I am curious after seeing posts like this.
>>91873293Based fuck league
>>91873293If her content got stale or I got sick of it. There was a time I could've been convinced Doki/Selen was my oshi but I got tired of her sense of humor and all the esports superstar collabs (long before the drama) and stopped watching.Or I guess if she, like, turned out to be involved in human trafficking or crypto scams or something I guess. But it'd have to be something pretty wild.
>NOOOO, YOU CAN’T PLAY THAT MOBA GAME OR I’LL GO SCHIZOIntense autism of this kind is rather odd
>>91873293If she burnt out and stopped trying to improve herself, just resigning herself to "safe" streams with hardly any interesting projects. I like the vtubers I watch because they're always reaching higher, bigger, or harder. When that stops, the magic is gone and they become just a shell not worth watching anymore. .
>>91873293Is this real? So we'll never hear "Hokan Dankeschön" again because she played a game like once?
I can't really imagine her doing anything so crazy
>>91873293Based. I feel like a single time is a bit schizo, though. But I would definitely be out as soon as it feels like it's going to become a regular thing.>What would you make quit watching your oshi? If my suspension of disbelief got broken in a way I don't like I guess? In other words if a chuuba took actions that go against the image I have of her in my head and I hated the "real" her.
>>91873293Wow vtuber "super" fans are giga subhumans. His reacting is like Kiara set his fucking house on fire.
>>91873807Wtf i love being sucking dick and assfaggot now!
>>91873293is this KFPigga serious
>>91874818This is a good description of nearly every day on this board
>>91873293This guy complained too much so honestly good riddance but what a pathetic excuse
>>91873293nothing unless they stop playing games at all since thats all i really watch
>>91873293I do not blame her. I absolutely despite LoL and DotA.
>>91873293I fucking kneel.
>>91873293She would have to end up being someone the complete opposite of who I thought she was. Other than that, I'm fine with kusoge.
>>91873807Fuck off, Kiara
>>91873293this is so pathetic
nothing really short of doki quiting streaming but then it wasnt really my choice so i guess that wouldn't count
loyalty is earned, not given
If it turned out she had done something criminal or highly unethical.
>>91873293betrayal of her fans
>>91873293Clearly not enjoying streaming. Gura's the perfect example. She clearly hasn't put in the minimum effort for years now. I find it odd so many people still subscribe to her and buy her merch when she's so distant.
>>91875903Still less than assfaggot player and their gook clicking mines where they perpetually loses their minds while tipping their abusers
>>91873293>politics>male collabs
>Don't waste time and keyboard saying "this is stupid" "this is only a game" "are you serious?" or something like that. LoL is cancer, LoL players are cancer (speaking from experience) and Kiara is now tainted by that so I can't look at her the same way as beforeholy based
>>91873293Post the full schizo meltdown
>>91873807Okay, like, normally you have a point, but years long relationships have been CRUSHED before due to league autism. Some people take shit like that WAY too seriously
>>91876761why do these faggots have to write a whole 200 word essay about leaving instead of just doing so silently?
>>91876354You okay?
if she admitted that she doesn't feel anything towards her fans and that it's just a character she playseverything else is negotiable. if she was a male with a voice changer and also a boyfriend and her stream quality took a nose it wouldn't matter
>>91874936>>91876354>being sucking dick>they perpetually loses their mindsWhich assfaggot redeemed your card, saar?
>>91873293interacting with or entertaining people who have strongly negative influences on vtubing, mainly:>dramafags>/pol/tardsI mainly watch JPs so low chance of that happening but one of the few ENs I like is very sociable and reaches out for collabs in all directions so I might be tested on this sooner or later
I dropped my 3view after a good half-year of abysmal schedules, game choices, and increasing coombaiting and chat and mod schizos. The nonstop stretch of really shitty games with no mixing up during the week is what made it really hard to watch.
>>91873849Based entertainment enjoyer.
I can think of very few things, like burning out like >>91873849 said or doing something truly disgusting and/or vile like a black stream.
>>91873293Spit on that retard.I'm actually ride or die for my oshi currently. She could have a full turn villain arc and I'd surrender my personhood to try to restore her, or burn to ash trying.
>>91873293Collabs with a male. Simple ass
>>91876919You know why - they crave attention.>since [a] few people asked me in dmsMotherfucker has virtually no engagement on Twitter before these tweets, no one asked him shit.
>>91876919the internet is an airport
>>91873675>>91873849I'll be honest. Her sense of humor ended up burning me out...Once you start to realize that she'll repeat the same joke 3 times and laugh hysterically about it each time she does it, and it just kind of gets to you. I dunno
>>91877829That's fine too. We all watch these people because they bring us entertainment in their content or their community. If for whatever reason it's not keeping you hooked anymore, you should just leave until something else hooks you or else you'll end up just hating everything.
>>91876108Like what? Riot is a criminal and highly unethical company, so is advertising their game on stream criminal and highly unethical by proxy?
>>91873293Understandable. Only subhumans play LoL after what Pendragon did to DoTA and there is a DoTA player among HoloEN, too…
have her leave forever, no returning, no big redebut... just having her leave forever. that'd make me stop.
>>91873293This is Larp right? Do people like this really exist?
>>91876919Attention from either the fanbase or their oshi. It's a desperate cry for intervention or help.
>>91878080Yeah and if I've learned anything, the line between oshi and anti is a thin one
>>91876761honestly, based. fuck moba cancer
>>91878410(me) Forgot to add that it's also a form of emotional manipulation, like how abusive partners would threaten to kill themselves if you didn't do everything they told you to do.
