I'm sure even someone with your IQ can figure this one out, OP

>>93794769
>Even a fucking ai chatbot mogs her nowadays. She's washed up

>>93794769
>I thought she was supposed to be the top bitch of Twitch
nobody says this except for these shitty bait thread

CANNOOOOOOR
YOU HAVE TO BOOST ME AGAIN
MAKE ANOTHER VIDEO
CUNNNNNOOOOORRRR

>>93795298
you're saying ironmouse wasn't the top bitch of Twitch?

>>93795345
yes

>>93794769
kek the image they used, they know her ego is hurt

>toppled
>raped and killed
>eaten

Maybe another sleepathon will fix that?

>>93794769
So what you're saying is - yet another streamer youtube paid millions to has abandoned the platform. Interesting. This seems to be happening a lot lately.

>>93795411
she might be afraid to do another one, kai set the record too high, even Gunrun with all the anonymous donations wouldn't be able to match it, doubt she can beat that russian guy either, she was already pushing it as it is. And Neuro mogged her numberswise so she can't hide being a poor vtuber anymore, wouldn't even be close to the hype train record either. If she does another one, it would be a step backwards.

>>93794895
Do they count neuro as female

>>93795697
No. They did for like a week but the channel's vedal987.
>>93795563
She leaves over a year between each subathon and when she does one she'll raise a fuckton of money for charity again. It's not all about records.

>>93795824
>It's not all about records
Yeah ok, all the streamers that do stuff for charity say that shit. Do you also believe MrBeast does all that shit just for charity, and not for numbers?

>>93795697
>>93795824
>They did for like a week
Another mousekek lie, Neuro was couted as female all the time until like two weeks ago cause Assmon complained about it cause she was mogging his clique friends like emiru and mouse.

>>93795880
I wouldn't know, I don't watch MrBeast. Kinda shocked anyone here does. Get better hobbies bro.

>>93795824
The reason why she raised so much last year is because she was explicitly going after the record, which was feasible to her cause she had already gotten close to it, but now it's set so high she won't be able to do more that the last one, as that was one big motivator. If she truly cares, she'll do it even if it means getting less that before. Remains to be seen and subathons don't necessarily have to be a yearly thing. Kai said he wasn't gonna do another one unless the record was broken, and Vedal said he might not do another one this year either.

>>93794769
what race is that on the left

>>93794769
What is that bitch doing??? Does she not know that iron lungs has been bedridden again for the 100th time or that she needs to feed her child or to sleep to her botted subathons??? She's taking food and money out of her bank account which need more millions

>>93795991
You don't have to watch him to know all the drama surrounding him, literally everyone covered all the shit he did with logan paul and KSI and that lunchly scam. But it is funny you watch IronMouse of all things and think you are an arbiter of taste lel

>>93795911
Weird, I'd never seen vedal on any of the lists before. Did they really only make it on because of a "sleepathon"?

>>93796087
I don't watch any of those people.

>>93796101
They did it last year too. Generally speaking, those rankings are based on watch hours, Mouse is always on them because she streams long hours, like plus 10 and so on. Whereas outside of Subathon Vedal streams about 2 to 3 hours mostly 4 days a week.

>>93796129
Sure thing ironkek you're just randomly defending mousey cause why not right?

>>93794769
Deserved. I've always prayed for her downfall but it seems my prayers have been answered sooner than anticipated

>>93796044
>which was feasible to her cause she had already gotten close to it
this is not true

Sleepmouse is washed

>>93796165
Defending what? I just said she leaves over a year between them because historically that is a fact, I didn't watch a single minute of the last one. Anyway, why are you obsessed with this long list of male fleshtubers?

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>>93794769
You guys are aware that she's friends with Mouse and Mouse appeared on her podcast just 4 days ago right? Valkyrae streaming on Twitch is only a good thing for Mouse since she can get raids from her now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQazI6qMMtg

Why does /#/ seethe so much about this chuuba again?

>>93796198
Her 2023 subathon had over 200k subs, the record was ludwig's at 280k, she would only need to increase it by 80k or so more, before that her first subathon was set at 170k, she made almost 40k more that last time. It is feasible especially after a year of growth, doing in in a month with 25% off for subs, and going for the record as a goal.

>>93796287
Popular and no blue dorito. It's the same reason they turned on Dooby and now Nimi after they left.

>>93796287
It's not just /#/ these days, /swarm/ hates her too (well, they hate everyone including those Vedal regularly collabs with but they particularly hate her). Basically in both cases it's just numberfaggotry.

>>93796244
Why are you so obsessed with defending her if you dont care at all? You're just glazing her as this noble charity person cause???

