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>>91636891who's going to tell her that the reason they weren't included was because the event was organized BY the girls FOR the girls. at some point they need to understand that 80% of the homo-holo segregation is the girls making their own spaces female only, oomfie, it's the girls themselves that don't want to be associated with them, sorry, you might not like it, but it's up to the girls to chose who they want to play it If it was up to Cover everything would be co-ed
GRIM
>>91637217Recent clip numbers>>91596114 >>91596145
>>91637217I love them
>>91636570Is the perfect mix between mature and cute.
>>91637217* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>50,673: Hololive English (Hololive)>42,849: Pekora (Hololive)>34,155: Noel (Hololive)>32,628: Miko (Hololive)>25,220: Subaru (Hololive)>25,075: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>24,163: Towa (Hololive)>22,134: Calliope (Hololive)>20,483: Koyori (Hololive)>19,899: Botan (Hololive)>19,106: Haru (Nijisanji)>16,769: Korone (Hololive)>15,483: Noel (Hololive)>15,261: Lui (Hololive)>13,228: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)>12,186: Met (VSPO)>11,484: Nui (Nijisanji)>11,340: Okayu (Hololive)>11,019: Fubuki (Hololive)>10,716: Botan (Hololive)>10,432: Sendo (VSPO)>10,060: Nozomi (Nijisanji)
>>91637038funny because if bettel wasnt in stars he could have won the award being indie
>>91637353DECEMBER 2024 GOLD>1) 117,359: Fauna (Hololive) Graduation Announcement >2) 77,038: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3>3) 70,713: Mito (Nijisanji) Major Announcement >4) 63,421: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 >5) 58,854: Korone (Hololive) MikKorone Important Announcement >6) 54,332: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 >7) 83,539: Marine (Hololive) Sololive Day 1 >8) 100,370: Shion (Hololive) 3D Birthday LIVE >9) 59,309: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 >10) 69,576: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 >11) 58,039: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 >12) 73,665: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 >13) 131,397: Shiba (Nijisanji) 3D debut >14) 106,640: Hololive (Hololive) Gamers 3D Live>15) 50,673: Hololive English (Hololive) Promise musical> PER COMPANY6x: Hololive9x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER7x: Kuzuha1x: Fauna, Mito, Korone, Marine, Shion, Shiba, Hololive, Hololive English
I think the YouTube algorithm is biased against Nijisanji. I mostly watch Hololive and Phase-Connect and the only Niji I'm subbed to is Rosemi. The algorithm never recommends me any Nijis except Aia Amare for some reason. Sometimes I check Hololyzer and see a bunch of Niji ENs are streaming live but none of their streams appear in my recommendations. Meanwhile, the algorithm recommends me lots of live streams from smaller corps and indies that I had never heard of.
>>91637414DECEMBER 2024 SILVER>1) 79,353: Towa (Hololive) 2nd YuruHolo GodField Tournament>2) 48,620: Suisei (Hololive) ShiraKen League + Announcement>3) 58,773: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3>4) 57,069: Miko (Hololive) Miko's room, Guest: FLOWGLOW>5) 54,396: Marine (Hololive) Gyakutotsu before sololive>6) 39,873: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro>7) 60,908: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCR GTA 3>8) 69,306: Marine (Hololive) Sololive DAY2 free part>9) 49,664: Mio (Hololive) 6th anniversary totsumachi>10) 45,158: Subaru (Hololive) MikoSuba Human Fall Flat>11) 38,616: Fubuki (Hololive) Off-Collab w/ FuwaMoco, Subaru, Miko>12) 44,583: Miko (Hololive) Kanji de GO!>13) 88,384: Ayame (Hololive) Birthday 3D live >14) 42,905: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro >15) 42,849: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro > PER COMPANY13x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER3x: Marine2x: Kuzuha, Miko, Pekora1x: Towa, Suisei, Mio, Subaru, Fubuki, Ayame
>>91637140That shit was ridiculous, 35K people really didn't want to watch homo the next day. It wasn't even holofans only, there were nijinegros and indie watchers too. Every time homos show they are failures unable to grow with even the most buffed shit. Everyone knows them, but no one wants to watch or support them.
I hope Mumei and Fauna keep collaborating even after she graduated.
Raora happihttps://twitter.com/Raora_fans/status/1868482109427286513
>>91637465DECEMBER 2024 BRONZE>1) 48,874: Lui (Hololive) 2nd YuruHolo GodField Tournament>2) 42,954: Miko (Hololive) Talk stream>3) 58,284: Rena (Nijisanji) SMC Christmas 2024>4) 41,780: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #03>5) 46,918: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3>6) 25,967: Wen (Nijisanji) collab>7) 54,256: Miko (Hololive) WWE2K22>8) 65,420: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3>9) 45,152: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Quest III>10) 37,515: Suisei (Hololive) Live Tour free part>11) 37,854: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro>12) 32,290: Marine (Hololive) sololive outfit reveal>13) 54,633: Pekora (Hololive) The game awards watchalong>14) 35,370: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft>15) 34,155: Noel (Hololive)mirishira PowerPro > PER COMPANY11x: Hololive4x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER3x: Pekora, Miko2x: Kuzuha, Marine1x: Lui, Rena, Wen, Suisei, Noel
>>91637401It's also funny because you also had Kiara voting for him (who else was she wanna vote for) so beggars can't even say that the girls didn't help out at all.
>>91637501Same...
>>91637217*YESTERDAY’S EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY*>12/15 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)3.242: Meloco (Nijisanji) | ASMR Stream2.758: Hakka (Holostars) | Handcam Off Collab w/ Axel, Flayon, Shinri1.826: Shu (Nijisanji) | #NIJI_TEKKEN81.758: Miori Celesta (Indie) | Karaoke Stream1.751: Shu (Nijisanji) | Feather Party w/ Kima, Lauren, Maria, Seffyna, Susu1.656: Elira (Nijisanji) | Mario Party Jamboree w/ Finana, Millie, Wilson1.464: Fulgur (Nijisanji) | Outer Wilds1.379: Tenma (Phase-Connect) | Variety Stream1.373: Uruka (Phase-Connect) | Violin Karaoke Stream1.342: Tenma (Phase-Connect) | Atlyss w/ Ember1.168: Sonny (Nijisanji) | #NIJI_TEKKEN81.150: Lia (Phase-Connect) | Free Sponsorship Stream1.101: Nene (Indie) | Free Sponsorship Stream1.087: Goldbullet (Holostars) | Just Drawing1.055: Ike (Nijisanji) | Sonic X Shadow Generations
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1868294034437074981https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1868294034437074981https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1868294034437074981
>>91637427That is how the algorithm is supposed to work, people with similar viewing habits as you stopped clicking on their streams, so you don't see them anymore.
>>91637217DECEMBER 2024 HIGHLANDER>1) 117,359: Fauna (Hololive) Graduation Announcement>2) 77,038: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3>3) 70,713: Mito (Nijisanji) Major Announcement>4) 57,069: Miko (Hololive) Miko's room, Guest: FLOWGLOW >5) 58,854: Korone (Hololive) MikKorone Important Announcement>6) 39,873: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro >7) 83,539: Marine (Hololive) Sololive Day 1>8) 100,370: Shion (Hololive) 3D Birthday LIVE>9) 49,664: Mio (Hololive) 6th anniversary totsumachi >10) 45,158: Subaru (Hololive) MikoSuba Human Fall Flat >11) 38,616: Fubuki (Hololive) Off-Collab w/ FuwaMoco, Subaru, Miko >12) 28,137: Noel (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #5 [5th]>13) 131,397: Shiba (Nijisanji) 3D debut >14) 106,640: Hololive (Hololive) Gamers 3D Live>15) 50,673: Hololive English (Hololive) Promise musical> PER COMPANY12x: Hololive3x: Nijisanji
>>91637427Yeah because the algo can tell that most of the vtuber audience doesn't like watching nijisanji, these days they might as well be in their own bubble
>>91637660Kiara's boobs aren't that big
>>91637683DECEMBER 2024 holoID>1) 3,022: Anya (A Shut-In Daughter)>2) 7,657: Risu (M.M.M.)>3) 4,951: Reine (All You Need is Help)>4) 3,357: Ollie (ANNIVERSARY COUNTDOWN Utawaku)>5) 7,125: Anya (4TH ANNIVERSARY Call-In Celebration)>6) 2,872: Kobo (Honor of Kings)>7) 6,193: Kaela (Path of Exile 2)>8) 2,485: Moona (HoloParade)>9) 3,673: Anya (KUUKIYOMI 4)>10) 5,100: Kaela (Path of Exile 2)>11) 2,340: Moona (Path of Exile 2)>12) 12,179: Kobo (KOBORNDAY2024) >13) 5,648: Kaela (Balatro)>14) 5,101: Kaela (Balatro)>15) 2,659: Kaela (Honor or Kings)> PER STREAMER5x: Kaela3x: Anya 2x: Moona, Kobo1x: Risu, Reine, Ollie
kek Fauna panicking is always adorable
>>91637658This, I literally only watch Holo and never get Phase or Niji recommended. Still get Mint/Doki and random 1/2views though.
