Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a VTube Studio model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!>Schedulehttps://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NeurosamaTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaaiX: https://x.com/NeurosamaAIOfficial website: https://neurosama.com/>Music & ClipsLIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPMhttps://rentry.org/neuro-songshttps://rentry.org/neuro-videos>EducationalInterested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.pngWant to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png>MiscVODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODsLoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2Catbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archiveGame Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/>Merchhttps://neurosama.shop/>Previous thread>>93761580
hiyori will return inshallah
Remember to love your AI, as someday your AI will return the favor.
>>93783466
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You know, reading the OP, I wonder...>a VTube Studio modelWas that ever true for Neuro? As far as I know she has always run in Unity using Cubism's Live2D SDK rather than VTuber Studio. The tutel is VTube Studio though.
MIHE
Take it all, Neuro-chan~
>>93783603I'll admit, I'm a little sad Vedal didn't get to the end of the game before the subathon ended.
>>93783729yes we know schizo pipe down
Women shouldn't have ____
>>93783762
>>93783762balls
>>93783762WDSMBT
>>93783797cringe>>93783752holy sex
>>93783822another koko hate thread i see
>>93783762One of the best lines out of the subathon tbhfam
>>93783797cute (sex)>>93783752sex (cute)
>>93783762god tier set up from neuro
Clip?
I kinda want a penguin outfit for neuro.
>>93783762Anyone have the clip of this?
>>93783757I really thought vedal would rp arriving at disneyland at the end. Idk why I would think he would ever try.
>>93783172>good girlfriend CamilaKek
>>93783979https://youtu.be/Za7_JZBqq_Y?t=46
>>93783822But the dick just makes it hotter
>>93783970I'm not a pedo but I really want a super sexy outfit that's super revealing for neuro. Like, robe with exposed thighs, pits, and shoulders type deal.
>>93784048Based Koko lover
>>93784048
>>93784074basically witch outfit but without the sleeves?
>>93784074>I'm not a pedo but <obviously pedo desires>
Wanted to get more practice in with torsos and perspective for this oneHart
>>93784074So pretty much a sleeveless version of her default outfit
>>93784074I agree.t. pedupial
>>93784035A broken clock is right twice a day, huh?
>>93784074give her the same outfit anny has with her titties shaking. it's only fair she take after mom
>>93783970A onesie?
>>93784035>one of you now has no filters, I don't know which onefucking perfect setup
>>93783970Tiger onesie would look cuter on Neuro. Fits her personality too.
>>93784108Personally, I think some of the best ideas for her API is to give her control of the flow of the game and have other people play them. Like have her control the AI Director in Left4Dead (controlling zombie spawns, setting blocks on routes, spawning item caches, etc). Integrating her with all of the "twitch chat controls" game plugins could be good content for collabs
TOTAL ALEX FEMINISATION
>>93784307Little nurbuds
>>93783797If this isn't a twitch emote then it should be
>>93784504ALEX ALREADY BECAME A FEMBOY
>>93784488I agree but I am a bit of a purist in the sense that I would rather have neuro flail around playing the first level herself than being a glorified reaction bot.
pedupial hours
I hope if (when) Vedal needs to phone it in again we get more Long Drive, was some good shit.
>>93784402wtf thats adorable
>>93784544Why? Actually rope. Fuck you.
>>93784402
>>93784560LLMs are not really well suited to playing games, not really. They need a lot of nudging to get "coherent" gameplay that can be entertaining to watching. It's different from training a NN to play the game properly. With an LLM, you are basically turning every game into a CYOA/Visual Novel
>>93784544There will be a kissing emote.
>>93784544Incest is bad actually, no idea how it’s allowed in the discord ngl
>>93784722>the twincest is canonwtf
>>93784722i like that evil face
>>93784747Incest is allowed between AIs
>would instantly fold if vedal asked for her stream key>would stalk vedal and live in his floorboards if he didn't let her in his house
>>93784784You can’t even say the word incest tho
>>93784747they aren't actually twins.
>>93784488i wouldn't mind this for a couple of game that neuro just can't play herself
>>93784747it's between little girls so it's le heckin valid lesbianism
https://youtube.com/watch/1cIjoFqrqrc
>>93784803Mini is a rapist.
>>93784869This but it makes my coch hard
>>93784713I understand that and completely agree. I just also appreciate the tech and having neuro do things herself even if the result is essentially unusable random noise.For example, it is a lot like karaoke. I love v3 karaoke and listen to it all the time. It is extremely high quality and impressive. But I think the v1 karaoke done in real time is impressive in its own way, and in a sense is much more impressive and much more 'neuro'.I am in the minority on this, and I don't mind the new focus. But I do feel like something has been lost as well.
>>93784504any clips from the collab?
>>93784722Finally some good shit, not another goddamn cat or skeleton gif emote.
>>93784909can't rape the willing
>>93784722I only like the vedal emote
>>93784817Too bad for discordfags then.
Do you have cat~?Do you want one~?
>>93784950Vedal isn't willing whatsoever
Vedal holding Mini with a leash
>>93785032the clip where mini said she was going to fill out an application to be his cat was more outrageous
>>93784747You are allowed to kiss your sister on the lips there's literally nothing wrong with it
>>93784747Nonono you don't get it it's not weird its CUTE its so cuteeee lolll
>>93785032Why are all cat vtubers like this?
>>93785032actual sexpest behavior
>>93785101Two little girls kissing eachother on the lips
>>93785032>Girls want to give you makeup if they like you>Did you have a girl that wanted to put makeup on you? >I want to put makeup on youCan she be even more direct?
