Cover is being dragged by doctors on social media for promoting vaping. Koyori and Laplus should have known better, this could actually get kids addicted.
>>91724747but they are less harmful than cigarettes. Significantly so. Less harmful =/= harmless.
Wait, vapes with no nicotine? What's even the point?
>>91724841weed of course
>>91724841taste and smells good
Koyori deserves a better sponsor than this...
>>91724876In Japan???
>>91724876This is Japan, they think weed is fentanyl
>>91724841I think in the US some doctors recommend it because it simulates smoking but with less drawbacks.
Nijisanji promotes alcohol + energy drink, Hololive goes... "hold my beer"
>>91724747>are often perceived as posing less of a health risk than traditional cigarettes >but in reality, various potential health hazards have been pointed outNotice how the latter statement doesn't negate the former at all
>>91724915I wonder who pranked Japan into their hatred of weed, probably a Japanese Hearst that feared hemp i'm guessing
>>91725028Japan was occupied during the height of the Cold War when Americans were the biggest prudes imaginable.
>>91724994Pretty much, if you're already a smoker it's objectively better than actually smoking. If you're not a smoker, there's no reason to bother with it, especially if its a vape with nicotine in it.Yes I saw that Kurzgesagt video too.
>>91725086Japan had been growing hemp for hundreds of years, many Shinto shrines had fields of it for making paper and other ceremonial stuff. Their hatred of weed comes from two unfortunate events both stemming from Western powers.The British and their Opium Wars against China but a hatred of all drugs into the entire sinosphere.Then the US reubuilding of Japan after WW2 where we went full puritan and further demonized drugs. Japans famous porn censorship also comes from this era.And because Japanese are too stuck in their ways and autistic both uncensored porn and weed will likely remain illegal for the forseeable future.
why the fuck do we care? >alcohol kill peoplenormalized >sugar kill people normalized>vaping kill zoomergreat
>>91725028The opium wars and watching China become a shithole because of their consume of narcotics.
>>91725343The only zoomers it killed were retards who tried to modify their nicotine vapes to vape cannabis extracts only to turn them into IEDs. That was ground zero for the Murican anti-vaping hysteria.
>>91724841The point is buying them from another country and bringing them back. You can bring salt nicotine liquid into japan from outside. It's entirely legal. You just can't purchase nicotine liquid in japan.
>>91724747I wonder if japanese do know most of these kind of things can be self-recharged with anything you wish, including more dangerous drugs.
>>91724747We're one step away from becoming the Flintstoneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c
Btw japanese people smoke hella cigarettes. Vaping becoming more popular might be a good thing for the health of the populace
>>91725086Pretty sure it's just because of opium, all of Asia is like this. We can blame America for mosaics though.
The Japanese know that stimulants are the only drugs worth doing.
>>91724747Wait what? They are allowing a smoking sponsorship?
>>91724747wouldn't if be funny if they start chocking mid concert?
>>91725927This isn't the first time either, Raden had a sponsorship for the same company a few months back.
>>91725927Haven't they done alcohol and (horse race) gambling sponsorships?
>>91726028It kind of makes sense for Raden because she was touted as the smoking vtuber anyways. Her audience is also just a lot more mature. Laplus is like a childrens channel in comparison.
It's pretty wild how hard the cig industry has successfully lobbied against vaping, there is literally nothing on this planet worse to ingest than a cigarette long term, and yet they try and push this 'oh it's just as bad a vaping' shit
>>91726198>He thinks the cigarette industry is against vaping.Bud, they own major stakes in vape companies.
>>91724747This was such a strange sponsor. Seems rather off-base for both of them, honestly. I know Raden did one for the same company, but it really doesn't fit the image of either of these two.
>>91726198cigarettes companies are the ones behind vaping because there is no better pipeline to smoking cigarettes than vaping. Also is the perfect bait to lure back ex-smokers
>>91725525how in the name of fuck do you turn something meant to make water vapor into an explosive? what the hell
>>91724747That's a doctor vtuber you fucking retard
>>91726393I don't think I know a single person that's gone through that pipeline, It's literally always the other way around. Vaping is the single most effective way to get off cigarettes
>PLAY THIS SHITTY CHINESE GATCHA GAME>EAT THIS FAST FOOD>DRINK THIS ENERGY DRINK>USE THIS VAPEwe are currently here>PLAY THIS ONLINE CASINO>BUY THIS SHITCOIN>VOTE FOR THIS GUY
>>91726393Even cigarette companies see the writing on the wall for cigarettes. They're trying to transition into something that is not enough of a public nuisance that lawmakers get involved.
>>91724747Cover board room meeting said sponsors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ_nQGuUaJo
>Don't appear at the Vtuber Awards because of Fansly sponsor (or Fillian, whatever)>Promoting Vape is fine, though
>>91726549You forgot go back to /pol/.
>>91726650>DO show up at the game awardssponsored by tencent and Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum
>>91726549when do we reach>fuck this onahole
>>91726459Vape is a two way. If you're a cig addict, it pulls you back down. If you're not even smoking, the pull is towards getting addicted. This is why the industry is marketing vapes as a general product for everyone and not just a rehab for addicts.
