Winner: Hololive

Had a good day: Dokibird, Indies, Vshojo

KWAB: Phase Connect, Nijisanji

HoloGODS status?

>>91586200
>Final tally
>Didn't tally the results for each category
Shamefuru dispray

>>91586200
>Phase Connect (-$50,000)
>Bought an ad
biggest losers lmaoooo

>>91586200
>Phase Connect (-$50,000)
>Bought an ad
kek

>>91586200
Holo needs to be excluded next year. They got the biggest # for voting awards

>>91587250
>no no my talentless irrelevant indie shitters only lost because holo is more popular!, They are talented or good at anything REEEEEEEE

>>91586200
nijisanji won, they atleast had an attending representative at the event unlike holo and maintains good relation with filian for future events.

>>91587404
>zero awards won

>>91587404
>attending representative at the event
Who?
>maintains good relation with filian
rumao

>>91587250
>most popular vtubing agency wins popularity contest

>>91587404
>Fuming to seethe with cope support.

>>91587404
>good relation with filian
Nigga sisters despise filian ever since the nendoroid fiasco and the "controversial comments" from her. They would rather kill themselves than watching any of her content

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>>91586200
Nothing against the girls themselves, but this HAS to sting for the shitflingers /here/

>>91586200
They didnt win any awards, but Phase's Lumi and Lia are on cloud 9. How many non holos can say they have performed their original songs in 3D to over 50,000 live viewers on twitch and youtube?

>>91587836
No, hololive deserves this award.

>>91588147
No, look a little below that.
That's the part that stings for them.

>>91587836
>>91588220
>hololive won the one award sponsored by Phase
Not beating the cuck allegations, kek

>>91586357
fpbp

>>91588220
lmao

so which vtuber award is the relevant one

>>91588921
This one, because Hololive won

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Hold up... you're telling me the biggest Vtuber company won the most awards?? No way

>Same people who were seething over Ironmouse being Vtuber of the year from zerg votes are now rejoicing over Hololive girls winning random awards from zerg votes
Do holodrones really?

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>>91587404
>>91587468
>attending representative at the event
>Who?
The one who won them an award last year along her colleague who won two awards this year again.
They couldn't attend the event in person, but it's good that their roommates got to attend to represent them.

>>91590469
kek
man, the bird really got done dirty.
Instead of the award she wanted (gamer of the year) she got put up against the goliaths, and the category that her event was in originally excluded concerts. I guess they didn't get enough entries so they just threw in breaking dimensions and called it a day.
She never had a chance. It's a miracle she won what she did, considering the FPS clip that was included had nothing to do with her FPS skills.

>>91590602
She wanted FPS and Gamer of the Year (the ones she won last time) so she got one of them.

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>>91590602
That and the second one about most dedicated fanbase was also absolutely deserved. Reason why the future is indie for Vtubers.
If she was in the nominees for gamer of the year, she'd also have been put against goliaths as well. I wish I knew more about the rest, but I'd have put my money on Kaela because of the sheer amount of grind.
Oh also sorry, I forgot one more attending representative of Niji at the event. They were there at the beginning of the event too, silly me.

>>91586357
fpbp

>>91586357
fpbp

>>91586200
Arielle won hers due to VShojo and Reya won hers due to Holo, so you can add them

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>>91587941
Mouse sang 2 originals, one that she debuted there, at the streamer awards in front of 204,000 live viewers.

>>91586200
Sounds accurate to the currently EN state. Holo as the giant, VShojo also there (they also overperformed in my opinion, but at least Ironmouse was subbed), and a lot of big to small indies.
Give the ASMR award to someone else, and the gamer one to biboo, and it's perfect.

>>91593139
>(they also overperformed in my opinion, but at least Ironmouse was subbed)
what does this mean?

>>91586200
>HoloGTA (Event)
lmao are you kidding me

>>91591620
i think swarm deserved fanbase and filian rigged it but whatever

>>91593257
>filian rigged it
nigga vedal literally won. Filian is a slobbering retard but you can't cry rigged everytimes something you want to win doesn't win.

>>91593172
I meant snubbed, because I can't stand how she became the awards and sleepothon vtuber.

>>91593379
vedal has 3 times dokis ccv do you really think she has a bigger fanbase that him

>>91593454
I mean, it's not like she didn't still win an award, anon. Ironically the same award fuwamoco won last year. They just swapped spots. Kind of funny really.

