shondo cumflation?

Good morning Shondopolis ^_^

I’m a fucking loli

>>91651405
That's fucking nice

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>>91651405
That's illegal, mario

Goodnight Shondopolis!
>>91651184
twasnt me

Has shondo ever posted face? I know she fleshposts a decent amount on her alt twitter but I try not to follow it much because fleshposting as a vtuber is gross.

>>91651790
No, but yes

>>91651790
That bait is not gonna work mister. I suggest you stop horsing around. ^__^

>>91651831
Not bait, just want to know if I should follow her alt or if I'll get flashbanged by her actual face.

Hate when the illusion is broken

vr meetup when

>>91651861
no, you won't

>>91651861
You won't see her post her face, she also hates immersion breaking

>>91652018
despite doing it on a weekly basis

>>91651869
I'd kill everyone there(in vr)

she should post face more often

>>91652018
>she also hates immersion breaking
>fleshposts including whole body frequently

I don't think she does Anon.

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>>91652366
hope this helps

>>91652411 (me)
in case it wasn't clear the point is you can choose to not look instead of bitching about it

>>91652411
I don't see how that changes anything that I said.

>>91652018
>she also hates immersion breaking
She sexpests other women IRL constantly and always thirsts over other vtubers RTX.

>>91652444
>tells somone to fucking read
>can't read themselves
Are you retarded?

>>91652472
>>91652510
it's a choice that someone makes to follow the account where they would see any of that stuff.
>erm well what about handcam streams? i'm very intelligent
simply don't watch them

>>91652530
I replied to an anon saying she didn't like immersion breaking by pointing out she does it all the time.

Why are you replying like I'm bitching about it?

Are you stupid?

yeah shes gay

Just checked the replies to her recent tweets, not a single husband in any of them where she was interacting with the randoms. Everyone giving her the silent treatment.

she also liked sevens tweets tonight, if you arent getting likes regularly then youre never going to make it

>>91652579
she doesn't like immersion breaking for the people that want to keep it. hence why she only keeps that stuff to the alt that tells you exactly what to expect in the bio. she explained this shit already on stream. you're breaking your own immersion at that point because you have every opportunity to avoid it

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lol irl...

>>91652812
Her putting it out there at all, alt or not, is immersion breaking.

If a vtuber wants to actually keep the illusion up they'd not have an alt at all nor would they fleshpost anywhere.

>>91652934
then go watch someone that doesn't do that if you're so bothered by alts that clearly tell you what you're in for

I hate her so much. She's the perfect woman for me and I'm so glad I found her. <3

>>91651405
I dont fucking care

>>91652934
this is Shondopolis you’re talking about. Shoggas will do anything to convince themselves the illusion is still going. Hope this helps

>>91652018
>She hates immersion breaking

Lol, lmao even. Any type of fleshposting is immersion breaking. She's lightened up on that opinion since her early chuuba days, but that's still cope if you think she thinks that. Funny thing, if you go back far enough on her twitter, you can still find fleshposts from before she became a vtuber. No face though, so don't try digging for it.

>>91654055
Quit horsing around

>>91653101
How much copium are you on? I think i need to get on some as well

Hello, shoggers. When is Shondo coming back?

>>91654282
Shoon, very

>>91654282
When ZMan gets back from his trip! ^__^

>>91654241
This is what happens when you finally quit the stuff. Accept that you both love and hate her or keep huffing the copium.

>>91654282
Sometime this week

>>91645247
What is this? I'm in public and don't have earphones with me

>>91654391
Oli ASMR

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I love her!

>>91647066
I love her in spite of her flaws, but i do want those flaws gone, at least the especially harmful(to the heart) ones

>>91654554
The biggest problem with this marriage is that we simply cannot correct her, because to her we become expendable the moment we become bothersome.

>>91655746
Pathetic lot

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>>91647642
Thanks
>>91655934
True

Stop taking the stripper seriously. Realize that you mean nothing to her other than a paycheck. She would never stoop so low as to enter a real relationship with any of her viewers or any vtuber watcher. Maybe when she was dirt poor but now she has cash and an inflated ego. She is out of your league. She would never settle for anything other than a richer, taller model of a partner. She is simply a woman, nothing more. Just enjoy the show and smile and nod at the incel pandering like when she pretends that she wants to be with a man who is fat, or that she doesn't care if you have poor hygene. Sit back and laugh along. The same goes for her friends.

>>91656195
I've never given her money

>>91656195
real

>>91656195
She used to want us to improve and used to encourage us

>>91657940
you won't improve either way when you keep blaming a schizo for your problems, and you would have said she was lying back then too

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slut

i will never join her discord
no matter what psychological tricks she uses
i don't care about twitter drama and you faggots

>>91654055
> No face though, so don't try digging for it.
You haven't dug deep enough.

>>91659811
>twitter

>>91656195
true too bad to many shoggas are delusional

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why can't i fill this cute little thing with my seeds... it's unfair

I believe and love Shondo with all my heart. She told us that she wouldn't be here without us and same goes for us, we wouldn't be /here/ without her.
I'll admit this is not a conventional marriage. Marriage is not perfect, but no marriage ever is. Sometimes we have ups and sometimes we have downs. It's important for us to stay loyal and do our best and she'll also be loyal and do her best. We will fall short and that's okay so long as we always get back up and try again and again. As long as we keep open and genuine communication we can always sort out the issues and be stronger afterwards.
Some of you may be disheartened, but please be hopeful and believe in your wife Shondo. She loves you in her own way that she can and we can love her in a way that is acceptable to her too. This is all admittedly complicated but it is for the best.