>>91724747Koyori and La+ promoting vapes, how the fuck did Cover allow this?
>>91726329that's hedging their bets. they'd still rather have people smoking ciggs
>>91724841>Wait, vapes with no nicotine?They can easily add nicotine but even without it the vape chemicals have the potential to damage your lungs. Hololive shills alcohol and gambling so they have never been suitable for children. Still the vape stuff is heavily marketed towards children so Cover is getting too greedy.
>>91727149you mean the company with a bunch of alcohol collabs?
>>91724747CONSOOOOM
>>91727261That Gura Taco Bell stream was cringe. Too kayfabe when they should have just embraced irony.
>>91724747>one tweet by a vtuber doctorDOCTORS>Cover being draggedliterally just a tweet of him ranting about vapes and potential kids watching (which all fearmongers and sheeps do) and if you don't like the risk associated with the device, don't buy it just because it was a PR by Holos. This is similar for every other sponsorship done by Hololive.>GET KIDS ADDICTEDThere is zero nicotine or addictive additives in this vape.
>>91724897>>91724915Bro there are literal dispensaries lining the streets in Tokyo. There's a big market for it there. Yes, it's illegal. No, that doesn't stop them.
>>91727369>There is zero nicotine or addictive additives in this vape.There is also zero nicotine or addictive additives in gambling yet people get addicted to it all the same.
>>91727261>Cancer>Alcoholism>Obesity>Diabetes>Pollution>Chinese spywareLate stage corpo drone
their coughing during the stream was pretty funny
>>91725623>You just can't purchase nicotine liquid in japan.I was wondering about that, but I guess the Japanese industry wouldn't like it when people switch to buying liquids.
>>91727531Gambling has research proven linked to dopamine levels. Vaping does not sadly. So your arguement falls short. Good luck. Try harder next time.
>>91727261I must eat junk food and chug sugary shit and smoke vapes and drown it with a bottle of whisky and buy expensive trash I don't need because the anime girls said I should, I see the light now
>>91727471If you're talking stores with neon weed leaves, those are CDB "dispensaries". And a lot of those have closed down since greater restrictions on the purity of CBD oil were enacted a few months ago.A year or two ago a derivative of THC (DTHC, I think?) was technically legal and sold for a while, but the loophole was closed.Japan believes that Reefer Madness was a documentary.
just inhale the hololive liquid and get excited for the next concert
>>91726549Japan is all about shitcoins right now, I was there month ago and the amount of shitcoin ads on youtube was something to behold.
i'm just glad indies NEVER take sponsorshi- ACK
>>91725028idk why people think weed is harmless, it's actually pretty awful for you, as bad as other depressants like alcohol but if you smoke it you also get to enjoy lung cancer.
>>91724915Fentanyl can actually be laced into weed.
>>91724747Uh-huh. But I'm sure if this was Nijisanji promoting it then it would be fine, right sister?Tired of your moral outrage faggotry on X.
>>91727673>Vaping does not sadly>Gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) is a neurotransmitter, a chemical messenger in your brain. It slows down your brain by blocking specific signals in your central nervous system (your brain and spinal cord). GABA is known for producing a calming effect.Sure it's not a dopamine enhancer, but it stills sounds like something that can be addictive to me...
>>91724747Stinky Orca
>>91726442It contains batteries
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>>91729018Ok, I'm in. I want the merch.
>>91728928yeah where can I vape Chloesmell
>>91729018Oh I just remembered I need to subscribe to my new "health food" goyfeed delivery service so I can enjoy an alternatively sourced extra small hamburg steak, 2 pieces of broccoli and gravy substitute
Vaping is bad, you’d be surprise with how easily kids get addicted because it tastes good and then slowly try the low nicotine flavours to full on nicotine ones. It’s also addicting, don’t know why people in this thread is downplaying the risks of vaping.
>>91729416If Korone likes it, so do I.
>>91727261the only based one here is korone with honda racing corporation (HRC)
>>91729467https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-itS1e3TlP0Y-Yeah, she loves it
I'm usually okay with shilling stuff, but Coca Cola sponsoring the Mikkorone event was already close to jumping the shark, and now the vaping shit is just outright disgusting. I know Raden did something similar a few months ago, but at least she had the excuse that she was trying to quit smoking, and it helped her. Koyo and Lapu are just selling it as some kind of dumb relaxation toy, and tying it to merch makes it even more scummy because you know plenty of their fans will get into vaping just to get an autographI hope this is just a one off thing and they don’t keep promoting this shit
>>91724747Does Cover have no morals? I thought Twitch and Youtube both ban smoking advertising. Why would they accept a sponsor for this shit knowing their underage audience is susceptible to it?It's pretty disgusting ngl. Real Nijisanji behavior.
>>91725525Why would someone stick their vape pen in their vagina Jesus
Vaping isn't a brand risk I guess. What did Fauna want to do that was worse than this?