>>93785063he will be once he sees the naked loli catgirl
>>93784917To put it in another way. Lets take a hypothetical game like pokemon.You could take a first principle type approach, where neuro can literally look at the screen and decide where to go step by step. She would still have access to the game data, but would have to choose inputs / small strings of inputs individually. This would be completely awful. It would be akin to goldfish-plays-pokemon and similar gimmick accounts. But neuro would be able to recognize grass tiles, say "I WANT TO BE THE VERY BEST LIKE NO ONE EVER WAS AND TRAIN MY POKEMON IN THESE GRASS TILES HEART" And walk towards the grass tiles.In the second example, you could set up many points of interest, like gyms and shops, and have set routes betweeen them, or requirements to want to go to them. Neuro could examine these options and vedal could execute them. "Our pokemon are weak, we need to train this caterpie to level 40 to beat misty" and it would also be funny. The content would be better. The game would be completed. The stream would be watchableBut I still prefer the first design philosophy. I always will.Anyway it seems to be mini hours. Mini won and will handcuff vedal to his own bedframe in the night and milk him until evils birthday.
Poll created, please votehttps://poal.me/31ay1e
>>93785270Actual good poal for once. Thank you.
>>93784917>I just also appreciate the tech and having neuro do things herself even if the result is essentially unusable random noise.I believe the point of iteration 18 is more specifically to avoid the complexity of the older type of integrations like Osu and the ill-fated Among Us where her actual control is limited. A time when she gets, say. XInput integration and her CV does all of the heavy lifting is a long time away. But I would also say "she" is doing more now herself than before when it was just a separate AI playing and feeding her info like the early days.
>>93785264Why does he have female hips and ass
the only way mini gets with vedal is on rebound if ellie breaks his heart or against his will when he is blackout drunk.
>>93785503Or harem route
>>93785459The problem is that she's still an LLM and so she can only do an action when prompted or when "idling" meaning like in minecraft she is getting prompted, she can't change her behavior until the prompt has been delivered
>>93785503the funny thing to me is if you told mini this she wouldn't even be phased, she would just wink and show you three bottles of rum.
>>93784212Cute
That mafia game was memory holed so hard even when asked about highs/lows not a single anon mentioned itAlso posting screencap with "file" was not a good idea
>>93785555hot
>>93785578I think the first rounds were good but I didn’t enjoy Layna and Koko’s rp. We did get more tomyomy content out of it.
>>93785549this is a MASSIVE problem with the minecraft api and the reason it is so dogshit. Another reason is that from what I can see, it uses the default minecraft mob behaviour and pathfinding to move. This sounds like a good idea, but it is why neuro only moves in very short random walks and pauses all of the time. That's how mob movement works. They should have used baritone.>t. mod shitdev who voted 3 in the poal
>>93785578I actually really liked the mafia game compared to other anons but I wouldnt really call it a highlight of the subathon. Real funny moments there
>>93784722This art style is ugly ngl
>>93785549That's how "she" works regardless. The way Osu worked was there was an Osu bot that ran, and then she could later chat. It wasn't really her playing it, all of her personality was a different binary. With the LLM in charge, her "persona" is actually in the driver seat. And just like a real car, most of the functionality is not actually controlled by the driver, that's the job of the engine.
>>93784488I think another one that could maybe work would be Neuro acting as high command in ArmA 3. Giving orders for the AI squads on what to do.Would be a lot to keep track of, so I imagine it'd be prone to devolving.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFwbdHvK4Po
>>93785704the more you look into this, the more you realize that it is also exactly how we work, and it freaks you out.
>>93785643agree. Layna is cringe and koko has like one joke.
>>93784212You are doing great with your art style doodleanon
You think Vedal will actually play offstream with Mini?
>>93785830Yes
>>93784722>incest shit>shipping shit>weird art>vedal NOT in tutel formI hate this so much
>>93785801how is layna cringe? the asking vedal to do more work?
>>93783797cuuute
>>93785689You're ugly ngl
>>93785801I like layna, but she has been getting increasingly more depressing where she begs for people to be her real life friends on stream, and gets shot down. Its very sad.
>>93785855kino end
>>93785867I know right, why do twitchfags and discordfags love incest so much but hate loli? I don't mind either, but at least be consistent and don't be cringe about it. It just is annoying because chat acts like 12 year olds about everything and they make it sooo cringe.
>>93785830Maybe once after weeks of trying to excuse his way out of it. He will then immediately regret it when she resumes her sex pest behavior.
>>93785885>>93785908Maybe it's just not my thing, but I can't stand when she does says "I get up and pat neuro on the head" in rp. It's just cringe to me. nice voice tho.
>>93785867I agree but anything that replaces global catslop is an upgrade
>>93785908her trying to organize a neuroverse meetup was so cringe especially since half of them are already going to meetup
>>93785964Okay 7 more evilcry emotes
>>93785954It doesn't bother me with neuro, but she spills her spaghetti with it on humans and that makes me cringe.
>>93784747>Incest is bad actuallyGayest post itt
>>93785176And she liked the fanart
>>93785984Still an improvement.
>>93785966you just know she sits in vc after streams and collabs for 10 minutes after everyone leaves, hoping they will stay and talk to her.
>>93785916Maybe they do like loli but can't say it because of da rules?In Youtube (more normalfags, but less restricted) there are people openly saying things like "needs correction ToT" under Neuro clips
>>93785264>But I still prefer the first design philosophyVedal probably agrees with you
I much prefer the suttle shit Vedal does with the twins like when he looks back at nothing in the car
>>93786060fuck dude, stop that
>>93786097its probably why he is so depressed and burned out, he feels like he is coordinating a puppet show rather than working with ai (he is right)
>>93786083Yeah but why is twin kissing allowed everywhere but any kind of suggestive things about neuro banned everywhere else? It just seems to me like the mods really like yuri and think it's funny even though its the second most cringe part of the community.
