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(reposting because thread died)>>91724411>>91724225For the sake of completeness, here is the same data for Pippa>1161 :: 2022-11-01 to 2022-11-30 (20 streams)>1809 :: 2022-12-01 to 2022-12-31 (19 streams)>1702 :: 2023-01-01 to 2023-01-28 (16 streams)>1926 :: 2023-02-01 to 2023-02-26 (17 streams)>2744 :: 2023-03-01 to 2023-03-31 (20 streams)>2735 :: 2023-04-01 to 2023-04-30 (18 streams)>2685 :: 2023-05-04 to 2023-05-31 (14 streams)>2478 :: 2023-06-01 to 2023-06-30 (19 streams)>2564 :: 2023-07-01 to 2023-07-30 (15 streams)>2095 :: 2023-08-02 to 2023-08-30 (16 streams)>2595 :: 2023-09-01 to 2023-09-30 (20 streams)>2782 :: 2023-10-01 to 2023-10-29 (18 streams)>3257 :: 2023-11-01 to 2023-11-29 (20 streams)>3771 :: 2023-12-01 to 2023-12-23 (7 streams)>4008 :: 2024-01-01 to 2024-01-31 (20 streams)>4640 :: 2024-02-01 to 2024-02-29 (17 streams)>4065 :: 2024-03-01 to 2024-03-31 (19 streams)>2793 :: 2024-04-04 to 2024-04-29 (12 streams)>3791 :: 2024-05-01 to 2024-05-30 (20 streams)>3344 :: 2024-06-05 to 2024-06-30 (10 streams)>2954 :: 2024-07-03 to 2024-07-31 (15 streams)>2384 :: 2024-08-01 to 2024-08-31 (15 streams)>3129 :: 2024-09-01 to 2024-09-29 (18 streams)>2746 :: 2024-10-02 to 2024-10-31 (21 streams)>2352 :: 2024-11-01 to 2024-11-30 (26 streams)>2276 :: 2024-12-01 to 2024-12-14 (13 streams)Pippa is back to her early 2023 numbers
The Prince and Princess of indie vtubing in 2025
>>91724522my Mita is so cute bros...
>>91724522Holy grim thread. Is the Mlsite dev this desperate?
Okay but how do we stop Kiara's free falling, she used to have a floor of 4k at least
>>91724522who is this?
I've been thinking about ReGloss/Flowglow and the 1st army treatment and do you guys remember how Tempus1 got a large amount of collabs from some of HoloEN, and they basically don't even know that Tempus2+ exist? I seem to recall that Mori and Ame(?) said that they remembered how hard it was to start alone in a new branch. I wonder if there's a sort of expectation that after the first gen they should be able to stand on their own somewhat.I don't know if this was the case with HoloID, but it did seem like Myth got much more JP collabs than Council did.
>>91724479please reply to me I thought it was interesting but the thread died
>>91724614You can start by returning to global
>>91724614This but Pippa >>91724574
Who the fuck is OP? Where the fuck is Fauna?
from 100k ccv to barely beating roboco and holoIDthe story of desuwa needs to be studied
>>91724364shocking
>>91724604Version 1 Mita is bestestest Mita
>>91724574>pippa reclined when justice debuted
>>91724637I mean it's not a controversial opinionThe only difference here is the male characters' feelings aren't hurt by their supporters virtue signalling while not spending as much so there're less people hurt overall
>>91724636Whoever is the producer of ReGloss/FlowGlow probably doesn't want them to overly rely on the main branch and instead build their own audience. To them, Raden and Hajime are the ideals for the branch to emulate. At least the JP are taking them under their wings offline.
Nerissa's numbers are very weird because she gets 2.5-3.5k in Advent collabs and other mass collabs. Then on other occations she can easily just start a stream and get 5k on overlap or 1-on-1 dual stream collabs, while other moments she can effortlessly get 10k for solo streams and her karaokes are near 20k
>>91724522any recomended miside stream?
Kiara is the new runt
BASED
>>91724614>Kiara 3klol
>>91725047when will youtube ban ars?
>>91724637You aren't completely wrong, but that problem in gacha sphere exist because of Genshin.
>>91725047How do they find out?
>>91725127Never, they only care about premium getting ARS’d
>kiara live>dead threadeverytime
>>91724962https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2328643863?t=0h23m59s
>>91724522We hate kiara
Kiara talking about having cosplayers send her exclusive videos.
>>91725047isn't that the phillipines flag?
>>91724894>she can effortlessly get 10k for solo streamsThis pretty much never happens
>>91725261no
>>91725047Literally just perm ban the gifter. Should be obvious who it is.
>>91725277You omitted>other momentsSonic, holocure, family streams
Nessie
>>91725247Hane .... just ..... just ..... just hire a similarly looking prostitute and get it out of your system!
>>91725328A family stream is not a solo stream, she didn't get 10k for Holocure,leaving you with one single 10k solo stream
>>91725209god just imagine her nagging you that shit needs to get done around the house
>>91725047i can`t believe ARS is still allowedtoo many peeps still abusing this shit for attention
>>91725336All internet normie memes are downstream of racist posters on /pol/ and twitter ten years ago
The absolute fucking state of this thread
>>91724637genshit popularized gacha and it has homos out of the box, also hoyo pretty much owns the anime mobile gacha market its a losing war over there
>>91725424Yeah, it's kind of absurd really
if Nerissa didn't pander to ERB during debut who do you think ERB will end up with? no homos
>dozens of EN small corpos closing>Vshojo in tatters, Ironlung is a 5k shitter now>Phase/Pippa's numbers started declining too>HoloEN shitting itself with management issues, graduations and concerts failing to sell out >Dookie is doing worse than when she was at Niji despite the drama buffCan it be denied that EN vtubing isn't dying at this point? Nijichads dodged a bullet with the Dookie drama. It couldn't have happened at a better time. They would probably make less money than what they're doing right now if they were still misguided in investing in EN like Cover still is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6HAsMK6p4w&t=180https://x.com/baovtuber/status/1868067404473049348https://x.com/baovtuber/status/1867990887395217881https://x.com/baovtuber/status/1867987229832073569
>>91725660No one
>>91725663>WeThere's only two niggas here, you and me, and I like Kiara
I love them both so much
>>91725395Reassess your numbers anon. Nerissa regularly gets random streams close to 10k, about twice every month. 8-9k around 4 times a month. She goes a little over 10k after a raid
>Rica covered the Uno songHearing her call me an idiot in English...https://youtu.be/uYhi_PQQm1k
Ah yes regulation surely THE GOVERNMENT will save us from the free market
>>91725703>ligger: Take the indie pill>the indie pill
>>91725703Who asked
>Fauna>remnants of the remnants of the Fauna raid>Fauna raid>remnants of Fauna raid
I love Fauna
CUTE
>>91725702>Lost 20 million dollars
>>91725703thats a lot of fucking words im not reading that
>>91725779Reassess yours, she almost never gets 10k on solo streams and you were only able to provide a single example. Why are you moving the goalposts to sub 10k when your lie got called out? She almost never reaches 10k on solo streams without a raid.
>>91725576We have families in this thread, anonUnlike global, which stays relatively fast during holiday break (but still dips desu), we go down a lot in that time (much like CCV btw)
>>91725576Now post the contents in lig, pcg and nijiEN.
>>91725843amesame was the only ship that I liked, their chemistry was so good, take me back to better times...
