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>>92074094
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

So is Hololive good or not? I need some final answer here

>>92073310
>>92072829
I think Fauna's case is more about her having a woman moment and ragequitting rather than something over time. Nobody is 100% safe, but different talents would all have very different reasons for graduating.

Gura

I had Mocosanta and Mumei sniffing my nut. Mocosanta kissed the left one and Mumei kissed the right one.

It tickled

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meanwhile
30 on twitch so technically a 3view

>>92074018
I don't watch Bae outside of when she played Lies of P / Nier and Yakuza 0. What problems has she had with management? As far as I'm aware things seem fairly straight forward for her aside from lots of studio work (which she signs up for like IRyS who I'm more familiar with - correct me if I'm wrong.)

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>>92074094
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>187,483: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>117,184: Kanata (Hololive)
>54,401: Miko (Hololive)
>51,944: Marine (Hololive)
>48,758: Miko (Hololive)
>48,709: Pekora (Hololive)
>37,157: Pekora (Hololive)
>36,152: Noel (Hololive)
>24,812: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,938: Mumei (Hololive)
>21,603: Lamy (Hololive)
>21,329: Lui (Hololive)
>18,828: Kou (Nijisanji)
>18,607: Mio (Hololive)
>18,547: Botan (Hololive)
>17,238: Watame (Hololive)
>15,825: Fauna (Hololive)
>14,803: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>14,571: Met (VSPO)
>14,190: Okayu (Hololive)
>13,845: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)
>12,916: Noel (Hololive)
>12,726: Met (VSPO)
>12,412: Ichinose (VSPO)
>11,789: Toru (Nijisanji)
>11,288: Hajime (Hololive)
>11,266: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,923: Rion (Nijisanji)
>10,743: Ness (Nijisanji)
>10,682: Sendo (VSPO)
>10,461: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,031: Hal (Neo-Porte)

Yep that is a rock

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>>92074299
DECEMBER 2024 GOLD
>1) 117,359: Fauna (Hololive) Graduation Announcement [30]
>2) 77,038: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [32]
>3) 70,713: Mito (Nijisanji) Major Announcement [27]
>4) 63,421: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [23]
>5) 58,854: Korone (Hololive) MikKorone Important Announcement [27]
>6) 54,332: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [20]
>7) 83,539: Marine (Hololive) Sololive Day 1 [24]
>8) 100,370: Shion (Hololive) 3D Birthday LIVE [24]
>9) 59,309: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [23]
>10) 69,576: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [22]
>11) 58,039: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [19]
>12) 73,665: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3 [19]
>13) 131,397: Shiba (Nijisanji) 3D reveal [16]
>14) 106,640: Hololive (Hololive) 3D LIVE Gamers [31]
>15) 50,673: Hololive English (Hololive) Promise musical [22]
>16) 44,102: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro [25]
>17) 43,922: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro [20]
>18) 49,310: Miko (Hololive) gambling slot [19]
>19) 44,127: Miko (Hololive) gambling slot [17]
>20) 128,267: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji event Day1 free part [17]
>21) 109,749: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji event Day2 free part [27]
>22) 187,483: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji event Day3 free part [32]


> PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
12x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
7x: Kuzuha
3x: Nijisanji
2x: Marine, Miko
1x: Fauna, Mito, Korone, Shion, Shiba, Hololive, Hololive English, Pekora

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I am so happy my oshi didn't abandon me. I look forward to our 4th anniversary. I look forward to our fifth anniversary and so on while watching her streams and calling her cute and beautiful everyday!

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>>92074348
DECEMBER 2024 SILVER
>1) 79,353: Towa (Hololive) 2nd YuruHolo GodField Tournament
>2) 48,620: Suisei (Hololive) ShiraKen League + Announcement
>3) 58,773: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>4) 57,069: Miko (Hololive) Miko's room, Guest: FLOWGLOW
>5) 54,396: Marine (Hololive) Gyakutotsu before sololive
>6) 39,873: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>7) 60,908: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCR GTA 3
>8) 69,306: Marine (Hololive) Sololive DAY2 free part
>9) 49,664: Mio (Hololive) 6th anniversary totsumachi
>10) 45,158: Subaru (Hololive) MikoSuba Human Fall Flat
>11) 38,616: Fubuki (Hololive) Off-Collab w/ FuwaMoco, Subaru, Miko
>12) 44,583: Miko (Hololive) Kanji de GO!
>13) 88,384: Ayame (Hololive) 3D Birthday Live
>14) 42,905: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>15) 42,849: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>16) 42,289: Fubuki (Hololive) Unrailed 2
>17) 36,808: Miko (Hololive) WWE2K22
>18) 35,268: Noel (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #8
>19) 35,804: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #08
>20) 41,374: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #09
>21) 50,703: Towa (Hololive) holo spring game fes 2025 announcements
>22) 117,184: Kanata (Hololive) Kanaken 3D LIVE


> PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
5x: Marine
3x: Miko
2x: Kuzuha, Pekora, Fubuki, Towa
1x: Suisei, Mio, Subaru, Ayame, Noel, Kanata

Realistically, the whole "needing to live in Japan to get the most out of Hololive" really might hamper the sort of talent you can get in the future. Cover just ought to think about an NA studio or renting an existing one or they could potentially miss out on future Gura-type girls.

>>92073740
my rankings:
>100% Safe

>90% Safe
Mori
Kiara
IRyS
Bae
Biboo
FWMC

>80% Safe
Shiori
ERB
Gigi
CC
Raora

>70% Safe
Kronii
Nerissa
Ina
Mumei

>60% Safe

>50% Safe
Gura

>>92074250
CHU CHU

>>92074215
hololive good
cover bad
this was always the case

>>92074287
She wasn't very specific but she has said she's been brought to tears on multiple occasions (once even broke down on stream) from stress/frustration from dealing with them

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>>92074411
DECEMBER 2024 BRONZE
>1) 48,874: Lui (Hololive) 2nd YuruHolo GodField Tournament
>2) 42,954: Miko (Hololive) Talk stream
>3) 58,284: Rena (Nijisanji) SMC Christmas 2024
>4) 41,780: Marine (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #03
>5) 46,918: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>6) 25,967: Wen (Nijisanji) collab
>7) 54,256: Miko (Hololive) WWE2K22
>8) 65,420: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>9) 45,152: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Quest III
>10) 37,515: Suisei (Hololive) Live Tour free part
>11) 37,854: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro
>12) 32,290: Marine (Hololive) sololive outfit reveal
>13) 54,633: Pekora (Hololive) The Game Awards restream
>14) 35,370: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>15) 34,155: Noel (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #7
>16) 29,013: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji) Love advice w/Toya
>17) 24,065: Fauna (Hololive) MINECRAFT
>18) 31,821: Kanade (Hololive) 500k sub gyakutotsu
>19) 29,984: Pekora (Hololive) hololive OCG opening 12 Boxes
>20) 37,683: NeruMero (Indie) Genshin
>21) 43,815: Hinano (VSPO) Vspo popular lingo awards 2024
>22) 54,401: Miko (Hololive) horse betting 1million yen


> PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie
1x: VSPO

> PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora, Miko
2x: Kuzuha, Marine
1x: Lui, Rena, Wen, Suisei, Noel, Hoshikawa, Fauna, Kanade, NeruMero, Hinano

>>92074221
Way to out yourself, tourist

>>92074435
>they could potentially miss out on future Gura-type girls
Wouldn't that be a good thing?

