Told ya she was a bitch.We warned you multiple times
>>93036968Yeah my bitch
>>93037011Im happy for you as long as you are happy
>>93036968And it couldn't happen to a more deserving fanbase. Calling my oshi and others I like whores for 3 years because they weren't "GFE" or "CGDCT" enough. They talk like tr/a/nnies and I'm glad they're getting fucked.
>>93037484But anon, you still watch whoresAnd they were whores for three years!
>>93036968I'd give her the benefit of the doubt but the fact she did it a few hours after graduation and they're one of the first 20 people she followed means she's going full scorched earth for the redebut.And I'm sure she's overestimating how many fans she has that will put up with anything like doob and kson did.
>>93039205>Okay you brown fucking faggotYou're so angry because he basically won. She's not on Hololive anymore and it turns out he was right.
>>93039414Right about what? this schizo reality only exists in your head
>>93036968MAGGED
>>93036968>vaguepostingyawn.
>>93036968Who is 'we'? You and all other Saars?
The leopard can't change its spots and it will eat the cucklings faces. Once a bitch, always a bitch
>>93036968So what happened?
>>93040868OP didn't take his meds
>>93036968Fauna broke you
>>93036968>Mindbroken
>>93036968Fauna was basically a used up roastie who settled but all those years married to beta cuck she was thinking about Chad and eventually divorced to "find herself".
>>93043997based but that is not a metaphor bro and the divorce part doesnt fit
This thread is one schizo talking to itself.
>>93040706>Fuck Fdund BITCHwhat
>>93040868Nothing
>>93036968You were right.
>>93036968>we
>>93040868followed shondo an hour after graduation>>93043997kek
>>93036968You told me fucking nothing because I stayed the fuck away from you.
>>93052922Why should I care? They were friends before hololive.
I will comfort all saplings
>>93037484>couldn't happen to a more deserving fanbaseRuffians are still there. Well, some of them.
>>93036968>wenot your personal army, faggot.
>>93055973Former Ruffian here.Ruffians will eat themselves before any big yab happens. They all fucking hate each other. Go into a /baubau/ thread during a stream. It's nuttier than a bag of Cashews.
>>93056256>Go into a /baubau/No thank you. Just saying the same "everyone else is a lazy whore" has been a cornerstone of their religion since the start.
>>93056704Humor me and do it once and observe what it's like during a stream. It's worse than you think.
>>93036968>weFuck off schizo, you sound like some faggot who thinks he can speak in others' name.
>>93056256That's what happens when you pander to actual clinical retards. But, hey, they're still emptying their guardians credit cards, so all is well.
>>93057167To be fair, that's more of a symptom of vtubers in general. There are vtubers who stream even less and will do one stream and will make over 10k just for existing.
>>93036968She’s not a bitch, bitch.
>>93036968what did she do this time
>>93052922>>followed shondo an hour after graduationyou mean she followed a personal friend since before hololive from the same profession? wow, what a shocker, we need to call up cnn so they can air this breaking news.
>>93037484>They talk like tr/a/nniesBecause they are
>>93056704to be fair it's kinda true, they're the literal only en member to take the keyfab seriously. has any en member literally ever used their lore to 1% of it's potential other than the guard dogs? their consistent streaming schedule and willingness to jump in on last second opportunities like playing shitty nes games with korone is admirable.
>>93037484Well…were they whores? And not gfe cgdct?
>>93037484>be a whore>gets treated like a whoresimple as
>>93039017>following a couple former coworkers and fellow streamers on twitter = scorched earthtake your meds
>>93039017>following Sakuna is a bad thingThe FUCK did she do to you nigger?
>>93036968>weAlso, literally nothing happened.
so like...WHY should I care she followed some twitlers?
>>93037484>tranniesWhat is this meanless buzzword? Saplings are some of the more put together people irl at conventions of the Holo EN fanbase. Many of them look like they shower and try to dress up.
>>93066681>Saplings are some of the more put together people irl at conventions of the Holo EN fanbase. Many of them look like they shower and try to dress up.lollmao even
>>93036968I we're going to keep saying this. Then I'm going to keep saying Mumei has autism.
>>93037484Your oshi will always be an irrelevant whore.
>>93039017At least doob still keep her distance from male and drama, holo can terminate her if she fuck up badly
>>93037484Imagine seething about what 4chan people say lmao what a faggot.
>>93066681Low effort ragebait
>>93044425It's supposed to be an a but the poo butchered it
Prove Fauna was a bitch
>>93036968show us your feet
>>93037484brat....