>>91662657
the people who need to hear this the most unfortunately don't give a fuck, but fortunately they will leave

I just realized last night's menhera episode was caused by her lack of recognition and clip being discarded by the vtuber awards. She immediately went into her emails to get exactly what she was wanting from strangers that she failed to get.

>>91662905
retard

>>91662657
>She told us that she wouldn't be here without us
Because she literally told us that streaming is profitable and we pay for everything she has in her life.
>but no marriage ever is.
They never are when the transactional parts of it are obscenely one-sided.
>It's important for us to stay loyal
So that she does not end up on the streets, yes. She conveniently forgets this which is why she constantly mistreats us.
>As long as we keep open and genuine communication we can always sort out the issues and be stronger afterwards.
Like when she openly mocks you on stream in front of hundreds or belittles you on twitter when you give her genuine communication?
>Some of you may be disheartened
Due to her mistreating her husbands.
>She loves you in her own way that she can and we can love her in a way that is acceptable to her too.
Her own way, which has cut us off while we continue to pay for luxuries for her cat and love her as if she was a corpo while other Barbies of her size act more parasocial with their viewers.
>This is all admittedly complicated but it is for the best.
For the best for her and only her.

>>91663111
if you believed this you wouldn't be here

>>91663139
I have a lifeboat prepped and ready. Just because the ship is sinking, that does not mean I need to leave immediately.

>>91663187
you just said the ship is sunk already and you've been whining about this for a year

>>91663243
You sound like you are drowning in the ship, anon. Would you like a seat on my lifeboat?

>>91663303
yeah who's your side hoe, the shoggers need some suggestions
don't say oli

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>>91663111
trips of truth

>>91663111
> They never are when the transactional parts of it are obscenely one-sided.
If you see a marriage as a transactional relationship, it's already over. If you don't enjoy the very act of supporting shondo, just don't do it.

>>91663377
Every marriage and relationship is transactional, even friendships. Do you even understand what that means? Affection and genuine respect are just some aspects that are apart of it.

wen shumo

>>91663452
yeah cuz this is a real marriage

>>91663452
You are just exposing yourself as a psychopath.

Good Morning Shondopolis! ^_^

>>91663505
And you have revealed yourself to be a retard.

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Now KISS SHONDO!

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>>91663617
Mwah

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>>91663657
ew

>>91663669
lol pussy

>>91663728
not her, the person who drew that.

>>91663581
A transactional relationship is one in which you give something to "earn" the privilege of receiving something in return. That's not how friendships and romantic relationships work; affection and love are things that are freely given, never demanded. If the reason you act kindly or lovingly toward someone else is because you expect something in return, that means you have never really loved anyone.

>>91663757
you're completely right

>>91663757
Affection and respect are all privileges obtained from romantic relationships and friendships. That is what makes them inherently transactional.
> If the reason you act kindly or lovingly toward someone else is because you expect something in return
What else are you expecting in return? The entire point of committing to a relationship or a friendship is the respect and affection and other aspects that you typically obtain from fostering them. They are inherently an expectation and that is why you maintain them in the first place. Stop replying you retard and go have real life experiences.

>>91663885
you must be a pretty sucky friend mister.

>>91663885
you are on 4chan for a gfe vtuber antiing against her for months

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>>91662657
christfag hands typed this post

>>91663925
Right now I am anting the creatures responding to me when they have no clue what a relationship is beyond Shondo.

>>91663952
you are on 4chan in the gfe vtuber thread arguing and peacocking life experience and wisdom

>>91663922
A sucky friend does not have friendships that have lasted since highschool for over 15 years.

>>91663970
And you are banned and divorced.

>>91663997
apparently they do, your friends probably suck too

>>91663997
From your side at least, they aren't real friendships, just transactional relationships.

>>91664032
They are cooler than you given that they do not post on 4chan like you are doing right now.

>>91663997
dang your old, guess i cant compare to a 30yo explaining his sucky view on relationships ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>91664030
>he's a banned and divorced poster
i would have bet my life on it, not surprising
sasuga groomer anti
i've never been banned btw

>>91663938
Come to Christ

>>91664062
Real friendships are transactional relationships that typically exchange time to share leisure, activities or the enjoyment with each other's company.

>>91664113
except for that one time

>>91664145
thats a sucky person view mister

>>91664089
They are accurate views. Given that you are the resident nonce I would not say you qualify to speak on this subject since your relationships with children are also "sucky".

>>91664150
c:

>>91664205
>buddy thinks im only friends with little girls.
i literally have too many close friends to count on both hands.
also my girlfriend’s age doesnt have anything to do with my ability to have a view on friendships sir. what kinda fricking logic are you using?

>>91664145
For a relationship to be transactional, one person must feel obligated to perform certain actions. If they act out of obligation rather than genuine desire, it reflects an exchange rather than mutual affection or friendship. True friendship relies on shared willingness and enjoyment, not a sense of duty or expectation.

>>91664299
syadouClueless

>>91664312
What the fuck are you even talking about? You have an obligation to perform actions that make your friends and partners happy do you not? That obligation is what fuels you to maintain them. That is part of the transactional process.
>True friendship relies on shared willingness and enjoyment
And as previously stated, that is a privilege. And you give people those types of privileges out of genuine desire to do so.
You are literally agreeing with my points while jumping through a hoop and thinking that we do not agree. Stop confusing yourself.

