>what's that? Neuro-Sama is doing better than me?!>w-well you know, numbers aren't everything r-right??>I don't pay attention to those rankings and stats anyway!KWAB
>>93402216>kwabYou must be 18 years or older to post here you underaged faggot.
>>93402216well, at least now i know that mousey is a sore loser when it's against her in her own turf
she was in a corpo with Silver "You'll Never Matter as Much as Someone with Bigger Numbers" Valeshe's speaking from experience
>>93402216https://vocaroo.com/19aEOLEZGflwthis audio was created like 2 years ago. What now?
Same thing with revenue post. Numbers are objective fact and objectively true. No, not the way you low iq troglodytes use objectively, like " objectively bad" which is a complete and utter miss use of the word steming from your lack of intelligence. Numbers are a literal objective measurement of something being more popular and better. You can do the retard cope and say>oH DoES dAt mEaN -most viewed vtuber- Is Da BeSt EVER ??? Yes, it made the most money it is objectively the best. And yes, that means shit like Hololive and Niji also are objectively better than whatever you consider the best, because they made more money. If what you like was good or the greatest it would have made more. There is no non biased argument to be made vtubers are a product so the only value or merit to base them on is infact their main goal profit therefore numbers and revenue charts are once again objectively correct measurements to use unless they've been altered. There is no argument against this, God himself could not construct and argument against this logic .
True up to a point. Trying to predict the whims of the capricious algorithm god isn't easy to say the least, plenty of kino gets next to no views and then some slop or short explodes for no real reason.
>>93402764This is your brain on numbers. It's worse than fentenyl. Mouse is correct.
>>93402764
>>93402865ironmouse streams in Twitch.
>>93402655you will never guess whose fans made this thread
>>93402975Twitch has algorithms too, or you think the recommended channels use magic to guess what you like?
>>93402216She was reacting to a clip of Ludwig talking about how as a streamer you often have graphs and numbers and such shoved in your face saying GOOD and BAD and it can be hard to ignore it, but you ultimately have to try to just have fun. She said "man I want to just be able to take care of my family"This is not a new sentiment either, as far back as 2021 she's talked about streaming what she wants to as few people as she wants because she streams for herself and hopes you want to come along for the ride if you enjoy it, and the clip was used in the mousewave album. She's also fairly well known for finding anyway she can to not look at her viewer count because she likes to pretend she's just talking to a few people like in the early days.
>>93403048Silvervale has fans?
>>93402216Damm the ironmouse schizo is back. Be prepared for 5 bait threads per day and endless self reply thread bumping.
>>93402216I imagine she's not coping well with finally having to stare at the fact that her popularity is fake dead in the eye. Botted likes, award show run by her boyfriend, it's all a huge lie and here comes Neuro to kick her off the peak.Couldn't happen to a more deserving individual.
>>93402762Now comes the samefagging and insane projections by mentally ill /#/ fags who think Ennacuck is a mousefag.
>>93402550She really does think shes like the queen of vtubers lol
>>93403117She sure does love numbermaxxing for someome that "doesn't care"
>>93403455Yeah, this is strange to me, for someone who doesn't want a big audience, why does she do subathons?
>>93403455>>93403504There are people who have done everything mouse has done and are 2 and 3 views. Including subathons. None of this is some kind of instant number success.
>>93403504And all her affiliations with flesh streamers, hell she goes out of her way to make those connections, am I supposed to believe anyone would want to be friends with assholes like Hasan for anything but his clout?
>>93403504Subbing on twitch is like membering is on youtube. She gets money from them. Do subathon->create hype around subbing her->make more money
>>93403124like two but they all hate ironmouse because silvervale also hates mouse. when she left she insulted mouse privately in her discord and publicly on stream. and all of her fans follow her and also hate mouse. most of the anti mouse posts and threads are made by silver's fans
>>93402762/thread
>>93403699>she insulted mouse privately in her discordAre there screenshots of that?
>>93403699>insulted mouse privately in her discordWhat did she say?
>>93403750>>93403735no spoonfeeding :)
>>93402216Clip source?
Enjoying my numbers over at Hololive DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>93403788If only we knew the title of the video and youtube had a search fuction.
>>93403699>most of the anti mouse posts and threads are made by silver's fansNo they're not, they're made by /#/monkeys.