>>91873293going completely woke
>>91877111>Which assfaggot redeemed your card, saar?
>>91873293when she goes (or fans makes her take) the mommy/daddy path, I liked mori when she was an awkward but cool bro 'hey its your boy mori', but I dislike her dad persona.
>>91878492>its le pervert narcissist tierShut up woman.
>>91873293
I think harassing a coworker into a suicide attempt would be a good line to draw but even that is not enough to putt nijisisters off elira.
League of Legends hate is greatly exaggerated. The only real problem is that it's a somewhat addictive game but otherwise it's not different from any other popular online game.
>>91873293I cannot imagine getting so mad that a VTuber played a game (no matter how horrendous the game or it's community is) that you drop them forever. That sounds like legitimate mental illness
>>91878124There are big game companies that collaborate with the American and Russian governments bruh.
>>91879414Riot is owned by the Chinese government (Tencent bought them out in 2011), and that's not even their biggest issue.
>>91876919>>91877700>>91877708>>91878410Retards. It's to express frustration. It's a normal behavior. He can't change her so the least he can do is explain why he's leaving. Leaving silently is a retarded move because then the chuuba would never know what she did wrong.
Even if my oshi did something to break my heart, I wouldn't be spiteful of her and I definitely wouldn't post about it in a public social media site...
>>91873293LoL? It's not like it was a male collab. If my oshi does a male collab I'm never watching her again.
>>91879757That's because you're a spineless faggot with no principles. You should tell her why you are leaving and never coming back.
>>91879757Except your oshi wants you to post publicly and engage with other fanbase members.
>>91876354>t. shit region
>>91879636So a government that's nowhere near as bad as the Russians or the Americans.
>>91873293If she collabs with males. I might forgive it if it's company mandated but 1-1 is a total deal breaker.
>>91873293My oshi is pretty intolerable on her own.Thankfully the majority of her streams are collabs. If she stopped doing those I'd definitely stop watching.
>>91879837If your principles involve chimping out over a innocuous game, you might just be autistic beyond assistance. I’d be glad if you left.
>>91879645You're an attention seeking faggot. She wouldn't know "what she's done wrong" because she wouldn't even notice him gone - nor would anyone else judging by his past twitter interactions.
>>91879921
>>91879645lol okay HokanLOL
engaging with drama in any way other than the kind that is management-mandated (cucking out to palestinians)
>>91876761He's just joking around for attention. Obviously playing League of Legends isn't a big deal and most of its players are chill.
>>91880116>because she wouldn't even notice him goneYou're a naive retard if you think vtubers don't egosearch and stalk their fans' profiles.>nor would anyone else judging by his past twitter interactionsExcept he received replies before? So you're straight up wrong.
>>91880054>league of legends>innocuousKill yourself
>>91880201What's so bad about it again?
>>91873293The only VTubers I have ever actively stopped watching are ones that did something that was legitimately horrible and showed how awful of a person they are, example is the black screen stream
>>91873293The most stupid part of this is the league hate is a league player meme. These NPCs really think there is some sort of universal reason to hate LoL but they'll still play ubisoft slop or waste all their money on a gacha game.
>>91873293I would stop watching her if she displayed open contempt for her fans, but I highly doubt she would ever do that or she wouldn't be my oshi in the first place
>>91880167There is a valid point in that all the big countries do war crimes and people only make a big deal about some of them. I have never seen anyone saying that no one should play Ubisoft games because of the shit France does in Africa.
>>91873293when my entertainment needs aren't being met, I kind of just dip. I think this board cursed me as I'm trying to look for content peaks / kino entertainment so if I don't get enough of my needs being satisfied, I go. Sometimes it's not my oshi's fault or it is but I don't hold resentment unless they're rude to their audience like some corpo. Dropping FWMC, I don't hold resentment, they're funny and fun doggos but I don't speak JP so it's like... I'm not their target audience and I'm given a huge content drought every week when I just follow them which sucks.>b-but just support their dreams broI support them but when their dreams get in the way of my entertainment needs, it sucks balls. What am I supposed to chew on until the next one and how will I know it'll be kino?The search for funny streams is a curse, I could've been a clips-watcher but I know those brownies don't clip genuine good moments, so fuck em.
>>91873293KFP are mentally ill freaks
>>91873293This shit just got way funnier
>>91880198Okay Hokan, keep telling yourself that your melty is meaningful and not just a cry for attention from other KFP. Again, you're just an attention seeking faggot.
>>91880343Mentally ill.
>>91880353Yes, you are.
>>91880325hahahaha holy fuck, man. I forgot how retarded some schizo stalkers are
>>91873293Funny.>>91880343You might be a bigger schizo than the retard melting down on twitter if you think you're speaking to him.
>>91880201Yeah, it’s basically just like a live decapitation, or beating puppies to death. What’s wrong with you?
>>91879946No matter how much you simp for the CCP, you won't get further up in line to suck Xi's cock. Wait your turn like the rest of your subhuman buddies
>>91873293When they only ply flavor of the months, which are most of them actually.
>>91880408>oshi [the] girl you want to support>drop your oshi if she plays a boring autist gamekek
>>91880493Not an argument.
