Nagi Maid EditionWelcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.Mouse, Michi, Nagi, and Hotaru are live. Ignore and report bait or whatever is usually at the end of the paragraph. VShojo is:Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFrootGEEGA - https://www.twitch.tv/geega | https://www.youtube.com/@GEEGAHaruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribuHenya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegeniusHestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappinessHime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaruKson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIRKuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KUROMata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan | https://www.youtube.com/@MataraKanMel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelodyMichi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochieveeMouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMousePartyNagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaiedPeke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeakZen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya | https://www.youtube.com/@zentreyaOfficial Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojoRelated:総長 + 会長 for dedicated Kson discussion/999/ for dedicated Henya discussion/mouse/ for dedicated Mouse discussion/lig/ and /big/ for extended + and former member discussionPrevious Thread: >>93016022
/Nagi+/ - Nagi General
i love kchon!
>>93029515will she get filtered by timers?
>>93029515you broke the chain
>>93029646>knee bandaidspeak design
Blessed Nagi thread
>>93029722What is the staff-hammer-thing, really?
>>93029777CBT
Hestia and Hotaru seem a little too well-adjusted...
>>93029777tenga
Epic Bacon Mealtime moment
Hime twitter activity kek
>>93030592Is that Spain?
>>93030592la cabrona con las tetas grandes
>>93030592>posting polical commentary about foreign policiesoh no
Yeah I can't watch Cyberpunk, this game is boring
>>93030854>polical commentary
Nagi is extra parasocial on twitter. I, for once, envy the Japanese
>>93030968Just be japanese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mopFSyqONAksonch time!!!
>>93031090She's /here/
CHIBBERS ALERTCHIBBERS ON THE TELLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chibison is sexykson is unsexy
stupid fucking mistakes
I want to fuck Nagi
>>93031090>>93031138>>93031146>>93031171
how do you do fellow japanese speakers
I had to leave after the braindance (a bit over an hour ago), what have I missed from Cyberpunk since then?
Michi got her dick wet
>>93031438yeahwith me
ENTERPLUSHIESON
sex with the plushie
>>93031526RAPE
>>93031494>>93031526>>93031541>>93031577I prefer the OG, but this is cute too.
burger incoming
>>93031738I could go for a burger right now
>>93031614Shut the fuck up
Burger AND a cat?!NOW we're cookin'!!
I want to coat the burger in so much semen
>>93031950This, but ranch dressing and maybe some barbecue sauce
>>93031785>>93031859fast food org
Chibison solidified its place on the divegrass team
Plushieson piloting a Burgerson mech!!
I'm really glad Michi seems to play this now as a straightforward melee character with no stealth. The way she was doing through the early stuff, where she would save and reload at being detected is the most boring possible way to watch.
>>93031785>tune in>sonchburger already ends
how much money did peke win(?) from her horse betting today
>>93033107-5k
>>93033156
>>93033156Based
>>93033156You have to have the character and fortitude to make it through the times you're down without buckling and giving up, to ever make it to the times when you're up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlif0_CS9dgsonchalong time
>>93033107When you gamble you only lose 100% of your money but when you win you can make up 1000% of your money
Kuro will be collabing with the new British male vtuber, Nix Voltare, next Saturday. They will be doing a British Tier list.https://x.com/NixVoltare/status/1875845078935072804
>>93033736>the new British male vtuber, Nix VoltareWhich recently graduated corpo is he?
craving some ferro Michi fanart
Peke is confused that dead rising is just a kuso game with a budget
craving some Deme Kuro Michi fanart
>>93033736the what now
>>93033770I don't watch male vtubers other than Kuro so I wouldn't know
>>93033775Ferro "correcting" Michi >>93033856Michi the voyeur spying on Kuro & Deme
>>93033874The Bri'ish
>>93033653yjk
>>93033653>Thumbnail has Chibison>Stream is PlushiesonShe is replaced...
