Nijisanji EN YouTube channels:https://www.youtube.com/@nijisanji_en/channelshttps://www.youtube.com/@petragurin/channelsTwitter:https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_Worldhttps://twitter.com/i/lists/1415262975435231235LazuLight:https://twitter.com/EliraPendorahttps://twitter.com/FinanaRyuguOBSYDIA:https://twitter.com/Rosemi_Lovelockhttps://twitter.com/Petra_GurinEthyria:https://twitter.com/MillieParfaithttps://twitter.com/EnnaAlouettehttps://twitter.com/ReimuEndouLuxiem:https://twitter.com/Luca_Kaneshirohttps://twitter.com/Shu_Yaminohttps://twitter.com/Ike_Evelandhttps://twitter.com/Vox_AkumaNoctyx:https://twitter.com/Sonny_Briskohttps://twitter.com/Uki_Violetahttps://twitter.com/Alban_Knoxhttps://twitter.com/Fulgur_OvidILUNA:https://twitter.com/MariaMari0nettehttps://twitter.com/AiaAmarehttps://twitter.com/AsterArcadiahttps://twitter.com/ScarleYonagunihttps://twitter.com/RenZott0XSOLEIL:https://twitter.com/D_Dropscythehttps://twitter.com/MelocoKyoranhttps://twitter.com/KotokaTorahimehttps://twitter.com/Ver_VermillionKrisis:https://twitter.com/VezaliusBandagehttps://twitter.com/Tyrant_Vantahttps://twitter.com/YuQWilsonTTT:https://twitter.com/ClaudeClawmarkDenauth:https://twitter.com/RyomaBarrenworthttps://twitter.com/KlaraCharmwoodhttps://twitter.com/TwistyAmanozakoTeamup schedule for Nijisanji EN:https://teamup.com/kstk7egnopr3xiqj4hTo watch streams at the same time:https://niji-mado.web.app/homeGraduated Livers and Miscellaneous:https://rentry.org/zc596g28Reminder to ignore bait, shitposting, samefags, discordfags, numberfags, tribalfags, and falseflaggers.Previous thread: >>91900975
Feesh
Rosemi won by asserting toddler dominance.
wuca wuca!very emoi, very happy
I love Rosemi with all of my heart! 1st hehe
>>91908629You got your Luca battery charged up yeah?
Luxiem love. Goodnight anons
I love this Rose like you wouldn't believe!SHE WON WITH A COMPLETELY CLEAN LUIGI BOARD KILL LETS GROOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!
>>91908637>1st hehe
>>91908568da wose :D
>>91908544I know. The American one is the one who uses the mimir filename.
>>91908711i would be first if i didn't get 15 min timer...
too tired to write a proper post but otshuuuu! it was fun, i am happy. please always get along and be happy.thanks for 3 years! i'm looking forward for even more!
>>91908618HEY ARE YOU READY TO GOCAUSE YOU KNOW THE WAY TO GO
>>91908668hehe yes, but it can always be more full>>91908676goodnighty! rakushiem rabu
>>91908730It can be annoying. I timed my browser update+restart earlier to not be during a time where I want to post.
>>91908729stalker
NijiEN for this feel?
Look at this cutie
>>91908852vox
That's pee and finana mention quota for today
Rosemi has to pee already, says this has to be a world record.
>>91908894What did she say about feesh I can't watch rn
rosemi is a certified pisser
>>91908894Let's goooo I got a bingo
Rosemi wonders if she is a pisser or a peeer.
Sorry peevirgins but Rosemis taking A PISS now.Pisschads win
Wose and nova master duel collab when?
No... They taught her the more vulgar pee word...
Mr skelly laughing over her head really adds to the afk Wose.
Wose cunny TTwTT
>>91908883Vox is Diddy..?
>>91909035
Rosemi says her next songs will be more Rosemi-ish.
>>91909066Vox is Fido Dido
>>91909066We call him Mr. Diddles
does anyone have the full thing i've just got internet this past hour and i want to watch
A ROSEBUD?
>>91909159Do reps bud
>>91909159base64
>>91909159kick link last thread has vod.
I love black women
Rosemi wishes she was the flower queen with a bunch of little flowers next to her.
Twisty is built for marriage
>>91908852Rosemi
I'm so excited for krisis singing........ Day 1 is so good... Peto and Wose was my highlight... And the rosmao...
>>91909389you're still awake?
>>91909411Oh.. Yes... But I'll shower and sleep now!!! Happy I got to see Yuyu's tweet... Hehe...
>>91909502goodnighty yuqtie
I have a dream. That one day every person in this nation will control their own destiny. A nation of the truly free, dammit. A nation of action, not words, ruled by strength, not committee! Where the law changes to suit the individual, not the other way around. Where power and justice are back where they belong: in the hands of the people! Where every man is free to think - to act - for himself! FUCK all these limp-dick lawyers and chickenshit bureaucrats. FUCK this 24-hour Internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit! FUCK American pride! FUCK the media! FUCK ALL OF IT! America is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it - we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN! And from the ashes, a new America will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The weak will be purged and the strongest will thrive - free to live as they see fit, they'll make America great again!... In my new America, people will die and kill for what they BELIEVE! Not for money. not for oil! Not for what they're told is right. Every man will be free to fight his own wars!
A guy stole Rosemi's card and ran.
>>91909578It was me
rosemi can skip showering for a week and still smell good
>>91909159Base64 decode that one post, bud, you can download it!
rosemi should please play balatro
>>91909578her v-card...
Rosemi is stalking dudes on twitter.
>>91909638I'll need to smell her rosebud directly to confirm this
>>91909389I'm glad you had fun
>>91909502*CQCs you onto your bed then throws a stun grenade at a nearby kerotan and knocks you out*Good night. Have a good sleep.