>>93403504>>93403669her subathons are charity affairs to give money to a foundation for her specific immune system issue
>>93403829Post it.
>>93403601Yes, but after each subathon she made, she got exponentially bigger each time, it shouldn't be a surprise to her.
it has to sting being a woman with permanent ligma or whatever the fuck she has and then some shitposter makes a glorified chatbot and beats your numbers and gets famous with it
The guy who spams /#/ should take IM's advice and stop using her for ragebaitingWait nvm, he's probably an AIJeet nowIn any case, I support him in angering corporatefags and numberfags so as retards like >>93402764 manage to be worse than any Holoanti
>>93403832Well in this case it was a swarmfag.
>>93403861Dyrbi
>>93403504Didn't you hear her, chud? She doesn't care. Now watch her fucking stream already she needs to beat that AI bitch!!!
>>93403980Same thing.
>>93402216She was reacting to the clip of a streamer bigger than her who has the same opinion as her.
>>93403980Is this your first falseflag?
>>93404033Considering the charity in question has recognized her for her contributions in their yearly tax reports, done an episode of their podcast with her, and invited her to speak at a conference, yeah I do
>>93403968>The guy who spams /#/ should take IM's adviceHe won't because he's not a mousefag, you monkeys over at /#/ know this for a long time yet you still fall for him.
>>93403980Buddy this thread is as falseflag as falseflag threads get. It's #, as are 90% of Mouse bait threads made daily.
>>93403699Well if even her former friends turn on her, imagine how she really must be behind the person she pretends to be
>>93403928A new connor "stop bullying the AIDS victim" video will be deployed to save her numbers
>>93402216>ironmouse giving health advice
>>93404665Her advice: Don't get fucked by like every guy in college
>>93404489I wonder what happened for Silvervale to shit talk her like that.They were actually friends since the early days of VShojo, probably even earlier. Was it just a woman moment?
>>93403787So, no you don't have proof. Got it.
>>93404788those shittalk messages are all real btw >>93403787
Funny I never heard her bitch about numbers before this...
>>93406032She's afraid
>>93403787The only discord leak I could find was this. Nothing about Ironmouse here.
>>93406032>>93402762
>>93403504she even talked about this I think during the same react, subathon is the only time she doesn't feel alone. she likes being able to see what her community can do and breaking her own record but ending subathon gave her far more of an emotional reaction than reaching most subs ever
>>93407691man you mousekeks really do buy all that sappy shit kek
>>93407738her narrative has never changed on this topic, and she was on a different stream a few minutes after ending hers and had a full hyperventilating panic attack because it was over so yeah I'm inclined to believe it
>>93407902she's a telenovela actress kek, bet you also have nothing to say on her never talking about a certain thing she talked about before that now she never mentions and all her fans act like they dont know
>>93407956what does that have to do with anything? get big, stop talking about something you spoke about before because that thing involves another person who didn't consent to being known to a huge audience and is a privacy and safety risk. not talking about it is ethically the right thing to do
>>93403885>she got exponentially bigger each timeYou can see all three subathons on this chartI don't see "exponential" growth here. In fact she's mostly been at the same level.
>>93408510Grim
can we get twitch shit banned on /vt/
>>93408510its over isnt it?
>>93408510yep, her subs and ccv have been stable for like three years. which is good, she has an audience she likes and growing just gives her more haters
>>93402216Nothing has changed, she still has days where she's just hanging out in other people's streams without going live, she didn't stream her POV in the latest vshojo collab either.
>>93408510meanwhile neuro doubled her numbers from her last subathon, she'll be at 20k constantly for the next subathon at this rate, while Mouse is stuck leeching Connuh
>>93408665Swarm not beating the numbermonkey allegations
>>93408610It's always fun to see holocucks malding at Neuro mogging their boring whores.
>>93408665Good for Vedal but you don't have to worry about Mouse's numbers.
>>93408821>its only okay when WE do itclassic mousekeks
>>93408852But how else are we to measure our worth when we lost 4/5 award nominations?
