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Why was Fauna the only member of Promise to not hit one million? I thought she was more popular than both Bae and Kronii... but she's well behind both. What gives?
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>>91948133
Lazy
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>>91948133
she stopped really trying to appeal to new people, also the stunt of saying we are never going to be friends slowed things down for a while because people are overly attached.
Personally sad to see another of the hot members leave though, going to still jerk it to her while she gets art.
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>>91948522
I mean, Kronii rejected the parasocial shit early too; she only became more otaku this year.
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>when lazy whores masked off
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>>91948133
>Kronii had huge sub boost at the start
>Bae grinded subs from Youtube Shorts streams
before Bae's Youtube Shorts streams she was the runt of CouncilRyS/Promise
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>>91948133
because she has standards and rarely plays fotm slop
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>>91948673
yeah but with fauna since she marketed herself with amsr, she attracted more crazies that get extra butt hurt by it.
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She never played to her strengths nor did she make the most of the holosphere.
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>>91948976
I knew Bae was the smart one. That makes Mumei the cute one, IRyS the sexy one, Kronii the pitiable one, and Fauna the ignored one.
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>>91949279
honestly shocked Mumei is even popular at all. I just never see her in clips or mentioned by chats at all or even here other then people sex posting.
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Her voice is a debuff for nornies.
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>>91948522
>>91949003
>also the stunt of saying we are never going to be friends slowed things down for a while because people are overly attached.
Surprisingly a discord of antis spamming the board for 12+ hours a day for week trying to manufacture a controvesy didn't actually effect any of her numbers in anyway. Objectively there was no impact, there's an entire thread tracking that shit daily. Anyone that actually believes any of that is an idiot or lying
>she stopped really trying to appeal to new people
This part is true though. Streaming by itself isn't good for subs. Same reason Kaela has the lowest subs in her gen despite generally the best numbers in ID
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>>91949522
Mumei is popular solely because of the horror atmosphere built up around her, which she has since heavily leaned into. It's a cute contrast and unique in the company.
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>>91949279
>I knew Bae was the smart one
DEAD HOURS. Bae stream with 3-6k. Youtube Shorts streams good for achieving your channel milestone but you can't get viewers from that.
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>>91948133
She never did sub farming gimmicks like vertical streams, and doesn’t release music.
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>>91949522
She's a good singer. Most of her subs came from jp side early KroMei shipping bcs most of them obsessed with MiComet.
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>>91948133
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>>91948133
Fauna never targeted the JP audience.
Started as the runt of Promise and grew solely on EN subs. Why she has the most consistent CCV.
She never really cared or talked about numbers, if so could have reached 1 million with a JP campaign and doing more shorts.
Though she has gained a lot since announcement, it would be nice hitting that goal. But she's still leaving.
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>>91949003
>Does only 2 asmrs
>Wins sexo mommy award of all time
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>>91948522
Is it really that bad? If you're oshi needs to step up and tell you that it means you are doing something wrong.
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>>91953673
>Does only 2 asmrs
can't spare money for membership?
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>>91948133
Doesn't speak a lick of JP, doesn't release lots of songs, no sub farming, doesn't play fotm games
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>>91953760
well it is partially her fault for letting it get to that point, like i've watched a lot of streamers and there's just a way to handle things to have it not reach that point. Now i do blame the community to some extent because a good amount of the vtuber community are fucked in the head. Did need to happen when it got that bad but shouldn't have gotten that bad in the first place
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>>91948133
how many bait threads about Fauna have you made in your life?
