What went right? This was a fantastic hire
>What went right ?German
>>91722559gassy german
>>91722559>This was a fantastic hireNo, I want my sweet blue indie back
>>91722559She's just ok... Most importantly she works well with Gigi .
>>91722757What makes her less good now? And "because corpos are bad" isn't a reason.
>>91722743Germans invented gas warfare.
>>91722846No toggles or interactions on her brb screen.
>>91722757Indies aren't worth watching (except for Mint and Doki). It's like watching a minor league sports team to see who is going to make it in the majors, it's a waste of time and only no life faggots bother doing it.
>>91722846Because corpos bad.
>>91722559When will she do a solo Collab with Kiara?
>>91722559
>>91722559>german>streams at a good time for germans>funny for germans>great together with Gigi>but also great on her own>Gigi is also great on her own
>>91722559she will burn out after a year, they always start great and then decline hard. perm autism will kill your motivation
agreed, give me my nut redeem or give me death
>>91722982Hopefully, never. I don't want to skip any of her streams.
>>91723051Germans have ordnung autism so it will cancel out.
>>91722982Germans hate Austrians and it's not because of Hitler or some petty garbage like that.See how it's always Kiara that tries to chat her up in German and CC always going "what? yeah ahaha hallo gute frau"
>>91722846NTA, but>streams at worse times>can't play what she wants>barely any pregame zatsu>can't be as spontaneous>worse model>way worse rigging>can't collab with her indie friends
All of Justice (except that one I don't like) were great hires. I'm glad they didn't stay in "uwu i'm new pls be gentle" mode too long like the previous gens.
>>91722559she's going to graduate soon, given the direction hololive is going and her recent stream breakdowns
>>91723225Her indie friends are all whores. She's better now that she can't interact with them.
>>91723152Yeah I've already had to skip the mori collab stream
>>91723225>streams at worse timesThats subjective.>can't play what she wantsSuch as? Has she expressed this at all herself or are you just assuming?>barely any pregame zatsuSeems like she does enough talking to me>>91723225>>can't be as spontaneousOkay fair I guess, but the amazing creativity and spotaneous quallity of indies is greatly, greatly exxagerated and she still does lots of different creative streams and has even changed games/direction of streams>worse modelSubjective.>way worse riggingFair.>can't collab with her indie friendsMost indies are scum. Hololive girls are better, the access to hololive members as coworkers and collab partners is literally one of the best things about joining.I don't find particular issue with what you said, but lets agree to disagree.
>>91723154german here, this is a thing of the past and Ceci isnt really behaving like an origin german either>>91723051this is unfortunately true for most of them so i always wait a year to judge, i really hope Gigi and Ceci stay the way they are now, just like Boobi
>>91723437why was she crying in her sekiro stream?
>>91723501>drunk sekiro
>>91723343I don't mind Mori in collabs, honestly. She seems completely fine imo.
>>91723225>streams at worse timesnot my problem>can't play what she wantsshe is>barely any pregame zatsushe does them, if they aren't longer that's up to her. Others have done pre-game zatsu for almost an hour>can't be spontaneousshe is>worse modelwhy does that matter? /lig/gers defend that the model/character is irrelevant and that it's the girl who is worth it>way worse rigging?>can't collab with her indie friendsdownside?
>>91723051If she's gone through german bureaucracy all her life it'll be holo that gets broken in the end.
>>91723437>Seems like she does enough talking to mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqRq_QfqeN4
>>91723566she couldn't, she escaped germany to go live somewhere else. By german standards, she is not normal
>>91723501Drunk and getting her ass beat by big daddy Isshin.
>>91722884SCHNELL, SCHNELL, EINSATZ VON ZYKLON-BRAP!
>>91723566>Italian bureaucracy as seen through the lens of the FrenchI don't know what that has to do with Germans but I'll let it slide because I've seen the movie where this happens like 20 times on German telly.