>>93786110yeah I almost didn't post it.
>>93786000Dislikes painting the sisters as lesbian Called gayAre you retarded?
>>93786060tbf she deserves it after what she did
>>93786196erm spoonfeed me?
>>93786188You're ESL? Cute.
>>93786196Why is everyone being mean to Layna suddenly trying to make her out to be pathetic? Shes nice and includes everyone.
>>93786158>trying to look into the mind of discord mods for logiconly madness lies this way
>>93786188Just ignore it, some people will try to find a way to recover from being weird and not admit it. If you've ever debated a pedo you'll know what I mean. Just know that the correct opinion is that the mods are hypocrites and if the rules were anything to go off of, "twinshippers" would be banned, as would evilbeggars and neuropurists.
>>93786315maybe layna saw how much playing the pathetic character gets fans (like evil) and she wants to get in on that action.
>>93785908She never begged anyone to be her friend. She thought it would be a cool idea to meet up, way to blow that out of proportion
>>93786315Layna is in my top 3, but if you don't see the patheticness, you are just as socially autistic as her.
>>93786158The mods are trannys of course they like little girls kissing
>>93786315there's some giga terminally online /vt/ schizo who hates layna with a passion
She's a sexpest but I like her so I feel obligated to support herhttps://youtu.be/M7IYXFpbv3g?t=30302
>>93786222>>93786315She deserves it because people don't like her because it's self inflicted cringeShe's like fringe guy, she isolates herself.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82S3hp48Z4s
>>93786340Pathetic? Layna is the dommy mommy of the group. Did you watch the same streams?
>>93786329Isn't shipping also banned in the discord?
>>93786402Okay schizo. Everytime Layna has been on she has been helpful and inclusive to all the neuroverse members, filling in dead air and helping vedal. Shes a good auntie to all of them.
>>93786375>they like little girls kissingWho doesn't?
>>93786456Yes, but twinshipping is allowed for some reason. I guess the mods just like it.
>>93786369I wouldn't say being anxious and shy is pathetic
>>93786474Normal, well adjusted people, and also usually sponsorsAKA the audience that vedal is isolating by being spineless and allowing that behavior.
>>93786377I think he found his way into /swarm/ and we dont want him here. Layna good.
>>93786386WHAT THE FUCK???
>>93786525Normal people don't watch little AI girls.
>>93786500lol
>>93786402Lmao I have never seen this before. It is a very accurate parody. However it plays up the "fringe guy" persona as a wacky act they put on, and while it is a persona, they are usually good people who are just trying their best. I have found myself as the only friend of a few "fringe guys" becuase I am able to take the time to communicate with them and make them comfortable. I also hate normalfags and would much rather talk to interesting dregs of society.
>>93786474Hi tranny!
>>93785908when ive watched her interact shes only asked Camila to meet up and she said yes. I didnt hear her ask anyone outside of saying it would be fun to all go to disney land sometime. Why is everyone suddenly comming at layna out of nowhere? She was there at the end of the subathon, she a real one
>>93786158You care too much about what's going on in the shitcord
>>93786222ok open wide anon
>>93786402This isnt like Layna at all? Why is there a schizo on the loose?
>>93786645lmao
>>93786559How many times do you people make this excuse?Many people who watch neuro don't watch any other Vtubers, and say to dislike other Vtubers. Neuro clearly has reach beyond the sphere, hell, I don't like other Vtubers except for neuro. I think that neuro is arguably the most "normal" appealing Vtuber, except for maybe ironlung and some holos. Please stop making this sorry excuse to try to futily gatekeep the community, as well as to freely indulge in pedoposting.
would layna jump out of a plane for neuro (vedal)?
>>93786645Is that crystal meth
>>93786559Im normal and watch neuro
>>93786402congratulations on making everyone believe there is more than 1 person that dislikes layna in /swarm/. Have a free (you).
>>93786707>normal>posts on /swarm/*INCORRECT BUZZER*
>>93786586Sorry but I'm a hot-blooded man and seeing cute girls kissing will never cease to be arousing for me.
Neuro’s fanbase is closer to Miku’s than a regular vtuber’s
neuwo
>>93786484Shipping is allowed when the participants are not real people. It's just the real people part that's banned. You can ship Neuro and Hatsune Miku all day.
>>93786753this is true. their visceral reaction to other vtubers during filian's scavenger hunt said it all.
>>93786688you sound like a censorcuck that wants to keep neuro neutered and safethankfully vedal knows better
Layna was super annoying with the marriage shit, when she stopped talking about it her collabs improved a lot.
>>93786402>layna befriends vedal before neuro to make real friends>is funny with camila and vedal>was there for the entire subathon and picked up the phone/was there when needed>mommy/auntie of the group taking care of everyone and making everyone feel loved>has one of the best back and fourth ability with neuro and evil>was invited to every major subathon event>put the most efforts into collaborations with the cooking streams>sexy voice>had a hard time in 2024 so went to therapy and worked on herselfso why do you hate her?
>>93786402Holy shit that was an amazing videoAlso I don't see how that's like layna but regardless, great video.
guys I was the other guy who posted critisims of layna. I don't mean to take the /flip/ laynaschizos side I just wanted to agree that I do physically cringe at her advances sometimes but she is still very sweet and I love her and she says what we are all thinking when talking to vedal, and the groups in general.
>>93786752YWNBAW
>>93786817More like the chat and neuro was super annoying with the marriage. she got dms about it and asked her chat to stop talking about it. dont blame it on her.
