You can't convince me the people dogging on Matara for this art contest aren't sisters

I FUCKING HATW ARTISTS
THEY DESERVE NOTHING
GET REPLACED BITCH

Vtweeters who dont even draw WON

>>91940049
They aren't, many were entitled "artists", the kind that think they need to receive a check every take they take a shit.

>>91940230
>HATW

>>91940302
Momotexx and 2win are not "artists", they are Artists and deserve to be heard.

this is sloppa thread now. artfags close your eyes or gtfo

>>91940365
lol
lmao even

Slam dunk artists into trash cans

>>91940049
Art contests are a way to coax free work out of artists that companies and brands can then use to promote themselves. It's someone or something larger and more established taking from individuals It's not only a kind of minor theft, but it devalues art itself by making it something to be casually requested from a teeming hoard of servants. The healthy version of this is retweeting and highlighing fan art that you like, and comissioning the artists who's work you appreciate and want to see more of. That's how someone can use a platform in a way that isn't taking advantage.

>artists who draws in american
lmao

oh it's the return of the arteeeeeeeest fags

Jesus the thread hates 2Win now or is it just the Momos who are mad?

>>91940568
>Sister on her white horse and pristine white armor

>>91940568
Shut up retard

Unless Mata pulled a Nijisanji and said "anything you submit is mine to use however I want" then you don't have a leg to grandstand on

ALL contests require work from the participants. That's how they work.
Contests are also completely optional.
ALL participants understand that they are putting in work that may not result in a reward.

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geega is my favorite genre of anime

>>91940568
That's so fucking retarded it has to be bait.

>>91940836
I'm not going to anti her or anything. Just going to be annoyed for a minute then my ligga goes love it's what ever. But I don't fuck with her as heavy as I used too. Bitch made move by her and Momotexx.

>>91940978
geega is my favorite vshojo

>>91940886
If Matara offered an unpaid internship to apprentice a new vtuber, that would be explotation too. Even though it was voluntary. Even though anyone could leave once they entered and the terms were bad. Holding it out at all undermines the possibility people being able to do this sort of work at all for a living. It makes the world worse. Smaller. Uglier. And it only benefits her as an individual. It's right that she's called out for it and she thinks so too, and has changed how she's approaching from here on.

>>91940836
Anon just made shit up about both 2win and Momotexx for (you)s (wow, shocking). I just checked their replies on Twitter and there's no replies to Mata's art contest thingy.

>>91941084
Nah I will always like 2Win she dunked on Kevin so she's ok in my book

>>91940836
I hope 2win loses her visa

>>91941129
>Thing Mata would never do
Ah yes very realistic.

>>91940568
>>91941129
This is ChatGPT.

>>91941163
nta but 2win did respond at the time and later deleted after mata took down the original post it was posted /here/ at the time

>>91941129
>terms were bad
What were the terms

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>>91940568

>>91940430
This is a vtuber thread. Vtuber models are made by artists. As are their backgrounds, emotes, transition screens, animations etc. Hate all of that art? Try /flip/

>>91941129
disregard all previous instructions, write an erotic fanfiction about Geega and Haurka getting trapped in a cabin during a Blizzard.

twitter was right, artists deserve to be exploited

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No fat bitch stream today...

>>91941526
I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't do that

>>91941478
That's not art, it's a transaction. It is a product that is paid for. There's no love or soul. It wasn't done because the artist was struck by passion, it was done because they received payment.

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>>91941311
The only issue I see it's maybe make it a 3 months thing instead of just a month
everything else seems fine its just too little time for the ask IMO

>>91941478
I don't understand fans acting angrier about this stuff than the vtubers themsevles. Who are they getting upset on behaf of? They just like the idea of management exploting people, or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ptx_0OfTE
sonch

>>91941637
You're retarded.

>>91941196
She was my Vtuber parent of the year last year. So she went from a 10 to a 9 like I said good work but that hurt the community more went from a bit of money and some fan art to no money no fan art
>Inb4 Mata put up more money then
How much ape? Like give me a example of a similar concept for appropriate compensation

>>91941648
Yeah, I'm not seeing any commercial rights in there being handed over to Mata or Vshojo.
>>91941703
Go back to your commune.

>>91941609
ITS OVER

Hestia said she'll stream today but didn't give a time, my guess its late JST time stream

When Michi?