>>91725866You really should it talks about how the vtuber scene lacks quailty outside the Big Three.
>>91724575that would be Kiara and Porcelainmaid though
>>91725703This is the cesspit fauna is willingly throwing herself into
>>91725843It's insane that South East Asian men will go online and talk like teenage kpop stans. America has done unforgivable things to the world.
>check streams for today>ERB got Rissa to rewatch the Promise musical despite Nerissa watching it live.>The thumbnail is BloodRaven propaganda https://x.com/ERBloodflame/status/1869055196128838087>check who made the thumbnail. https://x.com/paw_chie/status/1865501477558726892>It's the same person who is trying to steal Jailbirds from Nerissa for ERB, since ERB doesnt have a mascot https://x.com/paw_chie/status/1865082321747218599>Turns out to be a flip https://x.com/paw_chieEVERY SINGLE TIME
>>91725703Bao is finding out the realities of doing business and now wants the government to create regulations cause her dumb ass can’t stop getting scammed.
>>91725938They should get off the internet and go back to the sulfur mines, yeah
>>91725703Retarded woman now selling her body on fansly expects us to understand that she was capable of making right decision and chose right people. DOUBT
>>91725703How many times has she been scammed? This is like the 5th time she complained about getting scammed. Maybe it's her that has a problem?
>>91725989>Retarded woman now selling her body on fanslywhy is this always the default action for woman
>>91725949How is it possible that all BloodRavenfags are flips?
>>91725703
*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>12/17 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)4.013: Dokibird (Indie) | Variety Stream2.239: Fulgur (Nijisanji) | Just Chatting1.639: Bettel (Holostars) | Week in Review1.417: Bettel (Holostars) | Marvel Rivals1.359: Meloco (Nijisanji) | The Quarry1.339: Reimu (Nijisanji) | Buckshot Roulette w/ Enna, Millie, Ren1.138: Panko (Phase-Connect) | Variety Stream1.123: Lia (Phase-Connect) | Variety Stream
>>91726021Simps are easy money. I met one before and they will literally drop 20-50 bucks a month just for a girl to text and send them pictures.
>>91725949beggars are pathetic but Rissa needs to stop that too...
>>91725161when you gift 50 memship on a 2view stream they gonna notice from the shit payout they're getting
>>91725703Isn't she part of Mystic? Doesnt she get their protection or some shit?
>>91726021like all big twitch indies have fansly nowadays
>>91725703How should I make this about defending CEOs and their investors because this vtubers is not in my favotire company?
>>91725703Summary:Many VTubers are exploited by unregulated companies and fake managers who scam them, and pursuing justice is too costly and draining. Speaking out is risky, but staying silent allows these scams to keep happening.
>>91726090Mythic doesn’t do shit, they basically just act as a middleman to get you a raid shadow legend sponsor
>>91726021>>91725989Bao doesn't have an Fansly your thinking of Sinder.
>>91726017She is traying to do stuff way above her league
>>91726076we unironically need another world war with a draft
>>91726152>Bao doesn't have an Fansly
LMAO Who cares about some Twitch Whore?
>>91726152>he doesn’t know
>>91725047She is right and it's actually a legit funny thing one could do>flood chat with ars gifts left and right, blocking almost all people who would be interested with ars memberships>it's only 50 ars per membership, so 0.05 dollars>at most 70% of that will go to the channel, probably less if they're in a corp>then taxesThey're almost losing money on it
>>91726152bao has had a fansly for some time now lmao
>>91725703>how unregulated things areGirl that's literally true of every market, I'm not defending scammers but its true that scammers exist in literally every field, and it's on you to sus them out.Would the industry benefit from some kind of BBB ratings board, yeah sure, but still! Do research!
>>91726076Could literally be a crossdressing dude, since only texts and photos are needed.
>>91726199Gura and Gigi should take turns pressing their sweaty spats against my face
>>91725703If she isn't going to bother to pursue them legally then just name and shame them unless she knows opening up that route would make the other company dig into their own receipts and show that she is an absolute retard
>>91726215Theoretically if it gets too overwhelming a smart vtuber will have good cause to bring it up on the pretext of replying to someone in chat (because someone WILL comment), and then people can compensate with SCs
I'm watching kiara
>>91725843I like that ship
>>91726304wrong thread
>>91726304wtf
>>91726304Right thread
>>91726215>it's actually a legit funny thingIt's scamming, actually, I don't think taking someone's income away is all that funny in this case.Closest you can get to robbery without actually stealing
>>91726304good, we like all holos here
I am watching horror movie video essays while waiting for CC
>>91726304>Watching a runt
>>91726130What the fuck do you think why 4chan /vt/ /#/ only advocate Hololive as the industry standard? And it's not like Hololive is perfect either. So that's why you either stay an indie or join Hololive.These girls claim that they did their own fucking research yet still got scammed. It's their own fucking problem. They are also not smart enough to pursue legal actions or any other means. So clearly they are dumb sheeps ripe for harvest by unscrupulous businessman.
>>91726176>>91726200>>91726235I checked her links on her channel again no fansly. Bao likes to make lewd jokes and such but she never make an fansly she even get upset at chat if they sex jokes sometimes.
>>91726215>>91725047>0.05 USDwait what
>>91726381It's funny if it happens to a bad person though or someone I don't like.
>>91726449https://x.com/h0ejousamaretard
>>91726449bait
>>91725989But Noel did the same and for the most part she has made the right decisions and chosen the right people
Kiara 8k when?
>>91726536women with big boobs are smarter
>>91726130>staying silent allows these scams to keep happening.4chan vt has so many cases of vtubers scamming and getting scammed archived. It's literally your own fault for not doing market research or reading the contracts.
>>91726502Damm nevermind lost of bit of respect from Bao Ngl.
>>91726536Noel has a university degree
>>91726536Nobody could explain why Noel and Flare broke up after covid tho.
>>91726593Ever since her fans reacted positively to her flesh reveal she’s been pushing it harder. she looks better with the mask on and she knows it which is why she never takes it off
I know the thread darling is graduating on pretty rocky terms with Hololive, but the mental of this thread has been horrendous for the past few days. Please take a break and do some irl activities anon, I care about you
>>91726647i still dont get why they are so hyped about seeing a fat asian womanjust watch emiru or something, hotter than that hambeast
>>91726651Its literally just the trannycord raid, 5x a day.
>>91726152>>91726449https://gofile.io/d/nbOM9A
only hololive is vtubingeverything else is not vtubing
>>91726304
>>91726684Emuri at least has an ounce of self respect. Bao does not and would likely sleep with a fan if they paid enough
>>91726734Bigger
>>91726593You respected her at all?After her "lol guys are cucks and give us money" tweet?
>>91726710dont you have the audios?
>>91726684>why they are so hyped about seeing a fat Asian womanTo be fair if i were to be a degen for a bit, "chubby asian nerd girl with clinginess issues and a self description as 'hyperaroused' who looks hot as fuck with a mask on" is kind of like a holy grail of "damn I could hit"
>>91726651Don't worry they will jump ship soon. Monkeys are not loyal to trees.
>>91726684Because ethots figured out that lonely vtuber fans are very easy and have very low standards for women. That’s why they vtube for like a month before they start teasing their fleshie shit and by that point whatever fans they have are already hooked.
>>91726790And that about sums up why I hate 90% of Twitch vtubers, because they are all exactly this. Thots and semi fleshtubers.
