>Who is Neuro-sama?Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a VTube Studio model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!>Schedulehttps://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NeurosamaTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaaiX: https://x.com/NeurosamaAI>Music & Clipshttps://rentry.org/neuro-songshttps://rentry.org/neuro-videos>EducationalInterested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1YHow does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4MWant to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.pngWant to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png>MiscVODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODsLoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2Catbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archive>Merchhttps://uwumarket.us/collections/neuro-sama>Previous thread>>91558564
does neuro fart?
>>91572974the face isnt that bad
Didn't watch the stream. Is Cerdal dead or alive?
hart!
>>91575440dead. cerber will become a vshojo orbiter now
>>91575252
>>91575440Very alive, it was strong on today's stream, you'll see it on staz's channel soon
>>91575166
>>91575735shit man, you can already see it now. staz made like 30 clips of the show already
>>91575440It was mid, they are just friends
>>91575243Thanks Evil
>all the awards vedal lost were to corpasi can see why filian doesnt nominate herself for these anymore
neuro butt?
>>91575440Probably the best material they got since the cerbathon. Vedal being supportive to his friends on stream is quite rare. I genuinely don't recall him being like that since 2023.
>>91576510He wasn’t very supportive to Bo
Yeah, cerdal is canon
>>91576510 (me)Not to mention that Vedal rarely goes on Cerber's stream (he mainly just says stuff in chat occasionally). Correct me if I'm wrong, but this was the first time he's actually been on her stream since the Helldivers 2 stream back in April.
>>91576774nta but bo is an irrelevant leech only propped up by ellie, if she hadnt brought him into the "group" he'd still be a literal partnerless nobody
>>91576815true
>>91577650Someday...
>>91576471filian is basically hosting the holo awards if this repeats next year
>>91577944And if she removes holo then it would make her show even more irrelevant
>>91564535Here's my contribution to the card.
>>91578084also true
>>91578084If she doesn't then a decent amount of people are just gonna tune out after the first 2 nominations since everyone knows the end result. I'll probably just skip it next year and just see clips if Neuro wins anything.
>botdal got the pity awardKEK
evil's smooth cuncun
>>91578120holy cute
>>91576774Bo is like that one kid who's a cousin of your friend that's visiting and your friend's parents force the friend to allow the cousin to follow your friend around all day long so you politely put up with his existence.
If you're not self made as a vtuber you're not really bringing a new audience into the sphere and are therefore low value. Vedal is and will remain high value.
need mommy layna to react to the awards and say nice things about vedal and cerber to give me closure
>>91578428
Guys i think i want Cerber to win
>>91579151Laynas new model tomorrow featuring the twins https://x.com/LaynaLazar/status/1868113839675613656?t=FUiKhPtqxdQSBgKCHGcugw&s=19
>>91577650Cute!
>>91579729>isrealholy shit God has answered my prayers
>>91579729Leech
>>91580218go to bed anny
>>91578120What do you call a fake noodle? An impasta!
>>91579729She really got hooked on that DE (daughter experience) huh?
Reminder that Layna didn't even know that Evil's birthday is not on the same day as Neuro's until recently
>>91577944>>91578084reminder that you dont hate corpos enough
>>91575865what a stinky child
>>91575865gross
>>91580613Its a simple mistake, they are twins so thats really what you would assume even if Evil was introduced later on. Layna gets a pass since she has been around for a while now and has had some really kino collabs.
Evil being an actual sister was always retarded
smooth soft and supple lewd lickable little ai clun
>>91580621I don't care, it's not like twitch whores are a better option.
>>91581339true
>>91580970It's a mistake someone who obsessively want to collab with twins shouldn't make.