>>92074221
Ever since the JP arc you could basically see the slow decline.
>Said that she was not doing JP time events anymore
>Got rid of schedules
>Stopped joining off collabs, when she was one of the most common participants before
>More frequent/longer breaks
>Fewer collabs until the months or two before the announcement
There were some better periods and events, like Fauna's Dungeon, but it's like you could see her fighting to maintain interest as the year went on.

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>>92074435
>Cover just ought to think about an NA studio
If only some go-getter already made one and was begging for support. Oh well.

>>92074287
That poster is wrong. Bae doesn't talk about her problems with management because streaming is supposed to be her happy place. The most blatant time she voiced her frustration was during the Nier watchalong where is cut part of the vod

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>>92074094
*YESTERDAY’S EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY*
>12/22 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)
3.955: Mint (Indie) | Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
2.719: Pippa (Phase-Connect) | Mabinogi
2.699: Phase Connect | Phase Connect "Christmas Carol Van"
2.231: V4Mirai | V4Mirai 3D Live Concert Day 1
1.777: Wilson (Nijisanji) | Variety Stream
1.457: Uruka (Nijisanji) | Violin Karaoke Stream
1.447: Rosemi (Nijisanji) | "Nijisanji Music Festival 2024" Watchalong
1.141: Ike (Nijisanji) | NieR: Automata
1.114: Phase Connect | Phase Weekly

would you rather
>have sex with IRyS (but Bijou has to sit and watch you every time)
or
>have sex with Bijou (but IRyS has to sit and watch you every time)

>>92074442
Mori is 100% safe, not sure why you bother to knock her down to 90%. She is completely reliant on "Mori" for her career with UMG

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I've been around since Coco's debut and I gotta say this is no contest the least talked about JP gen on this website

It's basically held up by porn of thigh girl

>>92074530
I don't think a basement studio is really going to cut it. Also, if I was a Holo girl I'd be pretty leery about needing to come into close proximity to her retarded family.

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>>92074498

>>92074435
There is never going to be another Gura-type, it was literally a result of right place, right time ( right girl ). More Fauna/FWMC/Biboo are possible though and no that does not require an NA studio, just girls like Biboo/FWMC wiling to live in JP.

>>92074435
Japanese companies are retarded and would only put those studios in LA where they will be pozzed and cost so much there is no chance it would be worth it

>>92074435
>Cover just ought to think about an NA studio
When they do its going to be near CoverUSA. Many did not like the sound of that.

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>>92074250
chuchuchu

>>92074655
covid buff

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Himemiya Rie from Phase-Connect is doing an endurance stream for 100k. She needs 2,100 new subs. In 4 hours so far she's gotten 400 subs.

>>92074530
Ame ruined that idea herself by attaching said studio to her literal crackhead trailer trash family

>>92074597
Biboo

>>92074609
She could get hit by a car or have a stroke tomorrow. Nobody is truly 100%, even if they're 99.99%

>>92074639
Ame's studio made Kiara's and Gura's first non-management birthday lives possible.
It's not a basement studio. You're retarded.
The studio was far away from her family. Double retardo.
Get off Yagoo's dick.

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>>92074572
>EN COPE GOLDS FOR DECEMBER 2024
1) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.867 - Variety Stream
2) Meloco (Nijisanji) - 4.175 - VCR GTA
3) Calli (Hololive) - 4.316 - Kuukiyomi 4
4) Dokibird (Indie) - 4.812 - Fortnite
5) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.645 - Variety Stream
6) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.024 - Payday 2 Advent Collab
7) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.471 - Payday 2
8) Calli (Hololive) - 4.922 - Just Chatting
9) Mint (Indie) - 3.011 - Merry Gear Solid: Secret Santa
10) Mint (Indie) - 4.051 - Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
11) Mint (Indie) - 4.801 - Variety Stream
12) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.192 - Overcooked 2 w/ Raora
13) Bijou (Hololive) - 3.464 - Just Chatting
14) Kiara (Hololive) - 4.555 - Duck Detective
15) Meloco (Nijisanji) - 3.242 - ASMR Stream
16) Shiori (Hololive) - 3.931 - Unarchived Karaoke Rebroadcast
17) Dokibird (Indie) - 4.013 - Variety Stream
18) Elizabeth (Hololive) - 4.854 - "The Broken Promise" Watchalong w/ Nerissa
19) Mint (Indie) - 4.037 - HoloCure
20) Mint (Indie) - 4.075 – Awaria
21) Nerissa (Hololive) – 4.682 - Mini Motorways
22) Mint (Indie) – 3,955 - Indiana Jones and the Great Circle

>DECEMBER EN COPE GOLDS PER STREAMER
6x: Mint
4x: Shiori
3x: Nerissa
2x: Calli, Meloco, Dokibird
1x: Bijou, Kiara, Elizabeth

>>92074634
To be fair, it's very good porn

>>92074221
>ragequitting
All the signs point to it being a 6-12 month plan

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>>92074435
>i can't move to Japan
Why join Hololive? You glow.

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>>92074634
Niko seems like the only actual good hire in the gen. None of them are bad but all 4 of the others are just boring, and JP has a fucking -lot- of competition.

But yes her porn is really good

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>ReGLOSS 3D Live Reach the Top
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYvks57cQA
>1st Album "ReGLOSS"
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mchguozrz3dFDusBI-DFmOiDYdKew6Hb4
>Feeling Gradation *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=u4uDiV3u-do

>セプテンバーさん / September-san (cover) *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQ-npgd2Ok
>快晴 / Kaisei (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7QcvdHk70
>青と夏 / Ao To Natsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAk_ZGfvdw
>青のすみか / Ao no Sumika (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=efF_c9D-R-A
>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0
>奏 / Kanade (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw
>My Dearest (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI
>カバー曲 / Cover Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR
>歌まとめ / All Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1

>>92074708
I know you might be a little bit slow, but if Cover gave support like she asked, things could expand and change. That's what support means you stupid fuck.