>>93405096Silver has daddy issues that make her obsess over her own success and compare herself to others.Pre-VShojo she was one of the biggest ones in the group, if not the biggest.And she quickly fell down the ranks after VShojo launched. Mouse exploded in popularity, and almost everyone else eventually eclipsed Silver.She wasn't getting the sponsors they were, she wasn't getting the merch deals they were, etc.This wasn't a problem she couldn't fix, but she didn't want to do the work everyone else had done that earned them their success. Even now she's just coasting on the same old routine.She would vent sporadically about numbers. When she left, she threw shade at Mouse for not talking to her for "seven months" (they had spent time together for Mouse's birthday three months prior, and Mouse wrote everyone in VShojo a New Year's message, including her).Basically, she's just a self-loathing menhera who projected her problems onto Mouse.
>>93402764Pippa made more superchat money this year than amenerissakroniishioribaemumeikaelaDoes that make her an objectively better streamer?
>>93408894Companies are finally starting to ditch that whole DEI shit so that means its over for Mouse's rigged wins, no need to coddle her cause muh diversity anymore
>>93408610
>>93408935ah yes it's always someone else's fault, never mouse, she can do no wrong. Truly fantastic argument Mousefag.
>>93409012NTA but just in general, superchat numbers are not that relevant for hololive or any big streamers who have lots of merch, events and additional venues that fans are monetized through.hololive had insane superchat numbers in 2020-2021 when coincidentally there was also a lot less merch and concerts.
>>93409012Huh, that's probably why i'm seeing so many "condom connect" and "phase will disappear soon" threads lately.
>>93409289>>>/pol/
>>93402294Huh? Wat u mean?
>>93402216But it's literally my job to look at analytics
>>93409344yeah 150k in a year for superchats is nothing, especially when they are the most direct way to chatters for interacting with the streamer. Neuro has sold almost 5000 for this fuckass overpriced lamp and at 65 plus shipping that is about 325k dollars for a single product that was announced like 2 weeks ago and at the same time people are also spending on raising the timer
>>93409416I doubt they're aware of that, those threads are probably being spammed because of Fauna's graduation.
>>93409444Oh please, you know thats how she won, her being a disabled latina for sure got her the VGA win, you know how those judges vote, or well, used to
>>93409343It's really not about Mouse. Silver has since distanced herself from almost every friend she had. Remember how Layna was like an adoptive sister to her? Yeah, well, about that.
>>93409289Why did Caseoh win the best streamer award even though he was the only white man among the nominees?
>>93409575>>93409639
>>93409639because like i said, DEI is dying off and they dont care about men of color unless theyre black and japanese are basically white for them too
>>93402216IM and her cuck ATMs love numbers when she's winning.When she gets her std ridden ass blown out by Kai and neuro? Infinite seethe.
>>93409289>>93409722>DEI is dying offIs it?
>>93409855Only you numbermonkeys are seething because you are too retarded to ignore the falseflagger in your thread.
>>93410080theres a mousefag in swarm threads thats always baiting anout the mouse, and i dont think he is falseflagging
>>93408839Right. Holocucks. You worship their company because it gets numbers.
>>93409722The guy who won e-sport athlete of the year is korean and there was 3 white men among the 6 nominees.
>>93402294Fr fr
>>93409873Japan are both american bootlickers but also slow as fuck in getting with the trends in the US, it will take them a while to get the memo through their oldass fax machines
>>93410080>ignores his lying whore numberfagging her subcount during her sleepathonDid the falseflagger take over the dying liars stream, too?
>>93409855>>93402762
>>93410198i never use thos streams but based
>>93410144Half of the people in that general are falseflaggers
>>93408935>She wasn't getting the sponsors they were, she wasn't getting the merch deals they wereWhy?
>>93410432Cause Mouse always needs more
>>93408839What happened to the swarm to become like this?
>>93410432The same reasons the other smaller members weren't getting the same opportunities as the bigger ones, presumably.But to her, every time that happened it was telling her "you are worth less than them"
>>93410144>thats always baiting anout the mouseyeah that's totally NOT what a falseflagger would do....
>>93410144>theres a mousefag in swarmdyrbi
>>93409639Being obese is a disease. He's basically a cripple.
>>93410642>smallerVale was literally as big as mouse was when she joined vshojo
>>93410670i would agree but the way they post its clear they actually do like mouse, and might be someone that also posts about anny a lot, they either hate vedal for taking anny away or something idk what goes on in schizos minds sometimes
Oh, no! My numbers are going down!! Quick, Connor!! let's come up with a new disease!! cough cough cough"Rush to the ER, mental health" stream will have good numbers
>>93403231See above for a typical self bump
>>93410642Red line is around where she left VShojo, she wasn't doing that bad.