>>91725703Does she realize the thing she is complaining about is the same thing that allows vtubers to make so much money - it being the wild west out there where anyone anywhere can stream across borders and jurisdictions to anyone able to access youtube or twitchRegulation doesn't come from good Samaritans going 'awww won't someone save the cute widdle vtubers', it comes from someone realizing there's money to be made from doing it, and if you're really, really lucky, it ends up being a win-win situationTell her there's going to be a 20% cut from all vtubers to fund 'regulators' and watch her change her tune instantly
>>91726651Tell this to the catalog monkeys
>>91726766>a self description as 'hyperaroused'liggers are literally too dumb to be real lmfao
>>91726736That reminds me how Mark Cuban keeps trying to get into Pokimane’s pants
>>91724690>100 pages document>it was just iposcam bots>99 blank pages follow
>>91726130>Ui didn't have this problem>Patra didn't have this problem>Ririsya didn't have this problemSeems like Hololive connections are great compared to those over at Twitch?
>>91726844Listen man when you're horny you don't really careLike I don't particularly care about or watch her but would I hit? Yes, no duh
>>91726870it is more like real vtubers (i.e. youtube vtubers) are smarter since youtube requires skill
>>91726844Shion makes me hyperaroused
>>91726835I don't care about the catalogue tho, I don't care about /vt/ outside of this thread
new viewing experience
>>91726870>Japanese The western countries are a bit more unscrupulous when it comes to scamming women that barely have a highschool degree because they can't read
>Fauna and the Broken Promise>Chloe playing by herself, HoloX basically a 3-man band, with La+ somehow still here>Marine basically went "yeah desu I didn't really know Chloe that well" despite collabing with her for 3 yearsAt this point the only gens I can trust are those who really knew each other prior to Hololive like Gamers, or ones that bonded over shared trauma like Gen 5.
>>91727098Holox>La+ is on twitch>Lui ruined her carreer>Koyori is still going full speed ahead>Chloe gone>Iroha dying
>>91727098>Chloe playing by herselfdamn that's sad
>>91727098Which girls talked about hanging out with Chloe off stream, non-off collab?
>>91726870Japan has a far superior infrastructure to support independent creators, if you want any creative work done in the US on a commission base system, you're FUCKED, the entire system is just a bunch of incredibly unreliable freelancers
>>91727190Iroha, Koyori, Kanata & Azki
>>91727213Oh, also Lamy
>>91727098Advent is very close on Gen unity but obviously they are not all the best of friends, more so friendlier than most coworkers. Biboo and FWMC will most likely grow to be very close though, now that they are physically in the same spot.
>>91727271If you would make an Advent relation chart, then the least think relationship would be Shiori-FuwaMoco which is still pretty thick regardless
>>91727190Lui used to be chummy with her and slept together during trips to Disney and at home, at least for the first year. Koyori hung out with her a lot, going on trips together. Probably the closest thing to a friend Sakamata had in Hololive.Kanata and Lamy are also close enough to exchange daily texts on Line.I think Sakamata was initially motivated for the first year or so, but the death of her grandma, then the ghost incident, coupled with her own health issue and increasing work load destroyed her physical/mental health and any motivation she might have had for this job. Unless you have a goal (sololive, sponsorships) you're working toward to, or just content with your lot and management style, staying in Hololive is probably a tough deal.
>>91726870>It's hololive's fault for not sharing contacts
>>91727319 (me)*the least thick relationship
>>91727098>>Fauna and the Broken PromiseTrying too fucking hard, Fauna has no problems with Promise, no one is buying your stupid narrativeChloe has been insular since her debut. This is nothing new, she was the closest with Kanata and Iroha, Kanata already went menhera thrice over her grad and Iroha is on break
>>91727063In countries like Japan if you fuck up you become persona non grata, all the doors start slamming shut on you, there are no second chancesIn western countries it seems way easier to disappear and start again somewhere else with a clean slate
>>91727356If you can interpret it as that you are probably retarded.
>>91727098>Marine basically went "yeah desu I didn't really know Chloe that well" despite collabing with her for 3 yearsTimestamp nigga
>>91726710>People pay for thisHow far civilization has fallen...
>>91727411You can just freelance and if really want the illusion of being legit. With a couple hundred dollars you can register for a business anywhere in the U.S
>>91724522Been busy with the new BD2 patch since I got home from work, so anything interesting happen over the last 12 hours or so?
>>91727411Just look at that Jew that scammed a bunch of top indies, forgot what the group was called, MSM?He had previously scammed a bunch of podcasters and no one bothered to background check this guy when signing up for his agency. Though I supposed a bunch of conflict adverse, autistic woman are the easiest marks. All he had to say was “hey, I’m autistic and like games too!” and they trusted him.
>>91726763Merry christmashttps://coomer.su/fansly/user/665110462043533312they're mid as hell
That "Engineer"?Me.
>>91727695Towa found a new boyfriend already?
>>91725047twitch already had this yab with turkish pesos and they fixed it by upping the cost to $2 minimum for every currency. YT should do sometimes similar.
>>91725703>And for everyone asking me, Bao, why don't you just get a manager? It was my manager who scammed me lol. HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>91727763They did...for YouTube Premium kekSave ourselves but fuck all the streamers am I right
How the fuck do they even justify keeping these dudes around
-> NYC SPY HEREThe Terminator is melting down!>Roboco sends her regards, boasting about the longevity of her robotic model!<- NYC SPY OUT!
>>91728025Cover is indeed losing money over the homos and have been cutting back on their spending after their last ditch effort to promote them. I think they are going to be phased out sooner or later due to the backlash by their own toxic fanbase.
>>91728119He took up a job as mall Santa?
>v1c3 part 3>cliffhanger againI hate blueballing so fucking muchplease tell me next part is the finale
>>91727763No they shouldn't. I enjoy having my 9 memberships with Lira.
>Add subs for Ye Olde English>Don't add subs for JP songsNerissa and ERB are kinda calling them out too, kek.
>>91728226>keep asking chat to explain the songkek
>>91728226nips and not taking international expansions seriously until they get owned by other countries...
>On one hand, yeah forcing it is generally bad, and there are talents who don't wish to work with the boys (which is fine).>On the other hand Stars won't grow without more eyes on them, so they need to be in more events with the girls cus that's easiest way for it to happen.>...>That is true, however collabing with the girls gets more eyes on them which can lead to growth, and short of huge ad campaigns and events (which would flop) there isn't any other way to increase the Stars fan base beyond the small bubble it has.>...>My belief is that we're it not for the segregation of Stars vs Live, and many of the talents insistence on not collabing with Stars, than they would have more opportunity to gain new viewers.>Mind that I think the girls are well within their right to do so, but it is harmful.This can only be one of you mongoloids LARPing and false flagging.
>>91728160S e x
>>91728025It's difficult to just get rid of them without receiving backlash so the best they can do is just slowly nudge them into quitting.
>>91728303why is it not harmful for the girls but harmful for the boys??
>>91726451so that is around 25 ads on youtube for the gaming niche per membership to put it into perspective (depends on your audience, gaming as a whole gets dragged down by all the kids so if you dont have kids in your audience this will be a lower number)
>>91728303>I think the girls should have autonomy but…This is like the beggar equivalent of>Im not a racist but…
>>91728226>JP scrips for the English voice packs >No EN scrips for the JP voice packs but yeah dude lets subs Hologra in 4 different types of Chinese, Cover is not very bright
>>91725047Does their currency still exist?I thought the new Argentinian dude moved them back to the dollar.