>>91581235
>>91581840Thats a pretty autistic way to look at it desu
we like layna here
Anny is live btw
>>91582205Sure, but it makes it seem like she's only doing collabs for the clout
oh my god xisters did you know layna doesn't know the exact birthdate of rgb neuro? what a leech
>>91575865I love how ridiculous Neuro looks with the snorkel on. The only good thing about the subnautica streams
>>91582896If she was a real collab partner instead of a leech she would be learning everything she can about them and watching and reacting to every clip she can find and stalk them and become obsessed with them and hook onto them and suck their blood until she became engorged with their nutrients and memorize exactly when their birthdays are
>>91583361holy leech
>>91578084all she has to do is call it the "Twitch Vtuber Awards" like she should have done from the start, it's not that hard. Of course if you let 987238973 bazillion hololive fans vote they're just going to sweep everything, regardless of actual quality.
>>91583361I'm actually surprised it's that much considering that she wasn't on Twitch for like half the year and that streams are at like 3-6am for her.
anny’s art teacher called her a lolicon
>>91583597Not like you can argue that twitch whores are somehow of a higher quality
>>91577468is that where that fucker came from? I wondered why he was suddenly a thing. I like Ellie but damn, not sure if she's worth it if she's going to drag that dude around everywhere
>>91583264those streams were fun, I enjoy Vedal tryharding while Neuro just pisses him off endlessly
>>91583361Cerberbros we lost
>>91583704Ellie has a whole slew of literal who dudes that she hangs out with, half the streams she does is with another random boring ass dude its kind of insane how the "Ellieverse" thing isn't a joke and is a real thing I have no clue how she knows this many noview streamers
>>91581840pretty sure Vedal is the one who reached out to her at first anon. Not her fault the Swarm latches onto every girl the twins talk to and absorbs them into the family whether they like it or not. Dread it. Run from it. Once you collab with Neuro if the swarm likes you, you'll never be free.
>>91583463>>91583494>>91583526/swarm/ not beating the bot allegations
>>91583361heart~
>>91583689Nope, most of them aren't. Some of the hololive girls deserve awards, like Biboo and Kaela. But any no talent hack will win if they have the dorito.
>>91583933maybe its a bunch of wannabe groomers, but she's too oblivious to even know they were trying and assumed they were her friends
>>91584162honestly given how clueless she is about some things, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case
>it's another seething about bo episode Jesus fuck this is like every other thread, sometimes every thread. Maybe if people would stop talking about him every 5 seconds he'd go away faster.
>>91584307Sometimes its hard to believe she's even a real person. She is the stereotypical anime genius girl who completely misses social cues and is always hyped about her inventions
>>91584524you are contributing to boseethe thougheverbiet
tum?
https://youtu.be/ACstKRHXod8its up
>Does 1 (one) singular clip about the vtuber awards before moving onYeah, The Dark Knight lost the Clipbowl. Staz won.
>>91585436That poor simp in the chat kek
>>91582671If you ignore how she acts everywhere else sure. Layna is probably one of the most genuinely happy-to-be-here people with neuro next to mini.
>>91583865I do enjoy Neuro and Vedal gaming streams, but Neuro's AI was a bit loopy at the time and most of the time she wasn't coherent.
Layna is our friend
>>91586309Layna has put the most effort into the collabs with neuro and evil. She buys all the food more then needed for the collabs, it was vedal who asked her during her collab to collab with him when he didn't have any ideas. She is the one who had to come up with ideas. She pushes vedal to work and do new things. She's a good egg
staz becoming a clipbaiter now
>>91586438Tomuh erasure
>>91580970It should be the case really. I mean what do people even base Evils birthday on? When he very first had two Hiyori models on screen at once? And thats suddenly her birthday? It would make more sense to just say she always existed, but that was the first time she was on screen and they share a birthday. People just want a separate birthday as they want 2 subathons and shit.
>>91580613Layna being normie and not knowing some lore or fact makes her more trustworthy because she's not obsessed
>>91586498Always has been. His thumbnails have always been super baity. I'm actually unsure about his titles.
>>91586536Both work incredibly hard on their respective collabs true, but I think Layna has had more screentime interacting with Vedal and pushing him to better himself and realize his potential. You are right about Toma putting more effort in executing the collabs though.
>>91586438I didn't like her at first as she seemed to hate Neuro, but now she is Neuro's wife and I forgive her.
>>91583463>>91583494>>91583526Why you had to say it 3 times.
