>the indie male sexpest experience
>>93076227
>>93076227pick your poison, male vtuber.either fagslopor impaled by unicorns
It's overly presumptuous to assume they're being a sexpest, but by that same token they should know and understand what all this shit entails. They're working in this business they know the problems the business has. Dude should consider himself lucky they say "no" instead of just ghosting his ass.Male vtubers, please: Find a lane and stay in it. Brotuber, fujobait, yappy little shit, doesn't matter. Just keep to the lane. If the lady wants to join you that's cool but trust them to judge whether the situation is or could be a problem.
>>93076452Hey man, we're here to bait. You can't give out sound advice like that.
>>93076227Its also because you're a literal who and probably ugly. If you're hot, popular, talented, or charismatic (eg Flayon), female vtubers will bend over backwards to meet up with you irl
>>93076227>reeeee poor me they won't interact with me. I'm not the problem, her fanbase is the problem!Bitch, just send her money like the rest of her simps. Unless you want special treatment or something? hmmm
>>93076603>her fanbase is the problem!I wonder how many chuubas would collab with guys if there would be no backlash to it
>>93076414>impaled by unicornskek
>>93076966I wonder how many vegan restaurants would put meat in their dishes if there would be no backlash to it
>>93076227why are you following males?
>>93076227He should compile a list of those women so I can subscribe to them.
>>93076227try being a femboy coder?
>>93077233KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
That's not why this specific male is being denied....
>>93077112Honestly a lot of them would. Businesses are obsessed with profit so if they could still get the vegan crowd while getting the meat eating crowd they'd do it
>>93076227Just put pronouns in the bio, works every time.
>>93077387Yeah he's a massive chud that replies to 'based' twitter users. He basically debuffed himself by associating with them.
just checked his twitter, his model is a loli and hes a male, and he talks about vtuber corpo drama.yeah, being a male was only a drop in a sea of boiling shit.
>>93077477Exactly the point, though. They WANT that vegan audience, it's what they want their brand to be. Statements like >the fans are a problem because if the fans they're courting weren't averse to male collabs they would be doing male collabs! i.e. >>93076966 are retarded for blaming the fans for basic consumer dynamics
>>93077477Thats a rudimentary, almost propogandistic, view of businesses. While its true that corporations grow because they value profits above all else, plenty of small business ventures are run by passion or ideology of the owner in the first place. A vegan restaurant is likely owned and run by a vegan, so they wouldnt want to sell meat in the first place out of an ideological position. Muslim, and some Indian, restaurants don't sell alcohol because it is against their religion, even though it's perfectly legal to do so.
>male>twink (?) avatarWomen seem fine collabing with male males, like Jurard with Nana Asteria. My experience is that twinks like Flayong, Aster and Kyo Kaneko before he graduated are all sex posts and assholes though. Twinks just tend to attract dudes who are like "i'm cute and non-threatening" to trick zoomergirls into bouncin n their 8 inch member.
>>93077916Common people have no room to have ideologies, it's a mistake of modern society that every tard has their politics in their bio and then you ask them and they can't even tell you where the pacific ocean is.
>>93076227>maleknow your fucking place, man!
>>93078376>how often do you see male vtubers swearing off collabing with female vtubersThey'd get banned for misogyny instantly
>>93078376I like menace but I don't like how her streams feel like a bunch of dudes circlejerking over the same girl>but that's what vtubers areBut I don't get that feeling with other vtubers, or it's not as pervasive.
>>93076227>male>acts like a woman
>>93078998Ideology is not synonymous as politics, it just means personal ideals and can be about something as mundane as wanting to only build and sell gamer PCs instead of laptops because they don't think laptops are good for gaming. Go back to /pol/.
>>93079054That's just how it is with EN fanbases, 同担拒否 is a foreign concept which is why they tend to have celeb fans that gain a fair amount of clout and implode when something happens and triggers infighting
>>93079140/thread
>>93078376she used to seek out collabs with /wvt/ males
>>93078998people became more aware because of the internets and the political split can be resumed with this.>The left cares more about rocks and trees than their own family. >The right cares more about their own family than rocks and trees.
>>93076452with male vtubers it really isn't. if they were approaching normal they'd just be a flesh streamer but even then they'd probably be a sexpest but it's slightly less likely.
>>93076227Careful, he used to be a proctor onahole until the doxx site groomer dropped him.https://x.com/MizutamariVT/status/1866255074298581368
>>93076452These are guys who for whatever reason, decided to pretend to be cute anime boys online instead of just streaming as themselves. You really think they're capable of doing something reasonable like what you're suggesting?
>>93081789The Proctor shit is funny when he has got no problem with Kuri Rinji because they share each other's dirt even though Kuri is a huge loli fanatic.
>>93076227If you are a guy and just want easy money I recommend you become a female vtuber. Voice changers have become crazy good and I assure you nobody will notice. I know of a couple of decently popular female vvtubers that are actually men and nobody has even the slightest idea.
>>93081698They're not aware though, it's literally just >red team popular>blue team popular>yellow team, green team, purple team are contrarians and unpopular but still existAnd then blue teamers and red teamers have their own internal divisions based on which player they prefer and think won the last Presidentbowl better.They cannot answer something as simple as tax policy.
>>93080124>>93079140My ideology is that I'm going to find you and rape you.
