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the shark
https://youtu.be/2ocn3hhyVdM
>>91909364cute
ang pating
>>91909364>>91909371Thread ruined
>>91909481Fauna broke you
>ReGLOSS 3D Live Reach the Tophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYvks57cQA>1st Album "ReGLOSS"https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mchguozrz3dFDusBI-DFmOiDYdKew6Hb4>Feeling Gradation *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=u4uDiV3u-do>セプテンバーさん / September-san (cover) *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQ-npgd2Ok>快晴 / Kaisei (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7QcvdHk70>青と夏 / Ao To Natsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAk_ZGfvdw>青のすみか / Ao no Sumika (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=efF_c9D-R-A>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0>奏 / Kanade (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw>My Dearest (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI>カバー曲 / Cover Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR>歌まとめ / All Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1
Yup, Botted thread
>>91909427Someone added audio to thishttps://x.com/GalaxyFrog3/status/1867609846901887299
GREENchuuba
>>91909546kek
>>91909546that's pretty amusing.
>>91909275just got this today after opening brave again, the shield is not working for now so I got my ublock back but it has the problem of having to reload the page to load the video after clicking on it
We hate kiara
>>91909427>>91909546>CCGG[sound=files.catbox.moe%2Fikupy4.m4a].mp4
>>91909669Youtube always pulls something in December.
Things are going well for the green jewdol that bailed when brave bought jewdol, wouldnt have believed that you would stay a 3view when you are so small on your corpo accout
>>91909679>a
>>91909719lets not forget the copyright strikes schedule every february or march
>>91909669Why not use uBlock Origin Lite?
>>91909744Soon
>>91909845
>>91909768Sex with Hebes
So the Christmas relay is another JP-only event, but somehow all of dev_is is in there too.Really makes you think.
>>91909744
Success breeds jealousy
>>91909896I mean, isn't it by the same guy?
>>91909909>japanese holos taking part in a japan-only thingI'm shocked
Numbers:>i've been gooning once a day this past weekusually it'd be once a week or every other week
>>91909744I feel like there's a non-zero chance this could actually happy relatively soon
>>91909936did scientists finally found a way to transport fulgur's gigantic ass to japan or what
>>91909909You want an Xmas karaoke relay with holoEN happening during JP hours?
>>91909988>gooningIf you use that term and those are your numbers, weak
>>91909909Dev_is is JP
>>91909957shant give up on my fine control also, I can fix it like I did on my other pc with chrome but nah, in one week I can go back to brave shield again anyways
>>91909969Just stop the hypocrisy, roll them into JP if they can't stand on their own.
>>91910010Forgive me I'm a Bao fan
>>91909988when does fapping become gooning? is it the duration of the session?
>>91910002Yeah, it's called cremation.
>>91909706thanks
>>91910023They're already JP retard
>>91910002Niji won
>>91909988>gooningCan't you faggots just call it edging?
It's my hebewife's birthday today. Say something nice about her.
>>91909992Would Nerissa scream or whisper "Fauna-senpai"?
gooning sounds better
Who's purple?
I love them both so much
>>91910030I'm sorry for you.>>91910039It's kinda becoming just a synonym, like when in doujin translation they started to use cunny for pussy. Mostly I see it as fapping for your dicksword mutuals.
Good thread
>>91910089how old is she
>>91910132
>>91910138...on retard day
>>91910132Ina Ina Ina...
>>91910132>purple and red heartsmumei ina and bae are graduating too...
>>91909992QRD?
i hate meni hate nijisanji i don't like vspo
So that's it? Hololive just wins Sony perms?
>>91910132Anon?
>>91910070>edgingbut i finish
>>91910235
>>91910011>>91910046What the fuck are you talking about? The whole point of the branch is that they're not JP and have completely new management.Which is fucking stupid by the way.
>>91910253Why not just say fapping? I laugh at "gooning" because the first times I saw it used was in some darkweb-lite forums, and after that I saw it on discord erp channels.
>>91909909HoloEN can organize EN events and you know it is just going to be GG or CC doing that shit now
>>91910323>streams in japanese>targets the japanese audience
>>91910155>>91910138>>91910221Go Back Brown
>>91910329The ears almost look normal, but the filler characters ruin it.
>Perms situation improving, so more stuff available to stream>More events than ever that don't involve having to communicate with JPs>Plenty of kouhai who love her>According to other girls, don't need to do idol activities if you don't want toWhy Fauna is quitting now after living through 2022 is a mystery for the ages.
I am betting that Nerissa has more lesbians in her fanbase now than female fans in all of Holostars fanbase
>>91910238I'll believe it when they keep them a month later.Not taking chance with the retards at Sony.
>>91910323Are you easily confused by simple concepts?
>>91910380>don't need to do idol activities if you don't want todyrbi?
>>91910380To be with her best friend of all time
the sad thing about shipping is that they can never come true since it would mean an invasion of colorful mental ills in the hobby
>like 4 hours after appearing in the grandiose nijifes, greatest performance of her life, Rosemi is playing yugioh with 1000 viewersNot even the organs can act like they care about their shitty concerts lol
>>91910152Forever 15.
>>91910343Oh, so you're just a retard.Legit thought you had some secret knowledge about Cover's management for half a second.
>>91910380>>91910408
>>91910445>Legit thought you had some secret knowledge about Cover's managementAre you unironically underaged or just a retard?
>>91910436Rosemi sold her soul to the black corpo for one or two performances. All the Nijifags are talking about is how "Pomu missed out" and "Selen could have had this"
>>91910323>Speak JP>Do events with JP Holos>Collab with JP Holos>Going to be in Holofes>Do all the same shit as HoloJPDev_is are JP 7 and 8 with the numbers filed off. No one knows why Cover decided to do it that way, but they did.
>>91910477You're literally calling dev_is part of HoloJP.
>>91910519The numbers are in the logo
>>91910479She’s been getting attention from Harada, that alone makes it worth it for her.
Japanbros, I have a question about something.What if someone insisted that everyone below them calls them "senpai".But then never called the people above themselves "senpai" and used the excuse "I'm EN I don't have to say it". Even though they repeatedly call their lessers "kohai" in an almost nasty way that sounds like they are snarling or mocking them. Doesn't it seem pretty disrespectful?