>>91637217* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *>12/15 TALLY:50,673: Hololive English (Hololive) | The Broken Promise22,134: Mori (Hololive) | Off-Collab Karaoke w/ Bijou, Fuwawa, Mococo13,775: Filian (Indie) | The Vtuber Awards 20248,846: Gigi (Hololive) | Duck Detective8,432: Cecilia (Hololive) | Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice7,840: Nerisssa (Hololive) | Holocure, If I Swear I End the Stream7,229: Dokibird (Indie) | Post-Fantomethief Offcollab6,786: Nijisanji EN (Nijisanji) | Niji Tekken 8 Tournament>EN GOLDS FOR DECEMBER 20241) Fauna (Hololive) - 117,359 - Important announcement (the serious kind)2) Fauna (Hololive) - 28,655 - Skyrim3) IRyS (Hololive) - 13,145 - Alien Isolation4) Raora (Hololive) - 14,768 - Poppy Playtime 2 w/ Gigi5) Fauna (Hololive) - 18,712 - LA Noire6) Fauna (Hololive) - 17,556 - Family Feud7) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,478 - Path of Exile 28) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,671 - Pikmin 29) Raora (Hololive) - 18,026 - Clubhouse Games w/ Nerissa10) Fauna (Hololive) - 27,510 - Minecraft11) Mori (Hololive) - 13,493 - Path of Exile 212) Baelz (Hololive) - 19,474 - 1M Subs Endurance Karaoke13) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,742 - Silent Hill 2 w/ Gigi14) Fauna (Hololive) - 19,049 - Unarchived Karaoke15) Hololive English (Hololive) - 50,673 - The Broken Promise>PER COMPANY15x: Hololive>PER STREAMER8x: Fauna2x: Raora1x: Baelz, Bijou, Hololive English, IRyS, Mori>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)46p: Fauna15p: Mori14p: Bijou, Raora12p: Baelz9p: Gigi6p: Elizabeth5p: Hololive English, IRyS4p: Kiara2p: Cecilia1p: Dooby, Filian, Kronii
This is what /#/ likes.
BIBOO NOOOOO
AAAAAAAAAH SO CLOSE
fauna thats kinda racist
STOP FAUNA
>>91637725
British Fauna is turning Biboo on
Thank you Biboo for getting one last accent out of her
>>91637812>lists bae twiceuh oh mindbroken
>>91637936Brits don't deserve rights
Tommy Hort
>>91637812>Bae>also Bae
I'm kinda pissed that I fired up my headset to try out the Ame Aquarium just for nostalgia's sake only to find out that it refuses to let me do anything but use PC Link (aka the Quest app version of VR Chat won't even let me in)Somehow, the spirit of Watson haunts me still
BIBOO RAID
>>91638134how chaotic
>>91637998UNFORTUNATELYIDOL CULTUREIS A THING
Biboo is officially potty trained
They're finally letting Biboo take a piss....
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime_irl/comments/1hecnieNijisanji will never live it down
>>91637946>unofficial model
>>91638176And now she's going on her idol journey while Fauna is dropping outHow the turntables
>>91638176It's fortunately now
>>91638196Approved by management.
>>91637217My wife and my daughter
>>91638193eh...they were just a waiting room. They dived to 3-4k when biboo and fauna started.
While I understand moving to Japan since it's a nice placee and going back and forth probably sucks but l respect those who didn't.
>>91638336I'm porkin' your daughter
>>91638193Sis, your livers and Phase girls are getting mogged by Shiori's 4th rebroacast since her break. How about you give them a view instead?
https://x.com/holomeetxTPE24/status/1868249745812291961?
What song was that?
>>91638295So is Korone's furball, Sonic colors, etc. That means nothing.I'll respect Kiara for deliberately getting a bustier model by any means necessary though.
>>91638191LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
>>91638431https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjjZacZSWT4
>>91637506The back is so good that I can forgive the front Raora for being a little derpyEasily mogs the fuck out of the Gigi happi design (seriously I understand what they were going for but it's a HAPPI FOR YOUR OSHI not a Happi for your FANS)
It's crazy how many things Biboo and Fauna actually have in common.
>>91638411Shiori really is a weirdo, I think she can easily do 7k+ is she wanted to.
>towa
>>91638411>all of nijiEN is 3 views except for the one homo doing a genderswap debut>gets more views as a "woman"This image is great
>>91638411nijiseethe
>>91638496To be fair, Gigi's fans are a lot more interesting than Gigi herself.
>>91638474I still don't understand why it's Alduin
Fauna broke you
I love Fauna
>>91638450I bet this dude doesn't believe in Santa. Get some help.
>>91638496wonder if anyone is going to produce one for CC too
Biboo...
If you think EN number is grim, don't look at ID
>>91638595nah
i am starting to think biboo is not very good at this
Jesus christ Biboo she's mentioned this before
>>91638411That's why they hid nijiSEA in their last report...
>>91638645I don't know if Germans are allowed to wear uniforms anymore
>>91638411>dizzy 4 view stream
Does Fauna have to leave?
>>91638775She seems to have been busy this week. Doing what no one fucking knows
Fauna's voice really is angelic
>>91638775I mean stream got delayed by over an hour, this is past her regular hours anyway no?
>fauna wants to go to japanUhhhh rrat bros? Our response?
>>91638411>Aia and Scarle losing to Niji KR Minecraft FairyAlways amazes me how they can get so much money out of such a tiny fanbase.
>>91638892Don't worry the next rrat will be even dumber, somehow
>>91638176UNFORTUNATELYIDOL ACTIVITIESIS A THING
>>91638892Not even the first time she's said this, this month
>>91638892I swear she keeps mentioning wanting to go back to Japan just to fuck with these retarded schizos
Were all these people taking part in this or was it just cpu vs cpu?
>>91636046They are desperate for a win
>>91638801She is preparing for her graduation 3D live
>>91638992
Hey Unicorn, stop bullying Cover!!
https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/964https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/964https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/list/964
>>91639160My invisible gun holding it to the head of Cover.
https://x.com/axelsyrios/status/1868490943130951780https://x.com/axelsyrios/status/1868490943130951780https://x.com/axelsyrios/status/1868490943130951780GRADUATION SOON
She did it
>>91639191>livers
>>91639316>imgboard
would you rather>have sex with Mococo (but you have to pay $100 every time)or>have sex with Fuwawa (but she will pay you $100 every time)
https://x.com/kismetnightgale/status/1868482457407832254they should tag nufagni
>>91637826Always has.
>>91639191AIIEEEE PING PONG
>>91637826yeah
>>91638892>>91639005>>91639008She does officially own Watame a maid cafe date.
>>91639480
>>91639480sex with mori (we dont pay each other because were married)
>needing to frequently go to japan isn't the reasonThen what is the disagreement?
Nice save Fauna kek
>>91639586>picks the worst EN to have sex withlollmao
>>91639396Well, that's what Anycolor refers to their talents as, so it's appropriate to mention it in this context.
>>91639625We'll never know but according to Reine it's "understandable"
>>91639480Pero
>>91639625(((they))) wanted something else
we need to acknowledge the elephant in the room, holoearth is a dogshit idea
>>91639625Song perms probably
Indie bro...
>>91639701Kaela also mentioned she has a plan, so who fucking knows.
>>91639744Cope it's going to be a huge hit
>>91639744All they have to fucking do is get rid of the sandbox shit and just make it another live venue (paid) where you get that shit in 1440p or higher like that one live with Fubu/Mio
>>91639701timestamp?
>>91639744It's a great idea. If you want to have a point, you should have made a comment on how it's being handled
>>91639668This is talking about the time before Sora's debut, Nijisanji only started several months later
>>91639781>here's how we can kill hololive
>>91639625After trying to get vegan food offered at EXPO for over 3 years she finally had enough.