It's just a really bad dlc pick. It's neither a Tekken character nor is it from a popular game.
ill always love my big sisters
NijiEN for this feel?https://files.catbox.moe/yjzr54.jpeg
>>91909793That flat girl that posted her tits (ToT)
Sonny LOVEFeesh LOVEWosemi LOVEShubert LOVEMeroco RABUOogi LOVEStream Cendrillon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7HZcCgMx3wStream Break Free https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YnDtV6YejoStream Ringo Mogire Beamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj65Wf4n4j4Stream Infinityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkl_qZnjC_EStream Bling-Bang-Bang-Bornhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYf2bf8hOoEStream We Be Unionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxdV3wlzhdc
>>91909793IS THAT PHOENIX WRIGHT!??
sleepy, goodnighty round 2
This but Sonny doing it to me.
>>91910044gn Cub.Hope you stay comfy!
Rosemi should use her holeutia more
>>91910055You're not supposed to enjoy it
>>91910044Goodnighty, sweet Lucub! Sweetest dreams!
>>91910044GN chuu
>>91909918which one the ryugal or the famillie
>>91910114>>91910115chu chu!>>91910077dont forget to ask your assistant to change your diaper old man
Rosemi says she gets to sing a song she didn't think she would be able to. It's from a franshise she likes.
>>91909186>>91909221>>91909224i checked 2 threads and cannot find a base64 link just the kick one...
>>91910228Click last threadcontrol+f kick
>>91909742>>91910077die you creep
>>91909671NANOMACHINES, SON!
>>91910304yes but i want to download it not just stream it
>>91910228Here, bud!aHR0cHM6Ly9nb2ZpbGUuaW8vZC85ZHFLR00=
Black queens make me so horny
>>91910345Personal problem
>>91909520>>91909738Chu chu>>91909742YAMERO
>>91910345IDM
>>91910475Kyaa I got kisses
I remember that tweet Sonny posted telling people to show him serval pics, I bet he's so happy to be a serval
I love Maririn......
>>91910565Sonny as Judy Hopps
>>91910676>>91910565I woulda creampied judy no cap
>>91910632What shoe size does she have?
>>91910676nick wilds luca...
>>91910676zootopia abortion comic...
>>91910947On my way to sniff Rosemi’s toes
>>91910353>>91910361>>91910499chuuuu i love you anons gn
Evil piss spirits...
>>91910358Did you know that in chess, black has a clear disadvantage? Although this disadvantage is only a fraction of a pawn, and is less visible with lower ranked players. However, a grandmaster with black will generally be "playing for a draw" while when he has white he will be "playing for the win". It's speculated that once chess is solved by computers, the "perfect game" will involve a white victory.
if I fall back asleep, send Rosemi to wake me
>>91910895I wish I was the OBGYN aborting Sonny's baby...
>>91910974Good night, bud! Sweetest dreams and enjoy the concert =w=
Why does Rosemi pee so much
>>91911146She's on coffee so her pee frequency has upgraded
Faaling asleep to Rosemi's streamI hope she doesn't raid anyone so that I don't get suddenly awakened by someone else's voice...
>>91911040Many people think that the chinese equivalent to chess is "chinese chess", however that game is a bizarre spinoff that isn't worth playing to begin with. The true chinese corollary to chess is a game called "Go". In this game, black has the first-mover advantage, which is much larger than in chess, considered to be somewhere around 5-7 territory points. In that respect, chess is actually a remarkably well-balanced game.
which liver has a tattoo irl
>>91911299ike, on his womb
Rosemi's dad is an ojisan creeping on her...
who should play drakengard
Bowling ball is too heavy for rosemi...
How has rosepapa never been bowling
Terminate Reimu Endou.
>>91911618This, my latina wife will be too busy to me in nijisanji when she’s my wife
I want Kotoka and Reimu to laugh at me when I prematurely cum
>>91911728https://files.catbox.moe/xhj6he.mp4Play this while jerking off
I'm glad I took some of your migraine away, Rosemi-sama... Sad it got to the point of heart pain, that's a sign of really needing proper rest
Rosemi-samaaaaaaaaa ToT
I sweat to god if Rosemis migraine turns outt o be a growing tumor all the shitty doctors did not notice then I will smite the unholy humans off the face of this world.
>>91911835Did she try asking for an MRI
baaaabye wife! i fell asleep in the middle of his zatsu and woke up to see he streamed for 3 hours in the end. at least it wasn't 6 i guess
>>91911835I'll help, bud
This was a foreshadowing
https://x.com/haineeko/status/1869847086591869406This Sonny clip got so popular and everyone wants to beat him up over it...
>Canadian doctorsBud...
>>91911945Why? He didn't say anything false.
when will she return
watching it again, the camera movement on Rosemi x Petra performance is so good
>>91912049The cameramen popped off in general for this
>>91911907Buds against the useless world without Rosemi.
You guys are boring today ngl
nijien fanbase for this feel?https://x.com/G4RYWithafour/status/1870165703908626698
Get a load of this feesh!
>>91912282
rosemis gay
free use of debidebi for 1 year or a one night fuck with your oshi, which would you choose?
hyped for whatever happens tonight with aster's starfish
>>91912425But doctor, debi is my oshi!
no streams what am i supposed to do while i play balatro and make shitty gens
>>91912039https://x.com/ebonybutts_/status/1870156386497376695Will we get Twisty in this outfit?
Ded thred
What a name...
>>91912425I have very potent sperm so I’ll impregnate my oshi and baby trap her from that one night
What the fuck is that name how hard do you think rosemi resisted to ban
>>91912705I stayed up for the concert took a 40 min nap went to work and finally got some free time to read the thread.....
>>91912785Its a Phasewhale
Somebody tell rosemi to call people essays next
Anyways thank you AryanCunnyRapist88 for the 50 gifted
>>91912039my mostly white girlfriend Twisty ...
