>>93766764
>Please refer to me with any of these 3 names
>I don't like being called something else
amazing how your monkey brain takes offense from a simple harmless request

>>93766764
Corpos should start providing meds for their vtubers

>>93767365
This is such a silly thing to be upset about, I'm pretty sure those other names came to be because of chat calling her in different ways

>>93767365
>amazing how her monkey brain takes offense from a simple harmless nickname
ftfy

>>93767766
>this is such a silly thing to be upset about
and the catalog melty about it isn't?

>>93768143
That's par for the course

>>93766764
zogog....

>>93766764
My needy cutie

>>93766764
Doobfags/Namiefags are afraid of hololive success and the downfall of their whores.

>>93766764
>Kronii 2.0
Which Advent will she ghost so hard that she's forced to graduate?

>>93768143
its literally been 1 day of being called "zogogo"

>>93768508
oh please do continue pushing this rrat, let Fauna be known as the retard that left because a homocollaber ghosted her

Be nice to Mococo...

Isn’t the joke that we keep calling her different names every time? Marco John? Mango Jam?

>>93766764
Good. There are too many unfunny retards in the hololive fanbase driving jokes into the ground. I hope she goes nuclear and starts banning anyone saying retarded nicknames.

>>93768508
Fuwawa

>>93766764
Zogog? That means she is a fan of Gundam?

>>93766764
I'm gonna call you retard, and you'll like it. You have no say in this matter.

imagine being a dog simp and defending this behavior.

>>93771154
she fucking wont because shes desperate for numbers
thats the annoying part about their behavior

>>93766764
Nigger she just doesn't like how the discord came up with Flatwawa last Monday

>>93773647
>>93773749
Can you ruffians stop being such pearl clutching faggots please

>>93766764
Kronii and Ina both dealt with a lot of coomers making sexually degrading comments so I sort of get why they occasionally lecture their viewers. Mococo likely has reasons for being specific about nicknames and sounds like she is regretting the fact that she used a nickname on her new outfit. The fan base often watches Hololive talents tease each other and they don't understand that it's different when the mocking statements are being made by hundreds of guys in a YouTube chat.

>>93768261
>>93772818
Cool it with the antisemitism pal

>>93773749
>Childish content
>Don't like when the audience act like children

>>93766764
Why don't you respect her name choices?

>>93766764
>It makes me really upset to be called things other than my name
This is the part that bothers me. She's not upset, she was probably just told that it harms discoverability. She's pretending it upsets her to control her fans into changing their behaviour.

Over such a small thing, too.

>>93771118
That's the joke, and Mococo is sick and tired of it.

>>93774115
>she was probably just told that it harms discoverability
Wouldn't biboo have been on chopping for this long ago then?

>>93774812
the chopping block*

>>93771154
I actually liked the mango jam meme...

>>93774115
controlling your fanbase is good though.

>>93767365
I think of all the other streamers who love being called by their silly nicknames, and wonder why it bothers fwmc so much. Like imagine if vinesauce cared about what he was called, or jerma. I cant think of a single reason why and I've never seen this behavior before. silly nicknames are fun for the streamer and stream.

>>93767365
fpbp

>>93766764
it wouldn't even be a big deal if she'd shut the fuck up about it. now that she keeps sperging out people are going to latch on and do it more and more just to piss her off

>>93768143
The damn shirt says Zogog, of course people will comment on that.

Is she upset because she actually doesn't like the nicknames or is it like a branding/SEO thing I wonder

>>93782220
at this point I think its because it makes searching for herself on twitter and stuff harder

Actually dumber then Kronii which is quite a feat 84h8a

>>93782266
are ruffians just too stupid to tag their posts?

>>93775227
>controlling your fans is good though
Yeah no shit. It's about how you do it. Lying is not how to do it.

>>93782612
Btw i don't think she was outright lying or being intentionally dishonest. I just don't like how it came across

>>93782437
are you stupid? you think most posts are tagged? This is like that time when Kiara was struggling to find holoEN content on the sims because she was searching for the tag. Any normal person would just search for name and not the tag.

>>93766764
EN Flare KEEEEEEEK

>>93783202
sounds like fans reflect the streamer

>>93774115
The dogs are giant number crunchers so this isn't surprising. Even some of the Ruffians on their split and on their discord, not to mention the subreddit, think that she's being too sensitive about discoverability. Biboo's doing fine at the very least, but then again she isn't a terminal numberbrain like the twins are.

>>93767365
these monkeys live to be upset and be nuisance, Mococo is okay with nicknames but if fans start calling her multiple names it will affect her branding something that a lot of JPs have talk about and how it can affect their growth.

>>93766764
its okay, they'll never recover from moving to japan.

>>93783799
Biboo has a worse off nickname and yet her ccv is doing better than the twin's. The only thing FWMC mogs Biboo at is subs which are a nothingburger if your views can't back it up.

>>93784156
the problem is having multiple nicknames, having a single one is rather useful.

>>93775428
Dearest Melpert...