>>91639480Mococo because Fuwawa will jealous and join us
>everyone is white
>>91639701If it's understandable, I have to imagine it's perms nightmare or something like that.Have they been letting people do ASMR in the JP side? Is that an issue? I doubt it but I also don't know
>>91639531Going to be hard to find a maid cafe with vegan options
>>91639874CC did an ASMR yesterday.
>>91639842 (me)be*
>>91639812https://youtu.be/i4fUQ_qNQgs?t=20691Gotta joinda but someone posted a tl;dr
>>91639912>yesterday
>HoloEN is not culld with 20 different cullsFuck You Neal
>>91639912I figured it wouldn't be thatShe did the devil triggers and shit, too, right?
>>91639744>elephant in the roomTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
>>91639967>>91639912Could be member only and fauna never wanted to paywall them
>>91639781She's right. A "fan" that doesn't support everything their oshi does which includes collab with male Vtubers, aren't actual fans but incels seething that they can't be the male Vtuber collabing with her. It would do wonders for the Vtubing community for these "fans" to be filtered out
>>91639781Why do these vtubers have these opinions? Shouldnt they focus on their own shit
>>91638528
>>91639744
>>91639827Oh. Is it terminology that predates Sora's debut then? If not, it would be odd to use the term here then.
>>91639625It is the reason. The timing couldn't reveal the truth and the real reason if it tried.
>>91639744It’s a giga waste of resources for sure but they can all earn it back with concerts being held there and have your character be decked out in item shops such as penlights or happis or whatever they can think of
>>91640005I'm gonna miss her so much...and yes, I'm gonna still support her even after, but wouldn't be the same.
>>91639896Well it's still japan. One day the "Being vegan" fetish/archetype would be popular enough they start making a Vegan theme maid cafe.
>>91640018>Vtubing communityDoesn't exist, sorry Nyfco sister
>>91640018there is no vtuber community everyone hate each other lmao
At this rate, rrat posters will be left with nothing but homo collab as the only reason for Fauna leaving
>>91640009I mean that's definitely not right considering this is public https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfMRbViwNGo
>>91639967I personally think some project fell through and left her losing a fair bit of money, I have no evidence, but disputes over money are the common and most boring reasons for relationships of any kind to fall apart >>91639967
>>91639191give me the tldr, numberman
>>91640177JP and EN aren't the same, until someone else in EN pulls one out of their ass it has a little bit of legs.
>>91640024Indies hate Hololive
>>91640165>he thinks she's not going to throw shade on cover once on that side
>>91640165She's giving you what you want. She's lying to protect your blue dorito.
>>91640231I kiss them both
>>91640191God I hate the fact that this is almost certainly gonna end up being the closest to the truthIt's just gonna be money. We sit here thinking about and worrying about and wondering if things are getting better or worse or not, and almost certainly it's all just gonna be a money dispute in some way.
>endingNo...
NOOOO PLEASE DON'T END THE COLLAB I NEED YOU TWO
>Already endingNo... I loved this collab... Please don't go...
Why is every collab Fauna does fun?
Fauna officially passing off Hitman to Biboo...
>>91640191It's probably multiple projects that fell through and she just couldn't take it anymore.
last fauna biboo stream
>>91640242So your argument is specifically>No public EN ASMRs due to a permissions from managementI'm not sure I buy it, but if there's an argument to be made, it's because management is afraid of YT demonitizing one of the girl's channels.
>Fauna has passed the Hitman curse to BibooSasuga....
HITMAN BLOODY SUIT BEFORE GRADUATION
Don't you dare put that juju on her Fauna
SHE LOVES HER BALD HEAD
>>91639946There is a general cull, but that's still more than I expected for this collab, raid or not. 12k wasn't really just a waiting room since it was so delayed.
>>91640247Notice that no one relevant, no one that is over 2view, even cares about Holostars. Even vtubers that collab frequently with males won't go to bat for them.
>Biboo lives rent free in Fauna's head
>>91640018So you’re saying that everyone should be extremely parasocial to the point they abandon whatever qualms they have regarding their oshis’ behavior?
>>91640283If she's is really leaving over a money dispute then she's really retarded considering her indie persona is never going to be making as much money as Fauna
>>91640191One project alone wouldn't be it, but management constantly doing it would definitely be enough to drive someone to fuck off for sure, especially if it happened in short succession with complete bullshit reasons given. Throw that in with management choosing to deny whatever she wanted to do with mooms for BD and that would've been the last straw I guess.I now buy this rrat.
>>91639191what rss reader do you recommend
>>91640453I mean...
>>91640455It doesn't matter when she gets to keep 100% of it vs 50% (or more, for merch).
>>91640455Maybe not, but Fauna's never cared too much about minmaxing her income, she didn't bother shilling her last merch runs this year before they expired
>>91640165She was once considered one of the biggest pro separation members, so that would be pretty funny
i hate this
>>91640446It’s funny how hard this “ship” died right after Vesper got suspended. A-chan stopped pushing it and instead tried to do some half assed yuri ship with her until she left the company.
>>91640455It would be understandable if it's project cost related, though.If you want to make things, spend money, but then it falls through and they don't have some kind of insurance scheme going on? Shit would make you burn out faster than an oil tanker in a warzone.
>>91640591I love you peko tyan
>>91640493Just wanted to point out the usual homobeggar doublethink.
>>91640471she wanted to be an idol"management" wouldn't let herthey mocked her for itthey canceled everythingi believe it
Another collab over, and another day closer to January 3rd...
This is the only big issue I have with companies is the graduations. It's painful...
>>91640455Monetary commitments in this business tend to have emotional commitments attached.
>>91640610There's also the part that Nodoka barely exists like A-chan. She got no tie to any holomem too. Wtf is she even doing nowadays? Also no English too.
>>91640527That's the dirty secret of corporate vtubing, it's highly exploitative. Very few industries could get away with taking 50% of revenue like that from a performer. All vtuber companies give you is exposure and once you have that you've essentially maxed out the benefit but keep paying a steep cost, in many cases it makes financial sense to dip.
IRyS getting a fat raid
>>91640471Would be funny if Fauna actually had a lot of project ideas she wanted done and nothing ever came of them because of retarded Japanese bureaucracy, shitty managers, and last minute cancellations.
>green text seethe>green text babble>green text shitting myself>green text pointless statementHoly please take me seriously, i'm not a faggot
>>91640455>moneyI think it's not her pay but the repeated last-minute cancellations of her projects that she poured her money into. Management OK'd it but then they canceled it at the last minute because they missed some details or something. Happened with Pekora and many other holos. She got sick of it and decided to graduate. I don't think any holos are struggling with money but shit like this could burn you out.
>>91640806>Very few industries could get away with taking 50% of revenue like that from a performerLiterally every single entertainment industry does that if not worse
Guess I'll watch IRyS and try to forget the pain
EN5 needs to hire someone who's good at talking about random shit and can just yap forever. Fauna filled that role for me so I need a replacement.
>Biboo didn't raid Shiori's rebroadcastShe hates her...
>>91640806>he doesnt know how the music industry works
Love them both so much, forever
>>91640866They hired two actually alreadyThe only issue is that you need to have a very, VERY different interest range to be engaged compared to Fauna's interest range
>>91640866You don't deserve her, brand slave.
Man I love Fauna
>>91640455It's entirely possible that she just didn't feel like cover offered enough back to justify taking 50% of her income, taking some high percentage of her time on meetings and such, and permissions limiting game/song choice.
This Fauna Biboo collab was the first time that Fauna graduating actually felt real to me. This really fucking sucks.
>>91640806You know that normal singers got jackshit from their music, right? That's why they have to do concert tours or write their own music. Performers usually have the lowest share of revenue from the songs alone.
>>91639625It looks like a million small things followed by a more major disagreement that finally made her go "I like the idol thing, but I'm never gonna be THE idol, so I will just go somewhere I don't have to deal with all that crap to stream and have fun"
>>91640866CC but she's EU time streamer
>>91640806>Very few industries could get away with taking 50% of revenueanon....
