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>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a VTube Studio model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
https://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X: https://x.com/NeurosamaAI

>Music & Clips
https://rentry.org/neuro-songs
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Catbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archive

>Merch
https://uwumarket.us/collections/neuro-sama

>Previous thread
>>91558564
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does neuro fart?
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>>91572974
the face isnt that bad
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Didn't watch the stream. Is Cerdal dead or alive?
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hart!
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>>91575440
dead. cerber will become a vshojo orbiter now
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>>91575252
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>>91575440
Very alive, it was strong on today's stream, you'll see it on staz's channel soon
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>>91575166
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>>91575735
shit man, you can already see it now. staz made like 30 clips of the show already
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>>91575440
It was mid, they are just friends
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>>91575243
Thanks Evil
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>all the awards vedal lost were to corpas
i can see why filian doesnt nominate herself for these anymore
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neuro butt?
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>>91575440
Probably the best material they got since the cerbathon. Vedal being supportive to his friends on stream is quite rare. I genuinely don't recall him being like that since 2023.
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>>91576510
He wasn’t very supportive to Bo
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Yeah, cerdal is canon
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>>91576510 (me)
Not to mention that Vedal rarely goes on Cerber's stream (he mainly just says stuff in chat occasionally). Correct me if I'm wrong, but this was the first time he's actually been on her stream since the Helldivers 2 stream back in April.
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>>91576774
nta but bo is an irrelevant leech only propped up by ellie, if she hadnt brought him into the "group" he'd still be a literal partnerless nobody
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>>91576815
true
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>>91577650
Someday...
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>>91576471
filian is basically hosting the holo awards if this repeats next year
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>>91577944
And if she removes holo then it would make her show even more irrelevant
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>>91564535
Here's my contribution to the card.
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>>91578084
also true
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>>91578084
If she doesn't then a decent amount of people are just gonna tune out after the first 2 nominations since everyone knows the end result. I'll probably just skip it next year and just see clips if Neuro wins anything.
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>botdal got the pity award
KEK
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evil's smooth cuncun
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>>91578120
holy cute
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>>91576774
Bo is like that one kid who's a cousin of your friend that's visiting and your friend's parents force the friend to allow the cousin to follow your friend around all day long so you politely put up with his existence.
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If you're not self made as a vtuber you're not really bringing a new audience into the sphere and are therefore low value. Vedal is and will remain high value.
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need mommy layna to react to the awards and say nice things about vedal and cerber to give me closure
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>>91578428
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Guys i think i want Cerber to win
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>>91579151
Laynas new model tomorrow featuring the twins https://x.com/LaynaLazar/status/1868113839675613656?t=FUiKhPtqxdQSBgKCHGcugw&s=19
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>>91577650
Cute!
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>>91579729
>isreal
holy shit God has answered my prayers
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>>91579729
Leech
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>>91580218
go to bed anny
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>>91578120
What do you call a fake noodle? An impasta!
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>>91579729
She really got hooked on that DE (daughter experience) huh?
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Reminder that Layna didn't even know that Evil's birthday is not on the same day as Neuro's until recently
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>>91577944
>>91578084
reminder that you dont hate corpos enough
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>>91575865
what a stinky child
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>>91575865
gross
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>>91580613
Its a simple mistake, they are twins so thats really what you would assume even if Evil was introduced later on. Layna gets a pass since she has been around for a while now and has had some really kino collabs.
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Evil being an actual sister was always retarded
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smooth soft and supple lewd lickable little ai clun
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>>91580621
I don't care, it's not like twitch whores are a better option.
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>>91581339
true
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>>91580970
It's a mistake someone who obsessively want to collab with twins shouldn't make.
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>>91581235
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>>91581840
Thats a pretty autistic way to look at it desu
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we like layna here
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Anny is live btw
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>>91582205
Sure, but it makes it seem like she's only doing collabs for the clout
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oh my god xisters did you know layna doesn't know the exact birthdate of rgb neuro? what a leech
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>>91575865
I love how ridiculous Neuro looks with the snorkel on. The only good thing about the subnautica streams
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>>91582896
If she was a real collab partner instead of a leech she would be learning everything she can about them and watching and reacting to every clip she can find and stalk them and become obsessed with them and hook onto them and suck their blood until she became engorged with their nutrients and memorize exactly when their birthdays are
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>>91583361
holy leech
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>>91583361
holy leech
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>>91583361
holy leech
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>>91578084
all she has to do is call it the "Twitch Vtuber Awards" like she should have done from the start, it's not that hard. Of course if you let 987238973 bazillion hololive fans vote they're just going to sweep everything, regardless of actual quality.