>>93076452>brotuberthis literally doesn't exist, the personallity type of a male who gets into vtubing is the same as those tiktok valorant e-boys, they do that shit hoping for female attention and always will try to act flirty when one is present, I would dare to say that male fleshies are a way lesser of an evil
>>93082849Please do, I could use the target practice
>>93083075>I would dare to say that male fleshies are a way lesser of an evilThey unironically are. It's fucked
Lmao
>>93083075>this literally doesn't exisJeff McBiceps
>>93083085>cuck american reply about using his basement gunsPucker up, boy.
>>93083318>instantly went to saying the other side does the samehe outed himself for free
>>93076227Do NOT look up the gender ratios for sex crimes.
>>93083390Not American
>>93083445did they already update the data with trans people involved?
>>93083075Aethelstan
>>93083532What's there to update? They're men.
>>93076227they're all whores missing out on kino
>>93076227sounds like a personal problem
>>93083553almost instantly started dating a vtuber, he's just successful on his objective, but also absolutely fucked her career
>>93083873And what of her career? People dropped her as soon as she quit the VShojo clique.
>>93083923she was doing fine before almost every stream she did was something with him, now she stopped but the numbers already tanked
>>93081789holy fuck, that proctor dude sounds like your typical virtue signaling neckbeard
>>93084226There was a thread recently where he got massively dunked on and his users have been turning on him lately on his own site due to outright retarded posts and Discord power tripping.Who knows, maybe this year might see that shit hole of a site splinter off and break away from Proctor, it is after all a Kiwi Farms split. >>92741229
>>93081789wow, they're all terrible people, not surprising
>>93084731jeezas christ, he literally typed a bunch of text and at the same time said literally nothing
>>93083075yeah, literally the only reasons a guy would become a vtuber over a regular streamer is they're either trying to score anime e-girl pussy, or they're like a super autistic furry or tranny (still also sexpests)
>>93085121Everyone and their dog wants to be one these days but the VTuber bubble has burst.
>>93083075There's plenty, they just are on Twitch and have anywhere from 1 to 15 viewers. Not everyone wants to be a vtuber to be a harem protagonist, some just like the idea of being anime and there's a hell of a lot more genres than romance.
>>93081789how long before proctor is outed trying to groom an underage vtuber?
>>93076452I don't care if they aren't sexpests. I won't allow these faggots to befriend my oshis and start dming each other if I can help it. It should be me but I wasn't born with a silver spoon so fuck you.
>>93083873I don't think she cares considering she's rich as fuck and now can start a family with chad
>>93084731>>93081789Proctor is a parasite of the vtubing sphere and I expect he will get exposed big time eventually for being the pretentious freak that he is. He knows he is walking on very thin ice. That ice is going to crack open and he will fall into the water and never come back up.
>>93085190I mean, seeing how Koinu aka Goro from SVP was in his DMs and Discord, it's only a matter of time. Probably worth checking his hard drives regardless.
>>93085299This image is retarded, there's a big difference between find a vtuber model sexy and being against actual women whoring themselves on onlyfans/fansly
>>93085241Her man isn't a chad, he's a goofy faggot
>>93076227die sexpest die
A man wanting to date or get closer with a women in the same hobby space or with similar interests is fine and normal (this is a dirty word here). However the stigma understandable when you consider fans have preferences for content and vtubers, mainly the female ones have brands and images to uphold. This guy just needs to treat vtubing as a business and move accordingly. The odd feminist/crystal cafe lite attitude this board had is hilarious though. Men can't catch a break even from other men.
>>93076227just stop sexpesting
>>93084731Buzzfeed articles have more worth than that post
These threads are always great because dudes will type out shit sounding like they're radfems but without a single ounce of self reflection. Read some Dworkin atleast.
>>93086259Opinions from Proctor's onahole do not count.
>>93085241the guy was kinda fun for some time, but something happened that he became a clout goblin overnight
>>93085798>tall>buff>handsome>white>goofy with perfect comedic timingsounds like chad to me
>>93081789>>93078376>>93076227>>93083318>>93084731BRO TAKE THE INDIE PILLSTOP WATCHING CORPOSLOP BRO>the indiepill
>>93086171It's only fine if you're attractive. ugly losers cant catch a break no matter where they go
>>93083318Unfathomably basedFemoid sexpests btfo
>>93086457He still isn't Chad. I'd anally rape him with zero problem. He's a weak goofy faggot and I'm taller.
https://x.com/LordAethelstan/status/1414744234888884227Just go to the gym. It's that easy bro
>>93086630Aethel, why do you come so defensive to a thread about male vtubers being sexpests but when people are shitting on your gf you're nowhere to be seen
>>93086701>>93086572Are you a babegate victim?
>>93086761Never really actively watched nyanners no, but I know you get an ego boost for thinking people care that much
>>93085195Uh oh, 1view melty
>use feminine pronouns>type like a woman>do voice training reps so you sound like an anime character>tl:dr, troon out but not actuallyIf you still get shut down for collabs, call them a transphobe.Modern problems require modern solutions.
>>93083318Unironically though, what can a male VTuber offer that would be worth the risk? Almost none of them do better than what you would get with regular streamers even in general.They'd really need to be something that stands apart: maybe be very dynamic visually (like, making new outfits all the time,) or someone who makes videos normally but also does VTubing stuff for funsies.
>>93088599>call them a transphobewow the twitter warriors would get so riled up, this literally does nothing in vtubing
>>93076227If real face of those men can attract pussy they wouldn't rely on vtuber avatar. Therefore almost all indie male are sexpest
>>93076452>Don't trust vtuber womenNot a bad advice
>>93076966If they provide no gfe their would be no backlash. Indie women collab with men all the time. Only greedy bitches took unicorn money via gfe afraid of their anger.
