Yagoo's response to the graduations
>>91759748ok, where is Achan then? fuck you Yaggo <3
>>91759748Based yagoo, setting the record straight
>>91759748I thought Yagoo was rational. What the fuck is this answer?
>>91759748This does not inspire confidence
>>91759819>canned PR statement>setting the record straighthmmmmm
>>91759795>>91759853Everything is fine Fauna dickriders.Fuck off.
>>91759934I don't care about Fauna. I'm worried about the rest of the girls.
>>91759748Well I mean it's better than saying "pfft it's negligible, keep buying my stock lmao" but it's also not very detailed a response besides "we're trying to fix it." I mean he can't really give gory details since it's probably sensitive and defamation laws in Japan are very strict so he can't badmouth Fauna's manager even if they were the most useless thing ever.
>>91759819Bae's statement really didn't sit well with me. It really put me off her.
>>91759748The classic non-statement statement
>>91760001I trust respected members like Ina, Mori, Suisei and Kronii over the green whore.
>>91760119>Kronii>Respectedlol not even by herself
>>91760119>trusting corpo cocksucking bootlickers
>>91760001I wouldn't worry, only fans is still pretty profitable
>>91759795Achan isn't a talent.
>>91760045I don't think the manager vs fauna fight was because the manager was useless.I think it was because I didn't allow her to do what she wanted.>>91760065Sometimes that's fine, imagine if he said that they were all lazy whores and that they didn't deserve to work at his company.It would be funny but it would be the end of everything.
>we hope fans will stay with usHe is aware of talent taking a portion of their fanbase when they leave Hololive
>>91760276Yes
>>91759748>we hope the fans will stay with usby all accounts, they have. see: dooby's ccv
>>91760398If that's true, kson wouldn't have said that you left.
>>91759748>We are doing everything we can to make it better I thought management was perfect and the people leaving were just greedy grifters? Get your story straight, Holodrones
>>91759748>we hope that the fans will stay with us and watch over our talents moving forward.Wait... are we the managers now?
>>91760398>>91760489Now, which of you is right?
>>91760362>I don't think the manager vs fauna fight was because the manager was useless.Because you don’t know anything about what you’re talking about. Fauna’s manager was notoriously useless.
>>91760398>the portion = less than 5k viewers and declining
>>91759748Not even a fucking answer. If Suisei, Marine, or Watame leave with the same response as the others, I hope one of their fans stabs him.
>>91760559>I am right because I am rightOk, I'm not debating this with you but you have to improve your arguments.
>>91759819The problem with Suisei's response is that she's a completely different person than most of the other girls that stream. She streams maybe once or twice a month. Meanwhile you have other girls who pretty much complain that they have so much work they can't stream and she just doesn't even seem to realize this fact.
>>91760362>I
>>91760398Doob and Sakuna are already below their hololive averagesThen there's kson and michael cat...
fauna graduated over fucking game perms (confirmed by kiara)this is why you never choose a vegan
>>91760554neither and both. They left cordially, so people outside of the gachis watch both.
>>91760527>>91760546>>91760578>IMcucks have entered the thread
>>91760674We're not doing this dance again, sister. This has been talked about plenty of times in the last two weeks.
>>91760711>confirmed by kiaraProof? I'm not trusting "orange woman said..."
>>91759819>>91760062Me too. You can't dismiss criticism by saying it's okay because the company is changing. Fauna is a top tier talent, and if the management do not want to support her dreams, maybe they should reevaluate their staff.
>>91760686Yeah?>>91760721It's not that I disagree with you but that's not what the other anon said. You can't be up and down at the same time.
>>91759819Once again, the Mori image in this collage was edited and you're a faggot for reposting ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRIK_g-2-ds&t=1430s
>>91760711classic white woman enrages over small things (good thing im married to asian bright skinned woman)
>>91760777sister?
>>91759934>>91760119>Everything is fine>Ina>who just got back after spending a month in jail because management couldn't even do the bare minimum. you bitches are brainwashed
>>91760711I like video games more than the singing and dancing
>>91760578>holomem & management :"our goal are not align anymore and we choose to seperate our way">schizo & holoantis :"tell me the reason so i can murder you"Post hand color.