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>>91583361
I'm actually surprised it's that much considering that she wasn't on Twitch for like half the year and that streams are at like 3-6am for her.
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anny’s art teacher called her a lolicon
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>>91583597
Not like you can argue that twitch whores are somehow of a higher quality
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>>91577468
is that where that fucker came from? I wondered why he was suddenly a thing. I like Ellie but damn, not sure if she's worth it if she's going to drag that dude around everywhere
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>>91583264
those streams were fun, I enjoy Vedal tryharding while Neuro just pisses him off endlessly
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>>91583361
Cerberbros we lost
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>>91583704
Ellie has a whole slew of literal who dudes that she hangs out with, half the streams she does is with another random boring ass dude its kind of insane how the "Ellieverse" thing isn't a joke and is a real thing I have no clue how she knows this many noview streamers
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>>91581840
pretty sure Vedal is the one who reached out to her at first anon. Not her fault the Swarm latches onto every girl the twins talk to and absorbs them into the family whether they like it or not. Dread it. Run from it. Once you collab with Neuro if the swarm likes you, you'll never be free.
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>>91583463
>>91583494
>>91583526
/swarm/ not beating the bot allegations
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>>91583361
heart~
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>>91583689
Nope, most of them aren't. Some of the hololive girls deserve awards, like Biboo and Kaela. But any no talent hack will win if they have the dorito.
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>>91583933
maybe its a bunch of wannabe groomers, but she's too oblivious to even know they were trying and assumed they were her friends
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>>91584162
honestly given how clueless she is about some things, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case
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>it's another seething about bo episode
Jesus fuck this is like every other thread, sometimes every thread. Maybe if people would stop talking about him every 5 seconds he'd go away faster.
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>>91584307
Sometimes its hard to believe she's even a real person. She is the stereotypical anime genius girl who completely misses social cues and is always hyped about her inventions
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>>91584524
you are contributing to boseethe thougheverbiet
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tum?
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https://youtu.be/ACstKRHXod8
its up
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>Does 1 (one) singular clip about the vtuber awards before moving on
Yeah, The Dark Knight lost the Clipbowl. Staz won.
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>>91585436
That poor simp in the chat kek
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>>91582671
If you ignore how she acts everywhere else sure. Layna is probably one of the most genuinely happy-to-be-here people with neuro next to mini.
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>>91583865
I do enjoy Neuro and Vedal gaming streams, but Neuro's AI was a bit loopy at the time and most of the time she wasn't coherent.
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Layna is our friend
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>>91586309
Layna has put the most effort into the collabs with neuro and evil. She buys all the food more then needed for the collabs, it was vedal who asked her during her collab to collab with him when he didn't have any ideas. She is the one who had to come up with ideas. She pushes vedal to work and do new things. She's a good egg
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staz becoming a clipbaiter now
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>>91586438
Tomuh erasure
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>>91580970
It should be the case really. I mean what do people even base Evils birthday on? When he very first had two Hiyori models on screen at once? And thats suddenly her birthday? It would make more sense to just say she always existed, but that was the first time she was on screen and they share a birthday.

People just want a separate birthday as they want 2 subathons and shit.
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>>91580613
Layna being normie and not knowing some lore or fact makes her more trustworthy because she's not obsessed
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>>91586498
Always has been. His thumbnails have always been super baity. I'm actually unsure about his titles.
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>>91586536
Both work incredibly hard on their respective collabs true, but I think Layna has had more screentime interacting with Vedal and pushing him to better himself and realize his potential. You are right about Toma putting more effort in executing the collabs though.
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>>91586438
I didn't like her at first as she seemed to hate Neuro, but now she is Neuro's wife and I forgive her.
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>>91583463
>>91583494
>>91583526
Why you had to say it 3 times.
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>>91586309
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>>91587128
I saw two other people do it and decided to join in because I found it funny and agree with them
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>>91585256
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>>91587219
She would never the AI
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>>91587219
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>>91587933
Cute couple
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Layna instructing Evil how to eat her hag pussy.