>>93033736Being a male vtuber is the saddest form of existence, I respect the hustle, yet if I was to be one I would rather pull Tomari Mari
>>93033991new year new chibi
>>93033994Being male is suffering
>>93033736anyone is better than the wigga
>>93033994You sound sadder
>>93033994Kuro gave me something to look forward to in life and did the same for many others. I wouldn't call having an impact on others like that sad at all.
Another scuffed stream from the damegami
>>93034194based first message
Peke-san where's the game audio?
>>93034464I can hear it fine
Novalap
I heard a new virus just dropped, are you ready for a vtuber renaissance?
Michi likes buns.
>>93034764I like Michi's buns
>>93034786What buns?
>>93034727Coronavirus 2 electric boogaloo
>>930348162? more like 5
>>93034815Hair buns, all the character she wants to fuck have one, Jackie, Takemura, and now Panam.
>>93034727NothingEverHappens
>>93034865The other variants don't count only the OG matters
>>93035002See you in an among us lobby soon
Shut the fuck up.
>>93034727No vtuber renaissance for a weak flu, even Japan is more concerning
>>93034727yeah, my NimiVirus account will make bank
>>93034727it wont happen. even if it kills twice as much people nobody is doing that again.
Where is she?
>don't feel that parasocial>surprise here's an excuse to stop socializing*strokes penis* Hrm, nooticing
We should play among us together in the next lockdown
>>93035291
>>93035592Didn't know zen had that fetish
>>93035221Praise be to Nurgle, whatever is next no one will do anything
>>93035592yeah me
>>93035592Oh to be a gecko coated in Hime's piss
>>93035592Why are Zens fans such freaks?
>>93035898You would be too if your oshi shakes her ass at you every stream
>>93036009Get back to me when Zen does this.
>>93036057Ripping off Melly's pants and diving my tongue into her unwashed asshole while everyone watches.
>>93036057Imagine having creative freedom and giving your model an Asian ass
>>93036591that’s pretty nice for an Asian ass, real ones ain’t that round… unless they’ve done quite a bit of squats
>>93036591>giving your model an Asian assare you under the impression that's a bad thing?
>>93036955Facts.
>>93036591You know a 3d model needs to be fairly accurate to irl proportions to track well, right?
>>93036591Mel's tight butt is part of her appeal, it wouldn't be the same if she was thicc.
>>93037105Yes, I like asses that are squeezable.
>>93037302well i like them tight and perky
>>93037271Damn no need to roast Mel like that
>>93037322You like cutting boards
>>93037387i didnt say flat, anon
She's got a cute little butt, people who want everyone to have the same build are robots
>>93037387i like asses like what onigiri's got
For me, it's the tummy
>>93031859>>93032551>>93032694So far I've liked the hot dog models more. It's the first hamburger that I think works better than a hot dog, and it looks really cute too, possibly second to Hotaru's hot dog. It's something about her hairstyle and glasses that makes it just work.
>>93037537>that face of pure, unfiltered lust
>short stream>11 hours and counting
>>93037587Nah the Nagi burger is great
>>9303765510 of the hours had tts disabled too. People love to hate on her mods babying her and being weird, but they know to turn of tts, at least, for story games. I just wish the logic of this would be applied to react, and other games, and every other sort of stream where it's just as stupid and disruptive.
>>93037788Personal preferences I guess. Second best burger is Peke's imo
>>93037655>4.8m watch hoursShe's a few days from the twitch statue.
Dobodide
Desecrate the graves of mousefags
why is peke's laugh like.... that
>>9303859257 hours at her usual viewership. She'll probably get it before her hiatus week after next, or otherwise right after.
>>93038706It's hard to kayfabe a laugh and be consistent so who knows
bets on which vshojo member ironmouse won't raid today? I'm thinking all of them
peke certainly picked quite an outfit in game
15h43 UTCThe sperg arrives
>>93039253So you? What do you want to sperg about today?
michimochiDING michimochiDING Time To Eat Dinner michimochiDING michimochiDING Time to eat dinner michimochiDING michimochiDING
>>93038706hagbut the witch kind
hestie live
>>93039326mod faggot somehow made her chat culture even worse
I wish I was there
How close is Hotaru to finishing Dragon Quest?