>>91760119You gave yourself away with this list lmao
>>91760562>>91760709Dooby has the same amount of viewers, neither increased or decreased.
>>91760921>Literally verbatim says people are leaving despite everything being fineAre you saying she's lying?
>>91760843Yes, Fauna is talented but she is the only talented person in the company.
>>91760861Thanks, she's a bootlicker too. That edit was made to make her look better compared to the others.
>>91760971>literally negligible
>>91761002not the only*
>>91759748what a fucking non-answer, tells me jack shit
>>91760971>Hasn't even been 2 monthsEven kson couldn't stay relevant
>>91760711>>91760884>>91760929>samefagging sister
yeah things are awesome! that's why the girls love streaming and stream every day or at least once a week!
>>91760971I think they're scared because they were really expecting Dooby to tank after a while. But she's streaming more than she has in a long while and she's still going strong. They were hoping she'd be another Kson.I haven't been keeping up with Sakuna so I don't know what's up with her but with the insane numbers she was pulling immediately before and after her graduation I'm not surprised she lost some numbers, that was to be expected.
>>91761021>t. Nijisister forcing their meme
>>91760972>Literally verbatim says people are leaving despite everything being fineWhere?
>>91760684When you get to her level of recognition, you either stay humble and grounded or become completely out of touch with your former peers.
>>91760843>top tierSub 1 mil
>>91761070mad?
>>91760684>>91761166how do you explain pekora and miko streaming like 6 hours everyday then?
>>91761075Sakuna's ccv stabilized and is now the same she had while in holo
>>91761159>There are times when even when everything is great you want to try something else in your life
>>91761199no. funny, because you're talking out of your ass
>>91761200I've seen people asking this in response to that retarded argument and they never reply lol they can't refute it
>>91761070whats the matter? Sapcuck had a melty that she's in the wrong side and now resorting with no arguments?
>>91761200Pekora is one of the girls cited by >>91760684
>>91760843>Fauna is a top tier talentFauna a shit
>>91761075>>91761226Don't make me pull up my spreadsheets and grudgepost all over the catalog. You'll cry about "bvtm" and "browns" again when you run out of arguments.
>>91761075>But she's streaming more than she has in a long while and she's still going strong.She's streaming like 1-2 times a week and just cancelled her stream today for the second day in a row.
>>91761200Because they're at the level where they have sway within the company to get what they want when they need it. Why does nobody seem to acknowledge the fact that some of the more prolific girls can afford to pay additional assistants within the company to do the bullshit grunt work for them?
>>91761190#2 in ccv, #3/4 in merch, #3-4 in SCs. Fauna doesn't get subs because she never cared for it. She's the only EN to not do any #shorts vertical streams to farm subs. She fucking hates tourists.
>>91761353>Don't make me pull up my spreadsheets This guy actually has Asperger holy shit.
>hit 1million subs>leave>start shitposting with asmrgreen bitch
>>91761388those anons never worked irl not knowing how management works top to bottom
>>91761287What argument? Retard. You're inventing scenarios to cope. Kiara never said that.
>Hello I have a concern abot this specific issue, could you address it?>We will continue to revolutionize outside of the box, shift paradigms, cross barriers and disrupt with innovation and diversityActual slimy businessman bullshit
>>91761256>literally>verbatimLearn English, monkey.
>>91759748still a generic ass reply that doesn't reallly address the root problem
>>91761388Uhh bro? You weren't supposed to have an answer? What about the narrative?
>>91761388what about kaela? luna (save for her brief break recently)? koyori? subaru? biboo? okayu?
>>91761353That's her average in Hololive too, retardGOD.
>>91761502They need to ask an actual specific question like what has changed within Hololive recently that is causing girls to suddenly start leaving.
>>91761075>But she's streaming more than she has in a long while>Just canceled 2 streams in a row and already went on a 3 week hiatusI swear, doobfags enjoy getting made fun of. They're just asking for it.
dooby the best tech vtuber
>>91759748Honestly I kinda like this answer. It's delivered in a weirdly emotional way for a JP business man.