>>93411143grim
>>93411143right she was a mid 4view, and yet still Mouse had all this favoritism just cause she made friends with popular flesh streamers, she was right to be mad at the bias
>>93402764Beyond wrong.Being popular is nowhere near similar to being good.If Michael Jackson came back and say some random vtuber is his favourite, the next day she gets 5 million followers. Despite quality
>>93410213Cope.
>>93411029This Connor thing is an exaggeration, right?>goes to her last stream>Connor is thereMust be a coincidence.>the stream before he's there toward the end of the streamMust be a coincidence.>the stream before he's briefly joining her stream in the middleShe's doing more collabs with him than her own colleagues. What gives?
>>93410931>when she joined vshojoYes, exactlyYou may have missed the part where I explicitly mentioned how her mental got worse the more other members surpassed her>>93411247>do the work to network and make connections>this results in more opportunities>get mad because you aren't getting the same treatment for doing nothing in particular
>>93410979You are just gullible if you think an actual mousefag spams bait in threads to get people to hate her, sorry. Vshojo unfortunately attracts a lot of schizo haters who will go to great lengths to try and deal any kind of damage to it.>>93411247What bias exactly? Nyanners, Vei and Mouse were a lot bigger at that time and it's not something Ironmouse or Vshojo had control over. It was Goodsmile that rejected her.
MouseGODS run this board swarmtrannys.
>>93411441She literally belongs to him, she's like his pet charity projecthttps://www.youtube.com/@MooClips-/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/@mouseydawg/videos
>>93402294You tell me
swarm is a funny bunch, fanbase they interact with comes out hating them
>>93411750https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZDOiZhaWPc>YAGOO mentions her once>Ironmouse: OMG What if we collabedDidn't she shit talk hololive for being hard to collab with? What a clout chaser.
>>93402764indonesian hands typed this
>>93411968Yes, and her bf Connor shittalked them all the time too
>>93412153One time, and she disapproved. Except some Dorito worshippers have been on their asses for years about it, so it makes it look like it happens all the time.
>>93411574This post alone is proof that /#/ is making these threads.
>>93402216thanks for proving her point
>>93409873grim
>>93412231It's one incredibly upset /#/monkey who does this until he gets banned for 3 days
>>93412214He didn't even shit talk holo specifically just used them as an example for his horribly explained point. And then later apologized for it. I hate that grifter but people focusing on that point always confused me when he's done much worse.
>>93412410Literally all he said was that the simple act of being in Holo guarantees success, which Holofags on this very board ALSO say, or at least imply, whenever someone leaves. "I can't believe they gave up this job that's so easy and gets them so much money."
>>93413656Don't imply that Holofags agree with Connor on something, they'd kill themselves if they internalized it
>>93411968Is it shittalk if it's true?
>>93414122I mean, that makes her a clout chaser.
>>93402216I don't like mouse but she said the same thing about numbers 2 years ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQrroNULwSc
>>93411968Technically she only said the first collab with holo was difficult. She specifically said after that was setup that it was significantly easier to setup more.
>>93414545She knows very well why is that, why does she act like she's owed collabs.
I like Moussie's singing. If she sees this please do a collab woth Roca Rourin.
>>93402216Streamers care about numbers more than anyone else. It's their fucking income. Don't lie to me, Mouse. If decisions based on vibes were prioritized more than numbers, I'd believe her.
>>93403117Being terrified of view count is not unique to Ironmouse. That's a cute excuse to have, but it's just as easy to believe her fear is the same as every other streamer: numbers make her self-conscious, even though that's what puts food on the table for her precious family.
>>93412410>And then later apologized for it.no clip, never happened
imagine if we just banned all numbers discussion. banished them all to /biz/ or something.
>>93402216>Ironmouse sets new Twitch sub record at 321,000 - IMDb. Ironmouse is now Twitch's most-subscribed-to streamer ever. During her latest subathon raising money for the Immune Deficiency Foundation, the VTuber soared past Kai Cenat's 2023 record of 306,621 subscribers to more than 321,000–and that number's still going up.Seriously how the fuck can you be such a disgusting hypocrite?
>>93418691She says this now because she made it, others are struggling to even pay their bills and have to keep a job to not become homeless.
