Why are all the big indie youtube vtubers leaving for twitch?
SadAme was a protagonist of holoEN but she is just a traitor now
it's literally in the screenshot, op
Indie runt
>>93799212>Vshojo collabsYikes, fucking grim.
>>93799212youtube is shit if you arent holothe algo works against you its super ban happy, retarded raid system and the only relevant indie still streaming there is mint
>>93799426What about Doki?
>>93799417she collabed with pippa and filian before and you draw the line at henya?
>>93799426yeah trying to grow as an indie or even corpo other than the top 2 is almost impossible on youtube
>>93799212BECAUSE YOUTUBE FUCKING SUCKS FOR MAKING MONEY
>>93799440shes going to twitch lol because to take advantage of marvel rivals twitch autism
>>93799452pippa? source?
Didn't she already "solve" this issue in the past by making the Ame radio twitch channel which we could listen to random shit while she's reading supas? I hate the gaslighting
>>93799440I don't know what he's smoking, she doesn't even dual stream.
autistics /here/ think twitch sucks for tribal reasons but you got people over there crying during the hasan drama because they went from making 10,000 dollars a day to 2,000, clearly for the streamers twich is profitable
>>93799458i honestly think phasefags would triple in numbers on twitch
>>93799440Who?
>>93799452I drew the line at Bao. But Vshojo is just as bad.
>>93799458>GrowIt's only downhill for her from here no latter what. She's slowly bleeding viewers kson style.
>>93799452>Pippasnuck that in lol, really phasebro?
>>93799545kek only holos read supas lmao we have stupid tts autism for that now
>>93799567no they stream there too and do just as bad. aint no one want to watch them.
>>93799572yea but henya tho? thats stupid
>>93799696i guess they have to kneel to the mouse and filian cliques if they want to get raided
Uh oh holomelty
How did Hololive manage to Stockholm Syndrome people into thinking that Youtube is a good streaming platform? It's noticeably worse as a viewer and infinitely worse as a streamer.
>>93799212Because Hololive have a tight grip on the youtube algo. Holo generates hundreds, if not thousands of contents every day (streams, videos, shorts, clips, posts, etc). So, it's basically impossible for an individual to sneak their way into a 4view. Unless they have connection with the big guys ofc
>>93799748Mouse would never, they go agaisnt her politics. They do leech Filian pretty hard but Filian's audience does not seem that interested in watching them either, the one they probably would like to watch the most is pippa and she doesn't stream on twitch.
>>93799545The "solution" was to do a second stream on Twich that was just the music. Why do that now when she can do everything on a single stream? Not even taking into account that doing 2 streams also means that probably 50% of viewers can't listen to the music because they are on mobile.>I hate the gaslightingI don't even get what you're alleging here. She's talked multiple times about why she uses Youtube for some streams and Twitch for others.
>>93799798>A million ads>Streamer can't control when ads happen>VODs are temporary >The chat is ten times more shit>BotsTwitchfags are horrendous
>>93799912why are holofags so sensitive i literally cannot tell the difference between youtube and twitch chant the ads support the streamer and they can choose to cut back on them no one watches vods a month after the stream aired
>>93799798Monetization for views is significantly better on YouTube. The community isn't full of 12 year olds and troons. VODs stay saved. Moderators don't have it out for vtubers who aren't Vshojo members. And Hololive COMPLETELY DOMINATES vtubing on YouTube, getting ccv that twitch vtubers can only dream of. Why the fuck would they leave?
The real answer here. Twitch gives streamers two audio channels. Both channels play into the Livestream but the second one is left out of the VOD. This lets you play licensed music in your stream without having to get sync licenses.
>>93799912This.
How can anyone still watch Twitch after getting hit by their first 25 seconds unskippable ad that mutes the VOD, is beyond me.
>>93799912>A million ads>Streamer can't control when ads happenI didn't even think of that because i'm not a poorfag.>VODs are temporary They stay up for like a month and she already has 2 dedicated VOD channels, not an issue>The chat is ten times more shitliterally how? Because the emote spam is different emotes?>BotsYoutube also has botsThis is also not taking into account the fact that youtube uses like 5x the CPU resources for streams that look noticeably blurrier and that the UI sucks even with all the addons.
>>93799881henya raids pippa from time to time when she streams on twitch mouse doesn't control all vshojo talents
>>93799881twitchfag here i would definitely watch clara just for her singing
I'm actually kinda glad twitch filters people who cant figure out scripts or figure out basic adblocking. It's nice.
>>93799490https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUIaoqUOw5Aogey
>>93799912Streamers can control when ads happen. They literally have a play ads button.Chat varies depending on the streamer.Your comfy 3 view has a different chat to the 5 view zoomer pandering reaction streamer.