>more people watching Kiara than Nerissa and ERBI thought shipping was a buff...
>>91728303>The girls could have the personality of cardboard and still get higher views and sub counts than any of Stars, it's handed to them at this point (not that they have it easy, I think you get the point I'm making).(the homo fan to holoan pipeline never fails to deliver)>My suggestion to help the guys grow would be to involve them in more big events and other small collabs with the girls. >Not all of them of course, but this would give both branches opportunities to permeate fans from one side to the other, as the fan base is also divided as is.>...>I'm actively against forcing collabs, so don't put words in my mouth. >I also don't think anywhere near 80% of the girls are strictly against collabing with the guys. >There have been exceptionally few large scale collabs involving Stars, at least EN side.(People who watch Hololive prefer to watch girls more than boys)>Those kinds of fans are unhealthy for the community for both sides. A plague even. >That's also a generalized statement about all fans that applies to a pretty small minority in all honesty.If the homos had ANY introspection and could reassess the fanbase they ended up cultivating they would EXPLICITLY DENOUNCE retards like this and ban anyone in their chat homobegging. >but they won't because the agree with this bloke, leeching is the way (or so they think)
>>91728425Remember when they didn't give that Nintendo museum tour thing English subs, but they gave it Spanish subs?
>>91728303This hurts to read... so he acknowledges that the girls DON'T want anything to do with the homos, and that it probably won't help them grow even if forced to, but despite that, still thinks that they should be forced to do it, because even if they don't want, that small chance that it becomes beneficial to them is worth stopping over the girls autonomy?
>>91728303I don't watch stars or follow them but it's clear their only option is to Collab with people outside hololive. Though the real fundamental issue is that most EN vtuber fans don't care for male vtubers much. why watch male vtubers when they can watch all the popular male streamers/YouTubers.
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>>91728303>>91728471The more I read this the more I think feminism has a point
>>91728471>If the homos had ANY introspection and could reassess the fanbase they ended up cultivating they would EXPLICITLY DENOUNCE retards like this and ban anyone in their chat homobegging.See, the thing is, for that to happen, the homos themselves would have to see this as a negative thing, they don't.the homos themselves are the reason things as are they're right now, they want to collab with the holos, but knows they will never give them the time of day, so their only hope is that the their fans harass the girls enough that they eventually give in (they won't)
>>91725576slow /#/ is a comfy /#/ anonenjoy it while it lasts
>>91727772chu chu chuuuuu
>>91728303The homos just can’t work no amount of collab leeching can help them, why watch those fags when the fleshies have much more popular male streams that are actually funny
>>91725703As with everything else, people with vision have to be the ones that forms the core of the company.For Hololive, Sora and A-chan were the ones with the idea, Yagoo was merely a vehicle for fulfilling that idea.With the addition of more girls, the idea of "Hololive" has evolved, and taken a while to form as a "core" - but that core is now steadying itself for a big leap.Using this method caused the talents themselves have both a stake, AND a responsibility in shaping or helping shape what the company is to become.This is why hags like Foobs or Mio urged all the holos who were on the verge of giving up to keep going for a bit longer.Most of these EN micro corps are formed around the idea of a CEO who just wants to cash in on a trend with no idea about what he wants to do or how he wants to do it.They just grab talents from wherever, put them together and just hope for the best.There is no core vision, no boundary separating the idea of "their" corp from any of the other micro corps. And something that's not unique, will not feel special.VTubing is supposed to be an "art" not a simple job where you do transactions of audience intimacy in return for money. The big players already provide that - and much more.In a corpo whose "idea" is the CEO going "iunno, I just thought virtual e-girls = money" how can you expect any of their talents to stick to that corpo through thick and this, or even urge other talents to do so? If you don't have a core, a method, or an idea in which to believe in, why would you stay in one corpo when you get a better paying job either irl or in another VTubing company?Companies can evolve just like streamers. You could recruit a group of 5 to be "funny League-playing VTubers" with a close-knit vibe (no esports shit). That niche went unfilled for so long that holos have started to encroach into it themselves with Gigi leading the way. You don't need to stick to that idea, but once you have an idea of what the "core" of your group will be, you can shape the company and future recruits around that idea, and build a decent enough niche for yourself.Hell, simply having longevity of like 2-3 years (and promising more) would be enough to get many once-burned people to invest (but obviously, with such promises come more responsibility to that audience as well).Phase is pretty much the only company that has survived this purge, off the back of the core idea of utterly mentally ill women and not giving a fuck about "perms" or anything like that due to being an American company (an advantage that most other corpos have not used to their full extent). But even their brand is on a tightrope - with Pippa's fans feeling the pull of the idea of the company splitting more and more from the idea of what Pippa used to be - the type of utterly unfiltered Pippa that initially attracted them.And Pippa is around whom the original idea of Phase was formed, so any splits with either her or the "old her" will be quite a violent schism. If it happens.Or maybe Pippa is happy with the current idea of the company and is fine matching her energy with that.Time will tell.In any case, no small VTuber company survives for very long because all of them are simply grifters who are in for some quick cash, and none of them so far have had any core idea or niche around which they tried to build. It's best if it comes from a group of talents themselves going to a CEO to form a partnership, but the second best way is to have a core cast which at least BELIEVES in the vision of the CEO - in more than a simple monetary sort of way.Until some or the other company figures it out (it will likely be some non-Japanese company from Asia) the EN VTubing scene will continue to be this churning popcorn of small players.
>>91728459That might be the long-term plan, but what he did when he got into office instantly slash its value in half. Having it instantly go from $1=400ARS to $1 =800ARS and it's currently around 1k.
>>91728572On the part of keeping men away from female spaces? Absolutely but that ceased to be a "feminist" talking point long ago>third wave feminists are "intersectional" and included men in dresses in their ranks>second wave feminists were "cast out" and are now part of the "fascist nazi white supremacist" along with anyone the rest of the old timer liberals that are anti war, pro women and anti oligarchs, and all of that because they STILL hate men in their spaces
>>91728303All I can think of when I read this, is how Ollie went all out to do what he's talking about, and now she's used up they just toss her aside like a wrung-out rag and it's like she never existed or did anything
>>91728549Watching some fag with some fujobait avatar is not something I will ever have on my radar. I think this is always why some guys like vedal are a lot more socially acceptable to like cause he just portrays himself as a turtle and does flesh shit in a green suit with a mask.
>>91728681Someone with access to GPTs, summarise this in 30 or less words
>>91728700its a bit fun that SEX WORK = WORK used to get you exiled from feminist circles is now a mainstream talking point
>>91728682all he did setting the ARS free to match the black market price instead of artificially trying to control it
>>91728303anon..have you not seen them in the wild?they are unironically THAT retardedwhy do you think we call them mono mendigo?
>>91728572We love girls, feminism and sisterhood in this thread. /#/ is the pro-girl thread.
>>91728718Ollie failed so she's useless
Now this is my /dicksanddrama/
>>91728749I remember when it happened, pretty much overnight the narrative went from>there is no consensual sex possible between a john and a prostitute and prostitution is ALWAYS rape because it is an inherently coercive relationship where one side oppresses the other with money instead of threats of violenceto>sex work is work too and it EMPOWERS womenWithout moving an inch in my ideals I went from traditional liberal to fascist, (multiracial) white supremacist and naziI just wanted to play video games, that's all I can say
>>91728733Yeah it's clear that just like most female vtubers have a majority male audience most male vtubers probably have a large female audience. The thing is there's probably way less female viewers then there are male especially in the English streaming sphere. Male vtubers are just not appealing to male audience so they are missing out on the biggest demographic.