>>91912750Aryancunnyrapist88
>>91911945>those qrtsAre briskadets always this mean?
>>91912961
Kotoka smells fineAll of Ike's burgers are made from imitation meatRosemi actually thought Mysta was Harada irlDoppio's channel is run by multiple people, there are no multiple personalitiesVox's dry pasta was just a 2D image he printed out, there was never any real pasta on that plateCount Scapula and Todd were psyops by NijiEN management to test reception on certain vtuber conceptsFinana isn't small irl, her house and furniture are just inexplicably 1.2x the size of normal houses and furnitureSonny's "death" in his past was done to make his debut as "Sonny" more interestingVivi was a shared delusion by Briskadets and Pomudachi and she never actually existed
>>91913051Anon stop shitting up other threads before they come here to shit up our thread in return.
>>91913046In all seriousness I know briskadets and Sonny have a kind of back and forth banter with each other and I get wanting to beat him to a pulp when he's smug but sometimes it feels like they take the bit to a tiring level... Like they'll act tsun and aggressive towards him for the littlest of things. This is kind of another example, I get that he's being pompous and weird in the clip but even as a joke some of the responses feel kind of unwarranted. I'm probably just being autistic though and it is a little funny. They're not really mean just a little too tsun sometimes
briskadets the most sensitive fanbase
Rosemi is peeing so much...
>>91912642HOLY FEESH
PLATINUM ROSEEE
Her pee must be really clear right now
3rd pee of the stream today. She can't just blame coffee for that.
What would you do if you looked into a toilet bowl of Rosemi's pee and saw your own reflection?
Rosemi said the s-and-t words
>>91913521Reminds me of pisstako’s clear pee.
That malice deck rosemi talked about in the beginning of the stream runs around 330$ for a core set fml
Rosemi’s warm pee…
>>91913592Be happy that i'm not a vampire baby
>>91913613>Siggers>TiggersUnleashed wose
>>91910827Looks like a 6 US
>>91912039Need to racemix with twisty........
https://x.com/Fuwa_Minato/status/1870076690153554309Can we get Rosemi to do this for EN please
>>91913919Hot if you're white
>>91912642Do Maria and Twisty making out
>>91913976Does half count?
>>91912642Why does ai draw all faces like that
>i impregnate twisty>baby comes out more black
>>91914042Is the other half jewish or yellow?
>>91914046i'm using a website instead of a personal setup on my computer because i refuse to use processing power on it
Imagine the sex
>>91914191im so hyped for this
>>91914191quintuple paizuri
>>91913272I'm an outlier to the fanbase since I never have those inclinations towards him so I always feel biased when I see these types of reactions because they feel TOO much even with the usual tsun/banter. Like seriously, of all the things he says, this wasn't even that egregious so I don't know why they're being so mean about it. It's the truth so they feel called out maybe? Idk
>>91914259But Sonny's flat...
Ren and Shiba collab when?
>>91914288for now
>>91914191Yeah with me
>>91914573Huff huff koto pits
>>91914583What do you mean?!
>>91914573Rape
3 whole hours of yugioh whoa. Rosemi thinks it has been a good stream. Still not finished.
>>91914191What time JST is this one?
Rosemi got a gingerbread house and will make it next week.
How was the concert last night? Being EST is suffering...
I wish rosemi can get a card sleeve sponsorship
It's been a great stream, buds. Good YGO, good zatsu, and happy for Rosemi-sama's NJU performances and the upcoming gingerbread house... Life is beautifulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzvXBFwcyek
>>91914882pregnancy increases the size of the breasts
>>91915059Watch the vod.
Rosefeesh is basically wicked
>>91915132Men can't get pregant!!
>>91914965It's 11:30 pm in est so I guess 2:30 jst
An old lady grabbed Rosemi's arm at the rollercoaster.
>>91915339
>>91915517Vaders...
>>91914104Black actually but I consider myself white
>>91915860hi twisty
>>91915514Not again...
>>91915124Rosemi rabu
The flying dinosaur instills primal fear, even if I'm not usually afraid of heights...
thoughts?
Rosemi-sama is the perfect little girl
>>91915976yes absolutely
>>91915976Finana's ass
>>91915860You have my blessing.
>>91915976Old man ass
https://x.com/momurichan/status/1869729538743452043EN for this feel?
>>91916313petra
@Vox
>>91916447PHRASING
started stretching and yawning the way ike does and honestly he is onto something
I hope Twisty is having fun during the holidays
@Sonny
Rosemi sounds like an addict..
PLUCK YOU JIMMY
>>91916553It's peak stretching, I end up pitching up when I stretch too, I feel like it adds that extra bit of tension relief... Sometimes I get a boner stretching my groin area
>>91915976Spank
Happy late Luxiem's 3rd anniversary c: have some Shu sex
>>91916869would
Nice long stream Rosemi. Hope your migraine gets better and you get some sleep.
Is it just me or has yt has been lagging
>>91916676holy fucking shit it's actually fucking here
>>91916869whoa you're alive
I got jumpscared by naked vanta on twitter again......
>>91917059it's giving me adblock error again
@wiwashttps://x.com/EliraPendora/status/1870201202559910262
>>91916676When will they make another animation
>>91917059mine too, it's been working like shit lately>>91917120same
>>91917120>>91917150Go to filters, search for quick fix and disable it
>>91917059For some reason it can't ever speed cap on Rosemi-sama's stream anymore, it always has to be at least a second delayed...
*sniff* *sniff*i-is that VTuber Perfume I smell?*sniff* *sniff*mmm yes I smell it! ROSEMI SMELL !!!! I smell Rosemi ! W-What is Rosemi doing?!?! omygosh what am I gonna do?!?! R O S E M I ! ! IS HERE! I'M FREAKING OUT SO MUCH!!!! calm down calm down and take a nice, deep breath....it smells so good! I love rosemi smell so much!!!! It makes me feel so amazing. I'm getting tingles all over from the delicious rosemiscent ! It's driving me roseCRAZY!!!!!! if u are a rosemi fan and u are reading this, I just wanted to say ... buy my perfume.I love you!