>>91910323Nigger they're JP. They're just not main branch numbered Gens.
>>91910407Watch Shiori's streams after the graduation announcement. That girl has experienced the blackest of the black, she knows what's up with this shit.
>>91910070It's not edging.Only Gen Alpha think that, because they got into it too late with no context.Gooning is just a GenZ replacement for Cumming (cooming) to bypass the TikTok/Insta affinity detection.I guess it means both things now.>>91910324Because that makes you a millennial.
>>91910531chu
*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>12/20 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)4.075: Mint (Indie) | Awaria3.472: Dokibird (Indie) | ASGS LCQ Apex Legends2.709: Pippa (Phase-Connect) | Civilization V1.646: Enna (Nijisanji) | Glyphica1.571: Ruze (Holostars) | Handcam Stream1.453: Ren (Nijisanji) | 3.0 Model Update1.417: Kanna (PixelLink) | ASMR Stream1.332: Bettel (Holostars) | Get To Work1.302: Shiina (Phase-Connect) | Handcam Stream1.007: Runie (Phase-Connect) | Resident Evil 2 Remake1.004: Alban (Nijisanji) | Homicipher
>>91910519theyre JP but experimental. These shitters wouldnt have made the cut in the main branch
>>91910610>affinity the fuck? Did I paste over it from somewhere?It should be "profanity"
>>91910636>EN COPE GOLDS FOR DECEMBER 20241) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.867 - Variety Stream2) Meloco (Nijisanji) - 4.175 - VCR GTA3) Calli (Hololive) - 4.316 - Kuukiyomi 44) Dokibird (Indie) - 4.812 - Fortnite5) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.645 - Variety Stream6) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.024 - Payday 2 Advent Collab7) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.471 - Payday 28) Calli (Hololive) - 4.922 - Just Chatting9) Mint (Indie) - 3.011 - Merry Gear Solid: Secret Santa10) Mint (Indie) - 4.051 - Indiana Jones and the Great Circle11) Mint (Indie) - 4.801 - Variety Stream12) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.192 - Overcooked 2 w/ Raora13) Bijou (Hololive) - 3.464 - Just Chatting14) Kiara (Hololive) - 4.555 - Duck Detective15) Meloco (Nijisanji) - 3.242 - ASMR Stream16) Shiori (Hololive) - 3.931 - Unarchived Karaoke Rebroadcast17) Dokibird (Indie) - 4.013 - Variety Stream18) Elizabeth (Hololive) - 4.854 - "The Broken Promise" Watchalong w/ Nerissa19) Mint (Indie) - 4.037 - HoloCure20) Mint (Indie) - 4.075 - Awaria>DECEMBER EN COPE GOLDS PER STREAMER5x: Mint4x: Shiori2x: Calli, Meloco, Nerissa, Dokibird1x: Bijou, Kiara, Elizabeth>DECEMBER EN COPE POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 3pts, silver = 2pts, bronze = 1pt)28p: Mint20p: Meloco16p: Dokibird14p: Shiori4p: Fulgur3p: Shu, Shiina, Luca, Jelly, Millie---------------------------2p: Hakka, Nene, Doppio, Panko1p: Bettel, Rin, Vezalius, Rosemi, Eimi, Enna, Ember>POINTS PER STREAMER (Small agencies/indies) (gold = 3pts, silver = 2pts, bronze = 1pt)19p: Nene9p: Kanna6p: Rin5p: Miori3p: Alias
>>91910591Die vermin
>>91910408retard
>>91910380I'm unironically starting to think she just wants to cash out her viewers and go indie, Like that's literally all."muh management" is bullshit. Management is not a monolith and was shown to be able to change and improve. That's pretty much why reactions from ENs were so weird so far.
>>91910636purgatory tally
>>91910595"JP" is the main branch. That's how people call them because there's no actual name except "Hololive".
>>91910323>The whole point of the branch>Pretty much the same point as the jp branch>"bu-but they are not jp"You monkey are a literal retard
>>91910656More like it's a trick to make sure their numbers don't reflect badly on the main branch in IPO reports. Not too different from how they get separated in the charts here because they would pull down HoloJP's averages otherwise.
>>91910387The Venn diagram of Nerissa female fans and Holostars fans is just a circle
>>91910380Money
>>91910380Do you remember July 2021? How everything improved for Holo, some girls even allegedly getting better % SC deals?Yeah, big graduations might be forcing better conditions for the remaining talents.
>>91910591Enna with people who debuted after her >senpai, I'm your senpai, you must call me senpai>you are my kohai, shut up kohai, you're just my kohai, these kohai's don't know anythingEnna with people who debuted before her (Rosemi, Selen, Pomu....etc)>never once called them senpai>never once showed them a modicum of respect whatsoever
>>91910705>she just wants to cash out her viewers and go indiethe most sensible answer
>>91910742The irony of that post.
>>91910705>>91910764so why no affiliate ?
>>91910750you are an idiot
>retards in this thread thinking they know more than koyo
>>91910636Rename this "Mint Tally unless Shiori streams"
>>91910465
>>91910838and you don't pay attention
>>91910808didn't exist when she signed up for one final year last winter
>>91910729JP = Japan. Main branch and Dev_is are both Hololive Japan.
>>91910705I've believed this from the start. She pays the most attention to the non-Holo streaming scene out of all the ENs, she's probably been watching the successful ex-corpo reincarnations from the past year and decided to go for it. Not even just talking about the post-Selen situation, there are successful examples going back at least to Henya in 2023.
>>91910636I'm kind of pissed Mint ended up just shy of 5k as a streamer. If only she graduated sooner and didn't do her retarded actions with Luca she would be way more popular right now
>>91910893>>91910839
>>91910808maybe it comes with some caveats maybe she doesn't want to deal with anymore japanese contracts at all I dunnoQuite clearly it's a very selfish decision. She doesn't want her fans to feel better about her graduation. She wants them to come watch her "reincarnation"
>the retard doesn't know the meaning of "/"I bet he can't also read nips
>>91910808No idea, we don't know what the stipulations of the affiliate contract and it may be preventing her from doing something she wants to, such as retaining a talent agency or something. I don't buy the "doing it out of spite" thing because that's stupid and not in-character for her. We also don't know the actual percent of merch royalty from affiliate status but it may not be particularly meaningful, not worth keeping the status if the contract has some unwelcome features.
