>>93226605
BAU BAU

>>93226503
Your intention was to buy attention on twitter.

>>93226099
why don't they just play it again on switch. it's not a long game you can 100% it in 4 hours.

>>93226605
BAU BAU

>>93226617
Man, sister are so mindbroken by FWMC all they can do is shit this place up, have 0 going for themselves in life, sad really

I’m going to make this thread even worse until Fuwamoco get their shit together.

I want them to play Animal Crossing and have solo streams of it. Whenever they have downtime I want them sneaking in a guerilla comfy stream with the ruffians.

I genuinely prefer JP collabs and appearances in Lives to regular game streams. I am the ideal ruffian

>>93226514
Fubuki had the same exact collab with Patra.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBZ78MctUgg
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/comfyfoxinn_asmrvoice

>>93226660
>FWMC's words are shitpost
The absolute state of wuffians

>>93226660
I think this shitposting anti is reaching Ennacuck levels of mindbroken. All over two cute dog girls. Sad!

I have no spine and infinite money. I can't speak Japanese but I never complain because I'm hopelessly in love with them and believe I can still end up with them. I am the ideal Ruffian.

>>93226633
I stopped watching speedruns because even new non-srm strats aren't as interesting as women trying to game

>>93226686
Me too, I'm also not a like schizo I'm immunized from all shitposting angles. I just enjoy their content in a healthy way and don't feel entitled to their attention or time. Feels pretty good.

>>93226633
That version they are playing on had mamapuppy's save data on it. It is just nostalgic.

>>93226752
Fuck it. hololive OOT randomizer race

>>93226810
God I wish but Nintendo are faggots and Cover is spineless when it comes to perms

Ruffians are fucking pathetic holy shit.

>>93226851
make it a charity event and tell Nintendo to eat a dick and try to take it down

Why is it always Fuwawa playing now? Are they trying to make her more independent in 2025?

>>93226854
What got you mad this time? DId they just get announced for yet another big event or big time collab stream or win another award as the best vtuber?

>>93226904
FUUHAHAHAHAH!!
Can I get a HOOYPE?

everyone else in hololive that matters is still streaming what the fuck are fuwamoco doing?

>>93226950
Nobody in Hololive matters except Fuwamoco

>>93226950
Practicing for the Royal Rumble

>>93226952
1 view?

>>93226938
Mocochan is dying and losing fine motor skills from the brain tumor

>>93226851
Are they allowed to mod any game? Isn't Japan just a dick about that.

>>93226699
>Mio
>Has literally nothing of the sort
You're retarded

And Fubuki's pack is not only longer, but cheaper than FWMC's as well

>>93226952
they will inspire a whole generation and become icons of vtubing

>>93226987
no...

>>93226950
The only holo live is CC

>>93227011
So you admit Fubuki does it. Thanks for proving my point.

>>93226752
what if woman trying to speedrun

>>93226952
Didn't give a fuck about the popular one giving headpats and don't give a fuck about this whore's aspirations either.

>>93227011
>instantly moved goalposts
*yawn*

>>93226996
Cover is fucking retarded in every way imaginable and couldn't suck dick without permission via fax from each nut separately.

But to answer your question, Nintendo in particular is infamously against modding.

>>93226782
Same, I don't even use twitter

FWMC is more expensive because you get two girls, silly

>Work hard
>No homoshit
>Practice dancing
>Get invited to Pekora's birthday as soon as they get 3D
It's just that easy. Take notes Justice. Masterclass in maximizing opportunities in Hololive.

>>93226941
maybe he's angry that he's broke like this anti >>93156194
>According to the 2022 Occupational Wage Survey (OWS), the average monthly salary in the Philippines is Php 18,423.00 (US$ 330.08).

>>93227059
Does anyone remember that fleshtuber that ran Alien: Isolation at ESA?
I genuinely think IRyS did a better job.

>>93227109
kek.

>>93227038
>Same price that Mio and Fubuki charged.
>Same price
>Fubuki is $15 less
>Mio is $0 (does not exist)
I admit that you're mentally retarded.
>>93227073
Retard

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bau bau

>>93227093
>as soon as they get 3D
it's been almost half a year

>>93227093
>lose half your fanbase
noted

>>93227163
nice thigh squish

It's really sad seeing how desperate some gachikoi are getting without them... I guess at least they haven't left yet

>>93227093
>January 30, Polka.
>February 4, Raden.
>February 22, Okayu.
>March 2nd, Nene
>March 5th, Miko
>March 15th, Koyori.
Lots of potential birthday lives they can appear in.

>>93227093
Last year we almost went to war with the Usagi Army (or whatever they are called) because Pekora tried to steal Bau Bau.
And then they had a watchalong for Pekora's live.
Now they are gonna be up on stage with her!

>>93227145
sis can't even count... how sad

Holy based Minto is going to stream monster girl quest

>>93227074
Biboo said that's the reason why they can't do Roblox. It's a miracle that they can play MC on some non-Holo servers and even use some shaders and performance mods.

>>93227176
They're more popular than ever. Only 10% of the total fanbase of any Holo consistently show up to streams, the rest only show up when its a game they like or just watch clips. Their merch sales are Gura tier and they're getting more JP mindshare by the day. Seethe and cope.

>>93227242
I don't see Raden and Nene happening, the rest have a decent chance tho

>>93227269
Retardchama...

>93227276
Oh yeah...
How come you fucks didn't ask them about monstergirls for the Q&A? We know slimes and robot maids but that's about it.

>>93227242
They'll accept any they're invited to. They live for this and I can't wait to see more 3D performances. The real benefits from moving to Japan are really starting to show now, I hope they can consistently get to use the studio and have a 3D performance every month

Fuwawa will end the PekoMiko great war by convincing Pekora that rape is, in fact, a good thing.