What does Michael Cat think about being called Miguel Gato

>>93784588
>Biboo
>Beejoe
>Bobbi
>Boobi
It's not a single one.

>>93784770
She thinks you should learn Japanese.

>>93783799
>it will affect her branding something that a lot of JPs have talk about and how it can affect their growth.
You mean like how Fubuki was being referred to as Friend and specifically was a part in not just her but the entirety of Hololive exploding?
You mean like how the Banpire joke about Mel ended up becoming one of the very few things that ever put her on the map?
You mean like Haachama, which turned into a whole ass "personality" that she leaned into?
You mean like the Gorilla joke introducing that delicious gap moe to Kanatan?


Yeah, you're right. It does affect their growth. For the better, you fucking retard.

But I always called her Mogojan

>>93766764
Autism.

>>93784871
"Zogogo" is not going to create anything positive.

>>93785145
Sure, just like Goombah and Biboo and Tsunogaki didn't bring back any attention to their respective members. You'd be hard pressed to find a nickname that actively was a detriment to any Holo's career, even the one that was literally a joke about being banned from the platform wasn't seen as a negative.

>>93785246
>Goombah
Goomba, though I suppose those variant probably existed at some point.

>>93785145
>a word that doesn't exist would be less positive for whatever reason than literal fucking mango jam
retard

>>93785145
Not with her autism it won't, now she's gift wrapped "Zogogo" for the anti's to spam ad infinitum

>>93785398
>>93785398
Goombah is a mario thing. Tsunogaki and Banpire are funny puns. Biboo is meaningless. Zog is a fucking political slur, retard.

>>93785625
You're only giving more power to Zogogo, retard.

>>93785625
Fuck, i don't know, maybe she shoud've looked at the outfit with her eyes.
It doesn't take half of a retard to know that people will spam zogog

>>93785967
>moving the goalpost
Like I said, it's a bad nickname.

>>93785625
What the fuck is a "political" slur, and how does Zog being one relate to a one-off joke about Zogogo? Do you also think the word Nigeria is a "country slur"?

>>93786076
Yeah, she should've. Or try to get it fixed now. But the point is it's not a name she should give in to.

>>93785625
>Zog is a fucking political slur, retard.
This, da 'umiez should stop say'n mean fings about us orks.

>>93786145
Zogog funny so i don't care.
And it's not in her power to dictate now.

Why do people claim to want autistic girls and then complain about the consequences

Like to see them post that in Japanese.

>>93786095
No, you dumb fuck. It's a politically charged term like nazi or tankie or nimby or baizuo. Not something they would want to associate with.

>>93786081
ok zogosimp

>>93783799
I mean if they care about brand then FWMC is the only one that matters. Its pretty much them and what most know them by. Their singular names really do nothing for them.

And this is why they are slipping with their EN audience or maybe in general. Just no fun allowed.

>>93766764
Would be hilarious if she actually blacklisted Zogogo

>>93786292
>It's a politically charged term like nazi or tankie or nimby or baizuo.
The only result I get for it on google is an acronym referring to a group quite possibly almost no one has heard of, and if you're going to start screaming using words that have acronyms of retarded groups should never be used then you should start screaming about the Nimbus Cloud.

>>93766764
This doesn't seem like Kronii/Ina coomer alergy, although Kronii seems okay with it now? This is akin to Flare autism if anything.

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Alright, how should /vt/ address her then? I like ZOG, personally.

>>93786514
Zog is widely known online. Your real/feigned ignorance of it doesn't matter.

>>93786292
>or baizuo.
>implying a chinese term nobody in the west has heard of has the same impact to the layman as nigger or gook
???????????

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ShonGOD speaks sit down

>>93786631
I'm not implying that, I'm saying it would also be an undesirable nickname if you were, say, a corpo with a sizeable chinese market. They're in a market where plenty of people know what zog means.

>>93766764
Virgin Fuwamoco:
>upset with more than 3 nicknames
Stacy Biboo:
https://youtube.com/shorts/VxfbBDloH0E?si=npJbEbA3Vgfp7qDs
(But not Bagel, Bimbo or Bidet)

Although, like both of them and understand fwmc concerns, but still funny

>>93786292
It's true, everytime you type the words Mococo you're actually calling her black. Twice actually, between the Moc and the coco.
>>93786770
I don't really care what Shondo has to say on anything but I'm surprised she's not dragging clippers through the mud as they are 90% of the reason why the whole nicknames stuff even started.

>>93786770
What incentive is behind her post

>>93786771
but they're not nijichinks?

>>93786257
This isn’t autism, it’s branding and a mask off moment.

>>93766764
Love it when my entertainment tells me how to have fun. Truly the best of times we live in.

>>93786925
Yeah, and it's a more obscure term than zog, but still not a nickname a cover talent would want. Zog is worse.

>>93786985
if it was branding she wouldn't want any nicknames retard

>>93786612
No, people hating jews is widely known online, but nobody uses the acronym to say they hate jews. They just say they hate jews.
This is also ignoring that 90% of them are American's who don't realize the difference between Medicare and Medicaid or don't know that Taco Bell's meat taco's aren't actually meat or (insert literally any piece of geographically knowledge here).