>>91729786If anything she probably quit over this.Fauna is very passionate about her beliefs and probably wouldn't tolerate her employer having a vape sponsor. I'm genuinely surprised more Holos didn't shit on it.
>>91726393I don't believe that, simply because I spent years as a chainsmoker before switching to vapes.Ironically it's been a big help on getting me to edge off the habit, and I haven't smoked a single cig in years.
>>91724796Surely the chemicals making your sugar juice taste like mango bubblegum are tested meticulously by the experts at the factory in malaysia
>>91724747
The only two things I put in my lungs are oxygen and women's farts.
>>91730247You could say the same thing about candy or soda. Granted, I still think vaping is bad because cigarettes need to be phased out of existence, not replaced with something similar, but it's still far better than lung cancer.
>>91730385Air is only a fraction of oxygen your lungs exist to filter the other shit out you are literally doing it wrong
>>91730649Vaping still gives you lung cancer. It's not the nicotine that causes lung cancer it's the blowing hot steam into your lungs every day for years. Nicotine itself is not cancerous at all. In fact, smoking weed also has the same risks of lung cancer as tobacco or vaping, because again it's the act of smoking that causes it.Zoomers are so fucking dumb, our generation(Millennials) had the lowest smoking rates in history and then you retards had to fuck it up and revive the tobacco industry with your cringe bubblegum candy sticks.
>>91729589There's nothing wrong with Coca Cola. You can't blame them for the fat fucks that substitute water with soda.
>>91731151Steam isn't a carcinogen you moron.
>>91731280Excessive sugar content warps palettes into expecting stronger amounts of sugar
>>91731280I like Coca Cola, I just find it incredibly silly and unnecessary
>>91731151>It's not the nicotine that causes lung cancer it's the blowing hot steam into your lungs every day for yearsEVERY HOT SHOWERS IS NOW A LUNG CANCER RISK ACCORDING TO THIS MAD LAD ON 4CH
>>91731151>one grade vs four grades put togetherWhat a fucking weaselly bullshit graph.
>>91731800It's true tho, I get showers and got cancer
>>91731151It's true. Everybody in the world who lives in a hot, humid area got cancer.
>>91731530>>91731800>eating smoked meats causes cancer>inhaling the smoke from burning wood and plastics causes cancer>getting blasted by steam from exhaust vents in factories causes cancer>smoking tobacco, marijuana, crack, and vaping cause cancer through literally cooking your lungs from the insidesteam and smoke very much do cause cancer and it's been heavily documented for decades through many different fieldsyou can nitpick over whether it "doesn't count" if it's just water vapor like taking a shower, but we both know e-cigs are not just water vapor. the chemicals from the flavorings and tobacco liquid in the vape cook into your skin and cause tumors to develop. this is like very basic biology dude.
>>91731615Coca Cola exists in Japan as well and they aren't all fat.
>>91729962>>91729018>>91724747>This Nothingburger is the reason why fauna says that Hololive managers are badThen you guys wonder why /tv/ turned against her.
>>91732146/tv/? Fauna's a television star?
>>91732146>/tv/retard
>>91731973HEY HEY HEYSMOKE MEAT EVERY DAY
>>91728296>it's actually pretty awful for youNot really, it's normally awful for people who already have anxiety and certain modes of depression.It's amazing for normal people who can do it in moderation and for sick people/people with certain mental conditions.There is no substance in this world that is just blanket good or bad>you smoke it you also get to enjoy lung cancerOnly if you're a long term daily smoker Even then the research isn't conclusive as the studies aren't rigorous enough with their control groups
>>91731800I get what you're saying an anons a fucking retard for not clarifying, but it's pretty clear that water vapor versus something that's not literally just water vapor would make a massive difference in terms of effects on your lungs. Like this shit is flavored, you think that there's nothing in there that'd be bad to stick around in your lungs?
>>91732283>>91732328ok, it doesn't matter. I'm right anyway, /vt/ is justified in hating fauna if this Nothingburger is the reason why she resigned.
>>91732529yeah, most vapes are made in factories in China and Malaysia and such.you trust them to make plastics that won't melt in your lungs?vapeheads are retarded.
Ahem. Dear retards itt arguing about steam.The CDC has identified vitamin E acetate, an additive in some THC-containing e-cigarettes, is strongly linked to the lung injury outbreak. Vitamin E is usually not harmful when ingested or applied to the skin; however, the oil could cause respiratory issues when inhaled.Since no one here can prove that the flavouring being sold does have it. It is safe to assume this is a nothing burger.
Wtf is hololive doing, I thought those were just markers
>>91732689>/vt/ is justified in hating fauna if [schizo fanfiction]
Beep boop. I am a bot.
>>91733022I think you made a mistake when quoting the post
Hololive is already flying quite close to the sun with all the girls promoting alcohol and gambling, but anyone who doesn't see the obvious brand risk with that sort of sponsorships is completely delusional.I honestly have no idea what they were thinking.