>>93800002ESl-sasa his comment was directed at streamers other than hololive, unless you have a multi million dollar company to shill for you twitch is a better platform for streamers
>>93799212I don't get this point, she did 3 streams on YT back to back, and this was also another YT stream that changed to twitch just because she wanted to play the MiA OST... what's the supposed angle here?
>>93799426Sounds like a you problem
>>93800017its literally on the OP but these faggots even refuse to read it
>>93799417https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXDwfJXESPghttps://youtu.be/bBPK-7knwCs
>>93800156my oshi isnt on youtube therefore i dont watch youtube simple as
>>93800093All the huge fucking twitch streamers stream on both platforms now because YouTube pays more. Only 3 views or worse benefit from it. Doob is even sabotaging herself because her fans don't use twitch and she won't gain new viewers no matter what.
>>93799798by simply not rolling ad every 5min in the middle of a fucking stream
>>93800135> what's the supposed angle here?Its a bait thread retard-sama....
>>93800156you cant really use mint she had the ex large corpo buff + slight drama buff + now she's using hololive for viewers after her redebut
>>93800177Wasnt Selen supposed to be in that Nerissa collab but she was busy trying to kill herself
>>93800289Yes
>>93799652>>93799520she didn't, but she should. It would be great.
>>93800247moist critcal already went over this if you're a streamer you want to use twitch because you get more money from actually streaming If you're backed by a multi million dollar corpo that has legions of fans to boost your VOD views you go youtube because youtube pays more for vod views but you make less than a twitch stream during the actual stream itself
>>93800247>All the huge fucking twitch streamers stream on both platforms now because YouTube pays moreNo they don't? All the twitch streamers that used Youtube because YT paid them to said it was overall worse and didn't work, hence why all of them returned to Twitch after their contracts were up. There's a lot of videos by the people involved in that too. Youtube is just not good for streaming, it does not have a natural streaming culture for creators that primarily focus on streaming. Only Hololive and Niji really stick to it.
>>93800268Oh, that makes sense! Still, everyone with a brain should be able to see that she tries to balance both platforms.
>oshi vtuber>oshi company>oshi platformwhat's next?
>>93800247All the huge fucking streamers came back to Twitch after their exclusive YT contract ran out
>>93799798Out of the Hololive fans do you think the japs would be the ones shitting on twitch? Who would that leave if not them? How would they approach the argument?There's your answer
>>93800362lmao imagine watching a fleshtuber and a dude let alot that faggot grifting moist cocksucker
>>93800487its mostly SEAs, JPs use twitch too.
>>93799212>Already orbiting vwhorejoDoobkeks, explain?
>>93800081The Twitch adblock link has been posted here so many times and faggots here still complain about ads on Twitch
>>93799212The reason's right there. Learn to read.Anyway should be a fun collab.
>>93800498>btfo >retreat to insults
>>93800533Yeah, that's why i don't mind it. It's a self solving issue.
Using Twitch is like DoorDashing wings from the Hooters on the shitty side of town 10 minutes before they close.
>>93800534Is that server/mod/etc good? I have NO idea about how it works.
>>93800538>admits to watching faggots like moise>treat it as a winlmao you twitch faggots love your neckbeard cocksuckers just gimme quotes from asmongoloid while ur at it
worry not SEA bros, the vod will eventually be on youtube, you don't need to pay for twitch data plan
wasn't her debut dual streamedthis isn't new
>>93800385Problem isn't the culture. Its that YouTube cares more about Premium, TV, Videos and Shorts more than livestreaming. On the other hand Youtube is probably profitable while Twitch keeps losing money.
>>93800525
>>93800601>btfo so hard he can't type properly anymore
this explains all the seethe
>>93800509Jap 12 year olds. They're even mire cancerous than western twitch zoomers. They'd literally kill for their asshole E-celebs.Any Jap who's old enough to contribute to a chuuba's income doesn't use twitch.
>>93800601Moistcritikal is literally a Youtuber kek
>>93800660I accept your concession. You may now resume to watching dudes in the flesh you turbo faggot lmao
>>93800718Case in point, SEA melty.
>>93800743where does he stream exactly? what is his youtube content? oh his twitch streams? yea figures lmao dumbass
>>93799912Your opinion comes from using probably an Adblock, and if you can’t set up the same for Twitch, you are deeply retardedThey canOnly issue that I found but luckily there’s solutions to it YouTube chat filled with grays is significantly worse than non subs on Twitch, also not even talking about how fucking awful to moderate YouTube chat is to Twitch Both sites are plagued with, and both should only be a concern to the streamer
I'm all for doob using twitch exclusively. Watching her fans slowly fuck off because they don't use twitch is hilarious.