>>93081980>for whatever reason, decided to pretend to be cute anime boysI genuinely don’t get why any man would hide behind an anime avatar. If they’re that insecure, just don’t use facecam. There are plenty of successful streamers that don’t show their face.
>>93086457He wouldn't be with nyanners if he was a chad, he has to know about her past
>>93077477That's why you'll become a successful businessman. Go out there and open a shop with that attitude
>>93077916Your reply explained why corporation love atheism. Atheism = money worshipper, and the rich enslave them
>>93081789Who want to get involved with those mentally ill faggots?
>>93076227>Check his tweeter >DramatuberI don't think being male was the main reason why he got turned down so many times.
>>93089251You fucking wish aspie, nobody wants to see people they like mingle with shit
>>93085798He's good at fucking though, she praised him for that
>>93086171Jesus, how hard it is to not do it on screen. Can they just, like, get a room?
>>93076227just like how women wont date down they also wont collab down, sorry bro got to get your CCV up and they come running, just look at vedel
>>93088599This doesn't work on women. They're only allies right up until it affects them personally and then they just brush off all xphobe accusations
>>93076270True and real. Vtubing isn't a dating app. Vtubing is my goyslop entertainment.Evaluate if your relationships are entertainment for your audience and if the answer is no then kill yourself.
>>93089698Oddly enough vtubing functions exactly like dating app. If you're a literal who you get ignored. If you got clout, everyones trying to get on your dick
We're not a welcoming place?
>>93089095It's perfectly acceptable for artists to do it, especially nsfw. I know at least 2 indies, 1 is female but love gore and 1 cunny lover chinaman. They just want to hide their real indentity while interacting with the community.
>>93076227Do you just stalk random indies or something to get these obscure tweets or do you just follow every male you find so your feed is full of them?I'm always baffled how anons here find some way to seethe about someone with an audience you could count on one hand.
>>93089731no vtubing has never been a welcoming place even for women you have to act a certain way to maximize profits and ccv
>>93089727The point is if you shit where you eat for content it better be worthwhile for your audience.
>>93089731Who told you that? Ur groomer?
>>93089731Some communities in the old days are welcoming. The as a whole, it has never been welcoming.If you're not Japanese, you weren't even considered as a vtuber back then.
>>93089928But* as a whole
>>93078376Didn't xQc swear off of ever collabbing with girls? You won't find any in the western vtuber scene though since there really aren't any big males.
>>93081789>TVAI fucking wonder why he's blacklisted.Anyone who'd willingly go there in the first place deserves to be booted out of the scene.
>>93077740>and he talks about vtuber corpo drama.aaaaaand there it is.
>>93079012not just banned, outright deplatformed across all social media
>>93076227oh hey it's the guy who defends minus8's attraction to real children
>>93089731>"Pre-Debut">VtweeterEvery single time
>>93078376Well, if I were a male VTuber, I’d swear off female collabs and interactions. I'd still be a sexpest, maybe, I mean it's in our DNA as males, but I'd sexpest my viewers instead. Less hassle that way. Honestly, it’s even funnier to imagine that being a unicorn-friendly male VTuber could attract sex-pesting female vtubers, if they exist.
>>93089778It's filipinos or SEAsians from Muslim-majority countries that always seethe about them for some reason (sometimes to the point of schizoposting)
>>93086465No the indiepill is /lig/, dummy.
there really is a lack of male tubers that don't fall in either sexy bfe asmr fujoshi bait or sexy cool gojo that will fuck your oshi.the male tubers that use female avatars are just embarassing, those don't even count.
>>93088599Women don't actually like babiniku/trannies, doing so is only so you can catfish/trap men.
>>93089503/thread
>>93091124You're basically describing the nijiEN males before vox had reimu on his stream and lost all his chinese femcel money
>>93091124>Honestly, it’s even funnier to imagine that being a unicorn-friendly male VTuber could attract sex-pesting female vtubers, if they exist.Azeru was like this before he debuted, I don't know if he's still like this but if you can do good voice acting impressions of anime twinks that women like and make your own OC, then market yourself for yumejoshi, you will attract female sexpests. Avoid implying you hate fatness/obesity, or even subtly insist that you really love fat, unloved lonely women and you'll definitely get there if everything else is in order. You will obviously need a good microphone setup and an anime twink OC.
>>93091185>the male tubers that use female avatars are just embarassing, those don't even count.1000% agreed, babiniku (especially western ones) are extremely cringe and the only ones I see getting any kind of success are the ones that lean hard into goonershit and the types of closeted faggots that are too degenerate to care if they're getting trapped by other men. Almost all of them are rotten/yabe, I can't even think of a single seiso babiniku that isn't a 2view.
>>93076227this shows how the women pretend to be fake for the sake of taking the viewers money and stay popular
>>93089095Pretty much just fun skits or fucking around with environments. Judge Magni is probably the height of what male vtubing should be at this point.
>>93091410>>Honestly, it’s even funnier to imagine that being a unicorn-friendly male VTuber could attract sex-pesting female vtubers, if they exist.