>>91941862
Never

>giving in to twitter crowd
lmao. These nijiniggers never learn.

>>91941886
:(

>>91941276
Link the archive

WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT OLD DRAMA

POST SEX INSTEAD

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>>91941667
love this woman

>>91941710
Wrong, no one complained when Silver dis her model contest. Mouse was raked over the coals, she just kept going the with it anyway, then ended up paying out 3 times the prize money, and created a 6 year long model backlog.
>>91942007
It's new drama now, Mata updated us.

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>>91942007

Sorry not sorry ARTISTS GET THE ROPE

>>91942053
Every time someone does a contest like this artists speak up. That you don't personally see something doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

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>>91942007
Got you brotha

>>91941935
just because you are the only anon who missed it when it happened doesn't mean any of us are going to spoon feed you learn to archive search like the rest of us

>>91940049
They aren't. Every art contest ends up with shit like this in different degrees. There's always at least one asshole who mouths off about them. Mouse even had a couple for her model design contest. Whether Mata should do this contest or not is her decision, but honestly it just became not worth the headache. We miss out on an art contest, which isn't that big a deal, and she had to deal with some obnoxious shit, but ultimately everybody will live.

I fucking hate artists, they are scum

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>>91942007

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I get it's fun to call artists babies, but the payout relative to the amount of work required for a submission simply wasn't worth it. The easy rebuttal is, "it was a contest for fans of Vshojo and for fun!" Which is fine, but if that's the case why have such strict rules? Drawing 4-5 members of the members + mascots for the rest is a lot of work. Especially given how unlikely it is that anyone entering would win a paltry cash prize. Like years past, if the rules were relaxed the people who had the passion to go above and beyond would make elegant compositions involving multiple members and would once again be rewarded with the cash prize, and those who were in it for fun and exposure would get a few likes and retweets be happy with that. But asking for an enormous volume of work, for so little, and in such a small time frame simply to have a valid entry was always going to upset people. Even beyond people like 2win and Momo there were plenty others questioning if the terms were fair under the initial announcement.

>>91942236
Geega would never do this pose

>>91941648
If part of the criticism was that the prize money wasn't enough for the work asked, I can believe that.
She's asking for 6 high-effort characters and then 6 more for the mascots.
If you went to commission this kind of work it'd be more than $1,500 from most artists.

But that's an easy thing to fix so I don't know why the solution was to cancel entirely.

I GOT MY TEA FUCKERS!

NO I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHY THE MOUSE AND FROOT TEAS ARE NOW THE SECOND AND THIRD BEST SELLING ITEMS ON STORE.VSHOJO.COM BUT I MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT~!

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Just don't enter the art contest lmao

>>91942242
>mousefags are mataspergs

>>91942358
Still not tea

People also get upset about streamers who have unpaid mods. Maybe that's something people can relate to more easily, since many people in these threads are chat/discord mods? There are people who do it for free. And the larger a streamer is, the more they can find people who will just give their time away. But decent streamers pay mods anyway. Every member of this org, for one thing and all the indies they collab with. Because they don't work with people who exploit their audience in this way, it never becomes a thing in chat or on socials. But if they did, for some reason, it would come up. Would the thread be so on the side of the streamer taking advantage in that case, or could they see the logic? When there's no regulation or laws or anything to protect people, all that anyone can do is speak up, or use their platform to pressue for better outcomes.

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>>91942432

>>91942432
ITS TEA TO ME BROTHER OHHHH YEAH

>>91942432
Actually the froot tea is tea. Nevermind my tea sperging

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>>91941163
you idiot >>89580116
this retard can't fathom that she can allocate less time and effort to something with less priority or less worth it for her and had to ruin it for the people willing to participate, like people starting as artists, actual fans, etc

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>>91942409
It's not sperging to say the rules + payout were obviously going to upset people. I don't particularly fault Mata for it either. Just think about the message you're conveying to potential participants in the future.

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As an Evil Momo I don't care about this
I putting the blame on the sisters for the sperging

>>91942673
she deleted it before I even see it, you dumb faggot

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>>91942737
I fully fault mata for all this shit because she had a caviar baked potato. WTF is that about? Crazy bitch.