>>91880221I can tell you don't play MOBAs (neither do I, but I understand how dangerous LoL is). One day, Riot will come for your favorite multiplayer game. They start by blatantly stealing everything good about the game (they did even worse during the creation of LoL but that's because the original target was a mod). Then they'll simplify the gameplay to appeal to braindead retards, and hire artists to design characters and models that maximize dopamine hits for porn-addicted zoomers. They will hire psychologists to manipulate the matchmaking system to maximize "player engagement" and keep you playing for as long as possible. If you act "toxic" or say the wrong words in chat, their "player behavior" team will give you a permanent hardware ban. 50% of the population of the original game drops overnight. Riot continues to grow and funnels billions to Tencent and the CCP.
If her male friends that she pretended she stopped talking to started harassing her fans and she took their side.
>>91879349MOBAs like League are very prone to toxicity because the disadvantage from having a bad teammate (in attitude and/or ability) is much larger than in other genres, since the enemy team can build on that advantage. Players can be stuck in a losing game for at least 15 minutes, which can be extended if any teammate refuses to surrender.
He dropped a shit ton of money too. Why drop her now over a LoL collab
>/pol/shitI should’ve known it had nothing to do with the actual game itself.
The real problem with League of Legends is that some streamers just play League 24/7.
>>91880584*any 2 players refuse to surrender
one thing more cancerous than an assfaggots customer is some literal who fuckhead making a scene over nothing on social media like anyone gives a fuck or whatever it is matters
>>91880221nta but basically, if one person on your team is playing poorly and dies a lot, the enemy can accrue a huge money/xp advantage and steamroll the rest of your team.Thus it's not uncommon to have games where people are crying and fingerpointing.
>>91873293Hoooly based
>>91873293Would have to both drop GFE+stream at an unviewable timeslotOr just collab with a male
>>91880553wtf, you guys hate League because some of the characters are hot?Are you the same people who bitch about western games having ugly characters, or are you like two competing factions?
>>91880553>I can tell you don't play MOBAsI have played several MOBAs including League of Legends, DOTA2 and Heroes of the Storm. None of the other games are as relevant and HotS was murdered by Blizzard ages ago. League is more popular than DOTA2 because the later is way too autistic and difficult to parse, as seen in the recent Promise stream.>They will hire psychologists to manipulate the matchmaking system to maximize "player engagement" and keep you playing for as long as possibleEngagement Optimised Matchmaking is now common across most popular online games. For example, I have a Rocket League account that has a perfect 50% win rate. Team Fortress 2 didn't had any of this matchmaking shit and I played that game longer than any other game.>If you act "toxic" or say the wrong words in chat, their "player behavior" team will give you a permanent hardware ban.You cannot say racial slurs in any PC game these days. That was just common in Xbox Live and some private servers, and those days are long time.
>>91877708The Internet is the bathroom at the airport
>>91873293BASED
>>91873293holy shit, imagine dropping thousands of dollars for her and then ragequitting due to LoL of all things
>>91880523I honestly think the girls prefer niggas that simp for the company by this point, at least they won't turncoat over some insanely inane shit
>>91880974How does matchmaking help engagement?I mainly heard that the shitters tend to get matched with each other, so if you're the kind of person who quits the game when something goes wrong, you can end up in a kind of matchmaking hell where there's always someone who quits the game.
>>91879645no one gives a fuck about your little sperg out faggot
>>91881241>How does matchmaking help engagement?Apparently modern matchmaking systems get you into losing and winning streaks that are more "engaging" than just dropping players into matches where you have a 50/50 chance of winning or losing, which is (or was) the default for most games with ranked matchmaking.
>>91880943The characters aren't hot because the developers think the characters should be hot.>>91880974>League is more popular than DOTA2 because the later is way too autistic and difficult to parseYeah, proving my point. Same thing with CS and Valorant: Trading mechanical skill for ability spam to make shitters feel good and buy more skins. >Engagement Optimised Matchmaking is now common across most popular online gamesRiot pioneered this. >Team Fortress 2 didn't had any of this matchmaking shit and I played that game longer than any other gameCool, so surely you can tell the difference between say, a Valve game and a RIot game.>You cannot say racial slurs in any PC game these daysRiot pioneered this. Riot also pioneered the cancerous F2P model in the west. You know how most game studios are started by some guys in their garage, and only later become corrupted by suits? Yeah, Riot isn't like that, it was founded by two business majors who had a bright idea and capitalized on it hard. Riot is dangerous because they're competent, companies like modern Blizzard look like cartoon villains in comparison.
>>91880679ok redditfrogposter
>>91873849Gura...
>>91881421Typical /v/ermin, always trying to bring up elitist talk points while never playing any games.
>>91873293Not being into Black guys
>>91881421CS2 (formerly CS:GO) has an entire gambling economy built into the game. Valve is a better company than most but they aren't perfectly innocent angels either. Meanwhile Activision Blizzard had Bobby Kotick as its CEO, who was one of the most evil people in the gaming industry, and one of its chiefs was Frances Townsend who literally worked at Abu Ghraib. Now they are part of Microsoft, a company that's a military contractor that works directly with the Pentagon.
>>91876761based, fuck assfaggots
>>91880974>You cannot say racial slurs in any PC game these days.Sure you can. Just make sure they're only against crackers
>>91881421>I want to say racial slurs, play a boring match of creep deny, and pay for the base game.wtf
>>91881677It's not elitist to say that Riot's games manipulate you into thinking you're skilled at the game. That's how everything works with Riot, both inside and outside the game, it's always some form of gaslighting and psychological manipulation. The company is run by psychopaths. This was more evident in the early days, when they pulled dirty tricks like shutting down the most popular DotA forum and trying to ban e-sports organizations from having teams that played other MOBAs. >>91881793>Meanwhile Activision Blizzard had Bobby Kotick as its CEO, who was one of the most evil people in the gaming industry, and one of its chiefs was Frances Townsend who literally worked at Abu GhraibYou missed the point. Blizzard and Riot are both terrible companies, but Blizzard is incompetent and everything they try these days is a flop, so they're harmless. Riot has been far too successful for me to be comfortable with it.