>>93086630Looks like buffed xqc
>>93076452Anon female collabs are one of best ways for male vtubers to grow, it ruins the females but it's good for the dudes
>>93088599If someone did all this, he probably will find out he want to collab and date male more than female
>>93076227Just watched his video to check his voice:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzSZ2SsIgX8Ok now tell me if you're female vtuber, do you wanna collab with him
>>93092782He sound exactly like a tranny
>>93089731There's no vtuber community. You would never say the fleshie community either.
>>93089095>no being a fag>only lust over sexy female game characters like a normal person>play good games>be good at games>be funny>dont be a lefty>dont have a gay and overdesigned model>dont use a faggot voiceso basically be a normal, healthy man with male school anime protag model
>>93083318How do I get a female sex pest to sex pest me?
>>93086171This isnt a hobby, this is an entertainment industry and in every single entertainment industry sexpests weaseled their way in to roofie and rape and sex trade the womenEvery one of these creeps dreams of being the next P Diddy and would be posting about how chuds hate fun and parties and dont want women and children going to them because they're just evil
>>93084731>this this guy is some highly followed dude>for once I try to go to this tweet to see what the comments are saying at this slopL M A OI have more followers and impressions than he does on avg. What a joke of a person.
>>93089255I couldn't give the benefit of the doubt to western male vtubers for some reason, but on the japanese side some vtuber artists/riggers make their own models and it's basically an advertisement, which I think is a valid reason why they would have a vtuber model
>>93093884Ther's this delusion that male vtubers are high status like female vtubers but they arent, they're bottom of the barrel scum who couldnt even make it as minecraft/smash bros child groomers
>>93076227>retard grifter doesn't understand what vtuber fanbases are
>>93083075maybe not on the western sideJP scene is full of dudes that just want to sit down and have a few beers with the boys
>>93083820Vedal is special
>>93083075The japs actually do the brotuber thing pretty well. The issue is that vtubing has solidly become entrenched as a female or incredibly nerdy thing in the west so only the turbonerds or the sexpests get into in from the male side.
>>93076227collab beggar.
>>93084731this dude is clearly too unstable to function outside of twitter
>>93076227>tranny
>>93097596All you need to do is visit his forum and see his recent posts, it's only a matter of time before he implodes one way or another.
>>93076227Now! I'm getting the word...
>>93076227This obsession with collabing in the vtuber community is retarded either way.
>>93076227Kinda make me remember dude with a frog as profile pic that complained of how the girls will not socialize with him for being Lankan. I believe he was related to twitch
>>93076227>why won't the cute girls let me slide into their DMs and collab with me? :( :( :( :(>but also makes sexual tweets that throw up red flags
>>93100954>sexpest is sexpestBig shock
>>93101005but he just wants to be friends with them...
>>93101074All male vtubers act like this
>>93101111Not all of them. Nice quads though.
>>93100226>>93100954>>93101074What's wrong with this? He's behaving like the average female vtuber, why would female vtubers avoid him?
>>93100407Okay, so how exactly do you grow without collabs then? Do tell us.
>>93082089Proctor being a hypocrite as always, imagine my shock!
>>93102244Make good watchable content?
>>93102173>no one has a problem with girls yuribait with other girls because it's not serious>no one has a problem with males yaoibait with other males because it's not serious>people have a problem with males sexpesting female vtubers because time and time again they've shown themselves to take it serious and act like creeps harassing peopleit was only last year that he had a sexual assault incident after someone made the absolutely asinine decision to offcollab with a male, thinking they were friends and had innocent intentions
>>93081698this highlights the real actual problem so perfectly but in a way that only people who already get it will see, which sucks. my man, it's not "rocks and trees," it's the ability to think ahead: "oh fuck, if the rocks and trees are gone my family is going to fucking die in the most horrible way imagineable. wtf i like rocks and trees now."
>>93081789every time
>>93083820>>93097112is this guy literally the only mate vtuber that isn't a sexpest in the vtubing sphere? i've seen him always constantly be around women but never be acccused of sexpesting
>>93103889Blew up too fast so all the female vtubers just sexpest him instead as he has more clout than they do
>>93104044>all the female vtubers just sexpest him instead as he has more clout than they dobut...that doesn't get any backlash? and he's fine with that? doesn't he have an irl girlfriend considering he doesn't even respond to that shipping shit?
>>93103889See >>93089095 >>93089762He's secondarily a VTuber and primarily a guy who makes something.
>>93076452>It's overly presumptuous to assume they're being a sexpestA male vtuber not having sexpest-ish motivations is the equivalent of thinking the fat "nice guy" actually does just want to be friends with the stacy.
>>93093837Be virtual chad:>have deep husky voice>have 8.5+/10 charisma stat
>>93105339actually>have deep husky voiceis usually more than enough to lure lonely sisters
>>93097112This is quite a hot white guy. Imagine actually looking like this...
>>93105538if fullgut orboid can do it
>>93104631Maybe they are gay and just want female friends? Although if they think of themselves as female and most women being bi-sexual... Nah, forget it. Don't trust the fags either.
>>93103508Hilarious, any more memes like that, other than the wood chipper?
>>93106449
>>93095827>Ther's this delusion that male vtubers are high status like female vtubersFucking where? I've never heard this sentiment.
>>93076452I mostly agree that it'd be entitled to think you deserve collabs or anything with a field that's been so female-dominated for so long. They must know that there are guys who get annoying about talents, any empathetic person would realize that shit is volatile, and should be happy with the collabs they do get. Any male vtuber that has grown and not gotten controversy has done so through doing well and word spreading that they're not a dick.