>>91593503
it wasn't about numbers. The award is listed as "Recognizing the passionate and unwavering fanbase who stands by their favorite Vtuber."

>>91593503
No, but it wasn't a "biggest fanbase" award. It was "most dedicated."
And after january, I don't think the swarm has done anything even close to what they did with #WhereIsSelen

>>91593580
>>91593584
still rigged, fuck you dookiefags, i hope she falls of next year and neuro never collabs with her

>>91586200
Reya counts as a Holowin

>>91593615
...Why?
How does Doki winning an award that Vedal didn't even care about affect you so strongly that you'd wish ill on her?

Surprised Mouse still gets as many votes as she does at the vtuber awards when she never even knows she's nominated for anything in it. She seems much more interested in getting vtubers more accepted mainstream in other shows like the streamer awards.

>>91593710
cause its pretty obvious it was gifted to her cause itd look good for the narrative of her being a poor bully victim, look swarm hates mouse for being a similarly "sick" pitybaiting victim, and doki is just the same. at least doki will only win shit this year though, next year she aint getting shit viewwise and awardwise

>>91593800
>more interested in getting vtubers more accepted mainstream in other shows like the streamer awards
you mean, getting herself more accepted lmao. she dont give a fuck about other vtubers not even zen

>>91593584
That's also why I'm not sure why Chumbuds won last year's award. What made them most dedicated? That they stayed chumbuds while their oshi didn't stream a lot?
Numbers seem to be the only reason they won, but numbers can only get you so far.

>>91593827
Are you the samefag that always pretends to be a zen fan?

I advise being kind to the sore losers, the shame they'll inevitably have to live with will take 15 years from their life.

>>91593875
are you the mousefags that always acts like zen eating shit because of overlord mouse is a good thing actually

>>91586357
fpbp

>>91593922
Your larp is terrible.

>>91594033
this but you mousefag

>>91593802
once again, how does this affect you?
Doki's fanbase gained notoriety not just from her own fans, but from everyone else who was around in January. It wasn't just the dragoons voting for her.

Had the swarm won, it would've felt a little bad, sure, but it's not like it'd make us hostile towards Vedal or even the swarm. In the end we don't really give a shit about the award itself as much as the chuubas we like knowing how much we appreciate their content.

Also I'm afraid to break it to you, but her pity buff wore off months ago. She's not going anywhere, and it's highly likely that Neuro and Vedal will be participating in future events run by her.

>>91594158
notoriety for dramafagging maybe, how is that good for vtubing? vedal uplifted like a dozen 2views to 3views this year, got Bo and Cerbed nominated, only for corpos and dramafaggots to win. Not that it matters, next year Vedal will keep supporting actual indies instead of numberfagging to the max or begging for drama to happen.

>>91594151
So you're saying I'm not a real "mousefag" ?
lol

>>91594217
I swear I see this guy in every thread about how some Indy or Vshojo won instead of Vedal. Niggas act like he's the most oppressed dude on the planet. He's in chains bro, suffering.

>>91594244
no you are the definition of mousefag, only care about mouse even if she takes away from zen and the rest

>>91594296
vedal was raped by his aunt in germany 10 years ago, thes the most suffering vtuber trust me

>>91594217
Anon, you're chasing windmills and I don't know exactly why you're so angry about this. There isn't even a physical trophy, unlike when Doki gave Vedal a high quality physical wrestling belt.
Vedal's plenty respected and getting a ton of recognition all throughout the world, and this award show won't even be a blip on his record.
Why are you getting so angry on his behalf?

The categories were rigged against Niji. They would have easily won:
>Leaker of the year
>Bully of the year

>>91593800
She might not care, but her fans are the exact target audience of this show

>>91594363
vedal is one of the few good people in vtubing between all the corpofags and ex corpofags that pretend like they care about indies but only use them as stepping stones, but like i said, this is doki's only year to shine, shy of any drama happening again she will be literally who next year while vedal and neuro only grow more and more

>>91594313
Alright ESL, please tell me how much of a real Zen fan you are. Do you even know about anything she did during her stream last night? Why not post your twitch recap showing who you watched.

>>91594459
Bro just buy an ad already. We see you make threads complaining every time he doesn't win something. We see you make threads about how big is numbers are compared to everyone else. You're right, he is a nice guy. Why don't you act more like him instead of a sperg.