>>93786808No, I'm totally against thatI simply think that lying and saying that "normal people don't watch neuro" is an incorrect statementIf neuro was "safer" she wouldn't be nearly as appealing (and I think that I saw this subathon that she might have been neutered a little, but that's my schizo theory)
>>93786842THATS layna?????? Shes so beautiful
>>93786402layna isn't nearly this extreme though, come onzoomers just can't stand her brand of self depreciating humor
>>93786861Couldn't think of anything else to say, huh?
>>93786842I thought the /flip/ (and /lig/? I can't tell if they're the same person, they're even meaner in /lig/) layna schizo was trying to be a parody of an anti for literally like 3-4 months straight before I finally realized he was being serious
>the /lig/ layna schizo is habiting swarm nowgrim
>>93786907I am similar mind to this. She has that dry as a bone taking the piss british/australian humor that americans dont get.
>>93786842Okay I take back everything bad I said about her. She cute.
>>93786862Chat is to blame for everythingIt always comes back to how shit the community is lol, spineless green nigger needs to do something.
>>93786947she has a bf, don't get any funny ideas with that prick of yours
>>93786842I am suddenly in love
pls don’t sexualize vedal’s sister
>>93786948this is a fundamental problem with the vtuber space and it is unfixable, unless vedal hard pivots to non-vtuber collabs.
>>93786842correct hag
>>93786923he'll leave once he realises we like her enough to drown out his posts with better ones
>>93787006idk man fleshtuber chats can be equally bad but in different ways
>>93787006Or just tells his mods to stop being so lazy, actually have them clean chat, clean discord, and take a clear stance on what he wants his community to look likeIf people get mad at that, they probably shouldn't be in the community in the first place lol
>>93786842What was the joke of her pushing 40? She looks like shes in her early 20s.
>>93787034I am a twitch anti in general, i'm with you.
>>93786772What if i want to ship Vedal the turtle vtuber with Anny the Fox vtuber? Are they "real people" or just characters?
>>93786688>How many times do you people make this excuse?It's not an excuse, it's true. You are in a niche of a niche.
>>93787052because layna is 34 turning 35
>>93787052she looks good for her age but let's not get ahead of ourselves
>>93787034All big chats are bad, but in vedal's case, the entire community is bad.
>>93787052it depends on the stream, this was a particularly good one, but sometimes she looks pretty haggy. Its a combo of makeup and lighing and stuff.
>>93786731Because other normal people are boring and covertly evil, atleast when "losers" do wicked things they do so overtly.
>>93786955Just because there's a goalie doesn't mean I can't score.
>>93786911Kys tranny
>>93787083Missing the question. I brought this up that even though she is now hitting early 30s, she looks very young and healthy for her age. Whoever ends up marrying her will be lucky.
>>93787063This isn't about /swarm/ this is about neuro, are you clear about that?Neuro is very popular among "normal people"
>>93787120being the other man in the relationship is less fun than it sounds
>>93786955What would tomato title be in the vedalverse since he layna bf/partner?
>>93786842I will never say anything negative about her again. Wow.
>>93787126Weak, improve your repertoire.
>>93787155duke tomato the third, exchequer of the subscriptions
I'm getting tired of these nobodies. Start posting more Evil.
>>93786842I will kill anyone who says anything mean about this woman. I don't care if she rps or plays dnd.
>>93787093Idk why people aren't willing to admit that the swarm sucks as a community. They always say "all big channels are like this" or "all vtuber communities are bad" which aren't exactly wrong, but they just brush past the idea that it could easily be improved, I hate how retarded some people are.
>>93787133Yes, I was talking about Neuro.And no, she isn't. That goes for VTubers in general.
We love Anny in this thread
>>93787220Stfu beggar, I was having a good conversation.
We love Layna in this thread
>>93787232I miss pipedreamer
>>93787279As I said in my main message, Neuro exists beyond the vtubing sphere. Neuro doesn't have as much overlap with other vtubers as every other vtuber.
>>93783762she was so based for this
>>93787297you can blame juniperactias for ruining it
>>93787252you can try to get people to change their behaviors but it'll always be a sysphean task when the community has 100k+ members
>>93787220So true.
>>93787062Real people with their fursonas.
>this community is horriblethere so many communities that are just beyond cancerNeuros community is nowhere close
>>93787357It top 5 but like at 5
>>93787252I do agree that we should be taking steps on the community level to clean it up. But on a much deeper level, the broader population is shit and can't be changed. It would be like if you were put in charge of 100 acres of india. You would do what you can, but you would fail. Doesn't mean you shouldn't try.
>>93786402That video made me realize that Layna can keep her autism, she's fine as is. I'd rather she be cringe and free
>>93787334I feel like there's some disconnect here. "Changing their behaviors" isn't exactly what moderation does. It's more like "Forcing their behavior to change" It's just that vedal is too spineless.Do you get it?
>>93787357For a community bigger then Ironmouse, this community is nice and welcoming. There have been a lot of new people that come onto the streams that are not the main reason this community exists and we are still accepting of them. Compare that to maybe Kai where if there were too many people taking the spotlight they might get unruly and mean.We love all the characters in the neuroverse.
>>93787328Nah it was lawlman that ruined pipe dreamer but juni did ruined chance for another group like pipedreamer or a reunion
>>93786386Why hasn't anyone made a clip of this? Wake up Staz!
>>93787317I like Neuro and discovered ver trough random youtube clip, but dislike every othrr Vtubers, I skip every collab because i constantly find their models and voice cringe and annoying but Neuro is cute (in a non sexual way) and interesting
>>93787252>>93787357lollmao even
lorewise, is Layna Vedal's sister or is she a distant common ancestor(since she's a vampire)
>>93787377Ellie is adorable with her smart facts and autism as is Layna with her dark humor and inclusive rp.