>>93787024
more obscure? more like literally fucking unknown because nobody here speaks your disgusting language

>>93786770
i fucking hate this grifter whore, she acts like she's literally the asmongold of vtubing

>>93787024
Anon nobody here would know jack shit about the chink version of gringo let alone any of the actual ones like the aforementioned nigger, the only two chinese words anyone needs to know are wumao and Tiananmen Square. The fact that you're bringing up baizhu or whatever reflects far more on you than any insult I could give you.

>>93787024
its strange you keep bringing up zog when the text was zogogo which is a completely different word

>>93784782
>bobbi
>Boobi
Stop making shit up anon and you forgot "beebs" but only Shiori call her that

>>93786770
Whenever Shondo talks i put my ear plugs in because i am afraid they might bleed. @ me again after she learns how to tone down her shrieks

>>93787104
Plenty of people use it where it's allowed and plenty know what it means regardless. It's not comparable to the other nicknames, simple as.

>>93787257
I'm not just talking about here you fucking myopic retard. Cover wouldn't like a politically charged name like that despite being virtually unknown in the west, so a term like zog is even worse. It came to mind from a recent conversation but either way it fits the point.

>>93766764
Dude I get it. Her reaction was childish, but I don't think it's an insane request to not call her names she's uncomfortable with. Especially since she's asked this to stop before.

>>93787520
not our fault you see a word and then see a totally different word within it, are you also the type to imagine cocks whenever you think about women?

>>93786985
>mask off
?

>>93787531
The request wasn't to ban specific nicknames, but to only use those 3

>>93787583
>cocks out of nowhere
You got bigger issues to deal with than this, homonigger

>>93787674
yep, you're definitely the type to imagine cocks whenever you see women. that actually perfectly explains this weird obsession with shortening zogogo to zog because you really really really wanna see that term much like you wanna see cock

>>93787496
Boobi certainly isn't made up, but CC only called her that during one stream, and Bijou explicitly said only CC could call her that, and I don't think she has since.

>>93787712
>more cock fixation and projecting
Should've known antis are homos

>>93787520
>over wouldn't like a politically charged name like that despite being virtually unknown in the west, so a term like zog is even worse.
It's a good thing nobody is calling her zog then?

>>93787673
Yeah it was, and I don't see what the big deal is.

>>93787801
respect my pronouns shit

>>93787776
antis? i dont give a fuck about whatever people call her, im just saying that you're simply obsessed with seeing demons because you're mindbroken, if anything you're the anti for consistently trying to push this
>ZOGOGO IS RACIST STOP SAYING ZOGOGO STOP STOP STOP
sissy shit

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>>93787825
If you're going to keep anting Mococo then I'm going to keep saying Mumei is autistic.

>>93787520
Her issues with Zogogo aren't because of whatever shit you're on about, it's because she's an autist who hates having nicknames and/or because of numbers, pick your poison.

If you wanna blame someone beyond potential mental illness, then blame the Ruffians for forcing her into the position of mogojyan in the first place.

>>93788048
The only autist in EN is Mumei.

>>93787841
Yes, I'm the anti for respecting her innocent wish to not use that name. Retarded nigger.
I encourage anyone to talk about zog and the JQ, but not in hololive chats.

>>93788120
but you're not respecting her wishes at all, you're twisting them into some weird political bullshit and screeching about it at the top of your lungs, i don't care if you're jewish or a faggot anon this is a safe space

>>93767365
Shut up Mojojojo

>>93785145
Damn that's crazy it's almost like her fucking outfit literally looks like that with her jacket on

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>>93788085
>very particular about textures and patterns
>hates loud noises
>can’t watch a cartoon with grotesque or art and animation otherwise she’d just go “NO NO I DON’T LIKE THAT I REALLY DON’T LIKE THAT UEH”
>picky eater and not afraid to give honest criticism of the food
>loves netflix romance slop, but only the ones she cares for so don’t bother suggesting your own
>doesn’t like being sung to
>needs to prepare for things hours or days in advance, doesn't like it when things get changed unexpectedly
>cries easily
>constantly worries about imagined scenarios (getting sad about Advent leaving Japan WHILE THEY'RE STILL IN JAPAN)
>extremely picky about personal items such as cutlery

>OH I LIKE BUILDING IN THAT GAME
>i’m gonna mine
>RAFFIANS I MADE STAIRS DID I DO GOOD

ueh textures
ueh little spoons
ueh i like building
ueh i don't like dinosaurs
ueh i'm not a fan of bees
ueh veins
ueh i don't like touching wrists
ueh it's sticky

>>93788181
>>93788245
Retards

>>93788181
Woah! Relax there buddy! You can't just drop a m*j like that, that's sexist against women in albanian or some shit!

>>93788048
No it isn't fucking numbers, because searching zogogo brings them up, and you retards keep saying how she should capitalize on it like other vtubers. And it's not simply nicknames because while she said she prefers similar names, she didn't rail this hard against the others. This one made her put her foot down.