>>93796351
It's called arrogance anon, nobody likes an arrogant bitch that think she's too good for others, especially when she pretends to be so nice and caring otherwise, but hogs everything to herself and rarely shares with her own friends and coworkers. Why did you think Dexerto used that sad face as the thumpnail? Anyone who reads between the lines knows Mouse has an ego and people doing better that her gets to her. If Mouse didn't care so much about her image while being a hypocrite, she wouldn't get as much shit. For example, Vei doesn't pretend to be this vtubing messiah super nice person, she's just out for herself and her friends, and that's why she doesn't get as much shit as Mouse does.

>>93796287
I think a major cause of these threads is that fans of IM simply can't avoid biting the bait. I'd hazard a guess that a lot of them are made by people who don't even have a strong opinion on her, but like riling up her fans. /#/ does hate her but if her fans didn't keep giving (You)s there probably wouldn't be so many catalog threads.

>>93796287
/#/ hates her because someone spent 2 years using her to spam and shitpost in their thread

/hlgg/ hates her because of what her friend said about Hololive

/NijiEN/ hates her for cutting off their company after the Selen drama

/haha/ hate her for being a fence-sitter and completely ignoring Doki too

/pcg/ hates her because she acts like Pippa does not exist despite Pippa liking Ironmouse

big chunk of /lig/ hates her for various intra-Twitch drama and controversies as well as being shitty to Silverware/Vei/Nyanners

/swarm/ hates her as competition

/flip/ hates her for treating Filian as persona non grata over a 2 year old George Floyd joke

/vshojo+/ dislike her enough because of her sperg shitard fans that they kicked her out to her own solo thread

all the various aspiring and small indie vtuber threads dislike her for talking a big game and then just nepohiring all her buddies instead of helping the community

She has a big line of enemies.

>>93796598
/mouse/ hates her because she collabs with connor all the time, doesn't support the other members, enables yes men like Candii
/vsj+/ also hates her because she ignores the other members to leech of bigger flesh streamers, also her fans are insufferable and bite every bait imaginable

>>93796481
I was just talking about what I've observed, and in almost all cases (from both /#/ and /swarm/, and from mouse fans defending her) it just seems to be filled with retarded numberfaggotry with autistic graphs all over the place - plus random doxxing. It does get annoying that she's constantly paraded as THE vtuber by fleshies but I've always assumed that's because she's the token chuuba they bring out to pretend they care about vtubing due to her frequent fleshy collabs, rather than her attempting to present herself as the queen of vtubing. Having said that maybe I'm wrong and she is arrogant about her position - but like I say in these catalog threads all I ever see is numberfaggotry.

>>93796481
>but hogs everything to herself and rarely shares with her own friends
what exactly is she hogging?

>>93796481
>>93796598
Pretty much this. IM made it to the top, and that put a lot of eyeballs on her, and when she was more or less crowned the queen of vtubers on twitch, she really pushed, or had it pushed on her, this idea of like a defender of the little guy, pro talent freedom, pro indie, anti-black companies, charity, etc. And she cannot live up to that image, not her fault but ultimately, she put herself there.

>IM

>>93796756
See
>>93796678
She has a huge platform but never seems to use it to open up the same opportunities for the rest of her vshojo colleagues. She barely even raids them. She focuses more on bigger fleshies that vshojo.

>>93796598
>/pcg/ hates her because she acts like Pippa does not exist despite Pippa liking Ironmouse
That's based though.

>>93796598
>/haha/ hate her
No, there's been discussions about whether she's avoiding Doki because she seemingly dropped out of two collabs, but they were collabs organised by Ellum and he frequently claims people are collabing when they've not even confirmed yet - as dragoons have found out a few times when he's claimed Doki is going to be on and she doesn't show up. During the Streamer Awards there were a few dragoons who said they were voting for mouse in the other categories where she wasn't up against Doki. There's a mouse fan from /vsj+/ who occasionally comes over to /HAHA/ and there's no bad blood.

>>93796756
All the choccy milk

>>93796678
What was the deal with Candii anyway? Why did she have her own so much, I rarely see her feature orbiters as other vtubers do and even then it's not like people like Arielle or Froggy just agree with everything their friends say.

>>93795365
who was?

>>93794769
Has ironmoose considered trying to be entertaining?

>>93796821
even worse if you know that at the start, the other memebers - or what would become her fellow members - helped her out to grow and now that she is the largest one, she doesn't give a single fuck about all of them. she just wants more, more records, more awards and to achieve this she leeches of the twitch royalty normie clique. ungrateful till the end

>>93796880
Watch her dodge Doki this entire year too. She is a fence-sitter, doesn't wanna upset either her and the pro-doki ex nijis nor nijis themselves. And even certain ex-nijis that have shit on niji don't necessarily seem to be pro-doki either. Mouse does not like taking sides unless it's something that is widely seem as good.