>>93800800He dual streams, and youtube is his main platform kek
>>93800815I mean, past few stream she managed to have an average of 6-7K, her usual numbers. Isn't that fine?
>>93800800?
>>93800869yep but he mostly streams on twitch only especially when playing a game or using music
>>93800285>Mint doesn't counts because...SHE JUST DOESN'T OK!?lmfao coping twitchtranny
>>93800743>intentionally being this dumbactual melty so angry he lost IQ and went full retard
>>93799560It is, people just really hate Hasan and when people haven’t worked out the tag changes tribalists spin that shit into space. Literally even Hasan can get his revenue back if he doesn’t put politics in his tags. One of the prime example used in lsf later proved it was because he has election shit in his tags, money started flowing once it was taken off. None of it really affect vtubers unless you put stupid shit in your tags
>>93800815youtubeholofaggots getting replaced by twitchtroons so numbers stay the sameits bad either way
>>93800802From my experience watching a small vtuber who dual streams there have been a lot more retards wandering into her youtube chat than her twitch one even though she has like almost 10 times more viewers on twitch.
>>93800932>he actually watches moist and proud of itlol lmao even
>>93800714*SEAthe
>>93799440She plateaued and declined after tourists left. Is a 2-3k vtuber now. Even sinder is larger than she is now. There's just nothing to be had on youtube if you're not holo.
>>93800933He's streamed on Youtube every day for the past week and appears to have hundreds upon hundreds of Youtube streams. The page had to load twice just to get through the streams in the past month.
>>93800760And the ESL babble appears
>>93801007You can clearly see I don't watch him, considering I haven't clicked any of the videos and haven't even subbed. Is this really the best ytfags have?
>>93801007NTA but he doesn't show as subsciribed. Looks like he went to the channel to prove you're retarded. Did a good job too.
>>93801036Meanwhile Mint plays some old PC strategy game and gets bigger numbers. Crazy how actual talent matters vs dramafagging about suicide (read: taking 2 ibuprofen pills instead of 1)
>>93801036yeah i mean i have never understood why she is popular, grating laugh ever 3 seconds, her voice isnt pleasant etc
>>93800802YouTube chat has ways to filter retards. Twitch doesn't. Ad block isn't real on anything other than PCs. Also Twitch famously has the most brain dead retards on it constantly saying the dumbest shit possible
>>93801168And the ugly tranny model
>>93800760SAAR, DO NOT INSULT THE YOUTUBE SAAR
>>93799417Pikamee and Henya are based. Get fucked.
for someone who doesn't even watch dooby, you faggots sure care a lot where she does her streams
>>93801303vwhorejo ruined PikameeAnd they were about to ruin Mint too, fortunately she completely avoids them now that her podcast with matara ended
>>93801131They were really strong pills anon
>>93801178I honestly can't believe SEAniggers are this braindead, their brains must be as brown as their skinTwitch has a shit ton of chat bots that can filter retards, emote spammers, and whatever else you want if you know how to configure the plugins
>>93801402Ironically it's Youtube streaming that's miserable for mods because the moderation tools are way worse
>>93801178
>>93801519KEK Chumbuds are based
Dokibird is still going to be a mostly youtube side streamer.
>>93801131Still shitting your pants a year later, love to see it :^)
>>93799212She uses both stupid retard, now bump this thread for days brazilian
>>93801519>RUBi miss russians
>>93800898You mean 2k-4k. And it's still dropping. People don't watch her on twitch.
>>93799353They can't read. the Troon on discord just gives them an image and a steam gift card and says "go nuts"
>>93801519
>>93801036Damn those are Shiori tier numbers.
Because twitch have a funnyer and good chat experience for the community and the streamer. YT chat is dog shit dead the streamer most of the time ignore chaters because the boring layout and dead interactions between the stream and community
>>93801907ESL
>>93801036She's actually doing worse than in niji
>>93801519She coped that from xQc
>>93801912what about it you fag. you think english the superior language or something. other languages exist sweetie
>>93801839There's more options on Twitch and Doobers is rather boring, she has to try harder if she wants viewers there.
>>93799212nobody cares about grifter indies, quit wasting catalog spots that we could be talking about Biboo's outfit you faggot
>>93801036i mean how long can you watch someone laugh every 2 seconds, i wonder how people watch a whole stream of it
>>93799572Why Vshojo is good now. what the issue haven't heard any things about them in while do they have any new drama bigger than the nux thing ?