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>>91953673
yeah i dont get that one, yet for some reason she's known for asmr even though after the debut period she basically stopped it altogether. it would be like cc wining it after only doing the one
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>>91948133
>"We're not friends"
>Parasocial freaks fuck off because "muh immersion"
That's literally it.
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>>91948133
Sub count was never a big thing for her. She just kind of kept doing what she was doing and did the best out of council in all numbers except subs.
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>>91950956
>one day's worth of food
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>>91948133
She put 0 effort into growing. She's one of the most popular ENs in terms of ccv but livestreams don't grow your audience.
Music videos, shorts, appearances in concerts, large sponsorships, etc get you the attention of people who aren't aware of hololive.
Fauna only has 1 original and one cover, doesn't spam shorts, and doesn't join special events.
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>>91948673
Kronii has fat tits and an outfit made for porn.
If not for model buff she'd be behind Fauna in subs.
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>>91949600
>unique
*cough*
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>>91958324
Different approach.
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why are people so obsessed with youtube subs
completely meaningless metric which has nothing to do with actual popularity, viewerships and money earned
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>>91958454
Because the others aren't readily available.
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>>91958454
Only numberfag sisters care about subs
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>>91948133
>Ugh why does 'x' girl is more popular than my gurl, she has more subs than her ugh imma gonna cancel her
>Right, I mean she's lazy while my girl is clearly the best, why does people love that girls serve her right she's gone
>Why does people love that girl ugh this frustating, my feeling is hurt my poor poor feelings, that's imma gather the other gurls and I'm gonna
>I can't believe it why does that girls still relevant, she's gone ignore her already and worship my girl
>yeah she's gone now, good I'm not gonna talk about her and keep spam how good and big my girl subs is
>AAAAARGGGHHHH Why does she has a happy collab, why did anyone still watch her
>RIGHT, clearly this'll be the end of it, tomorrow people will realize that she's a low sub worthless bitch
>AAAAARGGGGHHH!!!! Why does this bitch still got invited, did y'all blind there's other girls with bigger subs hello~ why are you still watching her
>Y'all has no taste, my girls has way more subs it meant she's better so stop cheering for that girls and look at my girls
>AAAAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!! Why does people still care about her, look at her subs she's inferior to my girls with more subs, OPEN YOUR EYES
>This gurls didn't even do anything interesting why does people care about those low subs bitch
>WHY DID YOU SUPERCHAT HER, YOU'RE DESTINED TO SUPERCHATTING MY GIRL NOT HER
>Ugh why does my girls didn't get attention, she has more subs
> HELLO ANYONE THERE, STOP WATCHING THAT BITCH, Watch my girl please she has more subs
>Low subs bitch, my girls has more subs than you, I don't even care about you
>You guys stop watching her my girl has more subs please watch her, I'm begging you please
>hmphhhh, I don't care about her anymore
>maybe I should made thread about this feeling of mine
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>>91948133
Because she streams when everyone is either waking up or going to sleep.
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>>91948133
She's lazy, in all it's raw naked glory.
Doesn't really need more explanation.
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>>91948133
>I thought she was more popular than both Bae and Kronii
Fauna's latest outfit reveal had more viewers than Bae and Kronii's latest 3D lives btw
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>>91960097
Her 3D reveal also has the lowest vod views btw
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>>91960130
Yes, because it got DMCA'd for around a week right after the broadcast ended.
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>>91960199
>moving goalposts
well you wouldn't be a sapling otherwise
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>>91958454
Subs are the only metric Fauna wasn't performing well in, so it's the only one you will ever see shitposters and antis talk about.
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>>91948133
Fauna was the runt of Promise
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Her content is more unique and not what the standard holo vtuber audience wants.
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>>91948133
not pondering to furries or shilling off JP branch.