>>91910964>can't also
>>91910705>cash out her viewersSimply doesn't lineup with her consistantly going out of her way to avoid free and easy over the last couple of years
>>91910519>Dev_is are JP 7 and 8 with the numbers filed off. No one knows why Cover decided to do it that way, but they did.Cover fucked up the number naming game with Holox & Homos. (Accounting for Gamers not being a real gen and the failure of CN)>Gen 1 = 1>Gen 2 = 2>Gen 3 = 3 >Gen 4 = 4>ID 1 = 5>Gen 5 = 6 >Myth = 7>ID 2 = 8>Council = 9>HoloX = 10HoloX was the 10th Gen of Hololive at that time, hence they got the Roman numerical X. Then ID 3 came, no issue. HOWEVER, omegatroon did T3mpus which nobody liked so they had to scrap everything, forcing Dimitri into AdVent (check the logo), which still is EN3 total homo death, and start counting all over with every branch separately. So Regloss = JP 7 but they cannot name it JP 7 because HoloX already has the X = 10. Hence why it isn't officially JP7 but it is in spirit. Similarly FlowGlow is JP8.
so it took a graduation to actually make it happen huh
>>91910746It's sunk cost fallacy at that point. They should have put ReGLOSS into JP and called it over, but instead they're persisting with FLOW GLOW and it's going even worse.
>>91909534Kys
>>91910952One could argue that stringing people along with the idea that "you might come back" is less ethical than simply graduating. There are people out there, right now, who think Ame is gonna be back for Fes or rejoin in a year or some other such nonsense. Fauna is a clean break without perpetual cope.
>>91911007Free and easy?
>>91910808She's no interested in working again with Cover and wants to separate herself from it. Specially for someone like Fauna, the constant "wanna join Holofes 6, wanna do EN Live3" might get annoying, plus maybe it's just being polite and giving her fans some closure, instead of leaving things as messy as Ame did. There might also be some stuff the in the affiliate contract that prevents her joining or doing certain things down the line, like maybe if she wants to join another corpo after, or affiliate herself to group like Mythic, or even make her own that might not be possible as an affiliate who's pseudo employed by Cover, also, since she would still be getting paid in some sort of way, it's probably more unnecessary tax work
Are we still doing this?https://files.catbox.moe/llipnc.png
>>91910839Im sure most of us have seen that image with a chan showing devis is seperate from the main branch too
>>91910705The other girls debunked her management claim, so she's definitely lying about that.
>>91911107Post the Fauna one
>>91911125They debunked that Fauna had a disagreement with management? How did they do that?
>Hololive ENIrrelevant>Chatgpt vtuberThe biggest
>HoloX>HoroX>Horokusu>roku = 6
>>91911090>like maybe if she wants to join another corpo after,All signs are pointing towards Phase Connect. Lemonleaf is practically confirmed to be one of the new set of Invaders.
>>91911125inb4 this retard conflates Chloe and Fauna
>>91911049I don't believe that FlowGlow would have gotten better numbers if they were "official" JP. Keep in mind that they got the highest debuts in Hololive history, the JP box showed up to check them out, the confusion from ReGloss is mostly gone now. It's just another gen with no real standouts. Maybe they'll claw their way up like some of ReGloss did, but I'm not convinced that being "real" JP would've changed much.
>>91911125Retard
>>91911125fucking retard
>>91911208Every single EN girl who talked about the graduation confirmed that management is good.
>>91910380I think every time a big talent quits, management changes are made.Same thing happened with Coco - after she quit, the talents started pushing back on wanting more freedoms on stream, resulting in lewder stuff like Maribako being approved (even if they had to fight for it).Same thing happening here, Fauna leaving due to perms guy ignoring her - perms guy instantly gets fired, and they fix everything (which was already underway, but Fauna's probably tired of pandering to the holo crowd and wants to do "more" (i.e. twitch stuff, react streams, reddit readings and getting involved with the greater internet) so it was likely that the perms thing was just the excuse for her to quit.
>>91910705>cash outIf she wants more money, then she would do more sponsorships, voice packs, and other stuff that generates money within Holo. She doesn't. That leaves two options:>she avoids that stuff on purpose, possibly because she doesn't care for money - no reason to cash out by going indie>she isn't granted the same opportunities as other talents for some wild reason, possibly linked to management neglecting her - then she has a good reason to go her own way if the company won't give her proper support while taking a cut She isn't that ambitious to just go indie for the hell of it, risking her progress. She had a reason.
>>91911021Jp0 existence? Effortlessly erased
>>91911138Nah
>>91911152I have no idea who Reuben Starcasm or raechit is, never watched them in my life. Never chatted in GXAuras chat but I use Opera so somehow it automatically made me watch her and credit me with chatting to her. I watched like 2 Sayu drama streams and a few Onigiri collabs.
>>91911107Mococo finally getting the nourishment Fuwawa stole in the womb
>>91911227What about the one with the same manager rrat.
>>91911227>these girls had a good relationship with their managers>therefore Fauna can't have a good relationship with her manager
>>91911230she probably vomits every day thinking about how much attention she gets in hololive
>>91911230The risk isn't that great for her.
>more timeloopsgrim desu
>>91911294What's more likely? Management is bad despite the majority of talents liking them, or management being good and Fauna is just an entitled white woman.
>>91911250Gen 0 didnt become an official gen till after Azki transferres in June 2022 after HoloX was already established
Ugly Ass Faggots
>>91911230Being and indie is easier, it's less work, everything is on your terms, there's no corporate or group image to uphold, for someone like Fauna who just likes being a streamer for the most part, seeing others like Doki or Mint make it post corpo, probably sealed the deal. It's not that she dislikes idol culture, or that she wants more money, or that she hates management. She just wants to take the easy path. Now a days, specially if you're coming from a big persona, indie success is guaranteed and Hololive simply didn't have anything to offer Fauna that would make it worthwhile for her to stay, going indie is the easy way now.
is the card game a perpetual money printer then? how much supply would they have to print before demand wouldn't be able to keep up? If they're selling out instantly it kinda seems like they could afford to expand production a decent amounthow much money are they leaving on the table?