>>93039488used to have a lot of respect for geega. she banned tts fags although they were spending a lot of money and even before she joined vshojo. of course I lost all respect I had for her when she did nothing but rp
>>93039326>>93039488Michi has the worst chat in VShojo
shut it pedro
Michi regreting making a male character again.
>>93039577Weak. Pathetic.
Michi is into old men?
ANGEL WIFE
that luffy fashion sense
>>93039714Old men are the future.
>>93039714Old men are into michi
Michi's done a good job of learning how to space out how often she talks during long streams to preserve her voice. It's also something Mouse does to keep herself from losing her voice.
Peke's driving skill not much better than henya
>>93039568You beat the main quest at over level 35 but there are end game stuff for level 50 and above. Depends.
mousefags not making literally anything about ironmouse challenge impossible
>>93039741
>>93040159Is there even anyone in vshojo that can drive? Aside from Kuro, might be a woman thing
>Peke is playing one of my favorite games of all time>Not even using a translator like they did with Nazunaim going to end my FUCKING life...
>>93040738kson has a license but can't and doesn't drive
>>93040832stop being gay and use viitor it works fine 75% of the time
>>93040892Let him kill himself
>>93040832game is trash
>>93040444My mentally stable wife.>>93040832see >>93031039 if you're using chrome.
mouse just needs to build the rocket now, right?
>>93041285yea
i just farted and it smells bad
I love the pink rat.
>>93041285>>93041369Did she hatch the babies?
>>93040106I know who you are
back from my trip now i have to catchup on all the pekeworry i missed
>>93042156anon she went broke gambling you better give her a lot of money
Zen live
https://x.com/ksononair/status/1875945828893983134Sonch schedule
>>93041672yes
>>93042767
>>93042085No you don't
I had a dream of a pink card
>>93043280Shoved up your ass?
> Dream big, shine bright
>>93043280This fat bitch?
>>93043356>this fat traitorftfy
>>93043396Forced meme
>>93043396okay tribalfaggot
>>93043396You know telling truths are forbidden in this thread, can't just fucking do that bro
Peke can’t stop gambling..
Both Mouse and Michi are still going very commendable
>>93043396>traitor
https://x.com/kitatyoco/status/1875802193141588017
>>93045041>draws in japanese
>>93045041Nice. She really made the artists work with that outfit.
>>93045041is it the perspective or are her legs just so fucking long if you trace the anatomy behind the dress
>>93045041Japanese artists absolutely shit on western drawtards
>>93045026Yes, get out
>>93045426want a new one?
It's so strange hearing the Nova girls thank people for clipping.
>>93045426
>>93045609they use the clips for shorts
>>93045672>7h>5 days ago>10s agoWhoever made the internet like this instead of using dates and times needs to be flayed alive
>>93045761That's why 4channel's the goat, as we say it around here, kek your frens later, anons
>>93045728A lot of streamers do, I'm just not used to saying "Oh, I noticed you clipped me. Thanks for that!" Not saying it's a bad thing of course.
>>93045949Reddit is the goat because it is the foundation of internet culturehttps://youtu.be/wyaFJOcBUHo
>>93045026uh oh melty
>>93046068Cringe
>>93046662michi farting all over geegs
omfg tts fags shut the fuck up about killing healthcare ceos. never givr reetarded people any form of power
>>9304717399% finally score one not even billionaire after decades of increasing wealth disparity and suddenly all start larping as fight club joker, it's absolutely pathetic
GO LATINA GIRL GO
>>93046068Buy an ad.
>>93046662Kino…
>>93047478buy a rope
>>93039563>>92974132
>>93047173did someone tts Zen about this?
>>93047889Can I still watch this?
The Puta did it She built the rocket
>>93046687How is that a melty
>michi ending before the hyper train even finishedshe was pretty tired
look mouse how easy it is to raid another vshojo member. maybe ask michi if you forgot how to do it
>>93048511She will just end because she's tired.