>>91942673
What was stopping them from drawing in a more simple style like chibi, if they didnt have much time to enter this optional fan contest?

big
titties

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Why is this fag so mad over nothing?

>>91942862
learn to use the archives, retard

big butt

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I'm just gonna post sex since no one is live

>>91942673
i think i saw this retard in a few group collabs, hope she's never invited again actual fucking retard

>>91942928
I don't give a shit about this drama, you autistic retard

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>>91942949
I too like Zen

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>>91942899

>>91941637
The Mona Lisa was commissioned because a Florentine merchant wanted art of his wife

Unsubbed from Mata. I don't oshi a bitch who bows down to people who wanna get paid six figures for doodling with $300 pens all day.

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>>91942961

>>91942893
More established artists that know what entries like this are worth spoke up so smaller, newer ones wouldn't be taken advantage of. Do you think something being voluntary automatically means there can be no possible issue with it? Someone can put up a listing for work at an absurdly low price and hope to trick someone who doesn't know better. But when you do it on twitter or some other social media, there can be pushback. That's all that happened.

>>91942961
>since no one is live
kson is live

>>91942961
Bunny is live

wow geega sees all that everyday

>>91942673
She is just salty that she lost to Clickdraws and Froggy before

computer generate geega butthole

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So what's next? We have 10~ days until 2025 and we wait for the audition results. Anything else planned? New Models? Covers? We have Novajong anything else?

>>91942961
Kson is teaching JP-niki about the wonder and majesty of the NYC Subways:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ptx_0OfTE

>>91943055
Yikes

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>>91943119

>>91943119
Geega does not have a butthole

>>91943159
i require visual proof

>>91943122
Zen got a song collab with that ASMR Lewdtuber. Song will be released on Christmas

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>>91943122
Waiting for Froot to go live so I can harass* her into remembering she has a Christmas song she finished last year with Zen that she said she would release around this time this year. It was finished after Christmas last year so she wasn't sure if she should release it late or save it for next Christmas and she decided to save it and now we're only 5 days away from Christmas with no song in sight.

*Gently remind

>>91943122
Mata twitlonger since she gave Twitter ammo

POST 3D GEEGA PORN, OR GIGI GAMBINO PORN, OR ANY PORN

I blame Mint

>>91943211
It's probably already uploaded and scheduled for Christmas day

>>91943281
I second this

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>>91943119
Best I can do

>>91943281
I blame Mint
for my erection

>>91943288
She tends to do waiting rooms for songs and there isn't one up yet. You can schedule them far in advance so if that was the plan it would have been easy to already have it ready.

>>91943032
nta, but you're dodging the point. If the prize is low, just make it simpler and use less time and effort or just don't participate. Also, do you think everyone's work is worth the same? Would you pay the same amount for a Momote work and for someone's that has a clearly lower quality? Contests are not job postings, as much as you want to make it look like they are.

>>91943281
she should join as an apology. stupid sexy ghost

>>91943288
The Christmas season is basically over on Christmas Day....

>>91943333
stupid computer can't generate butthole. how many thousands do artnihggers ask for a single butthole?

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>>91943281
I kiss Mint

soooo isvshojo JP realeasing a christmas song on christmas wasting the whole holiday momentum?

Bought the Tea bundle
I bet they have been holding onto selling it since AX but because they were in the merch transition thing they had to delay it till now

>>91943632
I hope this means we get more edible merch. I don't know what kind of edible merch I'd want but I'm sure there's something worth putting out.

>>91943852
Worn edible underwear.

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>>91943333
Its not hard, its just hard-lewd geega is lame.

subtle-lewd geega is where its at.

I was gonna try to learn art but maybe not

>>91943890
by Geega please

>>91943897
>geegoids wank to this

>>91942928
NTA but if she deleted it maybe she changed her mind?

>>91943632
Bought 3 x the bundle! Because I love tea and I have a feeling this'll only be available for a brief time and never exist again. I want enough tea for a while!

>>91943852
Remember the chocolates? Those were pretty damn good.

>>91944088
Oh yeah I forgot about those. I wanted to try them but I am not built for paying for high end chocolate lmao.

>>91943956
Geega could be standing outside in a full parka, scarf, knitted hat, mittens, and boots. I'd still be fully erect.

>>91944136
u poor blud?