I came back to see you guys talking about THAT tweet as predicted. Well new flash, the first qrt already tried to explain that to the poster but as usual it didn’t work
>>91728303>Live*sigh*
>>91728682I was lied too, i like to listen to spanish freestyle rap battles and the Argentians always coping that their Peso is the most stable coin all this year...... is their government lying to them or they tired of getting dunked on for their inflations?
>>91728911Sorry thread police, you'll have to sit this one out while people dunk on the homos for a couple of hours.
>>91728739tldr> small corpos have zero vision/idea/core whatever you want to call it> that vision is what keeps talents inside YOUR corpo and not instantly jumping to the better paying neighbor (or an irl job)> none of the EN corpos have had a combination of CEO + talent who BOTH believe in their vision for the company long term
>>91728954I would give it to them because it is stable in the sense it is following a very predictable glideTake the Brazilian Real now for instance>pic relatedthey're getting pounded hard and without any predictability, that fucks a market worse than a slow glide
When i see IRyS in 3D dancing my head just naturally leans to the side like im trying to peak under the dress and see more.....
Rica uno cover is dead in the algo
>>91728966I get the general gist but I completely missed the quip about Phase, a company that survived this far on 1) the backs of a single talent that would likely be better off without the company2) the mercy of the Gods who allowed for infinite girls to fall out from former corpus (Tsunderia, Cyberlive) to land at their feet
>>91728903It's like a kid trying to turn his water into soda by mixing it with sodaInstead he just gets a diluted drink he spits out after a few sips, then he finds a fresh bottle of soda and does the whole thing again
>>91728932I am pretty fucking certain that, traditional Minecraft YouTuber do the whole male Vtuber thing better than actual male Vtuber>Every player build up this whole character and niche>Based their entire content around it>Joined big SMP and create content with other dudes>Literally have Minecraft skin as their personaThey don’t even try to fujobait, yet women like them anyway, because their persona are “super cool” to them
>>91728954I just looked it up and it seems he is curbing inflating as they are now at 2.4% inflation per month. That isn't great but it's definitely lower then what it was before he took office.
>>91728394PETER GODS!!
>>91729114>I am pretty fucking certain that, traditional Minecraft YouTuber do the whole male Vtuber thing better than actual male VtuberYou are absolutely correct>I'm one that watches that type of stuff, specially from technical minecraft blokesbut even there the market is saturated as fuck. There is a couple of crews (like Shulkercraft or Hermitcraft), or individuals like Voltrox with channels that get good traction but, for the rest of the thousands of smaller creators, it's a long tail similar to male vtubers
>>91729114The majority of men would rather watch a disembodied male voice over videos then a guy with a facecam and especially a pretty boy anime avatar. Brotubers can never exist because they are inherently opposed to the audience they seem to be targeting.
>>91729117His plan is very funny because in practice it's turning into this>you can have inflation if people don't have anything to use money on anymore
>>91729114>minecraft youtubers who explicitly fujobait without talking about dicks and cum like nijisanji would have been much more successful with women than>brotubers who talk about dicks and cum like nijisanjibut I imagine the thought process was>brotubers that guys want to watch who talk about dicks and cum the way women likeso they ended up with nothing
>>91728160T o T
>>91729110Dumb little shits should know you can only do that with chocolate bars
>>91729101To be fair, it's like Might Guy says, luck is a very important skill in success
>>91729285>Brotubers can never exist because they are inherently opposed to the audience they seem to be targeting.It's not just that and I disagree with your initial take on "disembodied male voice over".The biggest problem for male anything is that it's an "embarrassment of riches"; why the fuck would anyone want to watch a male vtuber when there is no shortage of male content creators with excellent content in every possible niche, like>Rick Beato, for those who like music production>Tom Scott, for those who like pedestrian takes on science and curiosities about the subject>Rick Steves, for those who like good takes on Euro tourismand so on and so forth.The only reason we holo blokes are content with the Holo girls is NOT because of the content they provide but because the content they provide plus the company they keep plus the fact they're dumb and that warms our fatherly heart >or, in some other blokes case, their coomer nether parts
>>91728303>>91728471how about the homos actually put in some effort and try to be entertaining make something people want to tune in for instead of relying on collabs
>>91725930Her Holo manager was already scamming her
In other news, Twitch is trying to leech Vtubers again
Why are her graphs like that?
>>91729526>Suisei>FuwamocoCover should sue for false use of IP
>>91729431I heard this a long time ago and I still like to tell this tale when explaining potential trainees what's the greatest quality an applicant to one of the positions in our company must haveHere is a paraphrase>Whenever I get a stack of resumes, I throw half of them in the trash>I surely don't want any unlucky people on my team!Not a direct quote and it was sexier when I first heard it but that has the gist of the matter
>>91729526Like, worse than usual apparently
>>91729526Kek HoloEN is not enough for them? You would think they would at least actually check which HoloJP DOES do Twitch stream
>>91729101Luck is another form of talent.Fishman is steering the company well, but I feel like even they have issues between selecting their direction - and considering the addition of their JP branch, and how distant it feels from most of the core ENs - it just feels like they should stop, take stock, resolve the Pippa issue once and for all, and then move along.
CC [KUUKIYOMI 4] streamhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tpelW4q_puAhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tpelW4q_puAhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tpelW4q_puA
>>91729526It's whatever because at the end of the day they are getting promoted.
>>91725949oh god..ERB fanbase..please.. be more creative
>>91729477they do try (look at their D&D game, reaching out to VCR, offcollabs, collabs with small corpos, home3D stuff). they either suck so much that no one wants to watch them or there's no audience for this style of content.
>>91729675Not watching
>>91729626He’s growing the company too fast and like you said, the Pippa problem is a timebomb that hasn’t gone off yet
>>91728966Plus the fact that Vtubing is still a novelty market in the west.30k holoEN box 3-4k NijiEN micro corpos won't be able to survive with these scraps despite the stronger USD currency because the investors will leave and the CEO will disband and run die to it being not profitable or scalable in the long run.
>>91725949At this point I hope it explode in nerissa face because she lets ERB leech from her WAY TOO MUCH. Only that would teach her to stop that.
>>91725949ERB better eat the living shit out of Nerissa when they finally meet, she owes Rissa her entire presence in Hololive
>>91729675I'll watch
>>91729526>Best Music VtuberNever even stream in Twitch.Twitch yab. Holy shit.
>>91729526hololive make a twitch account for every holomem even if they will never use it.
>>91729841>3-4k NijiENNah, I would give you the whole argument but NIjiEN woes are a self inflicted wound.Had they stuck with "HoloEN-lite" from Lazulidya days OR stuck with "male gigolos" from LuxNoc era they could be in a much better shape but then they thought "diversity is our strength" or whatever and debuted mixed waves and fucked everything for every side of their branch
What in the fuck?
>>91729526Isn’t that just the winners from the Twitch award thing?