>>93796598
Most people either like her or don't care. It's pretty much just you that has an unhealthy fixation on her. The majority of posters don't actually waste their time hating anyone. Consider therapy.

>>93796963
pathetic collab beggar

For all those complaining that Ironmouse doesn't hang out with your favorite vtuber: she doesn't even care about the ones in her org, she probably doesn't hate doki or pippa ok maybe pippa. Ironmouse just doesn't give a shit about vtubers altogether, especially the ones that are smaller than her

>>93796904
They're friends.

>>93797025
>Most people either like her or don't care
You could also say most people dislike her or don't care, but you know how you feel about that, Mousebro.

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>>93796598
Unless I fucking missed something when has mouse been shitty to Nyan?

>>93797061
Then why does she do all those streams where she shills 2views?

>>93797061
Then why is she a vtuber? And especially, why does she always say that she wants to bring more attention to vtubers amongst normies? How exactly is she doing that?

>>93797089
that dude got all his information from the catalog

>>93797089
They made peace but you know damn well they had drama. And clearly only Nyanners forgave her cause to this day Silver still seethes and Vei acts like she doesn't exist.

>>93797074
That's also true and I'm fine with it.

>>93796598
This is mostly true except for
>haha/ hate her for being a fence-sitter and completely ignoring Doki too
Not true.
>/pcg/ hates her because she acts like Pippa does not exist despite Pippa liking Ironmouse
based
>big chunk of /lig/ hates her for various intra-Twitch drama and controversies as well as being shitty to Silverware/Vei/Nyanners
Vei and Nyanneer have no bad blood with anyone in vshojo. Nyanners has collabed with mouse a couple of times since leaving, and Vei recently said she respects everyone still in the company and that she left because of a contract issue.
>/vshojo+/ dislike her enough because of her sperg shitard fans that they kicked her out to her own solo thread
True, but most are indifferent towards her. Her fans, however...

>>93797111
publicity

>>93794769
Why did they use that image?

>>93796963
I don't think dragoons particularly care one way or the other, I certainly don't. If a collab happens it happens, if not then fine. The only issue was, as I said, her seemingly dropping out of two collabs at the last minute but as I say it's now become clear that Ellum never actually confirms who's going to be on before claiming they are.
>>93797052
This is not a collab beggar, it's someone trying to find anything they can to shit on her for. If she had collabed with Doki earlier last year this same person would have attacked her for using the drama surrounding Doki.

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>>93797089
Literally never. Pink love.

>>93797175
engagement farming, you think mousefags are like that just here? check out the quote retweets, it's all mousefags mad and saying "why did you use that picture??? why pit them agaisnt eachother??" cause it triggers you to be on the defence and engage, that's why.

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>>93797175
Because it's funny

>>93797111
because she has a four or five actual friends with whom she likes to play games and one of those is a 3view vtuber. all other vtubers and those in vshojo are just coworkers at best. nyanners and mouse pretended to be best friends for years and look where they are now. all show

>>93796963
mouse works and is friends with three ex-nijis who have all spoken poorly about their former company and for two of them she was a significant factor of them leaving in the first place. please explain why you believe that she gives a fuck about nijisanji's reputation enough that she would dodge doki
for an actual explanation of why they don't collab: their schedules don't overlap,other than marvel rivals they practically never play the same games, they have mutual friends but those mutual friends aren't close friends, and they don't have much in common. mouse doesn't usually collab outside of her friends or vshojo

>>93797155
What publicity? Some rando with less than 1k followers thanking her isn't gonna get much publicity.

>>93797271
>mouse doesn't usually collab outside of her friends or vshojo
And not much with vshojo either.

>>93796963
NTA, and while I strongly believe that she's actively avoiding Doki in a clear and deliberate manner, saying that /HAHA/ as a whole hates or is hostile mouse is far from the truth. That thread is hardly hostile to anyone almost to a fault, outside of very few people.

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>>93797239
It's full of people like this. No this person is not doing a meme either they're serious.

>>93797255
Frankly, I dont know how they all bought into it. At least with other vtubers, you can see some common personalities, almost all vtubers are gamer weebs that worship japan and are usually 20 something, whereas Mouse, without getting into actual dox here, is someone that wanted to be a proper opera singer and is way older and didn't grow up with these interests. Most of the anime and gaming stuff she had to learn as streaming became her job.