>>91664592
so your afraid of losing your friendships all the time? so you feel an obligated to try to keep them intact?

every relationship is transactional to some extent even if you want to boil it down to you having to give up your time to be with someone

>>91664630
No one said this.

>>91664874
You did

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>>91664893
No one said this.

>>91664592
In short, the key difference is the motivation. In a true friendship, each party's actions at any given time are driven by personal desire, not by expectations of reciprocity. If you act friendly as a means of getting something in return (such as affection coming from them), rather than as an end in itself, you're not really their friend.

antis are so right they spend hours a day for months arguing about how much they hate being here

>>91664941
Okay? And we have also agreed on this, that there needs to be reciprocation in the relationships when having a transaction of time, enjoyment, affection etc.
You are literally describing relationships as transactional.

oh my gosh this person just wont admit they had a sucky initial way of stating their point.
jeez

>>91665026
anon you're arguing with a nonce and someone who's double digit IQ on a good day there's no point

>>91665207
I do not mind explaining my points.

>>91665277
stop replying to yourself just to shoot an insult

gary if she tells me about any email she got from you I will get your address from Zman and I will fucking kill you

>>91665393
why? my business inquiry would be legitimate.

>>91665300
The other anon is not me. Why would I need to shoot an insult when I have properly explained my points to the best of my ability? If the autistic nonce cannot grasp social concepts or if the anon still does not understand the points we have made, then so be it.

>>91665026
No, reciprocity is not necessary for friendship. All it takes is for one party to desire/enjoy spending time with someone else, or to show affection in one way or another, for there to be friendship. The other party may or may not choose to do the same, reciprocity only means that the friendship is mutual; friendship doesn't have to be mutual.

If one party is doing what friends normally do, but because they feel obligated to do it, or because they think they will get something in return, instead of enjoying the actions themselves, then they're not a friend.

>>91665207
Sir, I am not a nonce, and my IQ is 154.

>>91665475
dang thats higher than most people

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>>91665393
it's okay, maybe it will finally sink in for her that giving emailniggers constant attention only emboldens people like this nonce to also spam her with shit when he starts spamming her with his schizo theories, asking her dumb shit to talk about on GES or sending his pedo fantasies about her sisters :)

>>91665507
none of that has to do with a professional proposal for asking her to join in on a GES.
also do you really think that low of me that id resort to spamming a fricking email? im fricking 21. who the frick my age spans emails? im not 40

>>91665443
And what you have described is the transactional differences between relationships that are maintained via desire or obligation. We agree and have been agreeing. Can we move on now?

>>91665507
she shouldn't have to let that shit sink in because she shouldn't even bring up the fact that she reads them in the first place.
this is clearly some stupid shit test, and i am not mad at her about it. she's a mentally ill woman on the internet so i won't blame her over stuff like this.
i will however blame the fucking retards that use her for attention farming like she's some sort of object

>>91665541
i'll save you the time and her the reading: the answer is no, she won't collab with a nonce that spends all day being an anti. hope that helps. now fuck off :)

>>91665554
yes i agree that your not viewing friendships in a Christlike way, we should move on

>>91665605
I do not give two shits about the cult known as Christianity.

>>91665541
>21
perfect age to make it easy to write your death off as a suicide

>>91665589
https://x.com/SevensSecondAcc/status/1868495638989791501
You mean like Sevens does?

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>>91665507
S you dummy
she literally said she was getting less emails
and she's the one who determines whether it's a problem for her or not
like that other anon said, she's talked about it multiple times, she knows what you're saying already and chooses otherwise

also stop getting baited by G, half the reason they say the things they do is to piss you off lel
and probably to make you look bad too
>>91665605
based and true
>>91665624
get a hobby

hope this helps you guys, don't worry my wisdom is free for /shon/

>>91665592
but if i dont email her. that means i wouldnt have kept my word that i would. hope this helps.
you get your weekly reply.

>>91665641
that was actually a good come back. ill give you that. but no, killing yourself is gay mister. how many times do i have to say it

>>91665704
>wisdom from a banned and divorced schizo

>>91665739
better than a narcissist who only larps as a husband

>wisdom from an ex-divorcee and white knight

>>91665781
>ex-divorcee
well admitting i'm not divorced is a start shogga, proud of you

>>91665393
you should ask shondo for the address instead. she has it more readily available. but since zman and shondo are very close, he likely has the new one as well

>>91665771
ironic post

S quit trolling.

>>91665554
No, we are not in agreement, stop weaseling around trying to change what the word "transactional" means.

You said: "The entire point of committing to a relationship or friendship is the respect and affection and other aspects that you typically obtain from fostering them," this assertion is incompatible with the vague definition of "transactional" that you have switched to in the middle of this discussion.

>>91665935
i thought we were done talking about that… it got boring.

you all have melty cuz she replied to some guys on twitter
youre all groomers, faggots, niggers and retards

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>>91665935
My definition has been far from vague. I have explained it quite well to you and others for the past short while now so I am going to assume you are trolling at this point.
>The entire point of committing to a relationship or friendship is the respect and affection and other aspects that you typically obtain from fostering them
Yes, that is the transactional aspects to fostering relationships regardless of it being obligation or genuine desire. Nothing has been weaseled, you have just been disagreeing while inadvertently agreeing.