>>91729979my finger slipped
>>91729979Not the first time, check for fleshstreamer raids. The most unexpected thing is>playing Palworld in Dec 2024
>>91729626He's not doing a terrible job, but I'd argue that he also isn't doing much in general.There's a lot of that whole, "let them do what they want and just run the company" going on, from what I've seen. Which works. But in the case of Pippa, they use much more active barriers. I do think she realizes that if she went Indie, she'd end up burning out like the rest of the IBS scene (seriously like half of them are cocksucking ketamine addicts now and I don't mean that as an insult, I mean it as a pure descriptor)
>3kholoEN really is dead
>>91725703And people wonder why most of the girls are plenty happy in hololive. At least they don't have to deal with this bullshit on their own.
>>91730072Overlap hell
>>91729569I know the story, although I do consider it to be a bad idea generally, if only because dropping unlucky people could cause some kind of luck backlash at some point. But yes, it's something to be aware of.
DON'T PLAY A FUCKING JRPG CC!!!!
>>91729988Yeah, but they're also implying that Suisei and FuwaMoco are TWITCH STREAMERS by using the Twitch equivalent to the @function.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppqHuIZ94lMkinooo
>>91725703Bao feels like a corpo plant who is used as a walking advertisement for why going indie is not preferable
>>91726536Noel isn’t retarded, she just acts like it for fun. Better example would be Mel, she’s dumb as fuck, but surprisingly shrewd regarding legal and financial matters.
>>91729841Hololive started off like a micro corpo too anon. Especially among the JP VTuber boom where the 4 Heavenly Kings, .Live and later Nijisanji felt like unstoppable juggernauts.JP industry went through its churn, and now you have the 2 big ones - and more recently VSPO - with several smaller indies and microcorps in JP.In EN, they are still undergoing the churn.HoloEN has a solid hold (like Nijisanji did in the JP market) but it doesn't mean that they are invincible, or that there's no more room left in the industry.People with the hunger to try and carve out their niche simply haven't arrived yet - and most of those that do end up being individual chuubas who often just get absorbed into Holo, like Biboo or Fwmc.
>>91725703Honestly the fact that Fauna is going to be collabing with these people in less than a month is the last black pill I needed
>>91729531Could be ad breaks.
>>91730356Be less obvious vermin
>>91726536You do know that Noel is one of the most clever Holomem's right? She is incredibly tech-savy and has a, i think it was, medical degree.
>>91730125I don't do that for real as I would get tore a new one by HR.I only do one single check before binning a CV>last two employees Usually we publish a series of tech keywords we want our applicants to be proficient in. If they were not used in their previous two job positions it's an immediate>noFor instance, imagine we ask for>MySQL experiencepast two employment histories have>MS SQL Server>OracleI understand perfectly that the applicant could EASILY learn the (minor) differences on job site but for a senior position we require the person to be fully proficient on day one>and pay accordinglyFor junior positions the selection is not as strict, we take even hobbyists. One of my pride hires was a bloke straight out of high school and a vocational training program. His CV had zero experience and only his Counter Strike clan site as experience in the areaI took a look at his CS site, called him to an interview, dude was REALLY GOOD!Worked for us for 3 years then a bigger company poached him. He asked very meekly>such and such company is making a job proposal, I don't know what to doto which I answered>TAKE IT YOU DAMN FOOL!>we will never be able to match their offer and, for me personally, it's a big honor to have given the chance to such a talented bloke he gets poached like thisTo this day I tell this history, my biggest professional pride (outside of the thousands of stuff I did myself)
>>91730069At the end of the day, Pippa will have to choose whether she's fine being stable with a few edges sanded off her, or if she wants to retain that edginess and lead an unstable life.I think the first choice will be better for both herself and phase in the long run imo. Kinda like how Pekora transformed from an NND troll into the comedic genius she is now.
>>91729968Yea so it's basically on crutches due to poor management. But it's still surviving compared to other microcorpos.
>>91730338but that assumption only works if you think that the EN scene has the same capacity for growth as the JP one, when in reality Japanese people will always be far more open to watching vtubers than westerners
>>91730393>i think it was, medical degree.Chemistry
>>91730444>But it's still surviving compared to other microcorpos.IMO not for long. They're on a express train to "merge town" specially considering the only three channels with any growth in the past 12 months were>Shu>Meloco>Vantacrow
>>91730491Excuse my mistake
>>91730448EN was a mistake
>>91729567>>91730161I opened the website for you, I know you're scared your SEA data plan will get syphoned by le boogeyman website
>>91725905I like Amesame because it was a genuine, special connection between two girlsA lot of the shit you see now from people like Nerissa feels like lowest common denominator pandering to insufferable twitter users who just want everything to be gayIt's cheap and borderline insulting
>>91730444>>91730497From last thread, here is something that baffled me:>Twisty and Ryona are outranged by EVERY HOLOSTAR in the median of peak CCV rankingThey're getting outranking by FUCKING UYU (!).Vox, the former pride of the branch, is getting outranked by fucking Roberu! It can't get any more grim for NijiEN, only a merger can save some dignity for them
>>91727348I'm curious if Sakamata is unironically have schizophrenia
>>91730338I doubt any of them managed to surge as much as Nijisanji and Hololive during covid as most microcorpo started after covid..Live was killed by Sio and the friends that trusted her lmao.4 heavenly kings are nobodies now and were literal whos in the grand scheme of YT.
Erb was the discord sperg of her group that people find funny until she keeps going and its becomes annoying huh?
>>91730631>4 heavenly kings are nobodies now and were literal whos in the grand scheme of YT.I'll only agree with you because the later group was>the four heavenly kings AND OYABUNand Kizuna AI was fucking huge, even doing a US bound tour year before it was even viable for Hololive to pull it off
>Liveposting an erb watchalong instead of CC
>>91730614>Flayon getting mogged by IzuruHOLY FUCK, WHERE IS THE "TEMPUS JP" ANON AT?
>>91730741A watchalong of Promise related content. Promise>anyone else.
>>91730694Oh yea. Till they ruined it by skinwalking her corpse with another fleshie. Funny how that works out too.
>>91730741Im watching for Fauna and Mumei
>>91730741small dog syndrome
>>91730741Nerissa went down on Erb and then she tried to give her mouth to mouth. I was gonna move to CC after the Promise Musical but then they kept yuri baiting me and i stayed.......
>>91730741Kiara...
>>91730879We hate kiara
>>91730631>4 heavenly kings are nobodies now
God I can't wait to get a whiff of Ina's cunt again
>>91730623Idk can we really prove that Sakamata have a sister?
>>91729979>YT numbers
>>91727348>>91730623Who tf call her Sakamata?
>>91729285So male viewers hate to watch male streamers who more handsome than them?
>>91730922I didn't stutter
"Check out a lot of the girls and the guys"
>ERB SHILLING HOMOS WITH NERISSA ON SCREEN
>sub 6kCC really flopped completely huh
>>91731008Sakamata
>>91728025Bro you know shorts number are inflated as fuck when the fucking JP homo get thousands of view for showing off their plushies
>>91731028She's past 6k though
>>91730792>Till they ruined it by skinwalking her corpse with another fleshie. Funny how that works out too.That's true but that's 2021 at very earlier. There is no denial Kizuna was huge in 2020 and before
>>91731008Tons of people including herself you retarded tourist nigger
>>91731020If you repeat it one more time may be it will become true.
>"yeah sub to ALL of us, there is bound to be one of us for you"-NerissaUH OH, ERB is getting Nerissa to be HoloPro pilled...........
>>91729117Most central banks aim for around 2%, so that’s actually somewhat decent, if still a bit high. Problem is really the foreign debts and low currency reserves, especially due to lack of exports.