Beep beep boop. Fauna fauna fauna bop.
>>91733289Raden doing it already made me raise an eyebrow, but I genuinely don’t understand how they thought it was a good idea to involve Koyori and Laplus in this shit
Beep boop. Bop bop. Raden Raden Raden. Guru guru guru~
>>91731131I.. think you get it but worded completely wrong. oxygen is only a fraction of air. your lungs "filter" oxygen out of the air. (you really wouldn't refer to the chemical exchange here as filtering)
>>91724747People still vape? Didn't they find out it gives you cancer or something?
>>91724747You should have posted the follow up:>Among electronic inhalation devices, those that use tobacco leaves are called "heated tobacco" and those that do not are called "electronic cigarettes." Electronic cigarettes are not considered tobacco under the law, but are treated as "pharmaceuticals and medical devices.">Even though e-cigarettes do not contain nicotine or tar, there are concerns about the following health risks:>Acute eosinophilic pneumonia (AEP): Cases have been reported in patients who have started using e-cigarettes and can be severe.>Emphysema/COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease): E-cigarette aerosol inhalation may increase the expression of inflammatory cytokines and proteolytic enzymes in the lungs, potentially increasing the risk of lung tissue destruction and developing COPD.-> Unknown health hazards due to new additives: There is a risk that new additives not found in conventional cigarettes may cause unexpected health hazards.>Many e-cigarette products claim that they are safe because the ingredients they use are approved as food additives. However, it is important to note that while they may be safe when ingested as food, they may pose a health hazard if inhaled as vapor.>Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to say that electronic cigarettes are dangerous, nor do I want to blame Rapkoyo for doing something bad. In terms of health hazards, regular cigarettes and alcohol are clearly more harmful.>However, since e-cigarettes can be legally purchased and used by minors, I think they should be advertised with caution.>I'm not saying that everyone will do this, but some listeners may start using e-cigarettes simply because their idol is promoting them, without understanding the health risks and the risks of smoking. I don't think that's a good way to protect the health of listeners.>In that sense, as a medical professional, I am opposed to Cover's use of Rapkoyo, who likely has many young listeners, to promote e-cigarettes.>https://x.com/YamabukiOrca/status/1868609777661792505It's a reasonable take
>>91726549i don't watch JPslop so not my problem
>>91733523Raden made sense because of the smoking thing, and it's a healthier alternative to just smoking like she used to.But if the Raden sponsor was happening right now, when her maitake meme shit is currently doing numbers with literal school children, that shit wouldn't fly.
Beep boop. Ring ring~
>>91731973>eating smoked meats causes cancerOnly in america and a few other countries because of certain chemicals used. Irish and British meat has been proven not to because of bans on certain chemicalspure water vapor or steam doesnt cause cancer, chemicals do, not sure why you're falling over both ways with that point
I'm actually surprised they're willing to let their idol brand be associated with vaping
Today, I will remind them.
why are there so many disgusting junkies on this board holy fuck
>>91729018>darkness>Hiroi
>>91733749sounds reasonable enough. But that doesn't sound nice for a bait thread like OP wanted.
>>91724747Are we finally admitting that children are Hololive's audience?
>>91734244It's bleak.
>>91734244zoomers are a failed generation
>>91734095money talks
>>91734180oh no no no sisters don't look
>>91733903Because he is a "think-of-the-children" pearlclutcher who already outright stated that tobacco, cannabis and vaping are all equally carcinogenic when that is patently untrue.
>>91734342Only Ruffians and Nousagi
>>91734398im gen z and i agree. shit is grim.
>>91734244It's kind of sad. I figured the vices of /vt/ would be masturbation and waifus.
>>91734436Meant for >>91734020
>>91724747Based Doctors>>91724841>>91725343>>91730247People around them didn't sign up for 2nd hand smoking. So yes, it does bother other people. It's being inconsiderate towards other people and goes against Japanese omoiyari culture.This is no different from involving dating site ads with minors in terms of western standards.
>>91724747People are bullying him hard in the replies kek.
>>91734937Holo fans are quite possibly the worst case of "cult for a brand" since Applefags got btfo. They'll defend literally anything even if it's smoking chinese paint chips for their oshi.
>>91734937Kek besides fearmongering and hiding behind kids. What else can this clown do?
>>91734937That just makes holofans look even worse. Good thing, it's just twitter nonsense and won't be picked up by big medias. That would be an easy dunk on the company.
>>91735104>>91735184Seethe nigger we are taking over.
>>91734937>The reason why OP hid the tweet link and only shitpost without providing any evidence so far.
>>91727261Didn't the art teacher quit smoking
>>91735226>weCringe motherfucker.
>>91735306NIJISEETHE
>>91735226>weyou're a consoomer. your oshi doesn't know you exist. your only impact on her life is paying for her boyfriend's condoms. you aren't part of hololive. you aren't part of the in-group. you're the pathetic loser they manipulate to make their millions.
>>91734907>People around them didn't sign up for 2nd hand smoking1) There is no smoking happening2) Who says they are vaping around others?