Hestia finally met classy Majima
i want to fuck her breastias
lmao that timing
aaaand mouse died on the platform because of the bug kek
zen is into horse cock and old bastards
zen is into small cock and cute shotas
>>93048511At this point, I've come to accept that Ironmouse is pretty much the brand name PR of VShojo and western Vtubing, she's going to act like it.That's why she's been doing all the fleshie collabs with CDawg, Kai, and Jack. To leech normie viewers into Vtubing.Honestly wish she would raid the other members, but she probably has some sort of plan.
Geegoids, it's over
>>93049078>CDawg
days late but I got around to watching the michi and numi stream. is numi always this relatable and chill or is it just because she's talking with michi because the whole thing was great
Hesitate my oshi.
>>93049168hesitate for what
A terrible day
>>93048511She's raiding pirate software or no one.
another game down
Damn it's almost been 5 years
Subnut is one of those games you wish you could play for the first time again
>>93049295that's code for sex all day with me
>>93049295CIA briefing.
Another game completed
>>93049295>family
Will Mouse raidZenHestiaDokiLilyPIRATESOFTWARENo one?
>>93049381A shame Below Zero sucked ass
>>93049436piratesoftware, he can handle mousefags
gamer
>>93049436I don't care you faggot
>>93049447isn't Subnotica 2 coming out this year
>>93049436Well if she raids Hestia she'll be doing something pretty incredible.
Ignore him.
>>93049505Isn't that below zero?
>>93049505Early access is, dunno about full release
>>93049505Warning: Subnautica 1 early access was extremely buggy and lacking most of the game, basically what early access is supposed to beThe 1.0 actual release of 2 could be another couple years
>>93049537Below Zero was more of a sequel in the way New Vegas was a "sequel" to Fallout 3. They're different games but using the exact same platform with slightly different stuff. A sequel would hopefully be a whole new game built on a whole new platform.
>>93049505DEI 2 this is a joke
>>93049295A yes happens to me all the time too that my family without warning suddenly visits me
>>93049436>No one
zen about to lose it
can anybody still get their own contract with GS while the GFuel thing is happening?I thought Gfuel is partnered with vshojo as a brand but members can get still do stuff with GS
>>93049614>sitting watching some shit tv and chatting while I just want to watch vtubersI'll miss them when they're gone though
>>93049687Post the see through version.
>>93049598Oh damn I'm happy now
>>93049715This is like having Coke and Pepsi in a restaurant you have to drop one for the other
>>93049436 (me)No one uh.Sad she keeps doing that. Look at other big vtubers like Vedal. It's kinda like an event to raid small streamers. I don't get it, why is she so against raiding other vtubers and her own coworkers. It makes no sense
>>93049831Go back touristchama
>>93049791Has a member confirmed this?
>>93049831Did you watch her stream?
Time for some yenkoes.
I wanna draw Henya in this outfit, but any ideas to "spice it up"? Anything from SFW poses to degen fetish stuff is OK.
Michi is really good at walking the thin line between HUHbaiting and being really, really oblivious
Zen's reactions are priceless >>93049940Based
>>93049906no but I can guess There is no one out there that has multiple multiple energy drink sponsors
>>93049831sweetheart I'm afraid you're lost, you'll want to head over to /mouse/ for your fellow mouse-antis
>>93049937I did.It's not that hard to raid someone.
>>93049963You can probably find some interesting ideas if you search pelvic_curtain on any booru site
>>93049963You could always add a giant penis to her
>>93049906No but it's pretty unlikely. Conflict of interest and all that.
>>93050014No was all the answer I needed. Thanks.
>>93050027It isn't but Vshojo is a brainworm org.
>>93049906Zen dropping that other powder company was enough proof I think
>>93050046He said he wants to "spice it up", not draw the most boring and predictable thing possible.
>>93050018he tried to bait here as well but he's getting ignore kek
>>93050043>>93050046Penis curtain, then?>>93050120Predictable doesn't mean bad.
>>93050027If Connor Pete or Candii were on Mouse would have raided. She would have done Thor but she is feeling called out after reading /here/ so is now ending without raiding instead.