>>93402216IM seething despite numberfagging every year during her griftathon Humiliating whore
>>93410432Never streamed, never collabed. When she did do collabs. It was with her nom and her brother. Never members of Vshojo.
>>93424081Low 3 views strea as a full time job bro, you underestimate how much money even a smaller streamer can make. Shit if they get just even one sponsor or sell a tiny bit of merch, they start actually just rolling in stupid amounts of dough.
>>93402216>Swarm and numberfags making this about something it wasn'tAs I recall this was in response to Ludwig talking about his numbers dropping after his subathon.. But Mouse has basically had this opinion since she got big. She's talked about Connor focusing too much on it. But also partially because it made her nervous to think she even had more than 1k people watching her.
>>93403117>she's talked about streaming what she wants to as few people as she wants because she streams for herself and hopes you want to come along for the ride if you enjoy itIts a fair thought because the entertainment industry can be stressful, so obviously needing to try to compete ends up being grueling to the mind over time. However, for someone like her that makes the money she does and implies wanting to continue nurturing a community, saying, "yeah, I'll do whatever and see what happens" can have consequences in that space. Sure, as people grow older they're less likely to leave people they've grown accustomed with, so entrenching yourself to the audience you have is fine, but I'm willing to bet she, like all famous entertainers, get used to a certain lifestyle. If you don't adapt, you'll be left behind and you never know when the jaded and older crew just turn off for good, so not exactly a good mindset to have for coasting if you're still relatively young. Shit, I'm in my 40s and projection of retirement age even for well to do peeps was sailing in the 80s when I was in college FIFTEEN YEARS AGO. Add her condition to it, and coming at things with a "meh, we'll see how things go" in a rapidly evolving side of the entertainment industry like this seems unwise. You should panic over it, but that seems like complacency of someone whose tasted popularity. Far more successful people have faded and burst in the past as entertainers.
>>93429712The new model is just shit
>>93429712Mousecucks don't leave their thread btw KEKAROO
>>93408510So who will take her twitch throne? I don't think twitch like ai like neuro that much.
>>93429090I think the problem is the constant chase for highs, at some point I think you deserve to not care about it and that's alright motto. Ironmouse should honestly do a bit more considering her fame, she really could take advantage of it, but I can also see that in her condition she could honestly just sit back and enjoy streaming without worrying about the numbers. At some point she will be replaced either way, at some point that person who replaced her will be replaced. And the chase for the numbers will be meaningless
>>93409012Dunno, but all holo en limited merch sold out at least 100k usd per year and that not include the unlimited merch.
>>93424081Depending on your cost of living, you can go fulltime with under 300CCVI know a streamer who's fulltime right now despite rarely cracking 100
>>93411968>Didn't she shit talk hololive for being hard to collab with>How dare she say anything about the blue dorito that can be taken in almost a negative lightShe talked about how she had to get interviewed and screened for the collab and that is significantly more difficult than it is setting up most collabs. >>93412153She also got on his case for his shit take about lying on a application to get into Hololive.. And then executed him in Minecraft for it.
>>93411029"great news mousey, china have another new disease, we can expect the shipment in another 20-30 days"
>>93411968>Didn't she shit talk hololive for being hard to collab with?That's really not a bad opinion if given, if a talent wants it, I don't really see the issue of the hoops of bureaucracy just for like what, two hours at most, of a stream?
>>93410239>>93406694>>93403382>>93403727The only one who is being a samefag is you.
>>93430855
>>93430892>what is a cell phone
>>93412153I mean it was funny when he shittalk on mouse and her friend>"why whenever i join their stream they're always sleeping? Chat what if i tell you they're not sleeping, instead they're out partying, think about it"
>>93431018who owns three phonesalso it's such a weird cope, like someone would put that much effort in over the course of hours just in case someone tries to call samefagging? jesus
/#/ really live rent free in the IMcuck minds
>>93431354Neuro mogging her every day really broke the IM numberchimps
He's talking to himself again
>>93402216>I DON'T CARE! I DON'T CARE! LOOK AT HOW MUCH I DON'T CARE
>>93431151newfag
>>93412153No matter how much the Twitch tribalists defend them, I still won't forgive them.
>>93433206True what was said was absolutely unforgivable and unimaginably horrid.
>>93412153Sauce?