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>>93788252
Alright fine they both have autism.
Mumei
-can't maintain eye contact and have face blindness
-is sensitive to physical contact and doesn't like hugging her parents out of fear of hearing their stomachs growl and feel their breaths
-hyperfixiates on little details on stream
-dislikes very specific sounds like balloons popping or the way her grandparents say 'celery'
-hates the sound of lotion and the feeling of it on her hands and her mom would rub lotion in car rides just to annoy her.
-struggles with theory of the mind (realizing other people have a different set of information than you.)
-dislikes sudden small changes
-ordered takeout because she didn't want what her mom was cooking and told her the takeout would taste better. Mom got upset and at the time didn't know why she was mad.
-speaking in a strange candence where she'll either yell something out or speaking in the same pitch
-got stuck in a hotel elevator with someone and they got scared and started crying. Was told by Mumei to stop crying because she didn't know why they were scared.
-has difficulty visualizing things in her head
-has an extreme obsession with whales and orcas specifically and can easily be read as a special interest.
-her parents behave similarly to her and autism is hereditary

1. Social Interaction Style
Mumei’s interactions often come across as somewhat shy or awkward, which could be interpreted as traits commonly associated with autism. Her character sometimes exhibits moments of social hesitation, such as being unsure of what to say or showing reluctance in conversations. This type of behavior can be seen as a reflection of social challenges that many autistic individuals experience.

2. Communication Style
Mumei’s way of speaking sometimes includes sudden changes in topics or unpredictable reactions, which some might relate to the unique communication patterns seen in autism. For example, she might make comments or jokes that seem out of place or that only partially align with the topic at hand, reflecting a form of processing that’s distinct from neurotypical communication.

3. Quirky and Endearing Behavior
One common stereotype of autism is that it comes with unique, endearing behaviors that stand out in social interactions. Mumei displays a kind of innocence and sometimes a "childlike" quality that could be interpreted as a hallmark of neurodivergence. Her slightly clumsy or playful behavior, along with her occasional outbursts of excitement, can be seen as consistent with the spontaneous and unfiltered expressions that are characteristic of some autistic people.

4. Difficulty with Social Norms
Mumei occasionally seems to struggle with social norms and cues, which might be read as her having a different way of perceiving and processing interactions. Whether she’s uncertain about group dynamics or appears to misunderstand jokes, these moments could be interpreted as signs of how an autistic individual might respond to social situations.

5. Repetitive or Ritualistic Behaviors
While less pronounced, some fans have pointed out that Mumei’s behavior can sometimes appear ritualistic or involve repetitive patterns (e.g., certain catchphrases or behaviors). This can be seen in how she engages with her audience, her unique greetings, and how she repeats certain phrases or gestures. Repetitive behaviors can be part of the sensory and behavioral experiences found in autism.

6. Emotional Expression
Mumei’s character shows a range of emotions, sometimes in ways that seem exaggerated or different from what might be considered typical. Her excitement, confusion, or moments of being overly serious might seem unusual in the context of typical VTuber interactions but can be interpreted as a unique emotional processing style that some autistic individuals may have.

>>93788307
>And it's not simply nicknames because while she said she prefers similar names, she didn't rail this hard against the others
She literally went on the exact same sperg out from Mocojohn and Mangojam

Every time you say her name you only make Zogogo more powerful. The ultra secret fourth sister will emerge. Mococo is trying to warn you and you just don't listen.

hell even the fanarts they RT'd looks like "ZOGOG"

>>93788152
>no you're not actually doing what she asked by not calling her the name
Amazing twisting of reality, perhaps even more projection at the end of your post there

Oh no, Kay Yu's gonna have to edit the tower now... he's on her shit list...

>>93788377
No, she just stated a preference before, she didn't say outright not to use a specific name like she did for Zogogo on stream.

>>93788307
>And it's not simply nicknames because while she said she prefers similar names
But she doesn't. She explicitly brought this up the first time but people kept using mogojyan. She was originally only okay with Mococo or Moco-chan. Not Mocoecoe, not Mococae, not Mogo-jyan, Mococo. Go ahead and pull up that clip from 5 or 6 months ago and act like that was the first instance of her going hard against nicknames, it'll really make you look like a ruffian.

>>93786770
i like shondo but why tf does she think she has any input on this matter.

>>93788529
See above

>>93788521
>she didn't say outright not to use a specific name like she did for Zogogo on stream.
Oh so we're just lying now?

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>>93788521
>she just stated a preference before

>>93788481
>mococo: i don't want to be referred to that because that's not my name
>you: YOU CAN'T USE IT BECAUSE ITS A POLITICAL SLUR (wdhmbt?)

>>93788521
>she didn't say outright not to use a specific name like she did for Zogogo on stream.
She has said, at MULTIPLE POINTS, to not use specific names, even spelling them out to the fucking letter. I can't even call you a falseflagger because even the worst falseflaggers know basic entry level information to shitpost. You're just a faggot.