>>91594459
> this is doki's only year to shine, shy of any drama happening again she will be literally who next year while vedal and neuro only grow more and more
anon I don't know how to tell you this, but prior to returning as Dokibird, Doki used the name Selen and was already shining quite brightly. She's only shone brighter since losing that name, and she definitely doesn't need drama to do good work for everybody.
Someone else doing well doesn't mean your oshi is doing badly. It's not a zero sum system. Both Vedal and Doki can survive in the same streaming environment.

>>91594703
You're arguing with an insane person. This guy goes at everyone who ever gets one over on Vedal and Neuro in his eyes. We've seen it in /vsj+/ plenty cause he's obsessed with mouse.

>>91594703
niji is shit brother in or out its the same

>>91587404
weak bait

i hope she runs out of flintstone gummies

>>91594703
>Dragoons win for clicking follow on a new account

hololive didn't even care abourt this, none of them recorded victory speech

>>91595310
I don't think it's allowed for them.

>>91586357
All of the above are winners simply by being nominated, mentioned, and having "a seat at the table"
Same goes for vallure and nene from kawaii(soon to be dissolved) because they were nominated.
The only losers are idol corp because they were mentioned last year but not for this one, and pixellink because they were expected to be doing ok but if no one is talking about them that is troubling.

>>91586200
I get that Hololive is popular, but Fauna's wins seem kinda bullshit since she did nothing to earn them. Seriously, how do you get nominated for/win Best ASMR when you only made 2 the entire year? Those rules need to be revised.

>>91595310
pls understand they had 1000 page document of perms to go through in order to appear live
fuwamoco did beg for votes btw

>>91594874
It's more that we won for forcing everybody to notice Selen was gone and making so much noise that Niji HAD to do something to stop us.

>>91586200
>>91586357
This is not the first time Phase wastes a bunch of money for good PR only to get cucked, last time it happened at Offkai.

Reya is basically Hololite with how much she works for them, she even thanked Hololive with her winning speech.
She's also a win for Dota2 fags since she's Sheepo and doesn't hide the fact

>>91593503
>Twitch numbers

>>91595657
Idol Corp literally stopped existing except as another of Braves 8 million shitters and Phase paid actual money

>>91595310
Unironically it's because the awards aren't professional enough given how mainstream hololive is in Japan now
They'll show up for the Geoff Keighley Awards because that has a huge budget and corporate backing so you know nobody's going to flash their tits or give an acceptance speech full of slurs within 10 seconds of a hololive talent being on screen

>>91597074
as much as I want to go "oh brave bad rawr" I really, really like how well they support the v4mirai girls with 3D and Dr. Nova in particular's 3D model is fucking gorgeous, almost never clips, and she can do a lot of fun streams with her home3D

>>91586200
>Mythos (Rising Org)
Fucking Mythos of all corpos won that one?

>>91597824
That one really is weird.
You'd think that would've been PixelLink or something. I thought they were doing well but I don't think they were brought up even once as a cameo.

>>91586357
Kek, Fishman probably heard the BF4 metal pipe sound irl when they ran out of nominations.
Niji... lol, lmao even.

>>91586200
Genuine question.
Did any of the Nijis truly deserve any of the awards but didn't get it?, I don't watch them so I can't tell if their corpo's abysmal reputation fucked them up regardless of what they did.

>>91586357
>Phase Connect (-$50,000)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>91586200
>Phase
man, tough luck, kek

>>91587250
Then tell your oshi to be better than Holo, cope and seethe! BAU BAU!

>>91597916
Kuzuha might've earned FPS vtuber over Doki. I hear he does a lot of stuff in FPS and is pretty entertaining doing it. He's also obscenely popular in Japan. Thankfully, his army of teenage girls had no idea this thing existed and stayed away so we can laugh at it.

As for the NijiEN? Fuck no. The only people they had that would qualify for any of them were Selen and Pomu. I think they tried to sneak Ike into some nomination but he barely got a handwaved mention.

>>91588220
Fishaman's Oshi is Marine, you out-of-the-loop swine

>>91598072
The awareness of the JP scene amongst whoever was picking the nominees was clearly very low, like "googled it and based things on the first result which was a reddit post from 2020" levels

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>>91586357
>Phase Connect (-$50,000)
Thanks for paying Phasenogs

>>91598229
apparently the nominees were by popular vote, with individual people being capped at 2 categories max according to Doki (fanbase, organization, events, etc. being loopholes).
So I guess a bunch of people either voted kuzuha, or there's so few popular fps vtubers that he was in just due to lack of options.