Women here to debunk everything 1. Using athel as an example of brotuber is retarded him showing his face defeats the point of being a vtuber same as half of these indie people. No one cares if your a Chad or hot women just entertain people.2. The guy in the op should just focus on his own content instead of worrying about collabs. You need to show your own worth as an entertainer without collab partners. It's a weird thing with indies that they keep worrying about that instead of just making friends naturally.3.male vtubers appeal to women the same way girl vtubers do. Yes the guys are not as popular but there is still appeal.4. I would not call vedal a Vtuber yes he is the creator of neuro but I don't consider him one.Why do people keep bringing up looks and whatever other retarded reasons that don't have to do with vtubing.
>>93108138>2.He likely is only vtubing for the collabs with women.
>>93108138>4. I would not call vedal a Vtuber yes he is the creator of neuro but I don't consider him one.He literally has his own vtuber model the fuck are you talking about
>>93076227>I can't believe all these women doing lesbian porn are rejecting me from starring in their films just 'cause I'm a MANm8, the auidence don't want you. The femcel audience you want (NEED) to cultivate in order to succeed in this industry also don't like whining babies on their TL. Man should fucking start practicing that CorpseHusband Voice, a British Accent or whatever and then start doing ASMR content.
>>93108238I mean who knows for sure on this statement. He had a women cohost on his podcast thing and from what I have watched the guy isn't creepy.
>>93108443Any guy with a loli model is creepy.
>>93108304Bro the main attraction is neuro for the streams. Yes vedal is there but I just consider him a guy with a live 2d model and that's it. Unless he just starts doing content by himself then ok
>>93108304>He literally has his own vtuber model the fuck are you talking aboutThis is like saying the annoying orange is a vtuber 'cause he has an avatar
>>93108489I think his whole character is supposed to be a femboy
>>93108512>>93108588Let me pull up the fucking definition for you all so that you can see what being a Vtuber actually means.>Wikipedia definition of a vtuber: A VTuber or virtual YouTuber is an online entertainer who uses a virtual avatar generated using computer graphics.>MyVTuber definition of a vtuber: a content creator that uses an animated character to stream, create video content, and interact with their audience on social media>Qustodio definition of a vtuber: VTubers use a computer-generated avatar in videos, rather than showing their face.You can check other definitions of Vtubers, but they'll all come to the same conclusion:>Vtubers are content creators who use a virtual avatar as their go-to brand for themselvevsAnd since Vedal uses a virtual avatar as his brand, that means he is thus a Vtuber.I'm not saying he's the 'main attraction' to the streams, that's an entirely different topic that isn't related to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that he is categorized as a Vtuber as he uses a virtual avatar.
>>93108837He's not a Vtuber just a guy who uses model. If Mr.Vedal starts just doing content by himself without neuro then I will change my mind.
>>93091185The only good male vtuber I've seen is Takahata
>>93109123>He's not a Vtuber just a guy who uses model.so what's a vtuber?
>>93108837No. You're categorising him as a vtuber in a context where it's autistic to do so. The meaning of a word is its use in language. The word vtuber is not used in reference to all online entertainers who use a virtual avatar. This is obviously true. Consider the examples of the annoying orange, fucking old-school youtubers who had some gay fucking avatar and called themselves the pondering possum or whatever. You'd have to be brain delayed to think otherwise.
>>93109123>He's not a Vtuber just a guy who uses model.He's using a virtual model as the substitute for his face, and provides content and entertainment to others. He is literally a vtuber.Just because he isn't doing content by himself doesn't mean he isn't one.If we go by that logic, fuwamoco can't be considered vtubers because they aren't creating content by themselves, which is wholy wrong.And since the situation with Vedal is similar to theirs, then the conclusion that Vedal is not a Vtuber is false.>>93109332I'm literally using the exact definition of a fucking vtuber already, manA vtuber is:>Someone who uses a virtual model>Is an entertainerVedal is:>Someone who uses a virtual model>Is an entertainerHe fits the criteria for being a vtuberI don't get why you guys are so stubborn about this; he is literally a vtuber
>>93109315 A virtual entertainer who would do short format content while being immersive with their persona
>>93109576I agree
>>93108138oppai or abayo
>>93108138How do you deter women trying to sexpest you? Do some women get upset if you put your foot down and say you don't wanna collab too often with them?
>>93109679Play League of Legends 24/7. Worked for Aster.
>>93109569Bau Bau sisters whole stick is being demon dog twins. Trying to compare them to vedal is asinine . They are dual streamers
>>93109679>How do you deter women trying to sexpest you?NTA butYou don't lolOkay serious answer, the most you can probably do is strike firstBy that I mean screenshot and record all the shit you guys have been talking about(moreso what she's talking about) and then once you get enough ammunition on her you tell her to fuck off.If she doesn't and/or starts trying to frame you, just release the evidence that she was the one harassing you and making you uncomfortable.Sure some white knight cucks might defend her over you either because she's a girl or you're a guy, but majority will probably side with you.And even if that doesn't happen, then her career would still pretty fucked because of the accusations.Or you could just try to ignore her and see what happensMaybe just ignoring her dms and shit will work; also try to go on the down low for a few months whilst you're doing that so she loses interest in you
>>93081789>Male>In the faggot ass vta grooming discordNo wonder nobody wants to collab with this retard. I don't even care about the pedophilia accusations, but anyone willingly engaging with vta should hang from a streetlight
>>93109679I mean the stuff between vedal and the women are just banter. I don't really get it either but when you are close friends you just act dumb around each other. If its an actual crazy women who's harassing you then leave her on read or block don't get into drama with people who can't take no for an answer
>>93109792>Bau Bau sisters whole stick is being demon dog twins. Trying to compare them to vedal is asinine . They are dual streamersAnd Neuro and Vedal's whole shtick is being a programmer father dealing with his AI daughter. That's the main attraction for many people. So basically dual streamers. ...Which is...similar to the dog sisters.