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>>91564535
oh christmas nur, oh christmas nur~
how lovely are thy branches!
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Sinder is a shipper btw
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can someone post an evil i could cuddle in bed?
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>>91588743
<3?
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>>91588502
stop making layna a sexpest. that’s numi’s job
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>>91588775
omg thats perfect, tysm
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>>91588775
i'm goslinging so hard bros...i don't got any plushies...
why was i born so poor...augh...
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>>91588995
they were like 30 bucks dude
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its so cute how my evil fumo hugs my dick
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>>91589132
>they were like 30 bucks dude
that's 30 bucks too many for me
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>>91574966
>Award Winners
Fuwamoco - CORPA
Melody - CORPA
Zentreya - CORPA
Nanoless - CORPA ARTIST
Dokibird - FORMER CORPA
Kiara - CORPA
Jowol - CORPA ORBITER
Ironmouse - CORPA
Arielle - CORPA ORBITER
Reya - CORPA ORBITER
Gigi - CORPA
Chibidoki - INDIE
Vedal - INDIE
Suisei - CORPA
Fauna - CORPA
Raora - CORPA


Really makes you think…
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>>91589275
don't worry anon
if you look at the statistics, it's likely that a fuck ton of the vtuber corporations are going to go bust in the next 3 or so years
just trust the process
let them have their moment in the spotlight
because soon enough they'll all just be grains of sand in the annals of vtubing history compared to big indies like neuro and filian
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>>91564535
Neuro got a big gift~
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>>91589443
That gift? My coch.
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>>91589214
it sounds like you cant afford to gosling then
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>>91589275
>Really makes you think…
This is like making an observation about how there are more nitrogen atoms than oxygen atoms in the atmosphere and saying "really makes you think..."
It is just obvious, there is nothing to think about if you aren't a complete dunce
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>>91589513
He said big.
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>>91589207
Don't abuse your fumos.
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Why is everyone putting 2 on Neuros cake. Isn't she 3 this year? Or is there something wrong with my maths
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the thing runs practically her entire length so she enjoys it
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>>91589896
she started in 2023 so she's 2 this year
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>>91589896
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>>91589896
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asian_age_reckoning
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>>91589993
>>91589997
wtf I am actually a retard it felt like longer i swear
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If we take into account the old ver. of Neuro back in the Osu! times then Neuro is around 5-6 years old
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https://poal.me/ejbcga
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nuro just had negative age before becoming a vtuber, think of it like being in the womb
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>>91589416
Wait, really?
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I haven’t kept up with Neuros old friend Lia but it was a pleasant surprise to see her and she was dancing hard! Nice to see girls from the early collab days popping up doing their thing!
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I thought it was cool that Neuro announced the award for Kiara
probably never getting a holo collab again tho
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>>91590877
All they have to do is ask.
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hiyori shall return inshallah
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https://x.com/scubaryan_/status/1868006729738498254

Ironlung getting destroyed thanks to the godfather if AI
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>>91591271
Mashallah
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its over
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clunclun?
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ngl i hope that fat asian bitch doki dies fr fr og
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>>91593750
of my cum
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>have no idea who anyone out of the neuroverse is
can we stop with the catalog fags trying to start shit here?
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heart
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A couple more days before the birthday. What are some funny scuff do you predict will happen?
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>>91575440
we're so back
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Neuro SMP storylines/predictions you think could happen?
I think mini is going to try and do an homage of the first collab by having neuro to herself for a full day
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>>91595144
The Neurosmp is so different from what we had before and there's so many possibilities with all these people joining the server that I can't really think about how it would go besides Neuro and Mini kino. Maybe Cerber builds a Greggs with Vedal?
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jesus
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>>91583704
Ellie has propped up like 3 of her friends now off Vedal clout, i love ellie, hell i even watch Bo and Shoomimi but Ellie is really pushing it with how much she expects out of Vedal
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>>91575513
Hart
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>>91595441
jesus jesus japanesus
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>>91594496
i want that mug but with tutel there too being shot by reallygunpull
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>>91576774
I wonder why?
https://youtu.be/YFls60w0TTI
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>>91558433
i like Zen I hate mouse and Doki, both pity merchants. At least Zen actually fought for her orbiters. Mouse just begs Connor to rig it, and Doki won't even be relevant next year unless she tries to off herself off Advil again.