>>93227304
I have a feeling that the haniwa is for Raden's bday.

>>93227319
Fubuki and Mio's VPs (https://shop.geekjack.net/products/ookami-mio-3rd-anniversary-celebration-asmr-voice-soft-and-fluffy-ear-massage) are $35 and FWMC's are $45, that's not a $15 difference

>>93227276
BAUSED

FWMC finds a magic big red button with some instructions.
If they press it they'll get 2 million JP subs and will have a sololive guaranteed, BUT every single EN Ruffian will die a slow and painful death.
They know for sure that the button works and it's real.

Would they press it?

>>93227304
They called into Nene's totsu and talked about Mococo's butt. I feel like they're gonna make it in.

>>93227359
>3D appearance every month
Christ I fucking hope not or they'll never stream on their own channel again.

>>93227242
>Recording for Polka birthday Jan 30
>Their own birthday live Feb 1-2
>Possibly Raden Feb 4
Busy puppies

>>93226686
Same. Still miss gaming streams because they're fun, but they're not the most important thing to me. I also don't have very specific demands with gaming. If next week had a Chillaslop and FNAF I would think it's an amazing schedule but most people who talk about game streams would still be complaining.

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>>93227269
You're an idiot.

>>93227406
The only question is can they press it multiple times to make EN Ruffians suffer more? Because they'd do that too in a heartbeat. Hell they'd make it a stream with a big announcement and get a lot of money from EN fans even after they announce they're going to kill them all.

>>93227451
FWMC Raden would be a crazy combo

>>93226952
Cute. Hope she finds success.

>>93227490
Polka -> FWMC -> Raden. Busy as hell.

>we're on "I never cared about streams anyway" stage

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>>93227391
You're right. It's even MORE than $15. How are you this retarded.

>>93227528
It's all the retards that are left have. There's probably a few that genuinely feel that way but for the rest it's cope because they've invested too much time and money into fwmc and are realizing they are never going to change back to how they used to be. it's either pretend to like how it is now or kill yourself and oshihen

>>93227304
Didn't Nene kind of hint at them having something together in the works? And she didn't know that much about them, so a guest part or a song cover makes sense. Something they can do together without spending too much time together.

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>>93227463
?

>>93227572
>Geek Jack
how's it living in your third world shithole?

>Ruffkeks can't do math and don't understand currency conversion
No fucking wonder they thought the dog's "ASMR" was a good deal KEK

Prices went up due to inflation
Search FUWAMOCO inflation for more info

>>93227463
>4 files vs 3 files
What is the total runtime of each? That's the best thing to judge it on, because the first file of FWMC's 4 is pretty short. There's also a bonus file in the set, but I'm sure it's the same for Fubuki.

>>93227122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzrqoaGOx2k
This one?

>>93227528
I was always at that stage. I like Holo because of the idol stuff and I like FWMC and Bae because they are the idols of EN

>>93227528
They talked about streams slowing down in January 2024, the whole cloudy feelings talked and how in the future to pursue their dreams they knew they had to spend more time doing behind the scenes things and knew some people would be upset. We knew when they moved to Japan the reason for doing it was access to the studio so they could do more idol performances in 3D which is their passion.

I care about streams but I care about them, and I care about seeing them do what they're passionate about much, much more. They're good people who deserve to achieve what they want to do and ultimately what makes me the happiest is seeing them doing that and being proud of them.

So it's less "I don't care about streams" and more if you're complaining you're a complete retard because you got told this would happen over a year ago. Idol journey bros are thriving, while people who treat vtubing as knock off anime twitch thots who just stream are suffering, which is how it should be

>>93227642
You tell me, retard. You wanna try reading the reply chain one more time, since it's your first time on 4chan? Try to find out where the geekjack link came from.

>you just HAVE to join me in melting down over a few days of no streams in exchange for great collabs and event appearances

>>93227635
Well, there you go, then. Seems to be exactly the same pricing method.

>>93227463
retard

>>93227572
SEAsister exposing their poor education once again...

>>93227722
As long as they're ok with background characters and side oshis then I'm happy for them. They'll never be big in holoJP but maybe settling for this is enough for them. I don't think it moves the needle at all on them ever having a sololive but that probably wasn't ever happening anyways so maybe they can leech their way into a guest appearance in someone else's

>>93227817
Can't even reply with we'll see because you're too much of a coward to publicly apologize when it happens.

>>93227528
Why are you watching Hololive again?

>>93227817
And if it happens, are you going to do a video of yourself doing naked dogeza?

>>93227817
no one gets a sololive because they beat OOT

>>93227635
>Still not the same price
Thank you for further proving you can't do math.
>>93227693
Literally listed on the site.
>Welcome to the White Fox's Hidden Sanctuary Total Running Time: Approx. 6mins
>The Fox's Soothing Ear Massage Total Running Time: Approx. 19mins
>Ear Cleaning and Sharing a Bed, Just for You Total Running Time: Approx. 18mins
Total: 43 mins

>Relaxing Morning with FUWAMOCO: Japanese Approx. 3 minutes/ English Approx. 3 minutes
>Sleepy Time with Fuwawa: Japanese Approx. 8 minutes/ English Approx. 7 minutes
>Cozy Up with Mococo's Lap Pillow: Japanese Approx. 8 minutes/ English Approx. 8 minutes
>Sweet Ear Cleaning from your Twins: Japanese Approx. 20 minutes/ English Approx. 20 minutes
Total: 39 mins

Both have after talks, duration is both listed, so no point in including them. If you double the duration of FWMC's because it has EN and JP, you have to double the price.
Fubuki's is cheaper in every way, while also being factually longer in total duration.

>>93227242
They're obviously not in everything, but it's a very FUWAMOCO schedule.

>>93227528
The absolute state

>>93227463
>3 = 4
Look at Mr. Genius over here

>>93227856
Raised by streamers, that's all he knows

>>93227708
Did brrats went nuts when Bae took time off in September to focus on her 3D prep?