>>91761800>emotional?
>>91761573Kaela: ID is already known to operate differently than the other branches because they get less attention from corporateLuna: hag that knows she needs to farm as much money as she can instead of going back to a corporate job that pays less (this applies to most hags). Enjoying being a streamer also helps. If you know her past, you know.Koyori: workaholic hag that likes mcing, not a normal specimenSubaru: workaholic but not a hag, has had numerous issues in the past overworking herself and accepting too many offersBijou: I don't watch her, so I'd rather not make something up for the sake of it since that's cringeOkayu: also a workaholic that has worked physical labor in the past, so using playing video games while streaming as her relaxation method works for her. She also doesn't like to be alone and chat helps with that.
>>91760972Anon do you think Ina wants to be fired? There is only so much the other Hololive talents can say and it's obvious they are walking on eggshells. That "everything is great" is what management asked everyone to say and wouldn't take that at face value considering her recent work visa issues.
>>91759795She's busy handling her pregnancy with our child.
>>91760711I knew Kiara would know why. She's the only one that ever knows what's going on.
>>91759819Ehh idk i wouldn't say these are the best non-biased girls to get a statement from.>Suityan can do whatever the fuck she wants>Mori on her own was nobody and she ows everything she has as an artist to hololive>Corpo dog>Kronii lacks confidence on herself and has overall low self steem, but she can always say "hey at least im part of hololive! and hololive is goooood!"
>>91761036>>91761002You're right. So was Aqua and Chloe.
>>91760711What does that have to do with being vegan though?
>>91760711>(confirmed by kiara)where?
>>91761954>She's bootlicking because she's a cowardShe'd quit if she had balls. She doesn't even need the job.
>>91762044>>91759819Kronii's is funny when you go back half a year to her having a meltdown over Cover not promoting her outfit or releasing her song.
>>91762117And she was rightfully upset about it. And now when her friend actually needs her back, she's turning the cold shoulder. That's some cold shit right there man.
>>91761927Kaela has talked about "homework" as well, several times. But she finishes it early so she can continue nolife-ing Balatro.Biboo moved to Japan and her streaming schedule has remained pretty much unaffected in general.
>>91761256>everything is greatI very much doubt that everything is indeed great when had to stop streaming and tweeting because management fucked up. I mean, saying something like "it's not the best but it isn't bad" is more believable than "yeah there's literally no problems and she just wants to do something" even though she said the problem was with management and the fact that she's 100% gonna do the same thing when she graduates.
>>91761954Considering everyone seemed to have similar PR responses I'd say management did more than just ask.
>>91762117yeah lol lot's of bad things have happened to her since, well always, stupid ass blue woman should just marry me and worry about raising my brown kids.
>>91759748The Vtuber business is flawed. Unlike traditional intellectual properties like Mickey Mouse, Batman, Pikachu, Hello Kitty, or Barbie, the "IP" in Vtubing is a human being. The IP can talk back, become ill, get demoralized, face incarceration, become pregnant, or just break NDA. How the fuck is he going to stop humans from being human?
>>91762197post a picture of your nose
>trust the talents>talents say they can do what they want>noooo you're a corpo dog look i'll compile a picture of only the more successful ones saying it and ignore everyone else
>>91759748Methinks that if everything is really ok we shouldn’t need to hear the same “message” over a month repeatedly.You know what they say about protesting too much.
>>91761923It's not pragmatic and detached he says "we really care about our talents" and "we are trying to make it better." These are expressions of emotion rather than straight pr speak and personally that gives me some relief that he doesn't want it to become soulless corpo
>>91762287what the fuck are you talking about emotions? are you a girl perhaps, can you show me your boobies? :)
>hitting 1 mil sub>asmr content that nearly 100% of it are just being mindfuck about shit post And here I thought, She was as soft and soothing , shes hiddenly doing bitch move for her own self
>>91759795Talentless
>>91762197And yet actors, singers, fleshie streamers have things figured out better than corpo Vtubers. Here’s a clue: maybe they should stop trying to imitate an incredibly shitty industry from Japan.