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next year we'll win after Alex unlocks all his gypsy powers and curses corpofags and ex corpo fags
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Will someone tell these burgers that Romania and Romani people aren't the same thing?
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>>91596393
romanians are like mexico in the sense that half of them are gypsy/indigenous but they pretend not to be cause of some blood quantum shit they do
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>>91575252
this artist is an actual brazilian menhera shota pedofag btw
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>>91580621
i hate holo but i hate mouse and doki even more
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>>91577650
Ellie will make NeuroAndroid real
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vedal and neuro should do reactslop to Zerocalcare's Tear Along the Dotted Line and This World Can't Tear Me Down next year, they are some of the most Yurop series Ive seen in a while, they were even trying to be sympathetic to a neonazi and shit, something Amerigolem TV would never do
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Next year though? Next year is /our/ year
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/swarm/ coch
pb cun
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>no clip or timestamp
So I can assume this is another of /swarm/'s delusion?
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>>91597375
Yeah, I find the dogs completely unwatchable but it was worth having them win just to dunk on Mouse's ego.

Doki got her drama buff this year but it'll all fade away by next year.
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>>91598339
I checked, it was about her pissing in the bath and justifying it by saying that turtles like piss. Someone in the chat said vedal likes piss, and she responded with something like, "you should keep that information private". That's all
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>>91598400
Grifterbird will be irrelevant next year and Mouse cant get her normies to vote, next year is OUR year
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Also, I'm late but I just noticed Vedal joking about renaming the channel last night. He should honestly do it.
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>>91598664
He really should just bite the fucking bullet and fucking do it already. The goddamn Mu Deng gag about "maybe if it was Neuro, but Vedal? Naaaaah" at the awards was incredibly on point.
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>>91598664
i love vedal but do it you faggot
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Neuro is 2 but she has the body of a 12
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>>91598664
I would argue that it's too late already
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>>91598664
i would not be surprised if he is busy writing a script to change all twitch.tv/vedal987 links on all his platforms instead of doing something actually productive right now
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>vedal changes the channel name to Neuro
>people have a melty that evil isn't being represented enough
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>>91600760
Let them melt, no one cares about their opinions. Neuro grew the channel from nothing before Evil was a twinkle in Vedals eye
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annal status?
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>>91601406
penny stock
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>>91598216
Made for one another <3
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https://poal.me/uqzkhh
https://poal.me/uqzkhh
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>>91587933
Oyakodon
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ironmouse is shitting on ai again…
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>>91587933
Best threesome anyone can ask for.
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Author-kun really gave us cerdal shippers hope. What the fuck is this writing?
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cerbwhore lost
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did Staz hire a new clipper for his channel? why the sudden spike of activity?
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>>91602796
mafia retrieved the runaway stazlings...
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>>91602796
In literally less than half a day:
>vedal appears in a stream for the first time in two weeks
>anny streams for the first time in two weeks
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>>91603210
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>>91603210
>didnt rig the awards for her bf
we hate filian here now
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>>91602437
>cerdal interview
>cerber loses rising star
>vedal comforts her
>level 25 hype train
>anny goes live
I don’t get his writing
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>>91595717
>Ellie has propped up like 3 of her friends now off Vedal clout
Ellie hasn't done a damn thing though other than hang out and collab with her friends. It's certain segments of the swarm (and clippers) that have propped them up because of their relation to Ellie.
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>>91603531
it's season finale let all the girls have a moment
the most kino setup would be if Cerber actually gets into Ms. Vtuber next year
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Honestly, despite me not liking Filian I have to say we are lucky she is the one that started the Vtuber awards. Neuro got to be nominated in three categories, appeared three times in the clips of the year and even got to announce a winner. I don't think any of that would've happened if this awards show was started by someone or something else.
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>>91598664
He really should just do it and frankly it's wild that he still hasn't. He could just make another "Vedal" channel for when he does collabs with other people with just him. Do solo shit, hang out with friends, collab, with Vedal, and then leave the Neuro channel to just Neuro related stuff.