>>91735336lol nijifag are feasting right nowthey got targeted for the red bull stuff, but now holo is promoting fucking vaping
>mask off already
>>91735462>>91735513>>91735336
>>91724747Black company
>>91734937The replies? Not really?>I am concerned about future effects because there is no evidence of what kind of effect occurs on the upper respiratory tract by inhaling something that has been heated to a high sound and turned into steam over a long period of time.>It's hard to understand the health hazards of long-term use because it doesn't appear for a long time like paper cigarettes.>holoX's lack of scrutiny of Mane-san •́ω•̀)?>It's not the kind of product that you advertise on a channel that even small children watch.>I'm worried that there are listeners who mistake it for a health device or something in the lip column. Is this okay?>Sure, e-cigarettes are often considered less risky than traditional cigarettes, but they're not completely harmless. It should be recognized that it may contain nicotine and other harmful substances, and that long-term effects require sufficient research.Most of the quotes I've read are also in that veinAlso, this one has a good point>https://x.com/jyoujima_rori/status/1868837001799385465>In the case of Raden before, when the question of "Is it okay for minors to purchase and use this product?" was raised, Stons officially issued a statement saying, "It shouldn't have any adverse effects on health, but this product is designed to be used by 'working adults'. It's a product for 'working adults'!">Well, I wonder if it's a good idea to actively promote something like that on a channel that minors watch.
>>91735488>There is no smoking happeningliterally >>91734500
>>91734937idk bro I looked at the replies to this tweet and some of the quote tweets and that's not the impression I got
>>91735579>>91735586A dozen more calling him a retard for believing Holo is followed by kids.
>>91735673Koyo has a big ojisan audience, but La+ has 100% a big underage audience.
>>91735858Retard.
>>91735673Again, most of the posts aren't like that, so this statement>People are bullying him hard in the replies kek.it's greatly exaggerated
>>91735673Didn't Raden get into some "words most used by kindergarten age kids" chart with her mushroom shorts? I think I remember reading something like that a few weeks ago.
>>91735582Well I mean, it isn't, it's propylene glycol aka fake smokeHow healthy that shit is to inhale all the time is still questionable though
>>91735673>troublesome doctorlmaoThat guy sounds like an intellectual.
>>91735907I glanced through it quickly and a bunch of them were bullying him. To the point where vtuber antis started quote retweeting to complain about Holo fans fact-checking.
>>91735976Yes, it was literally this week.
>>91735579>Well, I wonder if it's a good idea to actively promote something like that on a channel that minors watchIf minors are watching fucking Hololive that is on the parents, not Cover.
>>91736002I mean, I'm sure that there are a few retards here and there, but most of the posts are still pretty reasonable
>>91735226Was she on a kids TV show or something?Otherwise I don't get the seethe over her singing a simple song.
>>91736072Cover would sell their soul for their charact... I mean vtubers, to be popular with children.I think avoiding obviously controversial sponsorships would be a small price to pay.
>>91735673>believing Holo is followed by kids.https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/jlcm22/my_daughter_decided_she_wanted_to_be_gawr_gura/
>just non-stop looping arguments and derailing it out from the main topicClassic
>>91735104>Holo fans are quite possibly the worst case of "cult for a brand" you weren't here for the selen drama i see
>>91735462NTA but and?
>>91736002They're not complaining about Holo fans fact-checking. They're complaining about Holo-fans being rabid bootlickers pulling this shit >>91734500 because they can't accept criticism of their oshi corp.
>>91736397Holodrones and Nijikeks are the same thing They're the India and Pakistan of vtubing
>>91736306
Most of the quotes on the original PR tweet are calling them out, so I hope Cover takes that as a sign and stays away from this crap from now on
>>91736488I agree they're stupid for defending Cover shilling vapeshit but we should be glad they're like this cuz it'll be funny when they die of lung cancer cuz le based Yagoo said smoking is cool
>>91736488Uh oh melty!Go back to QA tranny.
>>91736552Okay ken-sama.
>>91736610You proved anons point that holofags can't take criticism.
>>91736552donta smoka
>>91736650>waa waaCry more
>>91724747Why is there always so much moralfagging and hand wringing when it comes to vaping? Japs will drink their livers pickled and no one bats an eye, but the second you inhale some fruity air suddenly it's "OMG MUH POTENTIAL NEGATIVE HEALTH EFFECTS!1!"
>>91736552And then you have retards like this one, but it makes me wonder if Suisei is ok with Cover doing stuff like this
>>91736552they should do that one bed sponsorship Ririka has, at least that would be somewhat beneficial
>>91736689Again you keep proving the point that holofags can't take criticism.
>>91736488god it must be sea time cause you are unironically to retarded to read a few lines of text on an imagethe fucker you quoted is against vape you brain dead ape now go find a banana in the hopes the potassium will make what few brain cells you have work
>>91736756People are retarded, the doctors literally using the same argument against vaping that people use against many other medical treatments that are considered evil to question.
