I have zero trust in management but did they completely lie about the "expired work visa"? It's good that Ina was able to record her 3D live and curious to know what announcement will be made at the end of Pleides but she had to use the 3D studio in Japan. Similar to the radio silent health break in 2022 with the lost work phone we are getting fed a bunch of lies. After the recent graduations with Ame and Fauna is everyone on this board really okay with that? Culturally the Japanese think your an idiot if you actually believe a lie but don't takos ever get tired of Hololive giving us constant lies? I really want to hear the truth because Cover is giving me every reason to doubt them.
>>91999839Do you have proofs? Well the authorities don't have them too, so no one fucking cares if this live was illegally made
Well it's pretty simple, they just didn't pay her at the time.
>>92001173>Do you have proofs?https://youtu.be/UD9mef82XNs?t=330Ina told viewers that she couldn't stream or do any type of Hololive work. That her trip to Japan would only be a vacation with her mother. The "unfortunate timing" of an expired work visa would cause issues recording the Pleides 3D live that she had been making plans for since Promised Neverland. She was having to be careful with her words so I was skeptical it was because of a work visa but that was the official management excuse. Never made sense that it would delay her 3D live but not any of the World Tour concerts. Good that it got settled but really getting tired that Hololive tells us obvious lies and that so many fans never even ask for the truth.
>>91999839Jesus Christ Ina, for the love of god. Do not announce a graduation after a kino event. That is the only precious moment left for holofans in which we should not expect a graduation.
>>92004031After her "forced vacation" I am getting really suspicious about the damage control and how the other EN talents are okay with the direction of Hololive. Cover really needs to consider that fans will grow cynical if they keep being fed obvious lies. Still even with the contradictions regarding the "expired" work visa I do trust Ina when she talks about having plans for next year so I am not expecting a graduation announcements because she will be at Holofes.
>>91999839I stopped believing after her anniversary that Ina would announce her model redesign this year but maybe there will be a vague announcement made during her 3D live of her getting a new look.
>>91999839If you watched streams you'd know. She unironically talked about this.
>>92011574Do you really believe that Cover "forgot" her work visa causing a radio silent break that went on for almost 2 months? I guess that excuse is more believable than 2022 when she needed a "health" break that caused 3 months of radio silence after losing her work phone. I don't blame Ina for repeating these fake excuses since that is required by the Hololive contract but it's obvious that fishy things have been going on with management for years.
>>92013702I think it's funny that what you're trying to spin now and the thing about Ina's work phone can still both be answered by saying "watch streams"
>>91999839She's the one who announced it was a visa issue, I have a hard time believing Cover ever corroborated that. Especially since she said they told her to stay home and keep streaming and she's the one who told them no because she wanted to go to Japan.Anyway, until we see the live we can't know what the restrictions were since she said they had a hard time working around them. So there's no way it's a straightforward live or that would be completely nonsensical unless they just weren't working on paper but were in practice somehow and have to maintain kayfabe.
>>92005345What forced vacation, make up your fucking mind. You just said she was working all through the vacation and therefore she never took one. You are trying to have it both ways (that she was forced not to work and that she worked anyway with their help but that's a bad thing).
>>91999839If anyone asks, they can either say she did it before the visa issues, "she" wasn't there and skinwalkers were, or she did all the mocapping/singing in Canada
>>92015735Watch streams is a Reddit argument and I am getting tired of the lies. Hololive is going to make the EN fans cynical if they keep flat out lying to us with excuses that are obviously false. That might work in Japan with their absurd defamation laws but in the western market they are going to destroy the reputation of both the company and the talents if they keep forcing these stupid lies on them.>>92016181>What forced vacation, make up your fucking mind. You just said she was working all through the vacation and therefore she never took one.Anon the problem is that management is giving us two conflicting stories. Ina called it a forced vacation because she couldn't do any Hololive work but somehow recorded a 3D live while she was in Japan. An expired work visa isn't the worst lie we have gotten but with the recent graduations it's insulting how much Cover looks down on the EN fans.
>>92018151Redditors don't watch streams
>>92018151Ina supplied both stories and sees no conflict. You have imagined a conflict and pretended it was told to you in a dream by management.
Just trust what Ina says, simple as. No need to dramabait a talent that's as chill and comfy as Ina.
>>92016074whatever issue it was Kiara already confirmed her 3D live was also fucked because of it so Cover fucked up hard
>>91999839>How did Ina record a 3D live in Japan with an expired work visa?She got a new one? That was months back already.
>>92021415>Ina supplied both stories and sees no conflict.Ina knows that giving fans two conflicting stories about her work visa is absurd which is why this only makes sense if management forced her to say that. With the recent Hololive graduations because of disagreements there is every reason to be skeptical.>>92021471>Just trust what Ina sayshttps://youtu.be/UZRaLM7CrAg?t=5643Anon did you forget that time when Ina told viewers she didn't like revealing outfits and suddenly needed a 3 month "health" break were she went radio silent because she forgot her work phone? Cover is extremely strict with their contracts and hard to be honest with fans when that will get a talent a stealth suspension and/or termination. They have fired talents for breaking their NDA and they can fire a talent for speaking the truth.
>>92022391>They have fired talents for breaking their NDAthey are legally obligated to do this.
>>91999839What are you a cop?
>>91999839"Expired work visa" was never a management statement. There I just destroyed your whole schizo hypothesis. Now, back to the padded room again, outfit schizo, no one takes you seriously.
>>92020614This
>>91999839>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP>You wanna talk about getting fucked by management? I'll show you getting fucked by management>PLAP PLAP PLAP>Lazy bitch>Now work for free while we sort this out or we'll tell about the expired visa early>PLAP PLAP HURRGHHN SPLURT SPLURT>Whew
>>92022700No they're not.
>>91999839Let it go
>>92003398meds
>>91999839
>>92021510So you are saying Ina became a fugitive solely to mess with Kiara?
Trust Ina? Didn't she say her doctor told her she couldn't use electronics and that's why she completely disappeared for months?
whats this this weird baitsister or schizo?