>>91762074It came to me in a dream.
>>91762197The "IP" is the drawn avatar. Talent is not "IP." Any old voice can give "IP" personality. Mark Hamill is Luke Skywalker, not vice-versa.
>>91762266you have never worked for a big corpo before and it shows
>>91762453you've never worked outside of minimum wage and it shows
>>91762117If Kronii is malding out of her mind on stream over management fucking her over it's just not that serious, she is just being silly, tee-hee. https://youtu.be/mO9B1SEMj9c?si=kBbgA6HMr9bXpDdl&t=35She would leave if it was serious! Oh Fauna is leaving the same way? Well fuck her I guess.
>>91760398Pretty sure most just stop watching vtubers.
>>91762453Oh shit>>91762500OH SHIT
>>91762585singular braincell moment
>>91762533>my dreams show that vtubing will die next year trust me!
>>91762677NTA but I definitely would stop watching vtubers altogether if my oshi graduates. It's just painful to see everyone having fun without her.>will you follow her to her next life?I would, but I have a feeling it wouldn't last.
>>91759748yeah but losing Aqua and Chloe makes no fucking sense
>>91760711Letting go of becoming an idol over video games is retarded.
>>91761353bvtm coded post
>>91761353Maybe it'd be more convincing if you didn't post it on twitter literally seconds after you fucking make the thread.
>>91761954>Anon do you think Ina wants to be fired?>Ina>one of the members that would totally fine even without hololive
>>91762266Fauna probably didn't realize how much more powerful than her manager she was, and she took it until it reached breaking point.Same thing that happened with Ame, except Ame was a slow bleed of frustrations due to models and perms and this and that vs Fauna where it was a singular specific moment that pissed her off enough to graduate with a 5 minutes video instead of hours long live. I almost believe it was entirely a woman moment
it's time to admit that hololive and nijisanji should have never left japan, and their western products are shit.there is no usada pekora (EN).
>>91763146Why is being an idol so appealing in the first place ? You wanna do cover songs picked by your managers and learn dances? Fauna specifically was not musical and I don't think someone could make her a competent musician if they tried. She had other things going for her .
>>91763327Fauna seems like a case of year+ neglect by management, culminating in indefinite delay or outright cancellation of her orisong with Mumei, which made her finally snap.
>>91763454even someone huge like pekora is not an idol she has no special talent in music. She is a streamer who plays videogames and makes people laugh.
>>91761422>#3/4 in merch, #3-4 in SCs.More like #5 in a good month.
>>91762422OK replace the voice behind the another avatar an see where that gets you
>>91763983I think they did this with kizuna ai and it sunk the whole project. Was one of my first moments of thinking "Jesus japanese companies cannot see the forest for the trees"
>>91759819>grifters sticking to save their money WOOOOOOOWWWWWWW
>>91760929Go watch vspo
>>91764115>Was one of my first moments of thinking "Jesus japanese companies cannot see the forest for the trees"It was a valid tentative the first time, before that we didn't know if they were more actors playing a character or virtual idols.
>>91764189I took a look and saw valorant, csgo, and league of legends. I don't think these girls are for me man
Only shitters left hololive.And I don't mean this in a cope way. I'm just saying>ecks D loud equals funny IMPROVE YOURSELF>"ASMR" vtuber that makes sure to tell you she's not your friend>Too autistic to streamWho cares that these people aren't in hololive? Maybe care a little bit about for Aqua but Fauna and Ame didn't give a fuck the vtubing at all so why cry over them bailing?
>>91764666cope
>EN only know how to complainreally makes me think
>>91764491those are video game retard
>>91765406I was looking for autism simulators and random indie games
>>91765617Phase connect
>>91761927I do not watch Bijou either, but someone posed her PL a bit after debut and she seems to genuinely enjoy it (or at least is incredible at grinding it out). Like, she was a 2view and was still streaming on average like 4 hours a day (near 30 hours a week).
>>91765835Nice, I see some project moon games. Good call anon
>>91766388Nice try, but no one buys it. You’ll have to try to tear down Hololive some other time.