>>91873293he's getting clowned by indiesit's over
>>91880553You forgot the no fun allowed even in the normal queue where they will ban you if don't play "meta" compliant builds and characters and the Bans they gave for saying gg wp at the end of a game before killing the all chat because of muh toxicity. League player are also retards who pays egirls to play with them.
>>91878957that's the crazy part. until the doki controversy none of the sisters paid any attention to elira to the point they couldn't even list of surface level observations about her. they aren't her fans. she did however drive off a large chunk of her real fans with that stunt. I was one of them.
>>91873293I left my oshi because she had a BPD meltdown, changed her entire personality and friendzoned a fanbase that she was previously parasocial towards and is now a giant leech on her own company.
>>91882105You’re automatically claiming that DotA just has higher skilled players, but neglecting to mention things like the era of dagon couriers and how most the playerbase thinks they can play Invoker but they whiff everything. I bet you use legacy keys to feel superior, rather than just from muscle memory.
>>91882273t. picrel?
>>91873293I can't think of anything remotely realistic. She's too genuine and too kind to do anything bad.
>>91873293holy mental illness
>>91882273Mikeneko?
>>91873293Generally anything that is antithetical to being an idol. Male collabing, saying anything anti-parasocial/gfe/unicorn, or becoming complacent and lazy. No gura or mumei bullshit.
>>91873293What a weird thing to sperg out about. I drop vtubers because I get bored, and the only time I harddropped my oshi was because of drastic changes in content and overall vibe after she switched corpos.
>>91873293Thanking every damn donation, and singing HBD every stream up to fucking 5 times
>>91876919Because (wannabe) celebrity fans only do it for attention in the first place and thus are the cancer of every fan community.
>>91873293More than the occasional male collab is the only thing I know for sure. Wouldn't like it if I had to use twitch either, but would probably begrudgingly do it if it was my oshi, though there's also a chance I would watch less and less with time and eventually quit, I dunno.
>>91876919It's his account and that's what he wants on it
>>91873293I stopped watching my oshi because of their fanbase.Ironically another one of my oshi had one of the greatest fanbases I was ever part of but she quit streaming entirely.
>>91873293Unironically, also lol. But she would need to play it a lot. I can skip content i don't like, but if that becomes part of her normal content, well, there's nothing to see really
>>91873293My oshi is already dead, killed by youtube's hacker. Im glad i wasnt that obsessed with her, or else i would have probably cut myself from the withdrawals.
>>91880553>Then they'll simplify the gameplay to appeal to braindead retards, and hire artists to design characters and models that maximize dopamine hits for porn-addicted zoomers. They will hire psychologists to manipulate the matchmaking system to maximize "player engagement" and keep you playing for as long as possible.I don't care for games that want to make their players into porn addicted gambling addicts but League of Legends isn't worse than the average waifu gacha game. They are designed for psychological manipulation and it's funny that some guys hate that specific game when it's a rampant issue throughout the modern game industry. The gamers who hate League of Legends but defend Fate Grand Order are clueless.
>>91876761at least he didn't blame Gigi for starting this arc and turned into a Gigi anti unlike other schizos
>>91883879>League of Legends isn't worse than the average waifu gacha gameI mean sure but I don't play those either. The difference is that Riot Games is an ambitious western company that wants to dominate online gaming. I believe one of the founders said that the goal was for LoL to become as ubiquitous as basketball, a sport where they own all the courts. I can ignore gacha games, but it's harder to ignore LoL being the most popular multiplayer game in the world. >when it's a rampant issue throughout the modern game industryRiot started it. There wasn't even a category for "free to play" games on Steam before 2011. They brought all that shit here from Asia.
>>91873293>Start fleshposting enough for it to consistently leak into regular streams more than being a vtuber (Giri is guilty of this but I don't oshi her)>Putting less effort into their job to the point where they start breaking promises and not putting out shit as simple as membership wallpapers on time (Magni is guilty of this so I never followed him when he graduated out of sheer disappointment)
>>91880325This is bsky coded
>>91874172actually it's because dude's planning a re-debut next year
>>91873849I like the idea of projects but when they pull my oshi away from streaming I seriously miss her and get to wishing she would drop it all and just stream.
>>91877829That's me with almost every vtuber, even if I find them entertainingAfter several months of watching the same person, every stream of them became very samey and I could start to predict their reactions and their speech patternsSo I rotate several vtubers I find entertaining every 3-4 months
>>91873293This isn't even a valid reason, just skip that stream. Mental illness.
>>91873293Only real reason would be if they turned on their fans or drastically changed their content toward a direction I didn't like.
>>91876302>I find it odd so many people still subscribe to her and buy her merch when she's so distant.Gura's clearly not in the best state. There's not a lot you can do as a chumbud, but keeping the membership is at least for me a way of showing that we still care for her and want her to get better. If it never happens then it never happens, but I don't think the added stress of "deliver the funny content or we walk" would increase the chances.