>>91731028Don't shitpost on Internet Explorer anon
>>91729285There's an audience for a guy crying and literally shitting himself on stream. There's an audience for everything. The fact the Homos haven't found theirs is purely a lack of talent and effort on their own parts. They aren't growing because they suck that's it.
>>91730623Just like Gura, Imagine the Umisea meetings with both Gura and Chloe there
>ERB likes homos but she wont collab with them>okay she collabed with them but she wont mention them on stream with other Holomem aroundWhat's next huh?
>>91731085Bro didn't watch the sleepover when Nerissa forced ERB to ignore the existence of the homos
Wtf erb...
AIEEEEEEE HOLOTOMOS?!?!?!?!?!>YOU WISH IT WAS YOU AND YOUR OSHI, DON*T YOU?!?!Truth be told I wouldn't object to marrying Mio to get her citizenship and a Schengen passport in this humble European country if she asked!
>>91731136what? I think your pagpag was tainted
>>91731028She operates like a twitch streamer, and i didn't really enjoy her debut as much as grun said they did. Yet the debut crash of CC was the highest, with most tourist dipping afterwards to a measly sub 10k ccv.
>>91731095That's 2% yearly I said 2.4% monthly so take that # times 12. The US for example which is coming down from relatively high inflation is 0.3% monthly.
>>91729569I first heard that one in /tg/.
>>91727098I am pretty sure Chloe have always laying low like that, not like her content output is super high in the first place, and when she does stream I only remember her ToTK streams that always show up on my front page
>>91731136>ERB likes homos but she wont collab with themWut? Are you hallucinating?
LIZ RAIDED CECE WHAT ABOUT DUBOIS?!
FUCK OFF RED BONG WHORR
>>91730922Who is this yellow for? Pmaru?
>>91731182Huh?
>>91731022>>91731023SHE FUCKING DID THAT ON PURPOSE
>>91730614>It can't get any more grim for NijiENIt certainly could, if they kept accelerating.
>>91731028all of EN flopped
>>91731182This makes no sense.
>>91731182Tf are you even talking about?
>>91731182You should watch CC before talking about CC
>>91731331Seethe
>>91731218>WHAT ABOUT DUBOIS?!AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OWARI DA
Timestamp of erb mentioning the homos?
>>91731028CC was the thread darling until she spoke, revealed her heritage, and a few streams later farted to over 10k people. I was there. It was very amusing.
Which Holo have mental illnesses?
>>91731346Funniest post itt
>gigabuff game>raided>only 8k
>>91731184Right, missed that part. Thanks.
>>91731361Didn't happen
>>91731346NOOOOOOOOOOO
>>91731405Wataoji couldn't forget the pits she saw that day
>>91731257
>>91731369Yes
>>91731433
>>91731174>>91731216He’s trying to do a you are here post
>>91731022She 100% did that on purpose to show her allegiance with the homocrowd because Nerissa keeps forcing her to not acknowledge them. Also notice how Nerissa was not in the mood to amuse BloodRaven shipping stuff today.MEANWHILE NERISSA>Nerissa on debut: I want to collab with all my senpais. They are all such cute girls>Nerissa bout Runescape: i think i'm the only vtuber playing Runescape. Are other vtubers playing it? *greyfags responding with Homos, Pippa and Indies* Rissa: Indies? I see. >Nerissa talking about HOLOGTA: i'm so happy i was able to to collab with all branches >Nerissa talking, post Ame's 1-on-1: my goal is to collab with all girls in Hololive. All branches, EN, ID & JP. Regloss is part of JP>Nerissa talking about collabing: yeah i need to 1-on-1 collab with ever body especially in EN. I have definently already collabed with everybody in EN, just not 1-on-1. >Nerissa in ERB collab: yeah there are so many cute girls in Hololive to collab with>Nerissa in ERB collab: *forces ERB to raid GG ovee the homos* >Nerissa talking about the Flowglow (membies): I'm currently the tallest member of Hololive English. I'm the tallest active member in all of Hololive. >Nerissa releases Espresso, Anya replies to Nerissa's release: Thank you Anya, love you. Blue fliphomo replies to Nerissa's release: *nothing & silence* >*No flip hate marketing on Nerissa*>Nerissa on her birthday playing guess who: *not EN, not ID, not Regloss(meant devis)* that means that there is only one branch left. >Nerissa on her playing guess who: *not EN, *not ID, *not JP & *not Devis. EXCUSE ME??? LIKE WHAT IS LEFT??? AM I YAGOO? >Nerissa in membies: I like collabing with nice girls so why would i say no, but i do miss my jailbirds. I love Hololive english. I love Hololive JP. I love Hololive ID... I love Hololive Devis. *continues her tangent* >Nerissa in the same membies as the previous entry: i dont know if you know but if have this thing on youtube (her channel) if you click the Hololive (header) you can see all the branches. JP, EN, ID & Devis.NERISSA IS FOR TOTAL HOMO DEATH
>Channel name and views in cursiveAm I insane or is this new?
>>91731379CC is a slow starter and slow burner. She doesn't have much funny moments and her humour is too sophisticated and soaked in internet culture for the average viewer. She also swears a lot.
>>91730397It's a very sweet story to have in hand, for sure. Being nice is a rare skill to have in this world, but it can pay so much in dividends if you use that niceness (with a healthy mix of pragmatic reasoning)
>>91731479>Nerissa was not in the mood to amuse BloodRaven shipping stuff today.YOU LITERALLY DIDNT FUCKING WATCH THE STREAM FAGGOT
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>43,922: Pekora (Hololive)>36,808: Miko (Hololive)>24,065: Fauna (Hololive)>20,130: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>20,022: Botan (Hololive)>18,749: Watame (Hololive)>17,837: Patra (Indie)>16,723: Koyori (Hololive)>16,017: AZKi (Hololive)>15,494: Kagami (Nijisanji)>14,861: Mio (Hololive)>14,731: Maimoto (Nijisanji)>14,384: Bijou (Hololive)>13,560: Calliope (Hololive)>13,458: Lize (Nijisanji)>13,203: Chloe (Hololive)>12,611: Furen (Nijisanji)>11,523: Koyori (Hololive)>10,475: Korone (Hololive)>10,439: Yashiro (Nijisanji)PekoMiko day with Pekora getting gold with baseball, Miko silver with WWE and Fauna, bronze
>>91731495That's not cursive. So yes, you're insane.
>>91730586Notice how they said/FUWAMOCOinstead of the channel name there
>>91731479Nerissa was literally moving her model to try and get ERB to do CPR on her retard.
>>91731365>wasShe still is a thread darling?
>>91731361https://www.youtube.com/live/qXDTjLL4-H0?t=5316>the girls and the guys
>>91731495Those are italics, dumbfuck.
Kuukiyomi is so dogshit
>>91731365>CC was the thread darling until she spokeHow can you be the thread darling if you stop being one on debut?