>>91724747Does Koyori really vape?
>>91736798Again you keep proving the point that QA niggers can only cry nonstop as vtubers curb stomp your flesh whores.
>>91736756Because Big Tobacco sees it as a threat to their existence, at least the companies that are too retarded to ditch tobacco for the safer alternative are.
>>91736756I think people just really hate douchebag vapefags who blow smoke in their faceSame as people who just really hate annoying stoners
>>91736771Why the fuck would Suisei care? She associates herself with much worse.
>>91736756Anon there's a good reason countries not run by corpo loving bugmen made it illegal to promote smoking products
>>91730649people lived longer when cigarettes were used more widely. how strange
>>91736771kekAnyway, at the end of the day this is a nothingburger, but I still don't like it
>>91736848You're one of the children that this shit shouldn't be marketed towards
>>91736756Drinking is bad too, but you don't need to teach that lesson. They'll literally get ill from it. Yagoo already had to do that whole dieting thing.
>>91736991Didn't Lamy stop drinking too because it was killing her?
>>91731530you can get throat cancer from tea and coffee. it's the burning of the outer lining over and over and over that causes the increased risk of getting it
>>91736817Yeah, people are retarded for listening to health professionals.Unlike you, of course. You sound like a real genius.
>>91737072>put the mask chud!
>>91736819She literally talked about how much she likes doing it
>>91734907>2nd hand smoking bad>car exhausts gooddo i have that right?
>>91737163Thanks. That's disgusting.
>>91737190Yeah, I'm a little disappointed
>>91737072>we don't know the long-term effects of this so don't do it>we don't need to know the long-term effects of this so just fucking do itYes, such impressive professional logic. No conflicts of interest can ever exist for professionals. Except all the professionals that disagree with my professionals, they are obviously compromised because that makes sense somehow.
>>91737072Health professionals say vaping and smoking give you lung cancer but le based wholesome Yagoo said smoking is good. Ik who I trust!
>>91724747How can a kid get addicted to vaping? If you can buy vaping goods for yourself enough to support an addiction, you're not a kid.
>>91737256Do you think 5G gives people covid?
>>91724747how much did they get paid for this you think, like $50K?
>>91737072>>91737271>people are retarded for listening to health professionalsIdiotic retort because in your SEA country, you probably don't know the statement "health professional says" is meaningless as long as you don't bring papers or studies.
>>91735226>>91736278She was on Fuji TV in full primetime TV at 18:30https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv5ErqgUl7o
>>91737318How do you think people get into smoking? It just happens one day? They just want to get one themselves? Obviously not.
Look man, if Pekora says getting a supersize big mac and fries with a side of nuggies and strawberry flavored partially gelatinated non-dairy gum-based beverage from Mickey D's is good for me, then I'm consooming itSimple as
>>91737318They're not that expensive. My nephew is 12 years old and his parents caught him with a vape stick
>>91737395Post medical certificate
>>91737256Feel free to take ingest and smoke any retarded shit you want, I personally don't care. If you act like a guinea pig you may actually contribute to society and it would be especially funny if it ends up killing you.Just don't expect doctors to agree with your stupidity.
>>91737514Post your hand Rajesh.
>>91737067https://www.mskcc.org/news/burning-issue-truth-about-hot-drinks-and-esophageal-cancer-riskDipshit
>>91727007If we had Hololive onaholes maybe I'd change my mind about this
>>91737397Oops, that was the one from last year. This is the one from last week, using recorded footage from her 3D Live concert. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D359i3FLEWs
>>91724796I can't wait for the fucking plot twist that vapes are actually worse than cigarettes, or at least tobacco. .
>>91735673
>>91737650>Not mentioning drinking scalding hot drinks of over certain temperatures >you can get throat cancer from tea and coffeeRetard award
>>91724841Honestly it's a gateway to getting people hooked. I remember years ago my cousin was puffing on the no-nic vapes and ordering them. One time they sent a "free" 3mg bottle and before you know it they get hooked.
>>91735226>I turned it off, but my dad turned it on again while we were eating which really depressed meBased dad, fuck that japanese karen.
>>91737722With all the bounce on her tits it's no wonder normal viewers got peeved
>>91736552they do alocohol sponsorships, no reason they should stay away from vape ones, just dont use laplus or any kid characters to advertise it. Nene or choco could advertise it just fine.
>>91738239Don't bring my Choco into this. She can do alcohol sponsorships because she drinks.
>>91737819Well I mean nicotine is extremely addictive, it wouldn't take very much to get hooked on it
>>91738327drinks my cum, sure.
>>91737650why don't you link a study instead of popsci journalism slop?
>>91737163Man, I was so dissapointed when she did this but I guess it makes sense of she vapes too.
>>91737163did la+ get her into that or did she always do itfucking piece of shit
>It's ok if my oshi shill cancer I'm an adultThe answers so far itt
>>91738620Blame Raden
>>91738620Oh wagahai 200% does that shitShe’s an unironic jirai kei
>>91733749Why does a vaporizer need an aerosol. Just fucking inhale.
