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>everything is great
>Too disgusted to name her just like Kronii, Mori and Bae
I'm glad Ina set the record straight. We can now blame Fauna and Ame.
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>vagueposts on stream
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>>91758343
To be fair, management fucked up her visa and thousands of dollars and her work for months. I'd give her a pass considering management seems to be so anal with Fauna for some reason. She probably doesn't want anymore management bullshit considering they already fucked with her
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>>91758343
>visa fumbled
>sides with management
HMM
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You lost cuckvtm
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>>91758874
>Management forced collab after Fauna kept dodging her genmates
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>>91758798
>We're gonna fix your visa faster if you side with us
>Ina: sure, should I also mention Fauna's graduation?
>No just vaguepost around it. Even better to just ignore it
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>>91758343
this bitch has streamed 3 times this month
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>>91759197
You're stupid
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>>91759162
2 more weeks, right sis?
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Are we still going with this rrat? They don't hate fauna you fucking niggers
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>>91759299
>Addresses Fauna as "things"
Uhuh
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>>9175927
>2 more weeks
Why the fuck are you excited with Fauna leaving?
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A bunch of holoanti itt
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>>91758992
I can hear the inhaler.
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>>91758343
https://youtu.be/12zaCxNJJ7o?t=2455

Ina already had issues with Cover "forgetting" her work visa and there is a reason she only made employer friendly statements. None of the other talents want to rock the boat when management is already in a foul mood. That vague statement from Fauna during her graduation announcement about having a disagreement with management is the only explanation that fans will get and the rest is going to be a mystery.


>>91758798
https://youtu.be/12zaCxNJJ7o?t=3518

>I support everyone in their endeavors
>I'm glad that I got to meet them in my life time
>We'll miss having them around
>I just want to support them in their decisions
>I want to see them off with a smile
Ina was polite but with the strict Hololive NDA that is really the most any of them can say.
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>>91760377
>rlposting management
I always knew they were the most important people at Hololive.
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Obviously Ina is going to be fine with cover returning to china and buddying up with tencent etc given her other line of work
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>>91758343
Can anyone give me a qrd on Ina's situation?
Did Cover not provide her with an actual work visa and that's the reason the Japanese government kept her from leaving?
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>>91758343
what the fuck did miko and suisei do to this poor girl
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>>91760944
>Yagoo, Suisei, Miki, Bae and Mori are pointing a gun at Ina and forcing her to make this bootlicking statement
Glad you set the record straight anon.
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>>91760944
>Mentioning Fauna is now a violation of NDA and will anger management.
Fuck that shit
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>>91761037
Cover screwed up the renewal of her working visa, so she couldn't do any work as "Ninomae Ina'nis" while in Japan, otherwise she would get qualified as an illegal worker, deported and blacklisted by jap immigration
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Management Cute
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Holoanti's BTFO
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>>91761349
I was thinking they had her go with a tourist visa and she somehow got found working.
Thanks for clarifying!
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>>91761349
>couldn't do any work as "Ninomae Ina'nis" while in Japan
Any work in general, presumably. They don't give a visa to "Ninomae Ina'nis"
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>>91761827
Your point?
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>>91758343
That makes it sound like Ina wants to leave too, but isn't sure about whether or not she should...
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>>91758343
Fauna is now just a "things". I want to believe management forced her to say this, but with other talents saying management don't force anything. I don't know anymore.
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>>91760944
this fucking NDA is way too strict, it's very obvious she's being super super careful with her wording like what the hell has to be hidden? Jeez dude, the fucking management has a tight grip on all of them

>That vague statement from Fauna during her graduation announcement about having a disagreement with management is the only explanation that fans will get and the rest is going to be a mystery.
This sounds realistic and it really sours my mood. Tiptoeing around the issue like this is the one thing they will never address despite the other problems they've been criticized for is something they can address. Wow, who knew management is the one thing that can never be criticized about despite the massive amount of problems. My image of them fixing themselves is forever broken beyond repair
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Another day, another bait thread.
I will apologize to saplings when lemonleaf is more productive and successful than fauna. otherwise, accept that you chose the wrong oshi and fuck off.
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>>91762743
Management likely did ask Ina and the other talents to avoid saying their names while talking about their graduations. That seems excessive but Hololive never had this many graduations in only 6 months. They don't want negative rumors to spread so they are heavily encouraging some damage control.
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>>91760944
>Cover "forgetting" her work visa
You can keep repeating this schizo fucking idiocy all you want, it's still going to be blatantly untrue.
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>>91765250
how is it untrue? It came from Ina's mouth that someone at Cover screwed up
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>>91758343
Nah. Still love Ina, still love Fauna, still love Dooby, still love HoloEN.
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>>91765411
The quotes around "forgetting" are what make it untrue- that schizo lunatic who needs to take his fucking meds is saying, as they have in previous threads, that Cover fucked up Ina's visa on purpose to make her have to cancel/postpone some of the work she was planning on doing in Japan because they wanted to use whatever company resources she was using (ie time in the studio) on something else. Nevermind the fact that even if it was true that they wanted to make her cancel/postpone her shit it makes absolutely zero sense for them to go about it by fucking up her visa rather than just directly saying "no, you can't do the thing because reasons."
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>>91765680
>Cover fucked up Ina's visa on purpose to make her have to cancel/postpone some of the work she was planning on doing in Japan because they wanted to use whatever company resources she was using (ie time in the studio) on something else.
After the 3 month "health" break with the lost work phone why do you have any trust in management? Ina was able to record everything for the World Tour concerts but somehow only her 3D live was indefinitely delayed. Hololive is a business and while I don't think they are villains they do make harsh business decisions which has been really obvious in recent months.
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If everyone's been bought by management, that still means everyone considers Fauna's situation utterly worthless.
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>>91758798
Stockholm syndrome
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>>91764332
Kek that sounds similar to >>91759162
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>>91766023
>Ina was able to record everything for the World Tour concerts but somehow only her 3D live was indefinitely delayed
Yeah, because they obviously did all of that recording in the summer when everyone was in town for Breaking Dimensions recording/rehearsal, hence there being 3 EN members in it and the two ID picks being the same for both the world tour and BD, while Ina obviously wasn't going to try and do her personal 3D live shit at the same time as those two things so she scheduled it all for fall. Which means there was a month and a half between when recording for that was finished and when Ina's visa got fucked, which seems like a long time to wait to pull the trigger if it was a calculated act of sabotage.