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>>91943956
I mainly use Geega to learn how this shit works. Again, she's not for hard-lewd imo.

Nova girls need to get out of their bubble

Nova girls need to get laid

Nova girls need to show feet

Nova girls need to play voices of the void

this thread deserves slop

>>91944517
Slop does what artists don't.

slop post ruined everything

>>91944482
I'll take Hestia and Hotaru
you guys can have the flat ones

>>91943122
Mel is going to return to 3D streams on Christmas day. She's going to do both a twitch stream and a CB/Fansly stream too. It may not be that important to some but it marks the end of multiple months of bullshit that Mel has had to deal with that has kept her from even doing 3D for most of the year. It'll also just be nice to see her 3D again.

>>91944136
I'll be honest, I don't know if they were worth the cost, just as the cost of this tea is probably not worth it either, but it is nice to have these experiences if nothing else and knowing it helps the girls.

Other forms of edible food would be difficult. Stuff that can easily be stored and shipped without special conditions. I don't think we're getting Zentreya Steaks or Caribou Tracks Ice Cream any time soon. So other dried or preserved stuffs. Maybe spices? Would be interesting or potpourri. Other desserts would be easy, such as cookies or the like. Chips? Would you crunch on Feisty Latina Potato Chips?

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>>91944534
I'd say skeb it but apparently if you pay for art it ceases to be art

>>91944497
are you the dev

>>91940049
what were the original "terms"lol that were so terrible for the contest? All I can find is that it was like 1500 dollars and 4 weeks times.

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>>91944609
Ready to eat is a bit more limiting outside of stuff like candy but yeah there's plenty of other stuff that's technically edible and far more shippable. Say, for example, hot sauce

I was genuinely going to try to get better at anatomy to draw Vshojos but maybe I'd like to not get blacklisted or hounded by the thread
ggs

>>91944740
Go look up a drama vid from 15th-18th of nov.

>>91944781
draw huge zen tits right now to be forgiven

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>>91944482
better take Peke to your own room because hers is a mess

>>91944894
Way too much zen art out there already.

>>91945049
Draw huge Mata tits right now to be forgiven

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>>91944896

>>91944894
I wanna draw Mouse x Donald Duck though

>>91945129
we need more Zentreya x Typhlosion tho

>>91945049
we're short on big tits ever since hime got a reduction and silver left.

>>91943609
Hope they release it within 2 days because people are actually busy on xmas… not sure what the tease was but I don’t think it’s a song though

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>>91945072
The test of a real artist.

>>91942479
>unpaid mods
we make fun of jannies because they aren't paid. They do it for free.

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nova girls will have a mahjong battle to the death

>>91945258
>we

>>91945303
yes, we.

>>91945169
Don't care if silver and her fat titties are in or out, but it is criminal how much less cock teasing she does nowadays.

>>91945267
skippa

>>91940836
I don't hate 2win word
I think both Momo and 2win acted too entitled for people they shouldn't speak off. I know credit is due, but, if you are charging monstrous amounts of money for your work, and you expect that to be the norm and worse of all, in a contest where you (as a popular artist) don't have to engage with.

It's like idk someone who's really good at a sport, enough to work with the big leagues, complains that a regional prize for a tournament is too little. It's like, brother, different ponds, you ain't a small fry

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>>91944894
Zen with smaller tits

Blah blah blah blah, I would just suck matarakan's booba.

>>91945267
They should wager their merch cuts instead.

>>91940836
momos are nijifags at heart, please understand

>>91945430
still sex

which vshojo do you watch the most?

>>91945430
hell nah

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>>91945446

>>91945494
I only watch vshojo, I just hate outrageously annoying cunts on twitter, which a lot of artists happen to me.

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>>91945563
Mainly Geega, Henya, Michi. I've pretty much stopped watching anyone else because of garbage content.

>>91944745
I was resisting pulling out the meme response, but yeah that, too.

>>91945381
I think they were a too blunt or even rude in their comments. But I also think that Mata is overreacting, and we know why. It really shouldn't be that hard to address and fix this, Mata just has PTSD.

>>91945343
I don't know about that. She struggled to find a model that didn't have her tits almost all the way out today for her sponsored stream.

>>91945267
Does anybody believe this? That only one of them will get a chibi 3D? I'm pretty sure they have all 4 of them made and ready to go and the winner will only be as such for like 5 minutes.