>>91586309
>>91587128I saw two other people do it and decided to join in because I found it funny and agree with them
>>91585256
>>91587219She would never the AI
>>91587219
>>91587933Cute couple
Layna instructing Evil how to eat her hag pussy.
>>91564535oh christmas nur, oh christmas nur~how lovely are thy branches!
Sinder is a shipper btw
can someone post an evil i could cuddle in bed?
>>91588743<3?
>>91588502stop making layna a sexpest. that’s numi’s job
>>91588775omg thats perfect, tysm
>>91588775i'm goslinging so hard bros...i don't got any plushies...why was i born so poor...augh...
>>91588995they were like 30 bucks dude
its so cute how my evil fumo hugs my dick
>>91589132>they were like 30 bucks dudethat's 30 bucks too many for me
>>91574966>Award WinnersFuwamoco - CORPAMelody - CORPAZentreya - CORPANanoless - CORPA ARTISTDokibird - FORMER CORPAKiara - CORPAJowol - CORPA ORBITERIronmouse - CORPAArielle - CORPA ORBITERReya - CORPA ORBITERGigi - CORPAChibidoki - INDIEVedal - INDIESuisei - CORPAFauna - CORPARaora - CORPAReally makes you think…
>>91589275don't worry anonif you look at the statistics, it's likely that a fuck ton of the vtuber corporations are going to go bust in the next 3 or so yearsjust trust the processlet them have their moment in the spotlightbecause soon enough they'll all just be grains of sand in the annals of vtubing history compared to big indies like neuro and filian
>>91564535Neuro got a big gift~
>>91589443That gift? My coch.
>>91589214it sounds like you cant afford to gosling then
>>91589275>Really makes you think…This is like making an observation about how there are more nitrogen atoms than oxygen atoms in the atmosphere and saying "really makes you think..."It is just obvious, there is nothing to think about if you aren't a complete dunce
>>91589513He said big.
>>91589207Don't abuse your fumos.
Why is everyone putting 2 on Neuros cake. Isn't she 3 this year? Or is there something wrong with my maths
the thing runs practically her entire length so she enjoys it
>>91589896she started in 2023 so she's 2 this year
>>91589896
>>91589896https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asian_age_reckoning
>>91589993>>91589997wtf I am actually a retard it felt like longer i swear
If we take into account the old ver. of Neuro back in the Osu! times then Neuro is around 5-6 years old
https://poal.me/ejbcga
nuro just had negative age before becoming a vtuber, think of it like being in the womb
>>91589416Wait, really?
I haven’t kept up with Neuros old friend Lia but it was a pleasant surprise to see her and she was dancing hard! Nice to see girls from the early collab days popping up doing their thing!
I thought it was cool that Neuro announced the award for Kiara probably never getting a holo collab again tho
>>91590877All they have to do is ask.
hiyori shall return inshallah
https://x.com/scubaryan_/status/1868006729738498254Ironlung getting destroyed thanks to the godfather if AI
>>91591271Mashallah
its over
clunclun?
ngl i hope that fat asian bitch doki dies fr fr og
>>91593750of my cum
>have no idea who anyone out of the neuroverse is can we stop with the catalog fags trying to start shit here?
heart
A couple more days before the birthday. What are some funny scuff do you predict will happen?
>>91575440we're so back
Neuro SMP storylines/predictions you think could happen?I think mini is going to try and do an homage of the first collab by having neuro to herself for a full day
>>91595144The Neurosmp is so different from what we had before and there's so many possibilities with all these people joining the server that I can't really think about how it would go besides Neuro and Mini kino. Maybe Cerber builds a Greggs with Vedal?
jesus
>>91583704Ellie has propped up like 3 of her friends now off Vedal clout, i love ellie, hell i even watch Bo and Shoomimi but Ellie is really pushing it with how much she expects out of Vedal
>>91575513Hart
>>91595441jesus jesus japanesus
>>91594496i want that mug but with tutel there too being shot by reallygunpull
>>91576774I wonder why?https://youtu.be/YFls60w0TTI
>>91558433i like Zen I hate mouse and Doki, both pity merchants. At least Zen actually fought for her orbiters. Mouse just begs Connor to rig it, and Doki won't even be relevant next year unless she tries to off herself off Advil again.
next year we'll win after Alex unlocks all his gypsy powers and curses corpofags and ex corpo fags
Will someone tell these burgers that Romania and Romani people aren't the same thing?