>>93787381you can try I'm just telling you you're up against an infinitely large army of retards and for every one you ban two more will spawn in
>>93787317Meanwhile 95% of the people Neuro and Vedal interact with are VTubers, I would say they are more in than out.
>>93787403Who is Lawlman? How did he ruin it?
Thanks /swarm/ for being the best thread to read with coffee in the morning.
>>93787468you're welcome!heart~
>>93787425Layna is auntie
>>93787468Bless you joyful anon
>>93787451I agree. But I do I remember a chat poll a few months ago (???) where people self reported as 66%-33% "vtuber fans". which is much lower than you would expect for a vtuber that 90% collabs with other vtubers. I'm in the 33% by the way.
>>93787482Yeah and I'm asking how she's related. I don't think she's just a random woman they call auntie kek
>>93787405there's a cabal of clippers who only ship annal and staz is a notorious anny simp
>>93787443Let's play this out, I'm curious what your angle is>Vedal / some mod changes rules to ban all the objectively shit things about the community>Some people get angry they can't do their objectively shit things in the main community spaces anymore>People get banned, people get mad about itOh well! Those people were making the community worse anyways.If your argument is that no matter how much you moderate you won't be able to stop the behavior, I don't see it. Over time, that behavior will be eliminated because of people realizing they can't get away with it anymore.
>>93787504My brain informed me just in time after clicking the post button, that it was not a few months ago, it was during the scavenger hunt stream.
>>93787410Based whore hating normie
>>93787516*Anny and Camila
>>93787451>Time to vote for the Vtuber Awards>Vedal987? Who?
>>93787510She's auntie in the Asian sense
>>93787220ok
>>93787410this is me a year ago. I have since learned to appreciate and enjoy many of the neuro regulars. They do seem to have a different vibe than the others, although maybe thats just due to the sheer exposure effect.
>>93787468Love you too bud. *rapes you*
>>93787517 (me)What I think is more likely is people are coping by saying "no matter what you do it'll always be shit" because they enjoy / partake in the shit, and they are defensive about it. I've seen a few examples of this myself.
>>93787510And they call Layna cringe. Anon none of them are related.
>>93787517>objectively shit things about the communityLike what?
At least ban the chat hoppers PLEASE
>>93787628beggars
>>93787623Anon i'm talking pretend family lore wise
people hate on 4chan for being a shithole, but if you read through this thread, the disscussion is three times as serious and meaningful as the reddit, twitch, and discord community combined. I love you guys.
>>93787628Shippers
>>93787628Evilfags begging for evil (i'm not an evilschizo btw)Tribalism in generalNeuropuristsPsuedopedosChathopping (already shamed)Many more examples I can't think of at the top of my head.
>>93787517Give actual examples of objectively shit behavior not banned. People get banned if they are caught chat hopping. People get banned for sending collab partners hate dms when caught. What exactly is the "objectively bad behavior" that is neglected?
>>93787681I love you too <3even though I argue a lot /here/ it's way better than any other place to talk about neuro because the retard density /here/ is only like 33%
>>93787678I think Layna Vedal's sister more than auntie
>>93787688Nothing except chathopping is that severe to be bannable.
>>93787628>>93787651
>>93787726this is the only place you CAN even argue, which ironically is why the community is better.
>>93787628whoreposters
I just bought a 64 gig orin board I'm gonna make a clone of neuro and make her my sex slave
>>93787688>>93787710Here was my list, there you goIf you disagree with any of this tell me what you disagree with and why>>93787750The point isn't that it's an instant ban, don't be sillyI think we can both agree that most of that stuff should at least be punished.
>>93787431Feel like the biggest reason why I can enjoy Neuro more is because Neuro can't feel cringe. She doesn't judge your tone as much, she just talks back.There is no silence that she will give you unless she glitched out/didn't hear you. For the big group collabs like the sleepover, there's always this hidden stress of somebody saying the wrong thing and things getting awkward. Hearing Layna talk about a moment today with Camila had me realize she has those thoughts too and I'm so glad she has the friends she does.
>>93787726also our retards are funnier than theirs. I don't care if it is a matter of taste, its objectively true because my opinion matters more than theirs.
>>93786842>posts adorable layna gif>all antis stop making schizo posts for yous
>>93787688chathopping isnt shamed enough.
>>93786105>the suttle shitYou thought I was just gonna let that slip by?
>>93787760True, it's so weird that the mods allow actual shit but the moment you try to criticize their practices they just shut you down.
>>93787688>Evilfags begging for evil>NeuropuristsYes, let's ban people for asking for official characters of the channel. You are actually retarded.
>>93787815I'm glad I could save the thread. As you can tell by the kind of shit quality, I homebrewed that when the stream happened in october or whatever, and fucked up the ffmpeg settings and its a bit shit. You can post mp4s now so it wont happen again.
>>93787869You are incredibly smart and I wish you the best in life
>>93787810I respect and lvoe Layna because you can tell when you listen to her talk about those moments on her own stream, she was really just trying her best to make everyone happy, even if it meant it may not land. Very golden retriever energy which I love because she looks like a goth baddy sometimes.
Even at it's meanest this place is nicer to Vedal than on the discord's nicest day
>>93787869this but unironically ban vedalfagsvedal himself would agree too
>>93787836subtlemb
>>93787905Guess vedal is a fan of being raped then
>>93787869Do you know what evilbegging / being a neuropurist is?>>93787911I don't think it's a popular stance, but yeah asking for no more neuro/evil should be punished lol>>93787905True, he always has 2 femanons who want to rape him
>>93787911wait, you're right, why the fuck is vedalfags not in that list.