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>>93797371
Which people would those be?

>>93797385
She's built an image of a savior and at the same time someone that needs to be saved, it's why her fans are so defensive. They'll think she'll die or something if people are mean to her on the internet and they don't stop the meanies.

>>93797371
>avoiding Doki
Did the not interact a bit during the Rust Kingdoms thing?

>>93797386
mouse has watched a shitload of anime

>>93797111
2views circus is not a shill

>>93797419
Nta but her, Vox, Ike, Enna, and Millie. A funny (also sad) fact is that during the last Sajam Slam after Doki's team had been knocked out /HAHA/ was cheering on Vivi's team while being raided by sisters and /NijiEN/ was ignoring Vivi's matches to instead celebrate the fact the "fat chink bitch" had lost.

>>93797482
She has, now at least. But she didn't grow up the same way younger vtubers did, with toonami and stuff like that, my guess is if she saw anime growing up it was like the kind of stuff your mom grew up with, like Candy Candy.

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>>93797482
She's actually named after a Sailor Moon villain, "Sailor Iron Mouse"

>>93794769
I hope that mouse face becomes as popular as >>93797240

>>93797386
nyan is old too. they were allegedly best buddies and now they don't even talk to each other

>>93797292
that's not,,, I'm not going to spoonfeed you the most basic thing about how publicity works.

>>93797634
Mouse has at least 10 years on Nyanners if we get into that sort of a thing. And you know why. 10 years is a big difference on culture and life experiences.

>>93794769
Is it good if all i know about her is that she does charity? I mean don't get me wrong, charity is a good thing but do you think charity is a special skill?

>>93797705
That's cause that is exactly what she wants to be know for.

>>93797599
She's a huge fan of Kamen Rider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=EgaBQbPpG1k

>>93794769
>I thought
I doubt that.

>>93797740
Like a beggar...? Or more than that

>>93797667
if Mouse has 10 years on Nyanners she's gonna croak of old age before that immune disease gets her.

>>93797705
>do you think charity is a special skill?
No.

>>93794769
Stop huffing paint ESL retard, ironlung isn’t even top 50 most of the time. 10-20k subs is nothing, top dogs are 40-90k+ monthly subs consistently

>>93794769
>I thought

>>93798328
She toppled her on watch hours, which is what she was supposed to on top of amongst female streamers

>>93795345
how can she be top bitch when she is crippled? she'll always be the bottom bitch duh

>>93796963
I would say WrestleTuber was a reality check for who actively wants to "engage" with Doki verses who "support" her via twitter ass pats. Zen was the ONLY Vshojo member to sign up and be involved and even than, didn't agree to be in the brackets. Most of the "big" indies she got to agree, didn't want to be in the tournament like ShyLily and Flare. CyYu bailed on commentary for night one. Vedal didn't even know when it was happening. Merryweather made his entry a day before broadcast. Hell the only Phase girl she got was fucking Saya! Couldn't even get a Tenma, Lia or Lumi. NIGGER WHO IS SAYA?! Instead it was Doki, some Idol girls and a bunch of Homostar faggots. Geega even said she wanted to run her own wrestling event for Vshojo weeks later.

So yeah, I do think Ironmouse and many others are avoiding Dokibird.

>>93800264
>Zen was the ONLY Vshojo member to sign up
Matara
>Ironmouse and many others are avoiding Dokibird. >>93797468

>>93800264
Tbf for Vedal he is notoriously shit with dms, especially for collabs. The rrat from back then is filian roped him into it and he was whatever about it, it did spawn the court stream which was quite good content.

>>93800157
>bottom bitch
That means main girl duh
Do you even pimp??

>>93800431
>Matara
Was added last second via request of Mint, wasn't intended for the event
>>93800442
British Autists aplenty in the streaming space

>>93800264
mouse has said many times including recently that she hates and avoids competition with some small exceptions, even mario party and mario kart she needs to be heavily convinced and she would only play with good friends. even if she's not the one playing the game she would generally not do something like wrestletuber, doki has nothing to do with it

>>93796756
Kai's cock
Bitch is thirsty for his type

I like how this thread was originally a Mouse bait thread, then when it was claimed /HAHA/ hates her and a few dragoons came in and said they didn't it's now pivoted to a mixture of trying to prove Mouse hates Doki and that most big indies don't like Doki.

>>93800442
And he also directly mocked that Niji CEO guy with a parody video. Though I don't take that as direct support for Doki and more just finding the whole thing funny.