>>91766373No prob man. I'm not a phase expert but I know lumi and jelly are often playing factorio-esque autist games and tenma often plays very interesting obscure things. All 3 are also quite funny.
>>91762266>trust the talents staying with the corporation that are financially incentivized to be mouthpieces for the company>those who are leaving over bad experiences are lying and exaggerating
>>91759795>a-chanRetarded fuck.
>>91767086>those who are leaving over bad experiences are lying and exaggeratingExcept in Hololive case they don't. Noone leaving said anything particularly bad about the company. It's saplings that are having a melty (with full support of the usual dramascum ofc)
>>91759819grim
>>91760711Man, Fauna recently had that epiphany too about being a girl who only excels at VNs
>>91763454>Why is being an idol so appealing in the first place ?That's the great mystery of idolfaggotry.It's like dreaming to become a lounge singer.
>>91763884Nope. You can check it yourself.
Listen... listen to me all of you, for a moment.Now, we've had... well, a bad couple of months.I loved Mel... A-Chan... Aqua... Ame... Chloe... Fauna.Gura, Mumei they may be okay, we don't know. But we lost some folks.Now, if I could... graduate in their stead... I'd do it... gladly.But... we're gonna stream... and we are gonna shill some merch.Everybody, we're safe now.There ain't no antis following us through a shitstorm like this one... and by the time they get here... well we're gonna be... we're gonna be long gone.We've been through worse than this before.Mr. Jap... Miss Nodoka... I need you to turn this place into a concentration camp. We may be here for a few days.Now all of you... all of you... get your homework done.Stay strong. Stay with me. We ain't done yet!Come on, Sora.
>>91766388the parallels are uncanny
>>91760711I'm gonna start slapping "kiara said so" at the end of all my rrats.
>>91763417YWNBJ
>>91771088Did Kiara say this too?
>>91759819
>>91760711i like how theres zero source but kiara is so well known for just leaking shit with her big fat austrian mouth that nobody cares kek
>>91759748oh no who else is leaving?
>>91761287
>>91759795You retarded EOP shit stirrers shouldn't be talking about Eugene, it will only shows how much of a clueless EOP you are
>>91771821
>>91761226Way too early to be saying that when she's only done 10 streams, this is still the honeymoon phase. 3-4 months after graduation kson was still getting like 80% of her regular numbers, and now she's barely a 4 view if she's not doing something holo related.
>>91760546they're talking about all holopro talents in general.2025 is gonna be GRIM
>Why doesn't someone who doesn't want to get punished or fired openly talk shit about management? Clearly it's a Fauna problem only
>>91771088that boyfriend, me.
>>91771875>t.EOPvery fitting
>>91760711You know, I believe it
>>91762197>How the fuck is he going to stop humans from being human?unironically, they could use AI, which Yagoo has mentioned being interested in
>>91760001>I'm worried about the rest of the girls.Why? They're all perfectly fine and happy.
>>91759748>we are doing everything we can to make it betterso it IS bad currently.
Negligible.
>say something slightly negative about management once>have to spend the rest of your time at Hololive being "subtly" sabotagedI just can't figure out why they wouldn't do that…
>>91761063Kson was never that relevant. Her influence on the EN fanbase is greatly, greatly, GREATLY over-fucking-stated. She had very little to do with Myth's blow out success and the explosion of English vtubers. It's more funny to me that the people who dickride her were never around when the dragon was still at Hololive considering how tiny the fanbase was back then compared to now.
>>91773094Kys nijinig
>>91761954>this person who literally does Hololive for fun and has a real career on the side doesn't want to be fired>this means it's a terrible placeDo you listen to yourself?
>>91773285No way. Kiara has said many things in the past and still has plenty of oppertunities.
>>91773285Kiara has shit on Hololive more than everyone else combined and management personally eats out her asshole.
>>91773405>>91773428Kiara owns Jenma
>>91760062She and Fuwamoco moved to Japan to pursue hololive as a career.I like them, but they are corpo dogs now and will do anything to keep their job.