>>91911356*April but that still after HoloX was established
>managementthis is not the only issue why Fauna is leaving for sure..Fauna want to be a indie and dont to fight with management it's my guess.
>>91911368this webbum misconstrues the video quality of the performanceriiiiiiiight?
Be me finds a attractive vtuber goons to her do some research finds out their a member of nijisanji; I have never felt such shame...
Good to see the same productive conversation, that's happened every day for three weeks, is happening again today.
>>91911229>Twitch stuff>React shit>Reading fucking redditDisgusting, but I wasn't following her to indie anyway, so maybe the hardcore Saplings will enjoy that shit.
>>91911428I hope you mean JP because all the EN girls are dogs
>>91911353Ah the ol management is a monolith and all Holos have the exact same experience shitpost
Fauna wanted to speak to the manager
>>91911447Stop samefagging retard
kek
>>91911229She deleted her twitch link, retard, she is staying on YouTube doing the same thing she was doing for the last 3 years. Just with more random shitposts like the videos she uploaded recently.
>>91910705>>91911087>Free and easy?Turning off SC when moving to SC reading sections, turning off SC in concert/event free chats. She could have easily milked a lot more out of SC, without any real effort.Not doing voicepacks, limited signed merch. Not really shilling various merch. Not taking sponsorships for things she didn't feel comfortable shilling to her audience.She's very consistantly gone out of her way to not milk more money from her audience. She could have easily earned a ton more money without any effort or really raising any eyebrows. The "cashing out" rrat just doesn't fit her behavior over the last few years
>>91911443Is that mole cannon?
>>91911453we love dogs here
>>91911441and it will probably never go away until she comes clean on why she graduated. But she never will, so get comfy I guess.I like Fauna, and she's entitled to handling her graduation however she wants, but I'm not going to ignore that she went about it horribly
>>91911512Yes
>>91911353
>>91911325This, the girl who periodically talks about imposter syndrome probably just can't take it anymore with the concerts in front of actual live audiences and shit like that.
>>91911494http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-ngUgzKZ8
>>91911510If anything management wanted her to shill their shitty jackets, watches and gamersups, among other stuff, and she felt bad about it.
>>91911549david jorn doesnt sound like someone from SEA
>>91911510You can want more money but in a way that you're comfortable with. She's comfortable doing the same style of content but keeping an extra 1/3rd of it.
>>91911512100% /ope/ has moleschizos that go crazy when Nerissa's moles are omitted from drawings or placed at the wrong spot
Saplings are unironically falling for Fauna's act. It's crazy.
>>91911510There are also theories that she moved back in with her family, so she probably needs to care about money even less now if that's true.
>>91911353>What's more likely?Option 3, you are an actual idiot, is by far the most likely
>>91911588Sex Tourist, very obvious Scandinavian name
>>91911534S-sugoi
>>91910407
>>91911510Maybe "cashing out" is the wrong way to frame it, but I could very well see it just being the case that she didn't want to bother with all the extra stuff that comes with being part of Hololive, and seeing the success others have had, just chose to pull the plug and go her own way, before it was too late. She pretty much gave up completely on having a normal normal again, and probably invested on doing streaming until she retires, so for someone who isn't really interested in having a singing career, or moving onto other fields like voice acting. It's probably not a bad idea, to get working on her own IP rn, when indies are doing pretty good and vtubers are still popular
>>91911441timeloops within timeloops
>>91911494This does happen almost every year in December.
>>91911588Probably some Scandinavian that took his government pension to SEA and lives like a king there.
>>91911588It's scandinavian but there's a lot of mixing in sea.
>>91911512100% canonhttps://x.com/nerissa_en/status/1866194261307212212
>>91911690qrd?
>>91911690Who would have guessed that December is flu season? Not me!
>>91911770Bigger
>>91911187If they were JP proper, they would also be ran like a proper gen though. They would have the proper Hololive theming and management style that has been proven succesful over the years.Instead they're vaguely chasing new audiences with no real result (Raden lucking into a viral meme is irrelevant).You just said it, their biggest streams are carried by the global Holobox. If their only hope after two gens is still to leech from HoloJP, then pull the plug because it's getting sad at this point.
>>91911673I mean, being "an indie" is the norm for YouTubers, it's mostly vtubers being shackled to some kinda corpo. And if anyone out of current EN can do it on their own, it's Fauna.
>>91911494I thought gozaru died
this dave chappelle song Nerissa is doing sucks
Corpo work is not for everyone, and she just wanted to relax a little now that it's pretty much a guarantee that she will continue being successful as an indie. The management bit was probably what they recommended her say, given that it's what everyone else has been saying, thinking that it wouldn't be that big of a deal, and it would leave her in better standing that "I'm honestly just tired and want to take it easy until I'm 50"
>>91911584>If anything management wanted her to shill their shitty jackets, watches and gamersups, among other stuff, and she felt bad about it.I think any attempt to reduce it to one simple reason is inherently stupid, because it will be multiple things.But yeah I do think this makes more sense as one of the reasons. Having to shill more, increasingly lower quality, merch. Things like the vaping sponsorship.
>>91911856No vewpoint, no voice.Yeah, I don't see the point either, but she there I guess.
This wasn't tagged as Raora, but I'm pretty sure it's Raora.
>>91911784>Instead they're vaguely chasing new audiencesSo what is THE HOLOLIVE NORM then if you are such an expert in marketing. What makes Kanade different from Nene? What makes Niko different from Marine?
>>91911915Looks like Okayu
>>91911928>What makes Kanade different from Nene? What makes Niko different from Marine?Ask Cover, not me. I'm the one who thinks it's retarded.