>>93109992I respect your words but I don't agree it's not the same thing. Vedal and nuero are not doing kayfabe he is just ovexaggerating his personality like how normal streamers do. Maybe its similar but not exactly
>>93102244be a likeable person. find a niche and stick to it. whore yourself out. asmr
>>93076227Yet Temari Mari has no issues at all. Rly maeks u tink...:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:
>>93109679Start ranting about alpha fucks beta bucks, the 80/20 rule, mewing, how you're such a nice guy and everyone else is such a bitch, feminism, penis size inferiority complex, and just about any other incel topic you can think of to become S grade pussy repellent.
>>93108138>Women hereUnfortunate
>>93111330this is the way.
>>93076452Honestly why wouldn't you first try and know the other person offline, see if you actually work well together and then invite them to a collab. At this point why can't we admit that girls can also use the "sexpest" excuse just to get attention. We have this thing happening in the real world and we accept it but somehow in the vtuber world it doesn't work like that?
>>93092519>>93107774A male content creator who can collab with women and is perceived as "just friends" is generally viewed as "safe".
>>93110287There are multiple vtubers that do a grand total of zero kayfabe. Are they not vtubers either?
>>93104100He's a single father of twins, women mean nothing to him anymore...
>>93083394>Kyoresu isn't a sexpest because..well she might actually fuck me and she is based for that. When/if i get rejected she sucks,is a whore and a bad sexpest though!
>>93111568It doesnt work like that because male vtubers are low status and female vtubers are high statusFalse accusations are usually about leeching off someone more powerful and using their name to get attention or to gain leverage over them. Female celebs dont accused Gus the binman or whatever because they're so far beneath them
>>93111918>how fat is she>is that why Proctor is into her>how fat is your momGets me every fucking time.
>>93111918>the hands are a giveaway of how fat someone is>implyingI'm not fit and my fingers make me look like some dainty flowergirl.
>>93112128Its not about the person but the concept in itself is something that creates the reaction needed to boost yourself. >>93100954nevermind though, sorry for trying be on this guy's side. No matter how much i like womb tattoos this made me vomit inside my mouth. THanks, no thanks, he can go
>>93111918Not sure if he got banned for calling his mom fat or for getting a vtuber to leave his groomercordI'm sure this dude would sacrifice his mom if it meant getting more people to take him seriously
>>93108138I honestly see the value in creating original content in relation with another person. Usually doing ping pong between the two does create a good atmosphere. I realized while watching Fauna's last stream just how pathetic people in the chat were. Nobody was interacting with them, the more of them shouting and superchating the sadder it was. At the end of the day chat is in its own bubble and no matter how hard they try it won't change. The only good way for interaction is between two person who are of the same status in this case both have models
>>93089095>what can a male VTuber offer that would be worth the risk?Nothing. But for a naive/desperate girl, something.
>>93111818NTA but you're getting far too hung up on this. They really aren't the same because Neuro has no autonomy. She is an AI, not a human. That said, I do believe the idea is similar. It's Neuro's show, but Vedal is the driving force behind it.
>>93112530Well that's faunas environment I don't watch her streams. Ui mama has great banter with her chat as an example. I'm not saying you can't do collabs but most of the time it will be one person creating their own content not just having another person unless you are dual streamers
>>93112209god it's still so funny.
>>93111818Mori Calliope, the inventor of vtubing, has officially stated vtubers are just like normal streamers except they look like herVedal doesn't look like her and thus is not a vtuber. No man is.
>>93108138>Women here>no tits with timestampHow are we supposed to believe you?I could very well claim that I'm also a woman and that I disagree with everything you just typed
>>93111818I wouldn't consider someone like JaidenAnimations a vtuber despite the fact she started using an avatar on stream. It's just a matter of priorities.
>>93113870If you disagree with me then fine??? I'm just putting out my opinion. I don't need to show my body when im just trying to give out words on the thread.
>>93113910People just want to call everything vtubing now.
>>93114048>???Guys, she's clear. She's either a woman or Quinn, they know their stuff
>>93113910Jaiden rarely streams and her STA channel is what takes up most of her time, so sure. But then you got someone like Fredrick Knudsen, where Down the Rabbit Hole has taken a back seat to his streaming and there's as much kayfabe in his streaming as is there in his channel name (which is his real name).
>>93076227>>93081789>Not followed by anyone you’re followingthank god
>>93114048Post tits or don't mention you're woman, that's all
>>93114216Whatever you want to call what Fred has become, it's a fucking embarrassment
>>93081980>>93089255Can't you say the same for women? It's why normalfags still swear that vtubers must look hideous.
>>93081789Proctor wants to be the Joshua Moon of vtubing so bad but he's way too petty and personally invested in the shit he's just supposed to cover and archive. Just an embarrassing specimen.
>>93114308I was giving perspective on how I feel about the male Vtuber stuff dummy
>>93111918
>>93103418The one smart anon in this thread who realizes why we're fucked.