>>91916869god i want to just stuff my face between those cheeks and-
>>91917115dont worry bud you'll get used to it and soon enough you'll enjoy his crowbringer if you know what i mean heh
>>91917214Yeah it's what happened to me but I also switched to firefox and typing feels laggy too
>>91917121Startedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O5Xoss4ycw
https://files.catbox.moe/bxprfy.mp4
>>91917184Thanks! I think that fixed the adblock pop-up, it's still a bit laggy but that may just be youtube being dogshit as usual
https://x.com/Rosemi_Lovelock/status/1870030299544842464
>>91917403Where to find the option? I use ublock origin
>>91917059What I have been doing lately when it gets really bad is opening task manager, expand browser and end the task of the obvious streaming tab sucking suspicious many rescourses.Tab will crash, I reload and it runs smooth again for a long time.
>>91917339They seem cute.
>>91916851Pomu's so lucky, she got to spank Finana's cute asian ass so much...
>>91917339I'm glad Namiji is doing okay despite Kawaii's problems.
>>91917480I use ublock too, it's under ublock filters in the Included tab
>>91917101Always has been c:
>>91916793This but Ike
>>91917499This is what I do too, I kill all youtube tabs though because I have a million of them. Works like a charm (for a while)
What’s with people obsession with vtubers buying their own ips from corps
>>91917804They want Rosemi to leave Nijisanji but they don't want her to lose her personality and model. Imagine if Baseball players had to either kill themselves or change their identity every time they are traded to another team.
>>91917657Ty anon
>>91917559Pomu LOVED Finana's ass, remember when she drew a character using a distinguishable trait from every nijien member, and for Finana's trait she chose her ass?
>>91917985>don't want her to lose her personalityThe personality isn't copyrighted though. Ex-livers don't change their personalities because they changed IPs, they just reveal what their real personality is like without professional grade tard-wrangling.
Does anyone remember the song Hayato and Lize sang last night?
>>91917985Why would her personality change? Shes been the same for 5+ even during her presidency its impressive.
>>91916676Bros
is anyone watching elira rn?
>>91918241
Nice cute girls giggling stream.
>>91918374Yeah it's cute and fun and relaxed.
Rosemi…..
Have you ever had that moment where you're on a flight and your penis tucks itself? Like it's so uncomfortable
>>91918320when will this game fucking die already...
>>91918296because her pl isn't Rosemi. president is president.
>>91918509
>>91918509https://x.com/Rosemi_Lovelock/status/1870207649188397380It's real
>>91918585Anon...?
>>91918395Thanks
>>91918374i have it in the bg, was hoping elira and nami would use their military outfits with their tits out
>>91918585That's never happened to me before. Where did it tuck itself?
>>91917804I know a lot of people want it for the purpose of separating talents they like out of corporations they don't like, and I don't agree with them for that, but I do think the practice should be normalized, because it's sad when someone you've spent significant amounts of time with/as is something that is intrinsic to the person and their fans. It also opens up avenues for collabing with the people still in the company and would allow for return collab event highlights. This should be handled case by case and delicately with distinctions. My main line of reasoning is at some point people might not want to do event stuff or work under rigid corporate structures and rules and just stream as a hobby that can still make them some money from people who like them rather than just as a job. They can go full indie and redebut, but model loss and years of build up from the person ends up lost as just a relic of the past, including various costumes. Main thing that gets lost is the streaming environment and ability to collab with some people... I know I don't watch Mint as much as I did Pomu, and I dont like Vshoujo girl interactions with Matara as much as I liked Nina with NijiEN. I'd want it as a kind of retirement out, like how Pewds isn't main-lining content creation but just posts videos or streams from time to time for fun. Also for if/when a company folds let's say, decades down the line, the person keeps the rights to the vtuber persona they built up. Also so we never see a Kizuna AI skinwalker moment again. I don't want it for the reasons antis would want it, but for the welfare of the livers down the line.
french hate....
>>91917339Did their company fold or something?
>>91919187yes kawaii folded along with 10 other vtuber companies this year
>>91918959You type a lot and so initially I was thinking this would be schizo babel but I find myself agreeing with you. I think the vtubing industry as a whole uses models as a sort of bait and it scummy. >Sure you can graduate whenever you want.....but we own everything you've done and you can't tell people who you were before you joined us or talk about what you did with us....btw have you looked at rigging and model pricing lately?If the IP is being retired anyway I don't understand why you wouldn't just let someone buy out the rights outside of corporate greed
>>91918959maybe because i followed her way back i dont really see it as changing that much if she were to go back especially since shes always done her own thing or adapted well in different environments but still managed to have what makes her unique compared to some others who might be shaped more by their community or environment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rorU8jUt9Ssoooh it's the 4th member of denauth
>>91919308ryoma...twisty...
>>91918928Just kinda in itself, like kinda right in the extra skin right by the balls ya know
https://www.youtube.com/live/Xiv5jQjtEOg?si=qyLCTxOqmItxBJmPNo not the hoyoslop
https://youtu.be/zpGpu-pIVEk@Millie
>>91919424Rosemi likes this?
>>91919497read anywhere on the stream page bud
>>91918959I don't think retaining their corpo IP after going indie would change collab rules. If anything, they might be even stricter about cutting off public interactions because if the indie appears to still be part of the company to casual observers, then that means any fuckups the indie commits are associated with the company. Like imagine if Quinn was using Kyo's model while he shit-talked Aster; people who didn't know he went indie because he's still "Kyo" and still interacts with livers regularly would blame Nijisanji for his behavior. Obviously not every ex-liver is as retarded as Quinn, but there's no way Anycolor would take that risk.