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>>92074658
>pozzed

>>92074826
I don't think she would leave her family for any level of support

>>92074808
Way to non-stream or clip watcher. I dont even recommend the catalog. Revise and try again.

>nothing more to say
>advent and justice dont know how to react
i think this only affected myth and promise, probably those gens are thinking "we passed for worse times, why now" and probably Fauna was a doomposter "nothing will change" https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DPEvF8l9LDM

Fuck kiara

>>92074435
They'd still have to travel, its not a real solution when only 1 or 2 talents would live anywhere close to the proximity, and many would still have to cross country lines. Also a studio of the quality they need to be the same as their own studio would be cost prohibitive even for them with staffing and equipment. They aren't THAT big..

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>>92074699
is she doing karaoke?

>>92074915
im trying

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>>92074435
>cover gets a NA studio
>it's smack dab in the middle of los angeles that charges more rent then their entire company in japan
>also hires the worst people imaginable to run it

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>Constantly talks about being grateful for the opportunity to be in hololive
>Has all her goals and projects outlined for 2025
>Has already begun outlining plans for 2026
>Spending the holidays with her fans
Never felt more secure in my choice

>>92074913
>and probably Fauna was a doomposter "nothing will change"
I mean, it really hasn't. Yeah they finally started doing shit like voice packs and what-not but the underlying issues were still fucking there after 3 years. Look at how all the goddamn 3D lives have been handled. Look at how Mumei complained about how rushed BD was. It feels like whenever it comes to ENs they still won't get the proper support they need.

>>92074737
You're the retarded one. Those her made when Ame was still living by herself. She has since had her family move in with her. And it is 100% a basement studio, it's in her fucking house. Unless she's done massive upgrades, it doesn't have high-spec camera or anything of that sort, doesn't have the sort of space you'd need for some things, etc.

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>>92074435
If they want to escape permission hell should they form a launch a new subsidiary or "strategic partnership" "not-buyout" things that Brave Group is doing?

>>92074435
>NA studio
never gonna work opsec wise

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>>92074990
Saplings felt rock hard secure less than 30 days ago.

>>92074803
This but Su.

>>92074988
>hires the worst people imaginable to run it
Everything we've seen from them has been good so far

>>92074609
If her sololive bombs and umg cuts her funding then she's 100% gone

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>>92074927
Yeah, 100 Christmas songs.

>>92074480
what a lying faggot she never blamed anyone for this

>>92075019
where does brave get its money

>>92074879
Do you have like zero ability to imagine things? If she had more money instead of paying for everything out of her own pocket, you know, proper investment, she could build a proper studio in the States. One that she doesn't live in.

>>92075054
Nigga it's long past the point of even being possible to consider a bomb

>>92074915
Kiara is one of the girls I wish would move to JP perma, doesnt she come off as kind of lonely and clearly wants to be around all of the other girls?

>>92074824
You know i will just hide your post instead of scrolling over it?
I bet most anon already filtered you too.

>>92075082
china

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I love them both so much

>>92075019
Cover is never going to let EN have special perks that JP doesn't get even if they fall under an EN based branch.
>>92075082
They're milking VCs

>>92075029
>Worrying about MUH OPSEC in fucking LA
that shit is way easier in america

mori's been waltzing in and out of cover's office in japan as a white girl with huge tits without ever being creepshotted

>>92074215
We love hololive, fuck cover management they need to do better

>>92074988
Pretty much as its unlikely they have the NA Studio in a different state from their Cover USA office

>>92075095
Still not sold out btw

>>92075092
No I mean like she seems to have considered her family to be a big part of the reason why she left in the first place, from what's been going on, and I think a big part of the issue was literally the family stuff
Even before she left she basically soft-quit to become the head of her family at the start of the year, like, I don't think Cover could've done anything to stop her from doing that

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>>92074990
Mfw when Shiori is the best herorine after all.

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>>92075082
Brave is run by a bunch of cryptobros, and cryptobros have been (sadly) enjoying their second golden age after trump won

>>92074922
Taking a 3-4 hour plane ride where you only change your time by three hours at most is a lot different from going to the other side of the world. Sucks for the Europeans either way I suppose.

>>92074435
>Cover just ought to think about an NA studio
After Fauna's graduation only 7 out of 17 active holoEN members will be living in NA, with 2 in Canada and the remaining 5 scattered around the US. It's unironically easier for the 3 who live in Europe to go to a centralized studio somewhere in the continent than for all NA members to go to what will inevitably be a Californian city, likely LA. I also hate this invisible pressure to move to Japan but having a studio in a continent-sized country is not the fix for that, not to mention how various EN girls will want to invite JP and ID members to their 3D streams which will make an NA studio an even bigger waste of time. The actual problem with holoEN right now is how utterly slow and bureaucratic the dialogue process between the EN members who live outside of Japan and the higher staff is and that's what Cover should focus on.

>>92075168
What do you think a bomb is?

>>92075008
Massive upgrades with whose fucking money? She already piloted a working studio that produced real actual work that generated real actual money. You expect her to have a full-fledged multimillion-dollar studio before Cover officiates anything?

>>92074990
what a cutie

>>92074988
Why do you idiots think that the guys you hire to operate the cameras are going to have a big say in content?

>>92075201
>right now is how utterly slow and bureaucratic the dialogue process between the EN members who live outside of Japan and the higher staff is and that's what Cover should focus on.
They won't. Every time something happens they say "we'll do better" and they fucking don't.

>>92075096
She was there. She missed her weird austrian lifestyle.

>>92075181
The family stuff is entirely /vt/ rrats. Everything you said is straight up /vt/ rrats.

biboo...

>>92074990
I don't watch her too much but god do I love her tits.

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>>92075265
If IRyS did her typical ass shake in front of most LA workers, they'd definitely get offended.

All it takes is a few behind the scenes workers to post some giant fucking twitlonger making up some story about how Yagoo groped them and you're deep, deep in the shit.

>>92075295
She literally posted it in her membership.

>>92075037
Saplings were retards, as many anons have said, the signs were there. 30 days ago she had already been uploading to RM and interacting with Mint and others outside.

>>92075271
Theres new EN and JP girls there now to though.

>>92074657
>Fauna/FWMC/Biboo
>Fauna

>>92075267
Well renting/building a studio in NA won't fix the actual problem either so this whole conversation is just another timeloop.