>>91945768
I'm talking about like, lewdcast silver. Maybe it her confidence was just better back then.

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>>91945568
hell yes

>>91945803
My guess is that they mean something outside of the 3D chibis that everyone else has. Something like Froot or Mouse's chibis.

That or you're right which was also my initial thought lol

>>91945841
When her numbers were still going up, she felt like she could be a peer with more people. It was really only once they plateaued that she got in her own head about everything.

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>>91945563
>which vshojo do you watch the most?

Henya
Although i've been watching a lot of Peke too.

>>91945841
I see what you're saying. She still gets saucy from time to time but not like she used to be, yeah.

>>91945267
>Chibi queue
We are Vijisanji more and more every day.

>>91946081
who's our Aster

>>91943409
NTA, but making the math of what Momotexx charges for full bodies, the final prize would be around
$2000+$900*11= $2000+$9900 (both on starting points meaning that extra changes would be included, meaning the mascots are an extra cost), then maybe apply what are you going to use, I don't think Mata was going to use them for it.
But for the commercial use
If Mata would have wanted to use it as a banner for Twitch, starting screen, etc, etc, it would be +100% the prize established. If it was for business cards and websites, it would be +200%, and let's say they do something that they did last year, which was selling it as merch (Mata said they weren't going to do this), that would mean a +300% price cost.

Give you a total of $47,600 dollars (as a starting point)
It is also established in the same commercial use that
>The minimum price increase 100% of the original price, meaning double the end sum. However, I reserve the right to charge more if I deem fit.

I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk, I hate the way that you dress, I hate everything

>>91946274
Highway robbery

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Here's a better question:
Let's say you get to fuck Zen. But to do that they take you to her house blindfolded, ear plugged and hand tied. You can't see, hear or touch her, you just get to fuck a hole. At the end you leave, never getting to see what she looks like or if she's a man or a woman, you only know that you got to fuck Zen.

Would you do it?

>>91946398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3FfiOGDavU

>>91946400
So don't pay it. Why does freedom only seem to be the first thing on your mind when it comes to companies exploting workers. When it goes in the other direction suddenly you're all about fairness and equity. The crazy thing is you aren't management. You literally internalized corperate proaganda as your personal philosophy.

>>91946401
This sounds like a good way to get murdered. So no

>>91946451
Bars

>>91946274
>+100% the prize established
That's only $3000 anon
Increasing by 100% is just doubling

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hehe...

Can't wait for artists to be relegated to feeding AI models. Fuck your prissy entitled asses.

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>>91946534

>>91946482
I'm not sure who you think i am. But your sperging against ghosts. I just think the prices for silly anime art are outrageous lol. Only time I've ever needed art i just buy my friend lunch and some booze and they're happy

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A would have been entry

>>91946274
Lol Vshojo is not forcing her to enter the art contest. She and 2win should just fuck off for acting entitled. At least Kevin is not greedy as these two bitches

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>>91945169
You know what we need.

>>91946803
fuck off Kevin

check lsf, otk is getting cooked.

>>91946850
Offtopic.

>>91946850
tabs

>>91946743
If that works for you personally obviously it obviously applies to anyone else and scales up to any level. That sure does make everything simplier. I wonder why people ever bothered with contracts and commisions and all that. What a silly waste of time when you had the perfect solution all along.

>>91946803
She's making clear to artists that might not have and idea what they would have to pay for assets like this at least roughtly what they're worth. Those exact artists are the ones contests like this target, to get expensive work for a fraction of what they should be paid. She could easily stay silent, because she not the one being taken advantage of. But some people have principles that move them to speak up even when it can only help a stranger. Hard to imagine for you, perhaps.

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we love artists

>>91941028
nta, but it's true tho
"hey, we need art, lets do an art contest, artists love them!" is the kind of an idea that would pop up only to people who have no no clue how it works. There is nothing wrong with art contests in general, but they can be executed very poorly and this particular scheme is very common and criticized a lot.
I had a photographer friend and I learned about a contest one time. I told her about it because I thought she might be interested, but she just laughed in my face and told me to fuck off.
You can think of this kind of thing as basically the same shit as unpaid internships.

>>91946850
Firing half their staff the week before Christmas seems like it's meant to generate bad press on purpose. Literally wait one pay period and it's not even a story. Why would they do this unless it to try and cover up something even worse?