>>91722559Hard worker and die kreativität
>>91723727
I know nothing about Germany but I'm going to assume she is not Prussian because I associate that with being rigid and conformist
>>91723990>filenameKEKKKKKKK
>>91723532I can't stand her, she adds nothing and just brings the whole energy down
>>91724055as a swede that have been in germany like 3 times (so i dont really know what i am talking about) i found the north germans to be a lot like us, autistic and informal* while the south germans was less autistic but more formal*not as informal as swedes though
>>91723530>>91723672she's never done that during her "older" drunk fromsoft streams not like you would know that desu
>>91722559Hire Germans and not Yanks, that simple!
>>91724182Oh I think I've encountered this kind of autist/informal combo that could be potentially perceived as quite rude but not intended to be so
If she keeps doing asmr I might not become a holo anti
>>91723535I do like her indie model a lot but her current one is still really good so who cares. Idk anything about her indie friends but can't be missing anything as good as autofister.
i need a scat asmr from CC where the frame makes it look like it'll be shitting sounds but it's actually just her making those weird mouth noises in jazz
>>91723246>her recent stream breakdownselaborate
>>91723034>great together with Gigi>but also great on her own>Gigi is also great on her ownIt's funny how rare a dynamic like that is in vtubing these days on the EN side.I can only think of like 2-3 more cases of this.
>>91722559she's absolute shit. her voice doesn't match the model at all, she should be a quiet demure Violet Evergarden type, not a loud, gross kraut brapper. Biggest waste of a model since Shiori
>>91724509because she never did it as an indie?
>>91724207So true mr. elite with le secret knowledge. Woman cry, even some man do, let alone while being drunk, this can have a lot of reasons, but you are looking for some drama, am i right? Better make a new thread about it then.
>>91724695they're also good in collabs with other people, just peak hires
>>91724939It's a good sign that she is capable of crying because, as a kraut, there was a high probability that she did not have a soul. Glad to hear that's not the case.
>>91722559>4 months in>already nearly had a mental breakdown on stream from the stressyeah she's probably done in a year or so like sana
>>91725024>give the German an automaton modelThe Schwarze Legende is alive and well...
>>91722559She's so boring and her voice is horrible. I've tried to watch her a few times in collabs too because maybe she would be better that way but she doesn't have chemistry with anyone. She comes off as a cringe nerd for a lack of proper words to describe her which is what I guess is what people like a about her so it's no surprise she's so loved by many
>>91725117sorry but liggers cant even afford 200€ , she's not coming back
>>91725182She's just German.
>>91723501>>91724207What point are you even trying to make right now? Hololive is somehow evil and is making her cry when she plays Sekiro? What?Seems like you are mad she isn't an indie anymore and are trying to convince yourself she secretly hates Hololive. I really don't think thats the casee though I know you are going to be vague and smug about knowing more about her because you watched her in her indie days and claim I am just not seeing something you are seeing.But to every other person she seems pretty damn happy and unfortunately your posts aren't going to convince anybody otherwise. get better material then "cover is the reason she cried playing sekiro drunk" next time.
>>91725024>not have a soulgerman here, i thought you say this about gingers
>>91722757You do know if she ever comes back, she's going to be a big shot 4view right? and have no time for any of her old friends or community members, she'll be running in the big league circles from then on. "It's not going to be the same" regardless, so quit bitching and just watch her now.
>>91724998yeah, but it's strangely rare for a pair to be fantastic as individuals too but only get better together. For example, Fuwamoco's amazing as a pair, but kind of middling when alone. Snuffy and Laimu I think are great individual entertainers, but together they just devolve into constant sex jokes and in-joke stuff that's not really entertaining to watch for me. Then you have stuff like doki/mint or autofister that makes it a joy to watch both people individually, and even better as a group.