>>91665589
sorry anon but at this point there's a level of personal responsibility for it on her part here as well. she can't sit there and go "guys don't send random shit to my business email" then act confused about why she's still getting them when she'll start parading around every random retard that sends some stupid shit. the same goes for letting people attention farm her. she wants people to treat her like a person and not an attention ATM then she'll reward literal whos farming her for a reply and likes when the same behaviour had her almost not wanting to interact with us when people in the community would do it pre hiatus. they're two of the big things she would constantly get annoyed about leading up to the hiatus and recurring issues for years if you want to replace emails with dms prior.
>>91665704
>she literally said she was getting less emails
okay, but she's still rewarding the ones that *are* sending them
>she's the one who determines whether it's a problem for her or not
then she should start being consistent about it cause i can point to a whole bunch of times she's complained about the behaviour and said it upsets her, stresses her out, or annoys her

anon i think you might just be dumb lol

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>>91666066
>i can point to a whole bunch of times she's complained about the behaviour and said it upsets her, stresses her out, or annoys her
just cause she complains about an email doesn't mean she's not consistent, but i digress, she's pretty consistent on not caring about talking about them

you've already told her what you think, so have others, and she's made it clear multiple times now she disagrees
it's really not something you need to be this upset about at this point i think, at least not for the reason you're saying
i feel like you have to be more upset that people are sending her private messages more than that it upsets her- cause clearly she's not upset enough to stop talking about it or doesn't care if it encourages it

it doesn't necessarily encourage it either, it depends on the person and stuff, but i digress and don't care to argue about that cause there's no point it's just speculation

i just don't think it's that serious brobro
either way you're just upsetting her by continuing after she told you xdd
i would know xdd

>>91666313 (me)
also after everything she's said, if you insist on still trying to argue you need to be a lot niser about it

S is just jealous randos got attention but he didnt
lets ignore the fact that shondo replied to his tweet shortly after

Tuffy, has the fact that your getting a shumo changed at all?

>>91665589
Reflect on your unbecoming behavior and you may realize something

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>>91666369
ask a mod
>>91666372
kek shit yourself

>>91666062
If you agree with the assertion "the entire point of committing to a relationship or friendship is the respect and affection and other aspects that you typically obtain from fostering them", then you disagree with me.

The point of friendship/marriage is not something you get from the other party as a result of your actions, but the pleasure of you doing what friends/spouses do. Even if the other party died before they could do something you enjoyed in return, that shouldn't diminish the pleasure you get from what you did (as it would in a transactional relationship where one party "owes" the other for favors).

business friendships are transactional however.

>>91666458
of course, they aren't true friendships.

>>91666471
are there any examples of True business friendships?

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>>91666313
it's okay. she can pretend she's having fun getting farmed by people then come to us complaining about it in the discord or on stream in a few weeks time just like the last time this happened. and the time before that, and the time before that, and the hiatus before that, and-

>>91666486
Two people can be "business friends" and "friends" at the same time, but both states are completely independent of each other.

>>91666505
xdd

>>91666531
i guess thats true for directing duos in Hollywood as well.
they can be friends, but working together is fueled and dependent on success 99% of the time.
once someones vision differentiates from the other, theyre no longer “business friendly”
even siblings. like the Coen brothers

>>91666431
>The point of friendship/marriage is not something you get from the other party as a result of your actions, but the pleasure of you doing what friends/spouses do.
The pleasure you get is why you commit to your relationships and friendships and why you are motivated to foster them.
And the pleasure you get is part and parcel to what makes relationships inherently transactional. I will repeat this as many times as I have to that you are describing relationships as such. We agree, anon. Carry on now please before you give yourself an aneurism.

dang u guys been having a melty

>>91666705
no, like four of us are defining what friendships should be, and three of us are talking about the email stuff

>>91666505
she's doing it to vent the frustrating and letting us laugh at them too
ill admit it makes me a little bit menhera that those niggers get attention but its nothing i cant tank

>>91666705
It is funny seeing the attention whores, banned schizo antis, newfag attention ATM farmers and others all shit themselves over her tweeting.

im gonna go back and read it but didnt she say it was *marked* as spam? indicating that these love letters automatically get categorized into the spam box?

>>91667001
she still checks spam because she's said she missed opportunities in the past due to emails going to spam

Can't she tell by the email subjects?

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>>91667001 (me)

yeah >>91667032

>>91667122
yes, but she wants to read them.

>>91667122
Subject: Professional Business Inquiry

message:
but yeah don't think your sorry's and spoiling go unnoticed <3
patpatpat
you've got me wrapped around your thorny stem... my wicked rose... it's perfect...

when you get sweet like that after it makes me swoon... it's like the abusive push/pull
not always a bad dynamic tb h

>>91667200
Kek

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>>91666037(me)
So no?

>>91667334
yep nothing

>>91667191
except the insanely long schizo emails, I think she does want to read the others

>>91667334
no nothing

>>91667334
no, nothing new qwerty

>>91667001
The typical shogger love confession is probably on the level of an average nigerian prince scam email

>>91665507
if she still hasn't learned after she has farmed schizos like this for literal years she's never gonna learn

>>91665475
Damn iq mogged by a pedophile... I'm only at 131...

times like this make me question why i bother to behave
but i know its the right thing to do at the end of the day

>>91666678
Then you agree that your first comment, criticizing Shondo for not reciprocating the support she receives from her husbands, completely misses the point of the relationship; and you agree with me when I say that if you don't enjoy the very act of supporting her, then you don't really love her and there is no point for you to continue the relationship.

