Have you considered not botting your subs?
Who got demonetized? I know Alias did. Anyone else?
>>93711069Seems like it was targeted since Katta got demonetized as well despite not working for Brave(Idol) anymore.
Wow I cannot believe that blatantly botting our vtubers would lead to consequences!
>>93711069The issue with this topic is that both statements can be true at the same time. The group may not have bought sub bots and at the same time the livers may have had a large number of sub bots. It's not impossible for some chronically online loser to waste a fuckton of money to tactically nuke the livers like this by paying for sub bots.So, until youtube and the group work things out, there's a legit nothingburger to be mad at. Then again, I doubt any dramafag like yourself would take a second and think logically.
>>93711436That bitch was exploiting ARS to gain a ridiculous amount of emote slots, I'm glad that scammer got demonetized :)
>>93711352Mari, Yae, Mono, Nova, Rara, Lyko, and Terra all got hit today. Also a bunch of the idol girls as well.
>>93711436She could just be removed in name but the accounts haven't been truly separated from the company, transfers of ownership could take a while especially with so many people who didn't sign on again
>>93711790Jesus
>>93711790yeah its basically everyone who streams because they all got botted
>>93711069a vtuber corp? nah that cant be true
>>93711436?
>>93711069It's ok when Nijisanji does it
W-we're not botting anon, I swear!
>justice and advent get botted as fuck>youtube sleeps>small corpos with 150-350 ccv get botted>YABBA DABBA DO
>>93711352Nearly everyone in idol got hit as wellDaisy's channel even demonetized while she was live, it was grim
>numbertards STILL refusing to acknowledge how easy it is to get subs with shorts and accusing everyone of using bots insteadis it pure stupidity or a deep attachment to a narrative
>>93713203is that why your channel is demonetized femanon
>>93713378Yeah anon a team of totally humans reviewed all those channels and totally found proof of botting, so that's why all of them got demonetized at the same time. Youtube's team of absolutely real humans could never fuck something up after all.
>>93711069most likely credit card shenanigans.
>>93713588jesus you really are a retard who works for one of these companiesthats jewtube giving you the run around so you have to go through the song and dance of submitting an "appeal" that will take 3 weeks and multiple attempts before Jagmeet denies it
Their bottling was painfully obvious, I saw Ruby’s cover starring with already 28k views and her debut cover went from 30k to 80k in about a week. I get that they want to appear bigger but it’s just pathetic, not Ruby’s fault thou I like her so I noticed it.
>>93711790Okay. Who?
>shorts cope
Do Niji next!
>bots cope
>all V4M and idol accounts make a big stink about this on twitter>team youtube account asks them for the URLs of affected channels>nobody respondsare you even trying?
>not beating the money laundering scheme allegation do bravecorp realy?
>>93712349>Katta already has her monetization back>the current idol members don'tIsn't that a really bad sign for them? That basically confirms that this is a conscious decision by Youtube and not a rogue AI moderator
>>93711069Its okay when Holo bots their streams
>>93711559Yes, it's much more likely that someone spent thousands of dollars on bots to get a literally who vtuber corporation demonitized, than it is for said corporation to having done it themselves and not having a plan for what to do when they get caught.
>>93711790thats awful
>>93715950Everyone knows the schizo who does that.
>>93711069Rikipopet has already moved to twitch but she's had issues for ages
>>93720525Who??
>>93715389https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/91138536/#91140302yeah no
>>93711069Hear that holobros?
>>93711069V4Mirai didnt bot the girlsIts their fans who did the botting
> moves to twitch> gets 8 viewsPogo
>>93721434That's twitch VOD views they don't even count her live views into itI was in her chat earlier and she had about 200 CCV, which is not bad for someone who just switched over from youtube. She might end up finding more success on twitch than she had on yt before the demonetization
>>93720783There is a schizo that likes to fuck with the /#/ thread horse race by botting holo streams. The difference is that Hololive is a big enough MCN unlike these guys that they have contacts at youtube that they can talk to so their holomem channel's won't get fucked by the schizo who bots them.
>>93721434twitch thinks streams arent actual entertainment and have no lasting impact (which is true for twitch whores), so they dont care about VODs or VOD views
>>93712707>justice and advent get botted as fuckLying nijinigger
Phase is next
You wish holobronie
At this point just move to twitchAlias has been in this situation for months now and no sign of things changing
>>93721043looks like a lot of dead subs
>>93721043Niji is so fucking shameless
>>93723245I'm praying for it
>>93721434Really makes you think just how much of idol's viewerbase is legitimate. I mean it was always obvious that Rin and Yuko never had 1k viewers. Wish the yukomods in her discord leaked more than just the fake donations
>>93720783
>>93724982what drives a man to become like this?