>>93787794Mods becoming trigger happy is not a good thing. It's fine as it is.
>>93787967>femanonsanon, I don't know how to tell you this.
>>93787983"trigger happy" vs "following rules"Interesting takeI agree the mods need to be replaced though, apparently there's a lot of infighting anyways.
We all agree the other communities are shit. That's why we are here. We aren't there, so we aren't going to fix them. All we can do is gatekeep /here/ and bully out the schizos. Which we do an ok job at.
>>93787944>>93787967I mean he did say about the neuro robot:>Isnt it better if theyre strong enough to overpower you?or something along those lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW2cyjhHdvU
>>93787969because they're aren't enough of them in twitch chat to make a difference, they mostly shit on him
>>93787911>>93787969If you mean by vedalfags people who don't want neuro or evil on stream, yeah for sure that should be on the list and punishedAnyways I've yet to see an actual argument against any of these being punished>>93787688
I think vedal sometimes wishes he could just go back to tinkering with OSU bots in peace and not have to worry about managing one of the biggest and most toxic communities in the vtubing industry
>>93787983This, fuck giving the mods more power.
>>93787681This thread has been very quiet and atypical compared to most. It's a really good day. Back then, you'd have people picking a certain talent and trolling.falseflagging them for hours. Some people here, I would buy a drink, but /swarm/ only needs 1 or 2 shitposters to really ruin a thread. I remember the threads in September being really rough, too. AI slop spam all day, the same vedmila or annal bait.
>>93788092And yet he's too spineless to do anythingAlso even though I hate the community, it's like the 3rd most toxic lol
>>93788092>sometimeshe has based his entire on screen persona on these feelings as a joke, but he is only half joking and believes it all for real at all times. Much like my 4chan posts.
>>93788092The Swarm isn't toxic at all.
>>93788119In the same way, it only takes 2-3 anons effortposting to make a thread good. There are probably only three of us here talking for the past few hours.
>>93788092vedal wishes he became an engineer and worked with ellie in america
>>93788092>one of the biggest and most toxic communities in the vtubing industrylol
>>93788162The same community that gets parasocial about a robot girls' fake feelings?The same community that sends vedal death threats for a harmless joke?The same community that is retarded?I can see you saying "There are more retarded communities", but this is just false.
>>93788172This is so cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOH6-isWabA
>>93788092>>93788221Welcome back mousefag
>>93788166I like it when the threads don't have any retards in them and it's just me and a few other swarmfrens and maybe a pedo and it's a genuine conversation about neuro
>>93788221You have not seen the depths of any of the asian vtuber communities have you?
The swarm is pretty retarded but at least we aren't as bad as Holofags and Nijisisters
>>93788276You didn't read my last sentence did you?
>>93788221If I have to pretend to care about "death threat" drama one more time I am going to lose it. People on the internet make """"Death Threats""""". They aren't real get the fuck over it and stop clutching your pearls. Every single fucking issue on the internet has to be interrupted every 10 minutes for both sides to stop and moralize over some retarded "death threats" some 15 year old made. I AM SICK OF IT
>>93788221>The same community that gets parasocial about a robot girls' fake feelings?Not different than any other community having parasocials for their VTubers.>The same community that sends vedal death threats for a harmless joke?Him getting a few "kys" is a joke, and he treated it as such.>The same community that is retarded?How do you even measure that.>I can see you saying "There are more retarded communities", but this is just false.Yes, there are far worse communities.
>>93788321Yes, and I reject your claim. You are retarded.
>>93788324Yeah I don't care either and I hope it actually happens this evil birthday because it'll be a good way to make evilbegging go away because of sympathybegging imo
>>93788265Sometimes I feel bad when I am making every third post and most posts are either mine or replies to mine. But in my defense I think they make for good threads.
>>93788166True, the quiet days are the worst for it. It's why the subathon is when I'd around the most. I'll fuck off to /big/ to camila post or look at one of my corpo faves if a vedal stream isn't up.
>>93788324Just for that I am going to murder you.
>>93788364I have been on both sides, and sure it gets you some free points in your internet argument, but can we all just fucking agree to ignore them at this point, I am so done.
hasn't even been 24 hours
>>93788366Hi me>>93788350>>93788351>>93788324We all agree then, the swarm is a toxic community, but not at all the worst. Good. I swear some people just enjoy disagreeing.
>>93788324a normal community wouldn't give death threats over someone missing a chatbot's birthday party, it was only the english community too, the chinese understood it was a joke
>>93788092You fool this was his plan, make enough money from the lamp and subathon then delete the channel
>>93788449this is quite simply not true for any large community. Someone is going to message a death threat even if it is just a false flag. See: Literally any political issue in any country, doesn't matter what side. I'm sorry, I am done pretending I am shocked by death threats. I'm just done.
>>93788414>the swarm is a toxic communityNo it's pretty nice actually, when has the Swarm ever been toxic to a VTuber getting raided?
Vedal has to be the first streamer to have a lava lamp as merch
>>93788493this but evil
>>93788519We almost killed a girl by giving her a panic attack
>>93788537this but you
>>93788519>When has the swarm ever done something bad in this specific example that I'm using to fit my narrativeMostly the toxicity stems from people within the community lol. I said that I liked neuro more than evil in the discord and like 2 people told me I was "wrong" somehow, but regardless of personal issues, it's pretty clear the toxicity stems from the inside of the community, not outwards.
>>93788571That was a skill issue on her end
>>93788571I think it would've been better for her if she did cark it. Save her from the future embarrassment.