>>91640806It's not some tiny hat hand rubbing scheme when you make lots of money in anything more people are involved and costs go up
>>91640952I genuinely don't think it's that simple only because, and I believe her words, she loves Hololive. I don't think them taking more money than she thinks is worth is something worth graduating to her because she is still fucking making money. Getting burnt by management being fucking retarded makes a lot more sense, and she just couldn't deal with it anymore like a bunch of other girls have
>Biboo is going to carry the legacy of Fauna playing hitmanFucking kino, passing the torch moment right there
>>91640191>>91640283It's highly unlikely that it is just going to be "just this one thing" reason. It'll more likely be a lot of things that have built up over the years
>>91639625>project shit>impostor syndrome after seeing her kouhais>Management sided with KroniiPick your poison
>>91640717>>91639191The reason why multiverses fail is because the player models they make look dogshit. If they want their metaverse to work, it should be inspired from Minecraft. Minecraft works best as a base for a metaverse is because aside from the creation part, the player design is very universal.
>>91641115*unlike other girls who have
>>91640918This was so hot
This Fauna graduation scares me. What if I watch her RM streams in the future and I don't like her anymore?
>>91641135I love how excited Biboo got over it, too.
>>91641265Skill issue.
>>91639480I am a millionaire and well invested so Mococo.
>>91641115>because she is still fucking making money.But at some point you gotta think>do I wanna make money while dealing with this stuff I don't like about it even if I'm good at it and like doing it?>or do I wanna just go and try it alone for a whileThe best allegory I can think of is the modern teacher shortage. There's fucktons of people who want to be teachers. Lots of them are good at it. But almost all of them are quitting in droves because they just can't fucking handle working in the hellscape of "low wage, 'we just assume your passion will make up the difference in quality of life we offer'" job prospects for teachers just entering the field.If the perspective is anything like that, which could happen if she got burned on projects enough, or got a bad manager for too long, it would make sense.
>>91641164oh god those squares are fucking hot
>>91641265That's what happened to coco for people. Don't go in expecting anything and you should be fine. Treat leaving hololive like entering hololive as a blank slate.
>>91641265The Fauna you've seen in 2024 is going to be the notFauna you see in 2025. Anyone saying otherwise was always an anti
>>91641156I think she gets more imposter syndrome when interacting with generally more involved in idol stuff holos, not just her kouhais. As much as she improved her singing, she knows she is still not up there, and probably never will.
Niji won, it's over
Does this effect cover
>>91641332The reason why it happened to Coco is because Coco and KSON were essentially two different people. KSON never fucking changed. She was still doing the same shit she was while she was streaming as Kson while still being Coco
>>91640943Maybe your right but Vtubing loses it's meaning to me outside hololive. I guess it's since I've been following the company since the azur lane Collab and bribing isn't by itself interesting to me so I care more about hololive then vtubers as a whole.
Saplings should move on to other holos. Fauna has passed the torch, we should respect her choice
>>91641265She didn't left YOU LEFT
>>91641265Ame and Aqua are still the same
>>91641364yes, everything will take longer now
>>91641265Depends, if you get lucky literally nothing will change. I don't feel like Fauna is really putting on a fake character so i don't expect her to change much. She has old notFauna streams you can go look at to see what she's like.
>>91641332>>91641265Coco and Kson are totally different people lol
>>91641352HOWEVER
>>91641431Bro your English reps... It's leave not left
>>91641265Then you won't watch her anymore. If it happens it happens, don't stress it too much. Just give her a chance and try to go in with a clear mind.
>>91641364Means more time for streaming
>>91641475People were fine with kson untill she joined vshojo desu.
>>91641352Stock horserace!
>>91641364Didn't know Cover works in Adult industries
>>91641265that's literally what is going to happen
>>91641465>if you get lucky literally nothing will changeI mean you got the best case scenario because your oshi went from>hellto>freedom in the fields of elysiumHard to predict what'll happen when someone's oshi is leaving from an objectively much happier position, you know
>>91641514You always default to that shit.
>>916413644 day work weeks are good but it won't increase fertility rates
>>91641514Project your fetish elsewhere
>>91641265you'll never get cute collabs like this again or fes or lives. It'll never be the fucking same
>>91641364More time for nips to watch streams. Some, if not most, Cover staff will have less time to get shit done leading to things taking even longer to get done.
>>91641364thats clickbaity is just for state employees
>>91641265That anxiety is normal, but I really don't think she's going to change much if at all. She'll probably stick as close to who she is now for a while at least, she seemed worried people wouldn't follow her.>>91641465She's not going to revert to the person she was 4 years ago, I don't think those streams are very relevant anymore. Not really that different from first year Fauna anyway
>>91641491IT LEFT LIKE FAUNA>>91641533will happen again with Shawndoe
>>91641364It's only for municipal workers, and the idea is to give young couples more time to fuck and have babies. it's not really about improving quality of life it's social engineering to boost demographics.
>>91641551Except Fauna clearly isn't happy with her position otherwise she wouldn't leave. I'm not saying Cover is bad, or Hololive is bad, but to say >objectively much happier positionIs clearly wrong
>>91639939saying 'its very understandable' to her makes my mind instantly move to money, that is the single most universal issue I could see, but I don't think its a worse contract because frankly she was still one of the bigger members in EN, and she has grown from her initial start.... perhaps it is as simple as she estimated what she'd make as an indy, brought it to cover and asked for a better contract, and they refused?I dunno, just seeinge reine say 'its very understandable'? 100% triggers my money sensors.
>>91641364That means nothing, they're supposed to have a 5 day work week but in reality it's a 7 day work week.
>>91641364nothing will happen because it would be very very dishonorable for the salaryman to not work
>>91641364Not going to work. You need to take away Women's "Rights" (privileges).
>>91641551I like Minto but Fauna's my oshi, so I get to go through this for a 2nd time. Part of the reason I'm not really apprehensive about it.
>>91641633Sorry, allow me to be more clear with my words. When I said>objectively much happier positionI meant that as in>Fauna's position is objectively much happier for her than Pomu's position was for herLike, I'm not saying that Fauna is satisfied, obviously that's untrue, but Fauna is leaving while saying she still loved being there. Pomu basically was telling her fans she was going to be gone for a year in advance and didn't seem all that sad to go, in comparison.
>>91641475Coco was a character Kson put on but fauna as others have stated isn't really character.
Be kind to saplings, people. Think about it, if one day your oshi is graduating, how would you feel?
>>91641740chu
>>91641333>The Fauna you've seen in 2024 is going to be the notFauna you see in 2025Interesting thought.Does that mean NotGigi from before is the same as Gigi now? Because if so, that's not a good sign
>>91641808>>91641814discordtards please
>>91641649Her uploading a song cover to notFauna, makes it seem like perm issues were also a problem.
>>91641792Mine already graduated.
>>91641808>>91641814Nijiseethe.
>>91641736Ah, my apologies then.
>>91641649Fauna rarely cared for money, so that's probably not that. It's also coming from Reine, and I don't think she would think money is a problem to consider.
IRyS 10k DORYAAAAAAAAAA
At least NotFauna and NotAme are finally collaborating, right? RIGHT?
>>91641833>>91641853thats literally leech behaviour tho, but its Biboo so thats basically her thing.
>>91639744If they do nothing with the concert portion or putting a digital version of the card game into the game, then yea its dogshit.If they put old 3d lives for view on there for a small price, and have new 3d live events there, and/or put in a digital card game minigame then it can do very well as a gathering place. Those who watch the 3d live there will check out the rest of the game naturally, and may meet up there for other things.But if they don't connect it in any way to the talents concerts/idol activities, its gonna be dogshit.
>>91641364Great Cover will be even more incompetent now
>>91641834NTA but eeeeeh it was a quick shitpost thing, if it was a real cover with real commissioned video that wasn't her doodle shitposting I'd believe you. If she comes out the fucking gate with a cover song, even, I'll change my mind
>>91641874Lol
is it true indies despise advent to an insane degree bc they thought hololive was finally dying and advent give it new life?
>>91641887
>>91641887How are you such a faggot, day in and day out?
>>91641792>if one day your oshi was graduating, how would you feel?I wouldn't be around to feel anything anymore because my cousin would be talking me down from drinking myself to death
>>91641831Really depends. Someone like Gura or Raora has to suppress their powerlevel to function in Holo, other people don't.
>>91639744they need to put an arcade room with all the holoindie slop, like those yakuza arcades
>>91641859Reine, despite being rich, also went to business school and has a background in that field. She's not some dumb socialite that doesn't know anything.
I am always impressed how quickly IRyS can forget how to play a game
>>91641831You're just a pathetic fag, so it's pointless to try and discuss this with you
>>91641927Advent stole their spot since all those indies are think they are infinitely more talented than the current advent
>>91641917It was a quick shitpost thing she managed to put together in less than 2 weeks, would take minimum 2 months with Cover, possibly like half a year given she was dealing with the more incompetent part of the management from the looks of it. That's the point.
