Last night showed Hololive dunk on most of the competitors in The Vtuber Awards. Some people are obviously irritated over this, feeling like other corpos and indies are not getting a fair share, even though the awards are hosted by two indies (albeit backed by Mythic Talent).So what would you do to make it less of a #HoloTakeover?
Maybe some smaller corpos and indies can band together and organize an awards show for smaller vtubers. Oh wait, that requires doing something besides complaining on twitter
>sister trying to spin this in a good faith
>>91613459Why do you think there's anything to be fixed? If you had a tenth of a brain you would know why they nominate holos ON PURPOSE (and have them win).
>>91613459Perhaps this is a sign that people don't actually care about slop react content or internet whores using vtubing as a front for their onlyfans.No, what am I talking about, corpo bad indie good!
Each category's winner should be decided with a Fortnite match
>>91613459The awards should be indies onlyHolos already win by default by being in the best vtuber org (presented by Phase Connect), so the only accolades that matter would be recognition from outside the vtuber bubble (sponsorships and collabs with bigger orgs, aka selling out)Other corpos should take a page out of niji and have their own awards.
Just ban them? The entire show is 100% rigged anyway and a twitch circlejerk at heart. If it wasn't rigged, some random literalwho 2-view would never be able to win a category no matter how "deserving" they are.If it wasn't rigged, how the fuck did Mito get a nomination for vtuber of the year? Even IF Nijiniggers secretly rallied together to nominate someone they sure as well wouldn't chooese Mito over Kuzuha or fucking Vox or something.They clearly just wanted to slurp Nijicock so they threw a "safe" candidate in there. Same with nominating them for corp of the year.I would go as far as to say that FWMC winning was also set up by them. For one, to attempt to build a bridge to Holo and two, so they can pretend it's NOT rigged just so in the future they can continue pushing the award up sleepstreamrat's ass while having plausibly deniablity.
>>91613903you forgot your meds this morning, anon
>>91613459It can't be fixed as long as filian is running it because she absolutely wants it to look like THE definitive "global" vtuber awards show.You're not going to get her to ban holo because that would mean losing on a lot of potential viewers.
>>91613459Couldn't you only select from four choices? Who determines the four? Let the fans write in the names or select from a bigger pool and include relevant clips.
>>91614106Nominations were decided by the fans
>>91613903>If it wasn't rigged, how the fuck did Mito get a nomination for vtuber of the year?This but about all the holo JP nominations. The Botan fan discord that supposedly brigaded the nominations to get Botan into the FPS vtuber category has no idea why she's there when she mostly plays fighting games now.
>>91613459Split categories between large corpos, small corpos and indies. Decide what makes a corpo large or small.
>>91613552I think there was one earlier in the year for 2views.
>>91613903I'm inclined to believe this simply based on the fact Peo didn't win despite clearly being everyone's favourite and instead someone I have never heard of and is apparently their twitch friend did instead.
>>91613459As someone who never watches Holo, I am fine with the outcome. We certainly shouldn't exclude Hololive. Besides, while Holo won a plurality of the awards, it wasn't like it won the outright majority of them. And in many of the categories it won in, it wasn't a foregone conclusion. Most people thought the VOTY would be Doki or Mouse.BTW: Filian and Mouse hate each other for reasons unknown, so the former prefers this outcome.
>>91613459Less vulgarity.>EAT MY FUCKING ASS
>>91614592>reasons unknownIt's pretty simple, Filian stole her idea of running a vtuber awards show and she's been bitter about it ever since to the point that she wouldn't acknowledge her nominations in it and didn't make a fuss about her winning an award which was basically there to placate her. She had no problem shilling other awards that she has been nominated for though.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2327069546?t=1h14m3sThe thing is though, an award show run by Vshojo would likely not go down so well anyway as they would be rather biased towards Vshojo and Twitch whores and likely would be run in the style of the Streamer Awards with jury votes and obvious rigging. The Filian awards have their faults but people would likely side with her over Ironmouse's proposed "Vshojo and Friends" awards show.