>>93801839She'd have more viewers if she actually streamed. Being inconsistent on twitch hurts your analytics
>>93802086nobody cares about that trash ass outfit nigga
>>93801178Twitch has a feature to change the chat into just anything: emote, followers only, verified users, etc (YouTube partially stole the subscribers one)Twitch allows mods to clear chatTwitch allows for shared ban lists, if a schizo is running wild in for example a VShojo girl, the mods of the other channels can be notified and take action before the schizo goes into another streamTwitch marks users coming from raids and first time users in case of retardsTwitch marks suspicious users (users previously banned in other chats, users who were account banned and possibly made another account)Just recently Twitch added warnings, a pre time out option if mods don’t want to outright ban you
>>93799212is this their first ever collab together?also just googled mine in abyss and dam people have too much time on their hands
>>93802405Yeah
>>93799212Because Youtube sucks for streaming. Only the Japanese use it.
>>93802086Based and I care.
>>93799997You don't belong here. I can smell the flesh streamer on you. If you dont watch vods, you aren't a fan, you're just a tourist.
>>93802876trying a new angle huh
>>93799212>so I can hear the OST without having it in the VODWait is that really a thing? I thought they just recorded at the same time with a different appIs that a twitch exclusive thing?
>>93802360All of these are fucking worth. Anyone can just follow, shit up the chat then unfollow
>>93802953>>93800017
>>93801036>She doesn't need Nijisa-ACKWhat she deserves for stabbing the people that made her in the back
>>93802953There's this thing where 1 audio layer is in the VoD, but there's another audio layer that's only on the live stream. That way you can have music that's not recorded
BVTM Thread
>>93802953yes twitch has this thing where u can separate the music from the vod so u dont get copystruck
>>93802937Go watch reality tv on cable, i hear they're giving a rose to the ugly one this week.
>>93803113nah parrot made this one the rent is due and drama is at an all time low
>>93799426Youtube VODs still earn you more money than just streaming on Twitch ever would.
>>93802953Twitch allows dual audio tracks to avoid vod copyrights. One track is pushed out live and the other goes into the vod. It's not even new, people just don't know because they just assumed that yt is the best.
>>93803167>vods earn more than streamsfor holo sure lol for anyone else? nobody fucking watches vodslucky for the streamer you can stream on twitch and upload the vod on youtube
>>93802989You can set a minimum follow age sea kun, how new are you?
>>93799212>mineshartno thanks
>>93799212Dooby is not fat, asshole.
>>93802989Guess what brownie, you can also set up the chat so new followers need to wait 24h before chatting
>>93803247would you rather have apex or marvel rivals lol
>>93799212OP, I hate to be the one to bring you this news, but you are a moron.Dooby has streamed on both platforms since she debuted.
Also, keep samefagging SEA-OP, you aren't fooling anyone.
if you average less than 7k viewers or are part of a mega corpo twitch is objectively better for growth and money, like this is just a fact, you can seethe about it but its a literal fact backed up by data
>>93800017>>93803036>>93803072>>93803122>>93803185Oh that's pretty neat, so I could hypothetically play music from my Spotify while doing art as long as I don't keep it in the VOD?
>>93803250yea but dokibird is
>>93801519this was the peak holoEN
>>93803238>>93803257Twitchfags forever proving why Twitch chat is ten times more retarded than YouTube chat. All the big streamers agree but they just piss their pants when exposed. Enjoy sitting through a thousand ads just to watch someone go AFK for ten minutes
>>93803306Yeah, most art streamers do exactly that, actually.
>>93803269apex? no. marvel rivals? yes.doesn't matter tho, henya only plays shit games and she sucks at them, no wonder her fans prefer her watching food videos
>>93803308Like that wasn't the obvious implication from my post.
>>93803167I thought Twitch was bad because of the ads?What money are you earning on Youtube vods if people block the ads?Also there's no way that a 1-200k view youtube video earns more than people donating even just 50 subs total during a twitch stream.
>>93803334>sitting through a thousand adsliteral skill issue
which discord are these fags from?
>>93803306Yes and doesn’t matter as Twitch Vods are basically worthless. You don’t make money after the stream on twitch.
>>93803167youll get banned on youtube for saying a word that is featured in a song
>>93803248Its teenagers complaining about how twitch isn't a terrible experience for a viewer and not understanding that everyone older than them sees the twitch viewer community as a septic tank inundated with adhd and actual children.
>>93803334>ads meme againIf you can spend 5 hours a day watching someone else play videogames but can't afford to subscribe to remove the ads just say you're underage or stop being a NEET. Your opinion is worthless either way since you're not supporting the streamer anyway.
>>93803353>actually prefers capeshit>most obvious forced bait for henyatry again buddy this aint it
>>93803486just don't be poor
>>93803486As opposed to Youtube chat? I literally don't get this argument. Is it just because there's animated emotes?
>>93803334Streamer chats all suck, they're filled with normalfags giving their worthless opinions and emote spamming. Fighting over which platform has a better chat is like fighting over whether cat shit or dog shit tastes better.