>>93114560the fact you think this is exonerating is fucking insane.LITERALLY saying your opinion matters more because vagine, get over yourself.
>>93085544There is no difference in this case, fansly became the home for vtubers to whore their models, they keep their privacy and the buyers still goon, everyone wins.
>>93114640I'm just a dumb person on the internet I didn't say. "I'm a women so I know everything and your opinion on the matter isn't important " I said this is my perspective on the male Vtuber stuff.
>>93114560You should give me a perspective of the soles of your feet
>>93076227Good, fuck you faggot. Be a normal streamer like most men.
>>93114852>I'm just a dumb person on the internetyes, we can tell
>>93114852>still doesn't get itnever will at this point, astounding.
stop samefagging and simping for yourself fag
>>93114640Why are you so angry anon?
>>93114989because I assumed people collectively figured this out like 15 years ago.basic internet etiquette 101 shit here.
>>93114960Like you are actually contributing anything meaningful to the conversation. I care about vtubing so I wanted to talk about it.
>>93115178You made a baseless assumption when the context was not about being better over another gender
>>93083318Just learned of this absolute faggot and I already hate him
>>93115178I think you don't even know when you are supposed to apply this basic etiquette, bet you don't even remember where it came from
>>93115299either the context includes your gender or it doesn't. you can't bring it up and then claim it doesn't matter.maybe next time you'll just skip to the giving-your-opinion part to avoid this "confusion." understand?
>>93115514I said a women fan perspective you turned it into something more
>>93083318These people just don't understand female vtubers are worth something only if their model has good anime boobs. Look at Zen, he's a man but his female model is hot so he found success
>>93115605Anon, on the off chance you are legit a female talent, step away from the bait because they are farming you. You are missing 20+ years of chan tradition.If you're counter baiting though, good one
>>93115182stop falling for it dingus. you keep replying seriously to people shitposting. if you keep it up i will revoke your pc privilages for the next 12 hours
>>93115605>at work, boss asks for opinions from workers>"I think X," says one anon.>"Well as a woman, I think Y," says a second anon.What is to be inferred here? What vital information is being imparted by qualifying the opinion being stated with an identity marker? What could the individuals in the hypothetical be thinking and feeling during this interaction?Something for you to consider, maybe, especially with your superior feminine emotional intelligence.
>>93115736No I'm not baiting this is cringe to say but watching vtubers has given me a reason to keep going to a degree.im glad to see others have this same feeling as me. So I mean what I'm saying and I want people to keep supporting their favorites and have fun in chat. I'll stop replying to these individuals since they don't want a fair discussion.
>>93103889There's a few others. But they're either autistic, only a vtuber incidentally, or gay.
>>93116018>but watching vtubers has given me a reason to keep going to a degree.Holy retardImagine having to depend on mentally ill women ranting and raving inside your screen whilst you pay for them to continue talking absolute bullshit is what you need in order to not an heroKEK
>>93115877noooooo she won't have enough princess points for tendies!
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>>93076227>the op obsession with cocks experience.
>>93104631What about me? Pretend you were my discord bud of a a few years and you factually knew that I'm too autistic to have sexual interest in a girl (but I do have romantic / companionship needs). Would you trust that my main motive for streaming is to show off my autismo game 99% of the time?This isn't an argument - just a hypothetical.
>>93089731>>93089785I always hated the term 'vtuber community'.Why not make a CSP communityOr an OBS communityA movie watcher communityEvery tool or medium is a community with me as its arbiter, hoi doi doi
>>93083318he's not wrongfemales collab with a male present usually ends up as>[sexpest harassment to illicit reaction from male]>[shipping clipfarming initiated by female]>[tmi sexual information about female's own body]this happens with both western and jp too
>>93109644The Annoying Orange is factually one of the first vtubers, that's not even taking the piss.
>>93117731by your dumbass logic this is also a vtuber. it's only missing an object to cover the mouth and eyes https://youtu.be/2WW1-N9Q5KA
>>93118718That's more a a vtuber than the self acclaimed watchdogs that use the term "vtuber community" unironically.Should start coining "community pests" as a term.
>>93117652There are vhs clubs and shit like thatIt's not absurd to think the more niche your specialization the closer you would be to other usersThe problem is where it's a literal job at a company for the driving interest parties so no it's not an organic community at all
>>93118718Your only logic is that anime rig = vtuberI would joke and say someone could just be keemstar with an anime rig, intentionally stirring up shit and calling irl people the n-word, but we have one of those already
>>93120221>It's not absurd to think the more niche your specialization the closer you would be to other usersYour not wrong about having a similar interest bringing you closer to others, but that still makes community a misnomer. These things exist on a spectrum, such as a fandom being closer to a community than a hobby, but those two things only have the requirement of having an interest in it. Any notion of people belonging in or out is considered gatekeeping (right or wrong), and just because someone has the same interest doesn't mean that they like it the same way for for the same reason, or that they all get along.For a couple of examples I'd like to point to any instance of a Xwitter artist stating "the art community" when every website has its own culture and not even everyone on that site has to be held to the standards of others. That term is always thrown around by people wanting to punch up for internet points, or they want to watchdog what content is or isn't allowed. Their motivation is at least partially clout instead of the hobby itself. Or when Pewdiepie was fucking around with simple 3D rigs, 1 views and vtweeters were readily jumping at "we can't allow this alt right nazi into our community" when he's not even in the same playground as them. Vtubing has a cargo cult effect where it was started as a hard roleplay thing for Japanese hobbyists before it shifted into roleplay + idol, and then idol + character. Then when americans looked at it, some of them went "Oh that seems cute I'll do that" and just tried it out before potentially going straight into being a personality or irl streamer + anime mascot. But this isn't to get into a highlander effect, this is about expressing what a wide breadth of people are getting into vtubing for entirely different reasons that it hardly makes a cohesive community. People who use that term are either seeking to belong (which nothing wrong with that mostly) or be arbiters when they're not in charge of who turns a rig on and hits go live while many others don't give them two cents.A general or a specific chuuba's audience is much more of a community than the hobby in its entirety.