>>91641927yes
IRyS 11k DORYAAAAAAAAA
have any of the EN girls done a watchalong of any of the alien films?
>>91641927Probably, would explain the overwhelming seethe FWMC get, Biboo being in second place but no where near to the same magnitude. Shiori and Nerissa constantly getting hit with homobegging in 3rd and 4th place.
>>91639874No, Lamy stop doing it, Pekora doesnt want to do hers, Noel still does them and Okayu they gave up on. My thinking is they are anal about it because cover is supposed to get some of that VOD money and you cant keep getting demonetized over ASMR. We already know some of they have gotten strikes and with Marine and Hachama they literally mentioned that management were on their asses for doing sketchy streams. Okayu might be demonitized so thats why management gave up on her or something.
>>91641927Basically yes. Indies will always hate Advent specifically, it's pretty sad.
>>91642111shiori and nerissa hate in the early days was insane, i believe it was worse than fauna and mumei got
>>91641955Yeah gura is way different then what she was. It was so odd knowing gura before hololive and then seeing her in hololive and how she acted made it feel like two different people.
What is that Niko post what is going on
>>91642114Dear god speak english please.
>>91641874i dont think they had much of a connection, but maybe they'll do an ears bleed karaoke together? Probably would be good algorithm-wise fo rboth of them.
>>91642169>imagebkard
>>91642144>i believe it was worse than fauna and mumei got>Mumei and Fauna had constant Doxing here and on other social media sitesYeah, I don't think so
>>91641927the whole of advent? Nah not even close, they like Biboo and Nerissa. Its literally just FWMC they fucking hate with all their guts. They cant fathom RPing and keeping it without being "real". Doesnt help the homos got dunked on and they never apologized.
>>91641649While money may be part of it I don't that's the main reason. It's probably that some projects that she was working on and paid for out of pocket for got shut down by management for stupid reasons and it pissed her off enough to leave. They fucked over her 3D live, and it doesn't look like her cover with Mumei will ever come out either. And who knows how many things there are that we don't know about.Remember Ina's Visa issues meant that she couldn't do any work for months, essentially fucking over a bunch of plans that she had made and costing her a bunch of money? If this is a regular occurrence with management I can see it wearing on the talents.
>>91640018The real joke is that this isn't just a muh parasocial GF streamer thing, this is the case everywhere. Creators get abandoned when they try to change tack on their current content - sometimes it works out like Joji where they manage to find a new audience, but that still doesn't change the fact that the old audience overwhelmingly bailed out.Inversely, this is probably why many high-profile scumfucks are never successfully cancelled; if they do what they've always done and stick to it, their audience is still getting exactly what they want, so they never have a reason to leave. Whereas if supposedly-good creators fuck up badly enough, their audience bails because that means the creator drastically changed a reason for their content's appeal.
fuck off cheebs
>>91641874>finally collaborating, right?
>>91641927its 100% true.
>>91642226>they like Biboo and Nerissa.You sure about that?
>>91642212The milk
>>91642144If you think tha then you are a fucking retarded newfag. The doxxing on Fauna and Mumei was x3 of what any Advent got.
We should shoot Cheebs who's with me
>holostars is hololive
>>91642144No, nothing is worse than what those two got. For Fauna it never even stopped.
>>91641874Doki will force them to
>>91642206not my fault you are fucking ESL and cant understand a little misspelling. I get it bro, when i read Japanese and there is error it throws me the fuck off.
>>91641364I can save Mio and Botan eggs
>>91642144Mori and Kiara > Fauna and Mumei > Shiori and Nerissanone are even close to the next tier up either
>>91642349Grammar errors are not misspellings, stop vomiting all over your keyboard
I remember when fauna carried EN during the long drought between EN2 and 3... Now she's the first EN to go that matters...
>>91642274sucks that she's going after peo now
>>91642417Ame?
>>91642378I don't even see the Nerissa hate. It's more Shiori than anything. And even Shiori isn't nearly as bad as what Fauna got on the daily for 3 fucking years
>>91642417kys sister
>>91642294Aye
>>91642417>too newfag to remember Ame's golden era
>>91642358why are you a chef? only women stay in the kitchen
>>91641927hololive does something special that is very hard for indies to replicate, a space where women can create online content together without men while being extremely successful. It's the company's competitive advantage in the vtuber/online market. Before Advent debuted, there was a feeling that holoEN might give up on this advantage with the collabs and debuting two Holostars gens. For them, it felt like holoEN was going to become "just another vtuber corpo". Then came Advent and it repudiated all of it. It might have been accidental, but I kind of respect FWMC for being the lightning rod to take on hate.It's also what makes FWMC winning VOTY so much sweeter.
12k DORRRYYAAAAA
IRyS 12k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>91642396sorry your brain doesnt auto correct English automatically anon.
>>91642502GemRyS will be the next power couple of Hololive
>>91642442Oh shit I forgot about her but then again I was only a fan of gura when myth debuted.
>>91642467Nah I never watched ame after watching a few of her stream post debut because I can't stand her voice.
>>91642502If you put their heads together you'd make a wind tunnel
>>91642562IRyS carefully avoids collabing with lolis so as to not expose her power level
>>91642231>3D liveCome on anon, Fauna was never doing a 3D live.
>>91642231maybe, but there aren't going to be any projects at all as an indie, so its going from the possibility of management fucking up projects, to just not doing projects beyond super amateur hour unless she can rely on dooby (and I dont believe she lives anywhere near her), and also letting go of a persona you've been for 2 years and to some extent the relationships you've been comfortable with at a working level.But we don't know how long the situation like that has gone on if it is true. If she's losts like 300k+ in USD over sunk costs in that shit over the years and the merch revenue doesn't quite make up for the stress of a particularly incompetent manager, I can see saying fuck it. For EN more than JP, Merch is probably their main source of revenue and 3d lives, or 3d events at all, are their main way to get the news out there to get as many people buying as possible.
I remember the doxx spam after Advent debut…
>>91642231>If this is a regular occurrence with management I can see it wearing on the talents.Most of the girls put up with that stuff because there are things they want to achieve that they need cover for, like a sololive or something.If at some point with all the cancelled and rejected projects that flips and Cover starts being the thing that's preventing you from achieving your goals. Then the question starts to become: why are you staying?
>she's gonna collab with the MALES!>all the indies you hate are going to collab with her!!>she'll stream on TwitchWhy are there so many shitposters, schizos, and other regulars(?) trying real hard to make it seem like she is going to completely change her content and that it will only get worse? Are you all actually afraid that she's going to do better as an indie? Do you think Fauna is the same person she was 4years ago? I honestly wonder if these tactics are working on anyone.
>>91642378Nah, more like: Mori>Kiara=Faumei>Shiori and Rissa.
>>91642738cant aim higher huh?
>>91642723>>91642696>>91642562They are basically fucking irl with all the off stream hanging out, have they done a single 1 on 1 collab? I dont remember.
>>91642723This will be the first time that she's got access to the unholy trifecta>Speaks English>Lolicon body>Around her and willing, physically and mentallyShe's not gonna hold on for long, we've already seen her gush over that little girl's flat chest and they weren't even in person for that one
>>91641785Thanks you Loli rock
>>91642770People really fucking hate Fauna for some reason
>>91642770Because they think they'll make people angry by doing it. That's it.
Irys...
>>91642768No one is saying they didnt get doxx'd, they did but to say they got more than Myth or FauMei? Lmao anon.
>>91642489Yes and no. Advent brought life back into HoloEN, but homo issue got mostly resolved before their debut. Local homocollabers already got burned enough, dumb and dumber were on their way out. Advent debut wasn't that magical event that purified the branch from homo corruption, they just lucked out debuting into recovering ecosystem.
>>91642770>why do shitposters shitpost
>>91642826>people
>>91642770Here this chart should explain it, adapt it to vtubers
>>91642805Nope, nothing can beat this
>>91642809IRyS hasn't done a one on one with anyone in Advent or Justice
>>91642853they helped speed up and jumpstart that recovery greatly. Without them it wouldn't have really felt like a recovery even with the graduations, because they breathed new life into the branch. They are still a mainstay of streaming activitiy.
>>91642853Imagine if like Shiori and Nerissa both did homocollabs, it would have revitalized it.
>>91642853This reads like your really trying to throw cold water on how much of a success Advent debut was and still is.