>>91667516
ill say it once cuz iq bragging is fricking lame but it seems you all care about that. mine is only 134. its either in the mid-high 130s or low 140s. id have to double check with my mom.
just cuz someones iq is high or low doesnt mean all their content will reflect a persons iq. its only something you should ironically joke about desu.
iq doesnt account for social skills or creativity just keep in mind. im pretty sure its like only for pattern recognition and analytical ability

>>91667811
> When Jesus saw people doing evil He didn't endure it, He stopped them
Dude, that wasn't Jesus stopping evil, that was just him losing his shit because he had a personal vendetta against merchants and usurers. Today most Christian denominations agree that they weren't committing a sin at all.

>>91667811
i actually went over these exactly a week ago for a lesson. we discussed righteous anger/speaking by the power of God, and how to recognize appropriate usage of righteous anger

>>91668076
Meds
The Torah states to take fair wages for your product, they were sinning if they were usurers
But He did all that for other reasons and sins of theirs

After reading this thread i remember why i stopped coming here. I literally only rating her stream and checking if im in first 20 on stats

>>91668477
good

>>91668477
hi zman

>>91668491
im not him

>>91668477
it really is just a waste of time here.

>>91667566
It did not miss the point at all. We have both agreed that this is a transactional relationship regardless of our individual desire or obligation to foster it. Do you think that someone cannot be critical of their spouse failing to uphold their end of the relationship? Surely not. You can receive pleasure despite her failing but that does not absolve her of her shortcomings.
It is even a testament of love when either side is failing while the other is holding out despite the transaction being imbalanced for an indefinite amount of time.
>then you don't really love her and there is no point for you to continue the relationship.
So, no. You are just wrong here. I never once said that I did not enjoy the act of supporting her. I have even vouched for continuing to do so because there are consequences if she were to magically lose her support suddenly. Your conclusion of "you are critical of her, you do not love her and need to leave" does not apply to me.

>>91668575
twas a joke.
ZMan’s interaction with communities is pretty much exclusively lurking and reading 90% of EVERYTHING, actually involving himself in discussions is quite limited despite the knowledge he collects about every little thing. he even reads the welcome channels for all his servers frequently.

Good afternoon Shondopolis!
hows it going yall?
wen shumo?

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>>91665715
Matthew 5:33-37
>“Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.

>>91669034
jesse

>>91668661
>Do you think that someone cannot be critical of their spouse failing to uphold their end of the relationship?
There is no "her end of the relationship" to maintain, that's my point.

> You can receive pleasure despite her failing but that does not absolve her of her shortcomings.
What shortcomings? You only perceive it as a "failing" on her part because you see this as a transactional relationship between parties instead of a love relationship.

>It is even a testament of love when either side is failing while the other is holding out despite the transaction being imbalanced for an indefinite amount of time.
There is nothing to balance, this is not a transaction.

> You are just wrong here. I never once said that I did not enjoy the act of supporting her.
If that's the case, why do you care whether she reciprocates or not?

>>91669303
>There is no "her end of the relationship" to maintain, that's my point.
That is not how marriages work if we are supposed to treat this like a real one. And she desires us to do so, stated many times by her words and on record for it. Do you not understand that "her end" is the means she is also providing to yourself and why you also wish to support her?
>transactional relationship between parties instead of a love relationship.
A loving relationship is a transactional relationship and you fail to understand this despite describing it as such yourself.
>There is nothing to balance
Nothing to balance? She herself came back from hiatus and acknowledged the imbalance. What planet are you on?
>If that's the case, why do you care whether she reciprocates or not?
Since you need points repeated to you, I will do so again and restate that your conclusion not applying to me means that I love her and she is not absolved of criticism.

Jesus said that the greatest act of love someone can show a friend is sacrificing their own life for them
Thoughts? Does that describe a transactional friendship?

>>91670114
i thought the greatest demonstration of love *we* can do is charity. which maybe we are thinking of the same thing? just wording it different?

>>91670175
1 John 3:16
>This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.

>>91669807
> That is not how marriages work if we are supposed to treat this like a real one.
That is how failed marriages that are on life support for the sake of caring for children work, not functional marriages based on love.

> Do you not understand that "her end" is the means she is also providing to yourself and why you also wish to support her?
No, stop projecting your psychopathic view of relationships onto other people.

> A loving relationship is a transactional relationship and you fail to understand this despite describing it as such yourself.
You fail (or pretend to fail) to understand the difference, even though it has been constantly pointed out and explained.

> Nothing to balance? She herself came back from hiatus and acknowledged the imbalance. What planet are you on?
She thinks that way because she is a very insecure person who is scared to death of people leaving her. For her sake, it would be great if she understood that she has people who really love her, who don't support her just because she does something for them. Your existence here only reaffirms her insecurities, you should just leave.

> Since you need points repeated to you, I will do so again and restate that your conclusion not applying to me means that I love her and she is not absolved of criticism.
There is nothing to criticize her for, she doesn't owe us anything. The very fact that you think there is something to criticize her for shows that you are wrong in thinking we essentially agree.

I am in a one sided friendship with everyone on earth, is this a transactional relationship I'm in?