>>91876031This sounds like a reasonable comment until you replace League with 3 hours of strange dick mine
>>91880523and she didn't even enjoy that collab herself is the funniest part there was no reason to think she's going to turn into a LOL streamer next
>>91880309BasedGOD. Out of pure curiosity– who do currently watch?
>>91882142why is Fanslytuber inserting herself into this?
I actually don't watch much of my kami oshi anymore I just kinda passively root for her...
>>91873293ex gachi, got cucked multiple times by her but still didn't leave, the thing that made me finally leave after years of bullshit was her showing contempt for her fanbase, seems that is the line that can't be crossed for me
gomenne sempai <3
Constant breaks, low interaction with chat, poor game choices and whatever the fuck counts as the black screen stream.
>>91873849ironic that a fagoon would say that. doki has safest slop streams of anyone, it's the same shit over and over. begging a bunch of WHOs to do some collab every few months doesn't make up for it
>>91886284
>>91886397uhhh...an ugly troon "dancing" on a $5 vrchat stage is supposed to mean what, exactly?
>>91873849amazing because this is the opposite of what i want, nothing beats comfy streams for me
>>91873293I don't know, I've gotten annoyed at her for playing modern slop and going heavy into that retarded "e-sport" cringefest, stopping watching until it was over for good, but after that I came back and watched her again normally, no issues whatsoever, even watched her play that slop against other holomem no issues.
>>91886119Elira?
>>91873293I don't know at this point really. I found her gram where she posts stupid liberal opinions and I still adore her
>>91884483I dont think hes coming back anon
>>91886557>does her own thing>"SAFE SLOP" >does new thing outside of her comfort zone if she isn't good at it >"IT DOESN'T COUNT" Surely you've gotta get tired of this at some point. Antis need to step it up, you're not even entertaining to read anymore.
>>91885889>showing contempt for her fanbase, seems that is the line that can't be crossed for meThat doesn't sit right with me either. Even if probably most vtuber fans are some form of loser or another, having it said out loud irreversibly changes the feel of the whole thing to soft-findom. Unless the fanbase is being particularly insufferable or retarded and deserves it.
>>91887141That's because all you want is validation for acting like schizo and she still provides that. You never gave a fuck about her content.
>>91873293When I started dreading the now streaming notification more than I looked forward to it
>>91874387She raped Pekora.
>>91887377right, it kind of permanently sours all future correspondence with the streamer afterwards towards their fanbase
>>91873293I have been with her for over 15 years.The day I drop her is the day she stops singing, which will probably be the day she drops dead.
>>91887548>You never gave a fuck about her content.How were you even able to land on this notion from the one sentence I wrote here? >>91887141Do you even know my talented oshi?
>>91887377honestly this, it's one thing if you watch occasionally but I can't imagine seriously supporting a vtuber with money for dono's, subs, merch, whatever and then she's just making a joke out of her fanbases after you do that
>>91887857*fanbaseI'm drunk and on mobile sorry
>>91873293Completely based.
>>91887826You are very easy to spot, schizochama, hence why I know you are and who is your oshi. Mentioning her libtard instagram just confirms it.
>>91873293BF
>>91888106How did you land on the notion that I don't like her content then? Are you sure you aren't mistaking me for someone else?
>>91873293Shifting their content to primarily react Andy garbage
>>91876761Sounds like his "from experience" is either his wife leaving him, his family being murdered by a league player or his dog pissing on his computer whenever he played it himself
>>91873293It's a shame to see KFP crack like that but that's eggactly what that game does to people.
>>91877708What does that mean?
>>91888274Because you were nowhere to be seen when she streamed normally, but the moment she does something "le unhinged" on twitter you immediately show up proclaiming your love.Also getting into constant arguments here every time someone complains about her changing her persona. Either you are fucking blind or you legitimately don't care what she is doing as long as you get to claim "she is just like me frfr". It's the most bizarre way to oshi someone I've ever seen.
>>91888726everyone feels the need to announce their departure
>>91884252Riot didn't start either gambling or porn addition they merely exploited gamers with slightly better tactics. The other game developers quickly copied what they did and I simply don't understand why they get so much hate. There are guys who have spent thousands on Fate Grand Order waifus so there is a wide variety of scammers in the market.
>>91873807tpbp
>>91888793sorry but you really mistook me for someone elseI do not argue with anyone here and my oshi hasn't changed her persona at all. She has been the same girl since debuting this year and she became my oshi around this April.
>>91873807As an actually autistic person, this is not autism. This is just an incredibly stupid snowflake. If your oshi playing one game you don't like is all it takes for you to abandon them, then you're not a real fan. Simple as that.
>>91873849The content is not really what matters to me. It's the personality. My oshi can change her content in any way she wants as many times as she wants and it will still be entertaining because of her charming personality. A charming personality can make anything fun and entertaining.
>>91880553>say the wrong words in chat, their "player behavior" team will give you a permanent hardware ban.>>91882164>gg wp at the end of a game before killing the all chat because of muh toxicity.>>91880974>You cannot say racial slurs in any PC game these days.None of this is a problem if you just play older games with dedicated servers, or modded Java Minecraft which is an older game that's gotten a few updates.If you can't control your tongue and need to have heated gamer moments, play something like Xonotic or whatever and host your own degenerate server with your own money.All that shit with bans is not even from the 2010s, we were dealing with PunkBuster shittery in 2004.