>>93803511you know it's bad when even capeshit is better than fucking mineshart, lethal company, content warning, souls slop or chilla's slop.
>>93803612It's varies wildly from stream to stream, on any platform.
>>93803542>>93803567The culture is unbelievably obnoxious. Hype trains take the crown in most off-putting social feature I'm aware of.
>>93801386>vwhorejo ruined PikameeYeah? How?
>>93799212better platform overall
Everyone is trying to stream on both platforms now just in case either one has a schizo fit and bans them for no reason/insane reasons
>>93803506>You want to actually watch the stream? Cough up five dollars Amazing argument, twitchtard
>>93803731Attentionwhores are everywhere, and they are rewarded with BIG MESSAGE on Youtube dor donating with their argie currency. Makes no difference.
>>93803765Some even multi on kick or xwitter.
>>93803806my oshi insta bans for attention whoring and rejects all appealsshe simulcasts btw
>>93803773That or grow a frontal lobe? Adblocking ain't hard.
>>93802194>Why Vshojo is good nowlollmao, evenAlso, I don't give second chances.
>>93803708ok buddy work on that bait you’ll get em next time
>>93803731>Hype trains take the crown in most off-putting social feature I'm aware of.Autism is a hell of a drugAnyway, it’s optional >but why don’t they…Money. It’s easy money for streamers
>>93803747She's a giganormie now. Doesn't even talk about comiclo anymore.
>>93803860No one is going to adblock on anything other than a computer, retard. Plus Twitch admins are actual trannies that ban you for wrongthink
>>93803773>doesn't want to watch ads but it's too retarded to install a script>doesn't want to member/subscribe>wants to have an opinion on what the streamer should doYes, unironically fuck off and kill yourself. I don't know why you think your opinion is worth anything.
>>93803806There is a tangible difference in individuals being cringe and a group being cringe. Examples being people who watch ball sports or otakus when they congregate.
>>93803731It's literally a bar that fills up as people donate. Just ignore it. Youtube also has annoying stuff to encourage people to donate like how the superchat button flashes like a strobelight.
>>93803974>on anything other than a computerThen you don't matter.
>>93803907>muh baitthe truth hurts, doesn't it?
>>93804020>You like having streams on while you do anything other than sit on your computer? You don't matter!This is why Twitch chat is retarded
>>93803974You aren't even trying to be serious with this argument. I run adblockers on every device in my home and run a domain blocker for add on my router. If you aren't then you're embarrassing yourself.
>>93803973you don't watch streams
>>93804072>no argumentI accept your concession vshitshowcuck. Cope and seethe.
>>93804056>I run adblockers on my TV and phoneYou're a retard
>>93804046There's mutltiple way to adblock on mobile. Adguard Extra, PurpleTv, you name it. It really just does sound like you technologically illiterate.
>>93803974You don't adblock on your phone? Why? Are you stupid?
>>93804046go back you phoneposting redditspacing retard
>>93803998I can just watch twitch vods when they're re-uploaded to youtube by the chuba.
>>93799212Twitch bounty system just happens to be easiest way to get sponsorships.and Youtube ad money is pretty shit during Jan-Mar
>>93804141What do you think, anon. He's an iChild kek. Of course he doesn't know shit about mobile ad blocking.
>>93799212yeah, I ain't following her to Twitch, good riddance
>>93804114You will watch more ads than actual content before you die. Thats really pathetic.
>>93804114>TVEw
>>93804286>not using a $2000 70 inch as a monitorSo you're poor?
>>93804286>Replied to himself in confusion!>It's super ineffective!
>>93800643>Youtube is probably profitableYoutube has literally never been profitableIt's a money sink
>>93804122>Watching through a browser appRetard>>93804141Inconvenient. More trouble than it's worth to watch the trash on Twitch. Would rather not be forced to circumvent a problem. You name it>>93804154Uh-oh Twitchtard melty!
>>93804336In shitholes* you're exposing yourself
>>93804326a tv isn't a monitor, it's a spy appliance, retard
This guy is the biggest retard I've seen /here/ in a long fucking time lmfao. I even hate twitch too, but holy shit zoomers should not have ever been allowed access to the internet. Technologically illiterate retard kek.
>>93804100https://vocaroo.com/1toMifww2bA5
>>93804397You might actually be the stupidest person on 4chan right now. Please explain to me how a tv running a custom os and not connected to the internet is a spy device? Jesus christ i bet you buy from the native app store lmfao.
>>93804482>shitting on her fansYep, she's a roastie bitch now
>>93804482I long for the day this shit site gets on the global spam filter.
>>93804465>LMAO you don't install adblockers on your browser app so you can watch twitch through a shitty mobile website UI? Genuinely. Why do twitchfags think this sells people on their trash platform? Do you think anyone wants to do this when they can just skip ads on YouTube?