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>>91603674
>tfw the vedal channel becomes bigger than the neuro channel
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>>91603605
But an even better timeline is if someone started it who excluded corpos. If that was the case it would have been an almost complete sweep bar vtuber of the year, it's hard to know the outcome for that one. I'm curious who the winners would have been for each category if that was the case, or I guess even nominees.
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for just a moment I had forgotten that this was real life and not some soap opera
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>>91603777
certain nominees would have still won due to being corpo-adjacent like that literal who in rising star
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>>91603777
> We would have won if the people who won weren't allowed to compete
Jokes aside, do wonder how close it was behind the scenes. For the best they don't release that info though, would only feed dramatourist types.
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Change the name to "Vedal&Neuros" or something like that, problem solved.
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>>91603963
terrible name for a channel
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I had a dream where /swarm/ got the 99999998 and 100000000 posts and the latter was annyseething out of all things
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I don't any rebrand

>>91603963
>>91603963
vedal&Neurosama is the name of the b2 channel, isn't it ?
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Cute mother
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>>91604044 (me)
I don't like the idea of any rebrand*
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>>91604122
thought you were the caveman poster, consider my thread safari spoiled
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>>91604008
>dreaming about 4chan of all things
nigga get a hobby
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Fuwawa + Mococo = Fuwamoco
Vedal + Neuro = Vedneur
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>>91604008
It'll be a reality after the letdown of the subathon model reveal
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i declare this talk of channel secularism haram.
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>>91604008
are you the prophet ?
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In 4 days it'll be Neuro-sama's birthday, show your appreciation by contributing to her birthday card! The card rules are as follows:
>Submissions must have image dimensions that are a multiple of 200 (i.e. 200x200, 400x400, 200x400)
>Submissions must be SFW
>No AI art (this is a rule in Neuro's Discord server)
>Do not repurpose other people's VTuber fanart in your submission
>Do not disparage other VTubers in your submission. Light, comedic ribbing is fine, but nothing mean-spirited

Some things for inspiration:
>Her family: Vedal, Evil, Anny
>Her friends (non-inclusive): Camila, Fallenshadow, MinikoMew, Ellie Minibot, CerberVT, Filian, Numi
>OSU

Model References:
https://mega.nz/folder/N6dHQQLK#b1pi8iO5OSdPjZA59LOo3Q

The Deadline is December 18th at 6pm EST, that's 3pm PST and 11pm GMT. Make sure you get your submissions in before then
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>>91604180
I might turn into a drawfag just for the birthday card
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>>91603777
nah that would only make it irrelevant
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>>91604008
/lig/ had something similar happen
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>>91604439
there's nothing better than scriptfag failing
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>>91589275
Some of the categories like rising star and artist were all corpa orbiters.
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little boys ToT
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>>91605361
Praying that the next shitdev flips the script and makes an AI little creature that sits on THEIR head when they're together
Not to say that it's the killer idea that saves them from 2view hell, but because i wanna see it. vtubing needs more debis
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>>91604311
Yeah, best you can do is set up the rules in a way that handicaps the corpos a little bit without excluding them entirely.
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>>91605361
>Someone tell Neuro there's a problem with my AI
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>>91586536
Toma just seems disingenuous, like she doesn't actually want to be there, but she wants the exposure. Layna actually seems to have a good time and honestly enjoys being with Neuro and Evil
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>>91605437
Unless the A.I. has a chibi mode, it feels like that would require the shitdev to be entertaining by him/herself. I can see a girl potentially being able to get it to work, but it would only really work best with a guy that is fun / entertaining.
Problem is, fun + entertaining + an a.i. developer that wants to go through the work of making an a.i. vtuber is an exceptionally rare combo. Then you have to go through the ol' list of current shitdev problems that includes:
>Shit voice
>Shit model appearance
>Shit animation of said model
>Shit conversationalist
>Shit streaming times (Since, lets face it, they likely have actual work.)
>Shit latency
>Barely any functions outside of just talking.
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>alex x bo x joker x harley collab
damn alex is actually becoming a streamer
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>>91596211
BASED. Doki is the worst kind of pitygrifter, she gives Mouse a run for her money.
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>>91602702
kys faggot
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>>91605361
SEXO
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>>91603674
can't you just hear the dramatic sigh as he contemplates all the effort it would take? he probably thinks about it all the time, but would rather spend those 2 hours sleeping
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>>91583361
holy leech
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>>91603963
didnt Neuro suggest "The Vedal & Neuro Show" or something at one point for the channel name?