>>91613459I wrote this in another thread but there's a reason why TGA has the fan votes only counting as 10%.Putting the most popular vtubing company in the world right now in every nomination is basically a guaranteed Holo sweep and how you end up with Fauna winning ASMR of the year with only 2 ASMRs in the beginning of the year.Like other people suggested, the categories are better off split so you don't end up with situations where you have someone who has more subs than every nominee combined.Also, the shocking lack of JP options that were there was woeful. You're in the vtuber sphere and the only one you can default to is Mito.
>>91614827Holy shit I completely forgot about this, god damn. I remember that, how the fuck did everyone sweep this juicy drama under the rug?I'm no fan of filian but fucking over the grifter rat is always based.
>>91614984People likely talked Ironmouse into shutting up about it and just told her to stick to winning awards from the more legitimate shows with bigger media attention. There's other projects that she can do outside of an awards show.
>>91614984>This is so exciting and dramatic that I completely forgot it ever happenedhuh?
>>91613459related: /vt/ should make their own awards
>>91615211The only time I heard people talking about it was when Filian announced hers to snub Ironrat, but at that point it wasn't clear she would actually succeed or that it would make Ironrat actually drop her own project. By the time that actually happened I didn't hear jackshit about it anymore.
>>91615292With blackjack and hookers!
>>91615354>to snub IronratThe rat's won 4 individual awards in 2 years of this show while barely acknowledging its existence. Guess snubbing didn't work out as well as she hoped.
>>91614522Peo is the favorite of a few dozen phasefags and the seven people /here/ who mostly watch hololive but also watch jp indies. Cerber took the swarm vote, whoreclan went for mom, and ari took the vshojo vote. Peo did not get the hololive vote because Peo is not a member of hololive and 80% of the hololive audience does not know what a Peo is.
>>91615211To be fair, a lot of things have happened this year that it's easy to forget most of the drama that happened before January of this year
>>91613459Fucking scrap it. It's been nothing but rigging and industry plants from the start. New media shouldn't emulate traditional media anyway, it always fucking sucks.
>>91615841>Cerber took the swarm vote, whoreclan went for mom, and ari took the vshojo vote.I don't know who any of those people or things are.
>>91615841EAT MY FUCKING ASS
>>91613459Why didn't you make this post last year when IM won all the awards? Why do you only complain when Hololive wins? Why do you think we are allies?
>>91616436Yes, they are all Twitch indies and the award was for rising star. By definition, they are not very famous.
>>91613552Fpbp
>>91616630Hololive won 9 awards this year.Hololive won 9 awards last year.Why do you only complain about 'IM' awards?
>>91616073>>91615211>>91614984It wasn't even Filian's biggest yab of the year either
>>91616436That's the point
>>91617216So what happened? Fillian bought the model from the original person who didn't even tell the parent?
>>91617197Let's be real nobody gives a shit about all the placebo categories they only exist as fluff to put besides "VTUBER OF THE YEAR" the circlejerk award; and since it's rigged this choice depends on who filian is trying to pander to.
>>91613459Make it EN only (seriously, if you know nothing about the JP scene don't try to include them and bungle it)If you don't want big popular groups to sweep it constantly then make it explicitly the indie awards (and don't pretend vshojo are indies)
>>91617317The model Filian uses is one of those 3D VR models you can buy for general use, so it's not only not custom made for her, but she admitted to also pirating it. So yeah, you can joke she's not just a content thief, but an actual thief.
>>91617517Shit happens.
>>91617197You didn't answer my question. Also, I have never made this type of thread.But if you want me to answer you, I think IM doesn't deserve the awards she won. She won last year because Hololive didn't pay attention to these awards that year.
>>91617517The problem arose because she wanted to sell a toy with this design.
>>91617868>>91617517Ah I see, I understand now. Filian tried to make a nendo then the parent was like "wtf, nobody told me they want to make my design a toy"
>>91617480The problem is that this exists only thanks to Hololive, it is not an event created for indies.https://youtu.be/m-LXDo6vCWo?si=jnJPzOYi_vTAU8FC
>>91617985Yeah
>>91617868>>91618009Which only made it worse because Filian not only stole the Rindo model, she admitted on stream she pirated the model, but then tried to profit off merch based on the model while totally cutting out the artist.However, since Jingo hasn't said anything since, one can assume Filian paid them off, both for the model and a promise of royalties for any merch based off Rindo.
