>To sing one English song, it'd cost as much as the entire liveWhat the fuck? Why do English songs cost so much?
>>93046246guess who run the western music industry?
>>93046246How do you fags not know this? Licensing Beatles or Michael Jackson songs for anything costs 10s of millions of dollars.
>>93046246Blame Metallica and Disney.
>>93046246Hahahahaha how the fuck is singing expensive Hahahaha just sing the song like bruh open your mouth hahaOh...corpos can't do that.
Jews and boomers will literally ruin anything and everything for some worthless play currency.
>>93046566Twitch actually bans indie streamers if the record companies complain.
>>93046246The western music industry is like the Japan game industry when it comes to perms retardation
>>93046246New rrat, Fauna actually loved the idolshit but wanted to sing more English songs and that's why she graduated
>>93046694that's why twitch gave streamers another audio channel that is not included in the vod
>>93046879That still doesn't change the fact that even indies can't get away with crossing the record companies
>>93046981He literally told you a way they can get away with it.
>>93046981they don't have to because there isn't copyrighted material in the vod if they use the proper audio channel.
>>93046246How did ERB afford it?
>>93047126The context of Ina's statement was in regards to releasing a cover of it or singing it during a 3D live/holofes. Not singing it during an unarchived karaoke.
>>93046566There should be a hard cap of earning. Human won't get happier once their wealth pass a certain threshold. Pink Floyd is still making millions from Dark Side of the Moon alone.There should be a limit then people can sing by opening their mouth without paying a single dime.The only ones seething about this idea is the greedy music executives, the artists won't complain much if everyone is doing the same.
Okay, how does ERB sing english language songs non-stop all the fucking time then?
>>93047248So in theory Ina could for example upload an official cover of a standard EN song like say something from Ed Sheeran or Adele on her own channel?The downside is that just this one cover would cost as much as a whole 3D live, did I get this right?
>>93047055Oh come now, if some music industry parasites wanted to they could absolutely eviscerate someone for streaming copyrighted music, vod or no vod. The unarchived thing is just a way to keep a low profile and not make yourself an easy target for automated evisceration.I'm honestly shocked that it still works at all on youtube, I would've expected live copyright strikes to be a thing by now.
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>>93046246unironically Jews, it's impressive how they ruin everything for everyone, everywhere.
>>93046246>To sing one English song, it'd cost as much as the entire liveMost fans understand that but Hololive antis will keep on shitposting with that attack because vtubers have to dance on eggshells when making statements about the western music industry. They don't want to bluntly state the music records are both corrupt and greedy.
>>93047248but she did release a cover of a Beatles songhttps://youtu.be/u1iuvoamOFQ
>>93047484Yes licensing mainstream pop music can cost millions if not 10s of millions for shit like taylor swift, metallica etc.Advertising companies and movies will pay these fees.
>>93047748You now realize why this doesn't have an MV.
>>93047748Judging by the licensing info she or cover aren't getting a cent from that cover
>>93047637Pippa and Zenya have hinted (((them))) before. Why can't fucking Hololive do the same?
>>93047778How do all the other channels on YT do it? I mean like literal whos who just do their own thing and who upload covers of popular songs. Might be channels with a couple 10k or 100k or sometimes a few million subs.Does it just work differently for Cover because company?
>>93047248>unarchived karaoke.They're on fucking streaming services. What's so special about these?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjsIkv4z4TMhttps://youtu.be/fUsUIWOwKEU
>Why do English songs cost so much?
>>93047929They are permabanned from ever having an MV and can only be on topic channels.That's basically it. Probably cost a bit to license but the key thing is that the "Youtube video for the song" rights are absolutely not included. The fact that Youtube Music is on Youtube is fine because lawyers and spurious bullshit that works in the favor of the talents.
>>93046246The RIAA mafia, retard./end of thread
>>93046776She's not singing them on her channel either, dumbass. What part of this do you thirdies not understand? Go and try uploading a cover of a Taylor Swift song on Youtube and see what happens to your channel, idiot.Japan is the exception when it comes to this stuff. They have a karaoke culture and that's what allows their recording industry to allow covers or charge low prices for them. There is no JARSAC for western music.
>>93046246>Why do English songs cost so much?because of THEM
>>93046462it does not
someone post that clip of Irys saying she thought they had made a mistake adding two extra 0s on the cost
>>93046246Just make one nigga, damn
>>93049373Right? Just hire some english songwriters instead of ESL/ETL fags or relying on Mori
>>93047911Here's what anons in this thread are being retarded aboutANYONE can do a cover of western music. You just don't get any money from it. Everyone's bitching about waaaaaaah it's so impossible but really all that's required is accepting you won't get any money from the effort, along with the initial cover song licensing.