>>91887312reading comprehension? I specifically stated that doing one dogshit event once in awhile hardly makes up for her day to day garbage quality
>>91873293I told her that she was my kamioshi and i did not like her response or lack of, after waiting a year because i wanted to be sure about it and not be like the fans who say "omg i luv ur my oshi" and then they are nowhere to be seen a month after debut, so i waited the year and i was really invested into her, watching all of the streams live and not leaving VODs unwatched if i missed it live, some donations here and there and replying to most of their tweets. Yeah i'm just a retard of many one with the crowd, i was not expecting a crazy reaction like "omg im ur kamioshi let me suck your dick Anon-chama" or something like that but after seeing her reactions towards getting oshi/kamiohi confessions throught out the year i was just expecting something you know.I'm sure that wasnt personal, but like it made me feel like to her i wasnt worth spending any extra words on me.maybe i shoud have waited more.>that wasnt personal and im blowing it out proportion probablyYeah whatever may have been i dont really care at this point i just wanted to get this off my chest.even if im a menhera at least i did not have a melty like OP..
>it felt like a betrayalit's a miracle these people can function at all
>>91873293Of all the stupid shit Kiara has done in her retarded career playing lol was the breaking point? weird but ok at least he is free from watching her.
>>91873293Her content gets so stale that the draw that made me watch her has faded away.Boyfriend
>>91890912>BoyfriendYeah me.
>>91873293Normally I'd call fags like this schizos, but league is shit and his response is justified.
I've been watching vtubers for 10 months and don't have an oshi. How do you know when you do?
>>91873293Hokan was really weird for this. I first thought he was joking but then he doubled down on it.Anyway, I'd stop watching my oshi if she'd start boring me. Unlikely thing to happen, but I'm not gonna waste my time and force myself to watch if it ever gets to that.
>>91891257It's just a fancy way of saying your favorite.
>>91873293I did quit the one person that was close to being my oshi.I didn't like the people she surrounded herself with. The mods made chatting a hostile environment when they actually moderated, her colab partners don't have that on-screen chemistry that made we want to watch those streams, the vibes she started giving off felt more like interacting with chat was a chore. Things just overall felt off.
>>91873293>What would you make quit watching your oshi?If she collabs with a homo, I’ll never look back and will move to another chuuba
>>91891327>>91874172Is hokan someone known or important?
>>91891660No one important. Just a serial whiner.
>>91873293getting intentionally cuckedt. quit watching my oshi
The same thing most people would quit over, trust being broken in an irreparable way. Like most relationships, frankly.
>KFPiss rejoins Ruffians as the most shittiest fanbasesRoru.
>>91892130But he's not KFP anymore so he isn't a KFP.
>>91873293Doing a male collab or saying anything pro-tranny
>>91889303Eh. My former oshi got into a GTARP arc and as much as I thought I could just skip it, now over 75% of her content is the GTARP and the stuff that isnt GTARP is her talking about the GTARP with the friends she made in the GTARP. Its been three years now.
>>91873293Based, LoL is dogshit.
>>91873293homo or niji collab
>>91891257When you watch someone new and within less than a minute into the stream you get hit with a thought "This is the cutest woman on planet Earth"
>>91892162>if you publicly denounce your oshi you can anti her enemies without tarnishing her reputationI see it now, to fight evil I must become evil.
>>91892270Well, there is a difference between one bad stream and entire channel changing direction.t. dropped Botan after SF spam, wasn't really my oshi though
>>91873293If he said he was a she.
>>91876761>I loved her...kek so overdramatic. They think they're the main character in an anime or something
>>91873293Honestly if she got married it would hurt too much. I'd still adore her but I don't think I could handle it since I'm literally in love with her.
You know, everyone always thought he was an "ironic schizo" all this time and that his weird hate posts were just satire, but I think this can serve as a good lesson.
>>91891660No, but he superchats a lot so I remember hearing his name during like every SC reading.
>>91879645Going schizo about it, makes anyone think it is a good thing. Good riddance and don't come back.>I'm leaving, because I'm retarded.Would have sufficed.
>>91873293Can't really imagine. It's their personality, habits and experiences they go through that make people watch them in the first place.I don't need to relate or even agree with them, finding it interesting/entertaining is enough. I'd be fine with a public husband which seems to be the epitome of a problem to people.
>>91887550that Pekora?me
>schizo throws a fit>fans show more love>Kiara makes a backhanded, based comment>schizo seething and maldingHow silly. Hope he kills himself.
>>91873293>The average Vtuber fan
>>91876031Faggot to faggot communication
>>91880309Yeah same. I still watch FWMC and love them when I see them, but I dropped membership, don't supa, and don't pay close attention to their schedule. I treat them like any other holomem now, putting them on if our schedules line up. I really miss the first few months when they were on top of their game
wtf is assfaggotsis this a /v/ raid?
>>91896466From what i gathered from scouring the archives:>ASSFAGGOTS stands for Aeon Of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two SidesSo, probably, yes, this is a /v/ raid.
>>91884559this. people in this sphere love to moan about loyalty this and oshi that when variety is what keep you from burning out of love entirely.It is not a shame to not watch your supposed oshi every chance you get. if they tired you out, retreat, try something new and back in again when you feel like it.
>>91873293Pandering to male e-celebs, joining VCR events, thankfully she'd never do anything of the sort though
>>91885033>This sounds like a reasonable comment until you realize that comparing league to 3 hours of stranger dick is mentally ill.Obviously League is way worse.
>>91877829Nijilies
>>91873293Is this guy hated among KFP or something? KFP here and a few KFP outside of here seem to be happy that he's fucking off.