>>91911856
Alright Shiori's playing a FOTM game (Is MiSide a buff game or not?) that just released the 10th of this month, that actively fits her style, during prime time today. She's not under as heavy of an overlap today for the first hour with only the Fauna/Mumei Wikipedia Talk Page Wars #2 stream that would be in it's second half at that point and Nerissa starting to stream at the same time. Predict her numbers since we don't usually have an opportunity to see her like this often, she's usually Super Debuffvella.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VizT6x5WZpU
>>91911063Ame did everything to reinforce that idea tho... She was so fucking indecisive with her answers everything basically was a "maybe" and "we'll see"
>>91911998>FOTMI've literally never heard of this game, what makes it fotm
>>91911494>Battle Royale>They die before the stream.
>>91911998What's this random Kusoge and how is it fotm?
>>91912032its needy streamer 4 or whatever we are on
I VASTLY prefer full graduation over that weird affiliated status. If you want out, you want out, have it the proper idol way.
>>91911980No no (you) defend your claim. You made the claim that they aren't proper JP and that they don't have a proper Hololive theme. Hence i am asking (you) what is the proper Hololive theme, what are they doing to vaguely chase new audiences that HoloJP isn't already doing as well.
>>91912032All of the big YouTubers/Streamers like Markiplier, Asmongold and Kubz Scouts are playing it and racking up big numbers.
>>91912109You made that last one up
I know the content will be exactly the same, but I don't know if it will be able to bring myself to watch Fauna without the Fauna model, her design is just too fucking goodand Lemon one, ain't all that good, it juts looks like Mike
>>91912070Big YouTubers are playing it and doing numbers is why it's FOTM, Asmongold as well has played it on stream.
>>91911230I didn't mean it in money way. I mean she wants to take her current active viewers base and move them to her indie self or whatever.I doubt it's about money per se. There's just no real reason for her to stay when she can do exact same thing but without corporate oversight >She isn't that ambitious to just go indie for the hell of it, risking her progress. She had a reason. there's literally no risk especially if you blame management in an ambiguous way like that
>>91912131You got me kek. Keeping you on your toes.
>>91911898Considering Cover almost certainly had to approve her graduation statement, I wouldn't be surprised if it was filtered through a million layers of ESL and the JP management didn't realize that "disagreements with management" made them look bad in the EN world. They might have even suggested it.
>>919121322 tone neck debut model
Sakutan turned into a filthy NEET after becoming indie, beware saplings the vegan might starve herself to death.
>>91911998Uh 6k?
>>91912093How I get Gura to leave holo too? I’m just done with cover not letting her do anything
>>91912202>implying she wasn't already a filthy NEET
>>91911998She's getting overlapped by a big tourist buffed stream and won't get a raid from it because they'll raid their song, so I'm not expecting something big here.
>>91912188Fauna isn't an ESL retard, she wouldn't have said it that way if she didn't mean it. She would have gone with "creative differences" to really soft-pedal it if she wanted to.
>>91912132>modelYou didn't really like her. It's ok if you aren't a sap, otherwise feel ashamed.And she might get a redesign anyway, she had 3 years of big booba brainrot and finding her style. She is really enjoying being a silly goober now, so she might go for something a bit more casual looking.
>>91912260ackshually she had a job so she was not a neet, just a hikki
>>91911393>Now a days, specially if you're coming from a big persona, indie success is guaranteed and Hololive simply didn't have anything to offer Fauna that would make it worthwhile for her to stay, going indie is the easy way now.yeah pretty much thislike even yagoo himself couldn't properly answer the fucking question about how they are planning to keep talent from leaving and was just muh brand muh studio which is fucking retarded shit to sayLike fucking IMAGINE how shit their managing ability is if they couldn't come up with a betterincentive for talents to stay. He could've said fucking anything - how they will help you with your music career by this and that or how they'll help you to run your projects or to realize your dreams or ideas or whatever. Yet he said fucking NOTHING. Insane shit
>>91912288Hikki cannot have a job, unless it's WFH
>>91912260She still needed to drag her ass to the studio so she objectively wasn't one.
>>91911998>She's not under as heavy of an overlap today for the first hour with only the Fauna/Mumei Wikipedia Talk Page Wars #2 streamThat's going to be some pretty big overlap. Won't get raided to since the raid will go to the MV. I'd say big funnel potential but the EN 3D stream starts then to
>>91912256Cover may block Gura sometimes, but I think a lot of her current issues are her own. She's probably seeing an actual shrink right, so Gura might be legit menhera, not just average woman menhera.
>>91912277Enjoyment of a vtuber is intrinsically linked to their design, you can't like a vtuber but be indifferent about their design, they're a package deal, our physical appearance does matter when it comes to how we're perceived by other and they will forever be linked and inseparable and that also applies to vtubers
>>91912291People aren't making career decisions off random yagoo off-the-cuff remarks in investor conferences.
>>91912093>If you want out, you want out, have it the proper idol way.Expect in real life actual idols return all the time for special events
>>91912277Hope she basically does a Dooby who basically maked Ame 2.0 just added a tail and ears
>>91912365What if your favorite vtuber became a bug
>>91912393chuchuchu
>>91912393Chu
>>91912132>I know the content will be exactly the sameEven if the content is the same it won't feel the same fauna won't be won't fauna, her environment will be different, different jokes, different friends, different fan culture, etc.
>>91912378>go to Eine's owner who still owns the remaining IPs>buy out Rifu IP>change the name
>>91911998Her incline starts NOW
>>91912449Not really.
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>128,267: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>41,374: Marine (Hololive)>37,683: NeruMero (Indie)>37,441: Nene (Hololive)>35,948: Miko (Hololive)>26,882: Cecilia (Hololive)>25,262: Oriens (Nijisanji)>23,013: Sakuna (Indie)>19,535: Korone (Hololive)>18,724: Shion (Hololive)>16,189: Kei (Nijisanji)>15,864: Okayu (Hololive)>14,064: Luna (Hololive)>12,705: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>12,259: Fubuki (Hololive)>11,497: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>11,208: GatchmanV (Indie)Gold for the Niji main channel with Day 1 of their musical event with Marine getting silver with baseball and Nerumero, bronze
>>91912274The JPs are ESL retard, miss non-confrontational Fauna probably just submitted a statement, they edited it based on their shitty understanding of English, and Fauna just went, "yeah, sure" and read it. She probably even realized a little light drama would help her indie transition, so why try to change it at that point?