>>93788740
No she didn't. She said that people might be confused by those specific names. She said, on stream, verbatim, "Please don't call me Zogogo, okay?" She didn't say that for the others.

>>93788668
I said that's what makes it a bad nickname you illiterate thirdie, in response to all the fucking mouthbreathers saying "lol just go with it! It's just like goomba or biboo!"

>>93788931
>No she didn't.
Nigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23CUuT0VEa4

>>93789008
Exactly what I said, asswipe. She stated a preference before, she didn't explicitly request not to use a name like she did now.

>>93788931
>I said that's what makes it a bad nickname
whats does your feelings on the nickname matter? mococo doesn't want that as her nickname because she doesn't want that as her nickname. you screaming it's because of some mindbroken bullshit is by definition spitting in her face because you're looking for a reason other than the one she gave you
then again you probably didn't watch the stream or any of fuwamoco's streams given how you just outright said "mococo has never complained about nicknames repeatedly", like holy shit what a godawful self report

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>>93789119
>she didn't explicitly request not to use a name like she did now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tQ0wANcooQ

>>93788120
sissy faggot

>>93789119
Oh we're really lying today huh.

>>93789121
I outright said she didn't complain about them as hard as this one, where she singled it out and said verbatim "Please don't call me" that name. You apes are screaming that she should go with it like those other nicknames that didn't have a slur embedded in them.

>>93789240
Spic.

grown men arguing over teletubbies lol

>>93766764
This is why I prefer Beejoe.

>>93788931
>in response to all the fucking mouthbreathers saying "lol just go with it! It's just like goomba or biboo!"
Who said this? The only mentions of those two I see in this thread were someone saying nicknames can be good but nobody has said anything along the lines of "just use zogogo lol". People are making fun of her for being anal about nicknames but that's an entirely different sentence.

>>93789340
and you were outright wrong when you said that, why are you even still posting? if you wanna get to bump limit just ask, i won't do it but i'm sure someone else will mock your gay little song and dance of lies you've done for the past hour or three

>>93789489
Here >>93784871
In another thread too comparing it to Marine's personas, which also don't have that issue, and is numberfag logic anyway.

>>93789589
No, I literally wasn't. Both the clips you niggers just posted show her talking in a general sense, not explicitly requesting to not use a specific name. You can go back to your shitcord or the catalog now.

>>93766764
This is a simple request and I'm starting to dislike Ruffians if they are going to froth at the mouth about it

why is she such an autistic anti fun nazi?

>>93766764
This what happens when thin skinned bitches get a bit of clout. Hope their CCV keeps getting lower. Dumb entitled cunts.

Canacucks...

>>93789762
>Ruffians

>>93786856
The big difference is that those names are reserved for the other holomems only. Not the fans, she even says that outright. Mococo's name has been through the blender so hard its become completely different.
>moco-chan
>mogo-jyan
>mango jam
>zogogo

It's basically that phone game where you whisper something into someone's ear, it gets passed down the line, and by the end it has completely changed. If a nickname is said with endearment it's a different story, but the zog name comes from shitlording about poor shirt design. If Zog sticks that will be blended into something else as well.

>>93766764
ZOGGED

What were these nicknames that ticked her off?

>>93767365
>thinking you get to pick and choose your own nicknames

A few members have made comments on what they want to be called normally during streams though, I remember Mori doing it, and the same with Bae. In another thread someone mentioned Ina and Kronii.

Likely some management is saying to try and limit nickname shit for branding purposes and some of the girls just take a direct approach and say what they want to be called.

>>93791820
I do not recall any of the members you have mentioned complaining and requesting to be called a specific way

>purposefully cultivate an insanely childish fanbase
>get offended when they act like retarded children
Explain this

>>93782612
>proposes headcanon
>gets mad about said headcanon
man some of you really need to take your meds

>>93791903
Mori had a few times asking for people to stop calling her Calliope Mori, and Bae asked people to stop calling her Hakos Bagel as well as the same thing as Mori with the name reverse

>>93766764
>does nothing wrong
>she is just like Kronii
True

sadly this is what happens when most women are not under sharia law
they start to think that they can have an opinion

>>93791999
Both cases were banter with chat. They never minded being called as such

>botzuha gets snubbed like the bitch he is
>nijiniggers run rampart with their retarded threads to deflect
SEA was a mistake

>>93792310
I feel bad for schizos think everything is a deflection

>>93792376
as opposed to the shizos trying to make another mountain out of a molehill?
shits not even original. we already had that song and dance with FBK and calling her cat

>>93766764
Seriously? It hasn't even been a day since the outfit reveal. At least it took Kronii an entire year before she killed the subway meme

>>93766764
Why can't she just ignore them and let it pass the way IRyS let Taxpayers and other shit boil over
Do these girls realise they're in showbusiness and that it's impossible to completely curate their image

It's really funny to see the kind of silly shit that becomes a problem in the holo walled garden

>>93786770
Looks like zogopan is my personal new nickname for mococo, then.
Thanks, Shondo!

