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The reason why holoEN fell off is because of us(holoENfans). We keep accusing our oshis in yt comments for not streaming enough. Now it’s all fall a part because of us.
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>>92541901
You are right they should not stream. We should get rid of that expectation. Hololive is an idol company after all.
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ESLs should never post again
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>Thousands of superchatters
I sleep
>Thousands of paying members
I sleep
>A dozen of non-paying g(r)ays
WHY DON'T YOU LOVE ME!?
The reason why they were fated to fail is because they are, indeed, women. Sooner or later, they'll hear the call of the Womma Moment, and burn their lives down for no reason. Such is life.
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>>92541901
>HoloEN
>Fell off
HoloEN is better than ever. Chumkeks projecting as usual.
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>>92541901
sorry Myth you broke your Promise it's the Advent of Justice now
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>>92546121
no its fucking not, newfags

You havent been here prior to Advent debut.
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>>92546547
There was a stretch of a year where council and Myth were barely doing anything with each other. Now we have great events every other week and people who want to put effort into getting others together, wether it be gen unity like Advent or EN unity like Justice.
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>>92546121
>>92546547
It absolutely is the best it's ever been and also who cares how this board was at a certain point in history.
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>>92541901
>We
>Us
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>>92546121
Enjoy it while it lasts. Soon enough your oshi will be burnt out and hollow just like myth and council.
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>>92546878
Fuck that sounds like bad management...
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>>92546878
Except there's multiple Myth members and Promise members who aren't burnt out and continue to stream a decent amount while still taking on extra shit constantly, you just probably hate all of them.
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>>92546951
NTA but the number of burnt out members while not the majority is still kinda alarmingly high
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>>92546878
Something about the 1st year anniversary 3d streams breaks holoen members. It fucks up their normal schedule so bad that it's hard to return. I think biboo was aware of this somehow and tried to keep streaming at all costs.
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>>92548660
It's usually their first 'big' event that requires them to travel for a good amount of time if they don't live in Japan. Add in that Cover probably has them record a bunch of extra shit during that time, and that some people just aren't cut out for or interested in working tons of hours at the studio and then coming home to stream on top of it, and it's pretty clear to see why it'd really destroy streaming hours for some.
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>>92546547
I've been /here/ since 2020 cumbud, it absolutely is better now.

Actually kys
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>>92546951
There's a reason why some HoloEN members move to Japan, figure out the rest yourself.
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Hello, fellow Hololive fans! It's cool that so many of us feel the same way. I also think my favorite liver gura fell off
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>>92553083
Well I'm a fan of Advent and Justice and I think the new holos are better than the old holos. Also I hate the fanbases of other hologirls. Did I mention that I'm a REAL Hololive fan, btw?
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>>92546121
Agreed.
Some myth and council fans might disagree because their oshis are gone but personal biases aside things are looking up.
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>>92553288
Indeed. I think the different Hololive fanbases should fight about who the better Holo is to prove that they're real Hololive fans and definitely not falseflagging faggots
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>>92546596
When “great” events happen every week, you basically have admitted that you continue to lower your expectations because you’re going to be disappointed.
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>>92553083
Dude you have to get over the fact that it is not 2021 anymore and there are people to who gura means little to nothing. I am one of those people. I get that she's quite big and I bet back then it felt like she was the center of the vtubing universe but I'm here for justice.
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>>92553083
Nah, advent and justice are better than myth or council ever was. Gura did some good stuff in 2021 but its 2024 now. Move on.
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I tried watching early Holo en because the hype was fucking huge. I found that I was not seeing what other people were seeing. I found it incredibly boring they didn't have a comedian like Miko or Korone.

Justice is my first real entry into en.
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>>92546547
i was there during the red superchat incident
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>>92541901
In another time line. Gura would be the queen of twitch because of her fanbase allowing react slop. Hololive EN would be completely different.
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>>92546878
By which time I shall have coomed, and you shall be dead.
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>>92541901
No, instead of blaming Gura and the rest of the top En vtubers, we should have blamed Hololive.

Gura was becoming the face of Hololive worldwide at one point, she even managed to capture a big chunk of the Japanese audience, but Management did not like this and decided to nerf the EN branch and Gura because the racist fucks at Hololive did not want a an English-speaking vtuber be the face of the company, then pekora peaked and dominated Japan, but they sacrificed worldwide appeal by letting Gura fumble. now Gura is slowly fading away from mainstream attention while other vtubers steal the spot she failed to fill because of Hololive racism.

None of you fuckers will ever convince me Gura nerfed her own schedule by her own volition, she was forced by management you blind retards JESUS FUCK I hate this fandom, fucking corporate bootlicking idiots.
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>>92555977
You're new. Trinity posting was insanity. You think the shit ERB gets from fags here all day is bad, imagine it fully spilling into stream chats all the time. There were a vocal minority of people who bitched any and every time Mori or Kiara collabed with the rest of Myth, and then the rest of promise.
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>>92558598
A bit schizo, but it isn't beyond belief that they pushed Gura to do streams with the heavy hitters when Myth in general was absolutely smashing most of JP in terms of CCV. Add in that there was on stream whining and complaining from JP members about EN's popularity and the attempts to leech the EN audience as soon as they saw it was a huge market. Just remember the EN girls were told to expect to be another ID gen 1.
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>>92548660
>Something about the 1st year anniversary 3d streams breaks holoen members. It fucks up their normal schedule so bad that it's hard to return.
There was stuff going on behind the scenes with management in 2022 that was causing problems only a few months after Council debuted. That was long before any of them had their 3D showcase and the constant traveling to Japan. That may have been the main issue for Fauna but have the feeling there were other issues for Sana, Ina, Gura, Ame, Kronii, Mumei, etc...
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>>92541901
The reason EN fell off is because fucking COVER CORP won't just let them fucking stream. I fucking hate this corp. And all corps at this fucking point.
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>>92558598
no you can blame chumbuds. Gura was worn out but still wanted to stream and one of the more comfier past times she has done was react streaming.
The fan base turned on her before she did.
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>>92559701
React content is lazy and gets your channel striked
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>>92559561
How do you explain all the other members that stream regularly and frequently?
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>>92560035
It's not even the laziness or the strikes. It's just garbage content. Literally just chatting about anything streams would be better content.
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>>92541901
Stream you lazy bitch
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>>92560826
Better at dealing with the burnout I guess. But have you seen how haggered and worn out Calli and Una are recently?
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>>92560826
>mori.
openly dead inside, not even the same person. Completely changed herself from debut to be a streamer and now makes sloppa music at managements behest.
>ina.
Constantly getting screwed over by the company despite bending over backwards for them, cracks starting to show.
>Kiara.
Doing the best becuase she was made for this jap corpo shit.
>Gura.
lol.
Ame.
dead.
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>>92558836
There are Japs that hate En vtubers with a passion I agree, but is a minuscule amount. The racist that put a complete halt on Gura's career work in Hololive management.

This fanbase is so stupid, chumbuds really could not see Gura's plead for help like how Asians fans can see when their idol are pleading for help, but is too late, they succeded and Gura's momentum will never hit the real potential it had
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>>92561919
When she talked back to that guy that donated, that was the day the Japanese man give the gringa a hard slap in the face and removed her Mojo, from a tomboish strong girl, to a timid weirdo that somehow gained more popularity, but at the cost of the persona she was selling at first.
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>>92541901
But I don't accuse my oshi of this, because she actually streams enough.
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>>92561919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUfXTnkc9yA



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