>>91724747Why would you vape in Japan anyway? The cigarettes there are good, it’s not like the US where most of them are shit now.
>>91739064Ciggies cause cancer no matter where you are nigga
>>91739064They smoke too much, so vaping is cool.
>>91739112No shit, I’m talking about the quality and strength of the cigs.
>>91728807Nobody even likes Niji anymore retard, stop pretending the corporation that doesn't care about you is heavensent, I can't imagine more cucked behavior
>>91738670miko doesn't do that shit due to her respiratory issues. Thank god she avoided this bullet.
>>91738670Thank god you are blind
>it's ok if holos vapeok, who are the ones vaping?
>>91739542Consenting adults
Vaping is to smoking what Hololive "yabs" are to Nijisanji yabs.
>>91735241Doesn't she know that only I can satisfy her oral fixation?
>cancer occurs ITT 27 timesIs there even any proven link between vaping and cancer?
>>91739968the link between nicotine and cancer has been known for a long time now, if you’re talking about nic free vapes idk
>>91739968vaping hasn't existed long enough for conclusive studies
I know more people who started vaping and switched to cigarettes than I do reverse
>>91724747I blame the government and all their damn taxes making smokes too expensive for kids to afford anymore, that and all the anti-cigarette propaganda
>>91740587So true, and all the doctors clapped as you posted this
>>91729467she was actually critical of the product and gave a very honest reviewbased doggo as always
>>91740722what?Was it not clear that I meant>I know more people who started smoking because of vaping than I know people who quit smoking through vaping
>>91739968The issue is that nobody knows yet. People are just inhaling random crap. If nothing happens in the future, then great. But considering how fragile humans are (and that we're already made of 20% of microplastics too), expect zoomers to drop like flies in 20/30 years.
>>91739968No, but the studies are based on how lungs look which correlates similarly.
>>91727261this actually looks cool
>>91726549I am comfortable with Cover taking the money of said companies in exchange for none of my patronage.
>>91724841trying to fool your body's addiction
>>91727261I can't believe these corporate idols would be so corporate...
>>91741221False equivalence.
>>91731800Dude, did you know that even aspiring the shower droplets can give you a fucking legionnaires infection? Vaping or smoking will eventually get you but that shit can enter you in a single shower if you're unlucky like that
>>91724747Based. Nicotine by itself is one of the least harmful and most beneficial drugs, I would even call it the "productive" drug, moreso than caffeine and that's something. Weed is also good, but it has more effects on the immune system than nicotine, which gets the noggin jogging pretty nicely and without drawbacks (assuming no filler or chemical additives that big tobacco likes to put).Japan has a kind of obsession with certain substances and chemicals, compared to other countries. Two of these being Thiamine (aka vitamin B1) and Menaquinone (Vitamin K in MK4 and MK7, from natto dish). They are excellent for overall wellbeing, you just have to look at their longevity to know they're right. Fuck antismoking trannies.
>>91741221I mean that's not the point in contention here. there's morally better and safer products to shill than this.
>>91739968Why would you inhale fumes from a random plastic toy and think it won't cause cancer?Zoomers are basically justifying vaping based off the "there hasn't been enough time to do studies!" cope that the boomers used in the 50's to justify smoking. They're in for a rude awakening in 10 years when their lungs no longer work. But at least they supported their 2D anime girl by buying a vape.
Wait, hold on, is hololive promoting vaping now?Are they in some sort of a competition with nijisanji to see who's a worse company?
>>91741136This is the right answer, however, i still wonder how the fuck did Valkyrie Connect get so many... Plus the gifting... THAT GAME IS A BOREFEST, AND IT'S NOT EVEN PROPERLY HORNYBAIT, I DON'T GET IT
>>91741221I actually have no issue with them shilling random products. I just think they should use common sense and avoid obviously controversial crap.And here I thought it couldn't get worse than gacha games.
>>91741542>muh moral high ground
>>91741661There used to be a thing called honor in this nation.
>trying to spin this as a drama>when there are alcohol collabs from chuubas in all placescome on sisters...
>>91741687Which nation are you referring to, exactly?
>>91724747What's the point of vaping if it has no nicotine?
>>91724747Get back to me when they release branded heroin.
>>91726549https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACiehYEihuIlook at comments demanding some sugar drink marketing from the girls just because one of them talked about it oncepathetic consumers
>cancer, from vaping>:(>cancer, from vaccines:O
>>91739064>where most of them are shit now.How are they shit?t. non americanSome brands actually put the nicotine content in milligrams per cig, but I guess there are many factors at play for how hard they hit. You might be interested in dokha tobacco if you want something that hits hard.
>>91731151>our generation(Millennials) had the lowest smoking rates in history and then you retards had to fuck it upOur generation (zoomers) correctly realized that none of us are ever gonna be able to own a home or afford a family + the world's gonna end in like 50 years anyway from either global warming or WW3 so you might as well enjoy yourself unlike you sad fucks
>>91724747>Random anons itt quarrelling about kids and vape like they will ever see either of them in their entire meaningless life as a human being.