>>93227845
>>93227877
Why would I apologize? In your scenario they would just be keeping a promise they made that's not something I should feel bad about it's the expectation. It's on them to prove it and keep their fans happy not the other way around. And I know you'll reply lecturing that I don't get idol or oshikatsu but you can go neck yourself that's just corporate manipulation to get men to spend even more money funding a greedy corporation.

>>93227903
They'll almost certainly be in Koyos I think

>>93227937
No, but she was much older in Holo, the newfag parasites who hop from gen to gen already left at that point.

>>93227955
Faggot.

>>93227778
>Anon thinks $22.10 < $15.00
Which back water shithole country tried to teach you math.

>>93227898
>moving goalposts to run time
>Fubuki's track 1 is more expensive than her track 2! How can she be so greedy???
cmon sis, this is just pathetic

>>93227955
They never promised a sololive. Coward.

this place sucks. /baubau/ literally hates fwmc

>>93227982
Okay. I am looking forward to her birthday in February. Hopefully FWMC appear as guests though I doubt it.

Ruffians really just can’t stop losing.

>>93228040
I don't hate FWMC more than FWMC hate the Ruffians.

>>93227919
>I don't understand duration!
The smartest anon in this thread

>>93227937
Brats? Not really. Shitposters? Sure.
She was a massive target before they switched to FUWAMOCO. There's a reason we've got a Baeschizo here.

>>93227937
No. I mean we missed her, obviously, but in general brats are happy or at least understanding when she prioritizes idol stuff, since its her dream. If anything people were worried that she wasn't able to take the vacation she was planning during that time

>>93227898
>gets proved wrong 4 times
>deflects 4 times
spineless kek

>>93226686
I don't. I liked FWMC because of all the comfy streams they did. I guess I should oshihen, right? Because if you don't 100% agree with everything they do you don't deserve to be a Ruffian.

>>93228040
Well said, sis.
Keep up the good work.

>>93228020
Duration is literally the only factor that matters retard. It's the only factor that has ever mattered.

>>93228105
I kinda wish ruffians can be as understanding but oh well... FWMC is going experience alot of growing pains.

>>93228149
that's weird, it only seemed to matter after you were wrong 3 times

>>93228106
>gets proven wrong 5 times
>deflects 5 times
Jesus christ anon this is sad.

I think the worst thing about this meltdown over the lack of streams is that the people complaining don't even care about the content itself they just want to count how many times they get read in chat. Focusing more on 3D will hopefully weed some of those people out

>>93228128
I mean yeah, probably. You should probably pick an oshi whose goals align with your entertainment preferences instead of making yourself miserable

>>93228216
Mask off.

>>93228149
If duration mattered then why do Fubuki's tracks have inconsistent pricing per duration? Absolute glue-eater logic.

>>93228149
>2 minute call-ins to JP streams have equal weight with a 6 hour zatsu in English
But now duration matters?

>>93228128
No one agrees with everything, I thought EN Reco sucked and was a waste of time, will gladly skip 2, but I won't be shitting my pants in this thread daily over it. I'll just do something else during that week.

let's be honest how many times did you rewatch their 3D appearances

>>93228212
>If you want to spend more time with your oshi that means you're a readschizo
Fucking kill yourself.

>>93228194
>Fubuki's and "Mio's" packs are the same price as FWMC's
>Proven false
>Anon doesn't understand numbers so keeps shitting his pants in confusion
Embarrassing

>>93228269
Several

>>93228212
That's the uncomfortable truth that these schizos won't admit. They miss "comfy streams" because they lived for getting read in chat, having their names read for superchats, and having clips and content to post to get even more likes and retweets. It all comes down to these people wanting more and more attention and FUWAMOCO to themselves. A 3D live doesn't give them a chance to get read or noticed so it's inherently less worthwhile to these people. Look at the names that are lamenting the "loss" of streams the most and you'll see it's faggots like nae and the Mexican who track attention like it's a life source

>>93228128
>I liked FWMC because of all the comfy streams they did.
You liked attention whoring. Be honest now

>>93226603
It’s funny watching ruffians have a meltdown in real time over their oshis abandoning them in their pursuit of JP cocks. You all get what you deserve.

>>93228290
you literally posted a screenshot and said 3 is equivalent to 4 retard

>>93228269
Their 3D live? multiple times. But their random guest appearances? never and I will always say they're just bonus nice to have content so it's sad they're making it the focus of their careers now

>>93228238
what? no one is forcing you to watch them dude, if you don't like their content anymore you can just stop watching it instead of whining all day

>>93228269
It was the best sibling vs sibling wrestling match of the entire year

>>93228269
The ass shaking? A lot.

>>93228336
Monsters Inc wants them to stream more for that exact reason as well. It all boils down to wanting attention.

Global is laughing at us again…

>>93228287
I have never seen a single person who says they care more about the "comfy" streams than their idol dreams who hasn't turned out to be someone who actually cares more about the validation they receive from them. I'm cynical, especially since you're such a massive cunt that you spend so much time complaining here your supposed "oshis" aren't doing what you want I think it's liklier you're either an outright anti or just a mentally ill schizo who is having a breakdown over not getting his dose of attention.

>>93228128
You can oshihen every year in that case because no girl in Holo is going to stream as much in their second year as in the first. It's a shame they spoiled us that much, and now every fag is expecting the moon every week. Ungrateful fucks.
Unironically watch some indie at this point. A lot of those girls are going to stream all day long and they sure are not "wasting" their time doing 3D with Pekora ever.

>>93228470
if you don't have comfy 3view on a side you're doing it wrong

>>93228464
That's doomer. Monster Inc actually appreciate effort going into music and performance. He helped one of the homos with their cover.