>>92075307
I love her so much, she's so retarded, I NEED to have sex with her.

>>92075331
brother you're actually WAY too deep into brainrot culture war shit if you think that
It's fucking LA. Hollywood. Did you forget about all the sex stuff they pump out there? How California is about body positivity and all that? Come on man

this boss is very bullshit lmao

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>>92074094
DECEMBER 2024 HIGHLANDER
>1) 117,359: Fauna (Hololive) Graduation Announcement
>2) 77,038: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>3) 70,713: Mito (Nijisanji) Major Announcement
>4) 57,069: Miko (Hololive) Miko's room, Guest: FLOWGLOW [S]
>5) 58,854: Korone (Hololive) MikKorone Important Announcement
>6) 39,873: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro [S]
>7) 83,539: Marine (Hololive) Sololive Day 1
>8) 100,370: Shion (Hololive) 3D Birthday LIVE
>9) 49,664: Mio (Hololive) 6th anniversary totsumachi [S]
>10) 45,158: Subaru (Hololive) MikoSuba Human Fall Flat [S]
>11) 38,616: Fubuki (Hololive) Off-Collab w/ FuwaMoco, Subaru, Miko [S]
>12) 28,137: Noel (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #5 [5th]
>13) 131,397: Shiba (Nijisanji) 3D reveal
>14) 106,640: Hololive (Hololive) 3D LIVE Gamers
>15) 50,673: Hololive English (Hololive) Promise musical
>16) 29,013: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji) Love advice w/Toya [B]
>17) 20,022: Botan (Hololive) NePoLaBo hp sponsor stream [5th]
>18) 31,821: Kanade (Hololive) 500k sub gyakutotsu [B]
>19) 25,028: Watame (Hololive) Kanji de GO! [5th]
>20) 128,267: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji event Day1 free part
>21) 50,703: Towa (Hololive) holo spring game fes 2025 announcements [S]
>22) 117,184: Kanata (Hololive) Kanaken 3D LIVE [S]

> PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>>92075331
Have you never seen a Western MV bro? Some of the shit in those would make Marine blush.

>>92075391
I'm not saying that's the answer, because it really isn't, but everything about this is just wishful thinking.

>>92074988
>tries hiring NA studio staff
>one is a troon nijisister antiholo
>one is a coc snorter /pol/fag
>other is le unity vshojotard

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>>92075436
DECEMBER 2024 HIGHLANDER
>1) 117,359: Fauna (Hololive) Graduation Announcement
>2) 77,038: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCRGTA3
>3) 70,713: Mito (Nijisanji) Major Announcement
>4) 57,069: Miko (Hololive) Miko's room, Guest: FLOWGLOW [S]
>5) 58,854: Korone (Hololive) MikKorone Important Announcement
>6) 39,873: Pekora (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro [S]
>7) 83,539: Marine (Hololive) Sololive Day 1
>8) 100,370: Shion (Hololive) 3D Birthday LIVE
>9) 49,664: Mio (Hololive) 6th anniversary totsumachi [S]
>10) 45,158: Subaru (Hololive) MikoSuba Human Fall Flat [S]
>11) 38,616: Fubuki (Hololive) Off-Collab w/ FuwaMoco, Subaru, Miko [S]
>12) 28,137: Noel (Hololive) mirishira PowerPro #5 [5th]
>13) 131,397: Shiba (Nijisanji) 3D reveal
>14) 106,640: Hololive (Hololive) 3D LIVE Gamers
>15) 50,673: Hololive English (Hololive) Promise musical
>16) 29,013: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji) Love advice w/Toya [B]
>17) 20,022: Botan (Hololive) NePoLaBo hp sponsor stream [5th]
>18) 31,821: Kanade (Hololive) 500k sub gyakutotsu [B]
>19) 25,028: Watame (Hololive) Kanji de GO! [5th]
>20) 128,267: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji event Day1 free part
>21) 50,703: Towa (Hololive) holo spring game fes 2025 announcements [S]
>22) 117,184: Kanata (Hololive) Kanaken 3D LIVE [S]

> PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>>92075406
Nah Biboo will win

Biboo literally just use some fucking ranged options it won't kill you

>>92075387
Yeah? Another Fauna is possible, I didnt say anything about how she would be as popular as Fauna. Just that her style of content can be replicated, as long as its within the confines of Hololive.

>>92074870
NTA, but isn't that the whole point of that post? That LA will infect Hololive with woke or whatever?

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>>92075482
DECEMBER 2024 holoID
>1) 3,022: Anya (A Shut-In Daughter)
>2) 7,657: Risu (M.M.M.) [2]
>3) 4,951: Reine (All You Need is Help)
>4) 3,357: Ollie (ANNIVERSARY COUNTDOWN Utawaku)
>5) 7,125: Anya (4TH ANNIVERSARY Call-In Celebration)
>6) 2,872: Kobo (Honor of Kings)
>7) 6,193: Kaela (Path of Exile 2)
>8) 2,485: Moona (HoloParade)
>9) 3,673: Anya (KUUKIYOMI 4)
>10) 5,100: Kaela (Path of Exile 2)
>11) 2,340: Moona (Path of Exile 2)
>12) 12,179: Kobo (KOBORNDAY2024) [3]
>13) 5,648: Kaela (Balatro)
>14) 5,101: Kaela (Balatro)
>15) 2,659: Kaela (Honor or Kings)
>16) 2,414: Kaela (PEJUANG SENIN)
>17) 3,778: Kaela (Crime Scene Cleaner)
>18) 3,425: Kaela (Core Keeper w/ Moona, Ollie, Iofi)
>19) 4,482: Kaela (Crime Scene Cleaner)
>20) 5,841: Kaela (Astro Bot)
>21) 4,334: Kaela (Astro Bot)
>22) 3,632: Zeta (Kinki Spiritual Affairs Bureau)

> PER STREAMER
11x: Kaela
3x: Anya
2x: Moona, Kobo
1x: Risu, Reine, Ollie, Zeta

>>92075448
i will work for them and will clean all their sweaty 3d gear with my tongue

>>92075507
>Queen's speech for Christmas Day
okay that has me actually curious

>>92075510
big weapon or nothing, pal
take it or leave it

>>92075507
>vr boxing
kino

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>>92075528
It just felt weird grouping her with biboo and fwmc