The same thing happened with the "best vtuber event." Originally it was "best non-concert vtuber event" but they retroactively added concerts since fucking nobody except for Filian herself and Doki does anything that would qualify as an event in the western sphere, hence a goddamn subathon and a rule-bending concert being added in.

>>91598101
Marine lost.

>>91598430
The public could submit nominees for consideration, then the organisers chose who amongst those actually got nominated + chose the clips to represent them
The clips have the same problem, like Suisei was nominated for best music and rather than picking a song from her over 4 albums worth of originals, they chose a group cover she was in

>>91586200
I heard this event was sponsored by some porn site or something? Which one was it? I know twitch is a softcore porn site but I don't think that's the one people were talking about.

Justchads, we won 2 awards!!

>>91593511
the funny part is her big event that broke all twitch records (wooooah) lost to a fucking GTA server

>>91593802
nobody cares what swarmcucks feel

>>91586200
Why did you split indies and ex-Nijis?

>>91598430
>apparently the nominees were by popular vote
They were not.

>>91599413
Losing to a big Hololive event when she didn't even care about the award show is neither funny nor surprising.

>>91586200
I thought we already had an award show?
Did another happen because because we didn't like IM rigging the system once again?

>>91586200
Literally who fucking cares about some westoid made up awards show? Are you "people" really putting any stock into this? It was hosted by fucking Filian of all people.

>>91600376
Hololive won so yes we DO care about it.

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>>91586200
>>Phase Connect (-$50,000)
KWABOTY

>>91586200
thanks

>>91593802
swarmfags continue being the worst posters on this board
they’re sister tier insufferable

>>91604517
I've seen at least one Vedal shipper who's admitted to being a former fan of Luxiem and in other places there seem to be a lot of Chinese women fawning over Vedal - so some actually are sisters bizarrely.

>>91589177
i don't see NIji taking anything, oh wait, who was the one that claims they're the biggest?

>>91586200
>Ex-Nijisanji
Shall we see an Ex-Holo category next year?

>>91586200

>>91587250
If they're not willing to stream the awards, let alone record acceptance speeches, they shouldn't be allowed, period.

Were people expecting Phase to win anything? Actually paying for visibility was the smartest thing they could do. They're completely irrelevant in the EN vtubing landscape: youtube is all Hololive, and twitch is VShojo and indies. Small corpos don't even register for most people.

>>91593204
It was a great event.

>>91588921
none(except maybe small local ones that are relevant maybe to themselves but that's a stretch)

>>91599413
To be fair, that GTA server was one of hololive's most kino events. It had tons of great moments.

>>91607022
Uh oh, melty.

>>91586200
I don't get it. If you want to know who the most popular vtubers are, why not just look at /#/ and save yourself 3.5 hours

I wish they moved camera less and did less cuts on Lia's dance. It's the only important thing there.

>>91600376
Better luck next year phasekek.

>>91593138
Who?

>>91590459
The people voted for this, not judges who don't even know who Kizuna Ai is. I love democracy.

I think Katie should have won Music Vtuber just for being something different than the generic JPop every vtuber does and we all know Fauna didn't really deserve her wins in the categories she won in, but otherwise the winners were fine in my eyes.

>>91599413
Well the subathon ran 24 hours a day for a month and the only thing anyone ever mentions about it is that a group of people bought a shit ton of gift subs.

>>91595657
>from kawaii(soon to be dissolved
They ended two weeks ago anon
https://youtu.be/YaPfsO2PPX0
https://youtu.be/YkoGTFmEeQA

>>91608264
>Fauna didn't really deserve her wins
ASMR sure, she would agree herself. Zatsu she absolutely deserve the win, everyone loves her yapping. She should have been nominated for funniest vtuber instead of ASMR.

>>91586357
the phase concert was good. those girls won.
pippa lost tho so that is always fun to see.

>>91608264
I don't think there's anything wrong with Fauna winning the Just Chatting award and I voted for Michi there.
The only reason that her win in the asmr category feels undeserved is that she didn't really do much in that regard this year, not her actual ability.

>>91586200
>Zentreya
based

>>91608986
She's finally officially the best gamer

>>91597382
didn't fuwomoca say something last year? I remember them pushing to win in that category last year.

>>91595673
Yeah this is my gripe. There needs to be some kind of eligibility requirement in this category. Seems shit for the other nominees, whom I assume put the work in only for Fauna to win by doing basically nothing.