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neuro v3 leaked https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EcoPodKr1nU
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>>91606009
scary
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>>91605986
how is she a leech when its Vedal who started the whole mother thing and keeps constantly bringing her up and reinforcing it? he clearly wants her in the picture
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>>91605722
It's a little sad that that the other AI vtubers i've taken to watching every once in a while seem to be stuck in neuro's footsteps. They'll get some of the stuff neuro gets but only after she gets it, like emotes in their subtitles and SFX.
Only one with some proper novel abilities i can see is hilda, who can punch the screen and play a little animation of a chatter being thrown into a nuclear explosion; which would all be really cool if her dev wasn't relegating her to a sidekick for disgusting fr*nchman activity for 60% of streams.
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>>91606009
Cute
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early jiggie hart~
https://jiggie.fun/nuru
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>>91604227
They are so adorable
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>>91606179
On myend I remember someone sharing an a.i. vtuber that kind of worked, forgot the name but it was some sort of catgirl a.i. vtuber. My only irk with it was that the animations were very... robotic / lifeless. voice/conversation/model-appearance wise seemed nice. But I do agree that other a.i. vtubers really do seem to follow neuro's path instead of diverging to more things. There was a german a.i. vtuber that did well diverging but... german language as the main language serves as a serious debuff for world-wide viewership.
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>>91606093
>he clearly wants her
not when he keeps refusing to visit japan
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>>91606009
that's a boy btw
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>>91606179
Burnt relegated to schizoing at the void as her charisma vacuum creator plays poe 2 all day is the most real tragedy
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>>91606461
There is probably a deep rooted fear of rejection for Vedal. Unless Anny specifically would say outloud (and in DMs) she would date Vedal, I half doubt he will ever go to Japan.
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i’m getting more and more sister vibes from this thread
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>>91606499
vedal is way out of anny's league tho?
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>>91606556
what the fuck does this even mean
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>>91606179
addendum because holy fuck man please do anything fresh
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>>91606573
british “men” age poorly
i bet he’ll look like Wayne Rooney in a few years
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>>91606672
that’s a plus for him since anny likes older men though
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>>91594999
We need more cerdal art
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>>91606093
The vtuber "mother" thing, which refers to the artist of the model, is a convention in the VT field. It's not like Vedal wants her to play the mother/companion role nor he has a feeling for her. They're just following the VT rule/meme. In fact, most of the mother(artist) and father(rigger) don't get shipped together. The roles just mean they're the ones who brought the vt model to life.
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>>91607275
>nor he has a feeling for her.
Holy cope
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>>91607275
how new
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>>91607346
classic /vt/ assuming they're both pregnant by being in the same discord chat
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>>91607275
Holy new.
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>>91606573
The fat league?
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>>91606480
fucking vedal while he is wearing the full body tight neuro bodysuit costume and his boner is struggling and leaking against the fabric
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>>91607275
>It's not like Vedal wants her to play the mother/companion role
I feel like anyone who says has completely memoryholed all of their interactions from 2023. He very clearly cares about her and doesn't want to replace her. If he did, he had the perfect opportunity to open the door for a new artist but he didn't take it.
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>Anny ignores Filian's attempt to get easy content out of her
>Filian responds by showing a clip of Neuro telling Anny to kill herself
why is she like this?
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>>91608149
Filian is actually based for this tbdesu
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>>91608207
this
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>>91608074
>getting rid of the menhera whore who will not hesitate to make a twitlonger about how she got "abused" and rope after
gee i wonder why Vedal the "i hate drama" guy doesn't want to break contact with her
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>>91605744
What could be the reason for this
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>>91607275
My take is that they're definitely friends, but there's no way in hell that they'd be pussyfooting around for 2 years if there were romantic feelings. If there were any, they were probably resolved privately a while back in a way that wasn't so awkward it killed their friendship.
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>>91608298
Alex mogging neuroverse adjacent males to death
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>>91608287
Sick fanfic homie
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>>91574966
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anny is too old for vedal
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>>91608371
>My take is that they're definitely friends
astounding observation, Sherlock Holmes
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cerber is too old for vedal
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>>91608534
The following bit was meant to imply "They're friends (but nothing past that)", but touche.