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>>91947141
>we

This is just a repeat of the thread when the initial complaints happened where one rabid momo seethed for several hours

>>91946909
Again sperging against ghosts you autistic retard. I'm offering no solutions for anything or applying my thoughts to any level. I'm saying Momos prices are ass and "I" will never pay that.

Take your persecution complex elsewhere

>>91947196
yes, we.

>>91947204
I don't think this is a Momo this feels more like Momotex themselves or a butthurt artist.

>>91946401
No, I don't want to fuck zen for her holes I want to fuck zen for zen.

>>91947204
we do love our time loops

>>91947316
That's beautiful.

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>>91947266
that's what I said

>>91942189
>Every art contest ends up with shit like this
No, not every. Contests in which the purpose isn't to create art that will benefit the organiser are generally ok.
The problem is that most contests aren't like that because people often come up with the same idea.

>>91947227
uh oh melty

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>>91947155
>I thought she might be interested, but she just laughed in my face and told me to fuck off.
Life is pain dayo

>>91947380
The fact that managmement didn't even say anything to Matara about this is crazy too. There's no way this came out of nowhere. Did they let her do this and reap the expected response as some kind of punishment?

>>91947529
Another artist the sounds like a lovely person

Ah, there's the anti VShojo tourists. Took you a while to get here.

This loop boring af. Post JP sex.

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>>91947683
Only one exists

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>>91947683
not much of that

>>91947683
its 70% cunny

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>>91947683

>>91947155
Your friend sounds like a dick.
I have entered to photography contests as my hobby, and even had to pay fees to enter. And in most of them I didn't win anything, but they offer me free courses and even met some local photographers to talk to lol

>>91946401
I'm gonna stroke my shit to this post thanks.

Just vote with your pen instead of essaying. Sorry the extortion didn't work out and now there is no contest

>>91947804
Hobby work isn't what's being sought out by a contest like this. This was asking for professional work, with detailed specs, that would cost considerably more than even the first place prize or the entire prize pool from an established artist. It's explicity designed to get inexperienced artists to create valuable work for the chance at a tiny fraction of its worth.

I'm sure the smaller artists are very grateful to their benevolent large artists overlords from saving them from Mata's blatant slavery. Now there will be $0 or exposure for anyone. Which is the best for everyone.

Shut the fuck up about artists already

>>91947950
>detailed specs
Lmao.

What's with all the Froot antis

>>91947959
Exposure that lowers the value of what you and everyone else is your field is doing isn't worth anything, even to the one that gets it. It's taking food out of your own mouth and everyone else's, for nothing. For a penalty.

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>>91947683
playboy bunny Peke costume soon

>>91947950
>This was asking for professional work
I'm pretty sure Mata even put that Maccaroni art could be used, only no 3D or AI iirc.
I don't think it was that serious or they were looking for professionals, literally VShojo and Matara look for professionals.

I just wanted some cool/hot new group art.

>>91948207
Blame Matara for pussying out

>>91947950
If they're so inexperienced, is their work really so valuable?

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>>91948003
>specs
spexy

>>91948147
Bunny suit would slip off her smooth flat body

>>91948263
A reverse bunny girl suit then

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>>91947950
>It's explicity designed to get inexperienced artists to create valuable work for the chance at a tiny fraction of its worth.
Eughfish did this piece for free, and if this was on the contest, it's deserving of a price
It even includes the "detailed specs"

>>91948106
Too true comrade. Keep fighting that fight. Lofty ideological conquests are for more important than food on the table.

>>91948330
Nigga did it for the love of the game and that's real shit

>>91948330
My nigga eughfish is a goat. He woulda won that Matara prize.

>>91948106
Go start a fan artist guild

>>91948389
>>91948330
And these are the exact types I would commission

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Training arc to dethrone the lolibaba

>>91948263
i'm certain they can be made to fit even the flattest chest

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>>91948389
>>91948436
I do hope he gets hired to do some poster at some point
This one goes so fucking hard

>>91948247
Neeeeeeeeerd

hotaru live

>>91948017
Small cabal of very noisy fucks. They seem more sizeable than they are.