>>91724630She had a headache and tried to do a drunk Sekiro stream and it didn't work out between the drinking, the headache, and her getting destroyed by Isshin over and over for the whole stream.Now there is a new schizo in this thread claiming that somehow Hololive is mistreating her and caused her to do that stream and cry.Have to say thats a new rrat for me, but not a very good one.
>>91725485Oh I know exactly what you mean, was just adding that they have good chemistry with other holos too, gigi especially
>>91725513Reality is she's happier than ever and has a better group of friends than her indie crab bucket, and collabs with like minded creators who want to push the medium higher, rather than lower like indies do.
>>91722559she is everything ame wanted to be
I say this sometimes knowing it will piss people off but it is true and it is a good thing.Justice has the vibes of golden age nijien
>>91723315Well that's just not true. The barbie girls are quite wholesome, especially for vtubers.
>>91723315the liggers have saying she hasn't spoken to them in ages, despite them trying to leech off her with art still, looks like she's finally breaking free from them
>>91725735Full of hidden gems?
>>91725735is golden age lazusidia? everything after that was shit
>>91722846I can’t groom her now that she achieved something
>>91726068Yes exactly that era
Why are /lig/ "people" like this?
>>91726145I have no idea why their thread is still allowed here really, it's all just schizos and they worship fleshtubers
>>91722846She's always stressed, nervous or low energy now. You might think she's being energetic and is having fun but if you take the time to watch how she used to stream, you'll noticed she was more relaxed and happy on her normal streams. It's been months now and she still can't be really herself on stream.
>>91722951She would never have joined Holo if no one was. It was pretty easy to see who were top indies, from the travelers to the beans. I'm surprised no one ever scooped up the corgi
>>91722559they hired people who were vtubing before myth blew up so they maintained their own identities instead of trying to copy shit
>>91724563>can't be missing anything as good as autofisterYou're so wrong it's not even funny.
>>91726486Pretty sure you made all that up but sure, whatever you say. >>91726851Wrong.
>>91722559I'd argue the best talents have been flocking to Hololive for some time. Only this year have red flags been raised. I really can't say any English EN is poor quality.
>>91726937Not really.
>>91727242I get it, you are mad she went corpo. But please don't project your own grievances and anger at her. Just because you are upset doesn't mean she is, no matter how much psychoanalysis of her you think you are doing.
>>91723672She was getting her ass beat by Genichiro
>>91727242She's easily one of the happiest Holos out there, everyone has a bad day and like >>91727476 says you are projecting way too much. I've checked out her old clips and she seems so much happier now she has a real income streaming, and is so much sweeter and closer to her new audience.
>>91722559BrrrrrrapPupsi is a good Kanata to the Coco of Gigi
>>91727476>>91727635Okay sure. You're totally right.
>>91727737Quit repeating that, it was a leather chair squeaking
>>91727756Pfffbfrbrbrt oh yes delicious Pupsi pups hmmm yumyum stinky air from the automaton
Her only debuff is not having a very cute voice, but she can't help that and compensates for it by talking fast and slurring her words in a cute manner
>>91722757Indie shitters have become really fucking annoying lately.
>>91724563>but her current one is still really good No, it's shit. Looks like a Furina rip-off and I don't even like Furina.
>>91722559why is she lafin?
>>91727635>She's easily one of the happiest Holos out there,I get the vibe she's one of those genki types to hide her depression. Felt that way for years.
>>91728387Yes yes you have secret arcane knowledge of her indie days you know her better than everybody she sceretly hates Hololive and YOU are the only one who can truly see it.
>>91728387This, she used to vent more in discord but obviously she hasn't got that outlet any more.
>>91722559Who?
>>91722559we tried telling you for years
>>91728604This but unironically actually.
>>91728604Nobody watcher her when she was an indie, she had like 100 viewers at most. Literally anyone claiming they knew her before are just clip/VOD watchers and faking it.
>>91722743Holy fuck she never farted fuck off
>>91725154are you talking about some other schwarze legende?pic rel doesn't seem to be what you're talking about
>>91728985It was one of the most obvious farts a chuuba has ripped and the vast majority know it. This cope is weirder than the sniffers themselves.