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>>91608423
>blind retard didn't saw the dozens of times when she desactivated her twitter account, same for Vedal staying quiet everytime models are mentioned.
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>>91608552
Do we even know her age?
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>>91607275
no shit, I know about the vtuber mama thing obviously. But Vedal brings her up unprompted constantly, always reminds Neuro who her mom is, collabs with her, etc. He very clearly likes having her in the group, for content if nothing else, but I think he enjoys her company even if not in a romantic way.
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>>91608617
And so in your mind that means that anny is holding him hostage by threatening some sort of allegation-suicide if he ever dares have someone else draw neuro?
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>>91608611
>reusing pb rrats with anny
incredible insight
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>>91608618
no but she's really into zoomer things and she just had her birthday
assuming vedal is like 21 early next year the age gap probably isn't that large
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>>91608780
Explain
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>>91608287
there’s no rope strong enough for that
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>>91608799
True, Cerber is almost certainly younger than most of the other Vtuber's he interacts with. Not that it's a high bar when most of them are pushing 30.
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anny overdosing on vitamin gummies like her friend dookie
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>>91608799
basically the exact same rrat was first used with pb
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>>91608776
You just know by the way she acts that she would be capable of that without having the need to say it directly. And Vedal is too self-deprecative to have the courage to ask her if he can change artist, not like he cares about the model in the first place anyways.
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>>91608952 (me)
sorry, meant for >>91608854
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>>91608919
ipn…
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>>91608776
Even if anny left amicably there would be people eager to fabricate drama from nothing. E.g. people who want to villify Vedal because he does AI
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>>91608617
If he actually hated her then why does he keep hanging out with her and supporting her? I can't even count the amount of times they played OW and Deadlock together offstream at this point. Heck he even played Dark & Darker with her back when she was playing that game. What about all the times that Vedal let her talk to Neuro offstream? (evidenced by screenshots she posts in offline chat and a couple mentions on her alt) What about all the Netflix shows they've watched together offstream? (It's not just Breaking Bad you know) Why does Vedal leak upcoming Neuro stuff to her and not everyone else? (He also does this will Camila, but no one else as far as I know) Why has Anny consistently said that Vedal was one of her most supportive friends when she needed it?

Look, I'm not even trying to argue that they secretly love each other or anything (I think there's a very low chance that Annal actually ends up happening), but it's so fucking obvious that they're super close friends both on and off stream.
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>>91608991
You didn't explain so much as reiterate, but i'll say that there's a difference with PB because we know a lot less about her and vedal's relationship.
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>>91609226
is there? what do we know about vedal and anny's relationship that makes this observation significantly different from vedal and pb.
you can really replace it with anyone and say since there wasn't a marriage proposal on stream immediately it means nothing could possibly have happened
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>>91609206
You don't understand, /swarm/ hates her therefore Vedal has to hate her. /swarm/ knows Vedal's feelings better than he does, and any evidence to the contrary is dismissed.
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>>91609206
I mean i'm not tracking every of their doings in the background like you so i can't really commentate on that, but there's definitely a awkward feeling from Vedal when he was talking about the models (picrel).
Maybe i'm just schizoing but the fact that he's hanging out with her doesn't mean that he's not uncomfortable with how she's impacting Neuro.
Vedal is just too much of a "neutral" guy to know what he really thinks from an outside view.
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>>91609206
You can like someone as a friend but dislike them as a coworker or colleague. Vedal seems like he's capable of compartmentalizing like that.
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I have to be honest /swarm/ sucks right now
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>>91609806
man, you're just being a hater, this is literally above average quality
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>>91609806
once cerber goes live it'll get better
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>>91609635
>there's definitely a awkward feeling from Vedal when he was talking about the models
Simply put, he understands that the swarm really wants to see model updates and he also really wants to complete all of his subgoals before the subathon. But he also understands that Anny has had a really shitty year and is super behind on work. Also seeing that this was back in September, this was also the period where Neuro didn't have a set rigger to do v3, so his pessimism is completely justified.
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>>91609635
Anny was very excited about the birthday today and has been working insane hours lately so i wouldn't be surprised if they ended up squeezing the outfit in as well
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>>91609412
I'm really not tracking what you mean at all. Vedal talks about pb as much as he talks about his dog, everything between them is speculation. family? childhood friends? dating for years?