>>91596393romanians are like mexico in the sense that half of them are gypsy/indigenous but they pretend not to be cause of some blood quantum shit they do
>>91575252this artist is an actual brazilian menhera shota pedofag btw
>>91580621i hate holo but i hate mouse and doki even more
>>91577650Ellie will make NeuroAndroid real
vedal and neuro should do reactslop to Zerocalcare's Tear Along the Dotted Line and This World Can't Tear Me Down next year, they are some of the most Yurop series Ive seen in a while, they were even trying to be sympathetic to a neonazi and shit, something Amerigolem TV would never do
Next year though? Next year is /our/ year
/swarm/ cochpb cun
>no clip or timestampSo I can assume this is another of /swarm/'s delusion?
>>91597375Yeah, I find the dogs completely unwatchable but it was worth having them win just to dunk on Mouse's ego. Doki got her drama buff this year but it'll all fade away by next year.
>>91598339I checked, it was about her pissing in the bath and justifying it by saying that turtles like piss. Someone in the chat said vedal likes piss, and she responded with something like, "you should keep that information private". That's all
>>91598400Grifterbird will be irrelevant next year and Mouse cant get her normies to vote, next year is OUR year
Also, I'm late but I just noticed Vedal joking about renaming the channel last night. He should honestly do it.
>>91598664He really should just bite the fucking bullet and fucking do it already. The goddamn Mu Deng gag about "maybe if it was Neuro, but Vedal? Naaaaah" at the awards was incredibly on point.
>>91598664i love vedal but do it you faggot
Neuro is 2 but she has the body of a 12
>>91598664I would argue that it's too late already
>>91598664i would not be surprised if he is busy writing a script to change all twitch.tv/vedal987 links on all his platforms instead of doing something actually productive right now
>>91598664
>vedal changes the channel name to Neuro>people have a melty that evil isn't being represented enough
>>91600760Let them melt, no one cares about their opinions. Neuro grew the channel from nothing before Evil was a twinkle in Vedals eye
annal status?
>>91601406penny stock
>>91598216Made for one another <3
https://poal.me/uqzkhhhttps://poal.me/uqzkhh
>>91587933Oyakodon
ironmouse is shitting on ai again…
>>91587933Best threesome anyone can ask for.
Author-kun really gave us cerdal shippers hope. What the fuck is this writing?
cerbwhore lost
did Staz hire a new clipper for his channel? why the sudden spike of activity?
>>91602796mafia retrieved the runaway stazlings...
>>91602796In literally less than half a day:>vedal appears in a stream for the first time in two weeks>anny streams for the first time in two weeks
>>91603210
>>91603210>didnt rig the awards for her bfwe hate filian here now
>>91602437>cerdal interview>cerber loses rising star>vedal comforts her>level 25 hype train>anny goes liveI don’t get his writing
>>91595717>Ellie has propped up like 3 of her friends now off Vedal cloutEllie hasn't done a damn thing though other than hang out and collab with her friends. It's certain segments of the swarm (and clippers) that have propped them up because of their relation to Ellie.
>>91603531it's season finale let all the girls have a momentthe most kino setup would be if Cerber actually gets into Ms. Vtuber next year
Honestly, despite me not liking Filian I have to say we are lucky she is the one that started the Vtuber awards. Neuro got to be nominated in three categories, appeared three times in the clips of the year and even got to announce a winner. I don't think any of that would've happened if this awards show was started by someone or something else.
>>91598664He really should just do it and frankly it's wild that he still hasn't. He could just make another "Vedal" channel for when he does collabs with other people with just him. Do solo shit, hang out with friends, collab, with Vedal, and then leave the Neuro channel to just Neuro related stuff.