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>>92074094
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *
>12/22 TALLY:
21,938: Mumei (Hololive) | Unarchived Christmas Karaoke
15,825: Fauna (Hololive) | Silent Hill 2 Remake w/ Gigi
9,019: Ina (Hololive) | Kuukiyomi 4
8,984: FuwaMoco (Hololive) | Unarchived Karaoke
8,897: Vezalius (Nijisanji) | Outfit Debut
5,877: Cecilia (Hololive) | Omori
5,823: Nerissa (Hololive) | chewing a whole pack of gum until my jaw gives out


>EN GOLDS FOR DECEMBER 2024
1) Fauna (Hololive) - 117,359 - Important announcement (the serious kind)
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 28,655 - Skyrim
3) IRyS (Hololive) - 13,145 - Alien Isolation
4) Raora (Hololive) - 14,768 - Poppy Playtime 2 w/ Gigi
5) Fauna (Hololive) - 18,712 - LA Noire
6) Fauna (Hololive) - 17,556 - Family Feud
7) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,478 - Path of Exile 2
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,671 - Pikmin 2
9) Raora (Hololive) - 18,026 - Clubhouse Games w/ Nerissa
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 27,510 - Minecraft
11) Mori (Hololive) - 13,493 - Path of Exile 2
12) Baelz (Hololive) - 19,474 - 1M Subs Endurance Karaoke
13) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,742 - Silent Hill 2 w/ Gigi
14) Fauna (Hololive) - 19,049 - Unarchived Karaoke
15) Hololive English (Hololive) - 50,673 - The Broken Promise
16) Bijou (Hololive) - 19,058 - Hitman w/ Fauna
17) Fauna (Hololive) - 24,065 - Minecraft
18) Ina (Hololive) - 17,485 - Return Chat
19) Fauna (Hololive) - 26,105 - DOTA 2 w/ Promise
20) Cecilia (Hololive) - 26,882 - Christmas Event
21) Hololive English (Hololive) 25,256 - HoloHolidays 3D Stream
22) Mumei (Hololive) - 21,938 - Unarchived Christmas Karaoke

>>92075557
How long do you think she'll last?

>>92075547
the boiz too?

>>92075037
30 days ago fauna was starting rm activity (dismissed as nothingburgers at the time) and had no plans for the future that spanned years

>>92075339
I don't know what you think you saw, but if you believe what you believe, you're wrong. Even the bad, crackhead family stuff. She debuted her family that she lives with. They're fine. They're happy together.
Also the reason A-chan left isn't because she needed to take care of her dying grandfather's convenience store in some small Japanese town in the forest. Just putting another rrat to rest.

>>92075579
She got too cocky.

>>92075507
OCTAVIO RADIO GUEST DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>92075528
You are not going to find another Fauna who also wants to move and live in Japan. It's not going to fucking happen.

>>92075531
More of a "why are you using that lingo so casually" kind of thing, I imagine, dude basically asked "why are you talking like the people you so dislike"

>>92075226
You're the one implying that Ame's studio could work as an NA Cover studio when it clearly isn't up to that level. And why the fuck would they give millions of dollars to a girl who can't even keep her PCs working consistently to improve it rather than hiring real professionals?

>>92075584
I guess Im just going by numbers/popularity within the overall Holo scene. Dont read to much into it.

>>92074554
I was considering membering her with Fauna now leaving because her work ethic and enthusiasm for getting into things is so infectious. Might need to hold off bit though because this past month has been pretty brutal.
Best of luck with the rrat and hope things work out with management for her

t. IRyStocrat from debut that feels your pain

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>>92075618
>PER COMPANY
22x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
10x: Fauna
2x: Bijou, Hololive English, Raora
1x: Baelz, Cecilia, Ina, IRyS, Mori, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
62p: Fauna
22p: Bijou
17p: Raora
16p: Mori
12p: Baelz
10p: Gigi, Hololive English
9p: Ina
8p: Cecilia, IRyS
7p: Elizabeth
5p: Mumei
4p: Kiara
3p: Shu
2p: Shiori
1p: Dooby, Filian, Kronii

>>92075507
Not gonna watch this whore

>>92074597
biboo, Irys would get horny enough to join in on her own.

>>92075631
*excited monkey noises* yes

>>92075673
>Ame's studio could work as an NA Cover studio
Yes, it 100% could, if Cover invested in it.

biboo...

>>92075633
Literally everything I know about Ame's family came from Ame herself and her stories on stream.
You can be happy on camera and still be fucking retarded in real life. These aren't conflicting things. Pigs are happiest in the sty and all that.

>>92075507
is the radio thing form holostars? idk their names

>>92075673
>rather than hiring real professionals
How many lives have been postponed again? Professionals. That's funny.

>>92075507
>rosarians are getting warm chicken for christmas

>>92075406
I beat this shit first try because I did a sword and board run on my first playthrough and happened to craft the Greatshield of Artorias right before the DLC. First tried everything except Kalamet. That shield is the only thing more broken than poise in PvE.

>>92075655
Isn't it the same thing as using the word "woke", considering the word's origins?

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>>92075654
You dont have to get so angry anon, the possibility is there. You dont think there's another ultra weeb or gamer that also has a very pleasant voice and has no problem living in Japan out there?

Biboo got Bibodied so hard that the game decided to take away controller privileges from her

>>92075443
Maybe, but we did see them completely revamping holoEN's leadership back in late 2022 after ometroon's bullshit didn't work and how other failed projects were shelved after fan outcry and just recently them finally giving up with their homo retardation. You're not wrong to think that Cover might never give a fuck about this and just let members unwilling to accept the dichotomy of "moving to Japan or dealing with slow ass management" graduate but I remember a very similar defeatist mentality that permeated this thread back in late 2022/early 2023 so I don't think things will never change.

>>92075201
>and that's what Cover should focus on
This. Fucking 2022 Gura 3D Live created in a cave using a box of scrap mocks professional idols with a decade's worth of experience like FWMC. Let the shark cook Cover.

>>92075738
cover never asked her to make a studio in the first place
obviously they prefer for talent to visit japan couple times a year

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Sex sex sex

>>92075633
>my rrat is right, your rrat is wrong

>>92074913
>>92075002
I'm happy for advent and justice being slightly more smooth (Casual outfits when!?) But myth/promise really seem to be getting the ass end of everything.

>>92075845
You realize you're putting your faith in a 51-year-old that's obsessed with and poured millions of dollars into making a Z-tier Genshit clone, right?

>>92075507
Setting aside the homo collab, Queen’s Speech and VR Boxing both sound mildly interesting. Has she mentioned any interest in boxing before?