>>93775428
They're not as talented as Subaru

>>93791904
>>93791904
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>>93785246
gawr gura, gura, same, same desu, same-chan, samegaki, shark, the shart, the shork, goob, the goobster, goobi (and goobie and gooby), goomb, goomba (and goombah), george, gabby, gabriel, goobidiba, goober, guwa, gwombus (and guambus), gorbius, chef (YES CHEF!), giselle, gooruh, goobs and my favorite GOOBA

Now that i think of it gura has been giving herself silly nicknames and distorting her image years before the whole "foreigners like images like this"

>>93766764
>oshi FWMC
>get cancelled streams, paywalled ASMRs in japanese no ASMR in english, they prioritize JP over everything, they get mad at light hearted jokes and take months to finish a 5 hour long game, they pump everyone for superchats
>oshi Biboo
>she rolls with the jokes, always puts her EN fans first, she spoils the artists, she beats games in a timely manner, streams a lot

>>93784156
CCV is easier to manipulate with raids and bots. Subs are YOUR fans and harder to achieve. It's the top thing anyone behind the scenes take seriously and is used to gain advertisers.

>>93795128
lmao what kind of dumbass logic is that? Subs are much easier because people click a button and then never show up again, that's why the "reddit do your thing" works when they want to "save" someone

>>93795023
>paywalled ASMRs in japanese no ASMR in english
Blatant fucking lies

>>93795253
Oh have they made ASMR in english finally?

>>93788252
>ueh i don't like dinosaurs
That's worse than being autistic.

>>93786919
>>93787227
>>93792988
These are nijitrannies

>>93766764
>You're having fun in a way that doesn't align with my preferred branding
>Please stop doing that at once and start using one of our corporate-approved nicknames instead.
Do ruffians really?

I love Mococo Abyssgard of Hololive English Advent 2016 COVER Corp.

>>93786770
How the fuck is this bullying
Dumb cunt

>teletubbie asmr in japanese
Who buys that shit

>>93795445
tagging my Hentai the way the mega corpo intended

>>93795445
Excuse me, it's Mococo Abyssgard©

>>93766764
Qrd? What nickname are these retards having a melty about? Or is it just generally that they want to have full control over the fandom? They sound like no-fun-allowed control freaks.

>>93766764
This is the price you pay for numbers.
In exchange for "noomba go big", you attract the worst fans who beat jokes to death.
They could have avoided this.

>>93796055
No, the price of going big is being a boring corpo vtuber who has to worry more about protecting the brand than delivering fun content

Kronii has never cared about nicknames, theyre EN Flare

>>93796127
You basically agreed with me.

>>93796055
they don't even get big numbers it's basically worst of both worlds

>>93766764
Mojo Jojo...

The only ruffians left are those not smart enough to leave after being abandoned
Of course they’re obnoxious retards

you cant act like cocomelon with that bau bau shit and then get mad when your fans act like mentally stunted man children and run jokes into the ground

>>93766764
Dont you DARE pollute my brand

>>93796055
They pumped their subs with tons of dead subs from vertical streams and actual begging everywhere, and their CCV constantly goes down. They have godly supas from the remaining mega parasocial fanbase, but that also means good 30% of their streaming time is spent reading supas.

>>93788252
is it even possible for a twin to be an autist and the other one to not be?

>>93796347
It really is because you basically have reddit tourists following you
The same ones that subbed to Aki and basically never watched her again unless something big happens and they can pretend again

Mister Koro is right.

Mocock

>>93797199
And then they do 3 streams a week because of the homework vortex and cancelled streams.
TLDR it's not going to get any better

>>93797199
Nijiseethe

>>93797471
Yeah

STOOPID WUFFIANS, IF YOU KEEP CALLING MOCO-CHAN SILLY NAMES IT WILL OUR NUMBERS BAUBAU.......
YEA! IF....IF THE WUFFIANS CALLING ME MOCOJAM THE NORMIES WONT FIND US!!!

The numberdogs are only in holo for the cash, i respect it, but you gotta be subtle about it or the fan base will get mad

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>>93783799
>these monkeys live to be upset and be nuisance

I don't even watch them but isn't this something that could easily be solved by just ignoring it and letting it die out?

>>93766764
WHOWAWA?

>>93796055
Also happened to Rin Penrose who had her subs inflated due to short spam and had to put her foot down on retards

>>93798635
not really because it's on her outfit chat would spam it every time it's on screen

>>93766764
KEKICHOKI deserved for trying to leech so hard from JP

>>93798821
Then why the fuck have it on your outfit

>>93786770
>now trying to leech from FWMC because notFauna is completely ignoring her
lol this is funny

>>93771118
Watch streams monkey

>>93798905
I guess she didn't notice

>>93798717
This is why shorts spam is great short term but fucking terrible long term

>>93766764
this somehow ties back to numbers and branding, doesn't it
not a single thing from these girls is genuine

>>93798953
she has been a fan of them before they debut as FWMC. How is talking about them, which is also nothing new, suddenly leeching?