>>93804482God she's such an annoying whore
>>93804482Having no respect for people that watched her huh?
>>93804528>and not connected to the internetlol>he actually believes smart tv's aren't connected to the internet when they say solmao even
>>93804530>>93804540>>93804560>>93804587seathe
>>93804540Vocaroo?? I use it to share music I've made on here. Other anons do VA with it. Why would you want it banned?
>>93804612
>>93804615Hurt feefees
>>93804557No no, keep going. You genuinely know so little about twitch, YouTube, tech as a whole that it's actually hilarious. Please don't get upset and run away. Your seething is so funny.
>>93804482This is why Vshoujo will never be in the big 3
>>93804612wrong continent, amerilard>>93804615because vkeks keep spamming gay porn audio through it
>>93804651I accept your concession
>>93799212>it says right here>make a garbage bait thread anywaysthis board is so fucked
>>93804609You are technology illiterate. You believe in magic. You probably think the moon landing was faked.
>>93804609>he has no idea how networking worksIt's fine to work at McDonald's anon. Not everyone needs/gets to be in STEM.
>>93804692Awwww yeaaaaah that's the good shit. Fuck I love retards so much lmao.
>>93804647Is this statement an explanation in reply to my question, or and accusation towards me?
>>93804802The former
>>93804710>>93804719>no argumentsconcession accepted.
Aren't the admins of Twitch actual communists that support terrorism?
>>93804706OP here I gotta love the EZ (You)’s just use ex holos or vshoujou
>>93804896trump won, they're all fascists now
>>93804896they let asmongoloid stream there so I doubt it
>>93804859You're gonna make me cum anon, your cringe kino is better than sex.There are no arguments because you have no idea what you're talking about kek.
>>93804896wait till you find out who actually runs youtube
>>93804959They banned him for shitting on Palestine while clapping when Hasan brought a terrorist on stream
>>93804859You want me to walk you through data transmission wavelengths? You are missing information on a fundamental of the topic and its causing you to come to horribly wrong conclusions that require magical thinking such as "its connected to a network because it just is."
>>93804987now try that again without crying
>>93804959They can't permaban him because he has a large enough platform to go full scorched earth on their advertisers by making them aware of all the shit hasan and his orbiters have been saying.
>>93799212Very simple, because youtube fucking sucks and almost every non-corpo vtuber streams on twitch
>>93805016and now hes back when trump won
>>93805037Fuck keep replying, please. You're so stupid it's amazing. I wish I could keep you as a pet lol.
>>93804987>>93805030I have actually worked in the industry, retards. Can't wait till you start denying the spying capabilities of the IME and whatever the other CPU vendors have.
>>93801036These are the same numbers she had before Selen Shokku.
>>93805088>still no arguementlol your suffering and embarrassment is delicious
>>93799212you dont have to make thumbnail on twitchIt's very easy to press go live, watch youtube while eating on twitchYou dont see people do that on youtube because they are stuck into 1 game due thumbnail and actually have to create good contentAnyone moving from youtube to twitch is simply being a lazy whore.
>>93805101>this anon believes "The Brave Little Toaster" is a documentary>this anon has conversations with his e-cigarette
>>93803334>Proven wrong>No further arguments to make>REEEEE TWITCH RETARDED REEEElmao how mad are you?
>>93805147>Everything you have said is wrongThat's my argument, you dumbass lmao. Please feel free to Google how wifi works though.
Twitch is the de facto streaming platform. Unless you're big ex corpo like Doki, Mint, Nimi or Dooby you have no business trying to grow on youtube as an indie vtuber. The algorithm is dogshit, the mod experience is horrendous and the copyright system is suffocating. Both Twitch and Youtube are tools. The metal has always been streaming on twitch and storing Vods and clips on youtube. Double dipping to maximize profit and growth.
>>93805196I don't smoke anything, retard, and I never will.
>>93805178Counterpoint: Tenma.You have a very narrow perspective of the industry landscape, anon.
>>93803386Logic is not allowed on this board, sir.
did some catalogfag really make this thread just to samefag his own doki/henya hateposts?
>>93805178>you can't react on youtubeDo I need to pull up any of the hundreds of channels that solely exist for react content? This shit started on youtube with people like that Tyrone nigga.
>>93805208yea sure buddy try again next bait thread maybe you can come up with an actual arguement next time lol
>>93805290Yes.
>>93805101>CHINA IS WATCHING YOU>YOUR TV IS HACKEDDDDDDDDDDDDDYou're hilarious anon. No, the $400 TV you bought from Best Buy is not equipped with anything that can force itself onto your network. If this happens, it means you're a retard who doesn't know how to properly setup/manage a home network, or you're poor and live next to someone with open wifi.