I just watch other members of Advent when FWMC aren't streaming.
It's the Golden Gen

>>93228575
Nope. Monsters Inc. was one of the ones along with Aeon who were pestering them in chat about their busy schedules.

Just watch more holos then you always have something going on

>>93228585
>Golden Gen when it has Nerissa in it
KEKAROO

>>93228585
only FWMC and Biboo are good

>>93228612
Doomer was a whole different level. He was typing in caps yelling at them to give up on their idol dreams. Monster Inc. just ask if they enjoy being busy, they responded yes and that's it.

>>93228644
But then who would bite the bait from the antis?

>>93228212
>>93228336
>>93228339
Kill yourselves. I am a literal nobody and I never even chat, but I miss their streams. If you seriously believe that wanting streams = being an attention whore, then I hope you get terminal cancer and die a slow and painful death. Why do you hate streams that much in the first place? Do you hate spending time with your "oshi"? Do you hate FWMC? Do you only see them as corporate mascots and not real people?

>>93228575
It's both of them. Almost every stream and especially in the comments he's lamenting the loss of the way it uses to be. He appreciates music but openly admits he liked them more before the move. Unfortunate situation that I think a lot of the diehard fans are struggling with recently

>>93228672
>they responded yes and that's it.
Nope. He fuled the tangent that became a fucking loop for 30 minutes. Since you're defending him as hard as you are I'm gonna assume you are him.

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>>93228466
Nobody cares globalfag

>>93228695
Anon, my oshis like doing 3D streams and appearances. This is what they live for. I understand that and am giving them the space and time to do it.

>>93228672
>Is February busy too?
>Is March busy too?
>Is April busy too?

>>93228695
They told you this is the direction they would take but you didn't listen. Either accept it or get the fuck out, self-centered dickhead.

>>93227093
funny how pekora is still streaming pretty much every day despite having the fucking 3d live and doing just as many if not more appearances over the christmas/new year period

>>93228336
You're the gayest fag on Earth. I can't watch live most of the time, but it doesn't mean that having streams to watch doesn't matter to me. You build these strawmen out of thin air so you can point at people who obviously have issues and say anyone who happens to say ome thing similar to those schizos is a schizo.

>>93228571
I did before them, don't have time anymore (despite the "lack of streams" shitposters like to harp on).
Those retards should unironically switch to some 3views, they're get everything they want: lot of streams, lot of games, constant chat interaction, potential grooming (sad but true). Hololive isn't for them.

>>93228715
based they need a dose of reality not sycophants

>>93228695
>I hope you get terminal cancer and die a slow and painful death
Why are Ruffians like this?

>>93228695
I don't hate streams I just like FUWAMOCO being happy more and they are happier doing what they are doing now than they ever were grinding out streams every day. I'm sorry that you fell in love with the temporary but it's how it is. Being a sour ass whining about hiw they used to be better isn't supporting anyone and makes them feel bad so you can suck it up or fuck off. And I mean that in a nice way for your own sanity.

>>93228695
You don't understand FUWAMOCO. Shut up and leave.

>>93228767
He might as well start asking if summer is looking any better

>>93228390
>their random guest appearances? never
No shit, considering they have a single one guest appearance so far.
You sure seem to follow them well.

>>93228695
BAUSED.

>>93228881
WAKE THE FUCK UP

>>93228886
He'll save that for his rainbow SCs during their birthdays

>>93228695
>Do you only see them as corporate mascots and not real people?
That’s exactly what they are ruffkek. Get a grip. They never loved you.

Threads already shit so I guess I’ll bring it up: I noticed some of the attention whore on twitter don’t even follow them anymore and hopped over to twitch bitches. Sad for FWMC but kind of hilarious how these faggots jumped boat once they stopped giving them as much attention. Saw some jumped to Mint so the Mint shilling here makes sense

>>93228695
>If you seriously believe that wanting streams = being an attention whore
It's pure coincidence that every single ruffian who publicly complains about the schedules is an attention whore. I'm sure you're the one pure ruffian who only cares about the content though, surely you're not a mentally ill schizo telling people to kill themselves because they won't join your whining about your "comfy time" being lessened. Having such a virulent response really makes it look like you're only concerned about the content and not an overly emotional response because you have a brain of a woman and you're angry your attention whoring time is gone

>>93228881
SLEEP TIGHT MOCO-CHAN

>>93228886
I'd actually like that over what he's doing all the time now. At least then they can say 'Oh it's looking kinda clear! Maybe we can play some of the games on the back log and tackle the revenge list!'. It's cope, but it's better than the feeling that nothing is coming.

>>93228881
You damn flat brat stop creating so many problems

>>93228881
STREAM
STREAM
FUUUCK

>>93228798
I could never watch someone where the chat isn't going by rapidly. Let me say dumb shit and go unnoticed in peace. I saw this really cute JP chuuba but there's only 10 messages a minute. She also started spamming Valorant

>>93228943
stop stalking random men on the internet and seek professional help

>>93228943
>They stop streaming the stuff people liked to watch them stream
>Must be leaving because of attention!
I will give you that if you're unironically tracking people like that, odds are they did some stupid shit to warrent you looking at them, so maybe the assesment of those people is right. I wonder, am I on that list?

>>93228943
Musk is a faggot and won't let me follow anyone. I just keep a Twitter tab open at all times for them.
I'm glad they at least tweet every single day. It shows that they actually do care.

>>93228943
Kill yourself man obsessed retard. Just fucking die.

>>93228930
Yeah you're right he will definitely do that
>>93228953
Cope is all he's gonna get for the foreseeable bleak future

>>93228786
You make it sound like FWMC didn't try juggling both before. They tried, and kept falling sick and having to deal with froggy voices. They are just not robust to handle both streaming and idol activities. For them, it is one or the other.