>>91742434>the world's gonna end in like 50 years anyway from either global warming or WW3 so you might as well enjoy yourself unlike you sad fucksevery generation thinks this. even Boomers thought they'd be the last generation due to nuclear war. it's always wrong and then the burnouts who spent their life thinking they won't grow old end up miserable with tons of health problems.
>>91724747>random anons all holed up in their mothers' basement acting like they gave a crap about what the outside world is doing in 4ch
>>91742434Who enjoys feeling like they're 60 years old when they're in their 30s?
All that talk about inhaling chemicals is making me hope for a Hololive pheromones diffuser. Imagine smelling your oshi while she streams. Don't tell me modern science can't bring me that.
>>91742578the world getting fucked by increasing climate fuckery and environment shit getting completely assfucked is observable and actively happening. boomers being scared they were going to nuke each other was just good for media ratings. Though it probably won't get too much worse for my in my life time but shit like bangladesh is just going to disappear p soon is a mood
>>91742882Climate change won't end the world in the next 50 years. It's more like 500-1000 years. It'll just be a long period of terrible natural disasters, crop failures, global famine, water shortages, etc. Multiple generations will be born into that life and not know anything else, just like zoomers were born into the dead internet and don't know what it looked like when it was alive.
>>91742180If you took two seconds to look up what tokucha is, you'd see it's a special kind of green tea with zero calories that's meant to reduce fat.
>>91734180Qrd?
商品のweサイトにはこうある>装置内もしくは専用カートリッジ内の液体(リキッド)を電気加熱させ発生する蒸気に溶け込んだ成分の味や香りを楽しむ製品です。>吸引時に発生する蒸気には、POWER、REST共にプロピレングリコール、香料が含まれます。これに加えPOWERにはカフェインが、RESTにはGABAが含まれます。なお、プロピレングリコールは液体の化合物で、食品等に広く使用されています。一方で、PGの熱分解によりpropylene oxide, formaldehyde, acetaldehyde, methylglyoxal等の有害な化合物が生成するという報告もある
>>91742572>>91742691Oof this cut deep. Especially retards that deem it worthy to reply to a post 4 hours ago and then suddenly get another reply almost immediately because OP and his team of shitters don't have a life outside 4ch.
>>91743368Things even the Japanese fear.
>>91743368just another nijisanji moment
>>91742265>>>/pol/
>>91726117Laplus is a channel for ojisans
>>91726117Raden smoke as a long-running joke.
>>91726117I fucking love art hos
>>91724747They already shill alcohol which is worse.
>>91747351You act like you even know what % all the drinks are.
>>91747351Eh, alcohol is never going away, it's a worldwide institution and part of the social fabric. Meanwhile vapes and ciggies can all be done away with with no cultural impact.
>>91724747>Cover is being dragged by doctors>Pic a literally nobody on twitter
>>91724747Every single adult in Japan smokes. They should be getting kids addicted to vaping if anything
>>91731973>inhaling smoke>smoked meatsYou're actually fucking retarded aren't you. 100% has to be a stoner with this level of brain damage
>>91748606He's right though.
>>91748717100% of cancer patients drinks water and breath oxygen too..
>>91747351>which is worse.This. Alcohol has absolutely no benefit whatsoever. Doesn't even feel good.
>>91724747Needs rape correction
>>91748247>Eh, alcohol is never going awayWrong, good luck trying to space travel with alcohol.
>>91725281That is very sad. On the bright side we have vtubers now. Vtubers are as censored as possible.
vaping is gay just fucking smoke don't be a pussy
>>91728207What use is there even for shitcoins other than speculation?
>>91747351Alcohol is just drugs for pussies
>>91747351Purely looking at it in terms of how badly it damages your body, this is correct. If someone were to drink as often as most smokers/vapers do their thing, they would not last long.But then people rarely do that. The vast majority of people have much better moderation when it comes to drinking. It also takes a bit longer before you end up being an annoyance to those around you, where vaping/smoking is an instant annoyance. Also many smokers do it outside, in public, only adding to that. It's much rarer for someone to be drinking in public.That said, enough alcohol ends up making you a proper danger to those around you depending on how you are while drunk, while smoking requires someone either have specific health issues already or be in close proximity to smokers for years and years before it's an actual danger.As such I would argue, in moderation, alcohol is not worse.
>>91724915They're not far off. The sorts of shit dealers are growing nowadays is ultra strong shit that melts kid's brains and turns them into schizo zombies.
>>91738239everybody knows alcohol is not allowed for minors and most stores refuse to sell them to underaged people. this vape is apparently more accessible and kids can buy them, so yeah it's much more dangerous. it's the same reason why Balatro is 18+ because it teaches you how to play Poker
>>91741596ok, you're not fooling anyone sister.
>>91736928This was worse, honestly. Children listened to these morons and had to go to the hospital.
>>91736501No