>>93402216>bots her viewercount >doesn't care about numbersLol ok mouse, even your cuck ATMs know that's a lie
>>93402764>Numbers are a literal objective measurement of something being more popular and better.>and better>low iq troglodytes use objectively, like " objectively bad" which is a complete and utter miss use of the word steming from your lack of intelligence.
>>93402764> vtubers are a product so the only value or merit to base them on is infact their main goal profitNope, vtubers are entertainmentThis argument is retarded. If I bought a world-wide monopoly on all entertainment and only put out 1 product for everybody to consume, it by nature becomes the most viewed product and thus the most profitable, therefore it is objectively a good product according to you even if it's absolutely trash.
>>93430483yeah but neuro surpassed her without the staff or the clique giving her the pass, which is how it tends to go both legacy media and new media, the industry picks you first, that's how it's supposed to go
>>93436123This is the classic. It's interesting cuz van Gogh was apparently objectively shit until after his death when he became one of the greatest
>>93436242>vtubers are entertainment Exactly. Which is why IM is dogshit lmfao
>>93402294okay how you know?
>>93436320In your personal opinion
>>93436397In everyone but her bots opinion
>>93436293This, its why Mouse goes out of her way to avoid Vedal, she's baffled and a little gbit jealous someone surpassed her without her picking her successor.
>>93436452Did her bots donate all that money?
>>93436478No it has nothing to do with numbers.She just doesn't like AI, which is completely fine because she's still respectful.
>>93436505Ironic when the mousecuck cope is that neuro had botted donations when she mogged her KEKAROO
>>93436681No, that's just /#/ retards who think twitch vtubers can't be successful.
>>93436452>spamming this in all his threads after getting absolutely demolished in >>93409893KEKAROOOOOO
>>93436818Cope. Funny how it's always a falseflag when it's a mousecuck, but everything else is completely legit.You got rumbled vshocuck, neuro mogs your whore
>>93436985are you retarded? that's a blatant falseflag, the mouse schizo uses different filenames. pretend you've been here before
>>93437020No, I don't think everything else is completely legit either. /#/ schizos love to post for both sides.
>>93437154If I were you I'd hang myself
>>93437211oh, an actual newfag. smile for the camera, this is going in my cringe collection
>>93436293Neuro grew out virality, Mouse grew due to the VTuber Boom and eventually working within the industry, both had different trajectories and Vedal (not Neuro) is still a fairly young and fresh streamer, while Mouse has 7 years in the industry. They both found different audiences, and have different goals. Neuro has to keep being upgraded because she's not human, that is what makes the content for it, because if it gets stuck in the same loop, the facade will become boring to its audience like many other AI streamers. With streamer, it also ends up happening, but since it's an actual person, most people end up checking them out, seeing where are they now, as if they were talking to an old friend, some do just fell off, and that's the way it goes.There's no clique or staff shit pulling anything, both Vedal and Mouse work their way in the industry, and both are in different directions and that's ok, they don't have to be in direct competition even if the shitlord of the OP wants to put them against. People that will come in the future, will do the same. It's the same shit that always happens.
>>93436681And a lot of Mouse's donations came from anonymous gifters, weird
>>93436295Death (and especially suicide) makes something special out of the ordinary (not saying that van Gogh was a bad artist, he was not), because it is the point of no return. The cigarette butts of an artist are treated like holy relics the second he kicks the bucket, whereas the day before it was mere garbage. Humans are retarded like that. Which is indeed why mere numbers are not necessarily the only metric for quality. As for Neuro, it's a fucking fad, like AI art was a while ago. You couldn't open a web-page without being bombarded with some redditor or twitter user showing off their "le funny and epic prompt". Now everyone fucking hates it because it is so overdone. Neuro is gonna be the same because AI is inherently a one-trick-pony with a (by necessity) one-track-"mind". Why? Because it's a fucking computer program beholden to whatever code the programmer has put into it. Neuro is only gonna be funny for so long before people notice it's going around in circles and they move on to the next epic meme to get their kicks.
>>93436569Vedal is a human and Neuro constantly has her human friends on and has a whole community of indies that are supported by swarm. She doesn't like him because he is not in the clique.