I.e. she has integrity.
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>>91960097
LMAO didn't know that


I bet that's why those two are sooo fucking salty towards Fauna lately
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>>91948673
And due to that, Kronii went from being project to the first Council member to be a million subs to being 2nd to Mumei who she was ahead by 100k subs for almost a year from debut.
>but Irys
Has a month headstart and had like 400k subs that didn't get culled unlike Council.
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>>91949600
She literally wants to be Haachama but EN won't let her take the limiters off.
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>>91948976
>runt of CouncilRyS
That was Sana you fucking dumb cunt
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>>91961227
Similar thing happening now with GG and Cici. They are the runts of EN sub wise, but ccv they're doing really well. Wheras Liz is doing well in subs but has the lowest ccv.
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>>91965364
From council only Sana got like 100k culled because she got it twice, but the rest only lost like 50k or 60k around that, for that time it was a lot, especially since they were starting
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>>91964464
>Fauna
>unique
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>>91965956
>From council only Sana got like 100k culled because she got it twice, but the rest only lost like 50k or 60k around that
False, they all lost around ~220k subs
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>>91953760
>>91954065
>Is it really that bad? If you're oshi needs to step up
Nah he's just lyng, none of that is true. She just answered a question from a bait SC. It's just a schizo who has spent the last 3+ years trying to anti her, with some holo antis joining in to help. It's just the only thing in that time that he's gotten gullible idiots in the community to believe so he keeps trying to spin it as hard as he can.
To be fair if people like you buy it then it worked
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>>91948133
Because she’s vegan
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>>91948673
>she only became more otaku this year
you have absolutely no idea what the word otaku means and are using it wrong, retard
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>>91969979
He’s right. Meanwhile Fauna became less of one
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>>91965587
Kek imagine losing to ERB who admits to not care about streaming as much besides karaokes (which she's consistently good at in all metrics) and zatsus
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>>91958454
YouTube shorts helps bring in new subscribers and while it might not do much in terms of actual viewers it remains the fastest way to increase subs. Fauna had zero interest in doing shorts, only did a few ASMR videos in 2024, and doesn't care if she gets to 1M subs before her graduation. Hololive benefits from that milestone so they are doing some astroturfing but with only 2 weeks left it's obvious that Fauna is already focused on Lemonleaf.
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>>91958181
Sounds based as fuck
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Man I love Fauna
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>>91958454
I only care about Fauna's subs right now because it'd be nice if she got the YouTube play button thing as a literal trophy comemorating her time as Fauna.
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>>91948133
no music, no normie appeal, no viral clips or yabs, no desire to seek the spotlight
but that just proves how worthless subs are if they're just tourists
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>>91948133
Who(re)?
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>>91948133
Content is skewed more towards a limited number of viewers who show up regularly rather than onboarding newcomers.
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>>91948133
She will hit 1 million subs.
My bots will make sure of that.
we are 25k away and the graduation should push it over 1 million.
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>>91949522
Mumei hasn’t been active much this past month, you’re projecting that backwards and trying to understand based on that.
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>>91964547
Did you forget the Perfurson stream?
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>>91979757
Mommytuber :)
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didn't mumei randomly have a massive incline because of an eceleb she happened to share a name with?
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>>91948133
1. She started as an ASMR person, and stopped. While it's understandable, since she didn't know how bad the Coomers could get when she started, she still broke off with her big selling point.

2. Fauna didn't really do big projects to try and get attention outside the Council sphere; that does draw in people at least, though I'm not sure how good it actually is at getting merch sold.

3. Fauna doesn't do things like the Subathon Circuit, which usually does a lot to drive up subs, even for people with way less viewers.

Or, basically, she hasn't been growing much because she doesn't seem to want to. Her recalcitrance is probably a big part of why Hololive ended up clashing with her, since she's not popular enough to be a cash cow like Gura, but the fanbase she has is very dedicated, but also hard to make use of on a company-wide scale.
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>>91948133
>no Covers or Orisongs
>didn't cater to JP
>her thing was ASMR that is really risky
CCV shows she was extremely popular but she lacked subs.

Mumei, Kronii and Bae were able to net some JP subs that helped get them over the 1 mill mark but Fauna just never got that bump.
It sucks because her model is great and her game streams were awesome. It also REALLY SUCKS because fir a whole Fauna was pretty much the only EN with a consistent schedule.

People forget Winter 2022 when it was pretty much Fauna, Mumei and Bae carrying the entire branch for a solid month.
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>>91964547
The integrity in question;
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>>91982347
What did she mean by this?
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>>91948133
vegans are cringe
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>>91948133
fdund
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>>91948133
Didn't stream
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>>91948133
Shes not popular and never has been. Sapplings are just an extremely loud minority.



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