>>91729204Shut up man there are lierally one or two of you degnerate freaks posting about it constantly on this board nobody fucking likes you or wants to hear about it. Stop pretedning you are somebody you aren't and just stop.
>>91722757>Noo how can she pursue her dreams, advance in her career and make a fuckton of money!! Why isnt she catering to MEEEEE??God fucking dammit you fags are so annoying. You're gonna call her your oshi while doing the exact opposite of what that word is supposed to mean, keep her down at the bottom. You're like a fat demented grandma making a scene in a store because her favorite cashier got promoted to manager and doesn't have to wageslave 6x12 hours a week anymore. >my sweet blue indieYeah no, you never cared about her, you're a bandwagoner nigger who probably barely even watched her streams. Kill yourself.
>>91729414Based. owned that fucker
>>91728985Calm down CC.
Did her rm stream in Deutsch?
>>91722743This but unironically.
>>91722559Shondo nepohire
>>91722743this board needs a hero
>>91728899Fun fact if you search the archives for her RM name, roughly half the results are after she announced her graduation.
>>91730299Yes yes Hololive saved her. We know.
>>91729801No she mainly spoke English.
>>91730220do you know what the words you use mean?
>>91728899Small indies are the most likely streamers to viewers who are /here/and you best believe that /here/fags are the second most likely people to be in a schizo bait thread
>>91729483you should lead by example and kill yourself first
>>91722734fpbp
>>91722559/fit/tourist here, are we allowed to talk about her past life?
>>91733939Only through vagueposting, and only in catalog bait threads like these. Don't mention past life in her dedicated thread or Global
>>91722846No Nina.
>>91728985>outs himself by never watching herYWNMI
>>91723225>streams at worse timesodd complaint, first time I see it>can't play what she wants fair I guess, not like her game choices are that much different now anyways>barely any pregame zatsucompletely up to her>can't be as spontaneousoutside of no redeems she still does random obs shenanigans>worse modelthe design is pretty good actually>way worse rigging fair, doesn't really affect her entertainment value though>can't collab with her indie friendsother girls can do it, why couldn't she? miori made an appearance in a bae stream recently and nerissa called into one of her friends's stream as someone else not so long ago>>91723501if you actually watched the person you supposedly care about so much you would know why since she pretty much explained it
>>91724630she is doing her virtual dancing lessons, it's actually funny
>>91722757holodrones didn't like this one
>>91726486>It's been months now and she still can't be really herself on stream.she is the exact same though>low energy>she was more relaxedyou are contradicting yourself you can't even larp properly
>>91725735>golden age nijienoh you mean the same niji ens that were called hololive energy and people wished for yagoo to save them after shit went down
>>91735533>mask offyou don't actually care yeah we know
>>91722559She's just autistic enough
>>91735561Being low-energy is not the same as being relaxed though
>>91722757I watched her too, but realistically this is better for her because she's making more money. Unlike what most people want to believe, 99% of the time it's all about the money. Yes she was free as an indie and arguably better in terms of content, but now she's making shitloads more money which is what will allow her to stream for longer. A lot of indies just can't go full-time streamer because they don't earn enough for that. Her joining THE biggest vtuber corpo is the best case scenario.
>>91739252Besides, if/when she decides to leave, she's going to be automatically boosted to 4view status and get to hang around with all the other big ex corpos.
>>91739560>get to hang around with all the other big ex corposwhat's the point of that?
She's great in every collab with anyone
>>91729414This but unironically. Nobody is that much of a coomer to sniff farts, and if they say they are, they're a liar.
>>91730528Well, yeah. She probably made more in her 1st couple of months in Holo, than she did during her entire indie career.
>>917225591 good hire out of the recent 9 (10 if you count the girl who dropped out) ain't bad, am I right?