And again, there's still the question of "why would Cover fuck up her visa on purpose rather than just cancel her shit directly?" Fucking up the visa on purpose just makes them look incompetent and doesn't really make Ina or her fans any less mad at Cover than they'd be if Cover just said "fuck off, we changed our mind and decided you can't do the thing we said you could do earlier." Even if you start from the assumption of Cover having some weird hatred of Ina it doesn't make any fucking sense.
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>>91767044
Why is Cover even responsible for Ina's visa in the first place.
Pretty much how it works for every country in the world is the VISA applicant has to show up at the embassy and do everything by themselves.
The companies can provide a legal contract, and guidance, but pretty sure it's illegal for a Cover manager to apply for VISA instead of Ina.
And in the case Cover forgot to remind Ina to reapply her own VISA.... that's even worse. Ina is an adult. She should have at least know when her VISA expired.
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>>91758343
Sisters just need to admit to themselves that Hololive is bulletproof.
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>>91767244
Doing a quick google search you need a sponsor for a visa in Japan. That's presumably Cover's role and it was paperwork for that that they fucked up.
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>>91767361
those can be reprinted in a day. Honestly don't see how it's that hard to replace.
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>>91758343
>Says something incredibly vague
>Everyone here extrapolates a whole bunch of shit to reinforce their preconceived notions
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dramafags lost
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>>91767469
>not factoring JP corpo autism that delays turnaround time
lmao
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>>91761827
She could still work for non-Japanese companies and customers, including her Chinese ones. Imagine you went abroad as a tourist, you can still reply to emails and do work on your laptop. But you can't work for local companies, because that would be illegal immigration.
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>>91767244
If it's a "temporary" work visa those are usually 90% handled by the company. The only thing the worker has to do is bring all the completed paperwork to the consulate/migration office.
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>>91758343
it's kinda weird to assume how someone thinks on their behalf.
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To begin with, notIna takes on a lot of work for Japanese publishers.
If you want to work in Japan, you have to collect the necessary documents from all the contracted companies.
It is not only cover companies.
However, as a vtuber, notIna is set up to “not accept commissions from Japanese publishers.
I don't think I can admit that INA is the same as NOTINA.
The visa issue is, of course, a cover company issue.
It seems to me that the Japanese publishers are less familiar with visa applications than the cover company is.
If ina feels that the failure to submit the required documents is the responsibility of the Japanese book publishing company rather than the cover company, then ina's feelings toward the cover company may not be so bad.
Isn't kumomane, in effect, written by ina?
And the latest statement that he is taking the cover company into consideration in his latest statement.
Responsibility for visa issues may be different than what anon thinks.
Again, “proof of income from working in Japan” must be collected from companies other than Cover, in the case of ina's performer.
Will all the companies send the documents to her without any problem?

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>>91768018
>Isn't kumomane, in effect, written by ina?
ここはちょい微妙だ。くもマネのことはイナが活動禁止の間twitterとか使ったりできるための製作物ってこと?それとも、普通にくもマネのキャラを描いたってこと?
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Do you guys forget that Chloe is also graduating or do you want her to specifically work in "chloe and fauna and ame and aqua" awkwardly
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>>91758343
How can she defend Cover after what they've done with her visa?
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>>91770170
it's not like she cares much about being able to stream
i commend for having the balls to fully blame cover for it in public tough, unlike cowards like IRyS
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kill yourself bvtm
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>>91758343
if anything goes wrong the scouting team will find new talent that are better than the girls that came before
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>>91770170
Its been a month.
Most people are mad about something for a bit but let it go when there is nothing they can do about it



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