>>91586200
Hololive always wins, as usual.

>>91607064
phase won something or other last year, I remember pippa got an award.

>>91609622
it was bullshit when dooby3d was nominated for best tech tuber and league of her own on the back of literally 3 streams.

it still pretty much has to be a hololive, vshojo, ligger sweep because otherwise the credibility of the award show would be nothing. they just have to get more creative with award categories. assume vtuber of the year and stuff will go to big numbers, but maybe Miss Vtuber should be soft locked to exclude holo and vshojo

ok you guys are the big time, well you are not eligible for the awards meant for smaller vtubers.

>>91609120
>she

>>91609761
>I remember pippa got an award.
get your memory checked because no she didn't.

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>mouse beats pekora, marine, kiara over 2 years at the same show by popular vote
>fuwamoco finally gets the big win against her
Neat. I knew fuwamoco had a big year, but it's interesting to see where it took them.

>>91609986
Ah yeah you're right lol. I was thinking she won most chaotic last year. I guess cause they were showing clips of her or something.

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>>91586200
Congrats to the cute dogs from a mousebro.

It;s funny leading up to this people dismissed the Vtuber Awards as some small thing.
Sure enough nearly every general live posted the event and watched it and now will shitpost about it until the next who drama drops

then you have vtubers who were nominated brought to tears because they didn't win. these awards have something here it is being accepted as the biggest industry event of the year. holo talents love it and wish they could show up, but cover smartly keeps the wall up because they don't need to show up and can after the fact flex they have award winning talent as chosen by the industry

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>>91609986
He is partially right. Phase did win an award. they won Rising Vtuber Agency

I will never understand how people can still be dumb enough to take anything seriously just because it's called an "award."

I just came up with The Shit Awards. All of you won in every category. You may now spend the next 5 years talking about this fact.

>>91610285
And then you have vtubers who were nominated and that won who have not said a single thing, reinforcing the fact that these "awards" are just some small thing.

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>>91610285
Yeah very smart decision to not allow talents attend these events
Truly shows how much Hololive Inc. LOVES the vtuber community

Pekora stopping her Game Awards stream because she lost deflection thread

>>91610285
>holo talents love it and wish they could show up
Well, people spammed gg's chat about it when she won one and her response was basically "who cares".
The problem with these is the vtuber scene is essentially split between Twitch and YouTube. Hololive is still massive enough to get votes in this, but it was pretty obvious that the nominees made no sense because the people picking them don't watch enough of the YouTube vtubers to know them.

>>91610285
It's not small, but people are still suspicious of it because, let's be honest, it's run by fucking Filian.
I could see it gaining prestige over the years if they keep at it and don't fuck up. They should also try to look for bigger sponsors (not for money, but to look more legitimate), but it's going to be difficult with the lewdtuber category.

>>91610285
I would not be shocked if you saw hololive show up to next year's show. They didn't show up to the first couple Offkai's because it was not a proven thing and what if it was small and beneath the hololive brand? However, they showed up this year and will likely show up next year too because Offkai became legit enough.
if they could just drop the fansly sponsorship from it i think that would get them let the girls attend if they wanted.

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>>91610552
Next year the IDF will sponsor the event and all of Hololive will show up

>>91610552
the fact Pippa has not won either year in categories she could believably win and nobody would argue it tells you it is not THAT rigged. Filian & Pippa have been riding eachother's dicks hard the 13 months.

>>91610445
Pekora had something later to do, she always said she was going to watch it until her award and leave.
But then you would need to watch streams and understand Japanese to know that.

>>91610634
Yeah, I never implied it was rigged. Most of the results made sense.
But Filian being the figurehead is still an issue, because it's Filian and despite her popularity she's a yabmaster.

>>91610552
If they're going to include JP vtubers (and it is farcical to call something "the vtuber awards" if you don't) they need organisers that are more familiar with the Japanese scene and YouTube in general. A lot of the nominees were really baffling and they chose awful clips to represent them across the board.

>>91610820
Filian being the figurehead is a good thing because she would probably win a lot of the awards otherwise because her audience is 12 year olds who will vote spam

>>91610576
yeah i don’t expect Fansly to sponsor it next year
Filian said she had to fight tooth and nail to keep the lewdtuber award in this time

I think if they made the award show EN eligible only it would help improve it
Also them having musical performances this year was a giant step in the right direction to make the show more legitimate and watchable. Instead of it being just a glorified clipshow, they actually had some substance this year.