>>93227304
>I don't see Raden and Nene happening
>Nene
You're a retard because they hinted at them doing something together soon when they called into her totsu a few weeks ago, and with her bday so close it can absolutely happen

>>93228695
KEKADOODLEDOO. You got obliterated.

They should do an anime tier list stream

They should collab with Shiori

>>93229087
maybe don't use the most high pitched voice humanly possible for streaming

This whining is so silly.
You go a few days without solo streams and them only being in some collab or call in and you freak out.
You know nothing, that's a decent trade given just how much they're recording and doing right now.

I had to trade like THREE MONTHS of my ex oshi for just one 3D appearance.

>>93228881
SLEEP TIGHT MOCO-CHAN

>>93228354
Money. Money you fucking autist. 1 is equal to 1. They're SETS. You're the retard purposely looking at individual items.

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>>93229128
stupid rat

We
>YES WE
Should bring back Halo Nights

>>93229137
Never ever, Shiori is just too fun for them

>>93229158
>a few days
it's been months since they had a week with more days of streaming than offline work days

>>93229137
Why do they hate Shiorin so much...?

>>93229137
>ERB of Advent
no thanks

>>93229029
>>93229054
they hate you and i’m raffing
>>93229034
You guys sure do like to make a lot of assumptions. I’m just mutuals with some of them and noticed their profiles changed. Get over yourself

>>93228695
>they say they want to do idolshit in their debut stream
>take time off to do idolshit
>"NO, HOW CAN STOP STREAMING! IT'S NOT FAIR, I'M HAVING A MELTYYYyy"
retardGOD

>>93228644
I used to watch 4 holos and one not holo. Ended up dropping 3 of them and the one that remained I'm still membered to today. Funnily enough, she's the one who streamed the least by far. Suffice to say I have no issue with FWMC "not streaming."

>>93229158
>I had to eat shit before, so you should now!
Fuck you

>>93229227
No it hasn't

>>93228216
>>93228259
>>93228470
It'd be a lot easier to oshihen if they were honest about not wanting to stream or play games instead of stringing along all the people like me that miss their streams.
Like it or not, when it comes to things we really care about, we want to believe that things will get better eventually, it's human nature, it's what keeps us moving even when things are shitty. I'll admit that it's my fault, for being too optimistic and for trusting them too much, but you have to admit that they are responsible for making us feel like this. All those times they say that "things will calm down!", or "we really want to stream!" or "we really miss spending time with you!". Every time they say those things, a part of me wants to trust them and believe that things will get better and that they'll spend time with us again, and I'm sure there's a lot of Ruffians that feel that way, but recently, it just hurts. It hurts listening to those words because they keep bringing me back when I was about to leave. I wish they could be honest with us, even if it hurts, it'd be less painful in the long run, for them and for us, and you'd see less people complaining.

>>93229241
The ERB of Advent is Nerissa, though.

>>93229155
They should really stop with the fake voices especially Mococo. They sounded so much better in the NWP and never had voice issues.

>>93228695
NOOOOOOO THEY SHOULD BE DOING WHAT I WANT MEMEME I DONT CARE WHAT THEIR INTERESTED IN REEEEEEEE

>>93229293
But stringing people along is what they do best

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>>93229227
>it's been months since they had a week with more days of streaming than offline work days
Anon, why lie? You can remove the Christmas Q&A and you are still wrong.

>>93229293
Try having some personal agency.
Or try touching grass.
Or try just watching streams.
CC is doing a spellcaster run on Elden Ring right now

>>93229322
Nerissa doesn't flirt with homos

>>93229293
It's called emotional manipulation, retardbro. It's par for the course when it comes to this business. It's kind of how they got rich in the first place.

>>93229328
melty!! wuffian diaper full!!

Idolfags, what's your reaction when FWMC say that they want to stream more? Do you seethe in private because FWMC wants to stream? Or do you laugh while you call them liars because you believe that they don't give a fuck about streaming?

>>93229326
they'd rather graduate

>>93228269
I'm rewatching the new years countdown right now actually, because I was too drunk and distracted by BaeRyS the first time

>>93228997
I don't like it that much either, it gives me anxiety. But FUWAMOCO recognizes you anyway, even if you're not superchatting. It's a thing that happens when you interact with real people.

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>>93229359
Nerissa collabs with twitch whores, one of those being a man. I can’t wait for her to get the fuck out.

>>93229359
Neither does ERB lol
Her interactions are seiso, she's just autistic.

>>93229293
Being honest would mean they'd have to admit to themselves and the Ruffians that they chose idol work over the Ruffians and streaming. They should say it if it's the truth because it's what their actions are saying but this pretending and gaslighting themselves and others that things will change while they are acting against that every step of the way is frustrating. They're just delaying the meltdown when people get tired of waiting. Unless they're hoping it's a slow gradual bleed instead of a flood of departures like would happen if they admitted they have chosen 3D and idol appearances over streams

>>93229408
>what's your reaction when FWMC say that they want to stream more?
They can say what they want. We all know it's a lie.

>>93229435
Twitchwhore schizo my beloved

>>93228244
>Why does Fubuki give a better $/min value than FWMC?
Gee, I don't know anon, maybe because the dogs only care about money? Great question though.
Absolute glue-eater logic.

>>93229470
I accept your concession, cuckbird. Now go listen and fap to your AI vocaroos.

>>93229293
It's just anime avatars, bro. Seek help.

>>93229467
Idolfags are the worst FWMC antis.

>>93229242
>gossiping about random fans isn't an obsession
I'm serious, professional help now

This place just makes me sad now

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>I know, I'll oshi girls who from day 1 made it clear how much they love Japan and the idol life
>And then over a year later I'll get really angry at them for doing exactly what was to be expected, which is also putting a lot of their energy and time into said idol life and things JP

Nothing you say can ever convince me that you didn't do this to yourself.