>>93121088+ also, you don't belong to a community only because you have an anime rig and hit go live
>>93114048>I'm just putting out my opinion>>93114560>I was giving perspectiveBelow you were stating your opinion as fact. >>93108138>Women here to debunk everythingYour opinion would hold more weight in this conversation if you're a woman, but especially a female Vtuber (and even more especially if you have been approached by a sexpest including the one in the OP). As it has been established for decades here, "there are no girls on the Internet", not only because it is ("was" for the Internet in general, "is" for this board) a male-dominated space, but because it requires proof that most don't provide. Simply stating you're a woman isn't enough, you need to post tits and a timestamp/post number to prove legitimacy, then anons will respect your opinion while fapping to your body.Lately anons are fine with just voice recordings, so even vocaroos are enough.
GoodGraduate all male vtubers
>>93114496Pretty much, he also makes lies up about people or corpos if it suits the agenda that he wants to push. That's why many of his users are getting sick of him and his so called "insider information". He also recently gave a personal friend a mod role in his Discord and they then went on a power trip and started banning people who didn't agree with him.I think we are seeing the slow downfall of Proctor. We shall have to see if he bails out before he inevitably implodes, users push him out (perhaps a split-off from TVA) or he gets called out by a VTuber for doxxing or grooming, maybe both.
The people getting mad at this guy for talking about it were going to give the story to, you guessed it, False!https://x.com/MizutamariVT/status/1876396829056639437>it's okay if Purple Keemstar does it, but NOT YOU!
>retards arguing over some random who twittardthat's really pathetic of you guys, even more than the rest of the people browsing this board
>>93081980you underestimate how a lot of men are insecure about themselves, why do you think "self-improvement for men" youtubers are so popular?
THE MALE SEXPEST COLLAPSE SINGULARITY IS NEARBYSAY YOUR PRAYERS YOU DISGUSTING 'HUMANS'
>>93122401>He also recently gave a personal friend a mod role in his Discord >itsrealLMAO
>>93122401I hope it's a quick crash rather than a slow fall.
>>93128738>Got his buttbuddy to mod for him because he's too much of a cuck to put his foot downChances of this being an alt so he can powertrip without hurting his rep?
>>93129564How many pretentious faggots does he hang around?
>>93128738>TVA is damaging Proctor's mental stateCan't stop laughing. Who's feeling sorry for him? He created that monster.
>>93130857>His dumb gay forum is better than posting insider information disguised as rrats and citing god as your source /here/Imagine actually believing this
>>93130857>believes in free speech>bans someone that called kirsche fatNrhd
>>93077740That's what every vtuber does, man or woman. It's just a lot of women do it in private, whispering at each other like the high school bitches they wish they still were.
>>93091124>If I were a male vtuber First mistake. Listen, any aspiring homos, just don't. Just become a flesh streamer. Or stream without an image at all. Just don't be a vtuber. >B-But I'm a fucking ugly bastar--So are Caseoh and Asmongold. If you are actually interesting and streaming is your calling, you won't need to hide behind the mask of a homo to do it. If you're only doing it to try to get with girls...they will chew you up and spit you out. You will get a Collab with them, maybe...but next time they'll invite you along to be a third wheel to a superior homo they found. You'll go from "heh, I'm cucking her fans...she totally loves me." To being cucked live.
>>93132114or just be so autistically inclined to one part of something and dont interact properly with people AT all, act like a fucking mole that comes out of the sun to say hi to its creator and then dig itself back to the undercrust of the hellhole they came from
>>93132114>If you are actually interesting and streaming is your calling, you won't need to hide behind the mask of a homo to do itIt's not about hiding behind a mask, it's to be anime. And unlike a lot of male vtubers, the model will be appealing to straight men. Any woman that appears in chat, I will ban immediately. I'm here to hang with the bros.
>>93133087>The model will be appealing to straight menThe only people you'll attract to watch a male vtuber are faggots.
>>93133262There are at least 2 male en vtubers with a primarily straight male audience. I'll get them.
>>93102472https://booru.allthefallen.moe/data/original/14/15/1415160dab00c275d59b30093f685487.mp4
>>93136320fuck you i knew someone was going to link the ATF post LOOOOOOOOL
>>93100954How tf people said this is a femboy, it a tranny
>>93134758You're deluding yourself if you think they're straight.
>>93136320I LOVE BLUERAY
>>93133087The problem is that dudes in anime are likeable because they fucking do things. Vtubers inherently can't accomplish much with l2d besides just being there.
>>93083553this HAS to be bait lmao
>>93111918Takodachi's too based for this world
>>93139413The guy's in Cromartie don't do anything and half the panels in the manga don't even have backgrounds. They're appealing because what they say is funny. Vtubing can be that easily.
>>93076562>If you are entertaining others will like you huh crazy