>>91759819>Ask same questions>Get same answers>Somehow this is pr stuntHoly schizo
The baseline of 'change brings growth' can be good or bad depending on what you like more from Hololive.>Merch, cross collabs with big corporations, and a few more 3d and special eventsOr>More time to stream>More freedom and downtime for talents to restI know which I'd rather have. Add in that it really does seem like they're trying to push for more and more time in Japan, and it's easy to see why someone like Fauna wouldn't want to be here. I assume Mumei isn't far behind.
>>91761650>every case is individual
>>91761650You already know the answer. Increased promos that are being pushed onto them no matter how much a few who 'take' few opportunities say they aren't forced, more trips to Japan for those who live abroad, and likely restructuring in talent pay/cuts.
>>91773768>Everyone's lying, only /vt/ schizos know The Truth
>>91773846>Massive increase in corporate sponsorships over the last 6 months>Massive increase in merchandise produced and released in the last yearI think you might have brain damage.
>>91773920>Girls say they take opportunities themselves and are not forced to do anything.>Retarded faggots know better.
>>91761353>still hasn't learned to change the filename
>>91774409it's common knowledge the guy is retarded
>>91760711She said the exact opposite, that the game perms are a small and insignificant factor
>>91773329Newfag likes you should shut the fuck up.Love Kson or not but her influence to EN fanbase is very greatly by " Reddit Meme Review"
>>91773069>everything >except the one thing that will definitively improve conditionsI would reply *sigh* but that has been claimed by le sighMAN
>>91759934Yagoo "We are doing everything we can to make it better"If things were going well you wouldn't be needing to make that statement and disagreements with middle management wouldn't result in the talents leaving or being abused/neglected.
>>91760333She was a beloved corporate talent that made the vtuber talents happy. Not being able or willing to find a way to keep her on staff was a huge red flag of how incompetently Holo is being operated.
>>91759819>Ignore the fact that Hololive is changingNo, I don't think i will. It panders to normalfags and has become a complete Disney-style slop. I don't fuck with that shit.
>>91775910>except the one thing that will definitively improve conditionswhich is?
>>91776098Great, fuck off
>>91773453I didn't know Jenma is black.
>>91776153>proud that Hololive is turning into Disney and a black company>consoomerOh, I did. But i implore you to develop standards too.
>>91776153Holobronies truly are the Disney Adults of Vtubing. Except even Disney Adults have boyfriends and girlfriends so they are even more pathetic.
>>91776266didn’t two 35p get married and found each other through hololive recently?
>>91776421So did 2 KFP, via some SC from a semi-regular yesterday.
>>91761388>can afford to pay additional assistants within the company to do the bullshit grunt work for them?You're gonna have to cite sources for this one cause even Miko/Peko have only talked about their one manager (each). Hell, Miko's long-time manager got replaced with a newbie one earlier this year, just as she was preparing for her Sololive, so she had more stuff to do.
>>91760362>>91775980WAIT WHAT HAPPENED PEKO D:that's so weird, I think any one who has a disagreement with talents never encountered anything like this before ;( did you receive a confirmation/OK sign to management before making a decision?
>>91760709Sakuna still gets big numbers she averages 20k+ per stream.
>>91760709Kson is actually in better state than Coco's before graduation announcement exclude Reddit meme review stream.
>>91778070Her Holocure streams too were pretty fun.
>>91778103that's some insane patience to wait until gen4 come out
Huh?
>>91773920>I think you might have brain damage.I think you do because why tf would talents have to take pay cuts if they are making more money through merch and sponsorships?
>>91759819Subtitles are 100% real and can’t be faked or taken out of context, amazing post.
>>91765129This isn’t a gotcha. Ex nijis ran that shit and dooby was just there, if anything this show how good ex nijis are in comparison to ex holos
>>91759819So Fauna was being a cunt trying to stir shit. Good to know. Let her stay with the schizo bitch Shondo and her pedophile viewers then as she seems to so desire.
>>91759748Such an non response, but honestly what did you expect Yagoo to say?
>>91776005>Not being able or willing to find a way to keep her on staffDo you think A-chan left because she got disagreement or some shit retard-chama? Or let me guess, her reason to quit is a made up lie and she is forced to say that, also forced her to properly say goodbye to everyone to show that they are in good term or else..