>>93437383>There's no clique or staff shit pulling anythingAre you for real, the "twitch clique" thing has been know for years, as well as the staff picking favorites, it even got them in trouble with investors and advertisers due to letting Hasan get away with so much shit, even Asmon called it out and now the clique act like he doesn't exist because of it
>>93437443Yeah, we know they came from gunrun to help her beat Kais record. Was hilarious when he fucking molested her natty and she had to crawl on her knees to suck his dick for cloutNot that she minded it, we ALL know her type
>>93437510Vedal is a human who is pushing for AI which she doesn't like. She didn't consider collabing with him when he was small either so it has nothing to do with numbers. Still she's respectful towards him and his community so it's not a real problem.
>>93437673>Trusting AsmonThat nigger is a social reject who benefits from gullible idiots watching his stream and regurgitating from his takes.Either way, Mouse "befriending" some of what you are calling the clique was long way after finding her own success and working with others in the industry. And if by staff you mean the shit Gunrun has pulled, then get a fucking job nigga, and see that when you work at a place, befriend people and leave, you still know your ways to talk about different stuff in said place, that isn't playing favorites, that's just knowing how the system works and using it to your advantage.
>>93436681>but what about these people who are completely unrelated to the conversationAnswer the question instead of weaselling out of it
>>93437673>even asmon that nigger is part of the clique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cle5dl14bdIHe started crying about Neuro being in the top female category because Emiru and Mouse were getting mogged, so they removed Neuro
>>93438432He is but theres clearly factions to it, the Austin faction and the LA faction, they both come together when it comes to blocking non-clique members, like Vedal, from succeeding without them
>>93402216>>93402764picrel, shit thread desudidn't even bother trying to read the thread past that
>>93438432Neuro isn't a female streamer though?
>>93437489>As for Neuro, it's a fucking fadgiving this fad 2 more weeks before it's over
>>93438932Fad status...
>>93437489>Death (and especially suicide) makes something special out of the ordinarydont call out doki like that its rude
>>93402216>went from "YAAAAS #1 SUBBED" to "a-a-actually numbers don't matter"oof, yikes and cringe
>>93402216focusing on numbers is cancer desu.On that note I think Ironmouse sucks and no amount of numbers can make her good.
>>93440175the funny thing is that she was coping that only kai could beat her cause hes like 10 times bigger and has hollywood on his site and yet, a random russian CSGO streamer with less followers that her also beat her in december
>>93440926Classic. Mogged twice by natty talents. No wonder the mousecucks are melting down
>>93441115https://www.dexerto.com/twitch/ukrainian-twitch-streamer-suddenly-surpasses-ironmouses-subscriber-record-3007766/and he didnt even need to do a subathon, he just won or helped a team to win a CSGO tournament. Also this article is really funny, it reads like a mousefan desperately trying to justify why this random dude beat her and trying to cope about it lol
>>93441310hilarious
>>93402294KWAB
>>93441310It's the same when people use a VPN for Argentina for supas
>>93409873If the king of money grubbers McDonald's is dropping it specifically, you know others are going to follow suit.
>>93443004cope
>>93409452kwab is not a word. He's just asking OP to speak English.
>>93443027yeah it was pretty hilarious after seeing the internet engage in this whole culture war shit since corpas went all in on woke grifting since 2012 and especially after GG just go full 180 on it after the election, lmao. But at least i hope the people that bought into and unironically supported all those companies for doing that take this as an example to never, ever believe in corporations. They just go with whatever makes profit.
>>93402294Look how mad you are KWAB
>>93441310The cope in that article is way too funny. Mousecucks really hate losing huh
>>93443004Virginia Glaze if that is even your real name, shouldnt you be writing more slop for Dexerto? What are you doing coping about Mouse here this late at night?
https://streamable.com/9azo84BENCHOD IRONKEK FACKING WESTOID BLADYYYYYY
>>93444330>>93441310>literal industry plant site artificially propped up by the clique>constantly seething whenever a clique member gets mogged by randomsmousekeks are you never ashamed of how blatant ya girl is getting shilled by absolute slop shills?
>>93402216Based
>>93402216kwab indeed. she knows her time is up
>>93430636>>93430810>Oh no, they screened me, the person who is part of a company who had a member that actually shittalked hololive and never apologized for it>Oh no, they made me sign an NDAUnlike VShojo, hololive has standards, and they don't collab with every hobo they find on the streets.
>>93444407>literal 1view seethingWhat point are you trying to make?
>>93402216>stop analyzing how suspiciously slow my chat is
