it hits
dunno its just that it feels weird everyone has "something" in sf6. I think its normal in other games but seems to me here everyone has a special trick but him and the tricks he has (divekick) needs to be unlocked. Im just comparing to any of the other character I tried dunno in general if they are expecting me to do anything else

Oh yeah thats the cow I recall that game being fun
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>easy modo character still couldn't beat lily
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someone should go to the niji thread to spy what they are saying
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I dont care about nijisanji
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I feel like theres something missing from the commentary. You got 3 people but it sounds like all of them don't know what they are commentating
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>>91576777
No one talking about it besides linking streams
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I dont know how I didn't realize they are only doing 2 rounds
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>>91579115
Oh wait the EN thread is talking about it quite a bit, nothing out of the usual live posting though
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>low parries
>stares at the bear
love me some noob tekken
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missing the early part means I have no idea how these points work
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>she feels king cumming
what did rosemi mean by this
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is notRosemi winning?
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>>91585291
third place
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I know the green one at least
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>>91586146
yeah finana is /really/ good at beating the shit out of her own coworkers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMxq0UyBggA
hanabi streets
I wonder why japanese people like modern so much
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>>91586601
hanabi finally streets again after playing gta for a month...
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harada...
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wao
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amaya streets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrAyAipOb2Q
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ded
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https://x.com/Rosemi_Lovelock/status/1868184533520032157
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sleb
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wao
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3S Pink Dudley Botan
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DAY 2 - Kings of the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA9iaIDE6LI
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>>91594924
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>>91528270
From what I remember of Ina's streams the story was "dark" (read: Characters got naked and whenever you did side content one or more nameless dudes died) and gameplay was deboned DMC and I was always really frustrated when a boss was stunned because they were hard stuck to the floor while you just wailed on them.
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>>91595711
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>>91593747
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>>91601374
sex with lioness
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>>91601374
ouhhh hag...
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https://x.com/shishirobotan/status/1868253471402815842
Botan doing an offline streets event for christmas
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la creatura: https://www.twitch.tv/dreammxy
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flour
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>>91608609
the last mk player...
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>>91610377
not true, sonicfox will play mk until the earth shrivels up
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hag love
https://x.com/blueta9810/status/1868311889689838052
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>>91572610
WATCH THAT
MOO
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Amanda Splatts is doing a guerilla I thought you'd be interested in. For one, this one is hosted by Sandruby, a character from Amanda's lore. And two, {spoiler]She's playing Shaq-Fu[/spoiler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTwfaH4oDFU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTwfaH4oDFU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTwfaH4oDFU
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>>91611322
if you ctrl s you can spoiler automatically
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>>91611322
you are doing this on purpose arent you
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>>91601374
would you allow your mom to go out like this?
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>>91612913
would you
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>>91614136
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kwab
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any fig streams\?
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>>91616625
dreamy is live with tekken right now >>91608609
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>>91616863
ill take it
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>>91506136
Nice thighs
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>>91611880
mebbe
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the no streams
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green lia; https://www.twitch.tv/pmaxtaron
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>>91624817
powerful juri anon energy here
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>>91572610
Fighters Destiny, based. Boro best girl.
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>sophie live
>but its mahvel rivals
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>>91629139
do not know why but this one always looks sort of to me like a special needs child
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>>91630845
dont they all
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>>91634430
what does it say
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hoontress streets: https://www.twitch.tv/huntress
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>>91635189
din din din ding ding ding ding din
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Another day of Hwoarang mains deserving nothing but horrible things
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>>91636544
is there a single honest character in tekken?
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>>91636667
negan
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Anyonr who you guys think could get into jojos?
>>91630614
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>>91637332
unfortunately, /fig/ is the exclusive domain of newgen fighters who don't play many older games. meche has probably played it for a one-off but that's it.
gyaru plays boomer games but no one talks about her here.
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>>91637332
Meche does retro fightans every friday but i never seen her play jojo
https://www.youtube.com/@super_meche
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>>91637332
Shimada tiger used to do fightcade nights but right now she is in her racing game phase
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>>91637903
what is this, a schedule for ants?
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>>91637332
if you are ok with jps nemupipi plays retro fightans all the time
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC19jIOPqzpV05aqiGpceXYg
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>>91638003
the word fightcade is readable thats enough
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>>91637332
not sure about jojo but we got a rentry if you want fgc vtubers
https://rentry.org/figidols
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>>91637332
perhaps in the male side
unfortunately we specialize in female only and they mostly play modern shit. I think /vrt/ might be able to help >>91606576
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>>91638003
no for argies
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>>91638410
I DO WHAT I CAN
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>>91638354
when people say vtuber they often mean female vtuber
when they want to include males they say streamer
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americans explain this pls
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>>91638410
i guess i've always envisioned him as a small, small man
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>>91638688
i assume these are FGC regions? no way new york is segmented in half like that.
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>>91638688
My state is not mid
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>>91638688
Look up flyover states, that'll explain everything.
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>>91637573
Can you link me to this gyaru?
>>91637746
>>91637903
>>91638013
Ill try to get them to play!
>>91638354
Well, i meant anyone, but female would probably be better. I want more people into the game
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>>91638688
A third of that is just barren land and mountains
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>>91639837
i thought that was a response to this >>91639519
it fits
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>>91639837
why does california has a containment zone
oregon seems to be in the actual west coast too
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>>91640643
oregon and washington are "the pacific northwest"
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Everyone is having a fight on twitter because of PS5 and I am reminded i got fucked in a local because it didnt read the adapter for the keyboard so this is finally the first twitter fight i ever seen that affects me personally

also leverless thingy will finally arrive in a week wont have time to play until february anyway gonna keep it closed until the 25th to give me a Christmas gift to myself
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>>91641107
https://x.com/Bigbird_fgc/status/1868460227202597112
also the imput lag was terrible in that local , the monitors were no good to the point i decided to train in -2f
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>>91638013
Speaking of, it's 3rd Strike time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEAqaQArDTs
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https://x.com/Bloo4LYFE/status/1868385155276054944
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alex is so cool
too bad he's stuck being that dedicated twitter video clip character
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russian stage theme slaps
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>>91642577
Every protag from streets but ryu is doomed to fail
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>>91642848
whatchu mean everyone loves RASHIDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>91642577
>Taunt recharge
This isn't her first time playing IIIs right
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>>91642985
not sure, I mostly see her play streets 2 when she gets posted
on that note hugo is fucking cheating
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I dont think she knows how to parry
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>>91643033
Cpu always cheat
Also makoto in 6 never
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>>91643403
It's harder than it looks
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oh boy round 3
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Gil time
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thats 1 for gil
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Damn she was close of doing it first try
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2 for gill
Do we see 3
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>gets close the first time
>proceeds to job every other time
such is the life of an arcade boss
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>>91644244
That's how they used to steal your coins back in the day
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I feel like if she learned to DP on reaction this would be no problem
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She did it
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>>91644836
Al least the experience from the other streets paid off
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still wild to me they even thought about bringing 12 back in jive



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