>>93805290yes its fun
>>93803486So true Aquino. I too prefer the hundreds of video comments complaining about male collabs and threatening to quit membership. Oh wait that's YouTube lol.
>>93805352Oh with pleasure! Please, do continue to be a gigantic retard in any thread on this board you'd like. I absolutely love seeing how stupid you are. I should frame your posts, it's like I'm watching the dumbest animal at the zoo.
>>93803867Then shut the fuck up retard.
>>93805352>actual arguementThis should do. Tell me if you can see the link ok?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b47UpR2JT-w
>>93805388>muh chynahI don't even care if you're a vcuck or a phasecuck, you're both the same.
>>93803045It's been a year, Sister. Move on.
>>93803773>I love YouTube and it's superior because my streamer earns big ad money!>What? Watch ads? No way I hate a platform that shows me ads! Twitch bad!Which is it sea brother? Do you want ads or not? Ohhh, you meant that you want OTHERS to watch ads to fund your content for free. Got it.
>>93804482>vapid cunt behaviorMan retards will literally use anything to defend their whore of an oshi now and days
>>93805552Did you reply to the wrong post, anon?
Twitch is better, has funnier emote and better memes with history behind it. Youtube chat looks like a bunch of bots and normalfaggots spamming default emote.
>>93804641I think he made a pun
>>93805552Awwww why did you drop your tinfoil hat? :'(Come on, where's the autistic rebuttal about how you TOTALLY work in industry and know all about infosec! It's no fun if you just roll over without a fight.
>>93805574The most brain dead reply I can watch a whole ass stream on YouTube and see approximately one fucking ad at the start but meanwhile on Twitch you get an ad every four to five minutes.
>>93805582
>>93805458again try it without crying buddy I can taste the salt from here you need to be less discrete with the seethelegit advice to calm you down or else it wont be fun if I win all the time
>>93805565>A bunch of actual nobodies Stiff competition for BPDbird I see
>>93805510i accept your concession
>>93805683Anon, the tears are because I'm laughing at you so hard. Please, keep going though. I'm loving it.
>>93805636Sorry lil bro your not old enough to post on this site.
>>93805760>your
>>93805675The fact Twitchfags see nothing wrong with this because they are cucked and expect everyone to want to find different ways to block the ads on all different devices prove twitch monkeys are retarded
Gura is gonna end up doing the same when she leaves this year, cause she only ever streamed on Twitch before just like not Ame
>>93805671>failed rule 3 baitstill not gonna watch either shit corpo
>>93805636You are welcome to remain on twitch with its ":D:D:D LOL :D:D:D LOL" spam culture. I also dislike the parade of blue donations when a chuba goes to pee on youtube. Overall, youtube chat is less caustic. The youtube comment section on any popular video is worse than xtwitter, however. I really dislike watching flesh streamers. It feels the same as watching reality tv and gives the same terrible impression.
>>93805743>actually admits defeat and in tears>facepalm.jpegare you a fucking actual emotional woman or are you just a preddit tourist? lmao
>>93804896based
>>93805807https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1P-AEaEp8
>>93805851as much as I’d love to see the holofaggots kill themselves over this it would never happen shes set for life collecting money from her suckers while she never has to work in her life just let cover use her image selling merch
>>93805915>T.seething cuck
>>93805675>you get an ad every four to five minutes.Stop lying anon. Twitch has a minimum of 3 minutes of ads per hour to avoid prerolls. Anything more is manually triggered by the streamer.>"To completely remove pre-roll video ads from your stream for an hour, you must run at least 3 minutes of mid-roll ads per hour via Ads Manager."https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/ads-managerYou're actually a dumbass who gets your Twitch "knowledge" from reading catalog threads ROFL. How unsurprising.
>>93805967We dont sign our posts here.
>>93805882Anon, since you haven't gotten it through your retarded head, you shitting and pissing yourself is not a "win." You have no idea how tech works, and this has made you upset. I, and other anons, proceeded to laugh at you, and are continuing to do so. You some how took this as winning. Please keep at it though. Whatever "it" is to you.
>>93806027So that means any streamer with more ads is an unironic greedy faggot good job outting your oshis vworejo faggot
>>93806027https://youtu.be/u7V1k9clu94?si=rwbjb53AQKC1xKY3
>>93806187>admitted to be in tears from seethingsure… im the one seething? lmao just show me your tits girl we can hook up later
>>93806229I don't know how many ads vshitshow runs on their channels, but one thing I know is that whoever you watched spammed ads on you and you're seething kek.
>>93806341>Anon, the tears are because I'm laughing at you so hard.>because I'm laughing at you so hard.>LaughingOh, okay I get it now, it all makes sense. You're just an illiterate retard. Carry on, RETARDGOD! Wifi is scary though, so make sure you keep your tinfoil hat on at all times!