>>93037484>Calling my oshi and others I like whores for 3 years because they weren't "GFE" or "CGDCT" enoughthis literally never happened. i don't know why you guys target sapling all the time. you always complain about them but i never see them do any of the shit you say they do. i used to take your word for it but i've been here long enough now to know you guys are just insane.
>>93077117Fauna/Nimi, from debut, has had an inordinate number of schizos for some reason, who have targeted her and her fanbase incessantly, every day, nonstop, for years.
>>93077117Same thing happened with Deadbeats back in the day. They just got blamed for everything to the point that it became a meme to just blame them for everything.
>>93078413The only fanbase that ever seems to be a problem are KFP and that's because of like, one or maybe two schizophrenic retards. Which is to say, no holo fanbase is shit.
>>93078777I dunno, Ruffians are pretty bad.
>>93078777there's at least ten of them
>>93063634>has any en member literally ever used their lore
>>93080875I mean in a meaningful way. No, Kronii making a weird joke about time once a month doesn't count, and hastily mentioning "oh yeah by the way I am supposed to be a lore heavy character" now and then doesn't mean they're making use of the lore. The guard dogs use it as a driving hook of their content, making their theme around "guarding" the viewer and protecting their smiles, and doing planned arcs like "training to be fearless" by playing horror games and pretending to be scared and then over time dropping the pretend fear to show their lore plotline progressing. You can go a stream of any other EN member without them even once mentioning what they're supposed to be, sure Calli has a scythe but there's rarely a time she actually uses being "death itself" to her advantage through anything like themed streams. They're more likely to arbitrarily make random stuff up like Mori becoming a cowgirl on top of being death.
>>93081828Dokibird's lore is that she is a tomato that pilots a mecha-like skinsuit. And she is relatively consistent in keeping this up.
>>93036968She is not a bitch.But saplings are still the most retarded. They thought... ahahahaha... that leaving... ahahaha... the walled garden was a good... AHAHAHA... decision. How naïve and short-sightened do you have to be to think that survival strategy as holo is the same as an indie?> 1. Dubius contacts as a part of neccessary networking strategy> SAPLINGS ARE HERE> 2. Dubius collabs as unavoidable mistakes in totally new environment. (Even fanbase can't agree what streamers are appropriate and inapropriate)> 3. First wave of fanbase evaporation> 4. Change in content as a reaction to change in fanbase> 5. Second wave of fanbase evaporation> 6. FOMO. Following cascading waves of fanbase evaporation> 7. Only core fanbase retained. 3view state. Content is very different from what was in holo> 8. Lower motivation -> less effortOnly joining vshojo or phase would alleviate following crisises
>>93037484Who is your oshi? Enna?
>>93082638>B-b-but Doki and Minto...1. Doki is a fucking steam-roller. Do I really need to explain the difference in assertiveness between Doki and Fauna?2. Minto is vshojo adjacent
>>93082638Least obvious phasebeggar
>>93083182Never watched phase
>>93081828>sure Calli has a scythe but there's rarely a time she actually uses being "death itself" to her advantage through anything like themed streamsThemed streams aren't the only way to make use of their lore. She makes reference to being death in her banter with chat and other members all the time, which is her main selling point after her music. Just off the top of my head recently she was a mortician in Gigi's birthday RP. Okay maybe Gigi made that decision, then what about when Ollie came to submit her fertility meme for the time capsule? When asked if she was fertile Calli immediately deflected to not being able to create life, only death. Her lore is literally her most recurring motif besides being dad. Not to mention her Holo music career being entirely built on her lore persona. Of all the EN Holos who barely touch their lore that you could have mentioned, you chose Calli?
>>93083001This is some bizzare cope. Nimi already has more subs than Mint and she hasn’t even debuted yet.
>>93083302You pray that I am wrong. I want to be wrong so bad
>>93083302>X(t0)>Y(t0)My whole post was about possible dynamic
>>93082572this is in no way comparable to what FWMC does lol
You need to kill yourself
>>93083001>2. Minto is vshojo adjacent??? You can count the number of Vshojo collabs she's done in the past 6 months on 1 finger. (a random mario party collab with Geega, Matara, and Laimu (indie))
>>93084611Yeah, sorry, I don't watch her. But the memes surrounding her were, which I saw, were predominantly about her interactions with vshojo/holo/doki and not with other indies. Why so?
>>93083277I chose Calli specifically because she uses it the most but still doesn't use it much. Yes you can cherry pick the 1 average moment a stream it comes up. You can also point at how she goes entire streams where it never comes up and entire streams where she's just randomly a cowgirl instead or something.
>>93040706pakis are different from pajeets anon
>>93085187She mostly streams solo (Dec: 22 solo streams, 1 collab with Doki/Laimu/Snuffy), and since you don't watch her, her stuff probably just doesn't get recommended to you.