>>91642770>AfraidNo, just no holo has done 'better' after leaving so far, and it's unlikely for Fauna to be the one to break the trend. >The sameNo, but much like hanging with different groups will change you, the EN indie scene IS full of cancer.
>>91642931Biboo said they're cooking a dmc collab when IRyS finishes dmc
Thanks god Magni and Vesper died.
>>91642489That's not really what's special about Holo. There are indie circles, like that shondo group, who don't hang with men either. What makes Holo unique is the culture, where the girls aren't whoring it up for views or attention, don't talk about politics or current events or other RL shit, and have a circle of other girls they can rely on to be of the same mindset.
>>91642770>I honestly wonder if these tactics are working on anyone.I wouldn't doubt it. A bunch of people here are drones that will follow the shitpost narrative. It's easy to get peer pressured when you live in a bubble.
HolospyPekora being graceful and understanding while not getting an award at The Game Awards is being used as an example of the right way to deal with loss in comparison to the Black Myth Wukong director, who apparently was malding and went on an angry rant about how they had planned to get Game of the Year two years in advance and even written speeches beforehand
>>91640242ERB did one publicly months ago so I doubt it is a problem
>>91643000How can you collab in DMC?
>>91643040Link?
>>91643003you'retalking to male feminist or a roastie, either way don't expect consistent logic
>>91642997>no holo has done 'better' after leaving so farAme is doing better. Honestly the sample size for this is very little so I don't know why anons bring it up so often.
>>91643030Could have picked any JP person. Being polite is their thing
>>91643030Chinese
>>91643000>when IRyS finishes dmcMy inner gremlin is screaming at me that this means Biboo is going to have a Vergil gushfest on stream with her about this because those games don't have multiplayer (unless Bijou is cracked enough to know about the single instance of DMC Multiplayer where you can hook a second controller up in the DMC3 boss fight where you fight with Vergil and P2 controls Vergil out of nowhere)
Holoslop mogged once again by Nijisanji on the stock exchange. The race is over.
>>91642931based
>>91643076Ame isn't doing better she's literally the same.
>>91643030Pekora could have won the award if the votes take a greater weight
>>91642997Why are they like this? Don't they realize a large # of hololive members don't want to Collab with men. Plus holostars can join VCr or whatever.
>>91643004a male using a Female avatar even won "Mr. Vtuber" lmao. they are delusional.
>>91641740chu chu chuuuuuu
>>91643030Damm someone from the industry actually mad at this ?
>>91643030>how they had planned to get Game of the Year two years in advance and even written speeches beforehandI don't use this lightly but I feel this deserves it.cringe
>>91643030Well when the GOTY is Astro Bot, I can understand the maldingBut chink souls wasn't that great anyway compared to the ER DLC
>>91643128More streams than before, and most of her fans seem to be happier.
>>91643076This, both Sana and Ame were checked out by the time they left. Fauna is going to be the first time an EN girl has been plucked from hololive in their 'prime'
>>91643144A male using a female avatar won the gamer award too
>natty 13KIs IRyS the most popular EN now with Fauna's deletion?
>>91643004All these bitching and yet they don't bother to watch even their ex-holostars
>>91643030>chink thinks he is owed something yet againGuess mass voting on all the voting-based awards out there isn't enough to satisfy their nationalism.
>>91643030Honestly pekora had not chance because most of judges don't know Japanese and don't care about streamers.
>>91641265Funny, it’s what happened to me and Polka. Adored her when she was another vtuber with upd8. I was excited when it was leaked that she was one of the girls joining JP5. But I realized that despite what I enjoyed (she did mostly edited content when she was someone else) that things were not the same. I don’t really follow Polka these days. Tried watching notLulu and notCoco and could never get into it. Despite what people say, it isn’t the same, even when they join Hololive. I wish Fauna well, but there is no reason to continue watching her as another vtuber. Sucks, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.
Haven't been here in a week because of PoE2, anything interesting happen?
>>91643155more streams compared to 2023/24 Ame, but overall her content density or novelty ain't even close to debut -> early 2022 Ame
>>91642853SNORyS fought the war but Mumei and Gura never made a full recovery from those days, we needed Advent to supplement the tired and battle weary
>>91642793No Kiara absolutely got more hate especially for doing nothing actually wrong. The most you could say she was annoying. Nothing justifies the amount of seethe.
>check out the fauna clone by pomumama because tits and voice>overwatch slop, valorant slop, marvel rivals slop all on debut weekholy grim
>>91643242The Promise Musical happenedGonna warn you now: It's much more>Anniversary Live (with a plot and some acting between songs)than it is>Full on musical with a coherent story being told through music
>>91642826Anon, you are posting in the reason
>>91643264Gura didn't stream for shit, shitposter-kun
>>91643004>cool events like thisHaven't they realized the 'coolness' of the event might be coming from the fact they AREN'T in it and there is even a control group ongoing to prove this for them
>>91643247Heck I think notAme's output is about on par if not quite matching early Gura
>>91643242BAU BAU won
>>91643294Nigga they hated Fauna long before the first sapling ever touched this threadThere was a reason /uuu/ did not make threads when she didn't stream and it was because they could not survive without being literally ALL posts that were getting banned because of the sheer number of shitposters who were on sight against that woman
>>91641364They should just encourage western white men to migrate to Japan. You’ll have your fertility problem solved and in a few generations the nips will look as white as they wish they were.
>>91643273Kiara got a lot of shit, but it's mostly a handful of personalized, long time antis, she stepped on less toes than Mori and even if things calmed for Mori here, she's still Twitter's chewtoy, catching weird strays like that nigger who made a takedown vid or that fat grifter
>>91643287I'v always wondered how all these tiny vtubers survive with so little income.
>>91642853To an extent I agree, however, Advent being what it was ensured that holoEN maintained its course and did not "course-correct". An ERB-like in Advent would have given a lot of ground to the beggars. Instead, Advent showed that holoEN was going to stick with what made hololive successful since COVID.>>91643003I'll admit I was trying to go for the "simplest" explanation rather than dealing with nuance. Your explanation of hololive culture is much more complete.
>>91643161Fauna is not in her prime. She never got as low as Sana or Ame, but she's clearly been losing interest this whole year. She was involved in fewer events, generally seemed more isolated, stopped going to off collabs (she used to be one of the most frequent to appear at those), took more breaks, etc. Then you have this uninspired graduation tour right now., if you can even call it that. In terms of CCV numbers maybe she was at her prime, but otherwise, no.
>>91643076>Honestly the sample size for this is very little so I don't know why anons bring it up so often.Because most Holofags, even if they love Fauna or other Holomem, don't want them to succeed when they leave. Them succeeding after the exit will destroy the walled garden narrative. Even if Fauna, or whoever for the matter, leaves and makes content that is twice as better, they wouldn't watch her. You'd be surprised how many people are brainwashed by brands.
>>91643377They just don't make it their main job. It's tough though as not making it their main job makes it hard to climb higher, but without another source of income they can't afford to try at all.
>>91643030Imagine if the award was based solely on votes, chink would have got the win they don't deserve. I have already said yesterday that any award based solely on voting like the vtuber award doesn't worth shit. Every Award should be against a masses group of mindless people that only vote for the team without regard if their team even deserve to win.
>>91643287the heck is VOLs
>>91643465When I say prime, I mean her numbers are great and she's been streaming as if everything has been normal for 6 months prior to her departure. Compare that to Ame or Sana
>>91643370I just don't think you are paying attention then.
>>91643426Random indie/ligger shitter seethe out of nowhere.
>>91642770>I honestly wonder if these tactics are working on anyone.Not for anons here, but for the people in the community from twitter/discord/reddit that lurk here, or get fed second hand info from here, it absolutely works. They are gullible as shit and believe anything they are told, even years later. No amount of evidence will convince them otherwise either
>>91643287Still streams more than Fauna
>>91641927I could see why indie dudes would hate them. They proved once and for all that CGDCT is prime in vtubing. You even saw some small corpo and indis do girls-only events with one another to mimic Hololive’s success. It’s no wonder male vtubers probably seethe over them. They’re being forced into celibacy against their will. I think there’s a word for that.
>>91643097Bloody palace is couch co-op, that's what Biboo was talking about
>>91643377>rich families>NEET lifestyle that requires near zero income>day job (rare)>boyfriend takes care of them>third worlder where $100 a month makes you middle class
>>91643073https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tNaF7e9XRYw
>>91643287>fauna cloneOn a related note, I really hope notFauna gets a design from Asagi-mama
>>91643468Sure thing, retard.