>>93229408
They streamed 130 hours in September. I was there and enjoy every single moment. I just support my oshis in their endeavors.

>>93229554
It’s the truth, ruffkek. The sooner you accept that the more your mental health will be better off.

>>93229293
>It'd be a lot easier to oshihen if they were honest about not wanting to stream or play games
The thing is they do want to stream and play games. They just don't have the time, you can argue they don't prioritize it but it's not true that they don't want to do it. For better or worse they're the most traditional minded idols in HoloEN, that means they focus on opportunities, 3D performances, promotions, participating in big projects that get them a lot of exposure. I do think that the first 6 months gave a lot of people the wrong impression of them as streaming monsters but they're really not. You follow them because you love the "Road to Budokan" style idol journey that the Hoshiyomi, and lesser extent the Deadbeats have been on. If seeing them dance in 3D isn't just as important to you as game streams, if you begrudge them spending time on it because you want streams more I just think it's an issue where you don't have the same priorities as them. Which is ok, you can watch another Holo who does stream more often, or do something else.

>>93229258
>>93229328
Uh oh! Copeffian melty!! Don't worry, I'm sure FWMC "REALLY miss spending time with you"

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>>93229554
>Idolfags
But enough about FUWAMOCO, kek. Maybe you just didn't know your own oshis?

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>>93229562
That's what antis want. Luckily, we can still enjoy FUWAMOCO without visiting a Taiwanese bicycle repair forum every day.

>>93229615
>"Road to Budokan" style idol journey
Bro, don't bring up my hopes. It is never going to happen with them...

>>93229584
I never watched their debut

>>93229087
seems like a skill issue then, suisei changed her voice because it was straining her too much

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>>93229562
It's probably better to leave for a while if that's happening. I know that it's what shitposters want, but it's better to conserve your own mental health and focus on what makes you happy

>>93229562
The trick is to just not care about the antis spewing shit everywhere. The moment FWMC are online again you just post about them again and continue like always. That makes the antis more mad than anything else.

>>93229293
That's just because you project your own preferences on them. As someone who vastly prefers idolshit over gaming but still enjoys gaming, I can perfectly relate. They want to play more games, and I want to watch that too, but there's no time, because they're busy with other stuff. And I also think the stuff they're busy with is worth more than any gaming stream. They're not lying, it's just not the biggest priority. I understand them perfectly and never feel like they're stringing me along. They said this year they were focusing on releasing more music, that's a hard statement, not a feeling, so I'm expecting more music unless they openly talk about how plans changed.
Wanting to do something is not a promise. It's a feeling.

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Shio-chan a cute

>>93229615
>The thing is they do want to stream and play games. They just don't have the time,
And I want to live in Japan and bang JP girls in FUWAMOCO cosplay all the time. Words are nothing without action. They can promise the world and lie to themselves that it's possible but the reality is they aren't Mori. They aren't Koyori. Their bodies can barely stay together under the current grind and it's only going to get busier as they appear in more 3Ds and concerts. There's no world where they can do everything and they've proven time and time again that EN streams are easy for them to drop.

>>93229408
>Idolfags, what's your reaction when FWMC say that they want to stream more?
I accept it's the truth while knowing that they need to focus on multiple things and that streaming at times might need to take a back seat to other more important work they do. When they do stream I enjoy it and treasure the moment, when they're working on things behind the scenes I support them and give them encouragement and get excited to see it. Shrimple.

>>93229562
Then stop living /here/, retard.

>>93229729
I wanna breed Shiori

>>93229293
They literally said they wouldn't stream as much after the initial 100 days gauntlet. Everything else is part of your delusions.
When they say "I hope we get more time to play games", it's just something that might happen. But in your menhera mind it means "they promised me they'd play more games, THEY LIED TO ME".
The issue isn't with FUWAMOCO, the issue is with you, schizo fuck.
The whole conversation is especially hilarious considering they are in the upper end in Hololive if you look at streaming hours. I can't even imagine if any of you fucks were following a genuinely lazy girl.

>>93229584
>We REALLY want to stream!!
>We REALLY want to play those games!!
>We REALLY want to spend time with you!!

>>93229729
I like shiori's hopes for them is to sleep more. lol.

>>93229798
Well they do, just not as much as you demand them to.
Now what?

SHIORI I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS
I hope you can find another game to play with FUWAMOCO since SS2 got its multiplayer removed. You can also do a visual novel zatsu/rating stream.

>>93229745
We already know that singing and dancing are their top priorities, we've known since debut where they had them as their "big likes", and they made it crystal clear in the download folder cleaning talk. They want to spend time with the Ruffians but to achieve what they want to do at times they'll need to spend more time doing behind the scenes work. That happens to every Holo with big ambitions. There is nothing contradictory about knowing they do want to spend time with the Ruffians but at the same time it sometimes needs to be less than what they want because of other work they have.

it's streaming that makes people care about the idol stuff, they're not in an actual music industry and it won't work without doing both

>>93229798
They did though. They streamed ALOT during September and clearly they can't handle it.

>>93229794
>they are in the upper end in Hololive if you look at streaming hours
I can't wait for the numbers this year be cause this flimsy defense is going to completely crumble. I'd be shocked if they were even in the top 50% in 2025.

>>93229408
Neither, because idols streaming is not something Hololive invented. I know what they mean and share the sentiment. While also thinking other things should take priority.
I don't know how they can make it any more clear than
>We're as busy as we want to be, nobody is forcing us
If they wanted to do streams over all else they could. They wish they could stream more because they treasure our time together, but they're not willing to sacrifice any of the things they're currently working on for it. That's extremely obvious.

>>93229562
I'm used to the shitposting. If it's too much then you can just come here during streams. In a sense the threads are better now because sisters and antis stick out like a sore thumb. The bait is so stale and doesn't have tons of retards biting.