>>91919260Thank you. Its not even specifically about Rosemi-sama. I'd follow her wherever she'd go, I just think it's lots of wastage for no reason. They could easily sign in some stipulations in contracts that could benefit both sides too if they did it case by case, such as allowing the vtuber to still appear in merch with a royalty cut to the vtuber. Generally when it comes to matters of IP rights, the looser the contracts are and the more free market it is, the better it is for all parties.>>91919297I agree with you. Rosemi-sama is herself and she's very resilient and independent... But for example if one day she leaves, she won't be able to interact with Anju, and that would be really sad. Things like that are why I think it'd be a net positive if it was the norm rather than exceptional circumstances. I'm happy as long as Rosemi/Pres is happy, nothing will change that short of me being killed
>>91919658That's why I specifically said there should be a distinction. Big fat wording that makes it clear that the person is now independent and it's not the company's responsibility for their actions.
>>91919424She has cute feet and tights bud
>>91919424You WILL watch your oshi play HoyoverseYou WILL watch your oshi play MouthwashingYou WILL watch your oshi play League/ValorantYou WILL watch your oshi play Marvel Rivals
>>91919424>get Rosefeesh with others>but it's HoyoFine I'll take it
>>91919748lol that doesn't shit when it comes to public perception
>>91919385Like turtling up?
>>91917804westoids are retarded
>>91919748I don't see how that would make a difference. People aren't going to check his Youtube description or Twitter bio to see if he's still "Kyo Kaneko of NijisanjiEN," they'll just see "Kyo Kaneko" and think "oh, that guy from NijiEN" regardless of any disclaimers he adds.
>>91919789better than nothing, we are so back rosefeesh bros
>>91919424Don't complain it's sponsored you want your oshi to get free money right?
>>91919810No it does. Because people (react streamers/grifters) come to bat for the indie usually in that case and end up swaying their audiences perceptions. It also puts positive PR in the company's hands that they're willing to give the IPs to their former employees, which is a rare thing in the corporate world
>>91919385Just ask your seat neighbour to unstuck it.
>>91919658yeah it's more like a player leaving a team or switching teams but they still want to wear and rep their previous jersey. it's an extra liability the company doesn't want to deal with and doesn't benefit them in any way
>>91919424When my oshi does gacha sponsorship like this if they have a unique affiliate link I download the game using their link and play through the tutorial at least in case they get paid on how many conversions they make to actual players.
>>91919894Yeah exactly but I'm cut
>>91920029I only would if it was wiwa
>>91920162>hacking your fucking foreskin off because of a minor inconvenience
>>91919260>>btw have you looked at rigging and model pricing lately?Buying out the IP would cost either the same or more unless they're severely undervaluing it.
I can't wait to see Elira's fat tits in this outfit it's so tight
>>91920311Sure but as of right now I feel like it kinda serves as a way to keep people in a company. Rebranding costs a lot
>>91920012imagine all the ex-livers stirring drama but with their liver models now, how the fuck is that not worse. you're really naive enough to believe just wearing a different skin will make dramafags stop attacking their predetermined targets? fauna hasn't even left yet and they already rearranged the narrative and dropped her. just learn to let things go and move on.
>>91920311That would bring up the question of how much is an ip worth
>>91920416Nta but I can't really imagine it'd be much different than things are now. Every liver who leaves shits on the company on their way out, what difference does the model make?
>>91920416>fauna hasn't even left yet and they already rearranged the narrative and dropped herthat shit is wild>all their girls come out and suddenly say that everything is ok behind the scenes even though some of them complained in their members or alts>now all the holo fans are shitting on Fauna
>>91919260>you can't tell people who you were before>or talk about what you did with uspractically speaking this is untrue from how much HEY DID YOU GUYS KNOW I USED TO BE IN NIJIEN? HAHAHA HAVE I HINTED AT IT THIS WEEK YET? OOPS I SLIPPED UP AGAIN, SILLY ME! that happens
>>91920012Doesn't matter. People still follow you because of who you used to be and to many of those people lean into how they used to look like with minor exceptions.>KyrioHex but with black hair.>MintHer old model was unique, her new one has to much Pomu in it.>DokiLiterally just Selen but blond and flat, her old model was at least unique to her>DoobyAme (forma de monkey)>Mike nekoPink Rushia>QuinnBootleg robocop kyoAt least the Vshojo ones took a totally different path, but they still gotta drop those little hints ya know, hey remember who I used to work for? Man did they suck, or just straight up listening to her old music like Michi did.
>>91920416The company itself looks like the bigger person in that scenario. They are saying "We trust in you and want you to be able to determine your own future with something you built up with our help." Sure they could go down that route but it would make them look ungrateful instead. The benefit of good PR would outweigh the downside in the majority of scenarios.
>>91920401That's not a refutation of my point. Buying out the IP would also cost a lot.>>91920447Well, at a minimum, it would include the price of rigging and model(s).
>>91920579That shit was crazy. Buried in like 3 days. Its crazy how tribalistic they are.And they wanna get her to 1m subs, the fuck for? She clearly wants to leave.
>>91920512if it makes no difference, why would anycolor go through the hassle of selling their IP off when it's something they've never done before. there isn't any reason to, they're not a small corpo about to go under at a moment's notice.
>>91920512>Every liver who leaves shits on the company on their way out, what difference does the model make?That's another reason that the "they should keep their IP because it's bad that they can't talk about their time in Niji" argument is retarded though, because all of them talk about it all the fucking time.
>>91920622You can hint at it sure but you can't explicitly say that you were and if there ever comes to be a time where you graduate and people aren't aware of anywhere else to follow you and the algorithm doesn't direct them to you, you can't really tell people explicitly "hey I'm such and such formerly known as such and such from x" Also if you ever wanted to use your time under said company for a job, you couldn't due to rules and regulations. I'll also say that the fact that so many people blatantly hint at who they were, kinda adds to the reasons why you shouldn't be restricted from talking about it in the first place.