>>91898074>Is this guy hated among KFP or something?Massive controlfag who hates when she stays up late for anything instead of going to sleep, hates when she collabs with other people to the point of constantly shitting on almost all of her collab partners both EN and JP members alike, and wants her to stream exclusively solo. Seethed when she streamed in late NA hours because of her being in Japan to the point of shit talking about her in prechat for "betraying her fans", etc. Over all, just a massive schizo, and I don't think I've heard him say anything positive about any holo member, let alone Kiara, where it's constant controlfagging. Honestly a good thing that he's fucking off, one of the few situations where severe autistic hatred towards something pays off. Also made an ass out of himself since it seems people are already turning his post into a copypasta but replacing Kiara's name and league with other things.
>>91873293This person brings shame to their oshi mark
>>91887755>15 yearsI....I kneelI have only known her for 8 but the day she leaves is the day I quit vtubing as a wholeuntil then I will enjoy her music and her cute autistic antics
>>91886763Not my oshi, but holy crap I described her situation perfectly, lmao
>>91873293 >kiara>reasonable OF ALL PEOPLE
>>91897923Starting to notice Doki is the new Coco, you couldn't dislike Kson or else you where a zhang
>>91898074Nigger threw a melty over Kiara joining 7D2D. He was always a massive schizo trying to groom her into being a solo streamer.
>>91899282It's true in both casesOnly soulless bugs dislike Kson and only degenerate nijisisters hate Doki
>>91885889who was that?
>>91874387This, she'd have to basically do a 180 on everything she stands
>>91899426Ame
>>91899498F
>>91873293got sick of their attitude over the course of a year, death of a thousand tiny cuts. then they posted something in menshi that was just a wakeup call that they had grown to become the exact opposite of the person i admired and followed at debut and the last straw. i kind of get where this guy is coming from in having a 'last straw' that is seemingly inoffensive, but i wouldn't be retarded on main with my username like this.
>>91898290I could understand some schizo acting like a jealous boyfriend over a random 2view, but Kiara?????
>>91884559>>91897269That's because you have the mentality of a twitch viewer.You are hopping content, while they support an oshi. It's not the same thing.
I'll never forgot the night KFP ruined a comfy IRyS thread over some piss pants. Glad to see schizo is the norm for them.
>>91873293if she dropped Nier Automata
>>91873293If she actually had sex with me I think the magic would wear off.
>>91900927Based joseph
>>91900927Based
>>91876761Kek. I went to check out his Twitter. He’s Polish. Explains everything.
>>91873293>dropping a chuuba over LoLHonestly based as fuck, good on the guy for not betraying his own principles.
>>91873293 right-wing politics probably. i watch haha cute anime girls to get away from that shit
>>91873293my oshi already did the worst thing imaginable and i'm still here, so nothing
>>91873849Don't you subhumans ever get tired of this shit? Go watch your worthless niji whores before their eventual termination for not sucking luca's cock
>>91873293If I get no interactions. Read a message, like a comment, anything, just show me I reached you and I am real, not a number.
>>91891257Your oshi is the stream you prioritise watching even if 15 others are streaming their pov too.
>dropping a chuuba over LoLoh, yeah I remember being in 8th grade and thinking that opinions about video games were life and death decisions, glad I'm an adult now though
>>91873849Pic unrelated I assume? Doki is the same as she's been 4 years ago: garbage at any competitive game to the point of needing to be carried by better players, and leeching from much bigger streamers.
>>91873293content / style change / not streamingbut i wouldn't be a retard and sperg out about it on main
>>91873293I would do the same but only because LoL is incredibly boring to watch. I've unsubbed to plenty of tubers that start streaming a game I'm not interested in 90% of the time.
>>91873293realistically, i can't think of anythingtheoretically, making up random bullshitery to get mad at isn't worth my time >>91891257i didn't have an oshi for like 2 years or something. when i did, it was simply something undeniable. it also wasn't someone expected or like a "love at first sight" or anything. random curiosity led me somewhere and then it felt like home.
>>91887550GoodShe deserved it
>>91901472...What? If anything that describes what happened to NijiEN. Most of them are just coasting.Doki's the exact opposite.
>>91890785You said it yourself, people say they are their "oshi" or "kamioshi" or whatever all the time, so one more guy doing it doesn't make you special, in fact it devalues you further.That said, expecting recognition from a chuuba is retarded all the same, unless you put in some serious money, witty or multimedia content they ain't gonna give you the time of the day.
>>91873293I’m not a unicorn, but I think the only thing that would make me drop my oshi is if she had a boyfriend, she would actually talk about him and he would appear on stream sometimes
>>91884483>>91887260he's a cuck. he will come back (with a new account)
>>91898290How come Kiara attracts the weirdest kind of schizos out there, has to be a talent at this point.
Nothing would make me drop my oshi
>>91902473Mentally ill people attract mentally ill people
>>91899385I ain't a nijisister, just a proud American. In fact I hate all vtubers. It's all some Chinese psyop so we wouldn't attack them.
>>91873293Repeat israel's lies about the Holocaust being real.
>>91873293>Only streamers are allowed to have boundaries
>>91873293why do fans feel the need to announce they're leaving? do they like, expect their oshis to stop them or something?
I'd quit watching my oshi if she quit hololive.