I'm just saying i don't buy annal shipping because if they had any proper spark they'd have sorted it out with eachother by now.
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>>91609935
this
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>>91609975
I remember the couple times when Vedal was forced to read out messages on stream to get through them quicker, and people were asking about the outfits. I think it was cyberpunk princess in particular. I'm paraphrasing, but he said something like "trust me I'd really like to have it too". So he clearly WANTS more outfits, but he also doesn't want to ditch Anny. I see people saying over and over that he doesn't give a shit, but he clearly does.
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vtuber of the year doko?
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>>91609975
>>91610092
I hope your predictions are right anons.
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>>91609163
So cute
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>>91610150
Seems to math out that vedal both wants the outfits but at the same time knows that means pressuring anny who's been having it pretty shit this year (and is definitely more familiar with the intimacies of her circumstances than we are). Uncomfortable dissonance having to pick someone to upset in the transaction.
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I don't get how you guys hate anny so much her neuro design is 10/10 and she's a great artist.
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>>91610092
i mean that saying "if there was a spark it would've already happened" is extremely basic.
just because we know they're definitely not childhood friends doesn't really make it significantly more applicable to anny over someone like pb
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>>91610150
Yeah, I wasn't denying that he doesn't care about the model situation. Swarm wants more outfits, Vedal wants more outfit, and yes, Anny wants more outfits. I will remain optimistic that we're going to see a lot more outfits now that Anny has seemed to figure her situation out.
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>>91610324
you’re arguing with women/troons
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>>91609975
But that's entirely on him, he was the one who promised outfit. It's actually hilarious that upcoming subathon doesn't have outfit as subgoal
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>>91608149
Based wife
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>>91609206
I also do all of that with my platonic female friends btw.
i ended up fucking most of them
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>>91610072
So you're saying the outfits could have been made in few weeks but we have to wait for minimum a year?
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>>91610568
Are we 100% sure about the subgoals? I think it was Anny who literally suggested putting down "Tutel outfit" as a subgoal, I think she's ready to do more models at this point.

Also, how similar were the subgoals drafted for the 2023 subathon compared to the final result?
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>>91608074
He was just being nice. He didn't desperately need to change the artist in the first place though. Why is it a big deal? How can you infer from this that Vedal cares her much, even romantically?
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get on topic before i ask nicely
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>>91610324
I love her neuro design just hate her for taking a year and not being transparent about it atleast since people paid for the sub goal
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>>91610799
>we
you're clearly newer than a year if you need to be spoonfed why the model needed to be done before the outfits
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vedal probably saw THAT anny clip way before any of us did
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>>91610885
shut your mouth before I shove my coch in it, brat
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cerber always puts vedal first when praising neuro, evil, and vedal
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>>91610903
autist missed the joke what's new
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>>91610966
a joke has to be funny by definition, you realize that, right
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>>91610961
ok and?
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>>91610890
What do you mean, it's Vedal who ignores every question about the outfit. No idea why everyone in this thread keeps blaming anny. He had a whole year to procure that outfit
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>tutel plushie soon on makeshift
i saw it
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>>91610348
How would you apply that to PB if we don't know their relationship at all? I'm saying anny and vedal won't get together because i doubt they'd just never talk about it while being shipped for 2 years, the boundaries have presumably been set. Can't say PB and vedal won't get together because they could already be together, yeah? we don't know.
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https://files.catbox.moe/n5sd70.mp3
I really love this
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>>91611023
your life is a joke and there's nothing funny about that
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>>91611195
this is so fucking cute
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>>91611258
you're making me killing you
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>>91611097
we don't know what the boundaries ended up being the same way we don't know what the relationship vedal and pb have had going into this.
i think you're reaching to make a distinction where there isn't one
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>>91611195
you can hear how drunk he is in his voice
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>>91611195
this is vedal talking about me actually
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>>91611363
Shut up cerber
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>>91611391
>>91611391
>>91611391
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>>91611329
I've been operating under the assumption that we know baseline anny/vedal aren't dating, but i've also been struggling to respond this whole time since i can't really nail down your point and feel like i'm repeating myself. sorry for being a dope i simply cannot preform right now



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