>>93085890By "memes" I meant threads in catalog and memes in her thread. Her presence (relevance) is supported by interactions with matara and doki
>All this over... Twitter follows
>>93036968>>93039017Totallyt Holo fans posting here btwNo way it were any falseflagging anons
>>93086163>basing relevance on catalog shitposts
>>93086327>Consistent catalog shitpostShitposters are opportunists and you must be mentally ill to consistently shitpost about irrelevant chuuba
>>93036968Lets be real, it was obvious she had a stuck up personality from the outset of revealing she was a vegan. This was only further confirmed with the Japan stories of everyone trying to accommodate Fauna for vegan specific meals and dragging the mood down complaining about it.It takes a special kind of asshole to ruin an outing with friends just because your autistic virtue signal you call a diet wasnt being catered to.
>>93063159Nothing.The Blue Dorito Cult is just having a meltdown, as usual.
What will the cope look like when Nimi still gets more viewers than Promise?
>>93056256It's actually frustrating since I really like the dogs.I originally thought it was just antis raiding the threads, but after several months I had to accept that they really do hate everything. It'is absurd considering how friendly and welcoming those girls are.
penis
>>93087007Mumei you have to push before you talk
>>93067236>At least doob still keep her distance from maleShe keeps her distance from everybody but Doki lately since they both have the marvel rivals brainrot.
>>93037484>fauna>GFEthis is bait
>>93065147>homos>coworkerskill yourself homobeggar it's always so easy to recognize your retarded lingo
>>93080875Honestly I'd wait to see her next skinsuit to see if she's willing to body hop. Also I'd say she's leaning pretty hard into the parasite lore considering how open she is to poaching people for her stacks in Marvel Rivals. But yeah, that's just incidental. FWMC actually go all in on the kayfabe and only occasionally break it in members streams.
>>93082638That's not how you spell dubious. This board could compete with /co/ for lowest IQ, I s2g.Also, aside from the fauna situation, all of this corposlop schizzing when vtubing itself is falling off just because it's not really a novel concept anymore. Fleshtubers are still more successful than vtubers and that's never going to change because humans like seeing other real humans. It's the same reason why live action films still sell better than full 2D or 3D animation movies. You can blame TikTok and normies for this. Enjoy vtubing while it lasts, if your oshi isn't graduated and doing something else in 2035 count yourself lucky.
>>93086781>This was only further confirmed with the Japan stories of everyone trying to accommodate Fauna for vegan specific meals and dragging the mood down complaining about it.any examples of this? In my fantasies imagining I was a holo I do personally always get annoyed at Fauna because so many amazing meals would need an asterisk for her, like you can't just go get Yakiniku as a group for the shared experience without hoops of finding a place with vegan options and then having someone in the group have their own segregated section for food. Even just stopping to get Mcdonalds I imagine being a pain, picky eaters can at least get nuggets and fries but getting a vegan "meal" at mcdonalds is not reasonable.
>>93083277I don't think you understand the point at all:Fuwamoco:>actually pretends to be the characters at nearly 100% uptime>works the lore into arcs and goals for streams constantlyCalli:>steams as herself while now and then nodding to the lore>makes random one liners when convenient and ignores the lore when it's notthey are not the same at all. Fuwamoco rivals pro wrestling autism in the way they stay in character, and a thick layer of character too. They're obviously far smarter and have completely different personalities than they show on stream. Calli put on a character for the first 90% of her 1st stream as a joke and then permanently dropped the character to be herself, which is respectable in it's own way but is not kayfabe.
>>93085187She actually collabs and interacts constantly with her 2-3view indie friend group. She has a long list of 2-3view indie friends and small corpos that she regularly invites to twitter spaces or joins events for. (Hell, she even got two of them to join her concert.)Basically if you either played Metal Gear, can be convinced to play Metal Gear, or like idols in any capacity there's a chance she's both friends with you and will likely talk your ear off.
>>93087704For the record, Fauna doesn't care if anyone around her eats meat. She just doesn't want to for some reason I forget. If the place has veggies or some other side dish she can eat, she'll get that. I haven't watched her much, but I do remember her talking a bit about not wanting to ruin other people's experiences with her diet.
>>93088147The guy who keeps talking about her ruining the japan trip is a known schizo, he'll bring up the "meat spoon" next or whatever. IRyS has talked about how much fun she had going out with Fauna and was surprised at how unironically good the food at the vegan restaurant they ate at was, since before that she had written it all off as tasteless. Watame also talked about how much fun she had eating out with Fauna and being amazed at the volume of food a vegan needs to eat to meet caloric requirements. Literally nobody's experience was "ruined" by her diet.