Hololive are literally the only ones not bottingFucking grim
>>93725085>1% or less subscriber to viewer conversion>it's totally legit I swearyeah sure buddy
>>93725085DYRBI
from youtube's perspective, what is the negative consequence of botting anyway?
>>93725366Takes away the legitimacy of the site's success to advertisers.
>>93725081Imagine you live in SEA, you are hated by everyone in your life, you live like a parasite and leech off your mother, you look like a walking turd with how brown and ugly you are, going outside is certain death as the local cartel does executions daily, the only thing you have is the internet and the only thing you can do there is trying to make other peoples lives as miserable as yours
>>93711069Have (You) considered not posting?
>>93725366Dont know if you know this but... youtube likes moneyBots dont generate money
>>93712623>she gets subscribers on the days that she streamsyoudontsay.png
>>93711069good that gigi got out of there
>>93714118NTA but clearly (You) are a retard who does not understand satire.
>>93725157That's literally like every streamer with a large following. People who don't watch live also watch vods.
>Homo Doko?TSK!
Ella looks great if you didnt see how tall she is
>>93712623>>93725829All numbers are multiples of a hundred except days when the memberships were gifted at midnight making the last two digits 99/01 or 01/99.
>>93713588Why is she crying when she's leaving anyway?
>>93720717People who move to twitch deserve to flop
Gigi won
>>93711069If Brave actually bots YouTube subs then why is Alias still by far the most subbed member of V4? She's been demonetized for months before this because of YouTube's crackdown on ASMR and has moved most of her content to other platforms, they'd be better off boosting literally anyone else.
>>93715894>and not a rogue AI moderatorKatta just knows how to phrase an appeal to get the AI to reverse it. It's not that hard.
>>93725157I picked a couple of random people Twitch suggested to me on the front page that had around hololive level viewership and they all had a follower to viewer ratio of 100:1 or higher, that's normal for live viewersIt's not like they can fake selling out an arena, either
>>93711069>Have you considered not botting your subs?Tell that to the pebbles
>>93730476Nobody is fooled by the schizo from this board who bots hololive streams (probably you) just so he can post about itMori has even joked about the bots on stream
>>93712623>mexican pesosKys /#/spic
>>93731249If I'm not mistaken that chuuba is from Idol ES spanish, which recently got merged into just Idol.
>>93724814>fake donationsdo tell
>>93731692Playboard shows superchat in the user's currency, not the streamer's
>>93721649Unless something has changed, that hasn't been true since September 2020.>https://twitter.com/TwitchSupport/status/1305597211875700736>We've heard your feedback about VOD view counts so we’re rolling out an update to better reflect your true audience, whether that's live or offline. VOD view count will now show a sum of live views and offline VOD views.
>>93733035The donations during the donothon are fakes ones done by staff to create fake hype and get people to send the real ones, 2 of her top 3 donators are fake and do not exist
>>93735245That can't be true unless they take some time to roll vod views onto the videos because I will watch a stream and check the vod and it is less than the live CCV.
>>93724655Of course you are, sister.
>>93731692She is, sad thing she once was as big as 800ccv and every time she re incarnated she lost 1/3 of her audience. Her last fans are probably botting her out of despair to not see her go lower than who indies
>>93735503 >>93721434>>93725085Here: >>93729886>>93727109Even if she’s actually being botted, it’s probably just like what happened with Hololive, some schizo running bots for schizo reasons.
>>93735503>artificially competing with a whale to make him spend moreThats fucking vile and diabolicalIt has to be illegal
>>93736173Just pulled the channel, it looks like it takes some time for Twitch to process views. The website technically had 1.5 hours to do so.
>>93712349She had it back within 2 hours.
>>93714247>30k to 80k in about a weekNumberfaggot, that's NORMAL growth for anyone with some semblance of a following. You're probably retarded enough to think a holomem's cover hitting 100-300k day one is also botted.
>>93722768yes, because 100k people are watched new vtuber debuts in 2024.
>>93712623kys koaschizo
>>93721434>returns to her 1view days
>>93711559>It's not impossible for some chronically online loser to waste a fuckton of moneyRather than "not impossible" it's a certainty. It's called /#/.
https://x.com/MirriSaffire/status/1879870382456648138>ex-eien gets hit tooExplain this.