>>93800763
Connor's years of grooming wasted

>>93800781
it's so stupid when it's obvious why a lot of big indies don't talk to her- when she first got out they didn't want to look opportunistic, like they were trying to attach themselves to somebody who at the time (and has continued to have) tons of positive attention because it's leech behaviour. the issue is that now we're almost a year on and maybe they feel too awkward to approach because it's been too long... morons need to just talk to each other

>>93800264
>Geega
has collabed with doki like 3 or 4 times

>>93800905
Doki is mostly serious about her e-sports stuff while other vtubers are just casuals about it, especially on Twitch. If you see someone like Bao or Numi play it, its cause they just want to try it out with friends or to get a boost since it's got a lot of watchers that will watch whoever's at the top of the category even if they aren't good at it. Plus even outside the e-sports she seems to always want things planned and organized, whereas most twitch vtubers prefer to do again, casual collabs without a lot of effort.

>>93801173
>she seems to always want things planned and organized, whereas most twitch vtubers prefer to do again, casual collabs
I remember the collab between Doki, Dooby, Bao, and Filian. They talked about the fact Doki and Dooby were the ones ready exactly on time. The experience of JP corpo rigour runs deep even when they've moved on.

>>93796101
they always have, its been a meme for Neuro's chat for like a year. every time vedal does something they start spamming #1 FEMALE STREAMER BTW to piss him off, since the channel has held that title a few times

>>93794769
when's the next griftathon? did kai cenat already forget about her?

>>93795298
Bingo

>>93794804
he wont

>>93796598
Sounds like it's all completely deserved hate then

>>93807480
extremely organic bump, you've fooled everybody that this thread is naturally staying up because it's so popular and you did such a great job

why are neuro troons so obsessed with mouse? what's the deal here? is it really because she doesn't want to collab with a chatbot? what's got these male vtuber fans so uppity?

>>93796598
Based for acting like Pippa doesn't exist

>>93797089
It never happened of course, she even credited her for the design of the worm plush.

>>93807558
He's going to do this for days.

>>93807558
Thanks

>>93797371
/HAHA/ is just porn and seethe. When Doki isn't streaming, they're seething about Niji and anyone who avoids her

>>93797089
Stop talking about flesh streamers

>>93807775
And why is that a problem?

>>93796598
You forgot the Vshoujo mask off moment where they tried to ruin Nux's life

>>93795526
youtube is shit if you arent holo and the sky is blue more news at nine

>>93808189
based
fuck nux

>>93808187
It's a sign of a shit general when anything that isn't live posting is just seethe

>>93808295
Nyanners lost btw

>>93807775
>>93808509
You can look through the archives and see that this isn't true. Are you the newfag from /swarm/ who doesn't realise that the archives exist or are you just hoping most people in this thread are newfags? There's been nearly a year at this point where other communities have interacted with /HAHA/ and have dropped in and posted in /HAHA/ - a few anons from /lig/, /vsj+/ anons, /pcg/ and other Phase anons, at least one deadbeat, at least one hooman, at least two ruffians, the /NijiEN/ divegrass manager - all have been fine in /HAHA/.

>>93794769
>I thought she was supposed to be the top bitch of Twitch, what's going?
Well as you can see with the image you posted, that recently changed

Also Mouse is friends with Valkyrae and was just a guest on her podcast so it's entirely pointless to pit them against each other.

>>93796598
Ironmouse is just a bad person who's not even sick.

>>93796075
She's German and Filipina.

>>93808509
That doesn't answer my question
If I go into /vsj+/ I'll see you hating on a bunch of vtubers and seething daily. Does that mean you are just as bad?

>>93809237
They're seething right now about the upcoming marvel Rivals tournament

>>93808189
That was their best moment. Fuck that faggot.

>>93809495
Hate them both but Vshoujo still managed to make themselves all look like petty , seething bitches

>>93809486
There's a discussion going on about xQc hiring pro players to steamroll content creator teams and then getting so assbasted that he's seething about the fact Doki has pro players because she's friends with them that he's tried to get her team DQ'd, yes.

>>93796481
>arrogant bitch that think she's too good for others
>hogs everything to herself and rarely shares with her own friends and coworkers
>Mouse has an ego and people doing better that her gets to her
>pretend to be this vtubing messiah super nice person
So like do you have anything to back up this schizobabble
Anything at all

>>93809462
>If I go into /vsj+/ I'll see you hating on a bunch of vtubers and seething daily
Go ahead, check it right now and report back

Doki is a vshojo friend and her general here is probably the best general on this board. Leave her out of this bait thread.

>>93807775
Nice headcanon sis, now seethe for another year.