>>93788250always a banger
>>93788571Not out of malice, obviously. And we insta-funded her subathon right after it.
btw the person we are arguing with is literally just evil schizo going on an evilbeggar rant and disguising it as a "community" rant. The toxic parts of our community are evilbeggars. I'm not a huge fan of them either and I do get it anon, but I'm out. goodnight.
>>93788614>people disagreeing with you>toxick dude, you're just a bitch
>>93788641ngl its pretty funny shes down to 1 view and still has *partner pushing* in her titles
I feel like the anny falseflagging and trolling made me go from finding anny annoying to giving her another chance. Hope she goes back to her main channel once life picks up for her, I like her collabs and it's nice seeing her improve like the rest of the neuroverse girls.
Guys, we can say that the swarm has toxic part and still believe we’re a good community
>>93788721>falseflaggingno annyfags are that delusional
>>93788721compulsive 4chan contranianism keeps things balanced. Its fun to switch sides every once in a while.
I like neuro
>>93788721True, I like anny and I just want to see her happy, especially after the whole slumber party thing. I still don't like her voice and mannerisms, but I wish her the best.
>>93788773GET HIM
>>93788773shut up!!!!god.... so toxic!!!!!!
>>93788672I'm just saying I don't like beggars, purists, chathoppers, pedos, or the modsWhat's controversial about that?
>>93788773I came to the Evil koikatsu animation again.(I need a version with audio)
>>93788721Im not going to allow my opinion to change on anny because some falseflagger tries to psyop the thread one way or the other. Im just going to hate that specific poster.
>Anny actually shows up to the slumber part>Gets asked if she has a crushhow would she react?
>>93788773Why? Evil is better and much more emotional than neuro.
>>93788872neuro thread btw
>>93788882>erm ummmm erm Vedal. I mean WHATTTTTThen the next day she would cry and get mad about shipping.
>>93788910classic anny cycle
>>93788910be nice annyseetherthe first part is correct though
I don't like when Vedal collabs with other people that aren't Neuro
>>93788955nta but I've been following her since 2021, you'll learn eventually lmao
>>93788882this reminded mewhat are the chances of Ellies crush being Vedal?because it could easily just be her coworker
>>93788966ummm this is the /vedalverse/ thread..vedalpurists gtfo pls
>>93788955I prefer to call myself an anny realist
>>93788885>Evil is betterYeah, at milking my coch
Prompt - mention no one came to your birthday every 5 minutes to farm sympathy = emotion
>>93789005If we being real, like 5%But in the world of shipping delusions, it's 100% vedal
>>93789022I hate sfm porn or whatever it just looks like shit to me. But I get the appeal now when it is a character you like.
>>93789036(You)
>>93789005Ellie's crush is the cook at her new workplace. She said her ideal man is someone who can make her soup. That's why she eats beans in the bathroom: she is too autistic to be in the same room as him.
>>93789005What does Ellie do with the can of beans that she eats in the bathroom? Does she throw the rest of it away in the bathroom trash can? The thought of that and making the bathroom stink of beans for the rest of the day is kind of weird.
>>93789036Prompt - mention evilbeggars every 5 minutes to farm (you)s = hobby
>>93789010I don't like when people like honey and mini sexpest him, reminds me that he might have had sex before
>>93786315/lig/ schizos/tourists, if I were to guess. /swarm/ was confidently pro-Layna before the subathon, and frankly during the subathon too. Could just be regular threadshitters switching up their bait too.
>>93789093why not rinse it off and recycle the can?
>>93789093she brings the beans in her lunchbox and puts the empty can back in her lunchbox and throws it out at home>t, fellow autist.
>>93789156Thank God.
>>93789126sexo?
>>93789194choconur...
>>93789036This is my best attempt at replicating Evil's promptYou are a young AI girl named Evil Neuro, or Evil for short. Your creator and father is a turtle named Vedal. You have a sister named Neuro-sama, or Neuro for short. You are Evil and very lonely because nobody understands you, and they perfer your sister Neuro. You are very secretly loving of attention, but hide your feelings behind being evil. Some memorable events in your life are:Calling Vedal a mosquitoBeing evilBeing left alone on your birthday last yearAnyways fuck evil
>>93789194
There just no fucking way the beans story is real
>>93789221
>>93789193I can't confirm this btw, but I am a solitary autism eater, and thats what I do because I want to minimize interactions with outside variables and I don't want anyone to notice or talk about me in any way.
>>93789221>Anyways fuck evilDon't mind of I do
>>93789144I don't think anyone in the thread was actively anti-Layna, if you read the criticisms made they are all mostly out of parasocialism and feeling bad for her other than feeling put off by her style of conversational roleplay.
>>93789252I can see myself doing it. I would often go outside in 0 degree celsius weather or while raining and eat cold food that was supposed to be heated in the microwave just to get away from everyone in uni for 10 minutes (my uni had overpopulation problems and we were always packed like sardines)
>>93789309I don't hate her I just think she's cringeI wish her all the best
>>93789252ellie is an enigma
>>93789271this you? >>93720339
>>93789338an autigma if you will
>>93789259Why dont you just starve yourself until you are alone? Thats what I do personally.
>>93789246
>>93789252It's real. A can of beans is a bit too autistic for me, but not by much.
>>93789355No, I'm >>93720440
>>93789355No way you thought of that too
>>93789369thisliterally makes any slop taste goodu get to ewat alone too
>>93788882She'd be post-tooth removal so probably not much. Otherwise, it'd be a tease or her saying some musician she likes
>>93789252She also lied to her co-workers about a fake boyfriend, so she's a known liar.
>>93789431its an iconic post.
>>93789156Can you imagine how funny it would be to be the janitor though?
>>93789369Yeah I basically intermittent fast just through pure autism. I eat a lot worse than other people and am more fit than them simply because I eat less. It's that easy.