>>91920695>and flatI'll never forgive her for this.
>>91920695>her new one has to much Pomu in it.Eh really? I think it’s generic as hell compared to Pomu and way too young looking
Damn hololive must be super boring downtime right now.
>>91920705Looking like the bigger man won't matter when you've killed your business model. Literally the only reason corpos exist is because of the ransom on the model. If they didn't have the ransom on the model the moment a vtuber gets big off the back of the built in fanbase of the company they just take the model and go indie. The corpo invests in all the failures and gets to keep those while not getting the profits off the most successful members anymore because they will just leave once they don't need you anymore. The entire system collapses without the model ransom because the only people it would make sense for to remain in companies are those that still have something to gain and that's the failures that don't make money. Popular vtubers making money have nothing left to gain from a company if they can take the IP with them.
>>91920958She gave herself little pointy ghost ears, basically turning her entire model into Pomu
The price of rigging and models are retarded because vtubers themselves made is retarded no vtuber need 1,000 toggles and needs to move like a piece of jello
>>91920958It looks too babyfaced but it's not that different from the previous one, the unique one was her first one and she moved from that before even joining nijien, it's still my favorite tho
>>91921050This doesn't seem to be a problem for Vshojo.
>>91920958Its the ears. OG mint didn't have the knife ears.She gets outfits soon, can't wait for one of them to be a green dress.
I have never seen someone that is into KH that isn't an obvious shotacon.
>>91920705the brand risk involved with letting someone who's no longer beholden to you run around doing whatever they want with an IP that's forever associated to your image isn't worth something as intangible as it "making you look like the bigger person".
>>91921116I still wonder what's the catch there. No way they just let people go with models they paid for, maybe the vtuber pays into it a little.
>>91920958>way too young lookingThat's a nice way of saying it looks like she has Down Syndrome.
>>91921116vshojo doesn't hire unknown nobodies for a reason
>>91921141Her name is literally Mint. Her base color is green.
>>91920732Maybe, but again right now I feel like the fact that you can't buy out the IP and have to shop around for a modeler and rigger are incentives to keep you in the company
>it’s a hood or move to sell your ip Honestly good pr doesn’t matter when the entire industry shits on whatever you do so there is no reason to do it
>>91921247Stop being a disingenuous ape.You know precisely what I'm talking about.
>>91921274The ones who leave would just whine about it being expensive on their redebut stream and people would attack us all the same
>>91920348>>91920499
>>91921116Vshojo girls all had their models before they joined Vshojo, didn't they? Except the ex-livers, I guess, but IIRC Matara commissioned her model herself rather than Vshojo paying for it. Seems like a completely different business model.
>>91921274>the entire industry shits on whatever you doThey'll probably make a fuss that the ip wasn't free or something like that
>>91921236Because they are leeches.
>>91921274A lot of the shitting stems from Niji having terrible PR in the first place
Its a corporation, not a charity. Like others have said there's just to much bullshit involved in letting people leave with their IPs, especially for such massive companies.
>>91921322Nta but what exactly are you talking about? Pomus first outfit was as generic as they come and I highly doubt she'll get a dress that looks exactly like Pomus because it wouldnt really fit her aesthetic. Honestly outside of knife ears there's not really anything similar to Pomu in Mint. Mint is very Loli coded, she's small, flat, babyfaced, she's just slightly too tall to be extremely Loli. Pomu was generic forest fairy
>Terrasanji happened not long ago>NijiMF happened just 12 hours ago>Nijifes right around the corner>The ONLY reason anyone has to stay with a company is their MODEL, there are NO other valuable resources they would stick around for
>>91921116Vshojo isn't a real vtuber company. It's just some guys project he does because he likes doing it. They're not trying to grow or make money in the way a proper business like Cover or Anycolor are. They're not trying to expand the vtuber market, they just suck up one or two tried and tested vtubers a year and that's it.
>>91921432You behaving like a snoygger but for cover is what's cringe.
>>91921236They hire people with an established audience, its a smart move.
>>91921345No wonder there's been a burst of cuckposting across multiple threads just now. God /pkg/ is a shithole
>>91921269The fact that you don't have to shop around for a modeler and rigger are incentives to join the company in the first place. Just like how not having to produce your own merch or handle other logistical issues are incentives to join and not leave. Should Nijisanji stop giving livers free trips to Japan because having to pay for your own plane tickets and book your own hotel disincentivize people from leaving?
>>91921114Her first model wasn't unique, it was basically a copy of Youmu from Touhou.
>>91920695Yes. But imagine what it looks like when someone makes those complaints after being given their IP by the same company. It's a good stopgap from letting antis hold the reigns on narratives because they can't substantiate claims that it's a "black company" for example if said "black company" is saying you're free, and it'll prevent clout-chasers from joining in just to bite the hand that fed them.>>91921050That's not entirely true. Some would want to stay for the environment, events, promotion, overhead, etc being handled by other people rather than having to find people to do all that for them or doing it themselves. There's lots of people who are willing to work for the benefits a company gives rather than raw payouts. As that other anon said, Vshoujo doesn't have that problem, so it's not impossible if it's handled properly.>>91921188The latter matters more to most people. It's why antis can control narratives about "black companies", because they see how restrictive they are and don't consider the benefits granted by the company. Grace goes a long way in determining the perceptions people hold of entities. The company itself also benefits if they do write up good severance contracts like being able to do merchandising with otherwise dead IPs, and the person who built up the vtubed persona gets money without lifting a finger
stop metaposting because whatever retarded posts you're not-replying to i had filtered and didn't know existed until five minutes ago fuck you
I will continue to post responses without replies just for (You).