>>91759748>I had to find out about Axel's graduration from kiwifarms>This is the best he has to sayI don't feel so good holobros...
>>91759748>"It will be negligible" Based nipman
Is there any Hologirl who said anything different from muh changes good, talent leaving over disagreeement ogey? It's just the same message over and over in different fonts
>>91759748Graduations negrigibre prease consoom hororive
>>91775923>Yagoo "We are doing everything we can to make it better"While this might sound like corporate marketing I do believe that Yagoo does make some effort to find a middle ground during contract negotiations. Cover won't always compromise which is the reason for the recent graduations with Aqua, Ame, Chloe, and Fauna. I don't think the Hololive talents would agree to run damage control if the situation with management was really horrible but it varies for each talent.
>>91781726Of course they aren't going to shittalk their employer even if that was the reason. Do you expect them to go full Rushia?
corpospeak slop lol
>>91759819Posting images that are wrong on purpose curses you with shit on your dick
>>91760711You could claim anything and everything's been confirmed by Kiara without proof or source and I'd believe you. She does not know how to shut up. I really hope her eventual graduation is really rocky so he spills the beans on everyone.
>>91782638I mean, not even Rushia does that
>>91759748literally a non answer like what he gave when they asked about homos
>>91762266you are if youre batting this hard for a company instead of the people working for it
>>91763417The original product is just better
Fauna made it very clear that she disagreed with management so much that she decided to quit. You just have to figure out what the disagreement was. Personally I suspect that it's just that management is now more nosy than ever during streams in order to protect the brand as they start working with big companies like Coca-Cola and such.
>>91773329I am pretty sure Kson helped pick and train the Myth girls.
>>91784520NTA but no
>>91759748>we are doing everything we can to make it betterI was told there was nothing wrong.
>>91762532Her personal manager =/= the inbred retard running the HoloEN Twatter account who would rather shill homos than promote an outfit reveal or even acknowledge someone from Myth graduating
>>91760921Hmmm, ok. Hear me out. You get your wish and holo crashes. People stop watching vtubers and vtubing ends. All the people who would've watched the seething liggies fuck off. Liggies viewership never increases. Liggies still seethe.
>>91759819Stop boot licking
>>91771902Didn't Kson keep shitting on her English-speaking fans, though? She doesn't seem to want them, and a lot of Japanese people see her as a foreigner or returnee so she's more of a dancing monkey-type entertainer, not somebody to devote yourself to..
>>91784017Doesn't make sense when Fauna still has one of the most if not outright the most safe and family friendly channel. She doesn't like swearing, she rarely does sexual jokes, when she does it's like 5 layers of subtext innuendo, Disney movies have naughtier wink wink moments. She has Gerald button ready for anything inappropriate showing up on screen during games. So at the very worst it would be some game character swearing on her channel.
>>91785309Bet they are actually think that if Hololive gone then their irrelevant shitters will magically become relevant when in reality even the relevant indies are just ex-corpo or corpo adjacent
>>91760062>>91760843I heard her live and it was obvious this was very old news for her. She had way more time to digests it and focus on her own shit. She was feeling how non-samplings will feel about Fauna a few months after her graduation.And that's leaving aside how she sucks at dealing with these situations overall, not the right person to look for a relatable emotional speech
>>91789472Her response was basically Don't ask questions you WILL consoom holoslop and you WILL like it
>>91789532Her response was what she said. I didn't like that stream either but don't go schizo filling in the blanks with whatever you want, retard.
>>91789610>d don't speculate>you'll never get the answers to your questions If this isn't don't ask questions just consoom product what is?
>>91762197It could be fine if they just dropped the autistic Jap business model and Idol culture shit. I think vtubing has a lot of potential for the creatively minded who also happen to be introverted. Hololive just happen to a japanese company involved in Idol culture. Vtubing itself isn't necessarily defined by either of those. Certainly it will always be connected to anime culture, but that doesn't mean including things like "karoshi" and autistic "the boss needs to be obeyed even when he's wrong" tendencies.I kind of wish Gabe Newell or someone like him would invest in vtubing. Because at the end of the day we have to do with mainly introverted women with a tendency toward menhera. Leaving them alone to form their own corpos is a recipe for disaster, they need some form of business expertise that also knows when to back off and just let them do their stuff.