>>91670486
marriages based on love aren't functional, because love is a temporary fleeting feeling that comes and goes. you have a 14 year old girl's idea of marriage

>>91670976
you have a jaded retard's view on marriage, marriages based on love are the only good ones, you're simply coping with the fact that you don't love shondo

>>91670486
>That is how failed marriages that are on life support for the sake of caring for children work, not functional marriages based on love.
Then how does she not have "her end" in the relationship when you are claiming it is based on love? I do not think you understand the point you are even making. She has an end and you have even acknowledged the existence of it within this relationship.
>No, stop projecting your psychopathic view of relationships onto other people.
Considering you are projecting your lack of knowledge or experience this does not mean what you think it does.
>You fail (or pretend to fail) to understand the difference, even though it has been constantly pointed out and explained.
The issue is that you seem to just not understand that what you describe are the transactions between relationships, thus making them transactional. To call them non-transactional implies that she essentially treats us like we do not exist, which has far from the points being made today.
>She thinks that way because she is a very insecure person who is scared to death of people leaving her. For her sake, it would be great if she understood that she has people who really love her, who don't support her just because she does something for them. Your existence here only reaffirms her insecurities, you should just leave.
But she does understand this, which is why she constantly repeats things like "being here is enough". This is a bizarre point to make here, anon. Her entire existence is based on doing something for her viewers/husbands as both our wife and a content creator. Do you think she would be successful if she literally did nothing? Do you think she would buy a house by doing nothing? I will one day figure out what planet you are on.
>There is nothing to criticize her for, she doesn't owe us anything
Again to your previous point, this may as well be ironic white knighting because you cannot seriously believe she does not owe us anything. I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt you are just naive and not stupid or trolling.

>>91671150
just leave, you lost

>>91671049
i'm not talking about what we have with shondo, i'm talking about actual marriages that are about building a family together. i wonder who's coping

>>91671184
No.

>>91671215
you said you already planned on it earlier

https://youtube.com/shorts/soXfxBvCPL4

>>91671209
love is not a fleeting feeling that comes and goes, that's lust, you are the one coping because you don't know what you're talking about
you will never be able to raise children properly if there's no love between you and your spouse, and marriages are not only about starting a family despite what the youtubers you watch tell you

>>91671313
the kind of love that shondo feels for you, correct? even though she doesn't know you exist? yeah, that's true love right there

>>91671412
it is, you are clueless, come back when you've lived life. why are you around if she doesn't know you exist and that isn't enough for you?

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>>91671225
No I did not.

Proverbs 18:1
>An unfriendly person pursues selfish ends and against all sound judgment starts quarrels.
2 Timothy 2:23
>Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.

>>91671490
you should leave anyway, you're clearly deeply unhappy here, you've spent hours today arguing only reasons not to be here

>>91671540
No? Did you just perceive text and not actually read anything? I have vouched for remaining here multiple times and even vouched for supporting her. Please do not bother replying if you are too lazy to read the thread or keep up with a basic conversation.

>>91671488
she knows i exist, no need to project lil bro. i'm just sane enough to understand that this isn't a real marriage. it ain't rocket science, nigga

>>91671652
?
>>91663187

>>91671667
>admitting you don't actually love her or take your relationship serious
she doesn't love you just because she knows you exist

>>91671737
>moving the goalposts

>>91671803
there's nothing to engage with but that, you made no actual argument you just said you don't see the relationship how shondo sees it and are acting like you're correct somehow

>>91671737
Supposedly I should have questioned if you were too stupid to follow a basic conversation. Do you not understand the concept of readying yourself for negative outcomes or do you just lack the capability of forethought?

>>91671874
>i'm prepared to leave
>the ship is sinking
you are saying that you intend on leaving in that post and then continued to argue for leaving her and that the relationship failed

>>91671850
you should stop talking for shondo when you don't know the first thing about her. her love for us is the same as her love for her mother and her siblings, those are her own words

>>91672093
yes, you should love your spouse like family. you're the one who doesn't know shondo, don't try to turn around and act like you didn't just say she's wrong on what this marriage actually is, it ain't rocket science nigga

Familial love from her
Romantic love from me
She's my number 1
I'm her number... Whatever

>>91672143
i specifically said that your idea of marriage is that of a 14 year old girl's. never once did i mention shondo's concept of it until you brought it up. you're so weird. what a little fucking freak

>>91671986
>you are saying that you intend on leaving in that post
No, that is you projecting.
>then continued to argue for leaving her
Nearly the entirety of the discussion was about transactional relationships and anon inadvertently agreeing that we are in one. I am assuming you are trolling, did not read or are stupid by this point on.
>that the relationship failed
If I describe it was a transactional relationship then I have implied that there are aspects she is managing to uphold, thus it has not failed.
If you are not trolling, please just stop posting. You are more clueless than anon was and I was being graciously nice about it with him.

>>91672276
>love is fleeting
>this isn't a real marriage
you're wrong about what a real marriage actually is, and if you knew shondo you'd know what you're saying means you're wrong about what she wants in the relationship
>>91672279
so who's your side hoe you've got lined up?