>>91921274If Niji did Holo's loop hole graduation for Pomu there would be riots in the streets
>>91921548>and it'll prevent clout-chasers from joining in just to bite the hand that fed them.You really think a free model would stop that? Cause I doubt it. Not a single soul would care about Mint, Doki, Matara, Kuro or Michi if they hadn't been in Njisanji, but they still complain.
Wow that's a lotta posts for da wose. Guess you all are HUGE fans of her, right? Oh fuck it's christmas right after this weekend All the kids are at home now.
stop arguing with the retard who's obviously just here to suck off yagoo for his brilliant affiliate idea that he can't stop bringing up without prompting
>>91920695>Mintno. Not only she lacks the "v" mouth, she's actually pretty different from the fairy to the point I actually prefer her V1 model over what Ayamy did.
I think this conversation is interesting and it's better than the usual numbers or drama loops
>>91921655It really doesn't feel like the holidays.....
>>91921469Nobody is arguing that it's the only reason why you'd stick in the company, just one of the reasons you might not want to leave. Rigging and model pricing can be pricey and finding reliable people to do it is difficult. Shit, look no further than Obsydia themselves Rosemis original mama is fucking dead, selens mama was too busy half the time to do anything and Petra was the only one who was able to book her mama for every outfit. And those are people who are literally contracted to work with you.
>>91921548Vshojo isn't the same thing they take proven successful vtubers and present them with much more favorable terms because they know they're going to pay out. If they trained people from nothing and launched waves of nobodies like Nijisanji that model of only taking a little would kill the company in no time because they wouldn't make enough profits off the successful members to support the others they hire that don't blow up with all the shit Niji does for members.
>>91920768I blame False and his Aster bullshit
there's nothing i hate more than faggots who enjoy LARPing as management, go find a fucking job doing what you love if you love it so much
>>91921740Ignoring the recent drama-filled posts, the concept is okay. I do think IP buyouts make much more sense in the small corpo space where companies just vanish overnight, and dozens of good models can potentially be lost forever. For big corpos there's definitely more considerations that need to be made, but I think it can work under some circumstances.
>>91921767Kys>>91921050
>thinking any livers would want to keep their IP in the first place, knowing it would forever carry the stigma of being associated with a black companylmao
>>91921537To be fair it's not exactly like a liver can't go to Japan after they graduate and it's not exactly like the trips are solely for the liver. Oftentimes when they go to Japan they spend the entire time working with little to no free time outside of meals and maybe 1 of the days.
>>91921935Sorry I guess I didn't see them but in that anons defense he didn't explicitly say that Nijiens only incentive was the model. A lot of companies don't do big shows or anything like that you join for promo and models
>>91921952Yeah? And? They're working when they use their model/rig too. That's not solely for the liver either.
>>91921813NTA but the most recent people who got hired in vshojo have next to no previous success
>>91922093Kinda is? I mean they rig the models solely for a single liver to use for the rest of the time they're in the company.
this thread is what no streams does to a motherfucker. we need to ACCELERATE, WHERE'S THE NEXT WAVE?
I refuse to believe any of our actual anons are here talking and assume it's raiding hours and go to bed
Beautiful
I almost wish NijiAU's Japari Park was an official cover and not buried with all the other kino NMF performances... Sonny's parts are so good
>>91922222quints of truth
>>91921935It's true the only reason the business model of launching nobodies and hoping for the best works is because they milk the fuck out of the successful ones. If they wanted to retain successful members without the IP ransom they would need to take less off the members. If they take less off the successful members they won't make enough to provide support to the less successful members. Maybe a viable option would be to fire any new debut that isn't making enough money to justify their existence after a certain amount of time. Then they could remove the IP ransom, and take less money off the successful members so they stay anyway because it's worth it at that lower amount, and they wouldn't be losing money because they wouldn't need to make 3D and outfits and have managers and staff with salaries to pay in order to support vtubers that bring in next to nothing.
for what purpose does mister hoyo insist on extracting my semen so
>>91921928I agree that they make more sense in the small corpo sphere. Even if the company doesn't straight up die, if it's not well-known to begin with then the risk of reputational damage by association is much lower.
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>>91921628I never said free. You'd still need to pay for the rights to your model. But it would look a lot better for the company from the outside if they offered that as a possibility. It strengthens their position by being flexible, while making it more clear cut who is basically coming in for clout and to grift post-separation.>>91921813Okay fair on both points. For the Vshoujo point though, more recent hires are not the same power players as foundational members. There is definitely that dynamic to consider in that they utilize the more successful members profits to reinvest in less successful ones. The only thing that would be a relative deterrent would be how they price out separation contracts. For the people who like the benefits of the overhead work being taken care of by a company, such as larger sponsorship deals, event participation, more proactive approaches to merchandising, etc, they could still stay and retain all of that, whereas the people who want to leave to be more independent are already doing that but without a real benefit to the vtubers, the company or the fans. I think the idea could work with refinement personally.
>>91922173They buy a plane ticket and book a hotel room for a single liver too. You're drawing an arbitrary distinction.
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>>91922222CHECKED
>>91922294GM!!
>>91922222I just like arguing with people.
>>91922220i'm watchin wiwa
like jesus christ what did hoyo mean by thisamazing things truly are happening in china
>>91921343>>91921371Any reason why these points were ignored?
>>91921741It was 11°C earlier this week. I have zero christmas mood. Didn't even out my little plastic christmas tree up.
>>91922222Yup, I would sleep during this time to be able to stay overnight for NJU. I can bet that anyone who spent the last 5 hours dedicated to this thread won't be able to catch it.
>>91922222I'm sorry I am a regular, I just think the idea isn't without merit, if it's done properly and in good faith. I've pretty much said all I can think of, I just hate that the current environment allows black company narratives to fester and also restricts post-separation collaborations.