>>93810870
This is far from the truth. Matara has pretty much avoided her along with most of vshojo. Zen is pretty much the only person who gives her any time of day.
Matara will show up if mint begs her to but otherwise no.
Dragoons are schizos on the best of days who will spend all day doxing their oshi if she streams stuff they don't like or does anything that they don't like. They will run checks to see who she's playing with offline and then get pissed because she's playing offline with them. As someone who absolutely used to love Doki/Selen her fanbase is fucking trash

>>93812127
Yeah, keep trying anon - maybe one day someone will believe you. Again, there have been enough interactions between dragoons and other fanbases last year that most know this to be untrue - but maybe you'll convince a few isolated groups until they interact with them too.

Sorry that your attempt to portray /HAHA/ as bring against Mouse didn't work (I know that was your real purpose).

>>93812127
You already tried this angle in September, and it was a failure. Don't think that people forget. Just take the fucking L and go on.

QUICK IRONMOUSE TIME TO BRING UP A NEW ILLNESS

>>93809772
>Hiring
Kekw. Not surprised that Doki is already getting hate from more popular and skilled streamers for always getting boosted.

Casual tournaments should be casual. If Dokifat can have a team of pros, so can xQc. It's only fair

>>93812588
>>93813220
Man I'm not even aware of what the fuck you're talking about but dragoons literally are composed of seethe. They always have been. It's hard to even have a conversation in /HAHA/ because the general is composed of dragoons whining about her, crying over people she hangs out with offline and biting obvious bait.
Dragoons have been one of the worst fanbases I've ever encountered because when they're not complaining about their oshi they're doxing her and tracking her offline.
Let's also take a look at how many people in vshojo interact with her
>Matara
Only if mint is there and acts uncomfortable around doki
>Kuro
No
>Melody
No
>Henya
No
>Kson
No
>Mouse
No
>Froot
Once over 10 months ago
>Zen
Yes occasionally
>Haruka
No
>Geega
No

>>93812588
>>93813220

Glad the newfags on the board are catching on that Fagoons are the worst fanbase. These lying faggots are insufferable

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>>93813277
already on it

>Precisely one minute apart
LMAO

>>93812127
Are you the wisp (more likely a /lazu+/fag) who claims to be a former dragoon that ignores that wisps actually stalked her to the point she actually had to make a post on her RM account asking them not to? Doki never had to do that.

>>93813310
She's trying to start shit with juicers??? The fagoons will get out cancer'd in a heartbeat

>>93813576
He most definitely is.

>>93813576
No but also Doki doesn't have to say shit because Doki doesn't leave her house. She just plays offline with people who dragoons don't like and plays games offline that dragoons don't like, they whine about it and even go as far as to talk about how they maybe should start sending her letters begging her to change her behavior.

>>93813348
Again, a basic search of the archives proves this to be untrue. Sorry little bitch boy, but you're not going to turn /vsj+/ and /haha/ against each other no matter how much you seethe.

>>93813598
That's true, as bad as dragoons are they're not nearly as bad as them

>>93813412
ESL..

>>93813576
Are fagoons really trying to convince people if Doki had a personal alt account that they wouldn't stalk it? When they stalked her Apex history?

>>93794769
a win for Valkyrae is a win for Ironmouse

>>93813775
why is he even trying? bizarre behaviour. the only generals /vsj+/ openly doesn't like is /swarm/ and /#/ and it's because people from those are the ones making the fucking bait threads. the talents/vtubers are all fine too, it's just those fans that are the problem

>>93813780
I personally hope xQc and his band of merry retards tear dragoons a new asshole

>>93813348
>>93813598
>>93813721
>>93813871
>mouse antis make a bait thread
>try to claim /haha/ dislikes her
>dragoons say they don't
>thread becomes a Doki/dragoon anti thread
lol

>>93814000
I don't mind /swarm/. They too have to deal with falseflagging numbertards.

>>93813981
unironically 100% correct, they both have a massive amount of respect for each other. there's always genuine excitement from rae when mouse joins the lobby and mouse cheers for and supports rae's projects and perks up when her name is brought up
no jealousy, only joy that they're both doing well

>>93814148
No one cares about fagoons running optics. The wider community knows they're cancer and that they will pretend like they're not the issue

>>93814000
>why is he even trying?
I mean, image being hoplessly mad for a whole year, if not more. Imagine trying desperately in every possible way to sway public perception, waiting for a pendulum swing that just doesn't come. In the end all that remains is this kind of powerless desperation and boy, I couldn't ask for more. Seeing these monkeys screeching in the void will never be not funny.

>>93814324
Mouse is a numberfag, why lie?