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>>91610860
>she would probably win a lot of the awards otherwise
lmao

>>91610376
Mouse's reaction was pretty much exactly that https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2327069546?t=1h14m3s
>Chat says congratulations because she won
>She assumes it's people talking about The Streamer Awards that happened a week ago and says thank you

>>91610992
That's just her unironically hating Filian

>>91610988
She would probably easily win funniest by virtue of just being the biggest name and having the largest voting block of literal children

>>91610926
>I think if they made the award show EN eligible only it would help improve it
And a good way to make it completely irrelevant.

>>91611065
Naw she legitimately didn't know, she'd been recording stuff for most of the day and then had a sponsor to do as well.

>>91611065
Why wouldnt she, for the supposed "Queen of Vtubers" to get regularly beaten by a retard who cant even buy her model, its gotta sting a little bit

>>91611082
Homie, no one gives a fuck about Japan. That's why they never win.

>>91611123
uh oh snacker melty.

>>91610992
She actually acknowledged filian's awards on both years. No JP is ever going to that much.

>>91610992
She knows what she was doing. Vtubers are all terminally online and yet she didn't know about it?
Come on.

>>91610926
I think if your vtuber award thing excludes Japan, which is the vast majority of the market for the vtubers, you'd have to call it something other than "the vtuber awards"
It would be like burgers putting on a soccer tournament and calling it The Football Cup

>>91610992
>Congratulations?
>Oh about the streamer awards? Yeah it's been a wild week. Thank you.
>The vtuber awards?
>I won?
>What did I win?
>Zen and Mel won too?
>Oh shit I gotta message Mel and Zen!

>>91611141
lmao, what the fuck are you talking about? Where do you think vtubing comes from, the Easter Island?

>>91611261
Yeah you're right. I retract my suggestion

>>91611261
>Japan, which is the vast majority of the market for the vtubers
EN has had the biggest share of the market since 2022.

>>91611292
Vtubing is dominated by the west.

>>91611261
>vast majority of the market for the vtubers
Vast majority of the vtuber market is english indies. Easily by number. When you consider there's some some 60,000+ vtubers at this point, most of them are not the JP corpos, those are just the bigger ones.

>>91611370
kek, you're not even trying anymore
probably should get your trolling licence revoked

you have to understand the ego of all these women. they care and acting smug and dismissive is their move sometimes, especially when it was with twitch clique shit involved.
It is simple political shit. Zen did a watch along yesterday and when the Phase 3D show came up, he switched off to show a tailer of Geega's 3D announcement. That was a calculated move. There are petty political games.

>>91610860
>her audience is 12 year olds who will vote spam
Swarm are children who spam in general (look at the Twitch chat at any point during the awards vod even when Neuro wasn't up for an award - there were even multiple other chatters complaining about it) AND they have the power of the Chinese on their side - yet they still didn't win more than one award. So I'm not sure vote spamming is too much of an issue.

>>91611455
If Japan is so relevant why don't they win any awards?

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>>91611292
You know Power Rangers become more popular than Super Sentai in the west? Even in the country of japan the original MMPR season was so big it was dubbed back into japanese and aired with better ratings than Zyuranger in it's home country. Much like how Gura become a bigger face of hololive than anyone else in the company.

>>91611480
You know Zen was gassing up Phase all night, and Mel was too.

>>91611332
Anon, hololive and nijisanji alone average a combined quarter million viewers peak every day
There aren't that many people watching the vtuber tag on twitch even if you include the people that aren't vtubers but are using it as a joke

>>91611565
And? EN indies make up majority of the market.

>>91611480
Because Geega had just posted it on twitter.
I also think it's funny you use Zen as an example for
>the ego of all these women
and then imply he's a guy. At least stick to one narrative, phasetard.

>>91611561
?

>>91611592
I don't think this is even true if you mean by quantity of vtubers with 0-5 viewers and not actual popularity

>>91611565
Now look at how many viewers live in japan. It's very easy to understand how something can be incredibly popular and then get who'd by someone else because they've never heard of it in their part of the internet. It applies very well to vtubing, and a lot of things popular in any particular country, that doesn't get as big outside of that country. It's like selling out an 80k stadium as a national rockstar, but then you go to another country and that country doesn't give a fuck.

>>91611639
They were saying nice things about them? Saying they were great, etc? That's what gassing up means. That they work hard and so on.