>>91643468She's not going to succeed so there's no point in worrying. People are not going to stop watching Hololive talents for a fucking quitter
Hey faggotsI'm gonna fuck Koseki Bijou and her flat fudging chest and there's nothing you can do about it
>>91642274Damn this woman is vile
>>91643522The problem with TGA is it's 90% to their jury, 10% votes and their jury has a bunch of retards in it including publications that don't even cover video game news in the first place.
>>91643618I wrote this btw.
>>91643522I mean, monkey won the player's choice award, so you're correct(Which is funny, because it was that game vs 3 gachas and the Elden Ring DLC)
>>91642236Reminds me of when Nostalgia Critic stopped doing his reviews for some bizarre scripted internet show. Shit was weird.
>>91642853I agree with you but Advent being the way they are did solidify the branch direction/philosophy.
>>91643468Kill yourself. Both this thread and /uuu/ are on board with notFauna, even if it's painful
>>91643465>she's clearly been losing interest this whole yearYes, and at this point we can speculate it's all because of management fucking her over on various things. She still managed to deliver some of her best content in that time, while inclining to pretty stable 5view status.
>>91643618>fudgingFocus on the stream IRyS
>>91643468You are overestimating the amount of people that do that. Look at Aqua.
>>91643652Nah
>>91642144The shit Mumei dealt with actually invaded streams more than once. Aside from Kiara having to delete dox in her chat during their Minecraft collab, someone in her Slither.io stream decided to spread dox with his in-game username.
>>91643528She hasn't really been streaming like normal though. Her streams this year have been less frequent, shorter, and her breaks have been longer. This started happening around the time she dropped schedules. 2023 Fauna is peak, at least before the JP arc.
>>91641364One of the main reasons this would be pointless if adopted on a national scale,>Show you're a team player by coming in for overtime to get these projects done>Those who are not team players do not advance>This won't stop nip men from being too tired to fuck their wives.>This won't cause nip men to go out and find a spouse when they're more dedicated to their work and hobbiesWhat needs to be done is more on a cultural level than a work one.
>>91643030For as good as Blackmyth was, wasn't it still worse than Elden Ring and DMC5? Unless, Blackmyth gameplay execution was better or equal with either (it wasn't), there wasn't a chance of it winning something like GOTY. Only way would have been for story experience to overshadow gameplay, but it wasn't there.
>>91643529no, I'm paying attention enough to know Kiara hate is pretty centralizedthere's definitely some passive dislike that doesn't encroach into level of hate that kept her somewhat less beloved than most Myth mainstays, but "hate" comes from fairly distinct and well known sources
>>91643684>Look at AquaShe's graduated. What's there to see?
>>91643004No one who actually watched the holoGTA can hold this position. Not earnestly.
https://x.com/koganeiniko/status/1868445938152304815
>>91643703Deadbeat....you really shouldn't talk about shit you don't know.
>>91641364More people WFH = more JP stream watchersEven if just for government
>>91643699Her average amount of streams didn't change much
>>91637217
Today, I will remind them.
>>91642853Advent does coincide with dumb and dumber leaving like a month after their debut so you still had people frustratingly bringing up HoloSalt on a routine basis. With Advent basically shutting the doors on da boiz and Kronii and Mori seemingly ignoring the rest of their precious little boiz, it’s no wonder why some would think Advent ‘changed’ the culture that HoloEN was evolving into.
>>91643030>how they had planned to get Game of the Year two years in advance and even written speeches beforehandHonestly deserve to lose from this alone
>>91643771oh, you're just trying to bait Holo vs Holo, should've known bettervary up your phrasing a little bit
>>91643699Compare thet to Sana and Ame, or even Aqua and you get the point being made
>>91643648She thought he could make it with "real" content, but he isn't as good as he hyped himself to be, and had to fall back into what made him safe money.
>>91643076Ame isn't doing -better-, not from a direct content comparison standpoint. If you think she would've only gotten 12k revealing her family members as a holo, you're nuts. Rather, she hasn't fallen off significantly, and really, as long as she doesn't do something absolutely stupid like Kson did when she joined vshojo and did the whole 'coping' spiel, I doubt she would fall off much more.
>>91643819
>>91641364it affects nothing, now you "only" have to work 4 days a week but if you don't come in like everyone else on friday and saturday you get harrased and ridiculed into the cuck corner and never advance.
>>91642446Nerissa catches strays for being KFP, plus I think there’s something about bird-themed ENs that inherently sets schizos off. It’s just that there’s nothing bigger than that to push, so it’s not on the same level as Shiori or her bird senpais.
>>91643702I would have considered ER the GOTY out of those, but I disagree with DLC taking that award.
>>91643813Covering Jelly in kisses!
>>91643750I doubt anything they can say about homos in GTA would actually be particularly interesting. I'll bet the most exciting moments for them will also include holomem being present and the conversation itself won't be particularly interesting. That is of course assuming they even watched it in the first place.
>>91643842I'm sorry that you think twitter losers clowning Mori's music is somehow worse than people posting Kiara getting sexually assualted for laughs.
>>91639480Mori
>>91643867Oh. Yea, pure orange seethe. It's why I stopped using the 'log back in the day and I've never gone back.
>>91642927…and yet, for some reason no one really knows who she is. Not relevant in the vtuber world and is basically considered a sidekick for a minor streamer from Trash Taste. She’s just some weird anomaly stuck in between vtubing and fleshtubing but not particularly relevant in either. But she’s sick tho.
>>91640472found the rss feed https://coveredge.cover-corp.com/en/feedfor now I just use feeder since I don't want to self host shit
>>91643892I mean I honestly don't disagree with the actual resultThat bitch ass Astrobot game was basically just Mario Galaxy with a bazillion particle effects and you know what, Mario Galaxy was a damn good game
>>91643699It barely dropped. She still maintained like 15 streams a month, in the past she had at most around 20, usually in 15-20 range all the same. She had tons of shorter streams in the past too.
>>91642927Ah yes, yet another moment where ennacuck exposed themselves as an unprincipled shitposting fuckwit.
>>91643996After seeing the Wukong guy's meltdown I'm kind of glad Astrobot won, since it seemed like he really loved gaming, at least.
>>91643627That is still far better than being votes only. Votes only will make the competition into a voting craze, with people telling fans to spam votes or even promise a reward for it. It becomes such a competition that the original intent of it is lost
>>91643996>coping phase
>>91643154Sony slop was always gonna win. The entire industry runs on nostalgia and Playstation is makes their little fanboy hearts flutter, even if they mostly make cinematic ‘experiences’ that barely count as games these days.
>>91643004Who participates was always a simple math equation. If stars were invited, how many holos would participate? Would members like Miko, Mio, Korone, Subaru, and Pekora join? How many holos wouldn't bother? At which point, how successful can holoGTA be if the biggest members don't even bother showing up?
>>91643976NEWFAGGOT
>>91644116I love Phase and Jelly
>>91644116Brother the only horse I had in that race was that I thought it would be really fucking funny if Balatro won because that motherfucker would post the fucking Jimbo plushie again, nothing I gotta cope about
>>91643961anon, there's only so many times "make a retarded non-sequitur argument" into "deflect into fanbase" gonna work and I've been around for too long, you can chill with the (You)s
What do you think of these 3D models?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elbI6eFF0lg&t=3781
>>91643627Yeah I'm fine with 90% jury but some of the people chosen as jury are questionable at best
>>91644107I think it's equally flawed and that all awards shows are worthless on their own merits. The only reason to watch TGA is the reasons Pekora gave, video game news and they perform a bit of music.
It's funny seeing the technology in the Alien game is all from the 80's
>>91644168Traitos all
>>91643867
>>91644168>that fucking music cue when the models drop in
>>91644168They look fine.
>>91644177Who even makes up the jury? Like if they had only game creators vote it would make some sense.
>>91643155She only has like 3 streams last week ? Like yeah it’s better than no stream but that is not like a lot and 2 of those were YT while 1 was on twitch technically cut down that amount if you don’t want change platform. I am going give her a few months so she can fix her endless internet problem, but I wouldn’t say her doing better, just the same.
IRyS watched the old Alien movie with some of the EN girls. She didn't say which ones though.
>>91644107No actually I think it's far better to be votes only because at the very least it has value of showing what games the general public is most interested in, unlike the "jury" method where it's mostly an indication of who in the industry wishes to shill this year
>>91644284Game journalists so you know how that wenthttps://thegameawards.com/voting-jury
>>91644284Journalists, not game journalists just unrelated journalists from political rags.