>>92075959
i would do the same

>>92075842
not the original anon, but the people throwing that kind of stuff around as lingo are just, they're way more deep into culture war shit than even the crowd that talks about "woke" and all that. Since the term is basically like, a niche ass LGBT term for people who chase STDs, talking about how they got "pozzed" as in "HIV Positive infection."
It's just showing the hand that you're into the really fucking weird subculture shit and obsess about it to a level where it comes into your vocabulary on the regular, I guess.

>>92074094
>>92074169
Holy sex

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>>92075947
WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING DRESSED UP AS MOCOCO, HAEH???

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>>92074442
Nerissa is a total wildcard. she went menhera in japan over food almost as much as fauna did and the two things anchoring her to hololive are kiara and jailbirds, but kiara has proven she has no qualms with keeping in touch with people outside of hololive and jailbirds will follow her wherever. I feel she's one horrendous meltdown away from quiet quitting or seriously contemplating graduation.

>Biboo got invaded
>the invader came up to her, put his sword away, then punched her square in the nose bare handed
>is continuously trying to fist her all the way to the boss room

>>92075947
Twins will have almost similar breast sizes. Mococo must have been a inferior doppelganger.

mocosanta sniffasniffa my nutsack

>>92075995
Obviously they're a /pol/tard, but saying "erm, actually that's something ''''''they'''''' say" doesn't introduce any new information to them.

>>92076068
Has she talked at all about Fauna's graduation

>>92076068
>and jailbirds will follow her wherever
Don't jailbirds constantly shit on her?

Man, Cover has difficulty to hire people to manage their new big studio and people here want another studio but in US. Can they even hire professional for US studio?

>>92075995
Pozzed is literally the same as woke, a word used by a set of people then taken to mean the opposite by those people's antis.
Pol unicorns.

>>92075738
Yep, a big company is going to throw millions of dollars at a studio that a flakey girl put together with consumer-grade equipment in her house. Might as well hire that camwhore from VShojo instead since her setup is better than Ame's. You must be a teakek to be this delusional.

>>92076076
Uo ToT

>>92076068
I think you're overestimating her fanbase loyalty, her splits just a bunch of antis.

if you're talking about the loud-ass twitter lesbians who talk about her, they barely even watch streams

>>92076068
Nah, your just reading into the whole "wet cat" meme to much. Its just her thing. I honestly dont see any of Advent/Justice (3/3) going anywhere anytime soon, 5 years min.

>>92075969
No she has not

>>92076068
That's why she's the lowest in Advent and lower than all of Justice despite Advent and Justice joining after what "HoloEN" means was fully established, plus each gen being given more training/resources and meeting in person pre-debut.

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>>92076131
Not publicly at least don't have her membership

>>92076166
>US
>professional
can they afford it? can YOU afford it?

>>92075557
>>92075969
What game is "VR Boxing" referring to?

>>92076068
Big difference is that Nerissa bounced right back from her Japan arc, and Fauna never did. They're also letting her do EN song covers now. Speaking of which, as a singer she can get more out of Hololive than Fauna anyway.

>>92075912
>cover never asked her to make a studio in the first place
And Cover never asked her to do VRChat Halloween streams, from which Cover now has made plushies of the Halloween costume designs and sells them, including Dinogura. And Cover never asked her to push Smol Ame, which Cover debuted as the first, or one of the first, live-sized mascots on the expo floor.
Do you seriously just want HoloEN to be filled with people that will only ever do what Cover asks them to do?
>obviously they prefer for talent to visit japan couple times a year
If the only way you can get full support from Cover is that you must physically exist in Japan, then the consequences are what they are.

>>92076237
Shes the lowest in Advent because shes the least gamer, yes even below FWMC, they can at least go hard in retro games.

>>92075406
Summoning sif make sit a lot easier, since he's so tanky and Manus is pretty relentless one on one.
Figuring out how to dodge all the spells can be a little rough, but once you figure it out it's very consistant.
Fought him like 10 times in a randomizer run I overtuned

>>92076166
>Can they even hire professional for US studio
no, they would get a year or 2 of experience then they would look for a higher paying job if they dont get fired for stealing the girls pants from the locker room first

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>>92074634
Su gets nice ones too

>>92075038
>>92076387
Shit taste

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When an American company Nijisanjis themselves, can they come back from the crisis?

>>92076370
>her throne
nerissa has a throne?

>>92074634
Suu already got the mindshare from all the older gens from the gambling stream the other day. Su basically won.

>>92076345
I just think it's weird to expect cover to support a talent made NA "studio"
>If the only way you can get full support from Cover is that you must physically exist in Japan, then the consequences are what they are.
well they are a bunch of incompetent faggots but that's not news

>>92076166
There are way more people in the US that know how to do mocap and similar stuff than there are in Japan.

>>92076104
Diet/behavior and epigenetic factors matter.

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>>92076213
I'd give you 2 years but 5 years min is too much. CCGG are actually smart and mature women, they know their self-worth and have actual work experience so they know if stuff is alright or if they're being taken advantage of. I'm not saying they'll graduate but I do think they're not afraid of graduating if there's a lot of friction and issues in a few years

>>92076224
That’s a shame. Would have been interesting to hear a Hololive member rant about the Fury/Usyk rematch.

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>>92076181
My bad. Of course Cover is impeccable in their investment strategies and could never take such a risk as investing in one of their own talents.

>>92076104
or Fuwawa is just fat

>>92075002
>Look at how Mumei complained about how rushed BD was
Why did nobody else say this then?

>>92076462
She got the Biboo buff, I think they were one of the only ones that communicated on twitter right after debut.

>>92076181
>>92076539
ladies, ladies, you're BOTH right, just settle it at that, Ame's a flake and Cover's no better

>>92076539
>loses his arguments
>immediately shits on Cover
you glow.

>>92076577
Tongue my anus.

>>92076549
BD's best venue option was half the size of the previous year and that should tell you everything about how poorly planned the event was

>>92076350
Fuwamoco barely play non-VN retro games anymore, nowadays they just boot up DKC2 every month or two and spend 2 hours getting through one level, half of which is spent farming lives.

>>92076213
>Justice (3/3)
ERB isn't going anywhere either. She loves what she does in Hololive, even if it looks different from the rest of HoloEN

>>92076553
biboo and su have the same pappa so biboo is su's older sister

>>92076549
NTA but I would assume it's because no one else put a song that wasn't released yet on their setlist

>>92076549
>Why did nobody else say this then?
Because no one else got fucked over with the MCs or had their fucking orisong have the most ill-fitting choreo because of how shitilly planned it was.

>>92076593
Are you confused? The very beginning of this chain is shitting on Cover, because they deserve it for mismanaging EN.