>>93813775
You can literally check the archives and find them seething about who she's playing with offline what she's doing offline the games she's playing and etc. it wasn't even a week ago dragoons were talking about sending her letters in the mail begging her to stop

>>93814435
>The wider community
lmao, I can't tell whether you're trolling or actually believe this. Again the fact this started as a Mouse bait thread and then turned into a Doki/dragoon bait thread when dragoons said they didn't have an issue with her says it all - mouse antis and doki antis are clearly often the same people - just sad SEAs who don't have a life outside of 4chan. I feel sorry for you.

>>93813871
This.
Dragoons literally kept stalking her old apex accounts and having meltdowns when she was playing with people offline. What was his name like Nocturnal or something?

>>93814773
No, it turned into a fagoon thread because they tried to pretend that they don't shit on mouse

>>93814773
While it's possible for some of them to be so detached from reality that they actually believe their lies, I'm positive that the retard in this thread is just baiting for replies.

>>93814727
First of all I'd like to encourage everyone reading this to check the archives themselves - you'll see that the only real issues dragoons have is her interacting with certain fleshstreamers (like Hasan) which she avoided - at no point did someone suggest sending her letters in the mail apart from an obvious threadshitter (the same one I'm probably replying to). The fact this same same threadshitter is an anti-mouse thread is a pretty clear indication of his motivations.

>>93815287
You know he's lying, he knows he's lying, no one will take him seriously anyways, why are you wasting your energy? Just laugh at him shitting his pants and go on with your day.

>>93815287
>Everyone who does anything bad is a threadshitter

Schizo

>>93815482
I do this because there are many tourists who take what they see in catalog threads as gospel, and then anti communities that are just trying to support their oshi(s). I gave up during the Selen days because an overwhelming number of anons thought dragoons were the ones using her face to shit up other generals.

>>93815908
>We didn't do that! It's all falseflaggers
Meds when?

>>93815287
I don't have an opinion on mouse actually. She seems okay, but I do think she is a fence sitter who avoids anything that might cost her views despite being one of the wealthiest twitch streamers out there and living in a country where her extravagant wealth is even more valuable.
This also is neglecting that she likely came from some money since she has a debilitating disease that keeps her unable to leave the house and had it before she became a vtuber to the best of my knowledge.

As far as dragoons go, there literally was seethe over her playing offline with people during her days as Selen and there has been seethe over her playing marvel rivals all day instead of streaming and the tournament she entered and how it's going to go down.

>>93815967
Your falseflagging is obvious; you type in the exact same way all the time. I'm sorry you hate Mouse and Doki, I'm sorry you were born in a poverty stricken country where you have to eat literal trash. But just move on man.

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Is this Laimuschizo acting up again? I remember just a couple of weeks ago he tried to start shit between /swarm/ and /haha/ only to get laughed out of multiple generals onto the catalogue, just to get laughed at again. Now it's /vsj+/ and /haha/?

>>93815908
I can assure you that there isn't one taking this shit seriously. Let them shit their paints, they're not worthy of anything other than laughing at these pathetic and unsuccessful attempts at changing public belief.

>>93816328
>>93816333
>Still pretends that Fagoons aren't cancerous

Don't know who you're fooling when even xQc and Shroud acknowledge you for the cancerous faggots you are

>>93796351
>/swarm/ hates her too (well, they hate everyone including those Vedal regularly collabs with
This is so true. I think the guy is pretty chill and that the concept of AI vtuber is cool, but his fanbase is so insufferable I don't want to watch him.

>>93816433
>xQc and Shroud
Thank you for exposing yourself as a /swarm/fag. Both of them are little bitches who cry when they lose, like xQc did with Charlie. Go back to discord and Twitch chat faggot.

>ITT: mousecucks violently attack every fanbase that exists
>"but why does everyone hate us and our illness faking whore????"
Unbelievably lack of insight.

>>93809896
why didn't she push for her zen to get the vtuber award since she had already gotten it twice

>>93816733
>Both of them are little bitches who cry when they lose
Why project? Doki does that after every tournament. She's even doing it preemptively in her pre chat

>>93816655
who gives a shit what /swarm/ thinks
the actual community is nothing like that

>>93794769
QUICK! RELEASE THE DEATH BAIT VIDEOS!

>>93796598
As a /flip/ person sue me nobody gives a shit about her

>>93816655
I quite often drop into /swarm/ when there's a stream (and so I dropped in often during the subathon that only ended recently) but all it contaits is doxx shit, shipfaggotry, antis against every chuuba Vedal/Neuro interacted with and even those they didn't, actual pedophilia and faggot ERP. I'm fine with all of those apart from atiing other chuubas and ERP.

>>93816988
Sorry /swarm/fag, no one's going to defend your little bitches in this thread.