>>91618211The artist was never upset about filian using the model, he just doesnt want goodsmile to make a single cent off his work.
>>91618211only sisters, trannies and artfags really cared about it
>>91619607>>91619207If there's one thing Filian excels at, it's damage control. Like when she had that one youtuber call her out for taking content without crediting people. She said nothing, meanwhile Pippa butted in and got smacked down hard.
Hololive should be excluded or limited. Presently, it's like watching World Cup for American football.
>>91619607>It's ok if my oshi stole someone else's work without the proper licensing and made millions off it, she is cute!Average Filian fan everyone
>>91620438Are you Jingo?
>>91613459It won't happen because it would be too much effort, but have judge voting. 100% viewer votes always turns it into a popularity contest. Also have someone who actually knows about the topic pick the nominees. Fauna is a perfect example of someone who shouldn't have even been nominated for ASMR and solely won because of popularity. There was also SquChan for the lewdtuber category, who isn't even a fucking lewdtuber bro.
>>91619607>artfagsThat's the entire vtuber community, only you guys hate artists like that. Not even the AI fanbase hates artists like that.>>91619952True
>>91619607Anyone who isn't patron simp for Filian to chat with her GFE ChatGPT realizes what she did was scummy as fuck.
>>91620768The point of this whole event is that it is a celebration of the vtuber community, if they do what you suggest this event stops having a purpose.
all the awards that hololive won at this event this year are well deserved.
>>91621152and yet no one caresseethe more sister
>>91614827https://x.com/ironmouse/status/1868336847711272984
>>91621304>and yet no one caresFalse> seethe more sisterRent free
>>9162132912 hours later...no mention of the event itself or even their thumbnail.
>>91621304You do, otherwise you wouldn't be downplaying it.
I say this as an absolute gooner, but did they really need Shylily dressed like a prostitute as a host? I couldn't take this seriously at all.
it would be fine if hololive won everything if they were also able/willing to accept the awards. having them as nominees who will guaranteed sweep the awards while also not accepting is self-sabotage on the organizers' part. turns it from an awards show by and for the community into filian's strawpoll.having said that I'm also supportive of hololive's decision not to allow involvement in the show. they have a brand reputation to uphold, and don't need to be featured alongside fansly.next year just ask nominees if they can either show up live or provide a recorded acceptance speech, and if they can't they're ineligible. easy fix.
I will never forgive them for robbing Peo
>>91622967>filian's strawpollYou know, this gave me an idea. What if your idea, but the actual winners are still kept. Say the poll had a holo, and she won, but since Holo doesn't accept entries, the show only shows the other candidates, but the actual results are on the website.
>>91613459biboo deserved the gamer awardfuwamoco did absolutely not deserve the vtuber of the year award
>>91622967It's not only the Fansly sponsor. Holo doesn't see the value letting their talents compete in a third party's show for free. Filian tried way too hard to get their attention only to be ignored hard.My honest opinion is don't nominate corpo Vtubers in categories they have no reason to be because the mindless fans will vote them anyway. Create a good committee of many Vtubers (corpo and not) who have a valid opinion and propose objective nominations. This way you don't see nominations forced by mindless fans or Filians friends getting shoehorned to awards like Mint for Miss Vtuber when she has one modelAnd lastly, make a category for Best Indie Vtuber. Can't believe there was not such an option, like wtf
>>91624267Fauna and Calli said last year that they really liked the fact that it was entirely fan votedthe old guard won't be there for much longer and the newer holos don't have the big fan support like them
>>91613459Nothing, these indie whores should be grateful that they sharing the stage with great vtubers and some of them are nominated alongside holo members in many categories making it seem like they have similar content which could boost their viewership but nah they rather cry over how the fuck they can't beat holomems in a popularity contest because they drank the holos have no merit of their own kool-aid and they are la unshackle creatividad indies when in reality you could define all of them by 3 things: loud, obnoxious and vulgar.They deserve fucking nothing, I hope every bitch who is moaning about hololive winning gets blacklisted from everything.
why is lewdtuber even a category? why reward talentless whores?
>>91613459Introduce a jury whose vote counts for a percentage of the final result. People already whine and accuse them of rigging the awards, might as well introduce a mechanism to actually do it.