>>93050130tbdesu I'm not being sarcastic on the back half, that's where the mouse haters who have convinced themselves they're fans go so actual haters will fit right in
>>93050136>Penis curtainSounds good
Let it go bro
No geeg no streams
>>93050142Well, so much for friendship and unity
>>93050183Alright, thanks. I'll get on it.
My wife is in Genshin...fuck I finally feel like playing the game
You should ignore him.
>>93050183I hate futafags so much it's unreal. Guess I have to go pay for more art of Henya with a vagina...
>>93050230>No geegwhy live
>>93050307Gay
>>93050280Yes, mouse should ignore him and raid her fellow vshojo members instead
>>93050307Stop being a whiny little bitch dayo
>>93050280I will respond to everything now
Legitimately parasocial for Geega
>>93050403You're just like me
Genshin mod looks pretty good.Wonder if there's mod for the other members
>>93050307https://vocaroo.com/1nS0YEPIIP4v
>>93049436I guess she will raid Piratesoftware to get that sweet clout she so desperately wants>>93049831Another classic Ironmouse. She hates the other members, she'd never raid them.>>93050027No it isn't. That's why there is something going on behind the scenes. My best guess is that Ironmouse only raids clouted streamers. Nobody wants to admit it, but Ironmouse is a giant numberfag. She needs the viewers, she needs the awards. She probably feels intimidated by other Vtubers, that might or already have overtaken her. Like Filian, Vedal or basically all of Hololive.>>93050248Ironmouse doesn't have friends in Vshojo, only coworkers. This was confirmed after Nyan left and they barely interacted after being "besties" for so long. All lies.
not reading allat
I still dont understand the message behind Medicine
>>93050674I'd bet that's also why Zen is considering leaving vshojo again
ttsfags are so fucking retarded
So what do we think is he a flip or swarm fag?
>filian, vedal, holoso it's phasefag falseflagging
>>93050838mouse
>>93050838its just one of our trolls.
>>93050497Nope and I can see why. The author went through quite the trouble to acquire and polish a Zen model.
>>93050765Me
>>93050838silverfag
Zen stop trying to make me cry
>>93049963Squatting so that the flap is dragging on the ground.
>>93050838Neither, the call is coming from inside the house.
>>93050738Seems to be interpretive, but Michi's version seems to be that the "old" Michi on the left is depressed and so much so that she's dissociated completely. So much so that even Jared can't reach her, and not even any of the VShojo mascots can. "Young" Michi on the left is a reminder of what "Old" Michi wanted to be but never was which is the source of the depression.Though the message and song are bleak, the video is also a reminder that nobody is alone, that you do have a lot of love and support around you and they will help you even if you are dissociating and unable to recognize it. True depression is very hard to get out of and you literally care about nothing: not yourself not your friend not anything. If it gets bad enough you either don't care about being alive or are in so much pain that you've numbed yourself to that you just want it to end actively. That is also how it seemed Peke was interpreting it last night when she watched it. Support is there, you are loved, you have people who care, and they will even if you're not "there" mentally. That kind of shit.
Zen makes me cry from my penis
>>93051113oh, there he is, rent free having silverschizostill squatting here, I see
What'd I miss, went to eat with my family 'bout an hour or two ago
>>93050838Just a homegrown baitfaggot who has been doing the same shit for years. He will find something negative about anything and bait about it to get (you)s. And any retard who tries to "reason with him" or "prove him wrong" are wasting their fucking time and are just making it worse by enabling him.
>>93050838It could be literally anyone>>93051262Nothing
oh fuck the schizo is awake
>>93051262the resident thread shitter is back Mous finished subnautica and Zen is Live besides this nothing else
>>93051262Mouse finished Subnautica, Zen was listening to absurd things Michi said
>>93051262hi geeg
>>93051304yep>>93051113he isunfortunately
>>93051393Funny, that you feel compelled to respond to that exact post. I am nooooooticing
>>93050847They got bigger than her and have more interesting events desu.Especially considering she ignored Vedal's and Fillian's collab
he's still going
>>93051262Mouse hates everyone at vshojo
>>93051522He already went for 2 years, what makes you think he will stop now?