>>93817235
Yeah. They also have a handful of schizos that feel the need to raid other generals. If they kept the hate only in /swarm/ they would be way more bearable

>>93817235
So /mouse/ and /vsj/ every day then

>>93794769
One is actually good at streaming and the other is good at grifting.

>>93817342
I don't have a horse in this race because /swarm/ is cancer like >>93817235 said. It's full of raging pajeets and indogs.
But Doki literally does cry/complain about every tournament she enters. They're always rigged against her, according to her. The street fighter tournament literally put her in a bracket for unskilled players and she refused to learn how to actually play using cheese strats to get as far as she did and then whined about losing when someone countered her cheese strat

>>93817486
Yeah if the threadshitter vshocucks actually stick to their containment cuck split they'd be tolerable but they feel the urge to raid every split and shit up every enemy they hate on the log
Never leave their thread tho btw

>>93817456
>/swarm/ is raiding others
>meanwhile we have schizos posting scat and gore randomly for no reason
>art tag taken over by some schizo posting pajeet dogshit

>>93817595
literally any proof of these raids?

>>93817607
>we have schizos posting scat
That's not only you, that guy is making the rounds in various threads for the last two weeks or so.

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>>93813348
>doesn't watch streams

>>93817607
I am not saying you don't get raided, all I know is that my—as in the ones I check—generals keeps getting raided by some /swarm/fags. I do not care about their obsession with NTR, vedal mogging with numbers and whatnot. These cunts sometimes spam this shit for a few hours a day. Hard to like the community when this is all I see them do.

>>93817755
Yeah I saw them in pkg iirc

>>93817661
You're in the thread, at least glance at your kin shitting on the floor it's right in front of you

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As a Dragoon and also a wisp i honestly have no feelings towards iron mouse one way or the other if she dont want to collab with doki that's her loss as long as my kamioshi can keep laughing her worries away that's fine with me :D

>>93818005
Proof at all this is /swarm/ and not bitter mousecucks attacking and falseflagging other splits?

>>93818119
>nigger mentions raids on other generals
>no proof provided
This Catlog is getting Raided!11!

>>93818192
I'd be geniuenly surprised if they knew so much about his subathon if they were mouse guys. Whatever the case, I just hope they get bored. They have been at it for nearly a month at this point. Not every day ofc, but nonetheless

>>93817235
It sounds like an upgrade from /HAHA/ which includes all of that but also non-stop dramafagging

>>93818326
Well that was a quick concession accepted
Maybe if your grifting whore was more entertaining you shitters would have something to keep you occupied instead of attacking more popular vtubers

>>93818139
Well she did collab with Mint here and there. But she tends to just prefer to collab with her comfort group (mostly Connor and Candii) and Doki probably didn't reach out to her.
During one of Chilla's Art games, where Doki was in some mini game, Mouse said nice things about her so I do not believe there's any bad blood between them.

>>93819653
Stop pretending you don't raid generals, fagoon

>>93816851
Is that all you've got?

>>93808189
Let's be honest no one likes that guy, it's like slandering Bin Laden or something.

>>93820587
uh oh melty
We actually have fun streams to watch, not Connor or Kai plapping a dead whore

>>93821456
While that is true, Vshoujo came out looking significantly worse but retracting their consent to making a video then pulling out all the pity stops they could

>>93821726
dude interrupted a criminal investigation

>>93821726
They never consented they just told him they couldn't stop him. The big lie was that all the girls begged him to stop when in reality their own company didn't even tell them (other than Melody) and none of them said jack shit to him

>>93821938
The one already concluded because the doxxers were Brazilian teenagers?

>>93822253
Melody never said anything to him either even though she was in the call in the first place. He asked if making the video was okay and he said "You're within your right to make a video on it because you're a victim". There isn't a hint of a "We don't want you to" in that video

>>93814127
xQc alone would demolish any vtuber that went after him. He thrives in drama

>>93822415
I meant that Melody was aware because she sat in on the security meeting with Nux, not that she said anything to him.

>>93821938
>>93822290
Not only did he actually do nothing to prevent the people from being arrested, vshojo couldn't have even been assed to put out a public notice saying
>THIS IS NOT US DO NOT FALL FOR PHISHING ATTEMPTS FROM THIS ADDRESS
I don't like nux and never have but vshojo were seriously incompetent in addressing what could have possibly resulted in multiple people getting their information stolen

>>93822875
My mistake then

>>93794769
soon she'll begin to feel very sick again

>>93794769
Ironmouse _almost_ mogz Valkyrae withiout revealing any part of her body.

What is there to be proud of for this hot but shallow bitch Val?