>>91912487>same content>same friends>same jokes>no LucaHow did Wisps win this much?
>>91912291Some people leave great gigs even if there are plenty of incentives to stay. Look at all the successful bands that have broken up.
>>91912491niji...
>>91912497>help her indie transitionretard
>>91912367it's not about people making decisions it's about management being fucking retardedit's not like it's the first time either
>>91912491
>>91912549So you have no argument, got it.
>>91912531Sure but they didn't even fucking give a proper answer lol. It was bullshit.
>>91912132saplings have no reason to not watch notFauna. Most of her content was solo and rarely collabed with other holomems and never collabed outside of the garden.
>people giving the rimjob schizo the time of the day Couldn’t be me
>>91912365I will be honest, when I first started getting interested in Fauna I thought her model is actually a debuff. I grew to like it, especially with goth outfit, but it was her voice, personality and humor first for me. Then when I learned more about her, I started loving even her flaws and insecurities. I just don't mind her changing the model entirely, I just want to be with her.
>>91912202Based
>>91912631Will you keep watching Hololive, or just stick with Lemon going forwards
>>91911138This is the onehttps://files.catbox.moe/qi4ygl.png
>>91912393chuchuchuchuchuchuchuchuchu
>open catalog>see Santa Cheebs>close catalog
>>91912491Nijigods stay winning
>>91912587if you really think Fauna wants to put her friends in a shitty situation just for "her indie transition " ...
>>91912685They're spreading like a plague
>>91912658I barely watch non-Fauna Hololive content at this point anyway, I'm out. At most I will watch Gura, but we know how it works.
>>91912611Good. I hate collabs
>>91912685Even Ai fags are making cheebs now
>>91912742I would anti my oshi if she played league
>>91912491All nijibots on deck
>>91912188It’s not an ESL thing, it’s literally one of the most generic, non-controversial statements they could use. It’s just that dramafags want another NijiEN implosion.
>>91912742Is CC just Gigi’s sex doll at this point?
>>91911393>She just wants to take the easy pathCalling it the easy path sounds a bit dismissive but>Hololive simply didn't have anything to offer Fauna that would make it worthwhile for her to stayYeah. At some point all the stress, all the health issues she's had (risking getting COVID again when it hit you that bad before), cancelled, delayed, or butchered projects, etc, all those negatives start to add up over the years. At some point they do start outweigh the positives of staying
>>91912702Why would she want to put her friends in a shitty situation for any fucking reason? And yet she did.
>>91912702If she cared about her friends that much, why say it at all? Just give some bland, cookie-cutter, uncontroversial graduation reason instead. But she didn't, so either she doesn't actually care about the other girls that much or she was saying what management said to say and those JP ESLs are just retarded.
>>91912848If she loves Moom like she says she does then she should stay. It’s that simple
>>91912746So what will you do when you realize that things are not the same and never will be the same?
Where the Niji Lewds?
>>91912938No one gives a fuck about niji.
>>91912938who?
>>91912882>yet she did.I do hope you are actually being paid to spend all day pretending to be this retarded
>>91912938Who won?I only saw 1 performance with picrel.
>>91912982I got a Jollibee gift card
I only care about Salome
>>91912938Here you go.
>>91913004Checks out
>>91912922I will worry about it when I have to? Why would I create some dark scenarios in my head right now? As far as I'm concerned right now, "things" will only get better.
>>91912938
>>91913007>7 3k streams or lower this monthhttps://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCgIfLpQvelloDi8I0Ycbwpg/2024-12I didn't even know she was back to this account after her break.
https://x.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1870174663818784870>Commenting in 5 min to a 2 follower accountMatsuri he will become your gachikoi
>>91913055
>>91913083>"things" will only get betterIf you really disliked her collabs with the other girls sure, but that point why even oshi someone from hololive if you hate everyone else?
>>91912291>just muh brand muh studio which is fucking retarded shit to sayanon, you're the retard here when it's stuff like the brand carrying people like Suisei or Mori to where they are right now,
>>91913055>Ringo>In the sacred numbers thread.
>>91913109Luckily she's sexy
Ok, I can enjoy something like this.https://youtu.be/aFMmOE_0Tb8
What happened to Hololive?
>>91913132this is nothingShe has previously tweeted that>If you ever cheat on me I will not break up but wait for your wedding to come and behead you and kmsYeah, she is half way there becoming Rushia
>>91913164>If you really disliked her collabs with the other girlsWhen did I say it? I just said I don't really watch many streams that don't involve Fauna. Some collabs might suck, some collabs are really good, excited for Moom today, but ultimately Fauna's solo streams are the main content.
what is this?
>>91913299Youll have to ask louder, Holo chads can’t hear you from all the way down there
>>91913335Christmas santa outfits?
>>91913335Cover giving EN 3D outfits that JP has had for 3 years.
>>91913187Brand is not an incentive to fucking stay in hololive dumbass. They can just fuck off and take most of their active viewers with them. Plus they will get fuckton of offers from other corpos/agencies you name itIt's more like so far we've seen "brand" being a reason they fucking leave instead, It's a stupid shit to answer.
>>91913335expensive merch shill stream
>>919133353D santa outfit reveals and merch shilling I think
>>91913387You seem terribly upset and combative about something that is ultimately minimal. Maybe you should take a break and watch a couple of streams from your oshi
>>919133353D stream to shill some jewelry merch. And EN finally get the Santa outfits
>>91913335Shill stream. Some jewelries I think
>>91912393chu chu chuuuuu
>>91912100>You made the claim that they aren't proper JPIt's not a "claim", it's a fact. Dev_is is a different branch. The fact you don't know such basic shit baffles me.>what is the proper Hololive themeVery anime-influenced fantasy characters with obvious themes, lore and "kayfabe". Good balance between streaming and idol activities (depends of the girls' focus, of course). Something they've been building up since Holo Fantasy and perfected with HoloX and Advent.>what are they doing to vaguely chase new audiences that HoloJP isn't already doing as well.I literally said it wasn't working and didn't make sense, why should I explain Cover's failed strategy? The point though is to bring more normalfags and girls in, because they think targeting the otaku audience would just cannibalize their own market and that it has diminishing returns at that point (makes sense on paper).