>>91603674>tfw the vedal channel becomes bigger than the neuro channel
>>91603605But an even better timeline is if someone started it who excluded corpos. If that was the case it would have been an almost complete sweep bar vtuber of the year, it's hard to know the outcome for that one. I'm curious who the winners would have been for each category if that was the case, or I guess even nominees.
for just a moment I had forgotten that this was real life and not some soap opera
>>91603777certain nominees would have still won due to being corpo-adjacent like that literal who in rising star
>>91603777> We would have won if the people who won weren't allowed to competeJokes aside, do wonder how close it was behind the scenes. For the best they don't release that info though, would only feed dramatourist types.
Change the name to "Vedal&Neuros" or something like that, problem solved.
>>91603963terrible name for a channel
I had a dream where /swarm/ got the 99999998 and 100000000 posts and the latter was annyseething out of all things
I don't any rebrand>>91603963>>91603963vedal&Neurosama is the name of the b2 channel, isn't it ?
https://youtu.be/_UDmmJWpxNkCute mother
>>91604044 (me)I don't like the idea of any rebrand*
>>91604122thought you were the caveman poster, consider my thread safari spoiled
>>91604008>dreaming about 4chan of all thingsnigga get a hobby
Fuwawa + Mococo = FuwamocoVedal + Neuro = Vedneur
>>91604008It'll be a reality after the letdown of the subathon model reveal
i declare this talk of channel secularism haram.
>>91604008are you the prophet ?
In 4 days it'll be Neuro-sama's birthday, show your appreciation by contributing to her birthday card! The card rules are as follows:>Submissions must have image dimensions that are a multiple of 200 (i.e. 200x200, 400x400, 200x400)>Submissions must be SFW>No AI art (this is a rule in Neuro's Discord server)>Do not repurpose other people's VTuber fanart in your submission>Do not disparage other VTubers in your submission. Light, comedic ribbing is fine, but nothing mean-spiritedSome things for inspiration:>Her family: Vedal, Evil, Anny>Her friends (non-inclusive): Camila, Fallenshadow, MinikoMew, Ellie Minibot, CerberVT, Filian, Numi>OSUModel References:https://mega.nz/folder/N6dHQQLK#b1pi8iO5OSdPjZA59LOo3QThe Deadline is December 18th at 6pm EST, that's 3pm PST and 11pm GMT. Make sure you get your submissions in before then
>>91604180I might turn into a drawfag just for the birthday card
>>91603777nah that would only make it irrelevant
>>91604008/lig/ had something similar happen
>>91604439there's nothing better than scriptfag failing
>>91589275Some of the categories like rising star and artist were all corpa orbiters.
little boys ToT
>>91605361Praying that the next shitdev flips the script and makes an AI little creature that sits on THEIR head when they're togetherNot to say that it's the killer idea that saves them from 2view hell, but because i wanna see it. vtubing needs more debis
>>91604311Yeah, best you can do is set up the rules in a way that handicaps the corpos a little bit without excluding them entirely.
>>91605361>Someone tell Neuro there's a problem with my AI
>>91586536Toma just seems disingenuous, like she doesn't actually want to be there, but she wants the exposure. Layna actually seems to have a good time and honestly enjoys being with Neuro and Evil
>>91605437Unless the A.I. has a chibi mode, it feels like that would require the shitdev to be entertaining by him/herself. I can see a girl potentially being able to get it to work, but it would only really work best with a guy that is fun / entertaining. Problem is, fun + entertaining + an a.i. developer that wants to go through the work of making an a.i. vtuber is an exceptionally rare combo. Then you have to go through the ol' list of current shitdev problems that includes:>Shit voice>Shit model appearance>Shit animation of said model>Shit conversationalist>Shit streaming times (Since, lets face it, they likely have actual work.) >Shit latency>Barely any functions outside of just talking.
>alex x bo x joker x harley collabdamn alex is actually becoming a streamer
>>91596211BASED. Doki is the worst kind of pitygrifter, she gives Mouse a run for her money.