>>93782322
Not really? Getting upset when someone typed "holy booba" when your model is literally booba is 100% woman moment

>>93766764
I'm already unsubbed from the BAU BAU whores, time to more actively block them.

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Kirin Kilobyte would never sperg like this..

>>93786770
Is this a meds or no meds post

>>93773919
Kill
yourself

This is why Fuwawa is the better one

>>93803083
Shut up Fuwawa, this is not about you

>>93801262
>bong

>>93786770
I love Shondo when she's medicated.

>>93766764
NOOOOOO PLEASE USE MY PRONOUNS
You will never be a real Mococo, zogogo

>>93798972
How could you not?
>Wuffians i hate ducks, stop mentioning ducks
>New outfit has a duck logo
>Wuffians stop bringing up ducks! I had no idea this would happen?!

>>93798905
It says Mogogo
Are you retarded?

>>93803911
shut up Zogogo

There's a lot of antisemitism ITT

>>93785967
>please allow me to be a chud in peace
kys

>>93766764
Please respect our masters' trademarks bigot.

>>93766764
Jesus fucking christ, these bitches are taking the kayfabe way too seriously if they are being petty bitches about nicknames. What in the fuck were they called that set this off?

>>93786770
Time to listen to your wife, chuddies

>>93766764
And that’s why they got MOGGED by Biboo and Nerissa in ccv. Beebs, Biboo or whatever and Nerissa let’s everyone lewd her however people want.
>Gura
Even Gura had the Goob, gorwbus, Goobs, Gobidiba, Goomba, etc and she doesn’t have a melty. Seems FWMC just having a melty from losing popularity as Ruffians even stopped buying merch after they accepted every merch option available. Not even Gura did that before

>>93766764
Instead of lashing out at english fans, shouldn't they be focusing on their next JP only collab or something? You know, as you would expect from a member of HoloENGLISH

>>93804063
Cover doesn’t give a fuck if it sells

>>93804295
Gura came up with half her nicknames herself, I don't think that applies to zogocock

>>93784871
>You mean like how the Banpire joke about Mel ended up becoming one of the very few things that ever put her on the map?
Mel actually hated that meme name, in fact most of the memes that were made of her she was not particularly fond of.

>>93804295
OOK OOK OOK LOOK AT NUMBER GIVE ME BANANA

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you can't un-meme a meme once it's been meme'd

>>93786770
>gentle
>kindness
>patience
>inspiring
>lucky
>treasure
>kindness
>restrained
Shut up you fucking woman and/or tranny

Just get your jewtube janny to filter the phrase in chat, what's the problem

>>93791097
>It's basically that phone game where you whisper something into someone's ear, it gets passed down the line, and by the end it has completely changed. If a nickname is said with endearment it's a different story, but the zog name comes from shitlording about poor shirt design. If Zog sticks that will be blended into something else as well.
So what I am getting from this, if we allow it to continue then eventually Godwin's Law will occur

>>93804639
What do you watch?

>>93804527
We gonna pretend FWMC aren’t numberfags now? No other EN has ever been as blatant

>>93791904
When either Bijou, CC, or GG have a mask off moment you'll be the one spamming the catalog next

>>93804639
mind broken

>>93794984
This is why Gura will always be better than Fuwamoco

>>93804940
that wouldn't get the replies though

>>93805127
It won’t bait the people who are still angry for ignoring FWMC ignoring the homos moment so you are right

>>93805596
Nobody cares about that

>>93792196
Post hand Mahmoud

>>93792655
Control your own then
>>93792817
What do you expect, most people here oshi the company and hate the talents.

>>93800849
Why are unicorns like this?

>>93800337
>Getting upset when someone typed "holy booba" when your model is literally booba is 100% woman moment
Anon having to constantly read messages from porn addicted coomers making degrading boob jokes would be Hell for most vtubers. Hololive did force Kronii and Ina to use lewd models so there is a reason they hate the sleazy coombait. Cover marketing their first 2 Korean talents like sex objects was obviously going to cause a lot of behind the scenes fights. This board isn't known for empathy but vtubers have a lot of stress even when things are going well. Should be obvious why they don't want fans mocking them.

>>93806725
Shut up Kronii I'mma jerk off to you now

>>93805971
>Control your own then
ah a retarded anon who thinks i can just tell people to not post something
on top of that a moron who thinks he is in another retarded culture war

>>93803528
>>Wuffians i hate ducks, stop mentioning ducks
Reminds how Subaru never asked for the duck thing but she rolled with it and we ended up with things like HoloTori

I don't understand why anyone would watch Fuwamoco, they're literally the most boring vtubers Hololive has ever debuted, even worse than Mel
>but keyfabe
Their keyfabe is shit, they're dedicated but their whole shtick is as boring as an episode of Barney. Autism is not the same as good keyfabe, Korone, Pekora, Ceci are all better than them at creating an atmosphere and sticking to a character without the autism outbursts.
FWMC are boring, obviously fake and, most importantly, impersonal. They don't interact with their fans or their chat more than the bare minimum, they don't banter or tease, they don't open up to them other than for autistic complains like this one, everything they do is heavily curated by their manager. For how much they claim to love idols they really don't act like them.