Remember the good old days of real frienship?
i want nova to reach more people so i can see more art of them, please start collabing with other jp streamers
>>93050738>>93051229I loved those little details in the video, like when the "old" michi stops moving (passes out? dies?) and at the end, when her scar is covered by patches
Remember the good old days when everyone hated Nyan
>>93049295Family = Boyfriend
>>93051439Well, that's because I'm nooooticing too. You're not the only noooooticer here.
https://x.com/makochan1783/status/1875741917025333425
>>93051667You mean the babegate?
>>93051754have you noooooticed your schizophrenia yet and visited a doctor or preferably a mental institution that doesn't allow you access to the internet?
>>93051820way before, Babe gate was just the end of it
froot...
>>93051858I've noooooticed your schizophrenia, long time ago.
>>93051640I've heard other people interpret it as some kind of gender transition thing where "young" Michi in this case is the previous gender and "old' Michi is the new one but it didn't make them happy. Also seen other people say that the "old" Michi represents someone who is being treated with some kind of medicine that just numbs them but doesn't fix their problems, like taking ADHD meds mellowing them out but taking away what also made them "fun" or something, and "young" Michi is who they were beforehand, and Jared and the other mascots are like "imaginary friends" they no longer have, representations of their fun and such. Lots of ways to interpret it. Michi says she's fine if people think she "died" because it means whatever to whomever.
>>93051804Wtf is wrong with kson? she's an actual pervert bruh
>>93051971
>>93051971always have been anon-chan
>>93051914just for my understanding: how long ago?
>>93051994I'm jealous
i just geeged
Froot hasn't raped me in a while :(
........
>>93051605It was all fake.
>>93051922She literally explained the whole video and what it means last night. When she encouraged other interpretations she was just humoring people, (at a couple occasions it got a little awkward), the meaning is what she said it is.
>>93051667Tabs.
>>93052124Time to move on from vshojoSay no to corpos, embrace small indie groups
>>93052109UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Love NyanWould fuck NazunaVei
Baby is mad because we won't leave.
>>93052233Reminder that you are here for the talents. Not Vshojo. We are not fucking corpo cocksucking drones that worship the Pink V. We are not like the Blue Dorito. You enjoy your oshi, you enjoy her friends, you enjoy what the agency can provide her. You DO NOT simp for the agency.
>>93052233>Implying those won't also fall apartWomen friendships are a meme
Gayest ritual post
>>93052321Ok, silversperg, time to take your meds
>>93052134Who cares what she wants. This is art, it is about your own selfish feelings, you cunt.
How much money did Peke lose last night?
>>93052539yes
>>93052425Women friendships involve hugging, kissing, groping, and say gexIt's not fairMen should do all that, too
>>93052527Art is about the selfish feelings of the person who made it. If you think it's about gender transition or how aliens ate Sigourney Weaver you're simply mistaken.
The V is white you fucktard.
>>93052578Go on a camping trip with Kuro
>>93052539wait what did peke gamble on
>>93052539She used all the twitch money she got
>>93052620I didn't say *I* interpreted it that way. I have just seen people say that. People see whatever they want in shit. You can't stop them so it's pointless worrying about it.
>>93052796Horsies! She only lost about 10 bucks tho as >>93052811 points out.
>>93052720Gay sex when you're camping sounds fun and romantic, but it's really just a headache. Give me a hot shower and a comfy bed any day.
>>93052860>gets money>loses it on horse racesmy oshi
>>93052818People also look at the Monty Hall problem and think keeping the same door makes sense. They're wrong. Whether I can stop them from being wrong doesn't matter.
>>93052996chilean jumpscare the fuck
>>93052321kek that was enough to trigger him
>>93053268>admits that he is a threadshitterkek
Geega's family is ruining my parasocial time
>>93053364her family? me
>>93053364that family? her boyfriend not meGeega lies all the time. Remember when she definitely didn't go to twitch con?
>>93052996Imagine when the bigger bucks come rolling in...>>93053065That's a totally different scenario, though. That's about probabilities not subjective feelings.
new thread>>93053538>>93053538>>93053538
>>93053544The meaning of a text is not subjective. It's whatever the person who wrote it meant.