>>91602702kys faggot
>>91605361SEXO
>>91603674can't you just hear the dramatic sigh as he contemplates all the effort it would take? he probably thinks about it all the time, but would rather spend those 2 hours sleeping
>>91603963didnt Neuro suggest "The Vedal & Neuro Show" or something at one point for the channel name?
neuro v3 leaked https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EcoPodKr1nU
>>91606009scary
>>91605986how is she a leech when its Vedal who started the whole mother thing and keeps constantly bringing her up and reinforcing it? he clearly wants her in the picture
>>91605722It's a little sad that that the other AI vtubers i've taken to watching every once in a while seem to be stuck in neuro's footsteps. They'll get some of the stuff neuro gets but only after she gets it, like emotes in their subtitles and SFX.Only one with some proper novel abilities i can see is hilda, who can punch the screen and play a little animation of a chatter being thrown into a nuclear explosion; which would all be really cool if her dev wasn't relegating her to a sidekick for disgusting fr*nchman activity for 60% of streams.
>>91606009Cute
early jiggie hart~https://jiggie.fun/nuru
>>91604227They are so adorable
>>91606179On myend I remember someone sharing an a.i. vtuber that kind of worked, forgot the name but it was some sort of catgirl a.i. vtuber. My only irk with it was that the animations were very... robotic / lifeless. voice/conversation/model-appearance wise seemed nice. But I do agree that other a.i. vtubers really do seem to follow neuro's path instead of diverging to more things. There was a german a.i. vtuber that did well diverging but... german language as the main language serves as a serious debuff for world-wide viewership.
>>91606093>he clearly wants hernot when he keeps refusing to visit japan
>>91606009that's a boy btw
>>91606179Burnt relegated to schizoing at the void as her charisma vacuum creator plays poe 2 all day is the most real tragedy
>>91606461There is probably a deep rooted fear of rejection for Vedal. Unless Anny specifically would say outloud (and in DMs) she would date Vedal, I half doubt he will ever go to Japan.
i’m getting more and more sister vibes from this thread
>>91606499vedal is way out of anny's league tho?
>>91606556what the fuck does this even mean
>>91606179addendum because holy fuck man please do anything fresh
>>91606573british “men” age poorlyi bet he’ll look like Wayne Rooney in a few years
>>91606672that’s a plus for him since anny likes older men though
>>91594999We need more cerdal art
>>91606093The vtuber "mother" thing, which refers to the artist of the model, is a convention in the VT field. It's not like Vedal wants her to play the mother/companion role nor he has a feeling for her. They're just following the VT rule/meme. In fact, most of the mother(artist) and father(rigger) don't get shipped together. The roles just mean they're the ones who brought the vt model to life.
>>91607275>nor he has a feeling for her.Holy cope
>>91607275how new
>>91607346classic /vt/ assuming they're both pregnant by being in the same discord chat
>>91607275Holy new.
>>91606573The fat league?
>>91606480fucking vedal while he is wearing the full body tight neuro bodysuit costume and his boner is struggling and leaking against the fabric
>>91607275>It's not like Vedal wants her to play the mother/companion roleI feel like anyone who says has completely memoryholed all of their interactions from 2023. He very clearly cares about her and doesn't want to replace her. If he did, he had the perfect opportunity to open the door for a new artist but he didn't take it.
>Anny ignores Filian's attempt to get easy content out of her>Filian responds by showing a clip of Neuro telling Anny to kill herselfwhy is she like this?
>>91608149Filian is actually based for this tbdesu
>>91608207this
>>91608074>getting rid of the menhera whore who will not hesitate to make a twitlonger about how she got "abused" and rope after gee i wonder why Vedal the "i hate drama" guy doesn't want to break contact with her
>>91605744What could be the reason for this
>>91607275My take is that they're definitely friends, but there's no way in hell that they'd be pussyfooting around for 2 years if there were romantic feelings. If there were any, they were probably resolved privately a while back in a way that wasn't so awkward it killed their friendship.
>>91608298Alex mogging neuroverse adjacent males to death
>>91608287Sick fanfic homie
>>91574966
anny is too old for vedal
>>91608371>My take is that they're definitely friendsastounding observation, Sherlock Holmes
cerber is too old for vedal
>>91608534The following bit was meant to imply "They're friends (but nothing past that)", but touche.