>>93229794
I'm encouraged when I think of the visiting Hoshiyomi who said he wanted to oshi FWMC because Suisei had reached the end of her journey and he wanted to join FWMC on theirs. Things might work out ok if that's a trend.

>>93229890
I watch every Holo 3d live, even for holos that I don't watch a single stream of. I think that is pretty common

>>93229882
They are not singing or dancing, where are their original songs and covers? Or at the very least dancing yt shorts?

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>>93229890
>it's streaming that makes people care about the idol stuff
What streams?

>>93229930
Being in the top 50% in EN for streaming hours is not especially hard when you have Gura, Mumei and Kronii in the branch. That's 3 gimmes plus ERB

>>93229966
Stop asking. You'll get an orisong for their b-days at best, for their second anni at worst.

>>93229890
The bigger issue with them abandoning streaming is that they have nowhere near the talents or musical cred/ability to be successful as idols on their own. They absolutely need streams to have any fans at all to support their music or they're DOA on those dreams.They're going to have a rude awakening when they realize this

>>93229947
That sounds nice. I met a Hoshiyomi at BD and he was doing the BAUDOL calls as best as he could since there were callsheets being passed around.

>>93229890
Suisei and Marine are living proof that you're talking out your ass. There is nothing stopping FWMC from becoming the same but time (which they have plenty of) and talent (which they severely lack).

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Idolfags unironically depress me and demoralize me more than actual antis. They make me feel like I'm the only one that actually cared about streams or spending time with them and making memories together.

>>93229967
Suisei is releasing music and having 3D lives all the time, what is FWMC doing? Are ruffians really this fucking delusional? Insane

>>93229999
Sure, EN are lazy whores but they're also competing with JP by their own choices. Not to mention ID which has some streaming monsters too.

>>93229890
Guess it works so far then cause I am interested in all their idol and event stuff.
It's not like they don't stream at all, you're way overreacting.

>>93229462
It's because it will change. It'll change to constant streaming once they either get their Sololive or realize they're locked out of it. They just want you to stay on the hook until then so they can keep making enough money to try and make content.

>>93229562
Opposite for me. This place doesn’t make me sad, it makes me unbelievably angry and even more racist. I want to personally brutally but slowly kill every single phoneposting brown anti in this thread.

>>93229882
>There is nothing contradictory about knowing they do want to spend time with the Ruffians but at the same time it sometimes needs to be less than what they want because of other work they have.
It's really bizarre so many people seem to think it's a contradiction, I wonder if it's mostly underage posters. It shouldn't be hard to relate to wanting to do something but having other stuff you have to do that keeps you from it.

>>93229966
2025 will be the year that tests them. If they haven't released two more original songs by the end of the year I'll admit the solo live dream is too far away, if they're serious about it getting new songs is the #1 priority this year. They need 2 more, ideally 3 to have a chance at the 8+ needed for a whole hour and a half live show

>>93230041
You're the one actively holding them back from their dreams. You're the real anti.

>back to holo vs holo
>posts clearly made by "people" that don't watch either
it's all so tiresome...

>>93230091
Holy BAUSED

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>>93230041
Why are you pretending as though FWMC aren't idolfags too?

>>93230041
I don't give a flying fuck about idolcrap and you don't see me throwing a shit fit because I watch other girls.

do they stream in english yet?

>>93230115
Nerissa already has an EP they're way too slow

>>93230060
Go back to the beginning of her journey. At best, she did 2-3 streams a week without all the glamour.

>>93229966
>they are not singing or dancing
They have literally been recording stuff for 3D lives you'll see coming out now and in the coming months

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>>93230041
Like anything else, it needs to be balanced. Cheering them on at BD meant so much because of their streams. It's not like we started out cheering them on a local venue. I think most people would agree that streams are important.

>>93230060
That's HIS point, you fucking retard.

>>93230190
This angle got skullfucked in the blistering cold of this morning

>>93230041
You should open your ears and listen to what they’re saying, selfish-kun

>>93230107
The thing is the stuff they "have to do" is mostly work that they chose to do. They said themselves cover gives them freedom to do what they want. They just chose homework over streams. Which is their choice and right but they don't get to cry about it. Own the decision.

>>93230021
Most idols fucking suck at music, that's why they're not musicians. Jesus Christ where do these tourists come from?
Idol isn't Musician but Japan, it's a whole different concept.

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>>93229882
I appreciate your effort but you and I both know it'll fall on deaf ears here because it's not like the antis ever wanted to have an earnest discussion or be open to arguments to begin with.

>>93230241
did they actually stream in english for once?

>>93230194
Yes, back when there were no connections. EN have it easy mode compared to her and the earlier gens because they paved the way and helped make all those connections. Yet FWMC can't even keep up with people like Kiara, Mori, Irys, or Nerissa in the music department.

>>93230031
they're more likely to be somewhere on Kanata's level

>>93230041
You shrimply never understood FUWAMOCO at all.

>>93230260
>Which is their choice and right but they don't get to cry about it
You might be autistic

>>93230295
I really thought they’d have more orisongs released by now or atleast some covers. Where’s all the money going to?

>>93230285
They have streamed in English for 8 out of 10 streams since Christmas and including tonight's Advent collab (with a BIG ANNOUNCEMENT)

>>93230041
I care about those things too I just don't care about them to the exclusion of their idol dreams. It's ok to be sad you don't get to spend as much time with them as you used to, it's not ok to be angry and bitter that they're spending time chasing their dreams more than spending it with you. I don't understand why you are all so autistic you need things spelled out to you like you're 5 years old.

>>93230260
They own the decision through their actions, the crying isn't that someone isn't letting them, it's that they still miss the thing they're doing less of. But it's necessary to chase their dreams. This is all from their own words.

>>93230031
Are you seriously comparing FWMC to Marine and Suisei?? You are braindead.