>>91789059>huge mental gymnastics to blame kson.You try too hard latinx
>>91785309>You get your wish and holo crashesWhat makes you think I want that?
>>91759795Playing for the Miami Dolphins for some unknown reason.
>>91759748What he says is irrelevant. You will always be a shit posting faggot.
>>91759795Bro let her spend time with her family.I know in muttland they want women to go right back to work after pushing out a kid, bit in most of the developed world we actually want mothers to spend time with their kids.
I will follow Dooby and Leaf, idc about this company anymore
>>91763417pekora's screeching is annoying as fuck. literally the same voice type as niji's Enna.
>j-just let everyone do what they want lol that's how to keep a company runningI hate the retarded children of this board so goddamn much. I swear the average age here gets younger every year.
>>91759748FAGOO is a kind goy bootlicker...
>>91760489It's the same as Ame's for like the past two years.
>>91761075Eh, I think antis were hoping she'd be like Mint or Doki, but Holos have always done worse outside of the corp, her viewership will halve in about 6 months.
>>91781281wtf why havent I even seen shitposting about this?
>>91776005A-chan is irrereplacable just like YAGOO, but she left for family reasons.
>>91759819>MoriUMJ contract, music holo, directly benefits from playing nice with management>SuiseiSame as Mori but it applies double for her>BaeHas done a shitload of music stuff and moved to Japan, benefits from playing nice with management>KroniiDuring her obsession with Vesper and Magni she asked management to protect her publicly on twitter, changed managers like twice until she finally got someone she liked, always enjoyed management that played nice with her but above all else: for reasons only they know, she fucking hates Fauna now so she's glad about the graduation and this isn't even some bullshit made up on 4chan, she literally avoided her like the plague and refused to say her name at all.Always, ALWAYS take a look at who defends them and how they stand to benefit from sucking up to the faceless management people.
>>91789532>Her response was basically Don't ask questions you WILL consoom holoslopThat is an over the top exaggeration and Bae was telling fans the harsh truth that none of the Hololive talents can give a detailed answer for Fauna's graduation. Cover fired Mel over a slight break in her NDA so the vague "disagreement with management" is the only explanation fans will ever hear. Unless fans can get management to give us more information what more do you expect from the other talents?>>91794373Cover is hiring a 100 employees a year while spending tens of millions of dollars on an MMO game. If this was because Fauna didn't want to keep flying to Japan to record paywall concerts than they lost her because of corporate greed. Whether it was 3D home recordings or VRChat their were other options so why shouldn't fans blame management?
>>91795517She hates Fauna for the same reason she hates Vesper and Magni.
>>91759748He said the exact same shit way back when Coco graduated, by the way. His word doesn't mean anything and it's all just standard Japanese fake courtesy, realistically he only cares about pleasing investors and anyone that leaves is easily replaceable and he knows it but can't say it due to his HAHA FUNNY MEME HECKIN WHOLESOME CEO bullshit.
>>91760711>trusting a*striansYou know they started three world wars, right?
To those of you who regularly post in these threads, you can keep scrubbing you hands but the only other color you're going to see is red at some point
>>91759819susei, hololive gave her everythingmori rat kroniimeh ignored corp suck up cause they have nothing now
>>91759748Does this mean there will be more graduations to come?
>Wah wah wah why isn't everyone constantly crying about someone in their branch isn't going to be graduating for weeks and put them in an incredibly awkward position even if unintentionally from how her statement was worded so now dramafaggots are needling every little fucking thing they sayIt really makes you wonder
>>91764143you clearly dont know what grifter means
>>91759748I found myself not watching Hololive anymore after Ame left. It's really weird how that happened because I watched a lot of the girls regularly, but Ame's graduation I just lost interest in everyone there. I still watch Bancho though.
>>91795517>Suisei>playing nice with managementNigga hasn't watched a second of her besides 30 second clips.