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>>92076553
New cunny pairing are always great to see respectfully from a distance. T0T

>>92076613
Yeah I dont discount that, I just dont like her due to the homo shit and randomly orbiting around no name indie shitters. She doesnt come off as part of Holo at all.

>>92076641
>>92076638
That makes it sound like it wasn't BD itself that was rushed, but rather that the inclusion of It's Not A Phase was rushed.

>>92076549
You will notice that the only fanbases that shit on breaking dimensions are the ones who's oshi didn't physically go to new york while everyone else considers it absolute kino

>entertaining the retard that thinks everything is better if it's in the west

>>92076720
>That makes it sound like it wasn't BD itself that was rushed
Just go fucking listen to her talk about it you moron. It's a public stream.

>>92076539
Even if Cover decided to use Watson's studio for most of holoEN it's less expensive to travel to Japan and stay there for a few weeks than to go to wherever the fuck she lives only to use her obviously worse studio.

>>92076593
its just ame studio schizo just ignore it

Bottom line is cover doesn't have to build a new studio in the US if they don't want to. Either you go to japan a couple times year and knock out as much work as you possibly can, or you don't get included. There's the door if you don't like it. (unless you're gura) It's bullshit, but that's how it is.

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>>92076276
chuchuchu

>>92076736
Who didn't go besides Fauna and Mumei? I can't remember if Gura went or not

>>92076720
You should neck yourself for being a giant faggot

>>92076651
>Shinkiro
Same

>>92076651
translate it

>>92076651
Where did you get this from

>>92076655
>>92076633
It would make for a cute collab even as a one off.

>>92076804
>>92076752
Share it please

>>92076775
yep

>>92076549
Mumei complained because the choreography for It’s Not a Phase didn’t fit the song and they didn’t have time to fix it. Rushed productions aren’t a problem if you get it right on the first try. For Mumei and Fauna, they didn’t.
Having said that, that anon is being disingenuous by trying to portray that as part of some endemic problem that will never be fixed instead of being specific to that production, with Mumei saying they wouldn’t be making the same mistake next time.

>>92075866
>but I remember a very similar defeatist mentality that permeated this thread back in late 2022/early 2023 so I don't think things will never change.
They have talked quite a few times about trying to improve things for overseas members this year, and how important overseas expansion is.
I know doomposters and shitposter will try to derail this, but having two big EN members leave in relatively quick succession is going to spook them and have some of the higher ups asking questions. Especially seeing what happened with Niji this year.
I'm sure they will be making changes trying to improve things. Whether that will be noticeable from our perspective is a different matter

>>92076769
Is there really a schizo who simps for Ame's home studio? That's got to be the weirdest one yet.

>>92076775
>waant to go to Japan to get shit done
>they fuck up my Visa
Yeah totally a-ok bro

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>>92076810

>>92076775
I don't understand how this is even a problem... How the fuck one can join hololive without understanding that you'd need to visit japan or deal with jp autism?

Cover's incompetence is the catalyst for the rise of non-Hololive vtubers, so I fully encourage them to continue fucking up

>>92076775
Yeah, let's forget how over half of EN doesn't live in the US and how it's way more expensive to travel and stay there than it is to do the same in Japan especially right now with the weak yen.

>>92076599
Nah. That one doesn't make sense, BD venue was chosen because of the location and the atmosphere, doing a vtuber concert in a classy theater is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

I think the myth/promise and advent/justice divide in this studio stuff may exist because of expectations, honestly.
Like, Advent and Justice seem to have been recruited with the expectation of the whole "Japan or a few flights a year" mentality baked in, whereas Promise and Myth were recruited during the COVID years and had hoped that it would be a temporary thing, only to realize that it was gonna be that way for however long they aren't in Japan anyways.

>>92076879
yes it comes in here talking about investing millions in a girls spare bedroom talking about the unlimited possibilities that lie in her bedroom

>>92076880
and yet ina immediately started glazing management after her comeback

>>92074597
Mori, the other two can watch

Is Biboo the strongest in her gen now?

>>92076736
Sorry to not play into your fake fanbase wars, but people aren’t actually shitting on the concert here.

>>92076895
Advent and Justice joined after that precedent was established. Myth and Promise joined before.

>>92076943
>talking about the unlimited possibilities that lie in her bedroom
well when you put it like that now I'm interested

>>92076896
There is no rise shitpost-chama, best you can hope for is begging for Holo's graduating like you do on a daily basis and keeping consistently streaming as an indie.

>>92076775
If Brave can have non-JP studio for their stable of unknown tiny corpo groups, I don't see why Cover can't have one.

>>92076833
Holoplus but people posted it in this tweet quote
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1871012853920170186
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1871012853920170186
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1871012853920170186

>>92076323
>Nerissa bounced right back from her Japan arc, and Fauna never did
Fauna got COVID immediatly afterwards, then again not too long after. Things really went to shit for her last half of 2023

>>92076539
HoloEarth will unironically be a better investment than spending money on a talent-made studio once it's out as long as Hololive remains popular by then.

>>92076651
This is the thing that everybody but Suisei is part of, right? So everyone will participate in at least one song?

>>92077022
How is holoplus now? Am I missing out on not having it? Last time it was a lawless jungle from what I’ve seen

>>92076775
if they built a NA studio "move to japan or gttfo" would just become "move to california or gtfo"

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>>92076775
>It's bullshit, but that's how it is.
That line of thought is stupid, because hololive's whole revenue is dependent on a few dozen key revenue generating employees who are irreplaceable. it's imperative that hololive keeps the talent happy because if they're unhappy and decide to graduate you're now stuck with a worthless IP and no guarantee the next wave of talents will pull in the same revenue. They're essentially virtual rockstars, yeah they might have weird or dumb requests but you put up with it as long as they're not too outlandish because they're the ones making you money.

>>92076943
I see what you did there.

>>92076789
It was literally just fauna, mumei, and gura. Every other girl has talked about what a wonderful experience it was and have high hopes for the next concert

>>92076651
>POKE DANCE
Isn't this only 90 second song? What the fuck are they doing

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>>92076549
>Why did nobody else say this then?
stupid gorilla nigger

>>92077109
Yes. They confirmed 60 participants and there are currently 61 holomem with 3D.

>>92076539
holoearth should have been a social media game with concerts and minigames, not a big ass mmo

>>92077158
Who else had that specific complaint about BD?

>>92075331
HAVE YOU SEEN THE FUCKING RAP MVs BEING PUT OUT??????? basically >>92075403
I get California BAD but please think about what you're typing before posting

>>92077036
Her getting COVID twice wasn't Cover's fault, I don't see how it would lead to her graduation.