>>93230365
VN

>>93230367
it's tomorrow

>>93230271
I'm not comparing them to musicians I'm saying they're fucking terrible as idols. They barely can handle the PR part, they are bad at dancing, average at singing, have no original songs (quality isn't important). They barely cultivate their audience and feel increasingly isolated. It feels like they are random AI generated mascots that say they like idol stuff but all they can do is pound their chests about how they're big idolfags and fans themselves and they understand how it feels but barely anything they've done screams these are idols to me. BAUdol was spectacular and a great sign that they can do it but outside of that what have they shown at all?

>>93230271
Their audience in mostly EN. That means unless they really do go hard on trying to edge out EN fans and pick up JP fans who will actually give them money instead of just showing up sometimes, they will be beholden to streaming in general.

>>93230328
>shrimply
It's always the chumbies.
How's it like getting
>NO STREAMS
>NO TWEETS
>NO LIKES
For six months and all you get in return is the same corporate mandated lives as everyone else?

I don't care about idol crap.

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>>93230367
I thought the Advent collab was tonight too. Oh well, time for a nap.

>>93230412
Isn’t the 1 mil wish going to that?

>>93230397
I am not, but you sure are for being hopelessly unable to read. Retard.

>>93230041
You're a retard if you let others depress you. I do think them not streaming at all makes me less motivated to get excited for their idol stuff with being away from them, though.

>>93230397
I think you missed
>Talent (which they severely lack)

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>>93230444
Don't worry, FWMC will be right there with Gura soon.
>NO LIKES
Ah, a likeschizo attention whore. No wonder you miss streams.

>>93229745
It's funny how people making light of their work always bring up a couple of girls like Mori and Koyori, or sometimes Pekora/Miko, basically proving that they're doing a better job than 90% of the rest.
Also ignoring things like Mori having massive health issues, and even Koyori eventually getting sick recently.

>>93230425
Mea culpa.
Tonight is the Shiori Hitman stream

>>93230430
obviously they're working on music you think that just happens overnight?

>>93230397
And you can't read.

>>93230041
I'd like more streams too but I know they want to do all the singing, dancing, and performing they've always wanted to do.
You need to realize that's their #1 priority and sometimes there are going to be stretches where there are less streams.
They've been doing recordings for not only Pekora's birthday this weekend, but I bet they've been working on recording for their birthdays at the start of next month, and wouldn't be surprised if they are having 3D lives.
So not only tons of dance, singing, and recording for performances, but I bet there will also be more voicepacks/others for birthday merch.

>>93230393
>the crying isn't that someone isn't letting them
the way they word it every time clearly is meant to elicit pity and make it seem like it's an outside force causing it when it's all their own decisions. Just be like Bae and say they're working hard on it right now and will return to streams when they can. Instead we get lies about how next month it'll be better oh next week it'll be better next week it'll be better over and fucking over. Stop giving time points where it will >get better if you know you are not making any steps to ensure that date is accurate.

>>93230475
You can see the future?
What's this week's lottery numbers?

>>93227285
their numbers and SCs are lower than ever

>>93230463
lol no way cover is paying for the whole thing

>>93230545
Bot response.

>>93230503
Yeah, totally don't have a bunch of examples of Holos who are music focused who don't pump out orisongs. Nope, none of those exist.

>>93230463
Cover ain't paying for everything.

>>93230479
because those are the people they're competing against to get a sololive. No one compares them to lazy whores like Kronii or Mumei because they're not trying for sololives

>>93230570
huh what you mean?

>>93230430
>BAUdol was spectacular
Was it? None of the girls who get sololives make music like this, at least not as their selling points. They all pivot to actual genres instead of “idol”. I’m hoping their upcoming music projects are more serious

>>93230577
they're going for quality and that takes time

>>93230430
>I'm not comparing them to musicians I'm saying they're fucking terrible as idols
Compared to the rest of EN they're godlike. The way they've approached the job since joining has been almost flawless. They're not as innately talented as some of the other top tier JPs but they're very good at knowing what the core appeal of Hololive is and playing to their strengths. They take the job seriously, they don't flake out and they have very clear and defined goals that means they're always working toward something and not floating around with no direction or purpose (looking at you Ina and Mumei)

>>93230397
Didn't Marine have less original music than they did at the end of her first year?
In large part because Cover is so much bigger and more prepared to support that side now, I'm not giving FWMC credit for it, but that doesn't change the fact that comparing current Marine to year 2 FWMC is retarded.

>>93230503
Based on ERB and Nerissa's output if they wanted to they could have. It's another situation where they're trying to do everything all at once and failing it all miserably.

>>93227898
>moving goalposts
KEK. Maybe the better question to ask is why Fubuki spends more times on VPs but has more time to stream than FWMC

So when are we gonna see the fruits of their all of their strenuous labor? Original songs? Covers? Or is it just appearing in 3D lives?

>>93230649
>quality

>>93230649
Yep, I sure can't show you multiple talents you'd probably say are trash who get 1m on their orisongs pretty quickly after they release them.
Quit it with the retarded cope.

>>93230568
>>93230591
Fair. You guys know how Okayu or Aqua paid for theirs? They’ve been at the top of the supa charts since monetization so I’m sure they have the money for it either way

>>93228786
It's because Pekora is 1 person and they're 2 people. They have twice the work to juggle while Pekora has a lot of free time. Blame Cover, not them.

>>93230436
Idols DO stream. THEY streamed as IRL idols too. The one video people keep posting to compare voices is one such stream.

>>93230202
>It'll come pouring in any day now!
they've been busy busy bau bau since more than half a year now and have no more to show for it than any of the other members. Not more songs, not more 3D appearances.
Turns out they're just really shit at time management. Like spending dozens of hours practicing for a mildly entertaining 8 minute wrestling segment.