>>93806463its a phasekek I hear pippa spams ads on purpose when she streams on twitch
>>93806470sure crybaby lmao its ok thats fine I know you are a woman. Wanna grab some coffee sometime? my treat
>>9380081599% of her fans don’t care,Also nice image schizohttps://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/cDDcS3EBW2AS3kY-qfAjlA/
>>93806470nta but you are getting totally baited and triggered its embarrassing
>>93805865>Overall, youtube chat is less caustic.Youtube chat is more or less equally caustic everywhere. Twitch chat very much depends on the individual streamer and community, because it actually has usable tools that let chat mods enforce the rules. So some twitch chats are obnoxious emote spam 24/7, while others are very well behaved
>>93801007I don't watch him, but how the fuck is watching him is any worse than watching women pretend to be anime girls? Get off your high horse, retard.
>>93799212>This thread has almost has many posts as reactions to her postSAD!
Hahaha! While they are distracted, I (John Kick) will overtake the streaming world!!!
>>93806643>watching anime women be cute is superior to watching a neckbeard rant about politics and dramaI mean thats just common sense really. I can only jack off to women after all
>>93806615>Triggeredlollmao evenAnd what else is there to do in this dogshit thread than to bite shit bait from retards.
>>93806643do you actually prefer ugly faggots crying over trump and streamer drama to anime women?
>>93799798Youtube streams at a higher bitrate, so it looks nicer. Also, fewer ads, the mobile app is vastly superior. Twitch has alot going for it but I actively avoid using it.
>>93799212Henya is going to latch onto Dooby now like how Gura latched onto Ame
>>93806808>Youtube streams look nicerARE YOU FUCKING BLIND? YT streams has more pixelations than a fucking japanese porno
>>93805807Anon I don't even *need* an adblock on twitch, because I'm subscribed to my oshi and unlike on youtube that means I gett zero ads on her channel. And even if I wasnt, it wouldn't matter much because she usually takes a piss break roughly every hour anyway and just lets the mandatory ads play during that
>>93806887So you just have no idea what you're talking about then. Just say that instead. It's quicker.
>>93799512Doki said that she's going to try to stream at least one a week on Twitch because being on both youtube and twitch is a huge boost in exposure
>>93806808Usually Dooby streams look nicer on twitch than on youtube for me, but that might be something on her end idk
>>93806780No, I think both are pretty trash, but at least one of them managed to get to the top without resorting to play pretend and without very often joining a huge established corpo
>>93806958dude yt streams looks so bad even when you set it to 4k it looks like im watching from a wii
>>93806992im not taking opinions from a faggot that jacks off to moist neckbeard lmao and prefer it to anime women
>he can't afford twitch
>>93806943YouTube premium gives you more than Twitch. Also being forced to spend money just to not miss 5 minutes of a stream is why YouTube is superior
On a scale of 1-10. How jealous do you think Gura is going to be?
>>93807264Gura doesn't give a shit about streaming chumbud
>>93807063Well, that's your problem if you can only enjoy things with your dick in your hand. Normal people mostly watch things because they find them entertaining
>>93807264I do wonder about How gura feels with her the situation. She gets paid really well but isn't allowed to really do anything because nothing is safer to the brand and her ip specifically is a cash cow for cover. I wonder if she has an alt she makes meme content on like she used to?
>>93807442she is being paid very well to hold the boat while cover changes direction, it is very obvious.
>>93803386Someone else gave you a retarded answer, but I mean what I said about the VODs. Multiple big creator have made some of their earnings public and have shown that while yes, they of course, get some good money from a very popular stream. Most average VODs from unpopular streams get them just as much if not more revenue over time.The best is of course to do both.
>>93807608What i mean to ask is, i wonder if she feels creatively fulfilled?
Look at the LSFfags so desperate to force discussion about their shitty ecelebsKek
Is Gura even really that big a money maker anymore? Sure she may as well be the logo of hololive outside of Japan, but she doesn't do anything.
>>93807137I didn't say premium/turbo, I said "subscribed". That's the twitch equivalent of a youtube membership. And nobody forces you to. But if your oshi isn't worth that level of support to you, then just get an adblocker that works, it's not rocket science. Ultimately, both sites want to serve you ads, both don't want you to block them, and youtube is honestly more obnoxious about that with their "player will be disabled after 3 videos" shit these days. Giving the site credit for the fact that your favourite adblocker happens be better at dealing with that is a stupid argument.
>>93806703with mikeneko? lmaooo
>>93807945>I said "subscribed"which now occasionally serves ads. read up on A/B testing, twitch will have it similarly to youtube soon. coincidentally, youtube is working on twitch-esque in-stream ads.
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