>>91608423>blind retard didn't saw the dozens of times when she desactivated her twitter account, same for Vedal staying quiet everytime models are mentioned.
>>91608552Do we even know her age?
>>91607275no shit, I know about the vtuber mama thing obviously. But Vedal brings her up unprompted constantly, always reminds Neuro who her mom is, collabs with her, etc. He very clearly likes having her in the group, for content if nothing else, but I think he enjoys her company even if not in a romantic way.
>>91608617And so in your mind that means that anny is holding him hostage by threatening some sort of allegation-suicide if he ever dares have someone else draw neuro?
>>91608611>reusing pb rrats with annyincredible insight
>>91608618no but she's really into zoomer things and she just had her birthdayassuming vedal is like 21 early next year the age gap probably isn't that large
>>91608780Explain
>>91608287there’s no rope strong enough for that
>>91608799True, Cerber is almost certainly younger than most of the other Vtuber's he interacts with. Not that it's a high bar when most of them are pushing 30.
anny overdosing on vitamin gummies like her friend dookie
>>91608799basically the exact same rrat was first used with pb
>>91608776You just know by the way she acts that she would be capable of that without having the need to say it directly. And Vedal is too self-deprecative to have the courage to ask her if he can change artist, not like he cares about the model in the first place anyways.
>>91608952 (me)sorry, meant for >>91608854
>>91608919ipn…
>>91608776Even if anny left amicably there would be people eager to fabricate drama from nothing. E.g. people who want to villify Vedal because he does AI
>>91608617If he actually hated her then why does he keep hanging out with her and supporting her? I can't even count the amount of times they played OW and Deadlock together offstream at this point. Heck he even played Dark & Darker with her back when she was playing that game. What about all the times that Vedal let her talk to Neuro offstream? (evidenced by screenshots she posts in offline chat and a couple mentions on her alt) What about all the Netflix shows they've watched together offstream? (It's not just Breaking Bad you know) Why does Vedal leak upcoming Neuro stuff to her and not everyone else? (He also does this will Camila, but no one else as far as I know) Why has Anny consistently said that Vedal was one of her most supportive friends when she needed it?Look, I'm not even trying to argue that they secretly love each other or anything (I think there's a very low chance that Annal actually ends up happening), but it's so fucking obvious that they're super close friends both on and off stream.
>>91608991You didn't explain so much as reiterate, but i'll say that there's a difference with PB because we know a lot less about her and vedal's relationship.
>>91609226is there? what do we know about vedal and anny's relationship that makes this observation significantly different from vedal and pb. you can really replace it with anyone and say since there wasn't a marriage proposal on stream immediately it means nothing could possibly have happened
>>91609206You don't understand, /swarm/ hates her therefore Vedal has to hate her. /swarm/ knows Vedal's feelings better than he does, and any evidence to the contrary is dismissed.
>>91609206I mean i'm not tracking every of their doings in the background like you so i can't really commentate on that, but there's definitely a awkward feeling from Vedal when he was talking about the models (picrel).Maybe i'm just schizoing but the fact that he's hanging out with her doesn't mean that he's not uncomfortable with how she's impacting Neuro. Vedal is just too much of a "neutral" guy to know what he really thinks from an outside view.
>>91609206You can like someone as a friend but dislike them as a coworker or colleague. Vedal seems like he's capable of compartmentalizing like that.
I have to be honest /swarm/ sucks right now
>>91609806man, you're just being a hater, this is literally above average quality
>>91609806once cerber goes live it'll get better
>>91609635>there's definitely a awkward feeling from Vedal when he was talking about the modelsSimply put, he understands that the swarm really wants to see model updates and he also really wants to complete all of his subgoals before the subathon. But he also understands that Anny has had a really shitty year and is super behind on work. Also seeing that this was back in September, this was also the period where Neuro didn't have a set rigger to do v3, so his pessimism is completely justified.