>>91921939Selen literally made her old model ugly like her niji model and copied all names. But then aagin she is clinically insane and should be in a ward under professional supervision instead of menheraring on the internet as anime woman.
>>91922589Allowing IP buyout isn't going to address the reasons people consider Anycolor a black company.
>>91922318>I never said free. You'd still need to pay for the rights to your model.Then they'd just complain that it wasn't free and antis would still use it as proof that Nijisanji is bad. Narratives are fueled solely by the desire to be a righteous crusader against the evil "other." It's fun, it makes people feel morally good, and it creates a shared sense of community. You can't change human nature with something as vague as "good PR," people already picked their teams.
>>91921513It's always funny reading their cope claiming its just one guy constantly shitting up the thread
>>91922586You underestimate my insomnia.
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>>91922764Hello millie
>>91922589I'm sorry but you are genuinely fucking stupid if you really think that will help stop the narrativesit doesn't matter what anycolor does at this point the western side of vtubing is so fucking tainted that there is nothing that can stop the retards making rrats
>>91922222It's always seems weird to me when people in this thread specifically freak out about people just having a normal reasonable conversation about something that is very much on topic for seemingly no other reason than they can see people are typing more than a few sentences. It's like they're so PTSD by the huge amount of actual shitposting this thread sees that they just assume anything thats more complex than "x is so cute, I love y" must be shitposting or something.
Because of rosemi I keep repeating leroy's "gotta use it" line
im still salty we didn't get 3D sonny for this year's NMF
goodbye blue women... time for blue-green woman
Just fire 1/3 of the livers and let them keep their ip it’s that easy thank me anycolor
>that voice of the girls wiwas friends raided intoI thought that was Enna before looking.
oogi solo today I'm soooo fucking ready, give it to me anycolor. wonder if he's doing choreo or just singing a slow song at the mic
>in good faith and having a reasonable conversation This implies that there was good faith and reasonable conversations to begin with
That was a fun stream with Elira's friends, they're cute I'll add them into my rotations of people to check out when none of my current oshis are on.
>>91923040Everything I say is good faith and reasonable because I'm a big brained genius unlike the rest of you.
>>91922586i crashed after my oshi's stream and just woke up... thank god it starts earlier today and it's the weekend
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>>91921343>>91921371Small companies have done it and it's not worked against them. People would start arguing in favor of companies presenting the option at all instead of appearing cold and uncaring and mechanical in their execution of the current separation dynamics.>>91922721If it's presented as an option that the company endorses, but makes clear depends on the determined value of the IP, then it couldn't be any clearer than the fact that signing up for a corporation comes with it's benefits and downsides from the start. The moralist crusaders would lose fire because the transparency is there. Companies have turned around bad PR. CDPR managed to make Cyberpunk good after years of being chastised for it's release through edgerunners, PL and and actually working on fixing the game, and Sean Murray eventually made No Man's Sky popular despite the initial backlash. It's not unrecoverable.>>91922839See above points on CDPR and Sean Murray.
Which performance do you want to watch the most?
>>91922589milgurschizo is also a regular, fuck off to numbers if you want to discuss this with other people who like roleplaying as managers for a company that doesn't write their paychecks
>>91922360They buy a plane ticket maybe 2-3x a year at most, they provide free outfits and rigging for the chuubas constantly
>>91923040If you look at the original first posts they were very reasonable and in good faith but I would t expect most people on /vt/ to be able to read
>>91923123Wait how long until it starts today? I'm going to the cinema in an hour to watch a film that will take a few hours.
Anyone else thinking about Reimu's ass right now?
>>91923282You got 6hrs
Get a load of this beautiful feesh
>>91923235How is this related to numbers lol
>>91923265I think they are just trolling and trying to derail the thread with meta shitposting there's absolutely nothing wrong with the discussion about the structure of the company and how IP works. It's completely on topic.
>>91923205uki solo 3D
>>91923399I cant tell what is trolling and what isn't at this point I'm tired
>>91923205doom & bloom
>>9192328212AM EST so in about 6 and a half hours
>>91923205doom bloom
>>91923205Medcs, nova and doombloom.
>>91923205wtf where's coom & bloom.,..
>>91923180>and it's not worked against themSmall companies also have done shit absurdly more fucked up than anything Nijisanji has ever done and they're not treated as vtuber Nazis because they don't have a target painted in their backs, it's not the same at allAnd being very honest, it wouldn't be worth it, I don't think Nova said how much she paid for her IP, but it was bad enough she had to postpone buying a house, and that's from a company where she pretty much was the only relevant person and they closed doors not even a month after, the price a corpo like Nijisanji or Hololive would ask for the IP would be simply too absurd, they invest a hell lot more of money than the small corpos, no one would be willing to pay the price or they would go on massive debt for doing it, the bad PR from charging those prices wouldn't be much worse than whatever goodwill offering the option would bring
>>91923353it's the kind of faggotry they like best
>>91923205MEDCS, i need my claude crumbs
>>91923205doom and bloom
>>91923180It's already clear that there are benefits and downsides. People just completely ignore facts that inconvenience their narrative. It's not comparable to your examples at all, it's more along the lines of those games that get caught up in culture war shit so a certain vocal minority will always complain about them.
>>91923205Doom & bloom
>>91923636My impression is that /#/ just constantly jacks off to graphs and numbers
>>91923734wow Doppio why does god let you have two small pink girls as your wives
>>91923205Aia solo and MEDCS.
>>91923282You'll be fine unless you're watching Shoah.
>>91923597The thing is as well Anycolor/Cover can't just sell the IP cheaply as an act of good will or something. They are publicly traded companies and the value of the IP they own makes up a significant chunk of the value of the company. If they start selling it off at way below it's worth they would fuck up their balance sheets and the valuation of the company taking write downs on the value of IP.
>>91923734but this is just the same group twi
>>91923734Doppio Dropsite...