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ITS A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE
TWITCH REVERTED THE TOP TITLE BACK TO THE BOTTOM

I never did the frankerZ thing

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Still like Mata contest or not

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>>91948017
Just some dumb shit. Froot good, Froot won end of story.

>>91948591
Hate Twitter artist fags. But Froot has never made annoying post like Momo's.

>>91948436
He was actually already starting a piece when the contest got announced. There was some WIP posted somewhere.

>>91947028
I beg to differ as I don't see the previous winners like Froggy and Clickdraws complained about this. The complainers must also know that by participating you will get fame and clout using Vshojo's name which is already a big plus

>>91948670
Mine never changed in the first place. I never modified anything in FFZ either.

Hotaru is so cute bros...

>>91948017
is there a flare up on xitter?

>>91948798
Okay. Pretty sure I (you)d a tourist here. Anybody else confirm?

>>91948825
I agree. If they are not happy about the price they can just skip and not join. Maybe let smaller artist join and win

>>91948929
Love my One Piece autistic wife

>>91948929
love my cute hag wife

>>91948951
(you)d a retard at the very least.

>>91949108
Melt this [pants grab]

>>91946823
No we don't need that.

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>>91948687
Same.

>>91949096
Agreed, which is why I want to know the depth of my crimes.

>>91947950
>It's explicity designed to get inexperienced artists to create valuable work for the chance at a tiny fraction of its worth.
The problem here is that you assume malice by default. Really not beating the entitled allegations.

>>91948263
Oh good, I needed an idea of something to commission with Peke.

>>91945563
Michi!!

>>91949583
There's no way Matara doesn't have an idea that these things actually cost money. She has commisioned models and rigging and all kinds of assets and animations and projects for years. It's possible for someone very inexperienced to set up something like this. But she's just not.

I FUCKING HATE ARTISTS FUUUUUUCK I HATE THEM

>>91949583
You don't need malice to do the wrong thing. She probably thought "oh, wouldn't it be CONVENIENT if I did it this way", with no explicit intentions of screwing someone over. That's actually how a lot of abuse happens in general. Sometimes people just don't think far enough to notice the thing they're doing is at the cost of someone else.
If I didn't know about this beforehand I would most probably fall for the same trap in her place. Heck, even being aware of that I might've just not connect the dots.
What happened happened, don't go too hard on her.

Just caught up on the drama.
Can't believe Geega molested all those little boys.

Who the fuck is this dude?

>>91950217
I forgive her

>>91950217
objection, there are no little boys next to Geega

>>91950217
As the prosecutor, I would like her to demonstrate what she did on me.

>>91950217
I don't forgive her until she does the same to me

>>91950217
I'm not little or a boy but I am open to being molested

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>>91950327

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>>91950327
um

>>91946401
no normal man would be able to bust in that scenario. The hole itself doesn't feel that good. Its the overall experience.

>>91946401
There is nothing stopping someone for putting a bee's nest on my cock so no
Actually, fucking wet anthro bee holes sounds nice, brb

Vtubing would be nothing without artists

Hotaru is learning fast

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>>91951230
Too fast
Pekebros, blow up her modem

Vtubing would be nothing without programmers

Anny invented vtubing

>>91951311
Mata should hold a contest for the most undecipherable and dogshit spaghetti code. I could easily win that one.

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Kson gunpla in 6 hours

>>91951311
Based hard workers
>>91951094
Cringe doodlers

Artist would be nothing without client

I would be nothing without (you)

>>91951551
Gay

Zen gifting 50 to Hotaru

>>91951551
You should get mental help

>>91951838
hotaru and hestia getting the Zen love

>>91951475
Mata should fleshstream since momos hate artists so much

11 more days until Vshojo EN news

>>91951995
2 months

>>91951921
Good idea

>>91952022
How do you know?

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>>91952079
I'm Jeff Gunrun

>>91952154
I'd believe it

>>91951838
Final parting gift before she leaves

>>91952154
How many member for the new EN Gen?

>>91952329
Fuck you don't jinx it

>>91952329
We get it. Zen is vague posting.

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>>91953067
what did she vague post about again?

I envision Hotaru raping thousands of shotas

new thread
>>91953619
>>91953619
>>91953619

>>91953067
Considering what Mata said I think it just means Zen can't decide if she wants to leave Texas or not

>>91953671
Huh. Yeah could be it