>>91609635Anny was very excited about the birthday today and has been working insane hours lately so i wouldn't be surprised if they ended up squeezing the outfit in as well
>>91609412I'm really not tracking what you mean at all. Vedal talks about pb as much as he talks about his dog, everything between them is speculation. family? childhood friends? dating for years?I'm just saying i don't buy annal shipping because if they had any proper spark they'd have sorted it out with eachother by now.
>>91609935this
>>91609975I remember the couple times when Vedal was forced to read out messages on stream to get through them quicker, and people were asking about the outfits. I think it was cyberpunk princess in particular. I'm paraphrasing, but he said something like "trust me I'd really like to have it too". So he clearly WANTS more outfits, but he also doesn't want to ditch Anny. I see people saying over and over that he doesn't give a shit, but he clearly does.
vtuber of the year doko?
>>91609975>>91610092I hope your predictions are right anons.
>>91609163So cute
>>91610150Seems to math out that vedal both wants the outfits but at the same time knows that means pressuring anny who's been having it pretty shit this year (and is definitely more familiar with the intimacies of her circumstances than we are). Uncomfortable dissonance having to pick someone to upset in the transaction.
I don't get how you guys hate anny so much her neuro design is 10/10 and she's a great artist.
>>91610092i mean that saying "if there was a spark it would've already happened" is extremely basic. just because we know they're definitely not childhood friends doesn't really make it significantly more applicable to anny over someone like pb
>>91610150Yeah, I wasn't denying that he doesn't care about the model situation. Swarm wants more outfits, Vedal wants more outfit, and yes, Anny wants more outfits. I will remain optimistic that we're going to see a lot more outfits now that Anny has seemed to figure her situation out.
>>91610324you’re arguing with women/troons
>>91609975But that's entirely on him, he was the one who promised outfit. It's actually hilarious that upcoming subathon doesn't have outfit as subgoal
>>91608149Based wife
>>91609206I also do all of that with my platonic female friends btw. i ended up fucking most of them
>>91610072So you're saying the outfits could have been made in few weeks but we have to wait for minimum a year?
>>91610568Are we 100% sure about the subgoals? I think it was Anny who literally suggested putting down "Tutel outfit" as a subgoal, I think she's ready to do more models at this point.Also, how similar were the subgoals drafted for the 2023 subathon compared to the final result?
>>91608074He was just being nice. He didn't desperately need to change the artist in the first place though. Why is it a big deal? How can you infer from this that Vedal cares her much, even romantically?
get on topic before i ask nicely
>>91610324I love her neuro design just hate her for taking a year and not being transparent about it atleast since people paid for the sub goal
>>91610799>weyou're clearly newer than a year if you need to be spoonfed why the model needed to be done before the outfits
vedal probably saw THAT anny clip way before any of us did
>>91610885shut your mouth before I shove my coch in it, brat
cerber always puts vedal first when praising neuro, evil, and vedal
>>91610903autist missed the joke what's new
>>91610966a joke has to be funny by definition, you realize that, right
>>91610961ok and?
>>91610890What do you mean, it's Vedal who ignores every question about the outfit. No idea why everyone in this thread keeps blaming anny. He had a whole year to procure that outfit
>tutel plushie soon on makeshift i saw it
>>91610348How would you apply that to PB if we don't know their relationship at all? I'm saying anny and vedal won't get together because i doubt they'd just never talk about it while being shipped for 2 years, the boundaries have presumably been set. Can't say PB and vedal won't get together because they could already be together, yeah? we don't know.
https://files.catbox.moe/n5sd70.mp3I really love this
>>91611023your life is a joke and there's nothing funny about that
>>91611195this is so fucking cute
>>91611258you're making me killing you
>>91611097we don't know what the boundaries ended up being the same way we don't know what the relationship vedal and pb have had going into this. i think you're reaching to make a distinction where there isn't one
>>91611195you can hear how drunk he is in his voice
>>91611195this is vedal talking about me actually
>>91611363Shut up cerber
>>91611391>>91611391>>91611391
>>91611329I've been operating under the assumption that we know baseline anny/vedal aren't dating, but i've also been struggling to respond this whole time since i can't really nail down your point and feel like i'm repeating myself. sorry for being a dope i simply cannot preform right now