>>91731527>Fauna beat Tin man
>>91731513>>91731578You didnt watch. Aside from the final 10 minutes, Nerissa kept backing off whenever ERB was trying to push BloodRaven shit
>>91731588>This bitch
>>91731527>Fauna bronzeholy slow day
>>91731654meanwhile, in japan
Hot take:>Bashar Al-Assad = HolostarsI have to drive home from work but someone workshop this take
https://youtu.be/mPZFvW-QPC8
>>91731668Runt
>>91731654Nerissa treats Hololive productions as JP,EN,ID, DEVIS, that was just a really shitty move by ERB that I hope never happens again
>>91731588Ok yeah this is definitely her purposely testing boundaries and using nerissa as a guinea pig
>>91731527DECEMBER 2024 GOLD>1) 117,359: Fauna (Hololive) Graduation Announcement [30]>2) 77,038: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [32]>3) 70,713: Mito (Nijisanji) Major Announcement [27]>4) 63,421: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [23]>5) 58,854: Korone (Hololive) MikKorone Important Announcement [27]>6) 54,332: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [20]>7) 83,539: Marine (Hololive) Sololive Day 1 [24]>8) 100,370: Shion (Hololive) 3D Birthday LIVE [24]>9) 59,309: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [23]>10) 69,576: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [22]>11) 58,039: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [19]>12) 73,665: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [19]>13) 131,397: Shiba (Nijisanji) 3D reveal [16]>14) 106,640: Hololive (Hololive) 3D LIVE Gamers [31]>15) 50,673: Hololive English (Hololive) Promise musical [22]>16) 44,102: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro [25]>17) 43,922: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro [20]> PER COMPANY8x: Hololive9x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER7x: Kuzuha2x: Marine1x: Fauna, Mito, Korone, Shion, Shiba, Hololive, Hololive English, Pekoratick tock
>>91731346Don't worry, she is trying a different tactic. She knows if she constantly raided the homos, everyone will fuck off in seconds. She is waiting for all her audience to think she will never raid the homos again, so she can raid the homos again and have a good retention of asleep cucksarians the next time.
>>91731654Nerissa hasnt done anything wrong. She did not mention homos, she has never said a name. She didnt even say "guys". She only said Hololive Productions which Hololive still is. Nerissa treats Holopro as JP, ID, EN & Devis
>>91731588It was a mistake to hire a English girl.
>>91731668Yeah I'd eat her ass
>>91731650You already outed yourself retard, also literally the 1st 10 mins https://youtu.be/qXDTjLL4-H0?t=328
>>91731527DECEMBER 2024 SILVER>1) 79,353: Towa (Hololive) 2nd YuruHolo GodField Tournament>2) 48,620: Suisei (Hololive) ShiraKen League + Announcement>3) 58,773: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3>4) 57,069: Miko (Hololive) Miko's room, Guest: FLOWGLOW>5) 54,396: Marine (Hololive) Gyakutotsu before sololive>6) 39,873: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro>7) 60,908: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCR GTA 3>8) 69,306: Marine (Hololive) Sololive DAY2 free part>9) 49,664: Mio (Hololive) 6th anniversary totsumachi>10) 45,158: Subaru (Hololive) MikoSuba Human Fall Flat>11) 38,616: Fubuki (Hololive) Off-Collab w/ FuwaMoco, Subaru, Miko>12) 44,583: Miko (Hololive) Kanji de GO!>13) 88,384: Ayame (Hololive) 3D Birthday Live>14) 42,905: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro>15) 42,849: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro>16) 42,289: Fubuki (Hololive) Unrailed 2>17) 36,808: Miko (Hololive) WWE2K22> PER COMPANY15x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER3x: Marine, Miko2x: Kuzuha, Pekora, Fubuki1x: Towa, Suisei, Mio, Subaru, Ayame1 more to lock in december
>>91731588Jesus christ nerissa why didn't you just stick with shiori?
>>91731588So she used Promise to shill homos?
Does Nerissa have a saviorfag mentality with ERB or is she just retarded
>>91731881The former
>>91731588raiding no good anymore, time to slowly force da bois onto Holos. Rissa first.
>>91731479The irony of you co-opting her words for the exact opposite of her intention for them is the funniest fucking thing.
>>91724574Useful data also>4640 :: 2024-02-01 to 2024-02-29 (17 streams)Really I can't think of a bigger fall from grace in western vtubing. Maybe Nyanners.
>>91731881The later
>>91731881Nerissa doesn't get that good of #s either so I'm not sure how she could save her.
>>91731881She wants sex
>>91731627Some retard was constantly shilling her, constantly using her as the OP until debut happened, then less frequent till it stopped completely
>>91732018>please hate CCNo. Try some other angle
>>91731588no matter how many times she'll repeat it hololive fanbase will not watch them... it will NEVER happened. It was never a thing in the first place. And cover fucking tried. It does not work
>>91731527DECEMBER 2024 BRONZE>1) 48,874: Lui (Hololive) 2nd YuruHolo GodField Tournament>2) 42,954: Miko (Hololive) Talk stream>3) 58,284: Rena (Nijisanji) SMC Christmas 2024>4) 41,780: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #03>5) 46,918: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3>6) 25,967: Wen (Nijisanji) collab>7) 54,256: Miko (Hololive) WWE2K22>8) 65,420: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3>9) 45,152: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Quest III>10) 37,515: Suisei (Hololive) Live Tour free part>11) 37,854: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro>12) 32,290: Marine (Hololive) sololive outfit reveal>13) 54,633: Pekora (Hololive) The Game Awards restream>14) 35,370: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft>15) 34,155: Noel (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #7>16) 29,013: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji) Love advice w/Toya>17) 24,065: Fauna (Hololive) MINECRAFT> PER COMPANY12x: Hololive5x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER3x: Pekora, Miko2x: Kuzuha, Marine1x: Lui, Rena, Wen, Suisei, Noel, Hoshikawa, Fauna
No amount of leeching will ever make your homos popular, sis.
>>91731527>no more GTA>Niji is dead
>>91732072erb not /here/ though
>still no Marvels Rivals collabwtf is EN doing
Just a reminder that we fucking hate Updatilia and Santa Claus here
>>91732040Stop coping. Grun went from making multiple threads and multiple overlapping bread a day to the sorry state it is now.We even joked about making 1000 winds.
>>91732195Is anyone actually into capeshit in EN? And unless Mumei makes a collab no one is going to fps
>>91732185Nerissa is though. And she'll know
>>91732209Why are you talking in third person(not santa)?
Fauna
>>91732297Love her
This is the 2nd time within a week that someone has tried to shill homos in the presence of Nerissa. Last week it was Moona, now ERB. You really can't trust any homocollab to keep their shit to themselves anymore
>>91732240So what stopped completely again?
>>91732334they get bonus for doing it
>>91732195vtubers are getting paid to play it
>>91732297
Would you fuck Nerissa if she said that you had to fuck Shiori, too? Or would that be too much of a turnoff
>>91732334It is that both were at that moment on their own channel. Rissa can't police Moona who is collabing with her through her own stream. Rissa can't police ERB on her own channel although she should
>>91732441I don't want to fuck either of them
>>91732195mumei and ame are the only ones that play that type of shit and obviously ame isn't here anymore so it's up to mumei to organize something on her own
>>91732441I would fuck Shiori and then Refuse nerissa so she gets mind broken.
>>91732441I would just fuck shiori
>>91732441That's a bonus
>>91732195>>91732571Should EN5 have a dedicated fps girl?
>>91732441Wheres the downside?
Sakuna talked about why she left on her mengen
Shion...
>>91732674leech
>>91732674qrd?? Any juicy corpo deets or is it all purely personal stuff
>>91732674Why can't she just move on?
>>91732441I want both of them to tease me with a sounding rod.
>>91732068She tried to chuckle her way out of it, but Rissa was smart enough to segue real fast, give her what she wanted by saying "Hololive Production" in a professional sounding voice which probably got the message across.