>>91666037
faggot

>>91672268
im always in her top 20
she loves me even if i don't interact with her in other form than chat

https://x.com/goodgirlshadow/status/1868639624219996284

>>91672654
fuck
>>91672161

>>91672654
>settling for top 20

>>91672654
>isn't even one of the only 3-5 she regularly interacts with
lol irl

>>91673101
and who would those be?

you will never be MM
why do you even try lol
your copium is really sad to see

https://youtube.com/shorts/sOxAfu1t3zY
@transactional anon
Please watch

>>91671150
> Then how does she not have "her end" in the relationship when you are claiming it is based on love?
Your relationship towards her should be based on YOUR love for her, not her love for you. Love is love whether it is reciprocated or not; if you condition your affection on her giving affection back, you don't really love her.

> She has an end and you have even acknowledged the existence of it within this relationship.
> But she does understand this, which is why she constantly repeats things like "being here is enough".
People like you reaffirm her fears that people don't really love her, and that has hurt her a lot.

> Considering you are projecting your lack of knowledge or experience this does not mean what you think it does.
It seems that you have had terrible relationships throughout your life, and you are so jaded that you do not realize that people are capable of truly loving each other. Worst of all, you treat others as badly as you have been treated, perpetuating a vicious cycle of misery.

> Her entire existence is based on doing something for her viewers/husbands as both our wife and a content creator. Do you think she would be successful if she literally did nothing? Do you think she would buy a house by doing nothing? I will one day figure out what planet you are on.
Whether she could live without doing what she does is beside the point. There are real husbands in her audience who don't see this relationship as transactional, and you aren't among them.

> Again to your previous point, this may as well be ironic white knighting because you cannot seriously believe she does not owe us anything.
She literally doesn't owe us anything; affection is something given freely, not something given in expectation of something in return.

>>91673558
stop posting about yourself

where are the merch instructions?

>>91674786
hold your horses

>>91672474
a real marriage is about creating a family. hope this helps. good luck creating a family with a vtuber that you'll never meet who can't have kids

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Shondopolis is actually located in HunGary

>>91675184
erm actually its located in the darkest depths of Bulgarya

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>>91674786
wait warmly

>>91673722
>Your relationship towards her should be based on YOUR love for her, not her love for you. Love is love whether it is reciprocated or not; if you condition your affection on her giving affection back, you don't really love her.
So for starters, this is untrue. This point is a weird contradiction to say "if you condition your affection on her giving affection back, you don't really love her." while saying "love is love", which means that even if you were correct (you are not), my love for her is just as valid as yours. But that is not the case, you are just confused by your own contradiction.
Implying this means that a huge portion of her husbands are invalidated when her being affectionate is the only transaction they can receive from her. Not everyone is an artist. Not everyone knows how to stand out. But love is love, right? See how your point does not work here?
>People like you reaffirm her fears that people don't really love her, and that has hurt her a lot.
Well I tell her that I love her so I am not one of these "people" you speak of.
But since you are making broad claims about others "not really loving her", which in turn would fuel the same fear you are talking about, you should be careful with this hypocritical point.
>It seems that you have had terrible relationships throughout your life, and you are so jaded that you do not realize that people are capable of truly loving each other. Worst of all, you treat others as badly as you have been treated, perpetuating a vicious cycle of misery.
That is incorrect but I applaud your attempt at playing therapist. Maybe stick to the discussion instead of larping, however.
>Whether she could live without doing what she does is beside the point. There are real husbands in her audience who don't see this relationship as transactional, and you aren't among them.
Not seeing it as such does not rid the characterizations, anon. So this point does not mean much, nor did it address my questions.
>She literally doesn't owe us anything; affection is something given freely, not something given in expectation of something in return.
Now here is why you did not answer my questions and I think you have a problem with critical thinking, anon. You need to stop saying this phrase, because she quite literally owes us everything that she can and is willing to give.
Again: do you think she would be successful if she literally did nothing? Do you you think she would buy a house by doing nothing? Subathon awards? Merch? Content for her channels, etc?
Even if we sat and watched 10 hour ambience videos and she sat in silence, that is still time she is owing us.

did anyone get their order yet? did she add tracking to it?

okay Tuffnar, you can stop talking about shondo. youve been at it nonstop for 10 whole hours

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>>91675958
Couple of people have gotten their orders and posted them. I have to assume only the individual ones and people who live close by to her in UK. Tracking isn't available yet. She's suppose to send a message when.

>>91676316
ogey cause i got a message on my phone to pay border feds their money but it turned out to be a scam lul

>>91676316
it wouldve popped up in her business email already. and she checked it recently, so still must not be available. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>91672927
>>91673101
she replies to me very often and im happy with that
i dont need to have meltdown on 4chan because of some groomers
i know she secretly loves only me

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I just hope my Shumo comes before Christmas.

just sent my 6th email today

>>91676865
that's nice ltd

>>91677915 (me)
or should i say Pyro

remember to report hide and ignore shitposts and divorcees

any updates on the winners of the hair gacha?

>>91676316
So we can narrow down her location(or their location) via shumo shipment?

>>91677720
What'd they say?

>>91679523
no because she is using a shipping company in a city and not her own town

>>91659811
On twitter dumb shit. Closest thing is a picture she took of before and after a haircut, and even then she covered her face.

>>91680406
how new?

>>91680543
>>91680406
quit horsing around!

>>91680406
That was a really cute picture

The cup one wasn't posted on twitter by her(afaik), but it was the avatar of someone on twitter, if they meant that
Not that you could see her face though?

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she's my fute bagel

>>91680543
how old?