>>93088147Right but you have to think of it from the perspective of the friend group. Everyone wants to share a strong bonding moment over a meal, it's an extremely common situation. Is it REALLY going to feel right to go to a place where everyone is sharing the same food but 1 person is getting their own thing? It's like how women will say "no, I'm fine" when they're clearly not fine, you can't just do what you wanted after they get moody, you have to readjust even if they refuse to tell you what's wrong.Especially in Japan, think of all of the cultural "friend gathering meals" like Hotpot, Yakiniku, ect. They essentially all rely on meat or at least have something like eggs, and they're never vegan friendly. She might not want to ruin other people's experiences but it's going to consistently happen because the group is naturally going to have to bend around her so they don't feel guilty, and it's going to ruin the vibe of "just sharing a meal everyone will love".
>>93088203>he'll bring up the "meat spoon" next or whatever.qrd
>>93081828You typed all this shit without having watched holoen once? They never shut up about their lore, any of them.
>>93089312How often did Gura ever talk about Atlantis?
>>93040706And in the end he still won
Fauna...
Is there a single board on this site that is more detached from reality than this one? Especially regarding its core subject matter. It is actually surreal watching people just say anything with barely any rhyme or reason.It's not even speculation at this point. Just some sort of retard hivemind powered supercomputer on the cutting edge of being wrong about everything.
Watch how saplings accuse everyone they dont agree with as brown and SEA, the go to argument of someone who has none
>>93091205Probably /pol/ or /k/ This is definitely up there, though. A whole ass board dedicated to vtubers and nobody fucking watches streams.
>>93091354That is literally what every single Anon here does regardless of having an actual arguement or not
How did she win so hard?
>>93087081They're literally signed under the same company, you mong. And they can collaborate with one another even if some of them don't. That's a co-worker.
>>93036968Fsunas PL was enough to show every potential gachi what is she really like. Too bad holo drones have that "clean slate the moment she joins" cope.
>>93091205/x/ and /pol/
based
>>93089691What did he win?
>>93087516Блять, кaк жe вы зaeбaли. Ыыы, dubious, low-IQ retard. Bидимo знaниe гpaмaтики eдинcтвeннoгo извecтнoгo им poднoгo языкa -- вepшинa их интeллeктyaльных ycилий. Кaк жe я sci-hub читaть-тo бyдy, нe знaя кaк пишeтcя dubious. Пиздeц
>>93036968
>>93088346She was making a million excuses to not eat natto. Literally just that, just joking around.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8gB0-Y8Bvg
>>93104541Based. Fuck natto
>>93085867>pakis pajeetsI can't tell the fucking difference.
>this thread has been more for more than 24 hours>only 125 postsyou couldnt fake seethe this bad
>>93089691These feet ain't winning shit.
>>93036968She's not a bitch for following some coworkers on Twitter
>>93037484I've seen this almost word for word being said about completely different fanbasesI'm not buying it.
>>93065335That anon is clearly talking about the former HolostarsAlthough it is really really funny that Fauna, who doesn't know Nip, is following Rica and Sakuna but not Mikeneko. I imagine she's heard just how shitty that woman is and plans to completely avoid her
>>93107434>coworkersThe Stars, you mean? This is and always will be a retarded argument. You don't have to associate with your "coworkers" after all of you have left your job and you know it. How do you explain her not following Miguel then?
>>93037484I've only ever called Kiara a whore, so if she's one of the ones you like you deserve it.
>>93107773>You don't have to associate with your "coworkers" after all of you have left your jobAnd? Nobody claimed that.>How do you explain her not following Miguel then?- a bitch who is known for being a compulsive liar, being an abusive spouse, burning bridges left and right and throwing people under the bus in desperate attempts to stay relevantvs.- two dudes who at the very least left on good enough terms for it to be called a graduationgee I fucking wonder
>>93108357>- two dudes who at the very least left on good enough terms for it to be called a graduationThey basically admitted to being fired, or at least notMagni did.Also, Mel was canned for almost the exact same reason.But that's not even the point I was making: I agree that Miguel is a disgrace to Vtubing. But the point is that clearly Fauna is intending something from following the menhera fags and it isn't just "unity". They're not even "good" males, they're whiny menhera
>>93086963The cope for the longest time was "we're being raided haha"I went into those threads during dead hours. It was a cesspit even when they weren't streamingRuffians are just incredibly unhinged.>It'is absurd considering how friendly and welcoming those girls are.The threads before they joined hololive were very friendly and welcoming. But this is what happens when the thing you love becomes popular. It happens with everything. There was once upon a time Mihoyo fans were bearable
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