>>91611680
But the topic is the popularity of vtubers, which are mainstream in Japan and niche everywhere else
It is an objective fact that there are more people watching JP vtubers than EN ones, the data is readily available

>>91611480
mel literally watch lia's part and said it was the cutest thing ever

>>91611661
Do you actually thinkg all 60k vtubers out there belong MOSTLY to corpos bro?

>>91611757
That's not what is being discussed, the question is who are the majority of vtuber viewers watching
If you take hololive, nijisanji, and vspo's Japanese members they have more viewers combined than the entire rest of the vtuber market in all languages

>>91611731
If all your viewers are centralized within the country of japan and every other vtuber fan is in the west, then, as I said before, japan doesn't matter.
See the awards, see who's popular and known everywhere else. You are trying to look at raw number data and it's melting your brain cause you don't understand that it's irrelevant here when centralized to a single place.

>>91611661
>>91611841
EN indies with less than 1k viewers have more combined viewers than all japanese vtubers combines.

>>91611848
I'm just saying it would be retarded to call them "the vtuber awards" if they excluded the objectively most popular vtubers anon
Like I said, it would be like having a US-exclusive soccer tournament and calling it The Soccer World Cup, I'm sure it'd be fun to watch and valid in its own right but everyone would know the name was incredibly retarded

>>91611895
>the objectively most popular vtubers
JP are not objectively the most popular because they are ONLY popular in ONE country.

>>91611841
I'm glad you brought up vspo because it's a perfect example. Nobody even knows who the fuck they are. And despite Niji continuing to do numbers, they've completely fallen off in the west as well.

>>91586200
>-$50k
findom?

>>91611926
This is like saying the NFL isn't popular because 95% of the viewers are burgers

>>91611972
I mean, as much as I love to shit on the UK with superbowl memes, statistically soccer kills it. In every single country except the US.

>>91611841
Who the fuck cares? Do you understand this is a small bubble in the whole market? The fact that only a fraction of the population can watch them gives them a huge handicap. And 99% of them can't even say hello in English for example.

>Host an award show to be like the big industries
>Holo-sweep
Take the hint and stay in your hovels
This ENTIRE industry is for hololive only not pathetic leeches like you!

>>91609537
nope

>>91611972
No, we're saying they're not as popular outside their home turf with the rest of the world as some other chuubas are. That's why they never win any popularity awards.

>>91612100
Don't speak for me. I'm saying holo JP are objectively less popular than EN vtubers.

I voted for Hololive in every category.

>>91612089
Well they said something this year lol.
https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1868255722582278488

>>91611972
No, this is like saying that nobody cares in the rest of the globe about NFL even if it is hugely successful domestically. The rest of the world knows about it but don't watch it

>>91612155
No, it's like you run an American football team in Sweden and are insisting that nobody cares about American ones

>>91612132
I mean objectively they are because your counting the entire fucking earth bro, I agree.

>>91612150
>they dedicated a stream to the Vtuber Awards
...but i thought holos didn't care....

>>91612155
Except nobody knows about JP vtubers.

>crime does pay
what did Filian mean by that

>>91586357
the halftime show was fire

>>91612228
Well that's my whole point. The rest of the world knows JP vtubers are huge but don't know any of them and don't care. Just like NFL, they have seen it but don't give a damn about Superbowl or the teams

Reminder that "Japan's #1 vtuber" lost to Ironmouse.
That's how little Japanese vtubers matter.

>>91612357
>The rest of the world knows JP vtubers are huge
They actually don't though. Nobody knows anything about JP vtubers. That's how irrelevant they are.
I'm pretty sure most people believe that holo JP is a tiny sideshow that does nothing compared to holo EN.

>>91586200
how long till vshojou pips hololive?

>>91586200
how to improve
>ditch any falseeyed association
>ditch the fansly sponsorship
>expand on the concert idea. it was a real highlight. maybe also do a music performance between every award?

>>91612872
False just performed the closest thing dramatubing has ever done to genuine investigative journalism. He earned his right to be there.

>>91611392
This is like that would you rather fight 60000 ant-sized bears or one bear-sized ant.

>>91610926
So henya gets cut out from it?

>>91614466
English indies are THE vtuber community, not japanese corpos.

>>91611592
Oh, you’re retarded

>>91612383
JP's #1 vtuber literally just beat mouse for vtuber of the year, retard.

>>91615072
Nope.

>>91586421
Big

>>91586357
Good summary