>>91682904
i'm gonna touch you

>>91677915
>>91678257
not even close

>>91683660
then who is he

It still amazes me that she's as beautiful in her rtx model as she is in each other. Thank you Prometheus poster

https://youtube.com/shorts/1Dn0cPHL7Ig

Shondo 30 day ban jokes will never not be funny.

>>91684616
new fren

>>91684440
what is bro waffling about

Nothing important

Why did she accept a marriage proposal from a rando non viewer

>>91685606
idk about you but she accepted mine when i clicked follow

She accepted mine when I imprinted on her 3 years ago

just 3? ;)

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don't forget
or else

>>91686009
>oh, and one little thing - once you hit that follow button, you're my pay piggy forever, okay?

>>91686094
and?

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don't forget
or else

>>91686219
you're divorced and will be forgotten

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don't forget this, bitch ass shigga

>>91686282
name me

>>91685668
you clicked a social media button. he got a personal response

>>91686389
khaal

>>91686488
there's no difference in marriage status though

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>>91686368
cute little baby fingie

>>91687090
would

>>91684616
beeg

Isn't it illegal to marry a child?

>>91675884
> Implying this means that a huge portion of her husbands are invalidated when her being affectionate is the only transaction they can receive from her.
You are just trolling at this point, nobody can be that stupid. If they do what they do because they expect anything in return, then they don't love her.
Just think about the implications of what you're saying; according to your psychopathic view of love, parents would not love their infant children.

> Well I tell her that I love her so I am not one of these "people" you speak of.
You have shown us that you are incapable of feeling love, and you don't even understand what love is. The fact that you insist that you love her, when your way of looking at the relationship is like this, makes her distrust people who claim to love her.

> But since you are making broad claims about others "not really loving her", which in turn would fuel the same fear you are talking about, you should be careful with this hypocritical point.
It's as if every time you wanted to eat chocolate chip cookies and went to the bakery to get them, you had to gamble on whether the cookies the bakers insist are chocolate chip cookies are really chocolate chip cookies, since many of them actually sell raisin cookies.

> That is incorrect but I applaud your attempt at playing therapist. Maybe stick to the discussion instead of larping, however.
Well, then you are just a psychopath, plainly as that.

> Again: do you think she would be successful if she literally did nothing? Do you you think she would buy a house by doing nothing? Subathon awards? Merch? Content for her channels, etc?
Again, that's irrelevant. When someone loves you, they do things that people who love you do without expecting anything in return. If she had to do any of the things you mention, that would imply that no one really loves her; in reality, however, many people really do love her.

>>91687455
Marriage is a legal process.

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>>91687638
based
that anon is a dumb niggerword fake husband
psychopath anon has been an anti since i've been here though so you're not gonna get rid of him he's intent on being unhappy or trying to influence
now check them syadouSmug

>>91687851
>51
i'm [REDACTED]ing myself

>>91687455
well technically she's just goop in the form of a child.

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>shondo is one of the most genuine people i've ever met
>is she mentally ill? yes, but that doesn't define her
>i really like her

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>>91688552
uh, sister, we anti her in this thread, delete this

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>>91688552
I like Filian because I like Shondo's friends!
>>91688636
bee nise!

>>91687638
>If they do what they do because they expect anything in return, then they don't love her.
You mean expecting their unironic wife to be loving and affectionate? The thing everyone signed up for when viewing her beyond some piece of entertainment? The thing most people stick around for with literally any parasocial vtuber?
Are you sure you are not trolling? Because you are making this hard to believe that you are not just simply stupid.
>You have shown us that you are incapable of feeling love, and you don't even understand what love is.
All you have done is just disagree while trying any desperate attempt to not fumble into any agreements with the backbone of your reasons being "Nuh uh, you just don't love her!". I have been patiently waiting for you to stop this embarrassing mess you call a discussion.
>It's as if every time you wanted to eat chocolate chip cookies and went to the bakery to get them, you had to gamble on whether the cookies the bakers insist are chocolate chip cookies are really chocolate chip cookies, since many of them actually sell raisin cookies.
And in this example, you are the one insisting some cookies are raisins when they are actually chocolate chips. Which means that you are doing exactly as I said, which provocation of her fears.
>Well, then you are just a psychopath, plainly as that.
That is apparently far better than a whiteknight who is actively hurting her by formulating these awful retorts. You are responding out of frustration now and it is time to stop, anon.
>Again, that's irrelevant. When someone loves you, they do things that people who love you do without expecting anything in return. If she had to do any of the things you mention, that would imply that no one really loves her; in reality, however, many people really do love her.
You are doing bounds and leaps and the most impressive backflips by dodging the entire point. But I guess the literal obligations to us that exist are just somehow irrelevant.
You are not even making points, these are just replies for the sake of disagreeing and you seem delirious, anon.

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>>91688774
i'm falseflagging as a meanie to make them look bad shhh i like her too

>>91687851
You have not even read the discussion. You see words and react out of pure emotion.

jfc you retards are still posting essays
i am not reading this shit i don't care what you're saying

naur... please read my essay syadouCry

>>91684440
No prob zman

It is a striking realization that the reason Shondo has so many antis is because her whitekngihts are too retarded.

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gift from your local freak

>>91689249
cute

>>91686488
i've got personal response live on stream
is that count?

>>91687090
sexy

>>91689208
Shondo has so many antis because those antis started as husbands but either got exiled from the community or grew to resent her due to her hypocrisy.

>>91686592
you caught me
no