>>93767365
Sure Zogogogo

>>93806725
Roses are red
Posts like this are bad for your health
Outfitschizo
Please go kill yourself

>>93768261
gogogogo

>be me
>love them as gogogirls
>they debut in holo
>love them as hologirls
>they change
>stop watching them and start being indifferent
>they start putting numbers into EVERYTHING they do
>hate them now
i came full circle

>>93808455
They don't talk about any personal stories from the past and things like that?

>>93788252
dont forget about her massive japan autism. shes the original definition of a weeaboo.

>>93788318
the way she behaved when kronii was tearing up over ame graduating in the aquarium stream was more than enough to be clocked as austistic to me.

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Everything they do feels like it's been mandated by some corpo people to maximize numbers/income as much as possible while avoiding upsetting /vt/ schizos and/or holopurists. Basically no risks, no individuality, no deep thoughts, no investment into anything unless it's about getting bigger numbers and no strong feelings about anything.
I don't follow holo anymore, but from what I remember, that EN producer, jap guy, was a /#/ poster, no? Everything they do is basically what top earning JPs do, they're just copying their formula. Feels like that dimitri jap just looked at holo threads, especially /#/ with all the dipshits there, and thought "hey, no one here hates pekora, miko, marine etc etc and they are also super popular in Japan. I'm gonna groom those two twins that applied to be just like them, yeah it'll work! /vt/ will love them, there will be no controversies and they will earn a ton (which will result in fat bonuses for me!)" and this resulted in the most soulless fence-sitting holos ever.

>>93816624
Why are you posting your own picture?

>>93816808
Very tired of all this shit as you can see from my expression and I want everyone else to see how tired I am

>>93815318
kinda based

zogogo

>>93815318
That's not a full circle you spastic nigger.

>>93766764
Kek, this is literal crybullying.
I already didn't like them for sucking off nips but this just cements them as complete garbage.

>>93818222
Calm down rabid ruffian, your autistic dogs dont even like you because you are not japanese, its better to just end it all.

>>93786770
acting like FM are ghandi and mother theresa for graciously gracing us with three whole corporate approved nicknames. they're just control freaks obsessed with image and branding what the hell is there to be "inspired" by

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It oftentimes feels like they're mentioning subjects by going down a checklist of weeaboo and girl-related topics rather than just letting the discussion flow naturally. I found it normal and forgivable in their first year (Especially fuwamoco mornings) but now it's a little uncanny, like interacting with a costumed character at disneyland.
There are frequent melties in /baubau/ because some ruffians have the idea that FWMC are more vulnerable and open when they speak japanese, which is at least somewhat true because they're noticeably less censored or even less shy when they do. They especially use japanese to talk about lewd topics and women usually don't speak face-to-face with men about those things unless they feel safe with him. I'm not even that into GFE and even I feel some awkward distance.
It's a tough situation because it's a vicious cycle. FWMC feel distant compared to other Holos (Especially next to PARASOCIAL FUCKS like Nerissa and naturally charismatic streamers like Cecilia and Gigi) but who do we take to task for that? Fuwamoco? A staff member? Cover? Investors? Antis? Ruffians now have a reputation for being overly-clingy retards because they talk and act like they can pressure FWMC into being closer to them somehow, but how would they even begin to fix that? A situation like this where an idol has more of an addictive, unsatisfactory quality is more beneficial for Cover as long as it fuels desperate ruffians with SC cash, why would they ever help ruffians change or satiate them?
I stopped watching their usual streams when I got tired of that restless feeling and realized that they probably aren't going to evolve from this. Now I only watch their performances and karaoke streams, they still feel very idol-like in those. I'll probably give them another shot once they graduate and go indie.

>>93783616
Doesn't biboo do the same thing though? She has alot nicknames but only lets certain members use them and tells pebbles to call her biboo or bijou. The same thing with mococo having mogojyan/mogogo and not having being called other nicknames by the fans?

>>93821415
No? I've never heard Biboo say anything like that. I don't watch all of her stuff so I could be wrong but don't just talk out of your ass and dress it up as a question to plant doubt in the minds of people.

>>93766764
ok Zogog

>>93786087
Quick send it to the reddit dragon! Have some gold too good sir!

really made a thread for this huh

>>93788520
Qrd

>>93766764
>t. purebred japanese would never subject me to this, pig filthy gaijins should learn their place

>>93783799
NOOOO I HAVE TO HECKIN NUMBERFAG!!

>>93823127
>I've never heard Biboo say anything like that
She definitely says only Kaela can call her Beejoe and that Shirori can say Beebs

>>93787227
>asmongold of vtubing

holy shit I never had words for it until now - this is exactly what she is

>>93820857
I mean they have their niche and they seem very good at it, but I cannot stand the voices they put on, sounds like a parent making baby babble at their children but not in a fun and endearing way, but a grating and condescending way.

>>93836462
Asmongold does pedobaiting as his main draw? I never would have guessed it.

>>93766764
Flare 3.0