>>91873293Nothing although I usually dip out of any streams if they're incompatible with my tastes or schedulet. stopped watching Gigi because of timezones which was ironically around when she started playing LoL>>91876919Attention>>91900927Based Automatapilled unitygod prime
>>91900171fair. maybe I'm just not in this space long enough to find my oshi so I can't fully understand.
>>91903106Based and same
>>91884371You should check him out now to see how much effort he puts in these days.
>did a homo collab>revealed she was in a relationship It's that simple. I want CGDCT. If she stopped doing that, I would stop watching her.
>>91873293>ditching a chuuba for playing LoLBasedI do the same thingFuck LoLFuck idolshitFuck FOTM
I’d quit watching my oshi if she quit her corpo She already has discipline and schedule issues now, so her as an indie would be a painful experience
>>91902997It made a lot more sense when communities were more tight knit. You notice someone hasn't signed in for a while so you asked them where they were. You'd do this to just let people know you're leaving.Nowadays with the internet being an amorphous large blob it makes less sense but the people saying that still feel like they're part of a community and have to let people know.As for the topic I dropped Hololive for like a year because I got timed out of a chat and I'm not going to stick around where I don't feel welcome.
>>91900927so long as people like this exist, vtubers might as well be coal miners. it's always funny to me that peko and miko, arguably two of the most successful people in this scene, are qualified to work in childcare.
>>91904766how tf did you get timed out?
>>91884483respect for taking responsibility for his weird actions
>>91873293What do you do when you're mad at your oshi ordinarily?91874439I think that's why I haven't been enjoying my own oshi lately. For me the time to drop her would be some indication that she doesn't like me anymore. In terms of going full schizo anti it would be if she told me directly or indirectly to f off or something.
>>91904945That was my reaction to it too. It was three years ago or so when Council was new and I think that's why I got so pissed about it.Mostly because if you try to type anything and send it their word filters will let you send the message but it just won't post which means someone had to manually piss in my cheerios that day.I remember rage unsubbing but they had a be subbed for 7 days to chat or something so I just unsubbed to all Holos and said fuck it.Of course YouTube kept recommending the ones I liked and were oblivious to the entire thing so I gradually fell back into the rabbit hole but if I'm not malicious. If I type a message it's because I want it seen and read.
>>91905197>>91874439Apologies, fixing my completely avoidable tagging error.
>>91873293They'd have to do something actively hateful towards their fanbaseKronii is the only chuuba I've quit completely
>>91873293I'd drop her in an instant if she betrayed Yagoo like others in her gen
>>91873293Love duet with a homo and being told to 'improve yourself' when I complain about it.
>>91905698you will always be a piece of shit on the side of the road and your seething just makes you more pathetic.
>>91902923or standards
>>91873293Nothing other than death
>>91905904Cope....Is what I'd say if Ame were my oshi. I only said 'love duet' because I thought that'd be the main thing /vt/ hates their oshi doing and I know there's some who are 'still' not over it.
>>91902765sure thing sister
>>91906013Yua...
>>91887550That makes her relatable, as I would also rape Pekora
>>91905698Pathetic subhuman
>>91873293I made the decision to oshi hen last year from my oshi. Over the year before she had slowly changed everything about her - the personality she showed on stream, how she treated us, the content she did, even the voice she used - and after nuking every last bit of her content in order to rebrand, it felt like she was someone else and that I was left behind thinking about who she used to be.I don't regret it, I'm honestly a lot happier where I am now. She's funny, cute, has better community interaction and does the kind of content that I'm interested in. Also the whole not having regret of wanting to support something that I grew to dislike part.
>>91874936hm yes I will redeem on this shithole post
>>91873293I was really taken aback by FWMV's pledge during their debut. I had become disillusioned with Hololive/vtubers for a while and was about to check out when they came out. Needless to say I became a day 1 member, kept up with all their streams, just went full send on them. But then they did the whole JP arc, all the shilling, the begging for views, the canceling streams, the asmr shit, everything started to add up. And I've started to see that their whole persona was a facade and yeah every vtuber does the same at some level but even the most professional idol vtubers tend to chill out for a bit and show more of their true selves. FWMC has been an exception, everything they do is strictly calculated for growth, there's no warm, there's no love for their community or fans. We were just numbers, a means to an end.So yeah, I quit.
>>91905433>They'd have to do something actively hateful towards their fanbase>Kronii is the only chuuba I've quit completelyI will defend Kronii by pointing out the obvious fact that she really doesn't want to be a lewd vtuber. Cover did force an embarrassing design on her and the huge jiggling boobs pushed her into a type of content that Kronii would have never chosen if she was an indie vtuber. A garbage situation and it's unfair to blame her for that when getting on the good side of management was absolutely needed unless she wanted to deal with boob jokes for the next 10 years.
>>91873293I always knew that Hokan faggot was a schizo timebomb waiting to happen, glad to be finally be validated by that and see the whiny fucker implode and fuck offif he even tries to pathetically come crawling back and ingratiate himself to KFP again afterwards the rest of the should just bully the fuck out of him until he leaves for good. Every single fanbase is ruined by whiny entitled attention-seeking narcissistic faggots like this.>>91879645>>91880198kill yourself Hokan you histrionic neurotic freak, nobody likes fundamentally unlovable self-absorbed people like you
>>91909175Kys nijinigger
>>91909302> nobody likes fundamentally unlovable self-absorbed people like youPeople love Gura though?
>>91909175It was obvious that they were calculated from the start. The problems began when they stopped caring about their viewers. JP viewers haven't seen it yet, but they probably will eventually. Also, I started to dislike Fuwawa.