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>>92077125
Weird, this "irreplaceable" person's gone in two weeks.

>Building another studio in the West when Cover can't even support their BIGGEST STUDIO IN JAPAN.

>>92077156
More talents means less air time

>>92077125
The girls literally don't matter. Nothing changed when Aqua left. Nothing changed when Ame left. Nothing will change when Chloe and Fauna leave. They are all literally negligible.

>>92076930
I think some of the girls thought going to japan would be the greatest thing ever because they are weebs after all. When they got there, they found out it's a bizarro world they hate being in and cant communicate properly in and never wanted to go back to.

>>92076492
CC and GG knew what the job would entail when they joined unlike Myth/Council who joined during Covid. Seeing how CC is taking dance and singing lessons I think she's pretty serious on staying for a while.

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hololive won btw

>>92076977
I blame Gura, she basically left her genmates to die post-covid. She didn't campaign anything for EN compared to Ame and Shiori despite wielding the most power in the company as an EN. She's basically management's pet shark at this point.

>>92077259
Who other than Fauna has expressed issues with never wanting to go back to Japan?
>Nerissa
Is okay with shorter visits

>>92077218
Just saying one of the reasons why she didn't bounce back right away

>>92077115
I can't tell, it's not available in my country. But I don't see anyone talking about it /here/, so I guess it's better now

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>>92077211
the person I posted, stupid gorilla nigger
Mori was explicit about BD venue being smaller being related to availability and that Cover was slow on the draw, and is currently pestering them constantly to start into looking at stadium level locations earlier in the year
her own sololive is getting fucked over by similar disorganization, being stuck in a middle of a week right before Fes

>>92077250
They don't have to limit themselves to 1hr. As long as they time the countdown perfectly, then they can still continue the show

>>92076976
I don't fucking believe for a second that promise had no idea what they are joining. Myth maybe. But even if you are unsure about the details this whole 3D performance shit was already a part of how hololive operates. Getting 3D was on their list from the start too.

>>92077302
>Who other than Fauna has expressed issues with never wanting to go back to Japan?
Fauna has LITERALLY never stated she never wanted to go back. She said she didn't want to do AN EXTENDED STAY. There's a fucking difference. If she didn't ever want to go back she wouldn't talk about how she wasts to fucking go back.

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Why are nijisisters like this?

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>>92077115
It's painfully boring now. Way less posts/replies, reddit-tier memes, no one tries to sneak in porn/drama.

It's basically just a holo ad platform now.

>>92077302
Fauna is already wanting to go back. The problem as always is that it's literally a work trip, and Mumei expressed today how it leaves you exhausted afterwards and stressed beforehand, regardless of how fun the actual trip is

>>92077359
I mean you can forget how things were but Promise 100% debuted while Japan was literally going
>NO ONE IS ALLOWED IN THIS FUCKING COUNTRY OR WE ALL DIE TOGETHER, YOU FUCKING HEAR ME

>>92076886
My favorite song, chaos boogie

>>92077258
They don't matter until they do, and you don't want to find out where that line is.

>>92077354
Last year's show we had the 3 hoshimatic performances to start the year

>>92076307
The game is called Thrill of the Fight, it is quite literally just boxing in VR. You get matched with other people and then box

>>92076886
>omnidirectional beautiful girl
n-nani?

>>92077372
Wtf I love Vedal now.

>>92077115
It's basically a better version of the HoloEN Twitter where you can filter out the homos

>>92076886
It's "Japanese and Hololive popular songs of the year" setlist

>>92077372
WTF I LOVE NEURO NOW

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>>92077377
Like how it was supposed to be since the fucking beginning? Or do you actually want subhumans to spam dox and shill the homos on it?

>>92077302
>Who other than Fauna has expressed issues with never wanting to go back to Japan?
This is still a pure threadreading invention.
She said a while ago she'd only go back for a month max next time. She keeps talking about visiting Japan again in most of her recent streams.

>>92077011
VC money FTW

>>92077487
Has IRyS ever made a statement about preferring Japan over America? Because from what I understand she doesn't think poorly of America or anything

>>92077395
I literally don't see how the fuck is it relevant? You think they were under an impression that this will be a permanent state of things or something?
A bunch of them said they want 3D and perform together with senpai. Nobody is joining hololive thinking they'll be normal streamers

>>92077496
Nta, I wouldn't be surprised if she times her trips for when certain girls are in Japan too. Wouldn't be surprised if she's there when GG or Nerissa are there

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>>92077258
the 2008 financial collapse was years in the making but didn't suddenly explode until lehman brothers collapsed. fauna was seemingly normal and happy until suddenly she started posting on her RM and then announced graduation. zaion was terminated without incident but then selen was terminated and nijiEN imploded and collapsed. past nothingburgers are not indicative of the future.

>>92077487
BASED TIERLIST.

>>92077487
Rissa and Fauna there seem excessive, otherwise correct?

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>>92077549
"prefer" does not mean you "hate" the other option

>>92077550
>I literally don't see how the fuck is it relevant?
You don't think the girls who joined after Myth were influenced by what kind of content Myth could put out at the time, expecting that to be the norm?

>>92077550
NTA, but it's possible that a girl might have joined knowing what to expect but ended up not liking it when she actually had to go through with it. Happens sometimes.

>>92077585
I mostly just was wondering since, while thinking about that, I realized I don't hear her talk about America much at all outside of some childhood stories like hanging out at the local gamestop as a friendless loser girl (making me amazed that people like her actually did exist back when I was a kid) or the like.

>>92077583
>seem excessive
>when the list includes killing innocents

>>92077302
Doubt any are going to really openly hate on japan, but I mean going there isn't a vacation. They work your ass off for weeks and I imagine afterwards you are too tired and homesick to want to stay any longer.

>>92077259
Going to Japan is great if you are a tourist. It's not great if you go to Japan to work

>>92077676
The girls who have JP girls as their oshi all knew what to expect

>>92077302
chloe
after she stayed at my masion

>>92077550
It’s really stupid when this was part of Sana’s list of goals in her debut stream and Mumei talked in early 2022 about how she had conversations with management about planning her eventual trips to not interfere with her classes.

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>>92077487
I love them so much

>>92077664
>trying to force negligible meme to Hololive
Shitposters just throw anything shit about Nijisanji to Hololive

>>92077705
Hey, it was wartime.

>>92077745
That's not something exclusive to Japan tho.

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...do you guys think I could get IRyS interested in Warframe if she knew about the twink Uldren Sov and his soft incest stuff