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>>93046246Why?J__S
Are you guys retarded? Why would it cost money to release a cover? Have you been to YouTube?
>>93046246From a comment made by IRyS, we can estimate the cost of a 3D live, she said something like "with 1 million yen can you pay for 3D live? hahahahaha I wish I could, that would pay for just a part of it". 1 million yen = 6,362.74$. So it would cost approximately 15000$ or even more, obviously you also have to take into account that IRyS's 3D lives have everything you can spend money on in its best quality, maybe a less produced one could end up costing less, but I don't think it would be less than 10k$. It's not worth it paying like 100k$ for just one song when with that money you could pay like 6 3D lives + she asked and those songs can only be used ONCE in that 3D live, a complete scam>>93047929That's only on music platforms, they can't make an MV of them and again someone asked IRyS and it seems that only some members FOR NOW can make covers like that, she said that she can't. So, I don't know how the fuck that shit works, maybe it has to do with where a member resides or something, I have no idea, but you don't get money out of it
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>>93046246Not being able to sing perform or cover Western music is holding Cover back. Kobo and Gura both have soulful voices. I'd love to see them cover Motown songs. And both Mumei and Biboo love Linkin Park. Imagine them covering Linkin Park songs together. Absolute cinema.
>>93047498That would involve humans working at google/youtube, which we all know doesnt exist
>>93046246Oy vey, you can't ask that kind of question. This is extremely antisemitic.
>>93049604So you're supposed to pay an arm and a leg to liscence a shitty english song just to sing a cover for it and post it on your channel but you're not allowed to profit from it at all?
>>93047748Covering a song and doing a live performance are handled by different parts of copyright law. Anybody can legally release a cover of any song on streaming platforms because it's just a matter of revenue split (which the platform handles automatically). It's a compulsory license so the person covering the song doesn't even need to ask for permission. To actually perform the song in a venue or on a platform like Youtube, the platform itself would have to have acquired a license from the rightsholder (which Youtube does have with certain music publishers, with the revenue shares handled via content ID) but introducing a visual element to it in the form of a concert performance further complicates things by requiring different licenses that aren't compulsory, not to mention Cover being a Japanese company with a whole different set of copyright law and different publishers and potentially entirely different rightsholders fucks the whole situation up. If you have to actually ask for the license then the fee will be steep because they're not asking for royalties, they're demanding an upfront cost.Note that ERB and Liz's covers of western songs aren't videos they uploaded to Youtube, they're audio files uploaded to a distribution platform (Distrokid in this instance) that itself distributes it to Youtube Music which autogenerates a "video". They could potentially release covers of any song they want in this manner, no reason for them not to other than Cover doing their usual baby steps maneuver to make sure nobody makes a big stink over it before rolling it out to everyone else.
>>93047907Because hololive doesnt have only 600 people watching them
>>93046403Good luck, you'll never (((guess))).
>>93046246This thread is antisemitic, delete it.
>>93054225Anti what?We love semen here.
>>93054336No, we love semen demons here
>>93054136Someone who knows what they're talking about.
>>93053745according to "god's chosen" retards, yes
And yet this existshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Azbg6s1WAYou just aren't singing the right songshttps://files.catbox.moe/3a7alu.mp4
>>93046246thye can't sing an en original?
>>93054783Henya did a "Lazy Song" cover during her 3D debut.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJY_LjTqBck
>>93046246Assuming you already have the material, 3d live should be relatively cheap, especially with corpo streamlined processes. You'd need a director, producer, couple of generalist digital artists with a capable supe, audio engineer, bunch of blackshirts and choreo and vocal directos/coaches. Assuming you're running a tight ship, i'd say it takes a couple of days onsite for dry runs plus one day for the show, and rest is a prep time for director to plan the show, artists to bang out assets, blackshirts to shake down the rigs and talents to drill everything down. Since most of the infra is inhouse and assets are done by what could be considered a doujin circle tier contractors, things should be cheap if you ignore massive costs of initial investment to get things up and running in the first place.
>>93046246How about... They sing their English ORIGINAL SONGS?Oh... Righthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZdLXELdF9QMaybe stop believing jaded koreans.
Why would you want to listen to english songs anyways? Just turn on the radio or visit any store in america.
>>93055430I agree with you. I prefer JP songs, but anons here will hate you if you have that opinion for some reason.
>>93055430thisIts only 3rd worlders wanting english songs since they think english is superior