>>91913335privilege's given to those that accept covers offer to move to japan
https://x.com/nerissa_en/status/1869980831516954988Can someone explain why am I seeing sooo many qrts going mad over this?Is this a song?
I didn't give it much mind at first but...why is this such a big deal again? The fuck are people doing?
>>91913515https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ4vq4vs-Z4Lesbian song
>>91913541HoloEN lost.
>>91913515https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKqOmSkGgMDo you even Fauna karaoke? She sang it like twice already
>>91913515It is a song. The most famous song from Chappell Roan who is popular with zoomers/gen alpha. Lots of HoloENs have sang it in their karaokes.
>>91913335Reminder that these will be EN's first non-idol 3d alternates (not counting morp).
>>91913541The Queen of EN vtubing
>>91910808uhhhh uhhh
>>91913515
>>91913541Vwhorejo Lost
>>91913584>>91913595I figured it might be a song but how would I know its a lesbian song
>>91913541what's up with this?
>>91913439hololive members leaving hololive is not minimaldumb fuck
>>91911125What are they supposed to say exactly? >yeah management is bad>i have big disagreements with managers too>i am not liking the direction managment has been taking us
>>91913315By saying that "things will only get better". The only thing that'll certainly change about her content are the collabs because once she's out of hololive she won't be able to collab with anyone there unless they decide to do it on their rms which is already a crapshoot considering how busy most girls are nowadays and how their timeslots rarely match with hers.
>Humiliation Ritual
>>91913619How many non-Idol 3D alternates do 5 and 6 have? Error outfits? Anything else besides that?
>>91913584>FaunaWho? That the one graduating and never being relevant in holo circles again within the next two weeks?
>>91913541mousey mogged kek
>>91913559>>91913595why is Nerissa investing so much to build lesbian fanbase, everyone knows she isnt one
>>91910909>She pays the most attention to the non-Holo streaming scene out of all the ENsyes the one who never did a collab outside the garden alongside gura. Great deduction.
>>91913690A lot of people sing it in karaoke. The lyrics are very...not subtle.
>>91913541Dooby collab?
>>91913727Error and BJ for some members. Honestly I forgot the swimsuits so that's my bad. ID has their own group alternates too.
>>91913557It's just dramaniggers trying make a seasonal flu look like Cover's fault. Just ignore them.
>>91913738Because she kinda fell into that niche, and any growth is good.
>>91913701Absolute seethe. Again, take a step back and chill.
>>91913709The usual implication for "things will never be the same" is that things will get worse, I just responded to that. That has zero fucking direct connection to collabs in particular.
>>91913717I would prefer a 20k ccv streamer of these shitty awards tho
>>91913775Apparently I read some random tweet about it and it seem the cold chicken crowd is latching onto it again
Why can't you wrap your head around the simple fact that not everyone can be happy in Hololive?
>>91913738She's not very good at anything else so she's pandering to the twitter demographic
>>91913812Go watch Neuro-sama
>>91913515Lesbians are fucking weird
>>91913780but it could come back to bite if you are pretending
>>91913823They're definitely trying to make this look way worse than it is.
>>91913541God who follows this trash
>>91913619??????????????????????????????Bijou and FWMC's you mean
>>91913541Well, it does say a lot about Twitch Vtuber that a dude controlling an AI chuuba is peak entertainment
>>91913515its a stranger things song zoomers love that shit
>>91913864I think she might be legit bi. Or at least really super open to larping as it. Her interest and devotion to Kiara is...well kinda unusual for a completely straight girl. And she was like that with Kiara long before she joined.
>>91913335the generic chritmas 3d body debut
>>91913937Not even controlling it's a chatbot.
>>91913738Her main audience is the twitter attention whore / lesbian audience. She's been pandering to them since debut and it's easier for her because she's a twitter addict and isn't really good enough at games or streaming in general to attract the normal stream watcher audience. It's the same reason she drastically increased her whole "I'm just a pathetic wet cat girl failure, feel pity for me" persona, that is what the Twitter fans want.
>>91913584>>91913559So it’s a lesbian song for those lesbians and gays that got rejected after a fling? Damn all the cope in the lyrics
>>91913937Suddenly big number?
>>91913748>paying attention means you have to collab 30IQAnd he also means fleshie streaming, that's what gives her the edge over most other vtubers in terms of streaming ability and content choice. You might hate it, but that's one of the factors of her incline over time, and popularity among other streamers and content creators.
>>91913541hololive and niji lost the west so hard it's not even funny
>>91914028Neuro-sama has been more popular than holoEN for a long time
>>91914028It happen a lot on Twitch. I thought this thread already know that Twitch have at least a dozen of ways to inflate your ccv at all time?
>>91913966sexuality is a literal psyop
>>91913861Show Chat Speed
>>91913748So? Sounds like you don't watch streams, Fauna has referenced non-Holo streamers and YouTubers more than anyone else in EN, she is 100% plugged into the EN streaming scene regardless of whether or not she collabs with them.
>>91913786Name me one reason not to seethe after a year with 4 graduations 1 termination and A-chan leaving?
>>91913335waiting to Moco-santa
Vedal is pretty cool dude even newcoomers can insert into him roleplaying with neuro or how he picks up girls despite being a tech neet he the infamous brotuber.
>>91913387ok, now you went full retardMori cannot go and keep her shit since it was forged through Cover's corporate connections in the first place
I really cannot bring myself to watch Flow Glow because they have an Ironmouse lookalike smack dab in the middle of their lineup. I shall not be reminded of the rat's existence
>>91914166Vivi cute
>>91914158Sigh... you are so fucking STUPID.When you are being asked "how are you planning to keep your talents from graduating" and your answer is "we will just continue to do what we've been doing" IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK WHEN YOU HAD 4 FUCKING GRADUATIONS IN A YEARIs this more comprehensive for you, dumbass?>Mori cannot go and keep her shit since it was forged through Cover's corporate connections in the first placeYou are unironically too stupid to have this conversation, I'm sorry
>>91914028There are a lot of have beens in twitch that were flavor of the season once upon a time. The question is can he keep them
>>91914322Only one of those graduations was for an unacceptable reason.