>>91644327Probably because there are only two choices>all JP girls and in personor>Piracy over Discord
>>91644284Games journalists mostly, though this year they added journalists for publications that have nothing to do with video games (LA times) and groups that are more focused on advocacy than any form of journalism. Some really weird choices.
>>91644378Could have gone to Mori's house to watch it with Biboo or something
>>91637263they're afraid of their fans. It's not a real choice
>>91644372>>91644376why are they so racist and misogynistic?
>>91644415
>>91644415Oh yeah should've said "All EN girls who live in JP and in person," forgot how that could be confusing
>>91644415Mori's house is slowly turning into HQ for the overseas EN girls
>>91644475wut?
Hey Otomo did you get your BDay merch?https://x.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/1868496788052709652https://x.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/1868496788052709652https://x.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/1868496788052709652
>>91644510not meant to be a reply
https://x.com/googlejapan/status/1868506335672766954Hoshimatic SuiSay is an android CHAD
>>91644527Shit, dude, I literally bought it before I knew what it was.
>>91644168After the Holo shading I saw in the latest solos all the rest looks extremely cheap in comparison.
>>91644505sounds familiar
>>91643767yea, mine
>>91644576uh oh Biboo look out
>>91644551Nothing beats stock android when it comes to versatility.
IMMERRED HATE
Looking back at my finances this year:>Bills>Filled up my Roth IRA>bought a lot of Hololive merch>went to Hololive events when possible>that's itI can't tell if this is a good or bad thing considering how limited that means the rest of my social spending was
>>91643294Part of the reason this thread latched onto her was a response to all the shitposting and hate she got, it was extremely excessive for no reason.
>>91644551She did a MV for Google, like the brand?
>>91644415Biboo off-collab housewarming party probably before the end of the year. Maybe even a Christmas special stream.
ennacuck... your bot is broken again
>>91644284How do you determine who is a "game creator"? Does each employee at a game studio get a vote? Do only the programmers get a vote? What about composers, artists, QA, designers, quest writers, motion capture artist, motion capture technicians, voice actors, etc? Then it'll become a "numbers" game where the bigger studio is going to get more votes. We'd hope that people would both nominate and vote for the best of each category, but we might end up with a League of Legends situation where people just nominate their friends/colleagues/ex-coworkers.We've also seen how some game creators can be pretty delusional about their games. Monkey game is one, but there's also Starfield/Bethesda stuff. I still remember those final Bethesda E3 conferences. That crowd was really something.
>>91644717Is this a bot?
>>91644717>they are so talented and amazing>yet couldn't succeed /lig/ and homobeggers are one and the same.
>>91644717>>91643004Already posted by someone else in the thread.
>>91643867I kneel chimkin, to this day schizo's are still seething
Reine is cute when she's having fun with video games. All the other times too, but I really like listening to her get excited over games.
hang on this isn't global
>>91644859The ones on the left was raised without a father figure please understand.
>Kronii won't say to keep in touch in their last Promise collabGrim.
>>91644917Brother posting from the future or some shit?
>>91644859Kronii is hiding her erection
If there's one thing Holo only fans and Mint/Doki fans can agree on?Hating niggas with UOs at concerts
>>91644766Still better than journalists who mostly fanboy their favorite studios/console makers.
>>91644717>They did so amazing in the vtuber GTA = still no eyes on them >B-But it would work if they leech of the girls
>>91645103Didn't Mint//Doki explicitly allowed the use of UOs
>>91644551Intern leaked the ad playlist a few days ago https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLkq-mu9c_kaYpAfrCB5elIyEpcvkL8DkSeems like google is going all out on this to be making ads for both Insta and YT
>>91645158YesBut when the UOniggers found that they weren't being socially shamed for being around, they desired to push the boundaries even further to get that thrill of being socially shamed back, it seems
I've seen several chest burst bodies here. Does that mean there's more than one Alien now?
>>91644917Yeah, because they're dating.
>>91645236It is possible that the alien situation has developed not necessarily to our advantage
/uuu/ is melting down
>>91645284no, but they are discussing melt sandwiches
>>91645157The girls are afraid the overwhelming charisma DA BOIS will exude will steal all their existing fans
>>91645284yuroplings dont own air conditioner?
>>91645236there's an entire nest in the reactor the game drops you into, the motion sensor goes crazy
>>91645284You do realise the overlap between /uuu/ and /uuu2/ is high right, and we know you're lying right?
>>91645284How do we accelerate their melting?
>>91644859I think the angling of Fauna and Mumei towards one another is more interesting
>>91645403I dunno man them thinking she actually posts in their thread and arguing about it doesn't seem normal
>>91645467No, melting down is what happened in /gem/ during the collab
My advice to Cover:Hire more girlfailures please
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1868529508808364390https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1868529508808364390she's really having a hard time pushing these ticket sales
>>91645536>girlfailuresWhat's this? menhera like rushia?
>>91645549seems fine to me
>IRyS: "I really don't plan on this being a long stream today, sorry">IRyS: "Yeah just like, three or four hours of gameplay today is what I'm expecting"Her understanding of stream length is just so disjointed with the rest of her branch (except for the rock she's lusting after)
>>91645570More like this
>>91645549Why people call you "squirmbeat"?
>>91645549All EN girls dream is riding on this concert. If it doesn't sell, Cover will likely reconsider any planned EN lives moving forward
>>91644168low budget
>>91645549Any confirmed guest?
>>91645674>All EN girls dream is riding on this concertlollmao only mori will ever this opportunity
>>91645533lemme guess, the pakifag is upset again?
>>91645587What's the deal with this site and why does it keep doing that?
>>91645656jailbirds save your oshi...
>>91645709how do they get better quality models than high budget in-house models that niji makes?
>>91644717LIZ-CHAN TASUKETE
>>91645867100%
>>91645855Would this actually happening be the one thing that could turn /#/ against notFauna?
HAHAHAHAHA this fucking whore
>holo x google CollabNijikekeks our Google sponsorship...
>>91645874niji is more like no budget since they'll fire the outsourced modelers without paying them
>>91645924Nothing can turn me away outside of her literally getting married
>>91645549>Rehearsal for today…done!! B} then stream you lazy whore
>>91645924Nah, it'd end up being like jellyfag, except 10 times as many
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1868521807667757108?Bijoo...
>>91646042kek
>>91646022Leaving Holo to join fucking Phase would cause me to seriously question her intelligence.
>>91646042beejoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGusxQVTvakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGusxQVTvakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGusxQVTvak
>>91646042someone post the Mori tweet at HoloEN Official
>>91646042Is this on purpose? How many times has it happened already?
>>91646042kek, Intern-kun can't decide whether to use Bijou or Biboo
>>91645832SEAmonkey…
Why is biboo like this?
wtf
>>91644717
>>91646170ESL as that post is, he's not wrong
>>91646196elbows are very sexual
>>91646216>he's
>>91646196>>91646206Okay that actually got a laugh out of me
>>91646216see you the day you get BTFO faggot
Oh no, ERB is joining Minecraft Monday
ENTER WATAME
>>91646042Kekimus maximus
>>91646286It's okay she fucks off after an hour due to motion sickness anyways
>>91646307Biboo is a literal baby
>>91646286She's basically MIA in large collabs
>>91646213lose their fanbase, homosisters are really retarded
Fauna actually left for fucking phase thats insane....
>IRyS: "Let's give up on the Flare"IT'S OVER ELF FAGS
>>91646307I love my oshi kozeki bijoo
>>91646286>probably no biboo>erbsigh...
>>91646368...out of ten!
The homos vod got nuked due to them being careless about reflective silverware. If this affects the girls' cam streams I hope their segments at expo gets axed due to unforeseen circumstances
>>91646533we've had reflection yabs in hololive before, it's nbd. mori once showed her full on naked feet.
>>91645868Either they're trickling out the tickets or some scalpers are canceling their tickets
>>91646533which vod?
>>91646558You forgot haachama and that entire little mini arc
>>91646286i wish for her to fuck off the MC stream, i had hope Gura would fucking join with no Biboo there.
>>91646519Didn’t Biboo confirm on last week Minecraft monday that she will also help this week ?
>>91646584I love the monkey mask she used
>>91646603She confirmed today that she will try, but internet hort
>>91646584or Ollie's ugly face with chinaman hat.
>>91646442This is new
>>91646584Chammers, Ollie, Aki