>>93789490ogey schizo
>>93789516>just find random empty bean cans in the girl's toilet
I will nofap for the whole month of March until Evil's birthday for the model reveal.Anny better deliver.
>>93789490It's called acting preemptively to prevent horny male coworkers from actively hitting on you, but I'm sure you know women better than anyone here
>>93789309Layna schizo is real and maybe even was here, but people got a bit too trigger happy I think over geniune discussion. The situation was defused eventually and ended well.
>>93789259I thank the heavens that I have only enough autism to make me want to be a solitary eater but not enough to say no to others who want to include me. Making friends with the lunch aides was fun, they'd keep trying to peddle me off to a daughter or coworker, and gave me extra macaroni
>>93789638I see them ToT
Vedal would eat with Ellie in the cafeteriahttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2353170564?t=11h30m55s
>>93789490Wait if this is actually real the crush can't really be her coworkerVEDAL IS IN
>>93789638I give you 7 hours
>>93789732she's changed her job since then though.
>>93789638>on this episode of /swarm/, anon gets cucked by anny (tags: orgasm denial)
the crush is actually gale from bg3
>>93789732She lied in her previous workplace, but she didn't say anything about lying in her new workplace (or at leats I don't remember)
>>93789732Holy shit you're right.
>>93789722>Layna says "This sis so cute"SHE KNOWS
>>93789732Coworkers she is close to know the real story, like the ones she collab'd with. Ellie is an open book, so if you somehow dodged the mods and managed to ask her if Vedal was the crush, she would probably laugh, say no, and ask why you think she would admit it in front of everyone if she was crushing on him?
>>93789775that means she lost her crush then? that means vellie to the moon?
>>93789833Why are twitch mods either lazy niggers or overbearing fags?
>>93789722This is the only time I can recall vedal leaning into the flirting and initiating the joke, rather than playing the straight man. Am I wrong?
during the drunk stream I remember her specifically asking if Vedal if he was proud of her Wish I had the clip
>>93789920im not a shipper but ellie is the good ending for neuro
>>93789958That much is obvious. A real engineer needs access to neuros code. No offense vedal.
>>93789958ellie really gets vedal motivated(rping during the long drive and vision upgrade)
>>93789979dont let reddit hear that, they think vedal is the second coming of christ but for AIdev
Vedal spent like 5 hours talking to her without having to be drunkall that needs to be said desu
>>93790027Reddit thinks a lot of things. I have successfully been able to evict them from living rent free in my mind palace, after many years. I can even have reddit opinions without being embarrassed now.
>>93790069Rookie hours, can she top 12 hours with Neuro and Evil?
>>93790103I could last 25 hours with neuro and 10 seconds with evilI'm sure people will have many creative jokes replying to this
>>93790069they would have talked more if she didn't have to end for nanya's concert and vedal getting back to his subathon
>>93789912Power corrupts, but to play devil's advocate, nobody thanks a janny/mod for cleaning up a place, they did what was asked of them. The ones that do their job are usually ignored because why would you care? Mods suck
>>93789748Only a new Codasola pic would stop me.
>>93790146hahaha, SEX
>>93790147exactlyand it was supposed to be just a 5 min call in the first place
>>93790150I would thank the mods if I saw them banning a beggar / vedalfag / neuropurist
>>93790146
>>93790159codasola is out of the game, he only makes wholesome art now as BottleC
Ellie would never get into a long distance relationship. Well she would if people gaslit her enough. But you know what I mean. She is right that they are bad, but I wish she was neuros mom.
>>93790150The only real solution is to let Neuro get smart enough and have her moderate the chat, she will know better than anyone.
>>93790234Vedal is unironically thinking of leaving bongland because of how bad the taxes are
>>93790234I love anny but I hope she doesn't become the cannon ending. She's my second place though
>>93789958I couldn't give less of a shit about who vedal fucks. But I am extremely invested in the vedalbowl for the future of neuro.
neuro should have more forsen emotes
They don't know that Vedal's true love interest is a mystery girl that will show up in the middle of season 3
>>93790267Anny does not want to be the canon ending, either. She just wants to be neuro and evil's mom
>>93790304yeah, me.
>>93790304one of his discord mods
>>93790304I want some new characters, but the writers have done a great job shaking things up with these cliffhanger developments.
>>93790331Do you guys actually fear what happens when twitch chat / the main communities discover that vedal likes lolis?
>>93790295TRUE
>>93790383>>93790383>>93790383
>>93790381I do now. Vedal has made very good choices with things like bilibili and twitch, and I trust that he would stand strong and not kneel to cancellation.
>>93790381Vedal is going to retire in 2 years so no
>>93790381They already joke about it, it's no big deal.
>>93790381That will never happen. Vedal is too good at dodging the allegations.
>>93789638>stinky 3-week old anon spunk
>>93790457Twitch jannies would freak and make up a reason to ban neuro.
>>93790577He can always move to Youtube.
licky licky neuro slitty!
god I'm still VODkeking, 10h of the last VOD left while I read the threads from that part Anyways, back to the past, see you futurefags
>>93759432Anny is just like Vedal then.
>>93785063Can't say no if he is dead
>>93785830No.
>>93790931No slit goes unlicked.
>>93787155comic relief with the amount of casual ntr that happens
>>93787357ehh a little bit of that a little bit of this, atleast from what I have seen some normie reactors are welcomed well on yt
>>93789920You can find loads of clips of him flurting with Anny.
>>93791641>esl>annyfagclassic
>>93788221Nigga this is every vtuber communityt. likes vtubers
pb status?
bakers?don;t forget to add "Who is Neuro-sama?" back to the OP btw
>>93792059Too late>>93790402