>>91914166She's a cutie unlike ironlung tho
>>91914153>The most popular Twitch vtuber now is a male behind a girl chatbot avatarThis guy is going to bring back the normie perception of all vtubers being men with voice changers.
>>91914322Not him but I read your entire outburst and I have this to sayThis is just how reality work, it is impossible to please everyone, the best a CEO can do is pleasing the majorityAnd it it cause the minority to leave, then there's nothing anyone can do about it, since you just don't go against the majority for minority, that's not how to build a business. It's just something that eventually will happen
>>91914379>The most popular youtube vtuber is a niji malepick your poison
>>91914322https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mwG08MBcqWQ
>>91912938This girl has an amazing dedicated artist.
>>91914322except the fact that by doing what they were doing (playing it safe while expanding their corporate connections), the things have been getting expotentionally better for talents that wish to take advantage if that shit, you drooling moron
>>91914017Lesbian salty after the girl she was seeing left her to go be with a man, yeah
There's a big difference between guys who like yuri and Twitter dykes, and I wish Holos wouldn't expend so much effort appealing to the latter
>>91912938I shall watch the stream now and gather some.https://youtu.be/a1HkbyhpFOw?t=1862>Mikoto and Chinman host.
shiraken haneda collab goodshttps://shiraken-haneda.com/
>>91913109>was back to this accountAre people still pushing for the "Salome is Debi" shit?
>>91914456No chance your talking about the bottled tin boy
>Please watch my Twitch and Niji WhoresHoloChads
>>91914133Here is a simple one: it’s a hobby. If you’re not deriving enjoyment from it you just look for another.
Twitch Numbers LMAO
>>91914362that's not the point
Today Fauna will be mogged by Hololive and it'll be great. She won't even get 20k, and the song will flop.
>>91914744HOLY FUCK now this is actual leeching as a feature
Holo vs Holo?
>>91913335An invitation to cum on their collarbones
>>91914016>Her main audience is the twitter attention whore / lesbian audience.That is not her main audience, she is just using them. The twitterfag dont buy merch, nor buy memberships. Nerissa knows, however, that it gets her publicity especially for her music. She is currently the most GFE talent in EN to the point where you can't even call it girlfriend anymore. You met her family, her cat, she rants and cries in membies because she is mutually parasocial. She knows that those fans are her core audience which is around 3.5k Jailbirds
>>91914430I don't think it's a fucking secret that cover literally CAN do better. I bet it's even more obvious for actual talents. Yet he couldn't even promise that. To improve.
>>91914786Couple that with that “knock” feature of begging for collabs and you have the perfect leech tool
>>91914133Anon, just stop caring about Cover and 'Hololive" and just pay attention to individual talents at this point. Cover does not care, they will continue to not care as long as they keep peddling this "growth" with their holoearth garbage and whatever bullshit they have planned there.
>>91914860>Yet he couldn't even promise that. To improve.
>>91914862This one is more outrageous since it is literally the "combined peak" meme realized as a feature
Anyone remembers when people where hyping this chick up as the next big thing and that holo should copy her technology?
>>91914016>>91914857>It's the same reason she drastically increased her whole "I'm just a pathetic wet cat girl failure, feel pity for me" persona, that is what the Twitter fans want.This is correct, but the members know better
>>91914533So your answer is basically "fuck em"Fucking moron
>>91914857>mutually parasocialThat’s even dumber for a term than just using it wrong like the beggars do. The most important feature of the mental disease called “parasocialism” is the fact it is unidirectional and the other side doesn’t even know the person exists.
>>91914910nta but I'd put more stock in what he said to investors
>>91914930Youtube was pushing her hard a couple of years ago. I had to Do Not Recommend Channel at least once a day while it was happening.
>>91914948>mental disease called “parasocialism”I guess being a fan is a mental disease now.
>>91914910"Doing everything we can" is a meaningless statement.If you think this is a satisfying answer you might want your brains checked
>>91913335NO FAVORTISM
>>91914769
fuck
>>91914945yeah, if you're not up for corporate work, leaveby your logic Cover should've bend over harder to keep Dumb and Dumber because apparently employee retention is the only thing that counts
>>91914910You realize he never intended to have an honest discussion in the first place, right? He just wants to be a dramafag.
>>91914574Do Twitter lesbians even watch streams or are they basically the same as sisters?
>>91915028I mean, I don't, I think it's devoid of any remorse and clearly only exists to try and make fans not fuck off. But he does say in that interview that he's trying to make things better which you said he never did
>>91914948It is correct though. The relation mechanics are different. Individual jailbirds are desperate to Nerissa warmth and comfort, but Nerissa is desperate for the affection and positive affirmation of the collective of Jailbirds
>>91914585First unithttps://youtu.be/a1HkbyhpFOw?t=2038
>>91914466I'd unironically take this over holoass
>>91915089Dumb and Dumber were actual fucking liabilities in a branch that was never going to do well anyway.
>>91914322ENs are negligible>no ROI after 4 yearsCEO himself said it
>>91915068
>>91914930>holo should copy her technologyThere are people who genuinely believe this, and they are the one who push for insane graphic in modern gaming
>>91915166ENflop bros....
>>91914930CodeMiko is what a 48 year old tech executive from 2019 would think a vtuber should look like if you describe the concept to him.
>>91915089why do you make it sound like they didn't
>>91915108I disagree. Pointless non-answer is not promising to improve in a slightest
>>91915169Nigger you shitty site has the same fucking problem and the only working adblocks have to periodically fuck with the resolution to work.
>>91914930That's how we got holosummer Marine
>>91915102Basically sisters. Only a small percentage buys merch, watches streams and donates. It's more likely that viewers go on twitter to get more of their oshi, than twitter people going to youtube as consequence of finding someone on twitter. They watch clips, but only twitter clips
>>91915068disable this for now in the filterlist for now
>>91914930Didn’t it turn out that her bf was doing most of the work behind the scenes to make it work?
>>91915102>>91915293They'll also say stuff like>my overaries explodedWhilst being a man, hidin behind a she/her or a she/they
I can't tell if this is bad or it just mimicked Fauna's skill.https://litter.catbox.moe/8mcf7k.mp3