It's probably not about botting considering somebody bots half of HoloEN's streams and they're doing fine.
>>93714247that's just adboosting, people get served the video in youtube ads and those count towards the viewcount. Check the comments and see how many mention they saw the cover in an ad. Obviously youtube doesn't have a problem with that since they're the ones getting paid.
>>93713588Wait isn't she soft graduating? Why does she care?
>>93727156>>93741367her RM also announced a hiatus, I guess she could be quitting content creation entirely but it seems more like some kind of personal/family emergency
>>93741367Good luck trying to scam fucking google by ban evading demonetization on another account
>>93741714It should be perfectly fine if she does it as an employee or contractor of another business (her own).
>>93736627100k is a piece of cake when you get the Holobox audience. We're not talking about random shitter corpos here.
>>93711069I'm wondering. What if I stream and use their bots to reach around ~3000 and make about 50 virtual desktops shitting chat with random emotes or even connect it to some chatgpt API? I don't care about being famous, but I'd like to scam retarded vpn/mobile games companies into giving me money and free shit.Would they catch me fast? Can I still do it after getting demonetized purely to bait retarded companies? Is it illegal in some form if agreement doesn't say shit about me not being a fraud?
>>93725753I cant think of anywhere in SEA that has mexican-grade cartels. Maybe Myanmar but I doubt anyone has internet in Myanmar
>>93727156She's not graduating
>>93741367She's not soft graduating at sll. She is going on a hiatus because of a family emergency (read,: LA fire). But she is doing too well at v4 and she knows it
>>93742633When is she coming back?
>>93724982I have a question: I thought he was also botting Fauna. Yes, I know she can naturally reach 10K, or was it someone else botting her for whatever reason, sometimes? I don’t follow what this idiot is doing or the three generals.
>>93742289My impression is that it would be "against terms of service" but not "illegal". For it to be illegal there needs to laws being broken. Somebody could sue you for fraud perhaps, and only after a legal process you'd get a clear answer on how much you need to pay for breaking their terms.
>>93713588It's funny that people raise a stink on twitter because that was the only way to get a human response from youtube team but now youtube have bots responding to those tweets. Full circle.
>>93711069
>>93747137No, ironically, he explicitly was botting everyone but Fauna, basically whoever was closest to her in viewcount so he would have to pay the least money to get them over her viewcount, entirely for the purpose of not letting /#/fags say that she "took gold" for CCV that day
>>93731249i stole that pic from the jewthread, take it up with them
>>93711069i honestly dont know why youtube goes after brave us small fish when theres the niji homos with 10ks of ccv with the chat speed of a 3view
>>93756548I think the difference is probably company paid bots vs third party (fans or antis) paid bots, and presumably YouTube has some method of estimating who's doing it. Otherwise Biboo and some other Holos would be in trouble because of Ennacuck.
>>93752848Thanks, fuck /#/fagggots
>>93757656>spoilerI agree, and if he was only shitting up /#/ and fucking with them using bots I'd probably like him. Unfortunately he's a legit schizo who also posts catalog bait threads fairly frequently too.
>>93740399She already had trouble with adsense after leaving eien, so I dunno if that was ever resolved in the first place
>>93757990Agree
>>93736627esl...
>>93711559>thinks subbots costs a lothow fucking new are you.
>>93725880Wasn't her and CC's streams botted last week? Or are they actually 5 views now.
>>93711069proofs?
>>93729969yeah, claiming the ban against her is antisemitic, that usually works just look how quick they were but only for her. Big Tech wouldn't want to inconvenience the chosen people
>>93770860fuck off bumpschizo
>>93742177>100k is a piece of cakeIt is when you buy out all the viewer bots.
>>93725366analytics, more bot views means less ad clicks per view
When do you think vspo will be demonetized?
>>93711069Brave group in shambles, nijisanji thriving chu chu :)
>>93711069Did they fix it yet?
>>93783658No
>>93760515Cost is a subjective matter anon.
>>93711069It was probably Phase.
>>93729667Pippa (globie) too
>>93756548CCV bot get weed out easily by youtube You can see a botted stream having the same amount of views as a non-botted stream after the stream ends. Just check any bijou streamsBasically /#/ schizo buys low tier bots so Youtube doesn't careBrave bought expensive bots that can fuck with the algorithm and Youtube stamped their foot down, they have very high short views beside their high sub counts
>>93711069If they want their monetizations back, they could have just fucking asked.