>>91624537No don't get me wrong. Keep the 100% fan vote, just let a committee handle the nominations. And I am not saying to snub every corpo Vtuber in all categories and have only indies.>>91624708WTF are you talking about you fag? Blacklisted from what? Holo is a bubble, when was the last time EN talents interacted with the outside world? Once every three months?
if they can drop Fanlsy as a sponsor and drop Falseeyed, then cover MIGHT consider sending girls who want to go.I think if Pekora won it last year and Fuwamoco won it this year, they would strongly consider showing up next year. Picking Ironmouse over Pekora likely made cover dismiss the awards as illegitimate, but this year's winner were pretty on point save for Fauna ASMR.I think the addition of the halftime concert was a big plus and added legitimacy to the event. Big events have performers, and last year was missing that.
>>91625323Or you know, maybe ditch JP side and have it be the EN Vtuber awards. Nobody watches JP anyways. Including (You)
>>91613459Serious answer? Just do what every other actual awards show does and only have a specific amount of fan votes count while the other percent is decided on by judges, this can insure less corpos win by numbers alone
Ditch Filian.
>>91613459Just have seperating Hololive to it’s own category might be good (since they have a decent amount of talents to compete against each other). But then it might be a Vshojo takeover… They can’t make a seperate Vshojo category since they don’t have enough talents to compete with each other. Maybe just have an indie vtuber award? But that shit would be boring to watch with literal whos, and it wouldn’t get numbers. I think the most likely is just to ban the winners from winning again. Hall of fame type deal as honorable mentions (if the previous winners did something exiciting that year).
>there are people IN THIS VERY THREAD who unironically, actually, in real life, care about "vtuber awards"
Seeing these suggestions of having a judge panel… I can already imagine 5 basement dwellers spending all their time watching every Vtuber to ever exist judging that shit.
>>91613459It seems pretty based no? The results were expected and that showed the transparency that the organizers had. It was truly an awards for the fans and voted by the fans. Granted, it became a popularity contest but it’s perfectly fair.
>>91613459Maybe you will also complain about Streamer Awards being won by friends of organizers? And then what, jet fuel cannot melt steel beams? Take your meds, anon, now!
>>91613459I mean...Funa graduates soon so that's at least two spots down. I love me sadgirls, but Faunas videos helped me through some tough times, no shit I voted her. Honestly, besides singing and drawing, all other categories are fair game next year.
>>91613459>Awards should be given at second places because my egoFaggotry in motion. I will admit there are some bullshut stuff (ASMR to osmeone who hasn’t done one the entire year, limit to how many categories you can get, JP vtubers in a full EN show) but that is not who wins.If the problem is the 100% voted by people, then you need critical experts to take a piece of that % so it doesn’t become a popularity contest…problem is, who is a neutral expert in this?Bets are they would have someone like that faggot Twitch CEO or fleshies. That is objectively worse, so the popular vote stays. Simple as that.
>>91614522Who is Peo? I didn't even know she existed
>>91626951One went so far to look for an image to post and used green text randomly, that is crazy isn’t it? What a megafaggot.
>>91625323>An EN event should cater to JP demandsI don’t see anyone even in JP prganizing awards at the same level, so it automatically makes them legit and whoever is skirting around a coper.If you don’t like it, make it your own, but corpos are retarded and they would make them only about their corpo, thus a circlejerk of narcs (like Niji).This is just a thread full of people seething but offering no solution aside “listen to my faggot cry”. Twatter levels.
>>91613459>Last night showed Hololive dunk on most of the competitors in The Vtuber Awards.It was even worse last year, this time there were some categories with multiple holos which split the braindead holobrony vote. This style of award show just doesn't work.
>>91614827I'm inclined to believe this rrat based on the fact that Mouse showed all out for QT Cinderella's streamer awards including a new song performance but gave no fucks about Filian's award show beside a single tweet 12 hours later.
>>91614827My respect for Filian went up, and likewise my respect for Ironmouse went down.
>>91626951I like to take the pepeloni and award
>>91613459>kick out holos and call it twitch vtuber awardsunicorns won't watch it and bloat numbers, sponsors leave>keep as is but do jury vote instead of pop voterigged>niji, cover, vshojo, mythic joint show with jury votingmaybe, but not going to happen
